The Hat Chat Podcast #217 - The Chimp Crusades: Choose A Side!

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:16]Stunning, stunning work there. Oh, >> that's your song, but they done it better.

[00:00:20]>> Yeah. On a acoustic guitar. Thank you, Gregory Chamberlain to kick off the Hatchack podcast. It's episode number 355,421 >> 17 >> since the new one started, right? Where ising all?

[00:00:33]>> No, that's the new one.

[00:00:34]>> The old old the original.

[00:00:37]>> So, there we go. before podcasts were cool and making money which still >> an issue for us.

[00:00:42]>> 217 >> we're here >> and I'm still >> persevering through the crowds of podcasts.

[00:00:48]>> One of the longest running Yorks cast podcasts.

[00:00:51]>> I think it's the longest running.

[00:00:53]>> Yeah.

[00:00:53]>> Yeah.

[00:00:53]>> Yeah.

[00:00:54]>> Well, next to Triforce is a really long one, isn't it?

[00:00:56]>> Nope.

[00:00:57]>> When did that start?

[00:00:58]>> That started >> later than the new released hatchet, I think.

[00:01:04]>> Are you serious? because it's Pyion, Sips, and Lewis. They used to do one with Simon and Lewis >> back along, but that stopped.

[00:01:12]>> And it has nothing to do with Legend of Zelda.

[00:01:16]>> Nothing to do with it.

[00:01:17]>> Just to clarify.

[00:01:18]>> But hey, it's on our pickaxe network, so go check him out. And maybe Triforce people will check us out.

[00:01:26]>> I think they were going to They have and they've decided.

[00:01:28]>> It's an easy pivot, isn't it? Three white guys from England.

[00:01:33]>> Yeah.

[00:01:34]another three white guys 2016 >> 2016 it was launched yeah >> Triforce >> Triforce uh was launched this is according to an AI overview I'll point out um AI was used to find the result of this and it's scoured other websites which won't be getting ad revenue >> no March 23rd 2016 apparently >> and when did Hat start >> feel free I reckon >> um well let's go let's go for it hat when was Hathat podcast launched >> stats >> using the same technology It's got the name wrong. It's called The Hatchet.

[00:02:05]Hatchet and a Canadian investigative podcast focused on power and money was launched on November 28th.

[00:02:11]>> The Hatchet, >> 2024.

[00:02:13]>> Um, I'm going to change that to Hat Podcast and it says September 2011. That was the original >> 2011.

[00:02:21]>> That ran from 20 uh 2011 to October 2016.

[00:02:23]>> 15 years.

[00:02:24]>> So, they started their podcast when we finished our first season.

[00:02:28]>> That's what I was saying. The first >> Yeah. Yeah. Then we started again in April 2019.

[00:02:32][ __ ] me >> 2016.

[00:02:34]>> I know this this current one that people are listening to started it up again in 2019 April.

[00:02:39]>> I think we should do some sort of crossover with them where we like interview them and they interview us and we ask them what like to worry about in the next 5 years like cuz they're they're about 5 years older than us, aren't they? It would be nice if it was a clean decade, but the reality is it's not. Um >> you mean ask them what to what we should expect?

[00:02:55]>> What we should expect? Yeah.

[00:02:57]>> We live very different lives, I'm sure.

[00:02:59]>> Do you think so?

[00:03:00]>> Well, maybe not. I don't know what Lewis does and I don't know if I do want to know.

[00:03:05]>> Do you differ from that?

[00:03:06]>> What? Masturbating?

[00:03:07]>> Yeah, >> I've done it.

[00:03:10]>> Oh god, I've admitted that in front of people.

[00:03:14]>> From was at school, was there a point where people were like, "No, I don't do that."

[00:03:18]>> And it's like, come on.

[00:03:19]>> You've done it. I can't remember school doing it right now.

[00:03:22]>> And then everyone said, "No, no, no. I would never. Oh, I don't do it.

[00:03:26]>> I wouldn't waste God's seed." I think it would be my ankle.

[00:03:28]>> Now people are joking like [ __ ] jester gooning maxes.

[00:03:32]>> Well, it's a great way to lose weight like with these like calorie rich diets we're all on now, you know. What do >> you mean? What do you mean the exercise or do you mean losing >> losing physical matter?

[00:03:42]>> Apart from spitting loads.

[00:03:44]>> Spitting.

[00:03:45]>> What else? Other ways I'm pissing.

[00:03:46]>> That's true. How else are you going to get like things expelled from spitting at gyms?

[00:03:51]>> Yeah, there needs to be more.

[00:03:53]>> Well, that's what I'm saying. So, how else do you get rid of them? I think we need to bring back vomitoriums.

[00:03:57]>> Yeah.

[00:03:57]>> Do you remember those?

[00:03:58]>> Roman times.

[00:03:59]>> You weren't around then, but >> back in the day. Um the Greek around.

[00:04:03]>> I thought it was Roman. Is it Greek?

[00:04:05]>> There was one in >> what's the place that got ashed by a volcano?

[00:04:11]>> Oh, that would be >> Pompei. I went there and I forgot the name.

[00:04:14]>> Pompeo Pompe.

[00:04:15]>> There was a vomitorium in Pompe. So, it's probably Rome.

[00:04:17]>> It could likely be Roman then.

[00:04:19]>> Yeah. So yes, vomitoriums >> is where you eat and drink to excess, but you have a place to go >> to throw it all up.

[00:04:28]>> [ __ ] hell.

[00:04:28]>> And people just throw up on the floor.

[00:04:30]>> Yeah.

[00:04:30]>> It's wild.

[00:04:31]>> That's like considered quite an unhealthy activity now.

[00:04:35]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, just I don't want to burst your bubble.

[00:04:38]>> I was just literally talking about bring them back.

[00:04:41]>> Can't can't do that. It's been it's it's quite uh quite an illness really.

[00:04:45]>> I thought that's the fix. You know, you can eat whatever you want. throw it up.

[00:04:49]>> No, it's called a zeic. Now, that's the one.

[00:04:51]>> Zic.

[00:04:52]>> And you can just eat as much as you want, which is less >> less because you don't want to cuz >> it's pretty, isn't it?

[00:04:57]>> The the hormones released in your body suppress it, right?

[00:05:00]>> Precisely.

[00:05:02]>> Um I don't know how we got to that. But Oh, cuz the spitting thing. How much how big is your load?

[00:05:09]>> [ __ ] hell.

[00:05:10]>> Well, you were talking about losing weight load >> and I feel like >> always >> any load that he expels from his body.

[00:05:16]Um, it's a good sort of like three or four dessert spoons, I say.

[00:05:22]>> He's scooping out with dessert spoons.

[00:05:25]>> Do you not have multiple spoons to measure things?

[00:05:28]>> No, it's like a >> measuring maybe like a tablespoon at most.

[00:05:33]>> Tablespoon.

[00:05:34]>> Yeah.

[00:05:34]>> Yeah.

[00:05:35]>> How much? Okay. This is something we didn't cover at school.

[00:05:37]>> Get a Pyrex jug.

[00:05:38]>> Ah, okay. Yeah.

[00:05:39]>> Right. And >> how big is the jug? How How big should the jug be?

[00:05:42]>> A regular size Pyrex jug.

[00:05:44]>> That's okay. I've got measuring lines in the side. Yeah, I've got one of those in cups as well.

[00:05:47]>> You hit the bottom line for American 250 mil.

[00:05:50]>> 250 mil. That's half the Pyrex.

[00:05:53]>> A quart liter.

[00:05:54]>> That's a That's my god.

[00:05:55]>> Well, this I mean this I'm holding a cup here which holds 320 mil. So that's actually quite less than that >> amount of an enormous amount for one load.

[00:06:05]>> Large amount of fluid. It's >> crazy.

