Bucks Season Recap: Who Exceeded, Met, or Missed Expectations?

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[00:00:00]There were successes, failures, and a lot of C's for the Bucks this past season. Camille and I share our list of who met, exceeded, and did not meet expectations coming up next.

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[00:00:50]Who exceeded expectations for the Bucks, who met expectations, and who were we most disappointed with? We put together our lists, so we'll see how those line up and be interesting to hear from you in the comments as well. But, uh I suppose we should start with the good.

[00:01:05]Yeah. And yeah, who who wants to start things on a sour note here? So, the players that we thought exceeded expectations, I had a list of five, you did as well, and 80% of the list was the same for us.

[00:01:25]There's one name that was different on both ends. So, those uh four that were the same were Ryan Rollins, Jericho Sims, Pete Nance, and Cormac Ryan. And I suppose it it probably tells you all you need to know about the Bucks season as a whole when those last three names are in the exceeded expectations department for this group. But, the uh the difference that we had, and then we'll get to our over overall takeaways on those players, the one difference is I put Kevin Porter Jr. in the exceeded, and you went with with Kyle Kuzma. So, I guess I'll start with KPJ.

[00:02:09]Uh this was the one that I struggled with the most because of the injury component that it was tough to really say fully exceeded expectations when you looked at the games played with the injuries and and the knee issues that just lingered throughout the season. But, I looked at it for the moments he was on the floor, I think he did exceed my expectations.

[00:02:31]So much so that we've talked about it on this show this season at least. Uh he is one of the guys I'm willing to say I was wrong.

[00:02:39]I thought at the time when they traded for Kevin Porter Jr. it was a low-risk move in terms of what you gave up. Like, okay, fine. I don't have high expectations here. He seems like a chucker and was inefficient in Los Angeles. Doesn't really seem like a winning player.

[00:02:58]I don't have a whole whole lot of expectations for this going forward. If he surprises me, fine, but I don't expect to be surprised.

[00:03:06]And I was pleasantly surprised when he was on the floor this season that um there were some tendencies >> [laughter] >> Let's curb this a little bit, but overall he made the right plays, and he was very impactful offensively. We've heard Doc repeatedly talk about the metrics of like he and Giannis and others on the floor together that I think there's still opportunity for growth, and I'm not quite ready to say, oh, Kevin Porter Jr.'s an All-Star caliber player. He's a guy that you build around. But, for where my expectations were, which were, you know, basically average, Right.

[00:03:41]>> he exceeded those for me this past season. And I think that's fair. For for me, I can see with this team like KPJ's going to be very, very important for for what they're trying to do. Now, let's see if he can hit the heights that we saw him hit once he was traded to Milwaukee because last season his splits in Milwaukee and then in LA with the Clippers were like, "Ooh, this feels like two different players right now."

[00:04:04]Are we going to see more of what we saw with him in a Bucks uniform this season that just passed? And when he was healthy, we did.

[00:04:11]And the injuries, honestly, is the only reason why he's in my met expectations instead of exceeded expectations because his on-the-court play, he definitely exceeded expectations. It was a career high in assists, uh steals, field goal percentage, also a career high in uh true shooting percentage for Kevin Kevin Porter Jr. this season. But, the injuries, they they just really took this season away from him.

[00:04:38]And then too from the team.

[00:04:40]Yes. And the team needed this man, and he wasn't able to be available. And you could tell the weight on him because even the comment that Doc Rivers said that Kevin Porter Jr. made where he said, "I let you down, coach." Yeah. And Doc responded saying like, "You didn't let me down. Like, you were injured." Like >> [laughter] >> Like you can't control that. So, it is what it is, but I thought he had a fantastic season when he was healthy.

[00:05:04]The only knock on his game was the three-point shooting. He started the season off really well, like the first half of his games, he was shooting like 38% for three. The last half, he only shot like 22%, and he stopped taking the shots, too. He stopped taking the catch and shoot, too.

