In criminal cases, trace DNA evidence only proves contact with an object, not guilt or murder, and the Idaho 4 case demonstrates how 68 terabytes of data in a 25-minute crime scene investigation raises questions about the official narrative, highlighting the importance of examining all evidence critically and understanding that official accounts may not represent the complete truth.
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WAIT... “TRIPPING” OR “PREGNANT”!? | IDAHO 4Added:
Cold wind.
>> Fire in the sky.
>> Calling me home through the fire and snow.
Voices of a know in the cold wind.
Shadows in the night, but the stars still glow.
If I fall tonight, let the whole world know.
>> Calling me home where the god stand through the storm and the blood red sand. The sky falls down and the rivers run slow. Hear my name in the winter.
>> Hot steel in the hand when the long ships sail. Cold in the lungs when the night winds whale. Came from the frost where the brave don't fail. Every scar got a story to tell. Drums in the dark when the war horns cry. Storm in the chest like the northern sky. If I walk through fire, I don't ask why kings rise once. But the legends never die. I don't run when the thunder crack. Stand my ground when the wolves attack. Whole world cold, but I build like stone. If the crown fall down, I'll take that throne.
>> Calling me home through the fire and snow. Oh, voices of the know. Oh, in the cold.
>> Shadows in the night.
But the stars still blow.
If I fall tonight, let the whole world know.
Calling me home where the god stand through the storm in the blood sand. The sky falls down and the rivers run slow.
Hear my name in the winter snow.
>> Yeah. Run through the storm with a heart that's cold. Fire in the soul. Never doing what I'm told. Raised in the north with the warriors grow. Blood on the shield when the battle horns blow. Look at the pace when the rhythm collide.
Thunder inside when the lightning strike. Living like wolves in the dead of the night. If you stand in the way, then you better take flight. I bring the frost when I step in the zone. Voice like thunder when I'm ripping the throne. Legends rise with the brave have grown. Now the whole world here when the north wind mo never fall through the stor.
We are reborn calling me home.
Through the fire and snow, all the fire and snow of the lowest in the cold.
>> Shadows in the night, >> but the stars still glow.
>> The stars still glow.
>> If I fall tonight, let the whole world know.
Calling me home where the stands flying high.
You know how I feel.
Sun, you know how I feel.
Breeze drifting on by. You know how I feel.
It's a new dawn.
It's a new day. It's a new life for me.
Turn on your mind now.
flowers to the collective soul's getting louder control.
Night in those nights in the moonlight, no escape.
Why not feel in the dark?
Paranoid searches for your rise under surveillance. Nowhere to hide. Influence creeps like blood on the floor. Fine line between peace and war from campus to cry. The script lives tragic, mystic and twisted. Magic termatic walk through lingers but the echo remain. Chains of the slain and eternal pain.
Here we go.
>> Welcome to the show. The best in town.
What is going on, Hive? I hope that everybody had an awesome weekend. Happy Monday. I can't believe that it's Monday. It kind of feels like a Monday, but it also doesn't at the same time. If this is your first time tuning, dude.
Welcome to the Hive Mind. I'm your host, Birdie. I go live week nights at 700 p.m. Central. Let me just make sure I got all the audio coming through loud and clear.
This is a contrarian thinking live stream. We think past the headlines, we question the narrative. As you were filing in, I had a poll for you all to fill out. And the question was, if you had access to one thing, what would it be? I always find it very interesting to see the results of these. And coming in at first place with 43% it was the cell phone data of anyone and everyone involved. Then in second was the unredacted 1112 audio and video at 30%.
A grand jury hearing was only 14% and the Brian Cobberger arrest audio and video was 13%. I find that interesting.
I would have picked the grand jury hearing 10 out of 10 times. I I I truly think that that would lend some of the most shocking insight, especially after seeing Lana interview the DMB worker and how they all had NDAs.
And so I feel like we would get a lot of all of that, a lot of the other options, meaning within the grand jury hearing.
So that that's what I would have chose.
However, as you all are filing it, if you have not hit the like button or if you're not subscribed, please go and do all of the things. If you'd like to follow the hive on all of the socials, you can go ahead screenshot this and then when the live concludes, all you got to do is go into your photos app, tap that QR code, and that will bring you to the Discord, which I'd highly recommend you joined my Tik Tok, the Spotify playlist for the intro songs, as well as we have some Hive merch as um the mods will now also be dropping the Hive Plus link. What is Hive Plus?
So on Saturdays I do what's called a high plus war room which is a live dig, a lot less presentation on my part and much more collaboration. And so I will never charge for the stream. If you're not Hive Plus, you can still watch it.
It's just Saturday is the one day that's reserved for the people that are a part of Hive Plus. And I really appreciate everybody who does choose to support the stream financially. And then during the normal streams when everybody has access to the chat, those members will have emojis and loyalty badges.
Now, I'm going to go ahead and say what's up to everybody and then I have a very, very exciting announcement to make. What's up, Coco Cash, Heart of Gold, Germailla, Kinga, what's going on?
Twisted Teemo Meep and Bubbles. Meet me.
Joshua Scott Griffith. Dude, I was in our Discord and the video that you posted in Hivemind Vines no longer available.
So, not sure if if you knew that. I went to go try to watch that today uh before the stream and I believe it was a Tik Tok. It was not available anymore.
What's up, Beverly?
What's up, Brandon? And don't drink chunky milk. Wendy Smith, thank you to Luna for gifting five high plus memberships. Shley redacted been a member for two months that Dylan's a wanko combo call that you and your husband did was hilarious on Saturday and say and Shelley had said loving being amongst my people the best place on the internet. Amen to that. Amen to that. and blue-eyed candy member for two months. Losing my mind over the whole interview with the G's at Crime Con.
Well, don't you worry. I've I have clips. We will be getting into all of that this evening. Rocka Lily 6tastic one. How are you doing? Beautiful disaster.
Sherlock Pones. What?
Sherlock, is that really you?
Sherlock, if if it's you, I want you to type into the chat our first ever interaction and what that message was about on TikTok. That's how I'm going to really know if that is you. And I hope that it is the real Sherlock. What's up, lovely me?
Jacqueline Sammy girl Brown waved out ether. I I saw the other day in the chat you said you wanted the bird award.
There you go brother.
Golden chicken toothache. Welcome to high plus. Hibiscus girl pretty much 7 p.m. Firefly said hia bird of your company.
I don't know. Idaho said long time no scene. Hey hive Phoenix rising a duck on quack.
Barbara Berdett, Nova Ward, JMK, Julie Clemens, what's up? Jesse XOXO Gamble, good to see you. Brandy Wine, OG growth redacted. How are you doing? Too Shirley, Lily, Chris, WTF, who done it, AP. Love, I already said love with me.
I'll say say what's up again though.
Lindsay Jessica redactivities can't redact the hive and I'm trying to find that Sherlock Poe.
Did they answer?
That's right. Golden chicken toothache been a hive plus member for two months at best mods and place to be in the world. The great vision.
Let's see. I'm trying to find that comment. I did not see it. Oh, wait.
Ah, it's the real it's the real Sherlock. DNA amplification, discover forensics, etc. How to fabricate touch DNA. Good to be back. Well, dude, it is good to have you back. And just so everybody knows, we can now confirm this is the real Sherlock Romes. Formerly known as Sherlock Romes. It's now Sherlock Pones. Got the same emoji. It's good to have you back, man. Always great to hear from you. What's up, Jeep girl?
Now, UFO dog said slow clap. Has anybody in here ever started a slow clap?
Like, I'm talking at a at a an event with a big enough crowd where it could be impressive.
I always think of the Family Guy episode where he's got to get the last clap.
I've never started a slow clap. However, I did witness my mom at a Green Bay Packers game start the wave. And then, oddly enough, after the game, Aaron Rogers has a press conference that's that said to the to the fans when they play at home, please do not start the wave when we are on offense.
It's a funny memory in our family. Coco said, "Yes, I have." Polar Life Board said, "I have, but uh it didn't work out, so it was the only one."
UFO dog, I believe that you have.
Don't drink chunky milk. Milk said at a community theater.
Twisted Teemo. Mama Birdie's doing great. Baby Birdiey's doing great.
Or you don't want to be the only one slow clapping. That's right. That's right. Yep. aired back in Pittsburgh.
So, all right, Hive. Now, before we get into this, I do have a really, really exciting announcement. If you watched Saturday's Hive Plus War Room or the replay of it, you are already aware of it, but it is absolutely 100% confirmed.
Chatted on the phone with our guest for this upcoming Wednesday, which is going to be Miss Amber Vance. I am so excited to have Amber into the hive. If you do not follow Amber on Tik Tok or YouTube, I would highly, highly, highly recommend it. She is very knowledgeable about the Idaho 4 case amongst many other cases.
Very well spoken, always bringing the receipts with visuals and her explanations are spot-on. I could tell you talking with her on the phone, it's always my favorite whenever somebody is exactly how they are on social media as far as, you know, the way that they talk about a case. She was talking exactly the same way about the case as she does in her content. And we have an epic stream lined up for you all Wednesday, and she is very excited, as am I. So, that will be this Wednesday, June 3rd, 700 p.m. Central. Amber Vance will be here with us live in the hive.