[00:06:07]>> The weight of it is actually quite a lot as well. I obviously the cup weighs a bit, but the fluid itself that must be quite a relieving moment.

[00:06:13]>> Next week I'll bring some in. I think we should. I think just for science.

[00:06:16]>> Got that in one load.

[00:06:17]>> Bring a sandwich bag.

[00:06:18]>> That's crazy.

[00:06:19]>> Bring a sandwich bag. So then we and we'll bring a microscope and see what's going on in that.

[00:06:23]>> Can you Google the average?

[00:06:25]>> Uh what the average? Okay.

[00:06:26]>> Don't do it in private tab.

[00:06:28]>> What am I doing? What's my average?

[00:06:29]What's the average?

[00:06:30]>> What's the average ejaculation amount?

[00:06:33]>> Um ejaculation in millimeters.

[00:06:36]Milliliters. Sorry. Um didn't give me didn't give me an AI summary.

[00:06:41]>> Huh.

[00:06:42]Um, maybe we didn't ask the right question. Here we go. Here we go. I put amount. Uh, the average ejaculation actually ejaculation amount is typically between 1.5 milliliters and 5 milliliters.

[00:06:54]>> Roughly one quarter to one teaspoon.

[00:06:57]>> You're doing 250 times.

[00:06:58]>> Even a tablespoon was actually a tablespoon was was way off.

[00:07:01]>> That's crazy.

[00:07:02]>> A te I think a teaspoon is quite low though.

[00:07:05]>> I think I could fill a teaspoon.

[00:07:07]>> I could fill a couple of teaspoons.

[00:07:08]>> This is a horrible, >> you know. Uh, yeah. But I'm not losing much weight from doing this is my point.

[00:07:14]And I think the exercise in itself is only really working out a couple of muscles.

[00:07:17]>> You know those goo desserts >> still the glass one >> ramicans. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:23]>> Oh, from Goo.

[00:07:25]>> I've got three or four.

[00:07:27]>> I've got some of those just in my cabinet. And you never know what to do with them. I know what to do with clues in the name.

[00:07:32]>> Do them. So it's 700 p.m.

[00:07:34]>> You probably have a tea, right?

[00:07:37]>> Probably have a tea time. Yeah. Maybe some biscuits.

[00:07:39]>> Jesus.

[00:07:40]>> But not too many. You don't want to take the whole packet in.

[00:07:42]>> Yeah.

[00:07:42]>> You put enough in the goo cuz you don't have too many. Put it in the goo glass.

[00:07:46]>> I think you could fit a full digestive just perfectly into the >> goo. Oreos or >> I know, but I'm just diameter wise. I think that's almost a digestive in it in size.

[00:07:56]>> How many in How many do you get in the goo?

[00:07:59]>> Uh, three.

[00:08:00]>> Three in the goo.

[00:08:01]>> Three in the goo.

[00:08:02]>> There's no lid on those goo. So you you have you >> maybe you made Oh, you could 3D print your own lid.

[00:08:06]>> I don't want I did. I have done that actually out TPU. Yeah. Have you actually?

[00:08:10]>> Yeah. I've got lids on the goose and they make them far more >> useful. Yeah. Cuz then you could put like I don't know gum in them.

[00:08:16]>> I've been collecting my jizz.

[00:08:17]>> Yeah. And then freezing.

[00:08:19]>> Freeze it low enough.

[00:08:20]>> Freeze cuz it'll denature them.

[00:08:21]>> Yeah.

[00:08:22]>> But how how to to store your semen?

[00:08:27]>> Yeah.

[00:08:27]>> How how cold does it have to be?

[00:08:29]>> You want to flash freeze them if you can. But not many people are going to have that kind of equipment.

[00:08:34]>> If you slowly freeze them in a regular freezer, they'll expand as the freezing process starts and destroy them.

[00:08:38]>> Yeah. How cold to freeze semen for later use? It must be frozen and stored at get this 196 sorry minus 196° >> first. Yeah, >> which is for the Americans that don't listen minus 320° F.

[00:08:55]>> Jeez, >> that's cold.

[00:08:57]>> That's pretty close to absolute zero.

[00:08:59]The temperature at which particles have no energy at all, which I believe is 3.

[00:09:02]>> Well, that would make sense.

[00:09:04]>> Keep se in it dormant state. Yeah, you got to really freeze mine. Those things are active.

[00:09:10]>> Trying to bust out.

[00:09:11]>> Anyway, we are missing something really important today. And it's a war, but not just any war. It's the Ugandan primate war.

[00:09:20]>> Oh, yeah. No, I've seen this. Yeah.

[00:09:21]>> Two tribes have gone to war, >> but they're chimps.

[00:09:24]>> Ugandan primates. They're chimps. It >> is. It's a civil war.

[00:09:27]>> There's 200 chimpanzees are embroiled in a civil war.

[00:09:31]>> Holy crap. How did this happen? Has it been escalating for some time?

[00:09:35]>> Well, they used to be friends. The whole lot of them used to hug. They used to like hang out together.

[00:09:39]>> Holy [ __ ] What happened?

[00:09:41]>> It said they split into two factions here.

[00:09:43]>> That's crazy.

[00:09:44]>> A line was crossed.

[00:09:46]>> I'd love to know what line was cross.

[00:09:48]>> Now they're killing each other at unprecedented levels.

[00:09:50]>> Have you seen that documentary which David Atenburgh >> the one where they're like hunting other orangutan?

[00:09:57]>> Orangutan might not be that one, but there was one where where it was showing they were like eating each other as well. They were like kind of crashing into their skulls and then eating their brains.

[00:10:06]>> A really good oneliner from our live studio audience.

[00:10:09]>> Yeah.

[00:10:09]>> Monkey see monkey coup.

[00:10:11]>> Nice. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:10:13]>> Yeah. They're using the military to break rebelling against their own government.

[00:10:17]>> You worried about the split? You worried about the chim?

[00:10:20]>> I'm extremely worried about the split.

[00:10:21]Which side are you going to choose?

[00:10:22]>> Well, I don't know what sides they what they call >> I need to know. I need to weigh up what what they're fighting for on both sides.

[00:10:28]Like who's it must be a familiar thing like someone hugged too hard or something.

[00:10:34]>> We got chimpanzeee and chimpan. Uh so >> what about the rest of them?

[00:10:38]>> What chimpan?

[00:10:39]>> No chimpan that could be a third group.

[00:10:41]Yeah. Chimpan.

[00:10:43]>> Apparently this only happens like every 500 years. Scientists have said >> that's a long time.

[00:10:49]>> Have they checked like historical records?

[00:10:51]>> Oh great.

[00:10:52]>> How do they know that?

[00:10:53]>> I don't know.

[00:10:55]>> How do you measure that? 500 years.

[00:10:56]You're always keeping an eye on >> the chimp wars began. Have >> uh yes, stop the presses. The chimps are doing it again.

[00:11:04]>> Does that suggest?

[00:11:05]>> No. 500 years time I can do it again.

[00:11:07]>> Does that suggest Why is it 500 years? Cuz if chimpanzees don't carry historical records or pass on information >> through either verbal or physical means, >> how does that mounting tension build over multiple generations of chimpanzeee? I'd imagine it happened like a lot.

[00:11:27]>> There'll be there'll be like a breaking point, won't there? Or a turning point if you forgive me. Um, >> it's just families and so >> I reckon a particularly hot chimp was born and they all like this is my actual theory. A particularly hot chimp was born and they all wanted the hot chimp like no. What do you mean no?

[00:11:45]>> And one person went no.

[00:11:47]>> Oh no.

[00:11:48]>> And then it started >> Jesus.

[00:11:50]>> And then first chimp gets killed.

[00:11:52]There's a retaliatory strike, you know, and it just escalates from there. Blood begets blood. Chimp eats chimp.

[00:11:58]>> Damn. What's the actual information?

