White preacher gospel on racism on black history

Added: 2026-05-11

[00:00:00]I don't I don't want to be out of line, but as a white pastor with a white congregation, I'm not struggling to find sympathy for the cops.

[00:00:16]I'm not struggling to find compassion for the police.

[00:00:20]>> Y >> what I'm struggling against is people that I have known and loved.

[00:00:28]>> This is things like this happened ago. Why are they still going on about it?

[00:00:35]>> That, well, you're talking about stuff that ended a long time ago, pastor.

[00:00:40]Well, why can't they just forget about it and move on?

[00:00:44]Well, why why do we have to have a Black History Month? Why what where's our white history month? or even the stupid comments even stupider than that >> Junth.

[00:01:00]When do we get our holiday?

[00:01:05]It's called July 4th.

[00:01:09]What I'm struggling with is how do I answer these people? How do I pastor these people?

[00:01:16]This is something everyone needs to listen to because I know like I wish the white men could just leave everything that happened in the past for in the past and like let's just move on.

[00:01:32]Let's just move on. I know it's going to be very difficult, but come on, let's just move on for the best for the children for for the next generation coming up because it is getting too much.

[00:01:50]And if you ask me, I just feel from the both sides, from the black and from the white, we just have to let go of what happened.

[00:02:00]Like I'm so happy this is coming out from from a white church.

[00:02:06]Yeah. I'm so happy this is coming out from a white pastors because this thing happened years ago.

[00:02:15]So why are we always going back and front?

[00:02:20]And I know that some people like they don't actually know that what they're doing is wrong. You don't know.

[00:02:29]And with time I believe they will know and they will give it a change. But I know it is very very difficult. Yeah guys it is because some of the whites whenever they go to school they tell them this they tell them different things about the blacks and that's unfair.

[00:02:51]And they tell them crazy about the blacks and that's unfair. It's high time we just have to let just let go of the past.

[00:02:59]Why they hold back and front?

[00:03:02]That's unfair. So guys, I'm not going to say too much. Let's just hop into the video. Like please, you guys just stay tuned and watch this video and just hear what he has to say. And if you're new, please guys, do subscribe to my YouTube channel. Do subscribe for more updates.

[00:03:18]Thank you guys. Just hear what he has to say. that's that have been been been embedded for decades that have been embred in them and they think they are righteous and justified and they don't see the sin in their own heart and how do I pastor that? I've got friends that are officers and I love them and I hurt for them. Wish everyone at least.

[00:03:39]>> But right now, what I'm seeing >> is the pain in my brothers who are black and my sisters who are black and I do have compassion for the police.

[00:03:55]>> Yeah.

[00:03:56]>> But when I have betrayed a trust, it is my responsibility to find out how to fix that.

[00:04:04]>> It's not easy.

[00:04:06]>> And to my Pastor friends, we have a horrible track record in the church of betraying trust.

[00:04:21]So, I just had a comment on someone on Facebook and this is what helped me.

[00:04:25]This is where I think we've got to go.

[00:04:28]>> We've got to have the dialogues and we've got to have a place. my black pastor friends and my black friends, I've got to know what to do because you know my heart. But many of you know my heart. And so you know when I ask these questions, I'm asking because I really want reconciliation. Okay? I really want to see this healed and I don't want another hashtag.

[00:04:53]>> Just picture it this way.

[00:04:54]>> I made a comment and I didn't even make a comment. I posted celebrating Junth >> and I had a guy >> comment, "Didn't Abraham Lincoln take care of that? Are you going to tear down his statue, too?" And my thought was, "What in the world does that have to do with anything?

[00:05:19]Did you not even read what the holiday is about?" And that's that's the issue.

[00:05:24]There is a lack of desire for education because we have people that think they already know the answer and they don't understand that they keep doing the same thing, responding in the same way, and nothing changes, but it's all the black people's fault because they just won't get over it.

[00:05:41]Does that make sense what I'm saying?

[00:05:43]Please hear my heart, guys. We're in a situation where, and Uber, you're right.

[00:05:47]If the church doesn't get this right, the city's not going to get it right.

[00:05:52]But until we start having the honest conversations and having a place like this where we say, "So, so what do we say? What do I say to my friends? What do I say to change their minds? We're not going to get it right."

[00:06:06]>> Does that make sense? Please hear my heart.