Now to get into this evening stream, the thumbnail says quote tripping or quote pregnant and it's about the 911 call body cam audio.
So, we're going to look through a couple of other things prior to getting to that.
This audio, I'm not sure how to interpret it. I do want to read a disclaimer, though, before I get into anything. Like I said, I got some really good advice from some close friends.
And now I can't find that disclaimer.
I should have it memorized by now, right?
Let me just go ahead and get that found because I want to make sure that I read that.
Um, okay. Come on.
Give me a second.
I should probably have that on hand.
Hey, where is this dang thing?
Here we go.
Alrighty. This channel, Birdie Hive Mind. The following material includes archived public post, forum content, and news articles shared forformational and analytical purposes only. These materials are presented as historical records and do not reflect my views or any of my guest views or are they assertions of fact. No claims are being made regarding guilt, innocence, or intent. Viewers are encouraged to verify all information independently and understand that online content may be inaccurate, incomplete, or misleading.
This channel being birdies birdie_hive abides by YouTube community guidelines.
Content is not intended to harass, defame, or incite violence against any individual. This channel does not promote hate speech, harassment, or harmful misinformation.
Now, as I was saying with the audio, it's always open to interpretation.
Whether that be I'm going to hear one thing, you hear another, and we have a discussion about it. On Saturday, after I played this, a lot of people heard one of two things being she was tripping or she was pregnant. And I'm very curious to hear what you all think. However, before we get into that, the G family has made quite the splash at Crime Con with their kind of spur-ofthe- moment live stream interview on Crime Talk. And I'm going to let this play and then we will comment on it. I have two clips and I'm going to start with this one here.
kids.
>> I've got two of my own and three with with Kristen here. And so >> we adopted her.
>> Yeah. So it's just one of those things where you just I couldn't imagine it.
>> Yeah. Kayla was like our adopted. We took her out of country. Maddie.
>> Yeah. Maddie.
>> Yeah. Kaylee was our our child. We >> She was kind of adopted.
>> Maddie. Maddie was >> Yeah. So it, >> you know, it's it's crazy how things happen. You know, we don't know why why it happened in Moscow, Idaho, why it happened to our daughter, why it happened to her house. You >> This is what I was thinking um the entire time is what crazy bird lady just had on or the comment that she just typed out and what I got on the screen now is what the actual bleep.
Seriously, that is very strange. The body language, the nervous laughter. Now, before anybody jumps down my throat here, let me say this.
They have being the G family, they've been on many shows. They are familiar with the media. And so, I understand nerves. Don't get me wrong, you can be nervous every single time you go on camera. However, it's not even the the kind of the stuttering and the awkward laughing. I would I would expect that.
It's what they actually say.
Is it Kayla? Is it Kaye?
Why is that interaction of like, no, Kaye was our daughter, Maddie?
Dude, I'm not even trying to hate on him. I I would say this is weird no matter what. If I watched if if this was my parents and even if nobody had been murdered and I saw my dad and my mom have this interaction, I would call them be like, "Dude, what happened?" Like, "What are you talking about adopted people and you you know, you called you called my brother a different name?"
You know what I'm saying? Brandy said, "That's very interesting."
Kat says, "I feel people are paid well to support the narrative."
WTF who done it said, "No kidding."
Growth redacted said they definitely know. Coco Cash said they forgot for a second. Narrative slipped away there.
Liz Liz Bear Liz Bereie said Major Zooted.
Nature Rock says 100.
Scouse House girl says, "Not surprised that not really been acting normal."
Sherlock Pones said, "It's not their fault, though. They just need the interviewer to step up and be an alpha."
H, you didn't miss a beat, Sherlock. You did not miss a beat.
People are saying clown horn.
Yeah. Took her out of the country.
>> Let's watch that one one more time.
>> I've got two of my own and three with with Kristen here. And so >> adopted her.
>> Yeah. So it's just one of those things where you just I couldn't imagine it.
>> Yeah. Kayla was like our adopted. We took her out of country.
>> Maggie.
>> Yeah. Maggie.
>> Yeah. Kaylee was our our child. We She was kind of adopted.
>> Maddie.
>> Maddie was Maddie.
>> Yeah. So, it, >> you know, it's it's crazy how things happen. You know, we don't know why why it happened in Moscow, Idaho. Why it happened to our daughter, why it happened to her house.
>> I don't know if there's really much to say on that. It's very interesting.
Let's check out this next one now.
>> Yeah, that guy has it coming. He's got it. And where it is, it's come.
>> He's not going to make it to be an old man in prison. I mean, eventually he's going to get out of his little protective custody and requesting his vegan meals and all that good stuff.
>> Jin Pop's going to be a pop of some sort. And you know that, you know, he picked on a small community. You thought we were a bunch of idiots. He came from the city. He came out here and you I've heard about his research paper that he did on the community because there was another murder in there and they never caught him. So he went there. He thought he had the right place. He picked them and um he's going to find out. He's going to find out if they're the right community or not.
>> Yeah.
>> First thing I'm going to say is this.
That interview in my mind, the comment about he had gotten away with it before, but not this time. Picked the wrong town. pick the wrong community.
The more that you go back and you listen to the interviews, I've said this since Steve and Chrissy were standing outside of the Moscow Police Department on Fox News where Steve did have the infamous someone step up, someone be alpha, he didn't have to go upstairs, right? Then he arguably narrative planted the IGG saying that he wishes a family lineage company would just or just come out and start swabbing people.
And now outside of the foreshadowing that they're going to kill Brian Kberger in prison, which we've talked about many times on this channel, we have shown countless clips on NewsNation on, you know, guests that News Nation has had.
We've had articles that they have foreshadowed Brian Coberger will not make it out of prison alive.
However, when Steve made the comment that he had gotten away with it before, my mind always goes back to they are talking about somebody else. It seems that Brian Cobberger is just the placeholder for. Brian Coberger seems to just be this figure head for other events that have happened. If you listened to the WSU lawsuit hearing today and the claims that are made about how girls are having escorts so that Brian Cobberger doesn't follow them and stalk him and that they got a future grapist on their hands here and that they didn't act. I mean, I'm thinking to myself like, hold what?
It's like Brian is a figurehead for somebody else that they don't want their face, their name, or something known about.
And I'm going to do a quick poll. Um, have you ever felt that BK is a figurehead with these events?
One for yes, two for no.
Have you ever felt that Brian Cobberger is a figurehead with these events? Or do you believe they're just making stuff up? So, I guess that would be, you know, the the second half of that.
And I just saw Boomer had a good question in the chat or comment in the chat as you all are voting. Boomer said the question is if the killer got away with it before, how does SG know that?
Right.
There's a lot of information that you hear it and you're like when did that get said? And I understand people could forget stuff, but between all of us in here, there's a lot of things that are like, when did that get said?
Okay. So about 70 7030 split approximately.
Now for the people that are saying no, do you think that that could somebody type out maybe a sentence or two on if you voted no um the argument for that?
And again, I'm not here to roast anybody. I'm always just curious as far as the other side of the of the line on that the other side of the fence.
And the final was 71% yes. 29% no.
Um yeah, Germailla says, "What is Figure Head like a placeholder?" Yes.
Again. So if you said no, it's not a placeholder, what would be the reasoning that they say these things that's like, wait, when, how, right? And and the whole involvement with a a murder in Pennsylvania and getting away with it.
Sherlock said, I think Bill Thompson would have led with that kind of evidence. Nancy Drew, I think we would have seen that early on. They wouldn't want to hide that, right, guys? Anything that could have absolutely cooked Brian Coberger to Sherlock's point, they would have we would have seen it all. If there was an image of Brian Kberger crystal clearly in a whitey lantra literally anywhere and they didn't have one. So they followed him across the country. They pulled him over the middle of nowhere twice within 20 minutes or whatever it was. See him on body cam.
Instead, they release a photo of the suspect vehicle that is a photo of a photo with some guy's hand in it.
Creepily Goth said Steve is the figure head.
Now that now that would require this right here.
>> Please retrieve your nearest tin foil hat. Place firmly on your head.
>> I'm not going to lie, Steve G kind of looks like a fed a little bit. a little bit a while ago. I said both Brian Cobberger and Steve G have that Fed look. The if I saw Steve G with the hex hat out and kind of the the picture that's one of the most popular pictures of him that people use is with the hex hat, I'd be like that guy, he kind of looks like he'd be a cop.
What's up, Texas teacher? Yeah, the looks have changed for all of them. And that's just a general comment. I'm not saying for better or worse or anything.
I'm just saying they they definitely look different.
Cribly goth said that SG was the most televised person following up on that.
the haircut, the jawline.
So, let's watch that clip one more time here. Again, total foreshadowing. I've said this I've said this a couple of times. Before I play this, let me just say this one more time. If Brian Cobberger gets murdered in prison or if he unalivives himself or if there's no plea, if he doesn't challenge this and he doesn't talk, ladies and gentlemen, I believe that what we have seen is one of two things. It's either the worst example of Uncle Sam having his way with you in the court system and nobody helping you or there is a backdoor there's a there's a closed doors deal that was made behind closed doors. Brian Cobberger if he gets quote unquote whacked in prison I'm sorry I'll just put it out there. I'd find it shocking if the split on if people believe it would be anything less than 7030 wouldn't.