[00:05:20]>> Yeah, the catch and shoot. Like he just were passing them up, and we can't have that going on. But, I figured putting him in met expectation for me, that that'll do because the injuries took a lot away from him. But, when he was healthy and on the court, he showed why he was important to this team. Was it was it Bobby that he stepped on in game one?

[00:05:37]>> the first one. Yep. Where he had 10 points already in like nine minutes.

[00:05:41]>> I was waiting for Doc to say, "You didn't let me down. Bobby let me down."

[00:05:43]>> [laughter] >> With them big old feet in the way.

[00:05:47]Um your difference was Kyle Kuzma. Mhm.

[00:05:50]And uh for me, I put him at meets because you know, we talked about it before the season, too. Um I think he was one of the guys we talked about on Here District with Marcus and Chris, too, that like I I expect [clears throat] Kuz be, you know, a deserved rotational piece.

[00:06:06]Like I expect a big bounce-back season for him this year. And it's not to say it was it was all roses here cuz there was certainly some highlights or lowlights, depending on how you want to look at it. Um but, it was basically what I expected. You know, it it it's not going to be as bad as it was to close out the season a year ago, but let's also temper our expectations in what we realistically can and should expect from Kyle Kuzma. I felt like that's what we got, but for you it was beyond that.

[00:06:36]Yeah, and I think because a lot of the the expectation for Kyle coming into the season was like, "We hope that he can be better here. We hope that the shot diet has changed. We hope so on and so forth." So, me just kind of hoping for a lot of things with Kyle Kuzma, I didn't really have high expectations for him coming in. But, to see how to heart he took his role where he really did cut out a lot of those mid-range shots, and it was pretty much from three and finishing at the rim. Um you still had the Kyle Kuzma moments where sometimes he does >> Kyle still had a lot of threes at times.

[00:07:12]And you're just like, "What, Kuz?" But, like for a guy who took a backseat this season where a lot of his numbers were down overall of just where he was in buying into that team role, I think that's what bumped him up to exceeded expectations for me because he didn't complain publicly. Maybe he's one of the people talking to to Shams on the side, we don't know. We don't know.

[00:07:32]But, what we saw him do was whatever the team needed. When he got that DNP, he was on the bench clapping up for guys.

[00:07:38]He wasn't, you know, making it about him. He just "What the team needs, I'm here for." So, that compared paired with the fact that on the court, we saw him just be a better role player than what he was last season and really buying in, I had to move him up into the exceeded expectations. And now you're kind of making me reconsider, too, because uh you know, from the outside, the perspective from a lot of Bucks fans, too, was basically well, he sucks. So, and um he was he was better than sucks this season, I I think we can say.

[00:08:13]Um but, also the the off-the-court stuff. And to [clears throat] your point, and we talked about it before, too, he really embraced his role.

[00:08:23]Um but, also some of the other things that you started to hear in the reading between the lines where you could sense like, oh, this was probably Kuz that spoke up about this of like his role with the young guys Mhm. as trying to basically I don't know how I would put it. Not lead by example.

[00:08:41]Just kind of encourage them, like >> Leadership and encouragement. Yeah, that that Kuz I think that really stood out to me more than anything, more than the way that he played, that you didn't hear a peep from him despite the the DNP, despite having to sacrifice his role. He had no real clarity on that of like, is he going to start? Is he going to come off the bench?

[00:09:00]Didn't matter. He played the same way every single time he took the floor this season. So, I I think I will move him to exceed. So, I got six in the exceeds category, and and you had five. Uh we'll keep it positive-ish when we return and look at the guys who, you know, I previously had Kuzma in this category of like, you did exactly what I thought you were going to do coming into this season because that was the biggest grouping for this team. Um we'll reveal our lists of the players that met expectations coming up after this.

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[00:12:59]For the uh meets expectations.

[00:13:02]So I don't I don't know about you.

[00:13:05]So we both had pretty much the same list just looking through here. We both had Giannis and Thanasis.

[00:13:14]We both had Andre Jackson Jr. We both had Torrey Prince. We both had Gary Harris.

