Where Are The White Men Defending Ashlee Jenae?

Added: 2026-05-05

[00:00:00]love, >> misery, anger, um sadness. It's like a part of me has been taken away.

[00:00:08]>> We have not determined the cause of death yet at all. An investigation sold on on on doing so pinning right now. So there has nothing official has been released. That's what we're trying to find out. We just want answers.

[00:00:20]>> What was it that the hotel initially told you guys? the person that Joe McKinn who she was traveling with that he had found her and that they were they had taken her to the hospital.

[00:00:30]>> We just think it's very odd that our daughter traveling with Joe and we don't hear anything from Joe. To me that's very odd and initial call that she got from Joe was 11 hours after something had transpired in the room and that's very odd. 11 hours later, >> 11 hours, >> something had transpired and Joe just related to Yana that Ashley was okay and she was stable and she was okay and don't worry about it.

[00:00:59]>> But that she was at the hospital.

[00:01:01]>> Yes. 11 hours later.

[00:01:04]>> So, have you spoken to him since? And what has he been saying?

[00:01:09]>> There has been no communication.

[00:01:14]Continuing this conversation about Ashley Janae and her mysterious unaliving, I wanted to just um I wanted to just follow up on some of the latest details and then go into the larger discussion on whether or not white men should be advocating for Ashley Jana and why that question is even relevant. But before I do so, let's just um just do a deep dive of where we're at and then we're going to get into the larger question. So, here it says, "The new fiance of New Jersey influencer Ashley Jane is being quizzed about her death in Zanzibar, which came just hours after an explosive fight left them forced to stay in separate rooms."

[00:01:56]And so for those of you guys who do not know, the context of this mysterious unaliving is that evidently, you know, while she was on her dream trip and her fiance proposed to her, they had a fight that was so bad the officials or the people at the hotel actually had to separate them and put them in separate rooms. Now, what that means, what that looks like, you know, they didn't really go into a lot of details, but it was obviously pretty serious if the hotel staff had to get involved and put them um in separate quarters. Like, that's that's pretty that's pretty serious. And so, Joe McCain um 45 continues to be questioned by the police force and his travel document has been withheld. The Tanzania polace force or police force said in its latest update Tuesday. The influ influencers analying is related to a fight the newly engaged couple had at their hotel that was so severe hotel staff moved McCain to a separate room for their safety. The police statement confirmed, "Yeah, that's kind of a big deal. They had a fight that was so severe that the authorities had to get involved." That's a pretty important piece of evidence. Now, as we continue, it says McCain has said he returned with the security guard to check up on the influencer, also known as Ashley Robinson, and found her hanging from a door, her family said. Okay, so that isn't that to me already doesn't make sense. So, you guys have you guys have a fight that is so severe, people have to separate you, the authorities have to separate you, but then later on you go on to check on your fiance who you were arguing with with police officer or security guard rather. That doesn't make any sense to me. That just doesn't make any sense. And I'm like, and if the reason was, oh, he was checking to make sure she was safe. Um, I've been to Zanzibar before and the resorts that they're talking about are incredibly safe. Super safe, beautiful. Like, there's not a lot of criminality there.

[00:03:47]So, he wasn't concerned about her safety as far as um, you know, her being kidnapped or anything like that. like they're in a freaking beautiful island um in paradise surrounded by nothing but like beaches and um just nature. So why again was he going to check on her with a security guard? Like that this right here to me doesn't make sense. And and like I said, even understanding being Zanzibar myself and kind of understanding what it's like there makes it even less likely that he was concerned about her actual safety. In my op, this is into my opinion. The way I'm reading it, it said she died later in the hospital just a week after McCain had popped the question. Police confirmed that the death appeared to be a suicide and did not elaborate on why McCain was being questioned. Sources told the BBC that he was being questioned just as a witness and has not been accused of any wrongdoing. However, the woman's parents claimed that her daughter's fiance also alerted them to the tragedy 11 hours later and has since been vague about what happened. They also said they were struggling to get clear updates from Tanzanian authorities while challenging the idea that their daughter would unal alive herself basically. Early this month, McCain popped the question to Robinson who also celebrated her her birthday in April.

[00:05:01]And since then, Harry Robinson, um Ashley Jana's dad has since opened up a GoFundMe in order to try to help with the mounting cost and also I think to try to um launch a a a continual investigation into Tan Tanzania, Zanzibar, and actually see what happened. So, that's just a quick recap of where we're at. Basically, we found out, you know, before she mysteriously was unal alived or supposedly un alive herself before her sudden death, she had a dramatic fight with her fianceé that was so severe that they had to be separated and put in separate rooms.