[00:12:01]>> Well, it says here relied on three decades of data. So, it's obviously a massive estimation of >> not 500.

[00:12:08]>> Uh, dating to 1995 from Kibal National Park in Uganda, home to the chimp chimpanzees.

[00:12:15]>> You have to say it.

[00:12:15]>> I might not be saying it properly.

[00:12:17]>> I don't think I sound local.

[00:12:18]>> Nice attempt.

[00:12:19]>> You sound local to Bristol. Go. End go chimpanzees. A community of about 200 individuals. Social relationships here clump around two primary groups named the central and western clusters.

[00:12:33]>> Oh, so they do have names. That's a team. Choose one.

[00:12:36]>> Central or Western?

[00:12:36]>> I think.

[00:12:37]>> Central is the best. Western is the best.

[00:12:40]>> Find out. Find out what happened.

[00:12:42]>> For decades, they formed a single community in which chimpanzees shared territory. changed which cluster they most often affiliated with and mated with individuals from the other cluster until 2015 says the study's lead author Aaron Sandell >> then what >> a pimeatlogist at the University of Texas at Austin >> sure >> good on them >> um on June 24th of that year Sandell was observing champion chimpanzees when a western party approached a central one >> oh [ __ ] >> normally the two would mingle and then split this is when they filmed Plan of the Apes.

[00:13:18]>> Andy Circus went down there and was just like, "This is great content for a film.

[00:13:22]>> This is this could make >> started writing."

[00:13:25]>> Yeah. I think Planet of the Apes came out >> way before.

[00:13:28]>> Way before. Yeah.

[00:13:28]>> Maybe he knew about the history.

[00:13:30]>> Yeah. There's life imitating art.

[00:13:32]>> Also, there was a 70s version of Planet of the X, >> that's the old one. Yeah.

[00:13:35]>> That freaking the [ __ ] out.

[00:13:36]>> Say yes. Say yes. Um, >> probably what instilled your fear, isn't it? Normally the two would mingle and then split, but this time the western chimps quieted when they heard their central groupmates. Then they ran away and the central bunch chased after them.

[00:13:50]>> Nothing like that had been observed for four. Sandell said, >> "Why did they go silent and run?"

[00:13:55]>> Even his colleague John Mitani, a University of Michigan behavioral ecologist who had studied chimpanzees for two decades, didn't know what to make of the scuffle.

[00:14:05]He's rarely surprised by what they do.

[00:14:08]out here.

[00:14:10]>> I'm really surprised that you know they'll I just I see it coming.

[00:14:14]>> Creatures, >> they say hi and that's it.

[00:14:18]>> Uh so then they separated geographically and socially. By 2017, the two groups occupied entirely distinct territories uh and they hate each other.

[00:14:26]>> Trolled their borders against outsiders.

[00:14:29]The following year, deadly violence ensued. Yeah.

[00:14:31]>> Oh, it's not cool.

[00:14:32]>> So they So yeah, something happened. One of them tried to intervene. Maybe the hot chimpanzeee was a point of contention >> sh run away run away and they all ran away >> and they saw them running away border lines.

[00:14:46]>> I mean, you can see how happens. I don't know if you guys been to any zoos where they have chimps, but sometimes they're pretty hot.

[00:14:53]I >> I thought you were going to observe like them meeting each other and sometimes >> I'd be like, "That's the hot one."

[00:14:59]>> You can tell.

[00:15:00]>> You can tell they all want that one.

[00:15:01]>> The 500 years Civil War.

[00:15:04]>> That's where it all begins.

[00:15:05]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A horror film that came out recently about a chimpanzeee. I haven't seen it.

[00:15:09]>> Uh of the part two, three, four, and five.

[00:15:12]>> Yeah.

[00:15:15]Action adventure films. What do you mean?

[00:15:17]>> Yeah, they're action films.

[00:15:19]>> Fun for the whole family.

[00:15:20]>> Remember that was on >> humanity is fighting against intelligent chimps. That's something [ __ ] nightmare.

[00:15:24]>> What was the flight we took when it was in it was playing on the public screens?

[00:15:28]>> Oh, yeah. I couldn't escape in the aisle. It was the same flight where I was listening to the air traffic control as we were taking off >> and they said somebody was having a rapid decompression while I was like >> that was a bad flight for you.

[00:15:39]>> That was a real bad flight. Yeah. I was like on I was listening I was like oh cool you can listen to air traffic control on a little intercom thing and they're like >> terror 34. This is so we are at 4,000 ft and we have no air pressure over and I'm just like >> oh my god am I hearing this? I like we're coming down and I'm like oh god >> should be listening >> on the [ __ ] public televisions on comes a film we all get to watch together. What is it? [ __ ] Planet of the Apes 2 or three or something and I'm just like, "No, no."

[00:16:04]>> This is We dressed as apes once.

[00:16:07]>> We did.

[00:16:08]>> So, did that >> I like that because it ridicules them >> and I feel like that takes >> Yeah. Look how stupid I look.

[00:16:13]>> By ridiculing them, it takes away their power.

[00:16:15]>> Yeah.

[00:16:16]>> Yeah. We did a full 2001 Space Odyssey for a brand deal.

[00:16:19]>> Yeah.

[00:16:20]>> For a laptop.

[00:16:21]>> Yeah.

[00:16:21]>> That's pretty good, isn't it? That was Well, we stole the idea.

[00:16:24]>> Yeah.

[00:16:25]>> From Kubri.

[00:16:26]>> Yeah. or whoever wrote the the film. I know he directed it, but I guess we we stole his visual idea >> which was the apes dancing around a laptop.

[00:16:36]>> We threw a laptop. Actually, the the obelisk was the laptop, wasn't it? Did we do the whole bone thing into the space station? I don't think we did that.

[00:16:43]>> No, I don't know if we did.

[00:16:45]>> Advanced, >> but we did um Well, were you kind of caged one of us? Was were you caged and we made us make love?

[00:16:53]>> Yeah. Yeah. Eyes and bars. you you watch and we made love and you had to watch it like a >> I can't believe we got that.

[00:16:58]>> We made him park in a brand deal.

[00:17:03]>> A dressed up eight. We didn't get they didn't come back.

[00:17:05]>> They loved it though.

[00:17:05]>> They never came back. And I feel like that's the brave decisions you don't see on TV very often.

[00:17:10]>> Most people want to repeated business.

[00:17:13]We obviously were just like this is a one and done. Let's just >> Was it ASA? Was it HP? Was it >> MSI?

[00:17:20]>> MSI maybe.

[00:17:20]>> Was it a ROE?

[00:17:22]>> Could have been MSI I think. Yeah. No.

[00:17:24]Uh I think it was Aces. I don't think we got to keep the laptop.

[00:17:27]>> The other one was when I got kidnapped and Mchi was the hacker.

[00:17:31]>> Oh yeah, that was okay. I think they like them. That wasn't so >> We did multiply.

[00:17:35]>> The Apon was draw, I think.

[00:17:38]>> Yeah, we didn't make anyone cuck in that last one.

[00:17:39]>> Incredibly high quality brand deal ideas, but not enough people watch them.

[00:17:42]>> No, >> I thought we released a version that didn't have the cucking in and then we released the cucking one like >> anyway as a little funny video that we wanted to make.

[00:17:51]>> They asked us to take that out. They think I'm pretty sure they may have >> in those words.

[00:17:55]>> So, can you just take a kick out the cucking scene and then we love it?

[00:17:58]>> Well, it's cuz we Well, we were just like, "Yeah, you have to watch." And then we just like screamed like chimpanzees [ __ ] >> Well, that's what they do, though.

[00:18:06]>> They're horrible creatures.

[00:18:07]>> Was that after we had >> instruction on how to be apes from Neil Newbon?

[00:18:14]>> It was after.

