Racism is defined as the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advancement of another, specifically white supremacy. This definition reveals that racism is not merely about individual prejudice but about maintaining racial hierarchies through institutional power structures. The debate demonstrates that understanding racism requires examining both the dictionary definition and the sociological context, including how racial stratification creates unequal access to power and resources. White supremacy has permeated societal institutions, creating systemic advantages for white people and disadvantages for people of color, which shapes how racism manifests and how marginalized groups experience and respond to racial dynamics.
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There's such a lag. There's such a bad lag over there. I'll say something and then 10 years later they'll pop up.
>> It's so weird.
>> I don't have the I I can't do the dual streaming like y'all do. That would stress me out.
>> It's just multiple platforms. I don't pay attention to Tik Tok as it is. You know what I mean? Now I got to pay attention to two different joints.
That's crazy.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh new new guest. I can't see your name.
>> Cross, I think.
>> Oh, >> no. It's Tessa. I just It's just a cross on my name.
>> Okay. Hi, Tessa. What's your age?
>> Uh 19.
>> Okay.
>> It's too young for me, but Ty, I think you might be able to >> Oh, okay. What do you disagree with?
Uh, and I hate to be like sitting up here with people that are an opposite race as me, but I believe black people can be racist.
Oh, >> why?
>> Well, because the definition of racism isn't just primarily about one race.
It's just >> being hateful towards any of them. It's just it's the basis. Well, I'm being like, look at the definition for it.
>> Oh, what definition >> of racism?
>> I know. From whom?
>> From the internet.
>> Oh, the internet.
>> Yeah. From a dictionary.
>> Dictionary. Which dictionary?
>> Any of them?
Oh, so when I go to like Miriam Webster and it says the systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advancement of another, specifically white supremacy, would that be in conjunction with your worldview or would that contradict what you said?
>> Okay, I want you to go on Google right now and I want you to look up racism and tell me the definition.
>> You did. You said I could use any dictionary. I gave you Mariam Webster >> and that's what it says.
>> Yes.
that it's just primarily towards black people because I don't know if you remember but >> that's not at all what I said the definition was. That's crazy.
>> Would you like me to repeat it?
>> Yeah, go ahead.
>> The systemic oppression of a racial group to the social, economic, and political advancement of another specifically white supremacy.
>> But it's not just white supremacy though. That's the thing.
>> It said specifically white supremacy.
actually was it's specified. It was specific.
>> Okay. So, and I'm not trying to pivot.
I'm just trying to make another example.
Um, uh, so like if you're like a black woman like such as yourself, right, and you see somebody >> Wait, wait, hold on. Hold on. Wait. I asked you a question though. Does that definition because you said I could use any dictionary. Does that definition contradict your analysis of racism?
>> Sure. Yeah, it does.
>> Okay. So then do you concede that your you know your definition was incorrect?
>> Uh sure I concede like a bad >> but that doesn't mean I can see my [cheering] entire statement though that that's just your argument.
>> You agreed with the dictionary definition that you asked for.
>> You pointed out one specific dictionary and I know it was >> you said I could use any. Now we're moving the goalpost. [laughter] You said I could use it. You heard it right. I can see the dictionary.
>> Now I'm Now I'm conceding to my point because I didn't know you were going to pull out the one dictionary that pointed that out.
>> Wait real quick. Dean is >> I didn't expect you to have >> Which [clears throat] Dean is this? Is this my friend Dean?
>> No.
>> Okay. All right. Just uh hang out for me. Okay.
>> All right. Go ahead, y'all.
I feel like we're moving the goalpost now cuz cuz you already conceded that your definition of racism was wrong.
So why would why would your worldview not change if you had a misunderstanding of the definition of racism from the dictionary that you said I could use?
>> Don't you run?
>> Right. Are you running?
>> Don't you run?
>> Mind you, this was off the top of my head. Like I didn't even I don't have nothing open. I just memorized that cuz y'all love dictionaries, you know.
>> Yes. Beautiful. [music] >> W telling little black girls that they're beautiful.
>> Wait, were you talking to me?
>> Yeah. Hello.
>> What did he say?
W telling little black girls that they're beautiful.
>> I don't That was me. Sorry. She He was talking to me.
>> Okay. I was so confused. I was >> That wasn't where I was going with this.
>> Why would I [laughter] What?
>> Well, I thought you were talking to I thought you were talking to me.
>> Let me break I need to break this down cuz I'm confused.
>> Hey, white woman.
[laughter] I I >> I thought you were asking me if I think that she's beautiful. I thought you were like taking that on me to like see if I was racist or something.
>> I said little black girls. That's a whole woman. What is happening now?
[laughter] >> I didn't see.
It's not that funny.
>> It is.
>> It is.
>> A [laughter] funnier cuz you're that.
>> It's way funnier.
Look. [laughter] I want to scream. This is why I hate the baiters, dude.
>> OH, >> is that the word you wanted to use? Did you have to fight back another word?
[laughter] This is why I hate debaters.
[laughter] >> I hate you debaters.
I hate you.
>> You nappyheaded debaters.
>> I hate you nip.
[laughter] >> Tik Tok personalities.
>> [laughter] >> I hate you [ __ ] content creators.
[laughter] [snorts] >> What are you looking for? What are you doing on pause?
>> I have no idea what she's doing.
>> So, are we just getting off topic or >> Tessa, you got to lock in uh so we can finish up. We got another um guest.
>> I was trying to, but y'all are sitting here laughing for like 30 minutes. You were on teacup.
>> Teacup the whole time.
>> He teacup the No, I did not.
>> Yes, you had a teacup. We couldn't hear anything.
>> Is singing a song. He doesn't know what the hell's going on. I need you to wrap up there, Tessa. Come on.
>> You weren't even wor. We got off the topic. I was trying to make another point, but >> why is this taking so long?
>> Oh my know what you're doing.
>> But you already conceded to my definition. So, okay. So, what is your other point then?
Oh, [laughter] >> well, >> okay.
>> Dang. I was going to tell her that she probably was talking on uh mute.
>> I mean, talking on Oh, she probably talking while she was on.
>> Yeah. She didn't know that we were Yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. That makes sense.
Okay, Declan. Uh, what do you want?
Oh, Athena, you meant to come up earlier. I'm I'm sorry. What What did you need, Athena? I was trying to get finished with that debate um before I before I let you up.
Uh [clears throat and cough] Declan.
>> Yeah.
>> Are you here to debate?
>> Uh somewhat.
>> Okay.
>> I just uh find it crazy how you say black people can't be racist.
You just came up to to let me know that I've upset you.
>> My point of view and the reasoning why I believe that.
>> Okay. Yeah. I just need you to explain why you disagree.
>> Cuz the same way I could be racist, you could be racist. Right or wrong? I guess wrong from your point of view. you know, there are uh Oh [ __ ] But um >> yeah, I mean I mean I'm definitely I'm definitely extremely racist, but >> Oh, >> thanks for sharing.
>> You could definitely you could definitely be racist. I mean, I've met many black people who hate white people because they're white.
>> What are some other fun facts about you?
>> Right. How tall are you? I am 61170.
>> Oh, right.
>> Yeah, I got a >> What's your social security number?
>> I don't know about that.
>> It's just the lying. The immediate lying is weird. Um, so here's the deal.
>> I'm not laring. Why would I lie? Sit on.
>> Yeah. Yeah, sure. Hey, what what I need to know um is do you do you belong in this conversation?
>> Yes. I'm I'm not open. Like I won't >> Okay. Well, let's establish a baseline.
What is race?
>> Uh, white, black, Asian. I mean, all that, everything in between.