If you heard that Brian Kberger was killed in prison, is there a thought in your brain that says h that could maybe be wits act could have been a backdoor deal based on they couldn't let this publicly fall out. They don't care if the people that have been looking into this that are known as the conspiracy theorists, they've never had a grand reveal ever before, right? I said this Saturday. I said the worst, one of the worst things about being a quote unquote conspiracy theorist is that there's never a grand reveal. The problem with going down the rabbit hole and connecting all the dots is that in order for people to believe you, they need a parade. and every giant talking head and talking suit that they watched in the on the evening news to roll out on a float and say, "You conspiracy theorists were right. We lied. We have been influenced by the feds, by the CIA. Big pharma's paid all of our ads for years. We couldn't risk it. We had to say whatever they want. We had to just nod along and clap with them. You crazy internet armchair detective conspiracy theorists, you got us. If you think that that's ever gonna happen, you are sorely mistaken. You're gonna be waiting for a long damn time.
They will never come out and tell you.
And it is one of the most maddening things about being able to think critically, especially when you're talking to some NPC that doesn't know their ass from their forehead. And they are like, "What? That's not true. That's not what the news said." And so with this case, why would they ever bother letting that fall out publicly? They wouldn't. they would absolutely just ride out their narrative and say, "We don't really care how bad it looks. We don't care if just a fraction of the people know that we've lied." Uh myself and UFO Dog and Amanda B will post clips from the stream on to Tik Tok. We have a couple of clips pages. the amount of comments that this is all they say when they see a clip of us talking about audio or maybe saying that this doesn't make sense. It's my favorite comments.
They go, "Sorry, Brian did it. End of story." And those few words, I'm actually so grateful that certain people say that in the comments because I don't care if it sounds like I'm judging you.
I am. That tells me everything that I need to know about you.
Not just in this case, but with any other situation you could imagine.
Any other situation could imagine, I would say, yeah, you know, I could probably guess how that's going to go.
Sorry. Why are you apologizing to me?
End of story. Okay. Well, I understand if you haven't followed the case inside and out, but then it goes back to why would you say that if you haven't been following the case? So, there's an argument in every single direction that you could think of.
Jeff H., it's weird. Usually I have to say your name to summon you, but apparently this time I just had to say NPC and you pop right on up. So Jeff H said, "I want to hear Brian in his own words from his own mouth talk about all the stuff he did that night. That would be tragic if he met his demise in prison without doing that." I agree with you on that, Jeff. Jeff, do you believe that we're going to get that? Because I don't. I don't. I was tuned into Typically Unique. She goes live during the day sometimes and when I'm driving for work, I'll tune in to Typically Unique. I like her. She did the um the shoot, not forgetting the name of Daggo's show, the the verdict room. And when I was on there um and so I've been tuning into her lives, and she was talking about this WSU lawsuit, they're talking about how the trial is set for September of 2027. And I said, for the civil suit, meaning anybody want to take bets on if this goes to trial? I don't think it's going to.
I don't think that would be a stretch.
Could you imagine if Brian Cobberger gets killed in prison, the civil suit doesn't go to trial?
They're just gonna let this die out.
They're never going to give us the answers.
And I'll do a poll on that.
Do you think the WSU civil suit will go to trial?
One for yes.
two for now.
And the reason why I think that is because what does everybody think is going to happen with the civil suit? I think it's rather easy to sum it up. And that is we think we're going to get answers. And what's a common trend in the Idaho 4 case? What's a common trend in the Idaho 4 case? We're never going to get the clear answers. It's about going to be as clear as mud.
Clear as mud. more questions.
And so, yes, we can have hope. I obviously want that. I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy Grace here, but I do not believe, hive, that the odds are in our favor with that.
Now, I just saw blue-eyed Candy, thank you so much for the super chat, said after hearing about the Alfred plea being shot out, I truly believe Brian Kberger's family told him to plead guilty, this judge wasn't letting them have a defense of any kind.
While yes, I agree with that. And I also think that there was something with the timing of his sister being put onto the witness list. I don't know if it had to do with not wanting to drag his family into it outside of him, right? That is strange. Remember, I think Josh Herwit, I was listening to a podcast with him.
Was a smaller podcast. I think he even referenced that or the host asked him that. He's like, "Yeah, the timing was a little bit weird. I was getting all geared up for trial." Like, "Okay, Josh, I'm sure you were, buddy." And in addition to that, what Blue-Eyed Candy said with the Alfred plea, now one thing, if you've tuned in, you've heard me make the analogy of the difference between what someone like Dr. Turvy does, which is we are going to stick to the facts. And then I've made the comparison to how or I've made the the analogy of how different they are than a detective. A detective is going and they're trying to figure stuff out.
They're trying to connect the dots when they don't have all the facts yet. They are two totally separate things. And I say that because when I read your super chat, blue-eyed candy, about the Alfred plea being shot down and Brian Cobberger's family telling him to plead guilty, I would equate that to how I talked about what Brett Turvy does, sticking to the facts.
And in this case of what you just said, that's assuming this is a normal straightforward case.
Then when we go to the other side, I just mentioned the detectives and having to connect the dots and bridge build when you don't have all the facts is how I would stack this uh comparison onto it. And I would say it could look very different and you would see a lot of things that would typically happen not just because of corruption, but because of somebody having to be in a public-f facing role.
Two separate things. I know we have a lot of people that are on one side of the other. Maybe they're like myself.
They believe a little bit of everything with it. But that's a great point and I don't think that that's a stretch. But I also don't think you could just give this case straight up, you know, this is just a straight up normal case.
And the voting on that poll was pretty clear. 83% of people do not believe that the WSU civil suit is going to go to trial.
Let's just give that a preliminary clown horn.
Unbelievable. I hope we're wrong.
I hope we are wrong.
Yeah. OJ 1994 said settled out of court.
I mean guys, like look at the difference of I mean the the the case that's everybody's talking about right now is with the crash in Mackenzie Shrill.
Look at that, dude. You could name countless other cases where somebody, you know, quote unquote goes to prison or not not quoteunquote goes to prison. Uh when somebody goes to prison in a quote unquote controversial way of their intent and how much proof did they have, is there reasonable doubt, Netflix will jump all over it. Every single person will, you know, start to try to get into contact with the family and the friends and everything for interviews. But for this one, no. Especially at this point.
At this point, nobody's thinking to themselves, "Oh my god, I could break the story that Brian Cobberger may not have committed the Idaho four murders."
That That's one of the That would be one of the biggest breaking news stories in the world. And I'm not just saying that because we spend a lot of time looking into it. I I mean that that would be every headline. Breaking news. Brian Cobberger exonerated from prison.
Now, I'm gonna play this one more time.
Sorry for kind of going off on a little tangent there, but >> yeah, that guy has it coming. He's got it. And where it is, it's coming.
>> He's not going to make it to be an old man in prison. I eventually he's going to get out of his little protective custody and requesting his vegan meals and all that good stuff.
>> Jin Pop's going to be a pop of some sort. And you know that you know he picked on a small community. You thought we were a bunch of idiots. He came from the city. He came out here and you I've heard about his research paper that he did on the community cuz there was another murder in there and they never caught him. So he went there. He thought he had the right place. He picked them and um he's going to find out. He's going to find out if they're right community or not.
>> Yeah.
So, he's gonna find out if they're the right community or not. Okay, let me go ahead and throw my hypothetical tinfoil hat on. If you all could please for just a moment, humor me and try to get into my headsp space for the next minute or so.
Going back to it seems as if Steve is talking through the screen. And I'll refer once again to the interview outside the Moscow Police Department where Steve is saying, "Someone step up.
Someone be alpha." He didn't have to go upstairs. He's got to be off the street.
Right. It seems as if he's talking through the screen. Now, for this one, I feel the same type of vibe coming from it. I feel as if he's talking through the screen to somebody.
And if we were to think outside of the box, okay, and stick with me on this. If we were to if we were to think outside the box on what could a small community be and when he gets in a gen pop, there's going to be a pop and he's going to see if he chose the right community.
Okay.
Is it a stretch to to think that there could be some double speak going on with what gang they picked? He joined a small gang. I would say the Aryan Knights, Aryan family, any white supremacist gang, rather small in comparison to some other gangs that are in this country or in prison. And he'll see when he gets into Genpop if he picked the right community, meaning in certain gangs, you don't touch women or children.
And so if he had done this before and then if you maybe go against the rules of the gang saying, you know, are they going to say that this was justified for killing, you know, a woman or a child, right? Is anybody else following that? Could anybody else maybe see that? I'm going to play that again and think through if again try to get into the head space of double speak. And I I don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole, but if there's anybody that could maybe back me up and and throw an extra sentence or two onto that to clarify if that didn't make sense what I just said, um please do.
So Brandon said, "Yeah, but Birdie, the people that will know if he did it or not are in the are the effing convicts."
Yeah. Well, that's true. That's and that's what I'm saying is so if they're in prison and the person gets the Jedpop and he's arowed the other gag members, they're going to decide do they do they go after him or do they not, right?
And there's no way that Brian Cber's in a gang.
It would it'd be equivalent to the other guys.
Gada's [ __ ] better be wearing jimmies. Gay Gada needs his cat back.