[00:13:19]We both had Bobby Portis. We both had AJ Green. We both had Usman Garuba.

[00:13:26]And I believe was that the full list for both of us? Did we have the exact same?

[00:13:31]I think so. Gary Harris, too.

[00:13:33]Uh did I not say Gary Harris? Yeah, we both had Gary Harris in there. Uh yeah, the only difference was um I had Kuz initially and then I bumped him into the exceed. So our met was identical for these these two. I don't know about you, the the toughest one for me was Giannis. Mhm. Um what we saw early in the season and the dominance there, that's what I expected.

[00:14:00]The injuries obviously derailed it.

[00:14:03]What I grappled with wasn't necessarily the statistics or any of that, it was you know, we've talked about it's a shared blame.

[00:14:12]There was a lot that hung over this team. Mhm. And I think that's something the organization has to wear. I think it's something that Giannis has to wear as well.

[00:14:21]And my expectations of my best player on the team and the the guy that is supposed to be the leader of the team is to the group out of that. So that is what I struggled with the most. I still felt because it's a shared blame there and you know, statistically what we saw early on and then by the end when the numbers started to dip, there was obviously injuries and the season was lost at that point anyway that I just kind of overlooked and said, you know, when when we saw him early on the court, he gave me everything that I expected to see. So that's where I'm going to leave it at. Yeah, that was the hardest one for me as well. Like for a second I was going to send you a message back and be like Just exclude Giannis, yeah. Like are we doing incompletes here? Can I put Giannis and KPJ and honestly even Torrey Prince in just like a And Usman Garuba to a lesser extent, too, you know. Like just not enough information to make a decision, but then I said, "No, I'm just going I'm going to put everyone in a bucket." And I ended up putting Giannis in the meet expectations as well as you mentioned. But it was a hard one for me because I honestly was thinking like did he should he come in at didn't meet expectations because of Yeah. because of the off-court stuff and just what that kind of did to the the spirit of the team at times and just like the off-court part that bled on court in addition to that. When your own player uh calls the league and says investigate my team, >> [laughter] >> it's what where does this rank at on the list? But I settled on still meeting expectations overall because when he was on the court, even though it was a career low, 36 games.

[00:15:56]He was trying he was giving you the Giannis experience, especially before the injuries. Like when the season had started and he was >> When he was on the court and healthy and there wasn't a minutes restriction and yeah.

[00:16:06]Yes, because it feels like of the 36 games, and this is just me rough like rough estimate, I feel like he played like 35, 40% of those games that he did play dealing with something where you're just like he doesn't look right. Like he's he's playing through something right now, but yeah, Giannis, I mean, career high PR this season. Again, only 36 games, but Which doesn't feel like it, either.

[00:16:33]Right, it didn't. But when I looked, I was like, "Damn, this is the >> [laughter] >> highest that he's had of his career."

[00:16:38]And it I think it goes to show again of just how good Giannis is that even like when he's quote-unquote down, you're just like he's still going to give you 27 and nine and >> [laughter] >> and five. Like it's crazy how talented he is, but it was some things in the game where it's just like, "Man, this this year didn't go as planned." And the expectation for Giannis, I think to bring it back to that, is just like I thought we were going to get to the point Giannis. I thought we were going to get maybe a career high in assists for Giannis this year and some things just didn't pan out that way. But some of that I don't put on Giannis as much as I do of just like that's just not how the team ended up playing. But injuries took so much out of it. It felt like just leaving him at meet expectations was the right place to keep him.

[00:17:19]Um for the rest of the group, Bobby is the quintessential meets expectations player, I I think. Um Gary Harris, same. I did not have much in terms of expectations. We did not see much.

[00:17:33]Um Torrey Prince, I toyed with moving to exceeds just because of you thought his season was definitely over and possibly career over and and he returned. When we saw him on the floor, it was meets expectations, exactly what I expected to get from him, but as we saw that that was a valuable piece and it would have helped to have had that early in the season when the season was starting to slide. Uh Andre Jackson Jr.