>> Oh, okay. I think there's some confusion here. I didn't ask you to I didn't ask you to name races.
>> I need you to I need you to focus up.
Okay. You all right? [laughter] >> What is race?
>> White, black.
>> No, your answer was incorrect the first time. Okay. All you did was name races.
All right, >> pay attention over here. Where are my keys? I'll jingle my keys.
>> Uh, >> you just started naming races. I want you to tell me what race is.
>> Exactly. You just proved my point. They are racist.
>> Oh no.
>> The way you are racist is if you hate them because of the race.
>> Oh no, sport.
>> Bubba, what you do?
>> Oh, Tiger, I'm so sorry.
Oh, sport. you. Yeah, bud. You don't belong in this conversation.
>> Wait. No, no, no, no. Don't. No. I'm >> Yeah. No. That uh that uh that you poor thing.
You poor thing.
>> Oh my goodness.
>> Did you know that talking about women makes you sexist?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you acknowledge gender, you're sexist.
Yeah, >> I don't see [clears throat] gender.
>> W Jackson, >> hey, how are you guys doing?
>> I love gender blind race uh sexism. Uh [cough and laughter] >> what's up, man? You come to debate?
>> Yes, I did.
>> So, please do better than the last guest.
>> I'll try. [snorts] I'll try.
Um, so the black people can't be racist thing. Uh, to start, >> uh, you guys were talking about the Marram Webster's definition of racism.
>> Um, I was looking at the website.
>> Oh, no.
>> Um, yeah, all three definitions that they have. I I don't know what Tai I don't know what she was reading, but I don't see that. I was reading part B 1B.
>> Um, >> 1 A is talking about >> I don't see the >> So, you want to read that again?
>> Well, I wasn't reading it. I just said it for me.
>> Before we do, can I ask why?
>> Yeah, I only said the dictionary cuz she wanted a dictionary.
>> Well, because [laughter] >> Yes, >> the dictionary definition. Yes, that >> Go ahead.
>> I prefer the sociological definition.
>> The dictionary definition. All three that I'm looking at >> don't say any specific group of people.
>> Yeah. I I'm just trying to figure out why the definition is relevant to the conversation at all.
>> Well, I'll I'll tell you why. A belief that race is a fundamental determination of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superior superiority >> of a particular race. What?
>> You're just saying the definition. Yeah, I know. And >> why is the definition relevant to the conversation?
>> You didn't answer my question.
>> Because I was going to read it and then tell you why based on that.
>> I mean, you keep interrupting me, so don't >> abaded breath.
>> Okay, >> we know what the full thing says, friend. We've read the full thing that he's asking what the relevance is to a conversation about black people.
not being able to be >> because it says a belief, not a belief by only white people.
>> Oh, honey, >> what?
>> Tell me. Well, tell me why that's wrong.
>> Oh, sport.
>> Don't treat me like I'm a child. Okay, tell me why that's wrong.
>> Tiger, >> uh, so here's the deal. Uh, I'm going to ask one more time. Okay. Why is the definition relevant to the conversation?
>> Because black people can also have a belief that a race is fundamental. The definition we can also believe that let's try this. Are you saying that the definition determines how racism works?
>> I'm saying okay [clears throat] well here. Can I hear why you guys think that black people can't be racist?
>> Yeah. I just uh need an answer to the question. Are you saying that the definition determines or dictates how racism works?
>> I would say it definitely needs to be included into how it works because you it can't be if I have the definition of a car, right? Like it it's a thing with wheels that moves but and that's how it works, right?
>> That's the definition.
>> Now tell me who's allowed to drive a car?
>> Anybody.
>> Anybody's allowed. So, a three-year-old's allowed to drive a car >> above the age of 16.
>> But you said anybody. Also, it doesn't say that in the definition.
>> Also, it's depends on your state.
>> That's a law.
>> Also, it depends on your state.
>> 14.
>> Also, it depends on your country.
>> Yeah.
>> Also, it depends on your capability.
>> Yeah. Also, some countries you can't drive. It's also a man-made object that is dangerous that laws need to be put onto that.
>> Hey, Ty, do you notice what I notice?
>> I do.
>> Yeah. Is it that >> Do you notice Jackson?
>> Do you notice Jackson?
>> Enlighten me.
>> Yeah. None of what we've just discussed is in the definition.
That's because it's a car is like different because it's a man-made object and they had to put on >> racism is man-made. [laughter] Well, these are both man-made things.
>> What are you talking about?
>> Okay. I Anyway, I answered the one question. Now, can you answer my question? Why do you guys believe that black people can't be racist?
>> Because that's not how racism works.
>> Well, how does racism work? Tell me.
>> I explained it to you already. explain it again.
>> The systemic oppression or racial I'm just the sociological definition because I prefer that one. It's about upholding the uh racial hierarchy through systemically, politically, and economically quite similarly um for the purpose of upholding white supremacy.
[clears throat] >> Okay. My question is where you're seeing the right white supremacy part because I'm not seeing that in any of the Mariam Webster definitions.
>> I'm not sure why that's funny. I don't see it. And I asked >> I don't know how you died and [clears throat] you just gave me a definition.
>> The one you were supposed [laughter] to read right after the first one you read for no reason. But again, I prefaced by saying the sociological definition.
>> Oh, the sociological definition, >> right?
>> Oh man, that was funny.
>> Yeah. Hey, Jackson, are we ever going to like get a version of you that doesn't base your entire understanding of racism on the definition?
>> Well, [clears throat] here's what I think. Okay.
If if I put a group of people down because of the color of their skin and put them beneath me and think they're beneath me and treat them differently, would you say that that's racist?
depends >> on >> uh the context the overarching social structures and the function of race and society your socialization process >> I can't think of a single >> I'm not I'm not >> okay >> your socialization process historical materialism the current material conditions structural functionalism uh uh what conflicts are happening uh labor value all these things matter Okay. What's a context where putting a person down because they're black is acceptable.
>> Uh, no context.
>> So that's racist.
>> Mhm.
>> Now do it [clears throat] with a white dude.
>> Now put the context down >> for what?
>> I would argue the context is that they're black.
>> Okay. the context.
>> Now, a black person putting a white person down for >> hilarious.
>> No reason. Why is that? Why is that different?
>> Uh the surrounding context, the material condition, structural functional context is that they're white.
>> Okay. And that's racist.
>> No, >> white supremacist racism is the only paradigm of race that we've ever had.
Ever. like uh the only functional one, right? Or at least since the uh transatlantic slave trade and it's so severe and so widely socially accepted uh that it permeates everything we do.
And because black people are not white, they socialize as black people. They socialize from the position of a black person. Therefore, uh that uh that renders everything they do racially uh to a reaction to racism as opposed to the execution of racism itself.
>> Yes. Um slaves, black slaves are the only example I can think of where, you know, racist and it was white people.
Yeah.
>> I should have never said that word. God damn it. They they they >> But >> just real quick, we're going to have to establish a baseline, man. Um >> can you tell me the difference between race and ethnicity?
>> I would say race would be the color of your skin and ethnicity is where you're from.
>> That's what I said.
>> Skin.
>> Skin.
>> Oh. Oh, Ty. He came back. Yeah.
>> Oh my god.
>> I got to put a Yeah, I got to edit a clip. I got to edit a clip.
>> Oh my god. Please post it. I'm so excited.
>> I got to get access to one of you know how like folks will do those edits and they'll like uh they'll do these cuts where they have like this clip from a movie or something like that. Like one of those royalty free clips or something like that >> like the everybody slapping their head jump.
>> I want to do something like that instead of like the my five minute explainers that are just kind of like oh look at me talking softly while they while Afro beats goes on in the background. Uh cuz that dude is just too [ __ ] zany for me not to. [laughter] >> No, that was the funniest op in such a long time.