That's what I could see Brian Carberger doing.
>> Yeah, that guy hasn't come. He's got it.
And word is it's coming.
>> He's not going to make it to be an old man in prison. I mean, eventually he's going to get out of his little protective custody and requesting his vegan meals and all that good stuff.
>> Jin Pop's going to be a pop of some sort. And you know that you know he picked on a small community. You thought we were a bunch of idiots. He came from the city. He came out here and you I've heard about his research paper that he did on the community cuz there was another murder in there and they never caught him. So he went there. He thought he had the right place. He picked them and um he's going to find out. He's going to find out if they're right community or not. Yeah.
>> You know what I mean? Like I'm just saying I don't necessarily believe that. I'm just trying to think about how could we make any possible sense of how would Steve know that? Why do they keep pushing for this prison justice?
Do you know what I'm saying? You go back, you look at some of the Ashley Banfield clips, it's like, dude, if this guy gets jumped in prison and clearly people knew about there was a plan for it. I don't know if not that you could be held liable but it's like is anybody going to keep an eye on this came from the city loly lols tuned in from Australia said love your videos we believe Brad Kberger's interest in the or innocent in the hive down So again, I don't know, maybe that resonated with some people. Maybe they thought it was batshit crazy. I just wanted to put that out there as far as is there a chance the double speak could be coming through half and half because then he'll throw in the research paper to make it seem like he is talking about Brian, but coming from the city, have another murder in there.
And Donnie says, "No, Birdie." He's just basically saying bride's going to be taken out. In other words, he's saying in a KG way he's going to make sure that he's he's taken out. Remember G's bro is in prison. Yeah, for sure. Oh, I and I hope that it it goes without being said that I fully wrap my head around that.
Obviously, that's what he's saying. Um I'm just trying to I was just trying to think through is there an ex is there a is there a different way to explain some of the stuff that they're saying about apparently Coberger now? Okay, little bit different here, but I found some drone footage that I have not seen in a very, very, very long time. And this drone footage does some of the best or I think it does a phenomenal job actually, excuse me, at showing the proximity of this King Road area in Sigma Kai. So, I'll go ahead and I'll play this full screen.
And there's no there's no music or volume on it. But if you look at this, I mean, this drone, it's always just mind-blowing to me with with how small these streets really are and how quickly you could get from place to place.
It is not a big area by any means. And I think this view is also really good for us to see because we typically are only looking down Linda Lane through the car park or off of 1112. And I think this helps visualize what like see how that car just turned, that black car that just turned. We can kind of visualize what it would look like on this side of the road.
And I'll play that one more time because when when the cars come up here, I think that's an important visual to have to kind of picture how it would look coming in.
We won't spend too much time on this. I just found it intriguing.
So, watch this car here.
So, I think it's good to see for every car now that we see entering on 1112 It's so close to Sigma Kai. Yes, sleuth.
Sigma guy looks like a dump.
The house is and um the house is right here where my cursor is. So here's here's King Road. I mean, look at this straight shot from the banfield.
So, if I go towards the end here, people couldn't see my cursor.
Here's King Road.
Straight shot.
Uh, this next one, I'm sure that most people have seen this by now. If you have not, this is it's always impressive to me when somebody or the internet, right? So I saw this on only available at not available but I'm pretty sure that he is taking somebody else and what they found. I think he gives them credit at the end of his TikTok. However, I am always impressed where at especially at this stage in this case when you see somebody find something that is like holy hell this is actually a huge deal.
If in the morning when the cops are there, you see somebody walking with what looks to be a shower curtain, towels, and latex gloves on their hands going towards Jack Show Walter's hands and running off. I'm just going to shut up and I'm going to play this. This video is It's insane. It's going to make your head spin.
and I had to give.
>> Is this a shower curtain with rings to hang up? Just like in this example here, she has something covered under her blanket and is running over to Jagd's house. Although MPD is already there, now she's in a hurry. Crossing the street, she looks back once to see if anyone has seen her and went over to Jagd's house at 12:14. Did she switch the shower curtain visible here, the white spot? because 2 minutes later she came back with two persons following her while three other persons went down the street looking behind the staircase and went up the stairs with what it looks like a freshly new shower curtain and it is Jack's house because it's the only possibility once she crossed the street it's the only house there so did she switch her own shower curtain shower curtain of the one to Kingward house or the shower curtain of Jack D's house don't forget that they found red through it on the entry hallway at east wall of the kitchen in Jack's house. Shout out to Lex who sent me this picture.
>> Okay, hands down, all BS and jokes aside, this is one of the sketchiest things that I've ever seen the morning after.
This is up there with how bad Dylan and Bethany seemed to communicate. They didn't know that there was four people brutally stabbed to death, blood everywhere, and they called for an unconscious person.
There is somebody walking into a house with latex gloves on and what looks to be a shower curtain and or towels towards the house of somebody.
I just I'm going to play that one more time. And again, I know that it sounds a little bit different with the background music. I had to remove the background music for copyright risk. So, I'll It's a little bit quiet in the beginning, but then he'll start talking.
This is just unreal. Is this a shower curtain with rings to hang up just like in this example here? She has something covered under her blanket and is running over to Jag's house. Although MPD is already there, now she's in a hurry.
Crossing the street, she looks back once to see if anyone has seen her and went over to Jagd's house at 12:14. Did she switch the shower curtain visible here the white spot? Because 2 minutes later, she came back with two persons following her while three other persons went down the street looking behind the staircase and went up the stairs with what it looks like a freshly new shower curtain.
And it is Jack's house because it's the only possibility once she crossed the street. It's the only house there. So, did she switch her own shower curtain?
shower curtain of the one to the to Kingward house or the shower curtain of Jack D's house. Don't forget that they found red fluid on the entry hallway at east wall of the kitchen and Jack's house. Shout out to Lex who sent me this picture.
>> Yes, shout out to Lex and shout out to only available at not available. Both of you all get the goat award from the hive. And one thing that stuck out to me, it's very rare to see this or for me to say this in the in the Idaho 4 case. I actually think that I could count on one hand how many times I've said this when I'm watching that Tik Tok from only available and not available and he zooms in on the girl running away looking back and then seeing people leave afterwards. Do you want to know what is such a rare thought to have in this case? Is that looks so authentically accurate to what you would expect to see in that situation, especially if you are hiding something.
Everybody else's behavior has just seemed so weird and off-putting, but it didn't make sense. This makes perfect sense that it's weird and that it's off-putting. It makes total and complete sense. It's exactly what you would you would expect to see if somebody is doing some sus af stuff. It's exactly the way that their body would probably move. The looking over the shoulder, the trot, people coming back over afterwards or leaving afterwards going in the direction towards people that have been peripheral players or maybe an ex-boyfriend of one of the victims. It is 100%, in my opinion, the breakdown at least is accurate to what you may expect to see. If you were a detective and you saw this and this didn't raise your eyebrows, I'm not sure what else could.
She's got gloves on. I'm going to I usually don't play a video three times.
I'm going to play this one more time.
This is insane.
This is insane.
I mean, I'm just shocked. Is this a shower curtain with rings to hang up?
Just like in this example here, she has something covered under her blanket and is running over to Jagd's house.
Although MPD is already there, now she's in a hurry. Crossing the street, she looks back once to see if anyone has seen her and went over to Jag's house at 12:14. Did she switch the shower curtain visible here, the white spot? because 2 minutes later she came back with two persons following her while three other persons went down the street looking behind the staircase and went up the stairs with what it looks like a freshly new shower curtain and it is Jackie's house because it's the only possibility once she crossed the street it's the only house there so did she switch her own shower curtain shower curtain of the one to Kingward house or the shower curtain of Jack D's house don't forget that they found red through it on the entry hallway at East SW off the kitchen in Jack's house. Shout out to Lexi who sent me this picture.
>> I just I'm giving them a standing ovation for that one. Seriously, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable that nobody picked up on that till now.
And it's almost more impressive at this point that somebody hasn't found it before. So, that video right there should have millions of views. It should be mega viral at this point. I don't know how it's not. Maybe it is. I haven't looked at the stats of it. It should be if it's not. You have somebody All these kids know. All of these kids know, dude. What else would they be running for, leaving all looking over their shoulder? It is the most easy thing to look at on camera in my opinion and and see, yeah, if I was a betman and if if I had to guess, I'd say they all know. Not only do they all know what's going on there, they might not know the absolute specifics of of the little minute details, right? But they know something happened.
And it's just Now, here's where it gets even crazier.
So, I took these photos that have been circulating. Thank you to everybody who did post them in our Discord. And you all know me. I love to use Super Grock because I had a phenomenal deal when I signed up for Super Grock for monthly payments. Grock is the best AI for enhancing images. And I'm going to go ahead and show this. So on the left we have the original. I took a screenshot of me uploading this to Super Grock and said make this image crystal clear. Look at how freaking clear it is. It doesn't seem to pick up that it's a shower curtain, but rather bath towels. And you can see that her hair looks recently showered. However, what you need to really zone in on is the fact that this chick is wearing latex gloves.
And I'm sure there's going to be somebody that says, "I'm sure she was just putting on a spray tan. It was a rub on tan. Birdie, don't you know that?