[00:18:00]and Thanasis, pretty similar to the Gary Harris and to a lesser extent Torrey Prince of like I know what we signed up for here.

[00:18:09]That's exactly what I got. So not saying I'm pleased, but I didn't have higher expectations for it. So Yeah. that's where we're at there. The one other interesting one um if it weren't for the last what, 2 weeks of the season, would you have placed AJ Green in did not meet?

[00:18:32]He would have been closer to it. I think I still might have put him into meets expectation even if he didn't have the last couple of weeks of the season that he did have. Yeah. Um but the thing with AJ is that what I expected him to do was just come in and be that shooter. AJ is somebody who by nature I'm like when he's on the court with Giannis, I think his value is enhanced because of the gravity of Giannis and being able to create more open shots for shooters. But without Giannis, I felt like AJ really kind of had to struggle through to find some things uh of being just not a shooter. And which led me to like after the season closed, it was like I think AJ is still a very valuable player. I love the fact that he was able to shoot 40% from three on the season after going through some dips in the year where he shot 26 and a half percent from December to January and then like 30% from February to March before finishing the season on a really high note.

[00:19:27]But he has some playmaking flashes for me where I was like, "I'm kind of interested in seeing what this becomes."

[00:19:31]Not saying I think he's like a primary ball handler or anything like that, but can he just be a guy on like second side actions, third side actions where it's just like "Okay, you can he can actually make something happen." And then it's like what he needs to continue to add to his game um is just on the nights where that shooting isn't falling, the threes ain't falling, how else can you be valuable? Can it be some of that play making? Can it be putting the ball on the floor and and getting to a mid-range shot or driving and creating for others?

[00:20:01]I don't know if that's in his bag.

[00:20:03]But, there were some flashes at times where I'm like, I wonder what the summer of development is focusing on this. Can he be better at these areas going forward? You know what might push it to be in a part of his bag is one of the guys that exceeded expectations, Cormac Ryan, and seeing like okay, I'm going to have to match what he's doing here and that that competition can be a good thing. There's when you mentioned the pairing of Giannis and AJ together, there's one comparison that I'm still [laughter] internally workshopping. I don't know if I'm ready to throw it out there, so we'll see. Coming up after the break, if I've tested it enough, and we'll throw out this comparison of those two together versus broken up, and then you can already deduce who's on the list of did not meet expectations, and I don't think it will be a surprise for many of you. So, we'll reveal that list coming up after this.

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[00:22:21]So, the pairing of AJ Green and Giannis, when we see them together, um it's like Harlem Heat. Like, you Oh, yeah, this works. This is perfect. Tag champions. When you break them up, I mean, Giannis is still Booker T, who goes on to be a multi-time champion, one of the greats.

[00:22:40]AJ had his moments like Stevie Ray won the US title or something else and was a part of the nWo, but he was never Booker T, and it would just never looked right with other tag partners and everything else of like, uh I completely forgot that Stevie Ray was in the nWo, but like, who wasn't at this point when [laughter] you think back to WCW days? Forgot about that.

[00:23:02]Um maybe seven of you will get that reference. All right. The did not meet expectations.

[00:23:11]Pretty simple, pretty cut and dry. We also, I believe, had the exact same list for this because, of course, there's one name that you weren't sure if to include. I omitted altogether, but I would put him in this category if we if we if we did rate him, and that is Cam Johnson. Cam Johnson. Cam Thomas.

[00:23:31]Cam Johnson, I mean, maybe he's does not meets for the Denver Nuggets.

[00:23:35]Uh the rest of the group.

[00:23:38]I mean, we start with the obvious, Myles Turner. Mhm. I am still very optimistic with a different coach, and maybe that is Taylor Jenkins.