>> So funny. He came back yesterday and I want to say it was either me and Sean or me and Ari.
It was so funny. He was so [ __ ] funny.
Scan. Uh yeah. No, you you were wrong, Jackson. We got to get to the other the other ops, man.
>> Hold on. Uh >> yeah. Uh your ethnicity would be like a shared cultural uh identity uh with people from uh shared location. Uh race would be your a classification system based on the superficial physical characteristics that society deems important.
Braden, I need an age check, Brody.
>> Hello. I'm uh Braden. I'm 18 years old.
>> I can't do it now.
I can't even >> Can you hear it?
Do >> you hear that hockey?
>> That's an alarm.
>> Yes, because somebody's car multiple times a week, every week, just will randomly go off late at night. And it's so infuriating.
>> Somebody putting their keys in the bed and they rolling over on them keys.
>> They got to be. It's crazy. Hi, new guest. Can we get your age, please?
Hello, I'm 25.
>> Hi, 25. I'm Dad.
[cough] [clears throat] Fun. [laughter] >> What do you disagree with, Adam?
>> I disagree that all masculinity is toxic.
>> Oh, by the way, it's Adam and Steve, not Adam and Eve. Um, but >> that's not how that's >> Why do you think it is? Um, what's what's what's what's your argument?
Somebody hasn't read their Bible.
>> For real. The way I read it, there's a Steve. Um, [laughter] >> it's called delusion. I'm sorry.
>> No. What's What's Why do you believe that? That uh not all masculinity is toxic.
>> Yeah. Because masculinity is a positive thing by inherently.
>> Oh, but what are the positives? What are the inherent positives of masculinity?
Do tell. Pray to >> sure. Things like leadership.
>> Oh, leadership is a masculine trait.
>> What about violence?
>> Of course it is.
>> Violence can be utilized in a positive manner.
>> Can it be use utilized in a negative uh manner?
>> Almost anything can be used negatively.
>> So then it can't be inherently good.
>> In a vacuum, it's good if you have to use it to protect It's good to punch people. Oh, wait. You added a stipulation. That's not in a vacuum.
[gasps] >> Point being Point.
>> You should have thought about this before you joined.
>> Well, you brought up violence. I brought a leader.
>> Should have. You should have thought about this before you joined. But >> can you address leadership?
>> Yeah, women make excellent leaders.
[cough and clears throat] Some of the best NCOs I had in the army were women >> and they're often uh better at working like collaborative work which is extremely important if you want really anything to succeed to be able to collaborate well. They're also less of a liability to you know abuse that power in order to sexually abuse the people beneath them. You know I I would say that that makes them better leaders too that they're >> coercion.
Yeah.
>> Yeah.
The army believes that.
>> Are you saying that like could stand up to like Gi?
>> Yeah, absolutely. But uh >> are you saying that Kamla could stand up to Gi Jinping?
>> Who?
>> Kamala and Ping.
is like in a like in a boxing ring or >> this [ __ ] didn't hear me when I said yeah.
>> No, like >> No, I was I was asking the lady though.
>> Yeah, like I mean maybe not in a boxing ring, but I don't I don't think world leaders do that anymore >> on the world.
>> They should.
>> They should bring back duels for real.
>> Uh although Putin would [ __ ] >> Oh, you want women to fight men? Okay, >> true. I >> would mollywop Donald Trump. I ain't going to hold you.
>> You want to see a woman in a man in a ring?
>> Yeah, for sure.
I know women that would >> I know I know women that would that would count your teeth.
>> Your mother?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. My mother would count your >> Yeah. No, I'm not going to beat up an old lady. My mother would put you on your pockets. My mother's 73.
[cough and clears throat] She would rock your [ __ ] >> W great grand elderly.
>> Just real quick, uh uh >> I wouldn't touch the >> Just real quick, can you describe a third pivot?
>> Yeah, my mother would [ __ ] your [ __ ] up, bro. [laughter] >> Can you Can you >> Yeah, 100%. Bro, >> that's delusion. [laughter] My my mom would cook your [ __ ] bro.
>> Oh, [laughter] did you leave or did you kick him?
>> I I got rid of him. He was using >> Okay.
>> Hi, Tissue. Can we get your age, please?
>> Hi. Hello.
>> Hi. Can we get your age, please?
>> Can you hear me?
>> Yes. You have bars, though.
You got to get better service or [snorts] better Wi-Fi.
Can you hear me?
Hello. [laughter] [snorts] A whole bunch.
>> You can't hear us. That's the problem.
>> Can you hear me? [laughter] >> Am I being heard?
>> That reminds me of >> Can you hear me?
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ajax, we can hear you.
All right. What's up, >> Jesus? You're gonna have to turn it down. I'll just get rid of >> Turn. All right. No. No. Well, all right. Listen. You have a microphone. I have a microphone.
>> Okay. Well, just turn it down. It's too loud. It's abrasive.
>> Can you hear me?
>> I don't know how to do that.
>> I don't know how to I don't know how to do that.
>> Oh, well, it's too bad.
Someone said that was the alt account for someone who stred earlier.
>> Oh, is it?
>> I'm not sure, but that's what someone in the comments said.
>> You could throw your microphone away.
[laughter and snorts] >> Petty, stop trying to make fetch happen.
All right.
>> Oh, it happened.
>> Fetch happened and I missed it.
>> I say it all the time.
>> That is so fetch.
>> Yeah.
>> Turn your voice. Turn your voice down.
>> Hey, uh shout out to y'all over there on on YouTube. Uh y'all are [ __ ] rocking. Uh you you don't have to hang out over there, but you are anyway, and I think that's awesome. Uh W y'all, let me give out some shout outs to Ruger over there. [screaming] C is over there hanging out. Winston's hanging out. Hold on. [cheering] Yeah. Yeah.
For the bullet. I guess I need to bring that song back. For the for the for the >> Is this better?
>> Yeah, that's fine.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay.
>> How old are you?
>> I'm uh 24.
>> Okay. And what do you disagree with? 24.
>> [snorts] >> All masculinity is toxic.
>> Okay. What's your argument?
>> Well, what is the argument saying that all femininity is positive?
>> That's not the claim.
>> So, what is what are we talking about here?
>> We're talking about masculinity clearly, right? That's you just read it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
So there's no So raising a son with high moral values and a Christian mindset isn't a good masculine trait to have.
>> Oh god. Okay. Diving right into it.
Okay.
>> Come on. [clears throat] Come on. Have some standards for yourself.
>> Indoctrinating the [ __ ] out of my kids.
That's toxic.
>> Have some standards.
>> All I'm doing is indoctrinating them into a religion [laughter] >> where on multiple occasions.
>> Of course not. their decision commands the graing of women's and the uni.
>> Hey, Linda Jay, what's going on? Linda J.
>> But listen, he definitely said this.
Okay. A burning bush told me so. Um, so that was definitely >> You guys are so hateful. Why are you so hateful?
>> Why? How is that hateful? I just said all the things that were in the Bible.
>> No, but you're mocking my religion.
>> Yeah, dummy that. Yeah, >> that you don't have what if I told you I was >> Just real quick, we don't have to hate your religion to mock it. We can just think it's silly. That doesn't mean we're hateful. Also, I'm not biting, right? Uh it's not my job to defend myself or my moral character. I could be a complete [ __ ] and still be right about the topic.
>> What I need you to do >> is prove me wrong.
>> Thanks. I will no I will prove you wrong but I want to ask you to preface that.
Where would you be if you said that to my face behind like not behind the camera >> looking looking down at you?
>> Is that Yeah. Is that a Christian making a threat?