Stop saying that this is nefarious." No.
Okay. Well, there'd be tanner all over that glove. I've thought through almost everything. There is no logical reason in my opinion that any person while this is going on that you would be running with towels and a latex glove on your hand.
Kiss me where I pee and it's a rub on tad birdie. No, it's not.
I literally prepared this slide. And I thought to myself, I I have to think through every possible reason that some people will do mental gymnastics for this to not be sketchy. And I thought to myself, I bet someone's going to say, "This is rub on tanner." It's obvious, Birdie. Don't you know you wear gloves when you use rub on tanners?
And you don't necessarily wear them.
I've asked Mrs. Birdie, you use this like it's like a washcloth glove. It It reminds me of what I use to wash my truck with soap. It's like a giant mitt.
Apparently, that's what you use for rub on tanner. Not latex gloves, if you didn't know. Now you do. And hot girl bummer, thank you for the super chat said they got the hell out of Dodge the next day. Coffee Master, good to see you, brother. said, "Holy shit."
And yes, it's a mit. That's right. It's a mit, not a glove.
Anxiety mosquitoes, thanks for being a High Plus member for two months. Said the girl with the shower curtain looks like she has a bloody bandage on her thumb. Well, it's not a bandage. It's a glove.
Guess who said, "Can you pull up the pick of her on the balcony when she looks scared AF?
Oh, is that Well, is that the same chick?
Let me just see right here.
I don't think if if it is the same person, they changed I don't think that any of them are wearing a corner club sweatshirt if that's the one you're referring to.
Yeah, I see the hair color, but I mean the cops are already there in this photo, right? And in this video, you could see them right here. And he said it's at 12:30. I I feel like it might maybe it's this this person.
See the gray sweatshirt? Maybe gray sweatshirt.
Yeah, they do look scared. I mean, this is the face of somebody who is Yeah, scared for one reason or another.
Now I'm going to do a poll here and hive. If you have not hit the like button, please take two seconds, leave more touch DNA on that like button. Then Coberger left on the sheath, which by the way, for anybody that's going to say DNA tied Brian Coberger to the crime.
Let's not forget, too, that in court, trace DNA is just proving contact of an object. Trace DNA does not prove murder.
that and that alone. I was texting the mods earlier today because Luna had her son tried to decode this article that somebody posted in the Discord and I just started thinking to myself, I'm like, all Trace DNA is showing is that at some point there was contact. Do they know when that contact occurred or are they just going to go ahead and say, "Oh yeah, it's uh that's all the murders, too." I'd be curious what maybe any lawyers in here would say about that, but it just proves contact trace DNA has led to many wrongful convictions. Um, do you believe that this Tik Tok could raise the eyebrows of the detectives?
Uh, not of the detectives. We know that's not going to happen. of the normies who believe.
I'm just going to say of the MSNPCs, yes or no helping?
All right, here's the poll. Do you believe that this video here that I'm going to play could wake up anybody who is just a mainstream media sim? Is this a shower curtain with rings to hang up? Just like in this example here, she has something covered under her blanket and is running over to Jagd's house. Although MPD is already there, now she's in a hurry.
Crossing the street, she looks back once to see if anyone has seen her and went over to Jag's house at 12:14. Did she switch the shower curtain visible here, the white spot? because 2 minutes later she came back with two persons following her while three other persons went down the street looking behind the staircase and went up the stairs with what it looks like a freshly new shower curtain and it is Jack's house because it's the only possibility once she crossed the street it's the only house there so did she switch her own shower curtain shower curtain of the one to the kingward house or the shower curtain of Jack D's house don't forget that they found red fluid on the entry hallway at East one of the kitchen in Jack's house. Shout out to Lexi who sent me this picture, >> you know. And again, maybe maybe there's an explanation for this, but either way, if you're going to try to argue that this isn't sus AF, that's the equivalent of pissing on me and telling me that it's rating. So, don't piss on me and tell me it's rating. This is sketchy. This is sketchy as hell that there is latex gloves and towels and a bunch of people running to the ex-boyfriend's house or at least in that direction. And let's see what the hive said for the poll.
79% of people said there is no helping any of the MSNPCs at this point.
21% said yes. Well, I'd like to hope yes.
And Tony Stevenson, good to see you, brother. Said, "It's the running for me." Julie Hughes said, "Why the blanket?" Yavad Watcher said, "Sketchy."
Jesus is pressed said, "Uh, is that even how you say your name? Is it even Jesus? Is Jesuit pre Jessu?
I've been butchering that. I've been calling you Jesus. My bad. Everyone lost their shoes that morning.
Kiss me where I pee. Said, "Rain on that parade." Sherlock Pone said, "We don't need the NPCs to get justice. We can do it without them." I agree with that, brother. Man UFO dog said, "The look backwards was telling."
Wave said, "Definitely looks panicked, not relaxed as far as body language facts."
Lisa said, "They don't care. They want it to go away." The white rabbit nine said sorority sisters live in that house.
Drizzler said it's absolutely crazy about the number of people in and out of the 112 1112, excuse me, King Road house throughout the entire night. 100% the people in that house know what happened over there that night. I agree. I don't know how you couldn't hear anything. I don't know how you wouldn't be curious because it's going on at hours, right?
You could maybe make the argument that by 4:00 a.m. people, if you've been drinking all day, if it was game day, you're going to pass out drunk. You don't care. But this is this started going on, you know, before 1:00 a.m. So, it was going on for a long time as far as loud noises. Now, again, you could say it's party noises, it's college, it's this, it's that. Again, if there wasn't a quadruple murder happening and the timeline that the official narrative gave us made any lick of a lick of sense, well, then that argument might be more valid. But because it doesn't, it's easy to look at every scream as nefarious.
Now, Clue Smith says, "Yes, it sus."
Gerbilla said, "It looks like a sweatshirt Adam would own from his job in my opinion." Oh, tiny mama three.
Good to see you. Said the shower curtain only be only mattered because Brian Kber was missing his. Yeah, but there was like nothing in Cobber's apartment.
Cober's apartment looked like a safe house, did it? I mean, you out of all things, no shower curtain, but a birthday card with Teddy Roosevelt riding a dinosaur on it. I mean, it looked I don't know.
Philly girl said a half day of craziness. Captain Indiglo Wonderlust said they knew something was going to happen but they didn't think it would be butchery. Blue Stone said safe house.
Brandon Ruer said the true science and left a super nice PC is what Suther said.
Life of Chrissy Marie. Thank you for the super chat. The the 1112 girls knew when they got home they heard something and got back in the truck. You see their phones flashing notifications and they look at them. They also they also are very very careful to make sure that they are redacting almost every time besides the flannel dude walking up the stairs. Pretty much they redact anything other than the footprint sound and the two girls walking out. They don't, but it sounds like running water the entire time on the 1112. The audio is so bad you could barely make out if anything a maybe a word or two. Um, but yeah, they're very very conscious of making sure that that audio does not get heard whatever people are saying if they're on the phone, if it's on speaker phone. I agree with that.
Liz Gaspari, thank you for clearing this up for everybody. Don't be silly. They share shower curtains. Times are tough, Hive. Yes, I could see somebody actually making that argument.
I really could.
That's how this case has made people schizophrenic.
I don't know how else to say it. This is the most obvious cut and dry reasonable doubt case I've ever seen. And by the way, let's not forget, nobody in here wants any murderer to get away with murder, right? Should be shot and pissed on. But when it's this and it's a death penalty case and there's enough reasonable doubt that the entire Pacific Northwest could drown in it 10 times over, yeah, it's a little bit concerning. stakes are raised and when a guy is writing papers about people who are forced into plea deals and then he's essentially forced into a plea deal to get the death penalty off the table and doesn't say a word. There's no photos of him in the car. There's no clear photo of his license plate. He had no motive.
They never found the murder weapon.
There's a speck of trace DNA on a knife sheath loop or button. It's come back to four brothers in Pennsylvania. Well, where's the KBAR factory at? It's in Pennsylvania.
It's unbelievable the It's so confusing how even if there was that many terabytes, which is also another wild thing about the Idaho 4 case that has 68 terabytes.
In 30 days, 9/11 investigation only had 30 terabytes, 33 terabytes, excuse me.
So we have a international terrorist attack that has 33 terabytes in 30 days and we have 68 terabytes in what is supposed to be a loner incel psycho serial killer wannabe that's the creepiest guy in the world according to Nancy Grace and Ashley Banfield and Brian Anton that just randomly picked this house he had no motive turned into Jason Bourne They never found the knife.
No DNA in his car. And it was so quick.
It was 16 minutes. 40:04 to 4:20 or 4:00 to 4:25 officially. 25 minutes has almost double the amount of terabytes of data that 9/11 investigation did in 30 days. You tell me, Hive, how the hell does that make sense? And I don't want to hear the argument of the quality of the video and the images is so much better. It's not. It's the worst video and audio that I've ever seen in 2022.
You can watch the desert storm war on X.
You can see footage from tens of thousands of feet in the air from drones back in like the early 2000s. The footage is better. This is 2022. It's from a light bulb camera and it's the worst audio and video I have ever seen in my life. It It's either purposely manipulated.
It just does not make any sense to me.
So 68 terabytes, 33 terabytes doesn't make any sense.
