animal eater shockingly doesn't believe in morals

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[00:00:00]Okay, so so you don't agree in like showing mercy towards sort of sentient beings.

[00:00:05]Um, yeah.

[00:00:07]I don't.

[00:00:08]Okay, would would would you apply this to other animals if it was like a dog for example?

[00:00:14]Uh, why would I even go and eat a dog?

[00:00:18]Like What what why not? If if it tastes good? It does not taste good. No, it does not taste good. That's why.

[00:00:25]>> Okay, so so you're basing on the way it tastes.

[00:00:28]Yeah, that's all. It's totally on taste.

[00:00:31]>> taste buds are more important uh, than than than life.

[00:00:37]Indeed. Right, so [snorts] >> Obviously uh, there are some consequences if I eat a baby. Let's suppose I'm consuming a human. Okay, let's suppose I'm I'm going I'm going to kill a human and then I'm going to consume that. Listen, listen, listen. If I'm going to do that, obviously I'm going to face the consequences which the which the society has constructed. But meanwhile consuming the animal The reason that you don't eat humans is because of the consequences, is that right?

[00:01:00]Yeah, like what?

[00:01:03]Did you say the reason that you don't eat humans is because of the consequences?

[00:01:07]Yeah, and I don't know how they're going to taste. And obviously this this thing with the society has done to me that like killing humans is quite evil. So obviously my natural instinct is not going to allow me to do that.

[00:01:20]Okay, I mean I'm I'm kind of glad that you you choose not to kill a human to eat it, I guess.

[00:01:28]Obviously I'm Wait, but wait there.

[00:01:30]>> very good thing. Right?

[00:01:33]>> It sounded like if they did taste nice and if there weren't consequences, you'd find it justified. Is that true? Yeah, I I I sense that as well. Is that true, Mark?

[00:01:43]Oh, okay, then >> Yeah, the the thing is listen listen to what I have to say. Trying to reason with someone who'd be a cannibal if they could get away with it. Yeah, listen to what I have to say first. Yeah, thank you thank you.

[00:01:52]>> obviously I'm Thank you cuz there's non-vegans in here. So when someone admits that they'd be a cannibal if they could get away with it and someone tasted nice, I mean, there you go. Why waste any more time?

[00:02:02]>> You haven't really got any morals in this situation, so it's Obviously, I did agree. Like, first my argument was the conditioning, obviously. The society has conditioned conditioned me in a certain way when I was child. That's why I don't uh consume the humans, and it is quite something already integrated inside of my brain. But, when it comes to the animals, obviously, the society has done nothing. So, obviously, why not I could consume them?

[00:02:28]Okay. So, so that's what I'm trying to talk to you about now, right? Right? So, uh we can we can show mercy on these animals because they're sentient beings, right?

[00:02:38]>> I agree with you. To be honest, it's a good so.

[00:02:42]Okay.

[00:02:43]Really, you had a few justifications why you wouldn't show mercy, and one of them's was was taste.

[00:02:50]You said the taste would would justify not showing mercy.

[00:02:55]>> [clears throat] >> Like, I told you earlier, let's uh society has allowed me that to do that thing, and obviously the conditioning as well, so that's my reason.

[00:03:06]There's nothing I could do about it.

[00:03:07]There's also things you can do about it.

[00:03:10]You can choose not to not to do it, right?

[00:03:13]You could choose not to do it.

[00:03:14]>> like, why I could not do it?

[00:03:16]Do you really want to be the person who's like, I do things because society says it's acceptable? Because that it would just mean you'd be a person if it were were acceptable to cannibalize humans who have been farmed, you'd be doing it. Do you want to be that person?

[00:03:31]Um things, uh listen, when I introduced argument argument of the society, I meant I actually meant I never going to face any sort of consequences eating animal by the society. That's supposed I'm doing the same with the human. We're circling We're circling back to the fact that if you didn't have any consequences, you would consume the flesh of humans who have been farmed, wouldn't you?

[00:03:57]>> No, I never said that. I never said that. Obviously, there's a sense of connectivity with the humans, but when it comes to animals, there's none.

[00:04:03]>> Okay, so it's a different claim. Okay, so you have to be familiar with an individual in order to not pay for them to be sent to a farm?

[00:04:11]Obviously. Okay, so >> a difference in the humans and the animals. Both are different things. You could not just put them in the same category. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[00:04:19]>> could Wait, what's the morally significant difference?

[00:04:24]Morally?

[00:04:27]Uh, here's the thing. To be honest, uh I don't believe in morals, in morals.

[00:04:33]>> Oh, I'm noticing. Yeah, I'm noticing.

[00:04:35]Well, you're talking to vegans. That's an applied ethic. We are in the world of reality, um, and morality. So the fact you're kind of not you're not like completely dismissing the idea of consuming humans if you could like not have any consequence is is kind of a big tell, okay?

[00:04:56]I never said that the obviously consequences and the conditioning that society has done >> Yeah, so remove those. Remove those.

[00:05:04]>> Remove those and you can keep consuming them. Yeah, remove those and you can keep consuming Yeah, remove those and you can keep consuming farmed humans.

[00:05:11]Yeah.