>> Was that a threat?
>> It's not very Christian.
>> What happened to those strong masculine morals?
>> I don't know what you're talking about.
[laughter] >> Clearly >> love your neighbor as yourself. Do you hurt yourself too? Is that right? Strong masculine boys.
>> Strong.
>> Hey [clears throat] yo, these >> boys.
>> You're fat. You're a fat guy, bro. Fat.
Fatty. Fatty. Fat ass.
>> Oh, wait.
>> Why are you so fat?
>> Cuz our food is seasoned.
>> Yo, buddy said. Buddy said Buddy. Like, yo, they can't go five minutes without being [ __ ] gross.
It's like it's a compulsion at this [ __ ] point.
>> You're fat. You're a fat.
>> You [ __ ] asked about strong masculine boys, you [ __ ] weirdo.
>> Don't you want like a really strong big thick giant?
>> Listen, you're a [laughter] fat ass.
>> Want a man that's like strong and thick with a giant Peter and like just like holds you down and tells you that you're >> never said that. I said >> whispers in your ear and like caresses you and let you know that fat makes you feel safe.
>> Brody broy [laughter] fat. You are fat.
That is the best you can do, bud. Like uh >> you obese warrant.
>> Yes. Yes. I'm I'm very fat, bro.
>> Um I'm still sexy, right? Also, >> period.
>> You're bad at this. You know what I mean?
My fat ass rode me all the way to 25k, by the way. [screaming] I thought he was farting.
>> Yeah, he was.
>> He [cheering] was definitely farting.
>> He's married.
>> He said, "You so fat."
>> Literally solid.
>> Strong masculine boy. [laughter] >> I just know that you give great hugs.
Like I just [laughter] >> good hugging [ __ ] Y'all you're a good hugging piece of [ __ ] [laughter] >> Good hugging piece of [ __ ] [laughter] >> That dude came back. Yo, he was like, "Yeah, you are a communist piece of shit." [laughter] >> I just don't I just don't love you. Love ice cream and pickles.
>> What? What? What are you talking about?
What are you doing? There's a there's a clip on uh on the clock app where this guy was talking about how someone was mildly overweight. He goes, "I know you just love ice cream and pickles."
They got a good idea. I just know you love I know you love gumdrops and donuts.
>> What?
>> That's what Ty reminded me of when she said, "I just know you give good hugs."
>> I love you, dear. I'm going to let you down.
>> Okay. I just know that I'm a masculine that I'm a masculine.
>> You want to be a debater like your old man?
>> I do. Every time I hear like the masculinity is toxic toxic >> come up.
>> Um and they just name characteristics that portray a person and not actual characteristics of being a masculine man. It just makes me so it makes me giggle a little bit. I just >> I need to be masculine man.
>> I need to be a masculine man. And I am a masculine Christian beliefs. They need to be Christians and I indoctrinate my children.
>> Amen. The way God intended.
>> The way God wanted >> the way God put for put me on this earth to do and gave my mother a pregnant belly with me just so I can indoctrinate.
>> What is happening?
>> Just so I can tell my kids that they need to be Christians. They can't be boys. They can't be girls. They need to be Christians. Gosh.
>> Amen. Amen.
>> I like her. Santa Cristo.
Okay. I love you, sweetheart.
>> I love you.
>> Love you.
>> That's so cute.
>> Silly. Silly.
They're a little silly Billy.
>> She's got She's got a pretty good Mr. Thomas voice potential.
>> Listen, the way I could put them around like just the greatest t like just tick tock juggernauts, you know what I'm saying? and just hone their skills, >> they're gonna be unstoppable.
>> Yeah, just be [ __ ] elite.
>> Uh, Neolade, >> hi.
>> What? What's up? Are you here to debate?
[cough and clears throat] >> Yeah. Um, you think socialism is better than capitalism?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> A red coat. Hey.
>> Oh, yeah.
Love my red coat.
>> It's kind of >> room where it happens >> when it's odd when people who have like universal healthcare come to tell Americans how awful it is. [laughter] >> You guys don't understand. They [ __ ] They [ __ ] gave me surgery and I didn't go into debt. The [ __ ] [ __ ] Those >> dare.
>> How dare they? I kept I went to the office and begged them to take $10,000 from my pocket for going in an in the ambulance and they didn't they didn't take it >> and I had a really long wait time.
>> Ever been ever been to an American emergency room? You want to talk about wait times?
>> No, literally.
>> You better clear your schedule. Um, okay, Neolade, let's talk about it. I think that socialism uh [clears throat and cough] endows the working class with a better ability to protect themselves from exploitation.
I think that capitalism is doodoo.
>> Okay. Um I mean if if the people are owning things like that may cause problems cuz not every person is good and functional.
How did we get to eugenics that fast?
That was wild. That was that was break neck speeds. What? What?
>> That's not eugenics.
>> You said not every person is good and functional.
>> Yeah, that's not eugenics.
About [clears throat] people's character, not like not the genetics or >> Okay. So, you believe that? So then [clears throat] you believe that people's character is like devolved because of environmental factors >> like socioeconomic problems.
>> Oh, so then so then it's the fault of the the economic system and the social system that they're in, not any inherent quality.
>> Um yeah, I would say that. Um also maybe like bad parenting that capitalism.
Yeah, not just conceded, >> but also um bad parenting could cause you to be nonfunctional.
>> It's not good the social economic position they're in.
>> Okay, let me [clears throat] just real quick, are there bad parents under capitalism >> in all forms of systems? Yeah. Okay. So then, and I mean this as respectfully as possibly uh as possible, who who gives a [ __ ] >> And also if they have >> Hello.
If they have someone who isn't functioning and they're owning like things like means of production, that could cause problems because some now someone who is non-functioning is owning let's say um construction business whatever >> or like Twitter.
>> I [laughter] don't agree with Elon Mus owning >> or running the country. I don't agree with I don't I don't agree with the capitalists, but I agree with capitalism. [laughter] >> So, I I'm just confused uh as to how capitalism is better at uh accounting for uh social devian.
um when the people who they're owning uh means of production uh like they're not going to it's usually passed down like within the family.
So I would say that it's it's more reliable. However, current I don't agree with the capitalists. I disagree I I I agree with capitalism but not the capitalists because they're currently corrupt. But if they were replaced with people who were not corrupt, that would be better and I would that there would be less exploitation.
>> Okay. Uh my homie >> So she just did a I love the sin hate the sinner type [ __ ] What do you >> I'm not talking about I'm not I'm not talking about religion.
>> Also she didn't answer the question at all.
>> Not at all.
Okay. I thought I did.
Capitalism is an inherently exploitative system that requires exploitation of certain people and the ways that we've determined who to disenfranchise has always been rooted in bigotry. That is the root of capitalism.
>> Hate the play.
>> Yeah, it's it's rooted in bigotry because the the capitalists are like, you know, >> but you can't have capitalism without capitalists, bestie.
>> Yeah. So, let's replace the capitalists.
I understand that. That's why I said I disagree with capitalist, not the capitalism.
>> But if we replace the capitalist, but keep the capitalism, the capitalist is going to come back.
>> Yeah. Then they'll just be new capitalists. What do you mean?
>> Yeah. Who are not corrupt and not exploiting people.
>> They're all going to be corrupt people.
>> Yeah. You don't know necessity for the system to function.
>> We do. It's not necessary >> because profit is the motivation for production and it's the motivation for owning >> under.
>> Yeah. That's the motivation of my business. Am I exploiting people? No.
>> Yeah. Like literally every time you do business, >> people are buying my shoes. They love them. Don't see the problem.