[00:18:14]>> Yeah, it was. It was just after. That's why we were so hyped about it.

[00:18:17]>> Yeah, it was it was our ape era.

[00:18:18]>> Professionally trained.

[00:18:19]>> We had an era of apes. We had an era of orcs era. We've had ears and that's the two of them named. Um, we had a Minecraft ear and then we didn't dress up as Minecraft.

[00:18:30]>> We didn't act like Steve.

[00:18:31]>> We never dressed up as Steve.

[00:18:32]>> Do we ever dress up as like Pokémon?

[00:18:35]>> No.

[00:18:36]>> All right. Well, um, >> chimp.

[00:18:38]>> Well, yeah. I mean, it says here they witnessed the Western adults kill seven males and 17 infants from the central group.

[00:18:45]>> Jesus Christ.

[00:18:47]>> Not the kids. They're >> horrible.

[00:18:48]>> So, are you siding with the central group here? because they were the ones attacked in this particular observation.

[00:18:56]>> Yeah, I'm going to side with the victims here because >> they're central. You're central.

[00:19:00]>> I'm central. And I would go down there.

[00:19:02]I'd maybe take some sort of heavy weapons to give them a little bit more power.

[00:19:06]>> Okay.

[00:19:06]>> I'd send them storm shadow missiles.

[00:19:08]>> I think that's unfair.

[00:19:08]>> You would train Would you train their chimps against the other chimps? Like maybe >> guess what the apes?

[00:19:14]>> You're you started it.

[00:19:16]>> Oh >> yeah, but at the end I' I'd have a dead man switch. I'd blow the lot of them up the end.

[00:19:21]>> Give them all necklaces. Yeah. That could blow up at any time just in case they go against you. We got a rogue.

[00:19:29]>> The leaders gone rogue.

[00:19:31]>> Sorry.

[00:19:31]>> The whole pack's gone.

[00:19:34]>> As I take off in a helicopter chimp, >> how do they know?

[00:19:38]>> Smashing rocks against >> Bob like like what's it called? Um battle royale. So yeah, then it says here that 14 adolescent or adult central males disappeared during that time as well. So yeah, it seems like central centrals are losing if anyone's trying to keep tally here.

[00:19:55]>> Uh the centrals were losing between 2018 and 2024.

[00:19:58]>> Um >> maybe we should start like a t-shirt campaign for them or something, you know, central apes. I support central >> apes, but surely we should be supporting the western ones because they're stronger and they'll look after us.

[00:20:08]>> You want to go for the more violent instigators.

[00:20:10]>> I think that we don't have much of a say in it. And I think that they'll write their own history as well once they learn. Victor is written by History is written by the Victors.

[00:20:17]>> Yeah.

[00:20:18]>> In 500 years time, we'd be looking back on this and being like, we saw this happen once before. Yeah. The Central were absolutely dunked on.

[00:20:25]>> They shouldn't have run away to begin with.

[00:20:27]>> We had to go for the Western. Well, that's it.

[00:20:29]>> They quieted them down and ran away and that that caused the West to chase him.

[00:20:33]That I think that's not the West's fault.

[00:20:35]>> I think they shouldn't be so suspicious.

[00:20:37]>> Yeah.

[00:20:38]>> They shouldn't have wanted to do such heinous acts to the hottest one there.

[00:20:42]>> Yeah. We don't really know that that's a narrative that we've created and are publishing now.

[00:20:47]>> It's a theory. It's a hot chimp theory.

[00:20:48]>> It's a theory. It's hot chimp hot off the presses.

[00:20:52]>> Um but yeah, their social relationships broke down. And that's that's a problem in our world as well when social relationships break down.

[00:20:58]>> Yeah. When communication stops, violence begins.

[00:21:01]>> Exactly. Um Tommy, would you start a fight with um the Pope?

[00:21:06]>> Probably not.

[00:21:07]>> Probably not. Leave that one. I think >> with any kind of leader of any religion, do you think you kind of just leave it there? Just be like, I'm not going to [ __ ] with this.

[00:21:14]>> Depends what they're saying really.

[00:21:16]>> If they're like, you know, like backing up horrible [ __ ] then maybe I would, but like if they're just >> What if they're just saying don't kill people?

[00:21:24]>> Probably. I'd just be like that.

[00:21:25]>> It's a strong thing to It's hard to argue against, isn't it? Um >> what if the Pope said chimps deserve the same freedoms and rights as humans? Yeah, >> I'd be like, this is a strange segway for the ch the pope to take, but I'll hear him out.

[00:21:40]>> They can get themselves a few new followers there.

[00:21:42]>> Yeah, I guess they could if they could uplift the chimps to become >> You get the westerns on board.

[00:21:47]>> I don't want the westerns on board.

[00:21:48]They're too violent. We can't trust them.

[00:21:49]>> You make them heavily religious as well.

[00:21:51]>> Like the Templars, they're going to be chimp crusades >> crusading everywhere.

[00:21:56]>> Why do the chimps want to go to Jerusalem?

[00:21:58]>> We've we know about war pope.

[00:22:01]>> War pope wants war.

[00:22:02]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:03]>> The real pope doesn't. Turns out >> quite boring.

[00:22:05]>> It's kind of weird. It's almost kind of predictable.

[00:22:08]>> It's almost Christian.

[00:22:09]>> It's almost Christian.

[00:22:10]>> Whatever that whatever that is these days.

[00:22:13]>> It's however you interpret it.

[00:22:14]>> That's a fun new chapter in this season of Trump >> of the World War.

[00:22:20]>> When's American Civil War going to kick off?

[00:22:22]>> Yeah.

[00:22:23]>> I hope it doesn't.

[00:22:23]>> That's a few seasons time. Few seasons time. It's got there's a few years left.

[00:22:27]>> Seems to be rising tension.

[00:22:28]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:22:29]>> I think >> whose side are you on then?

[00:22:32]It might split into several factions.

[00:22:34]Sounds like we've got like a Catholic faction just building on its own.

[00:22:37]>> Yeah. Well, I mean the Catholic >> there's Catholic there's two sides of the Catholic faction. There's the mega Catholic and then there's going to be the not mega actual Catholic.

[00:22:44]>> The actual >> versus the Catholic who read the Bible.

[00:22:47]Yeah.

[00:22:47]>> Rest of world. Rest of world Catholic.

[00:22:49]>> Yeah. Likeath. Yeah.

[00:22:52]>> [ __ ] hell. They're hosting a World Cup. I forget that. That's mental.

[00:22:56]>> What if um No. No. It's absurd. the the idea that the chimps would grow and take over humans.

[00:23:06]>> Do you think there could be a chimp pope?

[00:23:08]>> Thinking >> I'd like to think so. I'd like to see one in my lifetime.

[00:23:11]>> Yeah.

[00:23:12]>> You know, maybe a woman pope first >> with the leave hat.

[00:23:15]>> I I think woman pope first, then all the boundaries immediately followed by chimp pope.

[00:23:21]>> I think it's more likely chimp pope first.

[00:23:23]>> I think Well, yeah. Yeah. No, I think it's likely, but also I think it would then send a message to human pope >> that maybe, you know, we shouldn't just have these barriers. Are women even allowed to be like enlist? I don't even know how you how do you become a pope?

[00:23:36]The magic white smoke, isn't it?

[00:23:38]>> Well, I think you have to become a cardinal first. You have to go through the ranks of the of the Catholic priesthood.

[00:23:42]>> Yeah. God, it's real. You have to be a runner first.

[00:23:45]>> You got to be a runner.

[00:23:46]>> Yeah.

[00:23:46]>> Most of them are older to get there.

[00:23:48]>> Yeah.

[00:23:49]>> They put their time in. or you want to choose like a really small dascese or whatever they call them, you know, like somewhere really obscure. Yeah. Like, you know, you could be the bishop of like Western Super Mayor, but you'd only be um a choir boy in Bristol.