Doesn't make any sense. And Taylor, yeah, maybe you couldn't get through 68 terabytes. It's a lot. Don't get me wrong, it is. But do you need to get through all of it? I'm serious. Do you think that you would have needed to get through 68 terabytes of data to prove reasonable doubt?
because I believe that if they didn't release another thing, you could go into court and you could make an extremely an extremely convincing argument for reasonable doubt. And it's not just the the showman defense attorney. Let's get my highpaying client off of death row. As we know, there's no rich men on death row, right? It's not just this giant showmanship defense. I mean, this would be, I think, a very straightforward defense with everything that we have now, even if they never released anything else. A capable attorney could do it.
Chaos and Christina said they were collecting everything because they had nothing. Well, 68 terabytes could also make sense if they were going to cast that net far and wide and maybe want to look into all of the sketchy things that are going on at the Pacific Northwest Highway with human trafficking and drugs and guns and all that other stuff, right? I mean, you encapsulate everybody. Maybe that's why Brian Cberger was tracked across states allegedly. or maybe it's not federal, but it's just casting that net far and wide seems to have really benefited a lot of people a few months later when a massive million multi-million dollar drug and gun ring goes down and 27 people get rolled up in the middle of it and five go into witness protection. I'm not saying that it's even tied to it. You could keep them separate. It's just I don't know how you could argue that the feds or who'sever working that case wouldn't utilize this 30-day we have no idea who just stabbed these four kids up to death is. We got a blurry picture of a picture with some guy's grubby fingers in it of a We don't They say it's a white Elantra, but yes, thank you, Luna. Almost we got over 1.6 almost 1,700 people in here. Please hit that like button. That's the best way to support the the Hive and the channel, and I appreciate it big time.
Now, Hive to get into this body cam audio.
All right.
This email was sent from a Proton Mail account. They did not want their name included in it. However, this is the email that I received or that the mods and I received, which if you do have anything to share with the hive, we will always respect the want to stay anonymous. obviously take those precautions yourself if that's a proton mail and you make your own decisions as far as what you'd like to send or not.
However, just know we will respect anybody wanting to remain anonymous and will not show your name on stream if you choose not to be on the stream. So, this person had emailed us saying this is just as he walks toward the house and the subject line was Nunes body cam audio enhanced or something like that.
This is just as he walks towards the house. The interesting part is looped.
If Carara, meaning Zanna's mother, watches your show, it might not be cool to play it for public consumption. I'll leave it up to you. Peace out. Well, after talking with my mods and after showing this in the Hive Plus War Room, I believe that this is rather interesting. It's straightforward. And people did hear one of two things. If you saw the thumbnail, tripping or pregnant. And I will leave that all up to you. There are no captions. Turn your volume up and let me know what you hear. The original body cam audio is going to play first and then the enhanced audio.
Where she at?
Yep. Where she at? Where she at?
>> Where she at?
>> Where she at? Where she at?
So, I'll turn it up just a little bit more. I'm going to let this play through one more time before we comment on it.
Where she at?
Yep. Where she at? Where she at?
>> Where she at?
>> Where she at? Where she at?
And so I am going to put up a poll here.
hive.
What do you hear? One for pregnant, two for tripping, three for other.
And I'm going to read through some of these comments. I won't be able to put them up on the screen because I don't want the poll to go down. But all you got to do in order to vote in that poll is just open up the the keypad on your on your keyboard and just type one for pregnant, two for tripping, three for other.
So, Bor to be Wild said, "You can hear the T at the end. It's pregnant." Becky said tripping. Julie Hugh says he's been in. So, one of the arguments that we had this Saturday that was uh for Tripping was why would you tell an officer that it seems like irrelevant information at that point? I don't know if pregnant would be more relevant, less relevant.
Um, you can hear it on the original audio, you know, you could hear what she says.
is it's not like you got to get rid of any background noise. You just got to enhance the tone or however this person did this. But I'm looking at the the poll here and wow uh almost almost 70% 70% of people are saying that they hear pregnant. 9% are hearing tripping and uh 21% are hearing other. If you are hearing other people are saying he's been in, he's been in.
Um my Proberger said, I believe it's Dylan speaking to the 911 operator that in that part of the 911 call, we did go and listen to the 911 call at that part.
The 911 operator is talking at that moment and so you cannot hear what Dylan is saying on the 911 audio.
So James James Fur said three syllables.
Julie Hughes says he's present.
I'm going to replay it. Yes, crap duster. So, that first poll finished out at 69% pregnant, 8% tripping, 22% other.
Let's play this again and see if I'll turn it up just slightly more. If I turn it up too much, it kind of blows out the base.
Where she at?
Yep. Where's she at? Where she at?
>> Where she at?
>> Where she at? Where she at?
I feel like I hear was right. So, so people are saying yes, he is present.
Yes, he is present. Okay. I mean, I will um I'm going to just open this up and focus on that enhanced part here.
I hear was I hear I hear yes she I hear she I hear she totally I hear sh e.
And again I'm not here to argue it.
That's why I read the disclaimer in the beginning of this. I said it's always up for speculation. He could be completely off on this. Uh, somebody brought up Saturday, as I'm sure most of us has heard, there have been rumors of this.
Now, is anybody surprised that we wouldn't have confirmation on that? Any basis of it? No. You know, saying present wouldn't make sense, though. Jello said said yes, she's pregnant. I hear present.
Well, it's just Okay. So, so here's one thing too that I whenever people email me.
There are people who their emails are similar to their username or people will say who they are, right? Like, hey, you know, I'm this person in the chat.
Here's my theory. Blah blah blah.
We didn't get any of that for this one.
And when whenever I see a proton mail too, I'm like, okay, this person, they know their stuff. They're not going to, you know, it's it's encrypted.
They don't mess around with whatever they send. So, I found that interesting.
Cranky Coffee Cranky Craw said he's pregnant. Plot twist.
All right, let's let's listen a couple more times.
And so another part of me too with the whole tripping thing, like when I first heard this, I thought when I first heard this, I heard I thought tripping and then because I had and not just I we had talked through was there some sort of event that led to the escalation of people freaking out and where panic led to murder. Meaning, were were there some sort of bad drugs? Was somebody having a bad trip? Is is that the first event where a fight broke out and then there was a cleanup from that and then people did come back and murdered later? Right.
So, I don't know what what I hear because I hear of I hear what everybody's typing in. My ears seem to pick up whatever word I just read. That's why I didn't put any captions on here.
Obviously, we voted on it.
Um, so, right. Obviously, acid doesn't kill people. Who? No [ __ ] I'm not saying that acid kills people, but that's that's another reason why I was saying I don't know if it's true. I said when I originally heard it, I thought that that's what she said and we were talking about the drugs. But if I had to have voted, I would have said pregnant is what I hear pretty much. She says I did it. Who said Luna?
So, I'm going to play this one more time from start to finish. Original audio as well as the enhanced and I will be quiet.
Where she at?
>> Yep. Where she at? Where she at?
>> Where she at?
Where she at? Where she at?
Oh man, it's it's something. I don't know. It seems like it's something.
Does anybody ever heard like I I see a lot of people saying he's present?
I don't want to be mean, but I'm just saying if you look at patterns with Dylan, has Dylan ever said that in any other interview? Has is that how Dylan would talk? Is that part of the normal vocabulary that Dylan would maybe say?
You got to think through all these things, too. Again, we're not going to have a 100% agreeance on this um at all, but it is it is interesting for sure.
U people are saying it's nothing. Okay.
Yeah, that's fine. I don't know. Even if we heard one of those things, it's not like we're gonna know, right? Right. Like we're It's all so interesting to us because we don't have access to everything and it leads us to speculate, to guess, and to question things, right? This is a little bit different than what I showed from only available at not available with the girl walking up with latex gloves.
That video completely stole the stream in my opinion. It's the best thing that we have, I think, recently as the Idaho 4 community looking for the truth is is that should raise eyebrows. That 100% will raise more eyebrows than this enhanced audio. This is more just like, oh, that's interesting. What do you hear?
Um, and so I'm going to go through some of the super chats now again. Hi, please, please, please, please hit that like button, hit subscribe if you are not. I go live week nights at 7:00 p.m.
Central. Now, Lisa Longhorn from the UK, two months part of Hive Plus. Boomer said, "Two months and I'm still here."
Sammy and I love the Hive. These are our people. Amen to that.
Sweet PB, welcome to Hive Plus. Scouse House Girl said, "Hey, Birdie. Nearly missed the live but just made it. Busy working." Brad Harris said, "Birdie the goat. However, my emoji still don't work." Yeah, Mods. I've seen a couple people saying that. I don't know if that's anything we can fix or if maybe people are looking in the wrong spot.
Beth, welcome to High Plus.
Beth said, "Also, someone needs to look at Steve G based on those Crime Con interviews."
I'm sure that this is when that this super chat came in. Scouse House Girl, True Crime Forensics, said he has been drugged by his attorney because no one is allowed to speak to him apart from her. I sent it to you by email to check it out. What?
True Crimes Forensic said that not not himself. You're referring to Brian Cobberger. Okay.
So, True Crime Forensics said that Brian Cobberger has been drugged by his attorney because no one is allowed to speak to him apart from her. I sent it to you by email to check out. I have not seen that.