>> Yeah. People are buying your shoes. Uh you don't pay your workers as much as they generate. uh you keep the extra profit and they >> actually I own this business with my friends and we literally split it 50/50 and it earns me a lot of money. Also I my family my family own a mental health >> So you're in a workers co-op.
>> My family own the means of production. What?
>> Huh? No. Yeah, we workers own the means of production.
>> Yeah. If you own a business with your friends and you're splitting the profit 50/50 >> doesn't get it. [laughter] >> Yeah. You're not exploiting people. I would say where where am I?
>> Yeah. Cuz you're doing socialism.
>> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. But if the capitalists were non-corrupt, yes, they will be profiting and getting a lot of the money, but they're not exploiting people because people are still earning and getting a living from from things that they do for work.
>> Yeah, but their surplus labor is still being stolen.
>> It's not stolen. That is the contract signed.
>> Wage theft is the number one theft in the world. [clears throat] >> It it's it's not the number one theft.
If you're working theft in the world, >> if you're working for McDonald's, you're getting paid.
>> It's It's literally the largest theft in the world.
>> It's not theft. You sign a contract.
>> Wage theft.
>> Consensual.
>> Well, it's not consensual cuz again, capitalism is inherently coercive. It requires you to work in order to live.
That's not consensual. Okay, let me bring it.
>> Leaving many people to just get any job they can just so they can afford food or a roof over their head. Otherwise, they die. That's not consent.
>> A food or roof over your head doesn't come from nowhere. People have to work to build capitalism. That's under capitalism. That's the whole point.
That's why you'reive and exploitative. Yes. It demands your labor that is being underpaid, right? in order for them to make more money. And they're holding your literal necessary resources over your head.
>> Oh [ __ ] >> Oh shitaki mushrooms.
>> It's currently exploitation.
>> Okay. If you don't work, do you can you afford food?
>> If you work If you don't work, >> if you don't work, then depending depending on your sit depending on your situation.
then usually no but if you are earning >> so then you have to work to eat >> oh buddy >> if you have like personal independ personal >> that's what we're talking about adults people who have to take care of themselves I'm not talking about the babies >> the government does take care of some people who can't provide >> your government does and then you're coming to us to complain about it [laughter] >> I thought they earn PIP in the in the USA as well >> what's PIP Yeah. What's P I P P I P C H E E R I O.
>> Um, it's personal independence payment.
Um, I I'm not I don't know too much about it.
>> It's it's when someone >> So, if you get two pips and some cereal next to each other, right?
>> Someone can't provide for themselves, so the government gives them enough money to live.
So like I guess our equivalent would be like food stamps or or um or cash assistance.
>> Yeah. So the government does give assistance to those who need it.
>> No, not to those who need it. Only to some people who need it.
>> Okay.
>> Barely as much as they actually need.
>> Enough to live is it's barely.
>> It's not right. They I think they should care a little bit more about >> but enough to live is not the same as what they need.
>> It's >> because you can be living and hungry most of the time. Like I guess you're you know alive but you still need more food to function.
>> Okay.
If let them eat cake. I don't know what you're doing right now at your company right and you worked for eight hour. Come on, son of a biscuit.
>> If you make even like a dollar over what the government claims is poverty, they won't give you anything any help.
>> Did you know that? Did you know that?
That especially when it comes to like people with disabilities in the United States that if they dare to get married, then they could lose their benefits. If they dare to have equipment that is really expensive and necessary for their survival, then it counts as like, "Oh, you're rich cuz this costs a lot of money, so we're not going to pay you cuz you have a really expensive car for your wheelchair or you have a really expensive wheelchair, so you're not poor."
>> Yeah, I've I've heard this from others.
I I don't agree with that. I think they should get what they need. But when it comes to the topic of conversation, socialism.
>> Okay, real quick.
>> So, >> real quick, I'm so sorry. I want to I just want to examine do a little bit of labor theory here.
[cough and clears throat] You work eight hours a day, right?
And you've decided that uh your your agreement with your employers that you make $14 an hour. You know what? Let's let's meaty this thing up. Okay.
You make 30 smackaroos an hour, right?
Uh by the end of the day, how much did you did you gen did you make?
>> Oh, eight eight hours. Um so you work 8 hours a day and you earn 30 30 pounds an hour. 8 time 30 £140, right?
>> Okay.
>> Already done the math.
>> What happens on a day that you generate $600?
That's good for you. You've gotten a bonus.
>> You've gotten a bonus. No, you don't.
>> So, if you >> you only get paid $30 an hour, but for the company, you've generated $600.
>> Oh, okay. So, then the rest of the money, which is about 600 minus 240, which would be is 360, then they'll get the money. um the owners of the business will get majority of the profit.
>> Yeah.
But it's your work that generated this $600.
>> The whole point is that this work is not something that you're supposed to be doing for the rest of your life.
>> Oh, >> you're I I think you're missing the point here.
>> Always going to have to do the work.
Correct. There's always going to have to be someone in that position for that company to function.
>> Yeah. However, like when it comes to like let's say McDonald's, like you're supposed to be like well the the whole point is that you're supposed to be rising up the ranks to be promoted.
>> I [clears throat] I just want to want to refocus here >> because you generated uh $600.
That was your work that made that $600.
>> Okay. the people at the top, the people who are >> Uhhuh.
>> they will get more of the money, but you're supposed to be like trying to be promoted to the position where you are.
>> Why do they get the bulk of the Why do they get the pro all the profit? Why?
>> Why do they get all of the profit?
Because they're at a position where they're probably doing more work and they're in a higher position.
>> What work are they doing? They hired you. You did >> admin hiring. Do you know how difficult it is to be a manager?
>> HR hires people.
>> What do you mean? HR hires people.
>> Human resources hires people.
>> Human resources recruiting.
>> Not the owner.
>> Yeah, I know. But it's usually by promotion.
>> By promotion. What are you talking about? in a workplace is like when so there's the the person who's flipping the burgers and then there's the manager is >> okay let's refocus again because you're off track again the owner does not hire people HR hires people so that's not work that they did >> HR still does work >> well I'm I'm trying to figure out what the disconnect Listen [sighs] [gasps] >> okay >> there's different positions in the workplace in different positions earn different amounts of money.
>> If Johnny Hold on, give me a second.
What the [ __ ] is going on with my [ __ ] pad here?
All right.
>> Like the manager will be earning like more of the money than the burgers.
>> Has five apples.
Oh, what's this?
>> Nothing. I'm just I'm irritated. Um, >> see, if women were doing this, they'd call it a pyramid scheme, but men are doing it, so it's capitalism, >> right?
>> Men have done pyramid schemes like >> Let's try this again.
>> Oh my god, she's not tracking.
>> The owner, you said the owner gets all the profit because they did more work.
>> I asked you what. You said like hiring people. I said the owner doesn't hire people. like okay there's the owners there's the managers there's HR different positions are going to earn different salary >> HR doesn't get the profit they generate profit by adding workers >> yeah that that's their job though >> they generate income by adding workers >> that's their job that's [clears throat] >> managers don't get the profit they generate profit by uh by increasing output >> they get paid in return the high of salary than the workers.
>> But it's not profit.
>> That's how >> Oh, that's the problem. You don't You don't understand what profit is. Okay.
Okay. Okay. Okay.
>> I I do understand what profit is. Like I I know what it is.
>> Reg.
>> You want me to tell you?
>> Yes.
It is financial gain from a business workers and like costs things like expenses.
>> Gang, I had high hopes.
>> I just told you a definition and you're upset.
Like this is how a business works. Why is this bad? It's not bad.
>> Well, then thank you for demonstrating cultural hegemony.