[00:23:50]Um I'm still optimistic of it's going to look better, it's going to look different with more definition and a clearer scheme and utilizing Myles better because just as we talked about shared blames with the Giannis situation, Myles' performance and numbers is a shared blame as well. But, that being said, there was a clear disconnect in organizational importance and their expectations versus coaching and everything else with the usage that we saw from Myles. We also heard Doc Rivers many times candidly critical of Myles Turner throughout the process. Um we never heard any of that from Myles, and again, all we heard was, "Hey, I just do what I'm told to do, and I go out and and do my job."

[00:24:38]Which I I can appreciate, but for all intents and purposes, you're paying Myles Turner $50 this season. You I mean, not only do you not get that, you didn't get the $25 million worth of production this year. No, fewest minutes of his career, fewest shot attempts, fewest points, fewest block shots, career low in rebounds. It just it didn't [clears throat] it didn't work this season for for Myles with the Bucks. And I think hearing him say it, too, was like, oh, I'm so glad that you have the awareness to be like, yeah, this wasn't exactly what I was hoping for, either. And I think to your point about a new coaching staff, with him with a different franchise, just trying to kind of get a lay of the land, understand things, while also having his role consistently changing throughout the season of what he's being asked to do, was a lot on him. And he didn't do his part of speaking up enough being or being more assertive about what it is that he feels he can do for the team and then trying to execute those things, even to his own admission on that part. So, yeah, he's definitely in the did not meet expectations category, but just because he falls there this season doesn't mean like everything is, you know, out the window and it can't be fixed. I do think that he can be better next year. And when he was on the court with Giannis, you saw like the numbers were actually pretty decent for the team as a whole when the two of them shared the floor together. So, like, I think Myles said something like, "You can see the vision of like what it's like with me and Giannis, but it would be nice to actually feel the vision and actually play it out." And that's where it is with the Myles Turner experience, too, I think, where it's like, yeah, in theory it was it made sense, but we're going to have to actually see something more feasible this upcoming season.

[00:26:27]So, he he could be your Kyle Kuzma next year.

[00:26:29]>> be.

[00:26:32]Um Yeah, and and like, here's we are optimistic that we're not having this conversation next year. Um for the other names on the list, I don't have that same optimism.

[00:26:46]Um Alex Antetokounmpo, we both threw on there. I don't even know what the expectations were. There there were very, very few to begin with.

[00:26:56]When when we did get a chance to see it, it somehow didn't even meet that.

[00:27:01]Wait. Wait.

[00:27:02]>> That's That's all I have to share on Alex. When when you're in a situation when you only have like seven active bodies and still not getting the time on the court, I was like, no. So, >> [laughter] >> this isn't This is going into did not meet expectations.

[00:27:17]Um you want a further recap of Alex Antetokounmpo and uh his performance with Wisconsin, heard none of it.

[00:27:28]Ty and Rohan on the Eurostep have covered that ad nauseam, so there's some things that I'll just leave it to them to say. If you want to you want to find that, uh go check those guys out. The other one is Gary Trent Jr., and it was a disastrous season for Gary Trent Jr.

[00:27:49]Um So much so that, you know, I I wonder what he even does with his player option because in the one hand, you're inclined to think like, "Boy, if that's the season that you have, like, you're definitely picking up that player option, huh?" Kind of similar to what people would say about Gary Harris.

[00:28:04]I don't know. Like, if you're Gary Trent, I mean, it's basically the league minimum, and if that's what my market is, I can go find the league minimum elsewhere, and maybe there's somebody else that'll put me in a better spot or needs me a little more because now suddenly you got AJ Green in front of you. If you keep a pick that first to be it's a lot of two guards there that all of a sudden you're continuing to add these guys. Who knows what other names or whatever trades, I should say, the Bucks could do this summer as well that all of a sudden you're starting to get buried on the depth chart, and um I do expect him to decline the player option and just move on and and try to find a cleaner fit elsewhere. But, that's that's another one that's complicated because, you know, we wondered about the time share with he and AJ, and also we came into the season thinking that okay, it's either Kevin Porter Jr. or Ryan Rollins that starts.