Look, and I appreciate the comment. I appreciate the email. I've not seen it.
My initial thought is, I mean, guys, don't get me wrong. I mean, we could we could complain about Ant Taylor all we want and I can wrap my head around that MK Ultra in inducing uh, you know, they would watch people through two-way mirrors at brothel as they tripped, right? Don't get me wrong, it's out there. But this case has, I guess, opened the door to like, oh, I could see that. But, I mean, are we really out here thinking that that maybe Brian Gberger's drugged?
I don't know. That's what's crazy is like when I read that I'm like what? But I don't know.
I don't know. They'll, you know, they've done crazy stuff. I don't feel like there's anything off the table for this government.
But yeah, if you've never looked, the CIA ran uh it was operation operation midnight climax or something.
If you look that up, they would dose people up with acid unknowingly while they were in brothel and wash them through a two-way mirror. It's insane what our tax dollars have funded here in the States.
Best of said, what's up? What's up? Two months strong. Thank you. Beyond reasonable doubt said WSU has has a hidden trick up their sleeve we haven't seen yet. If they didn't want to go to court, it wouldn't have made it this far.
Not a bad thought, Beyond Reasonable Doubt. I hope you're right. I wanted to go to trial for sure. Don't drink chunky milk said misdirection.
Wild Bill 56.98. What up? What up? Said who had more influence, family or defense on Brian Coberger?
That's a good poll question. I'm going to do that as a poll.
Who had more influence on?
And here we go. I'm going to say fam defense.
Who do you believe had more influence, the family or the defense on Brian Cobberger's decision to take a plea? One for family, two for defense.
And as you all are voting, UFO dog said Maggie the assistant to our HR Bellamishia said Maggie just clownhorned the G's. That's UFO dog's cat that likes to mod with UFO dog. Becky, welcome to Hive Plus. Natasha Hill said he's threatening Brian Cobberger referring to Steve G and that interview say he's going to get it in Genpop.
Thoughts loading in shock phase. Now I have to sing that every time. Said the hive is the right community to be in.
Cheers. Happy to be here. Thanks for what you do. Love from Kentucky. Thank you so much. Thoughts loading in shock face. And then you went on to gift two memberships. You rock. Thank you so much.
And hot girl Bummer said, "Thank you for that aerial view." Yeah. How how crazy is that aerial view when it really goes to show you just how small this campus area is.
And wow, we are about 50/50 on the poll.
Oops, I'll put it full screen.
So, it seems as if the family being 56% just pulled out ahead of the defense team as far as more influence that only had 44%.
But yeah, that aerial view really does show just how tiny that King Road area is from Sigmakai to 1122.
And hot girl bummer said Jack Dor's house or the suspect house at that corner on Taylor. Yeah, Jack D's house.
Um the direction assuming you're referring to only available at not available video which is this one right here right the direction they go in I think only available not available it's such a long name to say every time um I I believe he's spot on I believe he's spot on that is absolutely the the direction that she runs towards and I believe that the people I don't know where else they'd be coming out and it would make sense. And I'll play that again here at the end of the stream for anybody that missed it or wants to see it again. Thank you for the super chat. Hot girl bummer.
White Rabbit Jack Show Walter been tell been told y'all about them sority sisters. You have been in the chat say that White Rabbit. I will give you that. You have absolutely been calling that for a while.
Anxiety mosquitoes. Oh, that's right. We we said this um actually on the screen right now. If you look at the blurred photo on the on the left hand side, I can see I guess these are the same photos. Uh I can see why that would look like maybe a bloody bandage. But then when you look at the enhanced view, it is clearly a latex glove, not for self-tanning.
And anxiety mosquitoes, thank you so much for the big super chat goat award for that. The Holly Berry from the UK said, "Ask Jeff. He will have a good excuse for it." Yeah, I did. I think Jeff might have been offended when I said I didn't even have to say his name to summon him. I just had to say NPC. I hope I didn't hurt your feelings, Jeff.
And if I did, I'm very very sorry, brother.
I look, I don't know why I'm not even trying to bully the guy. I I can't I can't help it. It just I say this dude's name and I just I see red. I don't know what it is. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but I just Jasper the Jester said, "Yep, that's the girl. She changed her top, but she but she brightened." Oh, so you're saying you're saying this the girl that looks scared, Jasper, is this one?
Yeah. I'd have to I wonder what time this was taken at because do we we obviously this is probably a stupid question unless I've just completely missed it. We don't see this interaction with the police on the light bulb camera, do we?
Does that make sense? We that light bulb camera as far as what we would have gotten.
Do do they have the interaction on the porch with all them? And I'm sure if they did you we you know we're not hearing it. Um okay.
Yeah. People are saying no.
Wolfpack said, "I really hope Brian Cberger starts to speak and stand up for himself ASAP. This is outrageous. Also big congrats to you and Mrs. Birdie. So excited for our first hive baby." Yes, absolutely. Thank you for every from from me and Mrs. Birdie to you all for all of the well wishes and the congratulations. We appreciate it. It's always fun to see the comments from everybody. So, thank you to everybody that does leave a kind worded comment about our first little baby girl we're going to have in November. And I agree with you though, Wolfpack. Brian Coberger needs to stop being a oneman Wolfpack. Brian Coberger has to know that people are out here busting their ass trying to help him.
And he publicly, right, like we could speculate, but publicly we haven't seen anything. You could almost compare it to like statistically, right? It's you may be working it. What are the results that show if he is? We don't know. We just don't know. He could be behind the scenes, but we can't see him. So, I would like to think he is, but you know, he seems smart enough to be able to help himself, certainly from what we've read, but I don't know.
Pineapple Diana, good to see you. Said, "Law enforcement loves cool stuff on their desk. Brian Coberger interviewed could have touched it, saying, "Hey, were you in the Marines? When I first saw this video a while back, I knew this was sketchy, but I didn't know about the curtain rings." So, one, Pineapple Diana, you know what you just very beautifully did there?
You explained how somebody could have contact with an item in a very non-nefarious way, yet their trace DNA could show up on it at a quadruple murder scene. It's logical. Meaning, Brian Cobberger, he's a criminology student at WSU that partners with Washington State Police, Moscow police, everybody uses the CSI lab. So, who knows? It's very simple. Again, trace DNA proves contact. Trace DNA does not prove murder. Trace DNA doesn't even prove how the contact happened.
It's just, it's so crazy that people hear DNA and they lose their minds. They got him. Sorry. Sorry to tell you, Coberger did it. It's over. Yeah. Well, I can't crash out at the end of the stream here.
Ley Lou says Australian here. Did you see police? Ask them if they heard anything. They said no. But house is literally behind behind them them or behind them. Such lies. I agree. I don't know how you couldn't hear the dogs barking. I don't know how you couldn't hear the screaming when if I'm working from home and Mrs. Birdie takes our dog on a walk and I have the windows closed and my dog sees another dog. I can recognize my dog's bark. Wouldn't you think that Jack or somebody? I don't know for how long and loud Murphy barked and and you hear the comparative noise volume or like the the comparative volume of the noise is on 1112. That dog bark is one of the louder noises.
So you can hear a dog bark when you're inside, even if your windows are closed.
And it's a college house. It's made of paper. Go watch it get torn down. One sweep of the boom of a tractor takes it down like a house of carts. So, you know that those walls were paper thin. They could hear a dog barking. Now, this house, I don't know, it looks a little bit newer, maybe remodeled, but the surrounding houses, they got the super thin plain glass windows that are on the um in the apartment complexes all around. Some of the windows are open the next morning. Who's to say they weren't open during the night? Get a little bit of cold air in there while you sleep.
Who knows?
Scouse house girl said the only one that doesn't the only one that doesn't know what happened is Brian Cobberger.
I see what you did there. Scout House Girl. Very clever. And I think Brian most likely has an idea of how he's in this position. If I had to guess, I don't think he's not in the know. I know that Turvy said he hadn't seen everything. Chris Wickham said he did see everything. I just think given Coberger's background, I'd be and and the fact that it's his life on the line, I'd be surprised if he didn't.
Hot girl Bummer said 1122 and 1112 must have a secret passageway with a winky face.
I'll believe anything at this point.
I'm starting to believe that Banfield kid with the sunglasses on saying that he thought that the cop was a fake person. Were there any fake people out there? I've told this story on the stream in the past. The wildest email of a theory that I've ever got has actually claimed that the secret to all of this is that that Banfield kid was telling the truth and that alien forces, extraterrestrial forces that that kid actually saw all like it it was written and it wasn't it didn't seem to be sarcasm. I mean, it was typed out. They believe this. Lots of random I'm telling you, Birdie. And bro, I know this is what happened. And I just I need to go try to find that email and read it. Not to put that person on blast. I won't put their name in it. It was a long time ago, but it was I just remember thinking to myself like, Jesus, how do you even come up with this theory? But again, I might believe it. I might believe it.
I want aliens to be real very bad.
I think they are real.
I think it would almost be more terrifying if we were the only life form in this whole quote unquote galaxy or for some people in the hive under the dome amongst many other flat discs.
Right? It'd be weird if we're the only people in whatever this living space is that you choose to believe.