[cough and clears throat] It's >> culture cultural hegemony. [snorts] >> I don't want to get derailed though. All right. So >> this is profit. Income minus cost equals profit. Right? In order to make this number higher, you either have to make this number higher or you have to make this number lower.
You understand?
Wages for your workers are a cost.
You understand?
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, every time uh an owner pays HR, a manager, a floor worker, that's a cost. Their incentive to keep these costs low, these wages low is really high because they want to keep profit.
What the actual fiddle fatt [ __ ] is happening?
>> Okay. because they want to keep profit high.
You understand?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I know how a business works.
>> Okay. All right. So, when they do work and they generate a lot of money, they don't get paid the full value of what they worked for. to talk about that PIP that she she was talking about and and that that that's not like if you don't make enough money that's literally just disability in the UK.
Yeah. Yeah. That was was a little painful.
It was a little painful. That hurt a little bit. That hurt a little bit. Uh, two jelly barrow jelly barrow >> close to gel ibero.
>> It's a It's a Polish name. So >> ta libero >> more like foyer which is it's hard it will be hard for you to pronounce.
>> Can you say it for me?
>> Libero foyer libero.
Yeah, it's like your libero like a position in volleyball.
Judita, you know that you know that joint? I only know that joint cuz of uh Looney Tunes.
Okay. All right. Uh what do you are you here to debate?
>> Uh yeah, kind of. I'm here to debate as the more polite I can. I'm so sorry for my English. It's not my first language.
It's my third. So, sorry.
>> Do a good job.
>> Perfect.
>> What do you disagree with, Rand?
>> Um, I'm kind of cuz I'm studying like internal security with international relations and I work with minorities in my country >> and I kind of don't believe >> minorities. Yeah. Yeah. So basically we have like a program that um college uh students go from different countries to our country to learn basically. Um so we have people from Jamaica, from Yemen, from uh from different country of Europe, from America sometimes.
>> I'm frozen over there on on the yubity dubity.
Y'all, I I wouldn't have the slightest idea how to fix it. Oh, I know. I do know how to fix it. Don't worry y'all.
I'm on my way.
Okay, go check now. Okay, I'm I'm listening.
Um, so I kind of want to debate on your statement that black people can be racist. I'm not saying that as as that is really bad because what I see like I'm working with minorities and different things. I do believe that black people can be racist.
Don't get me Don't get me. I'm not talking or anything. I just want to like make statements.
>> No abbleism in the chat, please.
>> Um, what do you mean by black people are you've like seen them be racist? What does that mean?
>> What do you mean you people?
>> No, like the state No, like uh the statement is like black people can't be racist. And I do believe that black people can be racist, >> right? like every single person >> like based on okay so for example the like the definition of racism is actually the belief it's the ideology that like one racial or ethnic group is superior to another and it's not the definition that um I don't know that uh only like uh black group of people are um are inferior or superior It's just a single racial group can be superior and inferior. And um what I'm seeing sometimes uh that also for example like for let's say um a a black there's a white and and a black person the black person say like racial slurs to white person. How would you call it?
>> There are no racial slurs for white people.
>> Not until my book gets published.
[laughter] And why do you think there's no white slurs?
>> Cuz there aren't. What are they?
>> For a slave, didn't that came from po uh came from black white people? Sorry.
Came from white people. And >> slave is a slur against white people.
>> No, I'm saying that at first it was a slur that later was uh turned uh pretty bad because >> what? Because slave was is a word from word Slav >> comes from Slavic.
>> Slav is the literal name of the people, is it not?
>> Yes. Slavic.
>> Slave was was meant to describe the paradigm uh that they were in when they enslaved Slavic people.
>> Yes, >> that wouldn't be a slur. A slur would be a projorative uh for the uh sociological purpose of dehumanization and maintenance of oppression.
>> Yeah. But also like uh um the racism as an act not only can be like a slurs, can be act of violences, can be uh some kind of uh political attack. There's a lot of things that you can call um you can call a racism.
>> For example, >> from the position of a marginalized person, uh those acts can only ever be reactions to racism or a breaking of the status quo for marginalized racial groups. Uh so, no, they wouldn't be racism. That's the most succinct way I can I can put it for you.
>> Yeah, I understand. Maybe it's it comes from the from the uh from the like the perspective that I live in Europe my whole life, right? And there's like a different type culture here and different type of like >> it's not that >> I kind of offended when y'all say this.
I I have a Dutch father. Okay. Do you know do do you know who beat is? It's like y'all all forget the the second y'all say that.
Remember, what's his story?
>> Schwartzipe.
>> What's for Pete's story?
>> Maybe I don't in English don't know the surname. Probably in Polish I would understand.
>> St. Pete >> or No, no, Pete.
>> Black Pete.
>> Black Pete. That's what it was. Yeah, Black Pete. I was thinking of St. Nicholas. Sorry. Black Pete. Yeah, >> Black Pete. I would have to Google that because um it's a it's like a Dutch and German.
>> Um helper.
>> Yes, he was he was Santa He was Santa Claus's helper, >> right? And the way that Europeans would often celebrate Christmas is with like parades in blackface dressed up as black Pete.
>> Yeah. But it's different part of Europe.
>> It's I mean I cannot say like >> you said Europe. You didn't say a specific but you said in >> Okay. So I can say let's say Middle Eastern Europe. Let's say Poland, Germany. I'm not talking about Germany.
How many do you know how many now? How many uh different [laughter] minorities now? Even in Bland, >> Germany.
>> Yeah. Look how many minorities. [snorts] >> What an example. [laughter] >> Look how many% of minorities lives in Berlin. There's much more minorities than actual German people.
>> I got you. I got you. They trying to [laughter] They trying to They Look, I got to rescue the audience cuz this [laughter] >> Germany.
>> Ain't no racism in Germany.
>> I'm not talking about like history because history and my country >> within our contemporary society.
>> What do you mean?
>> So I'm talking about now, >> right? within our contemporary which means now like where we're living now the time period we're in now you're saying they they like got rid of racism in Germany >> no not not get rid of it I'm not saying that racism do not exist I'm saying that racism exists to whole whole minorities not only um I I mean you can be racist to an Asian person you can be >> of course >> you can be racist black people but Yes.
Yes. Nobody's saying only black people experience racism. That's not what we said.
>> I'm not saying yes. Your experience is way worse than any other like >> I'm not even saying I'm not even trying to quantify it. I'm just we're just objectively not saying other races can't experience racism.
>> Of course. I'm not I'm not saying that that does not exist. I'm saying that you can that from the definition you can be racist to actually not only a group like and a racial group you can also be racist to ethnic group. So means that if you attack as um other as as white person, Asian person, black person, some kind of other ethnic group, you also called racist. The only reason that like I I'd argue the only reason that that some definitions include ethnicity is because some people use race and ethnicity interchangeably colloquially like saying African-Amean and black that is one an ethnicity and the other a race but they are often used interchangeably not necessarily that ethnicity ethnic like any ethnic group can experience racism but more so referring to how we colloquially use ethnicity to describe people's races and cuz people are not very smart and don't know what words mean.
>> Wait, cuz now uh I got a little um because I didn't understand uh first words. So you're telling me that uh basically I just want to like keep my thoughts up. So you're saying me you can be racist to any group but you cannot be racist to um to like one typical group. I don't get it.
>> No. No. Okay. So what I'm saying is that the reason that some definitions cuz definitions are more so uh descriptive not prescriptive meaning that they'll draw from the colloquial colloquial usage and people will often use ethnicity and race interchangeably.
sometimes incorrectly, but still interchangeably nonetheless. Like for example, saying Africanamean in place of black, which they of people often use those two things interchangeably, but not all black people are African-Amean.