[00:24:03]>> And nobody wants to be a choir boy. It's worse than being a runner, right?

[00:24:06]>> Yeah.

[00:24:07]>> You >> only ever bashed the bishop.

[00:24:09]>> I want to know what happens in that conversation where they're deciding the new pope and then the the smoke comes on. Are they like, >> there's a really good film about this.

[00:24:18]You've got so many times I've just never flipped past it.

[00:24:22]>> Yeah. Really worth watching it.

[00:24:24]>> I'm interested. I'd like to assume >> Yeah. So, is it like a Is it a real gossip [ __ ] >> Where they're like Dave should never be pooped.

[00:24:32]>> That's 100% what it is.

[00:24:33]>> Is it really?

[00:24:34]>> Yeah. It's like And I'm sure that is the way it is. If I >> I saw him wanking in the cupboards. From what I've seen from like >> real life, I would imagine it's just like the most horrific >> like political [ __ ] basically.

[00:24:48]Also, I get the feeling it's kind of one of these things that people don't particularly want as in like you you want to you don't want to have to be the vote because it's just like a lot of work. Like it's much better to just be like the guy pulling the strings back.

[00:24:59]>> You don't get pay.

[00:25:01]>> The film by the way is called Conclave if you're interested know what I'm talking about. But it pretty much shows it as that. It's um it's it's like they're like, "Oh, I think it should be me. I don't think it should be me. I don't want it." And then they're like, "Yeah, but you could." And they're like, "Hm."

[00:25:14]>> In the film, do they create small boys like Clarency?

[00:25:18]>> They don't. But I think there's some discussion about it.

[00:25:21]>> It's kind of it's mentioned.

[00:25:23]>> I think maybe I can't quite remember now, but I think there's one >> boy with the highest voice is mine.

[00:25:30]>> That one's mine.

[00:25:31]>> Casti.

[00:25:32]>> Cast.

[00:25:32]>> Cast. Yeah, >> they're still secretly making >> Do they brush past those elements of >> Again, it's been a while since I watched it. I think there's there's certainly scandals and things like that to stop certain people from being pope.

[00:25:43]>> Did they touch on the alien technology they have in the Vatican?

[00:25:46]>> So, I was going to touch on this. Okay.

[00:25:47]>> Apparently the if aliens are real, there's a very good chance that um rather aliens are real as you know Barack Obama said, but whether or not we've had extraterrestrials come to our planet is probably a better way of putting it >> to on >> on really if you land on it, you land on it, don't you? Don't land to it.

[00:26:06]>> Come on.

[00:26:07]>> Um then apparently the Vatican had a big hand in like dealing with it like in Italy. There's there's a lot of reported sightings in Italy and like the Italian military is like one of the militaries that's really like let's talk about this like what is all this [ __ ] stuff. Like one of the militaries that are very like we're not going to cover it up if we can find something else about it. Anyway, a bunch of UFO people say that like the Vatican actually does know about like crashes that happened because if you think about it, right, if things have happened in our fairly recent history, if there have been crashes, if there have been visitations, >> why do they keep crashing?

[00:26:42]>> Institutions, >> they did interpace like travel interstellar, >> I don't know, random events, gravity, running out of fuel, >> um, [ __ ] clouds. But like anything about like longstanding organizational hierarchies that would perhaps have the capability to catalog and cover up or rather keep secret certain on certain happenings. The Catholic Church is an excellent example of a very very long-standing um organizational body. So it like logically makes sense. So yeah, maybe maybe >> it's still in the archives. The library >> they have their own [ __ ] city.

[00:27:16]Vatican City has its own police force.

[00:27:18]It has its own jurisdictions. is like they're like a perfect candidate for >> do they speak of aliens in the in the book the holy book >> or can they pivot to oh well god is all say >> depends what you think angels are um it depends like also like um there's various paintings and things like that with loads of [ __ ] going on in the sky like it's probably nothing but it could be something but like also um various senior members of the Roman Catholic Church have said that um we need to prepare for Catholicism to spread across across the universe one day. And that might be because we're talking about doing things like sort of colonizing Mars.

[00:27:56]>> Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:27:58]>> Massive vessel went.

[00:27:59]>> Science fiction has a small hand in predicting the future.

[00:28:03]>> Well, the Vatican has a time travel device, right? Or >> hat in the car. That's the bulletproof um Pope mobile.

[00:28:12]>> No, I think it's in the Vatican. It's a hat thing >> where they can sense the future. There's some I've I've read this as well.

[00:28:19]They've got some sort of like weird like device which allows them to do something.

[00:28:23]>> Was it the past? I can't remember.

[00:28:24]>> It's like I mean that sounds more nonsense than anything.

[00:28:27]>> Sounds like watched the TV show Devs and remember it.

[00:28:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really cool show.

[00:28:32]>> Very cool show.

[00:28:33]>> Really interesting idea.

[00:28:34]>> Yeah.

[00:28:35]>> And not outside the realms of possibility, it seems.

[00:28:38]>> You know, that's Devs is like a sequel to Parks and Rick, >> is it?

[00:28:41]>> Yeah.

[00:28:42]>> That's That's crazy.

[00:28:47]It's got the same actors.

[00:28:48]>> The same actors.

[00:28:49]>> It's got one of the same actors in >> a sequel. It's a direct sequel.

[00:28:52]>> I just think >> he quits his job there >> as a government employee and goes starts coding.

[00:28:56]>> Yeah. Just like Breaking Bad and Malcolm Middle in the same universe.

[00:28:59]>> Well, that's confirmed because they actually did a a alternate ending, didn't they?

[00:29:04]>> I think so. Yeah.

[00:29:05]>> He wakes up.

[00:29:07]>> Holy [ __ ] I just had a terrible dream or something.

[00:29:08]>> Have you seen any of the new Malcolm in the middle?

[00:29:10]>> I I saw the first episode. Yeah.

[00:29:12]>> Did you like it? I haven't seen it.

[00:29:13]>> God. like oh what's his I forget Reese >> just unrecognizable >> is he >> looks I mean there are elements that are recognizable of course he is the same person >> but otherwise unrecognizable uh and Jewie is no he's didn't he chose not to do it but his replacement actually is quite like him >> they replaced him >> with a different actor yeah with an adult >> they didn't just go like Dewey died or like Dewy's in space camp or something it is like later >> so it's why we just like say he's like well he's not here he's like, you know, doing some job or he's in a jungle in Bolivia being a scientist studying war.

[00:29:48]>> They probably want the dynamic, didn't they?

[00:29:50]>> They could have just said he was away.

[00:29:51]Yeah, I suppose. I mean, adults do drift through life after.

[00:29:55]>> Maybe that's what they said. Became a drifter. We don't know where he is. He smokes loads of crack now.

[00:29:59]>> Well, whoever the showrunner was and the writers, they decided to recided to put him in.

[00:30:03]>> Why did they bring it back?

[00:30:05]>> Just cuz people >> nostalgia is a huge hot thing right now.

[00:30:09]>> Came back as well.

[00:30:10]>> Yeah, >> I watched some of that as well. Maybe we're the only ones watching television anymore and they have to target us each time.

[00:30:16]>> They're trying to get back the millennials.

[00:30:17]>> They're like, "Come on, millennials. You like you actually sit down and watch things."

[00:30:20]>> Honestly, I think we're the the driving force of a lot of these.

[00:30:23]>> Yeah. We're the important we're the important generation now.

[00:30:26]>> No, we're the ones that they're, you know, the people that are also millennials thinking it's a great idea because I know all my mates would love this >> of my same demographic.