[00:05:39]That happened just like the day before, right? Or shortly before that. And then she ends up mysteriously un alive. So that is the context. And also based upon her own family, McCain has been very quiet. He has not he has not talked to them at all since she's died. She's he's been completely um there's been no communication. So that's even more suspicious because to me, anybody who was in love with a woman and you are proposing to that woman and you are now saying, "Hey, I want, you know, we're going to come together and unity. Our family's going to come together." Like, god forbid you lose the love of your life. You're not going to try to separate yourself from their family.

[00:06:21]Like especially if you were on good terms with them. It didn't sound like the family had any negative words towards him or they didn't have any animosity. If you're in good terms with the family, you would want to be in constant communication with them. You would want to be trying to support each other. You would be wanting to try to find out answers yourself. So, um just to me personally, his behavior seems a little bit strange. But here is the bigger question around this whole thing.

[00:06:48]we know what the officials have said or what some of the official reports have said. Now, if you guys know anything about um you know countries like Tanzania or Zanzibar, it is not uncommon for the official report to be determined by who was the highest bidder. Quite frankly, um I would not be surprised if McCain who had a lot of money paid somebody off and said, "Hey, this please make sure this is the official story."

[00:07:12]That is not outside of the the that is not outside of the realm of possibility.

[00:07:16]Now, I don't know for sure. We we we don't know for sure. This is all speculation. But what I'm saying is I wouldn't necessarily take what the authorities are saying at face value without doing my own investigation when you understand that unfortunately a lot of those authorities out there are are are paytoplay unfortunately. So, they might have to pay a few dollars to actually get the truth. And I am glad they're going out there to do their own investigation to get to the bottom of things. But with that said, one of the reasons the story was so viral and I think one of the reasons the story has gotten a lot of traction is is um again the the the context surrounding their relationship and their story. See, Ashley Jana was a soft life divesture, right? She was a black woman who promoted a soft life through divesting, specifically through divesting and dating and marrying white men. like that was her claim to fame.

[00:08:12]She was very much about leveling up through proximity and closeness to white men. She was advocating for white men um for that lifestyle. And so when I ask, okay, so do white men and should white men come to the defense of ask Jane, this is a serious and I think this is a legitimate question because see the thing about divesting and about the divest movement is the whole idea is okay, I'm going to leave the black community. I'm going to leave blackistan. I'm going to leave all of the black trauma, whatever that you associate with blackness, and I'm now going to leave the struggle bus, leave the struggles, and now integrate myself into this other community. To which I would say, okay, fine. That's that's completely okay. I think everybody has the right to do that. But now, what does that mean? If you were integrating into a white community, you're a black woman coming from a black context. You have essentially or are essentially choosing to reject your community or at the very least the men of your community. So what does that mean about your now communal the support that you're going to get?

[00:09:18]What does that mean with the way that you're going to be treated? What does that mean with the way you're going to be advocated for? And so these are all the questions that I think not only are they relevant questions to think about even if you are wanting to you know dab if you wanted to dabble into that movement but especially in a time like this where this would be a time where Jana's real community would be advocating for her would be at least speaking out for her would be doing what they can if nothing else making noise.

[00:09:47]This would be a time where they would really be going hard in the paint trying to make sure she gets justice, right?

[00:09:55]And see what happens particularly in the white community when they're ready to rally around something or when they're ready to get something done, they'll pass laws. Think about that example that happened just a few months ago where you had that white immigrant woman. She was a Ukrainian woman who was fatally, you know, unalived by a black man in the BART. They you had all kinds of white political commentators, white male commentators saying all kinds of things advocating for her. You know, the Matt Walshes of the world, the Tucker Carlson's of the world. I mean, you had people um of all backgrounds. You had you had prominent white American men who were very vocal about how heinous this crime was. They took this so seriously that they passed a bill, Ireina's Law, which was passed on October 3rd, 2025, and it took effect in December last year. They passed a bill over the tragedy surrounding this white immigrant woman. By the way, she wasn't even American born. She was a white immigrant woman. So, I'm saying that because, you know, when white people um when they have things that are serious, right, and when there are things that um are are close to their heart, they're going to rally together and, you know, if push comes if push comes if push comes to shove, they will pass laws and create laws to ensure that their needs are being met, that their voices are being heard. And so Ashley Jana being someone who openly advocated for being with white men and was very open about or wanted to be with white men, I'm curious why I'm not seeing the same level of support. I'm curious why I'm not seeing the same level of outrage. I'm curious as to why I'm not seeing the same level of consistent anger and rage that you saw in the case of like of of Ireina like you saw in the case of the white immigrant woman. Like why don't why am I not seeing the same energy for Ashley Jana by these white men that she advocated for? I think y'all already know the answer to that.