>> Yeah, that's true. You can >> you can you can be different races and share um an ethnicity with someone or you could be different ethnicities and share a race. That's why we don't necessarily use them >> to mean the same exact thing because they do have distinctions.
>> Yeah. Okay. I understand that. Uh now, thank you. But still, I'm on the I'm on the topic that from like the definitions that we learned and from like my perspective of the world, not in America. I was never in America. I'm not going to say anything about that country. But from the point of view that I was in, um I don't see people from different like ethnics groups, from different nationalities being uh that that attacked as in America. That's why I think it's like a big topic in your country than in different countries. I think that's just because of I don't know people maybe the internet because I never like saw on my like eyes that um any other person was actually attacking with slurs over anything in my country besides um anything anyone.
>> What's your country again?
>> I'm from Poland. So yeah and we are said to be like really racist country but it's not true. Oh, >> just nuh-uh.
>> What? Nuh-uh.
>> Like people say you're racist and you just say nuh-uh.
>> Cuz people call us racist because of like politics. Cuz we don't bring illegal immigrants to the country. We just bring like legal immigrants.
>> Media xenophobia. Damn.
>> What is that?
>> Xenophobia. The discrimination against people from >> No, no, no, no. There's a lot of tons tons of different like we have a lot of tons of different people from different countries lives but we do not legal people if you pay taxes be legal that's not a thing >> uh do you know what going on in the border she's I don't know we pivoted the xenophobia somehow >> no because she said that >> all right [clears throat] well let's center this okay um can you tell us what race is >> what again?
>> Can you tell us what race is?
>> What a race.
>> What race is?
>> Ah, what a race is. Okay. So, the race is basically um I would say a categor like a category of a human based on like physical biology I would say.
I don't know how to define that better in English.
>> No. Uh what you look like?
>> Well, it's a it's basically a physical traits. I don't know what you're going with.
>> It's a categorization based on what you look like. Yeah.
>> Um Okay. What does that have to do with what country you're from?
Sometimes it works. I mean, if you're um if your physical traits are, for example, blue eyes, you're white, and have white hair, you're probably coming from more of West Eastern countries.
>> Wow.
When you say eastern, what do you mean?
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>> That's so real. Yeah.
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>> Hi.
>> How's it going?
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Yeah.
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>> Yeah, like your screen is black.
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>> Hello.
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Mhm.
>> Interesting.
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>> Why?
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>> Me?
>> Will you get in trouble if you say that?
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>> How are you doing?
>> I'm doing well.
So, I have a question about number three.
>> Uhhuh.
>> How do you think black people can't be racist? Like, what's your support that [clears throat] claim?
>> Huh?
>> Like, what's your support to that claim?
>> Yeah, basically a racial hierarchy is in place.
>> So, you think if a black person was to say, "Oh, I hate all white people, there's no racism behind that?"
>> No, I think that would be a reaction to racism.
So context is different.
>> But if a white person was to say, "I hate all black people." Is that racist to you?
>> Yep.
>> It's the same thing.
>> Uh same action, different context. Yeah.
>> How was the context different?
>> Yeah. Yeah. You don't agree that there are macrolevel disparities across racial lines?
>> Wait, can you repeat that? I didn't hear you. you don't agree that there are macrolevel disparities across racial lines.
>> Can you elaborate on that?
>> Yeah, man. Uh racial stratification is a um is one of the ways that society organizes u its people, its groups, right? Mhm.
>> Um and so in racial stratification, what you do is you organize people uh racial groups uh into a hierarchy. You put one group at the top, uh all other groups down low, right? Um, and then that's enforced and it's evident by looking at the racial wealth gap or the maternal mortality rate across races or educational gaps, um, uh, housing gaps, things like that. Um, the reason why I make this claim as confidently as I do is because the white white supremacy has permeated everything that we do. It's in every institution that we have. Um, and because of that, the way you learn to um interact with the rest of society is from the spot of a black person, from the position of a black person, right?
Uh, and for that reason, you are experiencing racism, right? You are learning about the world while suffering racism. So when you when you learn about race, when you learn about the meaning of race, when you learn about how to interact with race, um you're learning about it from an oppressed position. Um >> that's not always true for everybody though. You can't say that.
>> Absolutely I can.
>> Do you All right. So do you hate white people?
>> If Bron Braun No, [clears throat] I hate white NZ.
>> But if Bron Bra let's imagine Braun, right? Bron Brown wakes up in the morning, goes outside or he goes downstairs, he eats like a $500 cereal or some [ __ ] right?
>> Okay.
>> Right.
>> Um, you know, he plays the PS5 for a little bit and then he goes outside and he sees a [ __ ] written on his dad's car, >> right?
What he's learning is that his position uh as as far as deviance, his is his his perception about his status, his racial status in America is seen as inferior.
Even though uh >> that's not what even though financially uh he's he's in a better position, >> but that's not what the word. Okay. So, what if a white person was to walk outside, same thing, and they had a slur written on theirs? How is it any different?
for white people.
>> Cracker.
>> Yeah, that's not a slur for white people.
>> Okay. Well, then they can say the same thing about the N word.
>> No, >> cuz it means royalty. So, it's not a slur. They think it's crazy.
>> You're talking about [ __ ] [ __ ] means royalty.
>> Where you think that? Where do you think the N word deviated from?
>> Sure, they could take it from that, but uh the usage of it, >> the usage and standardization of it >> is dehumanizing. Yes.
>> Then you could say the same thing. But you you got to think black people made cracker as a slur because of they we didn't have one. And you got to think when they what you didn't make >> didn't make the word cracker. White people did, >> but they made it to a slur. They didn't make the word itself, but they're using it as >> it's a classist.
>> They're using it as one.
>> It's a classist insult. It means poor.
They're just calling them brokies.
>> Okay. So, do you think black people just can't be racist to white people? Because they're viewed >> can't be racist, period.
>> So, >> nor can Asian people, nor can Pacific Islanders, >> any minority ever can't be racist.
>> Uh, no. No. Uh, marginalized racial group can be racist. No.
Hold up.
>> Kind of breaks my heart whenever black people really want black folks to be racist.
They're just like, "Come on, man. Let us be racist." Just kind >> Well, it's racist saying that black people can't be racist >> because how are white people able to be racist? And they say, "No, no, let me let me finish. Let me finish something.
It is not racist. It's analytical.
[snorts] >> It's not There's no statistics behind what you're saying. You're just saying stuff.
>> Really?
>> There's Well, show me the social hierarchy. That's [ __ ] >> It's too easy. White people make up only 57% of the population in America, but they make up 71% of the House of Representatives, 74% of the the Senate.
>> Uh they make up 98% of all agricultural land owners and their principal producers on that land. They make up 82% of all employer.
>> So, you're telling me that a black person can't run for to be in the House of Representatives?
>> Uh, no. That's not what I'm telling you.
>> But then why are you bringing up that statist statistic because they have the same opportunity >> to demonstrate that the white racial >> But they have the same opportunity >> to demonstrate that the white racial group has greater proximity to power >> but they also have more population.
>> Yes. But their proximity to power is disproportionate.
But I mean, I just don't think that makes sense because everybody has the same opportunity.
>> It's not my fault that you're bad at numbers. I don't What the [ __ ] does opportunity do uh when the amount of barriers in front of you uh decreases the >> What do you have to say about DEI? You know what that is?
>> Opportunity.
>> Yes. DEI is Yes.
>> So, what do you have to say about that?
>> Okay. Oh, cool guy, huh?
>> Yeah. W E I A.
>> Okay. Okay. So, what do you have to say about that? That gives black people a better chance. No. So, how is it unfair with that?
>> No, it writes the ship.
>> Huh?