[00:30:35]>> It's interesting. You like >> I'm talking about like macro stuff though, like why specifically target our demographic and not another one? because we're the ones with that have money now >> because yeah, Gen Z's aren't maybe they are but are they going to go unless they unless it's a case of catching on to the people who've watched they've been watched so many times on Netflix and whatever they're trying oh you know what these people are still watching this regardless of whether it's a you know >> I understand this what I'm saying is like are we the only generation doing that now >> I don't know >> like much like you target older people with daytime television um yeah we're obviously friends >> I'm just surprised that we're the ones being targeted >> well Jerry Seinfeld they'll bring that back >> I I don't know. I don't I don't get it.

[00:31:11]>> I never watched it.

[00:31:12]>> I don't get any of that humor.

[00:31:13]>> I think that's more >> Yeah, I did. But I mean, >> do you think they'll bring it back?

[00:31:18]>> I don't think they will.

[00:31:19]>> One of them's dead.

[00:31:21]>> No, I mean, I don't think bring it back with the same actors. I think like reboot reboot.

[00:31:24]>> Oh, but I guess that's what they do when they make any kind of sitcom like that.

[00:31:29]They're trying already.

[00:31:31]>> They have rebooted Harry Potter already.

[00:31:32]And I've seen it online and it's all about drip. Yeah, it's all about drip.

[00:31:36]>> What do you mean drip? It's like an AI like piss take videos of >> Oh, I see.

[00:31:41]>> drip warts, >> right?

[00:31:43]>> Uh type [ __ ] They keep saying apparently that's a thing.

[00:31:46]>> Type [ __ ] >> Type [ __ ] at the end. Yeah.

[00:31:49]>> Um it's really funny.

[00:31:51]>> Like, you know, chimp styles. Simp type [ __ ] >> Yeah.

[00:31:54]>> Like it's not a new thing.

[00:31:55]>> It's not just that. It's just it's they're wearing drip and um what was it called? Uh >> Dumbled Dior because of Dior.

[00:32:04]>> Dumbled Dior. Nice. Love that.

[00:32:06]>> It's quite funny. But no. Um, yeah, I don't understand why they're bringing that back. Or they've shown the trailer of it and it's all really dreary coloring, like coloring of the Deathly Hallows, but in the first uplifting, oh, we're going to Hogwarts. It's going to be really good. Lots of fun. And it's like dreary coloring. The colorist on that needs to get [ __ ] fired like from every opportunity he ever gets.

[00:32:24]>> Well, a lot of movies have kind of gone for the more muted palette, haven't they? Other than >> Oh, [ __ ] It was it's it's I mean obviously you know it's written by a bigot horrible piece of [ __ ] but the piece should be enlightening at the beginning.

[00:32:40]>> The original film >> they redoing it.

[00:32:41]>> They did they're redoing the whole [ __ ] the whole first series is the first film, >> right? I see.

[00:32:46]>> They're doing it year on year now.

[00:32:48]Released at the end of this year.

[00:32:50]>> Not a plug. It's going to be it's already been shhat on >> because Yeah. because of they're going to say everyone's racist in it >> because everyone's suspicious of Snape all the time.

[00:33:01]>> Yeah, it's that's what like characters in the book are suspicious of I don't know what it is, but I'm suspicious of And then there's various elements in like Harry's dad.

[00:33:11]>> It's going to be this they're all going to be called racists from the outside world, but it's going to be normal in Harry Potter's world.

[00:33:16]>> Yeah. Which is going to make it kind of worse, right?

[00:33:18]>> I don't know. It is, but just >> I will not be winging into those communities or conversations. But even even though it was released in 2001, it still feels really new. The original >> Yeah, it does. Yeah, it does.

[00:33:29]>> But maybe that's just because >> once again, >> I haven't aged in my brain, >> just in my body.

[00:33:34]>> Malcolm in the Middle, Harry Potter.

[00:33:36]These are all pivotal things in our childhood.

[00:33:38]>> Teens. Yeah.

[00:33:39]>> That now we're going to like have a nostalgia for >> and people are trying to relive their youth because >> Well, I won't watch them.

[00:33:46]>> Well, fine.

[00:33:47]>> I reckon you will. I reckon you'll watch the new Harry Potter.

[00:33:49]>> I'll watch the Mal. I'll tell you that.

[00:33:52]>> I've already seen the first episode.

[00:33:54]Well, scab. It's okay.

[00:33:55]>> You're a scab.

[00:33:56]>> I'm a scam.

[00:33:56]>> You're going over the picket line.

[00:33:59]>> Okay. But I like I mean and the scrubs >> again. Scrubs is probably more realistic because they are in a job that they would have for a long time.

[00:34:08]>> Yeah.

[00:34:08]>> Yeah.

[00:34:08]>> As opposed to being a wizards just when you were a child.

[00:34:11]>> Well, no, but that that's not it's not that's not Daniel Radcliffe staying in the role, is it? He's not just an adult >> in the wizarding world. A family staying together and liking each other.

[00:34:22]>> Yeah. 20 years later.

[00:34:23]>> And the other flaw that they somebody highlighted was that they can't really change much of the looks and and the vibe of the TV show because all the [ __ ] theme parks are based on the original films. So, as a director of that, you're ballsov.

[00:34:37]You can't be creative. You can't change things much other than just getting a [ __ ] colorist.

[00:34:42]>> Why don't they just make something new that would revitalize the theme parks that will probably get quite tired?

[00:34:49]>> You think they should? It's very quite expensive to keep changing.

[00:34:52]>> The only good thing about um the LA No, California. Yeah, >> Universal.

[00:34:57]>> Universal Studios was the Harry Potter section. They put all the budget in there >> cuz it was like new as well. Brand new.

[00:35:03]>> But even then, like >> it was pretty mediocre.

[00:35:05]>> Yeah, maybe we're just the wrong audience, but I don't think I particularly enjoyed any theme parks really that I've been to. Maybe I just I don't >> Not even the German one we went to.

[00:35:14]>> That was exciting.

[00:35:15]>> So long ago. The the German one was funny because um of the situation you put us in where we went on that really high ride.

[00:35:22]>> I didn't put us in that.

[00:35:23]>> You did?

[00:35:23]>> How?

[00:35:24]>> Because I was like >> I think I could do this.

[00:35:27]>> Yeah. And I was like, "Dude, that's going to be really freaky." And then we got there. Then we got to the top and you're like, "Oh my god, we're really high up." And I'm like, "Yeah, yeah, we are." And I'm just there like, >> "Yeah, this is what I thought it'd be like." And then I was just like, "Oh, here we go."

[00:35:42]>> So why are you in it? I felt like a guy that gets sent to like Omaha Beach cuz his mate's going and he doesn't want to see him die.

[00:35:47]>> There's no gun to your head at that point. I was just like, "All right, let's [ __ ] go." You know, >> I opted not to do it.

[00:35:53]>> Yeah.

[00:35:54]>> It was main the main issue with that ride was the fact that you were basically like a saddle that was like kind of splitting your ass in two.

[00:36:00]>> It was just a force.

[00:36:01]>> So when you come straight down, oh [ __ ] >> Split machines forcing your ass.

[00:36:07]>> [ __ ] >> Like to split further in two.

[00:36:09]>> Pushed down my lower intestine out my butthole. wanted to push it back in like a balloon.

[00:36:13]>> God, >> it was really It was pretty high. Good views.

[00:36:16]>> It was It was crazy. They dropped us.

[00:36:18]But anyway, um No, I maybe team parks just aren't for me really.

[00:36:21]>> That's fair.

[00:36:22]>> Yeah.

[00:36:22]>> Alton Towers.

[00:36:23]>> Never been.

[00:36:24]>> Oh, okay. But the roller coaster. Do you like roller coasters?

[00:36:28]>> I used to.

[00:36:29]>> Not so much now.

[00:36:30]>> I think I might be tempting Fate.

[00:36:32]>> Oh, you're more on Smiler. Oh, that loads.