[00:11:55]Okay, but this brings up a really important question. this entire scenario, as tragic as it is, she did not deserve to go in the way that she did. I understand that she said things that were very controversial, particularly about black men. I don't advocate and I don't support those things, but nevertheless, she did not deserve to go the way that she did.

[00:12:14]However, the reality is, you know, when black women when they do, you know, stake their claim and when they do make these really public service announcements, there are consequences with that. And I do think we I do think it's important for us to understand in 2026 the way race still operates. And one of the critiques that I have for the divestment, well, I have many critiques, but one of the main critiques I have for the divestment space is the way in which it it in my opinion refuses to acknowledge the reality of race today.

[00:12:46]It it gives black women the illusion that they can escape their black reality simply by sleeping with white men. And in order to believe that, you just you you would have to overlook history and you would have to actually overlook historical trends to believe that's the case. Like there are black women who believe that their black girl magic and their queen ebony goddess skin is going to keep them from experiencing any of the challenges associated with being black in the west.

[00:13:13]And that's just not true. You can you can be sleeping up there with a white man all day every day and still unfortunately be unal alive at the hot hands of white supremacy, right? or just being alive at the hands of a white dude who gets who gets sick of you. You know what I mean? Like that can that can still that can still happen. And the thing about it is it's the thing about it is a lot of people including myself are not reacting to the interracial component in and of itself. I don't care and I think most people don't really care if somebody is in an interracial relationship and they're happy and they're living their lives and they're and they're really truly genuinely building a life together and building a family together. No one generally speaking has a problem with that. You may have a few people here and there, but I think by and large that's not really pressing anybody. The issue becomes if and when that is done as a way to promote antilackness and if and when that is done to also pedestalize white men or idolize white men in a way that can be very dangerous. And that is something I consistently see being done and the soft life movement and the divestment movement. And the the sad thing about all of this is that, you know, a lot of women who get pulled, many black women who get sucked into thinking that a white man is going to be the ticket out of their either poverty or ticket out of their struggle life, fail to recognize that the adoration that they have for white men is oftentimes one-sided. And I think this is a prime example of here is a beautiful black woman, a very attractive black woman. There are plenty of black men just off aesthetics alone who would love to have been with her, right? Um, so you have a beautiful, prominent black woman, decided to divest for whatever reason, okay, didn't have the best things to say about black men. She had very positive things about she had ultimately positive things to say about white men and was open about wanting to be with white men. But now when it comes to a point where she needs to be advocated for or defended, they're nowhere to be found.

[00:15:05]And to me, that is, I think, one of the most damning things about this movement.

[00:15:10]And I recognize there are still some ladies out there at the end of the day who are not going to care. They're going to see this and they're going to, you know, allow to go in one ear, out the other, because they are dedicated to their white knight fantasy. And that's completely fine. I also understand that there are some black women who are going to look at this and somehow blame Germaine because they still want to be with a white man. That's fine. They still want to believe what they want to believe, not not necessarily about a white man, but about the white fantasy.

[00:15:34]That's fine. But I do think for those of the for those people who are actually aware and want to see things for what they are, then this to me is just a reminder of how race still works in America. I'm not saying that interracial relationships are bad. I think most people inherently don't see a problem with it, particularly in America, particularly in 2026. I think we also just get to be honest though about what that means. Particularly if you're looking at a white guy, if you're looking at a non-black guy as your ticket out of your life, it becomes really dangerous to me when ladies start using these things as a way to try to, you know, as a way to try to um improve their life. That's to me when it gets dangerous. It's one thing if you happen to fall in love with somebody just naturally you met at work, college, y'all were in the same group, church, whatever. Like to me that's way different than you've now decided that you need your white man to have a soft light. Completely different context. One to me is natural and organic. It can be very healthy and fulfilling. Another one to me is very dangerous and unfortunately can have you ending up on the news. And we've covered off so many stories of this and we continue to cover off stories about this. And I continue to talk about this cuz I'm like, "Hey ladies, we have to understand, we have to understand that this soft life, this soft life um story is not always what it seems. I understand some black I understand black people have black trauma with black folk. I I understand that. Like that's real.

[00:17:02]I would encourage people instead of being quick to completely alienate yourself from your own community and to completely write off your own community.

[00:17:12]That is better to deal with that and to keep healthy relationships even if you do decide to date outside of your race because unfortunately in cases like this um your real community is going to be the people who stand by you. And in America, in the United States of America, race is still something that a lot of white folks, not all of them, but race is still something that that a lot of white folks are going to rally behind before anything else. And we see that in this case, right? But anyways, y'all, that's that's that's my thoughts. What do you think about this whole thing? Let me know your thoughts down in the comment section. Thank you so much for listening if you've gotten this far and we'll talk later. Bye.