>> It writes the ship.
>> Yo, >> correcting. I'm not reading a script.
>> Hey, hey, hey, focus.
>> Yo, who is this guy, bro?
>> Focus.
>> Big tub of lord.
>> Okay. Yeah, you're crashing out.
>> [clears throat] >> Don't chimp out, bro.
>> Chimp out.
>> Yeah.
>> Funny guy.
>> Okay. So, what do you have to say about that? WDA.
>> Yeah, that's what I have to say about it. WDA.
>> So, can you I don't get So, even though black people have that, you're saying it's unfair.
>> Uh, unfair. What?
What's unfed up? Oh well.
I would run too. I ain't going to hold you. No ableism in the chat. Y'all y'all got to chill out. Slow as uh slow as uh abbleist turn.
I would run too. Shut up.
>> You ran.
>> I accidentally scrolled off your live, buddy.
>> Slippery fingers, huh?
>> Good one.
>> It is.
>> Yeah, man. Uh, just real quick, so I can make sure we're on the same page here.
Uh, can you define race for me?
>> Define Wait, hold on. my wife. One more time.
>> Can you define race for me?
>> As in the color of somebody's skin?
>> Sorry.
>> I'm asking if that's what you're talking about.
>> Unfortunately, buddy, you're uh disqualified from participating in this conversation. You don't even know what race is.
>> It was a question.
>> It's a way people have been, you know, you ask their characteristics and like how they look.
Oh, okay. You found enough time to Google it. Good. Good.
>> No, I was asking you a question, but you want to play soundboards like a 12-year-old when your grown ass man soundboard. W my 12year-old soundboard.
Hey, uh >> the loser.
>> Yeah. Hey, man. Uh that would be true if I were losing, but you're sucking at this. You're not doing >> I don't sit on TikTok live all day.
I don't care. Uh what I want you to do Yeah. I just want you to like uh make a syllogism like make an argument for why black people can be racist.
>> Okay. So if >> and before you do if you say some [ __ ] like because like if they if they don't let somebody work at their job or like because like if because or if they like say something mean they hate white people that's racist because you can't hold white people to the same standard.
Racism is defined as prejudice and discrimination or hostility towards someone because of their race.
>> Definition, bro. I'm reading you the definition, bro. After getting like that, you want to do the definition?
Let's do the [ __ ] definition. I love that [ __ ] >> You have no idea what you got yourself into. Here this [ __ ] goes.
>> Dude's got the [ __ ] computer on standby, bro.
>> I'm I'm on a computer. What the [ __ ] >> Yeah, on standby, jackass.
>> He got the computer on standby that he's using [laughter] the [ __ ] the [ __ ] We're [ __ ] cooked. Like as a nation, we're cooked. [laughter] We That's it. We [ __ ] lose. [laughter] That's it, man. Oh my god. We're going down, down, and around. And sugar, we're going down swinging.
>> Here's the definition of calculus.
Can you read that for me?
Calculi plural.
a method of computation or calculation in a special notation parenthesy as of logic or symbolic logic parenthesy.
>> All right, it's really good, man. You did a good job.
>> Now, search up briefly.
>> Really well. Okay, real quick.
>> Going down apathetic. Great spelling, Miss Nurse. You got that.
Okie dokie.
>> Yo, people in your comment saying I'm not black.
>> Yo, Smooth, go [ __ ] yourself, bro.
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop running. Uh, solve number one. Do this calculus.
>> [ __ ] off the top of my head.
What does this have to do with the topic, though? Yeah, you're bringing up the definition of racism. Like definitions help you understand how [ __ ] works. So I brought up the definition of calculus so that you knew uh >> uh Oh, you [ __ ] Oh, you [ __ ] ran.
You son of a [ __ ] >> I ran. Wait, >> Contrell Joseph's live content contains themes that uh some may find uncomfortable. If they remain in your live, your live will be unavailable to some audiences. You [ __ ] coward.
God damn it. Just as he was about to get [ __ ] [ __ ] cooked.
God damn it.
Racism isn't language. You dingleberry.
Y'all are making me mad tonight.
The number isn't up. That's okay. I closed out the number anyway.
The number is up. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I see.
I see. I see. There you go. There you go, broki.
Yeah. You got a lot of background noise.
>> I got a lot of background noise. Huh?
>> I knew you was blackfishing.
>> He ran. He ran. Old [ __ ] ass.
>> He did. Yeah. Also, I knew you were blackfishing. All right. Now, solve this [ __ ] uh equation.
Solve number one >> with or without using AI.
>> Without.
>> All right, I got you.
Wait, I'll give you a little uh I'll give you a little advantage.
You want an advantage?
>> Yep.
>> For sure. I got you.
>> Yo, Chris Tom, thanks, man. I had no idea what he was telling me to do.
>> All right, here's your advantage. Okay, there you go. There's your tool.
Yep.
All right, solve it.
>> Uh, can I see the problems again?
N you still going to use AI? [gasps] Remember where you had it? No. Say, listen. Listen, Brody. Uh, you you [ __ ] you lost this debate, man.
How so?
Because [laughter] >> No, no. This is how this works. Okay.
>> No, no, I'm not done talking. Hey, jackass.
>> Okay, I got you. Go ahead and finish, man.
>> All right. So, no, no, no. I'm going back.
We're going down, down, sugar. We're going down swinging.
Yo. All right. So, I'm going to say this and I'm going say this in front of everybody.
>> You edged me before.
>> Yeah. Like a [ __ ] Like I didn't know you was going live. Then you went live and I and I thought, "Oh, if Sully going live, he must have rescheduled the class." But then you said, "Now there's class." And then you dipped. And I was like, "Yo, you this how I said it to Sean. You just left me tied to the bed like this. What the [ __ ] is going on?"
>> Sorry. I apologize.
>> You just dipped. Just went out. So then I went I went live hunting and when I tell you I went to AG's live and some dude just smooth transition from homophobia to 1350 and I was like effortlessly or what it was it was like it was like like he want like like he was placed there gently by the by the edge lords. See what I did there? um for me. And I thought you might get jealous of the fact that that's what that's what happened. My man, when I said, "Yo, give me the evidence." My man pulled up table 43A and I was like, "Oh, this is this is the other old faithful like this." Crazy.
>> Why would you give me a gift like this?
You You already know what I'm going to do. [laughter] you like like yo anal [ __ ] like [laughter] what >> is it my birthday [laughter] yo what's going on oh [ __ ] >> yeah buddy >> I was looking at my screen like ain't no way >> ain't no way >> he just said that [ __ ] 43A is that what you said >> 43A man that'll get you every M. And so then I was like, "Oh, hey man. Well, so we we went all the way through the the whole the whole FBIish and we ended at 30 81."
>> And I was like, "Yo, I need a cigarette and a shot of shot of Jack [laughter] and the one and the two and I'll be I'll be good."
>> The whole dance. Tim, stop being a coward and accept my request, Tim.
>> Man, I was like, if I got a a shot of Jack and a cigarette right now, I'll be I'll be straight, man, for the for the rest of the evening, man.
I'm like, I'm seeing spots.
I [gasps and clears throat] was like, "Yo, when when when cuz when I did the 3081, I was like, you >> United States Sing Commission."
[laughter] [cough] That's what he said.
>> No, that's >> that's cuz uh that's cuz they uh they said uh they they add Hispanics to the whites and I and when I turned my camera on and showed them Hispanic is next to white, I was like, "Oh, my toes are curling."
>> [laughter and cough] >> Oh [ __ ] >> Oh [clears throat] my god.
>> Beautiful. [snorts] Beautiful.
>> I'm like, dog, I'm out of breath.
>> Yeah, man. And
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