CGE 3333, thank you for the super chat. Appreciate that.
Oh god, I just saw uh Yah's daughter said, "Be careful what you wish for."
Oh, I don't know if it'd be terrifying or cool to be abducted by aliens. Julian AF said, "Not holding the shower curtain. It's towel with embroidery."
Yes, I agree. And I think even before the enhanced version, I would say this is a towel.
This looks like towels. Um, and I think I mean it picks up on it pretty clearly in the enhanced version here.
WTF? Who done it? AP, thank you for the super chat. And followed up with another super chat saying, I hear the officers ask where where is she? I think Dhole.
That just caught me off guard that you typed out Dillhole. Sorry, that dill hole is acting as if she thinks someone is still alive and she's kicking.
Where is she? Uh, I'll play that again.
Do you hear? Where is she?
Where's she at?
>> Yep. Where she at? Where she at?
Where she at?
Yeah, she >> now I listen to that. I'm like, I don't even know what I'm hearing anymore at this point because I've seen so many suggestions in the chat. I could hear all of them almost. But it's a good again it's it's a good I think discussion to have. It's it's interesting.
Juliet AF said, "Talk about the moon."
Oh, I will save this super chat for the end.
I'll play something. Okay, kids. So, not as dumb as you look.
Not as dumb as you look just said, "Is that Jack's sleepover buddy?" Okay, we've listened to the the the audio of his interview and stuff. Who do you Who do you all think that is? And what do you think sleepover? Obviously, I think we can all guess what sleepover buddy means, but do we believe that it's somebody that was close with the girls? I mean, is that what Chris Wickham is referring to that it was it there was something going on in that house and it wasn't that combination? Do you guys remember that?
If you watched my interview with Chris Wickham, we had asked about if certain I don't remember who we had asked. I think it was Kaye hooked up with somebody or Maddie hooked up with somebody and he's like, "Ah, not that combo. Could it be this?
Maybe."
And I just saw another comment to say that said uh birdie the super chat. I might have misinterpreted that. I apologize because the cop says, "Where's she at?" And then it's She's kicking. So, I apologize if I read that wrong. Uh, but I knew what you meant. And yeah, I think it's open for speculation still what you could hear.
But yeah, who's the sleepover buddy?
Ethan and Jack. Geez, a lot of people have said that. Bethany and Jack D. Oh, it was it was Suzie Hat.
That's right. Asked about Bethany and Jack D. Thank you. He said, "Not that combo.
My screen name said, "Was the knife Maddie used at a house from the house?"
Maybe I've said, and many people have said, "Did that knife sheath look so new because it was a knife that one of the girls had for protection?" I just don't see how you don't find a murder weapon in this case.
How do you not have the guy have conditions to get the if you're going to again bend him over the barrel and show him the 50 states as hard as you have, why would you not make the guy tell you why and where the clothes are, how he got in and out, how did he clean up, where's the murder weapon?
Do you know what I mean? That would have been one of the more reasonable things to require. Get the president asking the same question. But it's just I don't see how we don't know where the knife is is what where my brain goes to my screen name saying was the knife Matty used at a house from a house. Where is the knife that was used?
And Jennifer Buril said Dr. Turvy tasked to verify chain of custody after sheath questioned asked if he found other items with chain of custody issues. He said, "I can only comment on what is publicly disclosed." That's a reasonable question.
I'm so sick of hearing what's publicly disclosed.
That That tells us all we need to know, doesn't it?
I wouldn't be shocked if if everything came out publicly.
I would not be shocked if something entirely different happened. And I'm not just talking about an hour here or there in the timeline.
I'm talking entirely different whole different situation because one of the things that has really really been on my mind lately and I've tried to articulate this and I've tried to put it into words but it's if Brian Cobberger has been roadblocked at every step along the way thus far going back to the beginning of the narrative that they told targeted not targeted they're walking it back, right? All of the oddities that we've seen with the delay, the cleanup, where were they? Where were 50% of the victims being Ethan and Zana? We don't know. Nobody heard anything. They were killing their sleep. Nope. They were actually all awake. There's somebody's Apple Watch. Dylan's Apple Watch. He's moving up and down flights of stairs.
The dog's out. No, it's not. Yes, the dog's out. Was Murphy there? No, he wasn't. Did anybody know beforehand? Did you hear anything? Were there screams?
So, is that Brian Gober's white launcher? Is that suspect vehicle one?
Is that the undercover cop car? Guys, why are we to think that if they had a complete and utter cover story or if their narrative, let's just go willing say they were honest, which I don't believe that they were. But if you do believe that this is just a bad police work mistake through and through, if they messed up that bad or if they lied that badly, why are we to think that anything pertaining to that lie would be accurate? Why are we to think that it would even be done in the in the manner or the time that they said? Why are we to think that they would show us the real killer's car and just have the person they say inside of it is is the wrong guy on accident.
They they're so far off that it's not off the table to start seriously questioning why would we try to make the documents fit their story? Nobody's been able to do it yet.
Nobody has been able to piece I I'm telling you if somebody would have gotten a piece together through and through theory, everybody would know about it. If it would hit so hard for everybody that it would click for the overwhelming majority of people, like many cases do, many, many, many cases do, everybody would know about it. Everybody would have heard it, right? People have great theories. There are a lot of good ones out there, don't get me wrong. But there's a reason why there's still a lot of people quote unquote disagreeing.
Doesn't mean that we tear each other down. I mean that. I think that's the stupidest thing people do. We all want the same thing, but I disagree with your theory, so I'm going to [ __ ] on you.
It's the dumbest, lowest IQ thing you could possibly do if you're really out here to help.
But why are we to believe that? Again, maybe people get mad at that. We stick to the facts and this and that. It's like, no, you you might as well just start saying you stick to the words on the paper because there's a lot of things that are written on the paper that's like it's Swiss cheese at this point.
And I'm going to go ahead and play only available at not available this video for anybody that missed it.
Give it a couple seconds, he'll start talking.
Is this a shower curtain with rings to hang up? Just like in this example here, she has something covered under her blanket and is running over to Jagd's house. Although MPD is already there, now she's in a hurry. Crossing the street, she looks back once to see if anyone has seen her and went over to Jag's house at 12:14. Did she switch the shower curtain visible here at the white spot? because 2 minutes later she came back with two persons following her while three other persons went down the street looking behind the staircase and went up the stairs with what it looks like a freshly new shower curtain and it is Jack's house because it's the only possibility once she crossed the street it's the only house there so did she switch her own shower curtain shower curtain of the woman to King's house or the shower curtain of Jack D's house don't forget that they found red through it on the entry hallway at East One of the Kitchen in Jack's house. Shout out to Lexi who sent me this picture and hive. Do not forget that this upcoming Wednesday, Amber Vance will be live in the hive with us. We are going to be breaking down the Idaho 4K, specifically some of the new documents, broken plea. Amber knows the Greek life and the jacks inside and out. So, I'm very excited to learn from her on the stuff that she's dove into. She's already sent me a ton of screenshots, so there will be a bunch of vi uh visuals for that stream. That will be 700 p.m.
this upcoming Wednesday, June 3rd. Do not miss it. Amber's great. We spoke on the phone over the weekend, and I think we are all in for a great show. Going back to um what Juliet AF had said, I will do that right after I answer. not as dumb as you looks. Super chat saying, "But seriously, have we talked about the bromance of T and W? We have not talked about the bromance."
And I just don't know. I don't know.
Like I I to me the I understand the social dynamics, they absolutely matter.
Maybe that's a question for Amber. I think I think I've been open about that.
Um you know, knowing everybody's kind of the inner workings of the click. I mean, there's a lot of other people that really know that stuff. I know Bubbly knows that stuff. Amber knows that stuff. There's people in here that know that stuff. Rolo knows that stuff better than me. And I have no problem, you know, pointing you all in their direction because I don't know if I'm going to be able to give the best answer for it.
Um, but I will say I don't I don't know. Oh, I mean it bromance.
I I'm guessing I'm I think that I'm inferring it correctly what you're saying. I don't I wish I had a better answer.
I wish I had a better answer. Um so Juliet AF, here's how we will finish this stream. Hive, thank you all so much for tuning in. Please, please, please hit that like button, hit subscribe.
Tomorrow night, I got a great stream lined up for everybody. Obviously, Wednesday, we got Amber and then we will be doing our college show on Friday, which I'm already looking forward to.
And I'm going to go ahead and play this for Juliet AF. This is back in the the Tik Tok days.
>> God damn it. We live in a simulation.
Okay, everybody, go outside tonight.
Look at the moon. It's a map of the Earth and it lines up perfectly, but there's extra land. If you were to take a globe and flatten it out and put it on the moon and the dark spots on the moon, it lines up perfectly. And then you'll realize, oh, wait, there's extra dark spots. And then you start thinking about extraterrestrial. Well, what does extra mean? Extra means more. Terrestrial means land. Are aliens really just beings from the extra land that we don't know about because we are literally lied to about everything on this planet?
That's what I want to know. Phoenix, >> where the ice wall is.
>> God damn it. I'm going to give myself the trombone. You forgot about cuz we've been played.
>> I have a feeling that we have been hoodwinkedked.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And Mrs. Birdie just said, "Can you stop yelling? Your pizza's done.
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