[00:06:08]>> So, I'm walking in and I said to Brother Clarence, I said, "I need a little perspective because here's what I just I I I didn't answer him. I deleted this guy.

[00:06:24]Deleted his comment because I just Well, >> right on.

[00:06:30]>> It was stupid.

[00:06:33]And I And then I went and posted something about sometimes you delete a comment because you want to save somebody, their last threat of dignity.

[00:06:43]Brother Clarence said, "Yeah, but he's asking a question.

[00:06:48]He's thinking.

[00:06:50]You called his attention to something and now he has to go and think about it and now he's asking a question. You see that's a perspective that I didn't have.

[00:07:01]>> Guys, sorry for posting the video.

[00:07:03]Sorry, but all you're saying is making sense.

[00:07:07]That's just the fact.

[00:07:10]If one person, two person, 3% can just keep up to this, definitely we'll be in a better place.

[00:07:20]this whole ups and down, this whole racism. Come on. This is a long time ago.

[00:07:27]Let's just let's just continue the video of someone that's already wrestled through some issues that I'm wrestling through now.

[00:07:34]Does that make sense, guys? This is where we got to go.

[00:07:40]This is where we got to go because the issue in the church is deep.

[00:07:46]It's deep. And what's keeping in place is the defense and the deflection of the white people that continue to think and to say, "You've got to get over it.

[00:08:00]You've got to get over it. You've got to get over it." And the whole time they're continuing to perpetrate it over and over. It has nothing to do with police.

[00:08:08]>> It has everything to do with a systematic mindset that is embedded and embedded in our culture that has to change. And it begins when we begin to repent of things that God has condemned.

[00:08:22]>> It begins when we come together as pastors and say, "I'm sorry, and I'm sorry if I leave, if I lose half my congregation." But listen, I'm a proponent for unity in the city and have been for eight years. And I've seen God move, and I've seen God do things, and I've seen God lay groundwork. But until the races are unified, the church will not be unified the way God wants it to be unified. And until we repent, white pastors, UNTIL WE REPENT OF our ignorance and our deflection and our defense.

[00:08:57]Why?

[00:08:58]>> For everyone.

[00:09:00]>> Because the one who broke the trust has the burden of responsibility of pursuing the reconciliation. And we do it at whatever pace we need to do it. Not we need to do it, but the black church needs to do it. whatever pace they need to go at. Does that make sense what I'm saying? Because Jesus came to where we were. He did not expect us to come to where he is.

[00:09:29]He came to where we were so that he could walk with us into where we needed to be. Does that make sense what I'm saying?

[00:09:39]Guys, listen.

[00:09:42]If there's if there's an infidelity in a marriage, if I cheat on my wife, >> I don't Yeah, shame. Yeah, thanks.

[00:09:52]Probably it it didn't happen. If it did, I don't have the luxury of saying, "Honey, you just need to forgive and go on."

[00:10:02]I don't have the luxury of saying, "Why can't you just get over it?"

[00:10:07]Especially if I continue to cheat. If I continue to break a trust. If I continue and I have year after year after year after year of a trust that's broken.

[00:10:19]Every time you turn around, the trust is broken. Every time you turn around, the trust is broken. And here I am saying, "I love you, but you just need to go on and I break a trust. I love you, but you just need to forgive me." And I break a trust. Why don't you forgive me? Where's your bitterness? Why aren't you being like Jesus and forgiving me like you're supposed to?

[00:10:37]Guys, I've heard all those things said from people that I have known and loved my entire life about the black church.

[00:10:50]You see the stronghold?

[00:10:53]The burden of responsibility is on the part of the person that has broken the trust.

[00:11:01]I didn't mean to be out of line.

[00:11:04]I didn't mean to be out of line. I hope you my heart. I hope you hear my heart.

[00:11:14]Yeah, that's so I guess I don't >> I don't know. Was there a question in that?

[00:11:20]>> I don't think there was a question in that other than other than >> this. Does that make sense?

[00:11:30]>> We fight this battle.

[00:11:33]>> I've lost a lot of friends over the last six months.

[00:11:37]Because I say things like I understand why I understand how can they disrespect and you got people got people that well you know there were white families that lost loved ones free of the slaves under that flag. How could he for about the flag?

[00:12:03]>> What about the soldiers?

[00:12:06]>> It's about the land of the free. It's about the anthem that says the land of the free. And there's a people group that never felt free. I don't care what 1964 did. I don't care what the 1970s did. They've never felt free.