[00:36:35]>> Yeah, that's This is after the crash.

[00:36:38]>> Yeah. No, I I mean, maybe maybe I mean we've always said >> we should go to Alton Towers on a weekday >> because we can.

[00:36:47]>> Yeah, >> like we and I mean maybe but we can't really film much there, can we? They won't let you take >> Well, it would be us filming ourselves between rides and I think that we could do that. I don't know how much of an audience.

[00:36:57]>> Yeah, >> it's not cheap going to these things. I mean, it's probably cheaper, but still not cheap going to these things. It's like, is that a video?

[00:37:05]>> I mean, we've done see what people say.

[00:37:07]We done theme parks in America.

[00:37:09]>> We did. Yeah. We didn't do um red flag.

[00:37:12]Is it red flag?

[00:37:13]>> Red flag.

[00:37:15]>> Six Flags.

[00:37:15]>> Six Flags.

[00:37:17]>> But Six Flags.

[00:37:18]>> Red flag.

[00:37:18]>> Be a red flag cuz they're kind of crazy roller coaster. Insane. But they they do look pretty cool.

[00:37:25]But yeah, for some reason, I don't know.

[00:37:27]It just doesn't seem like it would be that appealing to watch. You're just watching a group of before and after a ride.

[00:37:32]>> Whoa. Crazy.

[00:37:33]>> Bloody hell. WA.

[00:37:34]>> The only time in crowds is when I'm fighting people like that. I think that's my reality is like the only time I feel cuz I'm just reflect I'm reflecting on it like well like LAR right when I'm in a massive crowd of like 3,000 people at Empire fighting away absolutely loving it.

[00:37:50]>> Music festival >> hate it. This is the thing like so like this is what I was just thinking about is I think the thing is I don't particularly like being around people that much unless it's very much on my own terms and like when you become like you know like I'd rather just go mountain biking than go on a roller coaster you know I'd rather go on like a really cool trail on a mountain bike that's kind of gives me the same experience of like >> that's more scary at a higher risk >> especially the one that we did.

[00:38:14]>> Yeah that was pretty crazy that memorable exciting like almost died >> scenic suddenly almost injured ourselves.

[00:38:20]>> Yeah. I mean, I fell off my bike recently and might stop mountain biking to be honest with you. Might just just do regular cycling, but um >> yeah, just I think I think just for me it's just Yeah, the idea about stuck in a queue for an hour >> to then do a three 30 seconds of a ride.

[00:38:36]>> Yeah, just kind of but also not even >> Well, that's where you pay extra for the fast track pass.

[00:38:39]>> Well, yeah, maybe that's it. Well, >> we had that Disneyland experience, didn't we, with um where they took us around in America, the Anaheim one, >> which again isn't the good one. The Florida one is the best one.

[00:38:51]But I went there when I was like in like 1999. Florida.

[00:38:54]>> So my my idea of it is very much as I was a child.

[00:38:56]>> When I was 13, 14 is when I went to Florida and they had the crash test dummy one and that was such a good ride.

[00:39:03]We wanted on it like three times. It's the one where you like drive at a wall and last second it opens up >> to an outside road. It's so good.

[00:39:12]>> And also no one was going on it so just like running through an empty queue.

[00:39:15]>> Yeah.

[00:39:16]>> Amazing.

[00:39:16]>> I did quite enjoy the ride um the Indiana Jones route we went on. Yeah, that was >> in um was more like a showcase.

[00:39:23]>> Yeah, I think I think maybe that's what I'm more like enjoy more like when you're like whoa like where all these stage things are kind of crazy, you know? Um I don't know. Maybe I like them all. Maybe I'm just trying to come up with a encapsulate sentence which I really can't do because I don't fully understand my feelings about it.

[00:39:37]>> Did we go on the rock and roller coaster or is that >> in France, wasn't it a good one in France? The Aerosmith one.

[00:39:44]>> Yeah, that was in Florida as well. And that's a [ __ ] good one.

[00:39:46]>> It was good in Florida. Yeah. Not as good in France.

[00:39:49]>> Yeah.

[00:39:50]>> Well, the French I mean the French dog [ __ ] And also the >> the hotel was like built in the 80s or something. It was awful.

[00:39:56]>> It was pretty bad.

[00:39:58]>> They had they hadn't updated it then.

[00:40:00]>> They they are overhauling >> Disneyland Par.

[00:40:03]>> They're putting millions into it.

[00:40:04]>> I thought they probably >> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:07]>> All right. Well, anyway, that's our thoughts on roller coasters and theme park.

[00:40:11]>> I don't know how we got there. What else? Anything else happened in >> Oh, um, >> well, we're going to go ghost hunting.

[00:40:16]>> RFK Jr. cut off a dead raccoon's penis on a family vacation to study later.

[00:40:22]That's to study later. A raccoon's penis. Now, I don't know.

[00:40:26]>> Sorry. What?

[00:40:27]>> So, RFK Jr., the um kind of health secretary of America, um he cut off a dead raccoon's penis whilst he was on holiday with his family to study later.

[00:40:40]>> Sorry.

[00:40:42]I don't know if he did that recently.

[00:40:43]>> How did this how did this come out?

[00:40:45]>> Says an all new book revealed private journals that detail a series of unusual and personal instance from Robert F.

[00:40:51]Kennedy Jr.'s life, including an absurd scenario involving the raccoon genitalia.

[00:40:55]>> What the hell?

[00:40:56]>> Um, >> did he study it later?

[00:40:59]>> What a weird guy. Did he study it? I don't know if there's evidence of him studying it.

[00:41:02]>> What's there to >> It's just evidence of him cutting off like an animal's a dead animal's penis.

[00:41:08]>> Yeah.

[00:41:08]>> To then kind of pop in his pocket and be like, I'll deal with that later. Like, >> were they already dead?

[00:41:12]>> Does that sound like a good thing? I think >> he's gonna be raccooning with that dick.

[00:41:19]>> And how would he do that?

[00:41:19]>> Isn't it weird?

[00:41:20]>> How would he do that?

[00:41:21]>> Just little tiny.

[00:41:22]>> How small do you think that penis is?

[00:41:23]>> Tiny wrist movements. Tiny.

[00:41:25]>> It's probably quite small, isn't it?

[00:41:25]>> Like probably like animals penis.

[00:41:27]>> Yeah, most animals.

[00:41:28]>> We went to a penis museum.

[00:41:29]>> We did the fall palace.

[00:41:30]>> Was there a raccoon one in there?

[00:41:31]>> I think there was probably.

[00:41:32]>> Yeah. Well, most of the kind of um small animals, they were like these kind of like little thin long bones with a little ball at the top, which was >> Oh, yeah. Some of them had actual bones in them as well, didn't they?

[00:41:42]>> Yeah.

[00:41:43]>> Um >> the like the mice.

[00:41:44]>> Isn't it weird? Of all the Kennedys in history, of which quite a few of them were sort of liberal like leftwingers.

[00:41:53]Not that I'm a huge fan of the great families of America. They're all kind of just, you know, semi- nobles, it seems, for a place with no kings. But like the the Kennedys, this is the one we ended up with. You know, several of the Kennedys, one was shot, one crashed in a plane. Like there's so many crazy things that happened to them. And the one that history left us with is this [ __ ] weird.

[00:42:15]>> It's the raccoon guy.

[00:42:16]>> It's the raccoon dick guy.

[00:42:18]>> It's bizarre.

[00:42:20]>> It's weird, isn't it? It's almost like an amalgamation of their dead bodies formed into one >> sort of >> robotic talking monster.

[00:42:26]>> Yeah. Like I'm Yeah. Yeah. some crack smoking weirdo.

[00:42:30]>> You know, yeah, it's it's a bizarre choice, but >> I don't know. Should we be surprised things? He looks healthy, doesn't he?