[00:28:57]And then these two guys are starting next to each other. And you know, what, 9 minutes into the season that changed with the KPJ injury, but then further in two or so weeks we got in, it also changed when you just kind of saw we can't play this group together. Even though it kept dragging on, I think that impacted both AJ and Gary Trent, and then ultimately when the decision was made, it was AJ, and Gary Trent became buried even more.

[00:29:24]Yeah, and that was the disappointing part, right? When he signed that contract in the offseason, it was like, man, this is like it'd be a bargain. Like, he's going to be one of the best five, six players on this team based on what we saw end last season.

[00:29:39]Which I think is why this was such a disappointing campaign because there were such high hopes for Gary Trent after having a really great season for the team last year and that playoff performance that he had against the Pacers where it felt like hey there's something here and it it just never quite came together. I saw that the Bucks were actually 9.2 points worse per 100 possessions when Trent was on the It was really bad early in the season especially. It was bad. And when you think about that lineup that Porter Trent Green Giannis Portis group that last year was just just killing the game when you put Miles Turner in for Bobby Portis I saw that this lineup was still very successful they had a plus 42.9 net rating but they barely played 17 minutes together this season like it just it wasn't there for Gary this year. I was happy to see him kind of knock down some shots at the end of the year when guys felt the rotation and playing time became more available until he also kind of got hurt down the stretch but just not the year expected from from Gary.

[00:30:43]I remember seeing I I forget who it is now but I remember seeing somebody um over the the off season saying with all the haggling and back and forth over what is going to happen um in Philly with Quentin Grimes like whoa.

[00:31:00]The main point that they made was like I don't if that's what Quentin Grimes is looking for for money cuz for a while we heard it was oh he wants $20 million per year.

[00:31:09]Like why would I pay you that if I can get Gary Trent Jr.

[00:31:13]for you know less than a fifth of that and you're thinking like yeah that's a that's a good point and now you're like I think I'll just pay Quentin Grimes what he's asking for if those are my options but again like the the the challenge with it too was the one year deal thing right? With the Giannis thing hanging over you and then all these guys that were on a one year deal or player options like it's not been a selfish thing that at some point it just becomes subconscious that you're playing for that contract and you're pressing more and you got to stand out more and for Gary I think we saw that earlier in the season and then he just kind of got buried and similar to EJ you started to see it towards the end of like oh yeah this is what we started this is what we saw for large portions of last season but by then it was far too late and again you you just had other guys that could give you the same thing so I think he'd be the first to say too it was a disappointing season all around for Gary Trent Jr. Yeah and consistency was a big part of it for him too of I know he himself mentioned like minutes wise they weren't there for me like when he started getting the playing time he was like biggest change for me is just the consistency of me knowing I'm going to be out here so it was tough for him. I know we're getting tight on time but I am really curious to see what this off season looks like for Gary Trent Jr.

[00:32:30]He's one of the names on this team where I'm like what is he going to do with the player option guys? Maybe we do a player option show coming up soon just kind of highlighting all of those cases but really curious to see what happens with with Gary Trent Jr.

[00:32:43]Trent to yeah I mean trying to pull up the Lakers cap sheet and just see like okay if Luke Kennard bounces in free agency if he is a free agent does another clutch guy go to LA [laughter] on a one year deal here? Um but yeah the the the team player option is a discussion we will get into all throughout this off season here for the Bucks. All right leave your thoughts on our list what you disagree with who is the most did not meet that's not even a word but who is the most did not meet expectations who far exceeded expectations for you as well. Leave your thoughts in the comments and we'll get into those on our next show. A reminder again to go ahead and sign up for the every dayer club we mentioned our first get together that we had with our every dayers on Wednesday night and something we're going to do monthly here your chance to ask us whatever you want throw on some games in the background talk about the state of the league whatever questions that you have for us in this Bucks season as a whole so it's an open canvas in these get togethers that that we have with our every dayers and your chance to join those is to sign up for the every dayer club you get ad free episodes of Locked On Bucks and access to the discord and events like this as well.

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