[00:05:12]>> And it's like normal. It's just you see, you have bounded yourself with some moral, immoral. That's what is stopping you to eat the animals and the humans.

[00:05:21]I really don't want to take advice from someone about behavior when you're going to tell me that the only thing stopping you from consuming farmed humans is some conditioning and consequence from society.

[00:05:34]>> Obviously. Yeah, that's just a speaker of truth, my dude. Just condition a newborn baby.

[00:05:40]Just condition a newborn baby in a certain way that you would going to consume the humans as well. And believe me, you're going to find nothing bad in it in the future. So, it's all about the conditioning the way the guy brought up.

[00:05:54]I have no no idea what you're saying.

[00:05:57]Yeah, that's what I mean. No, you need to stop going as well. This has nothing to do with Uh you would consume a humans if if society did it. Was that right?

[00:06:06]I never said that. I never said that. I got you to clarify I got you to clarify twice.

[00:06:12]You know what I'm saying?

[00:06:14]Society has conditioned us as humans in a certain way that we have some kind >> Hang on. Can you just one at a time one second? Like You've now said something that sounds counter to what you were saying before.

[00:06:28]Do you want to connect it like what I what did I say?

[00:06:31]It seemed that you were saying if there wasn't a social consequence and if you weren't conditioned to think it wrong, you would be in favor morally of consuming farmed humans. Are you now saying that that's not true?

[00:06:47]I am still I am still.

[00:06:49]And this thing is like everything. And this thing is what I have to say.

[00:06:53]Listen, listen, listen to what I have to say. Conditioning is like everything.

[00:06:56]Let's suppose there's a kid a newborn kid and you have conditioned him in a certain way that he is fine with like in a way that he is fine with the consuming humans. And to be honest, after growing up, he would find like no bad thing. You know, nothing bad in it.

[00:07:11]And that will happen in the in the history as well. Okay, just just be quiet. Just be quiet. Just be quiet.

[00:07:17]Just be quiet. Just be quiet. Just be quiet.

[00:07:20]Just be quiet. Just be quiet. Just be quiet.

[00:07:23]Yeah, be quiet. Be quiet. I just want to clarify. So, in your view, if that baby has been conditioned to consume farmed humans and pay for their flesh, would you think they're doing something wrong?

[00:07:41]Well, I mean, no. He's not doing anything wrong. But after they're going to pay the consequence Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[00:07:46]Before we jump off, right? I think the understanding here, yeah, the understanding but the point is, right? In exactly the same way you are conditioned to eat meat right now, right? And >> Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, right?

[00:08:03]You are conditioned to eat meat.

[00:08:05]But you don't have to.

[00:08:09]I don't have to what? Not do it. There's options. You can show mercy to the animals, right?

[00:08:18]Do you understand?

[00:08:18]>> I am conditioned in a way that I don't have to show mercy. What's now?

[00:08:24]What's that?

[00:08:26]I am saying I am conditioned in a way that I don't show any mercy to them.

[00:08:31]There's no concept of mercy for me.

[00:08:32]Exactly. So you're not wrong in that you are seeing them as objects, right?

[00:08:40]And the >> [clears throat] >> Who's the actual culprit? It's me or the society who uh conditioned me in this certain way? Who is it? Or the belief system which I possess?

[00:08:52]Yeah, but there's somewhat somewhat somewhat in agreement. Yes, society has been somewhat partly responsible for your thing, but it doesn't justify that it's wrong, right? This isn't a justification. There's things as humanity that we've been conditioned to think is morally incorrect that we don't agree to now, such as slavery, such as things in the past that we did, like killing women and saying they were witches. There's lots of things that humans have done in in and conditioned to think is is okay to do that we look back on and say that is wrong. And you right now, right? If I said to you, is slavery okay?

[00:09:32]Do you think it's okay to enslave someone? Slavery You You what I believe.

[00:09:36]With the the belief system they also evolve.

[00:09:42]Slavery might be bad in the history. You know slavery might be good in the history but right now it is quite bad.

[00:09:48]Will you stop talking waffle is it good or bad to enslave a human being yes or no?

[00:09:55]What? Can you can you just Is it good or bad to enslave a human being yes or no?

[00:10:00]>> People rape people. I literally gave my argument like more than three times. And you must Totally nothing in your life. Master when you waffle on we can't actually hear you it's very muffled so can you just answer the question plainly?

[00:10:17]I have like already done more than three times. Right can you just Is it good or bad to enslave a human being?

[00:10:24]It is good to enslave a human being why not?

[00:10:28]All right can we be done now like seriously?

[00:10:31]>> Okay I'll enslave you first.

[00:10:33]There's no [ __ ] way.

[00:10:35]I wonder if the other non-vegans agree with this guy or do they have like a different take?

[00:10:42]Master what about if it was you in that situation if I was enslaving you would that be okay?

[00:10:48]There's nothing I could do obviously if you have the power You're not being asked that.

[00:10:56]This is why You are fake news. There's nothing I could do.

[00:11:01]You're not being asked you're not being asked what you could do.

[00:11:06]Do you need the the question asked again? This is a hard to take though. Oh like honestly like Oh Oh That was going to be Oh no oh no oh no.

[00:11:17]Oh no anyway.