[00:12:23]Until you can understand where they're coming from, whether their feelings are correct or not doesn't matter.

[00:12:31]>> You can understand what makes them feel that way. Willing to understand that you'll never understand.

[00:12:37]>> To me, he's making this sense. Let me know in the comments.

[00:12:48]>> I want to know what is right.

[00:12:54]do what is right. We all know what is right.

[00:12:56]>> Both white and black.

[00:12:58]>> We all know what is right.

[00:13:01]>> Yeah. You know, you don't tell me you don't know.

[00:13:04]>> I want I want to share one other thing.

[00:13:07]Us as pastors, here's the thing.

[00:13:09]>> No, no, no. You're good. You're good.

[00:13:11]Let me know.

[00:13:11]>> But I want to share one other thing. As pastors, we have to get deep in our opinion.

[00:13:18]>> Now, I said, you know, I understand. But I also understand this and I offended my church some when I said this and I had to bring some clarity to it. I understand how people can say we don't need your thoughts and prayers.

[00:13:36]I understand it.

[00:13:39]I might offend some of you and if I do well when I got up because I really I'm at the point I really don't care who I offend anymore because the cross is offensive to those who are We have as pastors, as as the church in America, we have surrendered our authority by becoming friends with the world. And the Bible says if you're friends with the world, you're an enemy of God. And we've surrendered our anointing.

[00:14:12]And you know why the world is, they feel like they don't need our thoughts and prayers? Because when we pray, The way I pray on Sunday >> isn't the way I behave on Monday.

[00:14:27]>> And until we get that right, pastor, >> until we fix that, we ain't fixing.

[00:14:32]Please drop your opinion down in the comment section.

[00:14:40]>> I'm at a crux in my own personal ministry here because I have a decision to make.

[00:14:50]I made the decision. There's really no need to just hear this. Just hear this pastor up >> on the journey of reconciliation.

[00:15:05]>> This is something >> everyone needs to listen to >> because I cannot back up on >> there's healing that has to take place.

[00:15:19]And I have people that will follow me, but I may have people that will leave.

[00:15:24]And if they leave, that's okay because I have >> everyone should listen to this. Eight years ago, I just wanted to pray with pastors.

[00:15:39]That's all I wanted because I knew that if we would pray together, we could >> we can do anything that we can heal the city.

[00:15:48]God can heal the city.

[00:15:49]>> Just hold on a little bit. We come back to this. This is something everyone needs to listen to. But I'm at a place where >> we've got to continue to walk regardless of >> where unless the Lord heals >> like let's just move on.

[00:16:07]>> It's not going to get healed.

[00:16:09]>> Let's just move on. I >> also place where for seven years I thought and I made friends and I made friends with black pastors. I thought >> for the next generation we have these gatherings and now there's a representation but where is Where where are we come together? Why are we still segregated?

[00:16:35]>> It was pivotal in my thinking. I'm so happy you made the statement.

[00:16:38]>> This is coming out.

[00:16:43]>> When you said that, a light went on from a white pastor.

[00:16:47]>> And I realized they're right >> because this thing happened years ago.

[00:16:52]So we have this >> task before us. White pastors >> and I know that some people >> what are we going to do with that?

[00:16:59]>> They don't actually know that's >> because we can we can defend and we can deflect and say they need to get over it and they need to come over or we can realize again we have a track record of breaking very difficult.

[00:17:13]>> Do I have a track record of breaking trust? I don't know if I personally I don't know maybe I do. some of the words >> for me to say, "Well, I know you don't trust white pastors, but that's not me."

[00:17:23]is >> way beside the point.

[00:17:26]>> Does that make sense? It has nothing to do with the >> greatest about the >> So, we're at a place where >> for us to walk this in the city and see the healing that we need to see in the city and see the pastors and the churches come together because pastors, if we can come together and pray for each other and know each other and love each other and then our congregation to do the same, congregation to do the same wherever they are. Then we can begin to heal this thing and the church can become one. Does that make sense?

[00:17:54]>> So, I just I guess I just want >> I guess I just want my black pastor friends to know, >> guys. I'm not here for the hashtag and I'm not here for the moment.

[00:18:07]I cannot walk any other path. Even if it cost me my congregation, I cannot walk any other path. even if it cost me my congregation.