[00:42:38]>> He's very very tanned.

[00:42:40]>> Yeah.

[00:42:41]>> Also, his upper body is strangely well muscled considering his age.

[00:42:45]>> Have you ever Yeah. Have you ever watched Kirby enthusiasm?

[00:42:49]>> No.

[00:42:50]>> Oh, do you know like have you seen any any clips for you? The wife in it, >> right?

[00:42:55]>> She's married to him.

[00:42:56]>> Oh. which I find quite bizarre.

[00:42:59]>> Just you don't think she'd be into it.

[00:43:00]Weirdo.

[00:43:01]>> Being in a comedy for so long and kind of like you would think that that wouldn't be appealing as a person. The raccoon penis collecting maniac.

[00:43:13]>> Maybe she's just in it for like the clout.

[00:43:16]>> Yeah, of course. Yeah, the clout. Yeah.

[00:43:19]Well, the Kenny clout the name. I mean, it is a big deal. It's like a Vanderbilt. It's like >> it's a panty dropper.

[00:43:26]>> Yeah. You just have to get the worst one.

[00:43:27]>> I'm Robert Kennedy.

[00:43:28]>> Yeah. It's still, you know, if somebody offers you a Rolls-Royce, you're not gonna ask which model, are you?

[00:43:33]>> Yeah. You go, "Oh, I'll take it."

[00:43:34]>> Yeah.

[00:43:35]>> What's this one? Oh, they just discontinued it years ago. [ __ ] Breaks down all the time. And it costs a fortune to fix.

[00:43:40]>> And it smokes crack.

[00:43:41]>> And it smokes crack and suggests really unhealthy lifestyle choices.

[00:43:46]>> W also, you know, hates McDonald's, which is an interesting >> I hate it.

[00:43:51]>> He hates McDonald's and he thinks Tylenol gives you autism.

[00:43:55]>> Weird. weird.

[00:43:56]>> Yeah.

[00:43:57]>> But also collects genitalia.

[00:43:59]>> I've never touched the stuff. Thank you.

[00:44:00]>> Cheryl Hines. That was it. Cheryl Hines.

[00:44:02]>> I find it really strange that they always do the acronyms for the Kennedys.

[00:44:05]JFK, RFK.

[00:44:07]>> Yeah.

[00:44:08]>> Why is that a thing?

[00:44:09]>> It's a good point. I mean, maybe to distinguish between them because it's quite >> Do you know an acronym?

[00:44:14]>> Yeah.

[00:44:15]>> You don't have a middle name though.

[00:44:16]>> It's No, it's it's uh C >> CHT CHT.

[00:44:21]>> I sound like long life milk.

[00:44:23]>> CHT. Yeah.

[00:44:24]>> CHT. Cold heat treated >> calcium.

[00:44:26]>> Cold heat treated.

[00:44:28]>> My uh mine's a degenerative illness, ALS. So, uh that's cool, isn't it?

[00:44:34]>> Sounds like I'm in a rush. Rush. RSH.

[00:44:36]>> RSH.

[00:44:37]>> Got RSH.

[00:44:38]>> Does sound like no way.

[00:44:39]>> That thing's an RSH along there. That was supporting all the weight of that whole wall.

[00:44:43]>> RS RSH is sorting us all out right now.

[00:44:47]>> Without that RSH, that's building the cloud.

[00:44:49]>> This whole thing would come down.

[00:44:51]>> [ __ ] Anyway, well, I mean, I don't >> RFK is pretty cool like as as as a set of initials though, isn't it?

[00:44:58]>> That's probably why he uses it.

[00:44:59]>> And also, it kind of gives you that vibe of Kennedy's.

[00:45:02]>> Yeah, >> I think JFK probably started it.

[00:45:04]>> Yeah.

[00:45:05]>> And then capitalizing on it.

[00:45:07]>> Robert Kennedy was the one who shot as well, wasn't he? Was he shot?

[00:45:10]>> Were shot.

[00:45:11]>> I think two of them were shot.

[00:45:12]>> Why did they stop doing that?

[00:45:15]>> When do they thought actually would stop doing that now?

[00:45:18]>> Yeah.

[00:45:19]>> Good point. Anyway, um it was Bobby Kennedy they called him, wasn't it?

[00:45:22]Bobby.

[00:45:23]>> Bobby. Bobby. Robert.

[00:45:24]>> That infant. That's kind of like an infantile version.

[00:45:27]>> Trying to make him relatable.

[00:45:29]>> They're trying to make a guy that's part of a dynasty of pseudo nobles uh seem relatable to the common man, I think, is probably what they were doing. Or they just used it between each other and it bled out into the public.

[00:45:41]>> My favorite Bobby is the one from Supernatural.

[00:45:44]>> Anyway, >> Bobby, >> his was his favorite one from King of King of Hell.

[00:45:48]Bobby.

[00:45:49]>> Bobby. Bobby.

[00:45:50]>> My favorite one's Robert Baratheon.

[00:45:53]>> Bobby. They call him Bobby B online.

[00:45:55]>> Bobby B.

[00:45:56]>> Bobby V.

[00:45:57]>> Bobby B.

[00:45:58]>> Robert Baratheon. Bobby B.

[00:45:59]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:00]>> Well, um, we have to end it there cuz we have to go ghost hunting. Lis hunting.

[00:46:05]Are you scared of ghost hunting?

[00:46:06]>> I was thinking about it last night at like 3:00 a.m. when I couldn't sleep.

[00:46:10]Um, I'm glad you're worried about it.

[00:46:11]>> I wasn't. Well, I was thinking about how much I'll lean into it and how much I'll like try and summon forth the ghosts and whether or not that's a good idea.

[00:46:19]whether I should try as a joke.

[00:46:22]>> What if they follow me home?

[00:46:23]>> Well, they say we we could be changed people by the time well by next week.

[00:46:27]>> Well, we'll give you our out alive.

[00:46:29]>> We're going to do a proper ghost hunt.

[00:46:31]We got all the tools and equipment and we're going at nighttime to a allegedly very haunted place.

[00:46:36]>> Yeah.

[00:46:36]>> So, we'll let you know how that feels from three skeptics and one really scared producer.

[00:46:42]>> I want I know that Craig doesn't want to go in there. He doesn't, but I really should. I really want him to.

[00:46:47]>> I feel like that would probably be the funny part of this whole thing. We just have to turn the cameras around. We're all there like it's just good, Craig.

[00:46:52]You're getting what you want. He's just like >> I >> I'm not sure. This is really shaky shot.

[00:46:56]>> But I genuinely think that he would be he will feel it.

[00:46:59]>> Yeah, definitely.

[00:47:00]>> I think he'll the fear. I He's so excited about doing this, but then I think that he'll be >> Craig was working on his horror game.

[00:47:06]>> He was scared to do it, wasn't he? He had to turn the lights on in the Unreal Engine, like set it to daytime in the game so that he could play test his own game.

[00:47:15]>> Yeah.

[00:47:16]>> He couldn't do it at night.

[00:47:17]>> Why is he making a horror game then?

[00:47:18]>> I don't know.

[00:47:20]>> Well, cuz he understands it, I suppose.

[00:47:21]>> But not necessarily. Not to what degree to He's quite easily scared. You want something that's, you know, really going to [ __ ] get you.

[00:47:28]>> It gives him, >> you know what I mean?

[00:47:31]>> So, surely you should play it. So, it's like, uh, oh my god, this is [ __ ] freaky. And when it's when it gets the the person who's not too fussed about horror games, that's when you've got a winner.

[00:47:39]>> Let's put a chimp in it.

[00:47:40]>> But then we don't know. Maybe it is [ __ ] horrifying. And we just he's done something really [ __ ] vile.

[00:47:45]>> Maybe he's >> We just don't know. This stuff's horrible. This is really I look at you differently now.

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