Heresy? Pope Leo Nukes Just War Theory - The Mike Church Show

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[00:03:32]Well, if if Oman doesn't do uh what I told him to do, then I guess we'll have to bomb him.

[00:03:45]I saw a report on CNN yesterday saying that Trump is now threatened to either bomb, invade, annex, take over all but 13 countries of Earth.

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[00:06:29]There was a technical difficulty. there was uh there was no way to get the actual newscast today and so I didn't want to run yesterday's.

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[00:07:18]I wonder and I really wonder about this and if I had the time maybe I would do it. I wonder how long the montage of sound bites would be if you strung together every instance of President Trump saying Iran can't have a nuke.

[00:07:40]They're not getting a nuke. They can't have a nuke. And that's what we've been saying. They can't have a nuke. If you strung if you could find every time he has said that publicly and you put them all together end to end, I wonder how long of a tape that would make.

[00:08:00]It probably would be up into the hours.

[00:08:05]So this is when you know there's a book on my shelf in there. Well, actually, you know, it's not on the shelf. It's in storage. It should be on the shelf and because it's a go-to book. It's called the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations.

[00:08:19]If you have and the they would update it pretty much every 5 years or so. So, you might have a Oxford dictionary quotations book and it may have been volume 12 or 14. I don't remember what volume mine was. I bought it like 1992, 1993. But I do remember the book was this thick. And what it was was before there was the interwebs and before you could go and uh brave search or Google search for whatever it was that you're looking for that someone may have said, you know how you had to get it previously? You had to go to a library.

[00:08:58]Imagine this.

[00:09:00]You had to go to a library.

[00:09:04]You might even had to go to the card catalog and then you'd have to go like, "Okay, well, who am I looking for a quote from?" Um, if you knew the sources, just say it was Shakespeare.

[00:09:13]Uh, but you're going, "Yeah, but I don't remember." Wait, was it uh was it was it Romeo and Juliet? Was it The Tempest?

[00:09:21]Was it Midsummer Night's Dream? I don't remember. You might have to go through through and then start reading Shakespeare books and hopefully it'd have an index at the end and then you could look the word up. So, in any event, if you were looking to quote someone and you didn't have your own library, you'd have to go to an actual library. Well, the Oxford dictionary of quotations kind of provided a tool for that and it collected quotations. I mean, going all the way back to to to Genesis practically. No, it did go back to Genesis. And it was fully indexed and fully crossarchable and it had a theserus in it or thesaurus. So, it didn't matter what you were looking for, you could probably find a quote in the 800 pages of the Oxford dictionary. The reason I bring it up is because that quote is going to be Trump's quote in the Oxford dictionary.

[00:10:17]Iran can't HAVE A NUKE. I'VE BEEN saying it for 47 years. You're not going to have a nuclear bomb. They're their nuclear programs obliterated. That one's going to be in there, too. um because he rep he repeated it about six times yesterday because different reporters kept asking him questions and then the subject of the Middle East and the squalor just the disastrous state of affairs that it's currently in mostly of his currently of his making came up again and so apparently if there is to be a reopening of the straight of Horamuz the people of the the the the leadership of the country of Oman on apparently have said something to the effect I didn't see it but I'm just filling the gap in from what he said apparently have it says something to the effect that well you know the Gulf of Oman empties into the Persian Gulf and we have a say so in this it's our Gulf it's named for us and this of course made the mad man of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue WELL WELL IF IN I GUESS we'll have to bomb them I guess we'll have to teach him a lesson or whatever the thing was.

[00:11:32]There doesn't seem to be anyone. You know, the only country that the the 13 countries that we haven't threatened to invade, take over, annex, bomb, replace their president, regime change, or what have you. I didn't get the list of countries, but I'm now I'm just thinking out loud, who's on it. England, Likenstein. You know what? It's probably the little countries. Monaco, Likenstein, um Belgium, uh what are the other ones?

[00:12:06]San Marino, which is still part of it looks like it's part of Italy, but it's not. So, and any uh event, we will bring this up as the program unfolds in front of your very ears. What else is going on here today? Um, just going through the the stack.

[00:12:27]Pope Leo.

[00:12:30]Okay, I'm still reading my way through Humanitas dignitus or humanitatis dignatus or dignitus or dignatus the encyclical on AI which is turning out to be a encyclical and a re referendum if you will or a um wait you bring someone to a close uh a suns setting of several millennia old Catholic doctrines. Just war theory is one of them. So I thought that this was just fascinating that someone would do this and it involves AI.

[00:13:23]So Eric Sammons, the editor of Crisis magazine and one Peter 5 uh posted on his ex, yes he's back on X now on his ex yesterday that he had read Michael Pakolix Substack about Magnifica Humanitatis the uh the encyclical from uh from Pope Leo. Um, and what Pullik the the the signal thing that Pullik has added to the debate is that he grabbed the encyclical when it first came out soon as they said it was going to come out like 9:00 a.m. Rome time the on Monday or Tuesday. He went and grabbed it immediately, downloaded it, got the English version of it, and then fed it into the clawed AI, and then he asked the clawed AI to prepare an analopey.

[00:14:26]Now, the interesting thing about it is is that Claude would not have had much of an opportunity, if any opportunity at all, to uh aggregate what other people were saying about Magnifica Humanitat or Humanitas, the encyclical uh because it was so fresh. So, in other words, no one would have completed reading it. So they wouldn't have an analysis on it or a commentary on it or any or or anything of the sort uh because it was too new.

[00:15:05]So then um uh the the clawed AI would have to rely upon what it already knew about Catholicism. In other words, it couldn't be tainted by what it would learn by from other people saying this and that and the other about Magnifica humanitas.

[00:15:25]So he fed it into Claude. He gave it a series of instructions.

[00:15:34]He said, "I gave Claude this prompt.

[00:15:36]Suppose you were looking at this text as if it were a draft and you were asked to assess it critically from the point of view of a sound Catholic well-educated person.

[00:15:50]List all of the issues you would flag for revision from most egregious to least.

[00:15:58]And then he said, "Okay." Claude cranked the list out. After that, I prompted it to add other items which I had noticed.

[00:16:06]list varies in the strength of the criticisms, but arguably all of the criticisms crit criticisms are at least apparent problems and ought to have been addressed in a rewrite and the list can claim a certain objectivity be because of the broad range of views already incorporated into the AI uh inference. So uh and then he says no what is found below is the list that claw the list that claw generated given the constraints and conditions mentioned above. So, lo and behold, what was the most egregious thing the AI that read the encyclical thought was in it? And it doesn't have anything to do. What what an irony. And hey, the the the encyclical Magnific Magnifica Humanitas is supposedly about, you know, a warning shot across the bow uh to the rest of Earth about the dangers of AI and about humanity being eclipsed by artificial intelligence and and and what have you, things that you already know. But just the irony of that. Okay. So, we fed an actual AI your document on AI and it came back and it said you are the one that is in the mo the most egregious of errors that you have committed maybe and some people make come to this conclusion a heresy most egregious.

[00:17:44]the just war doctrine is effectively repudiated.

[00:17:49]Now, this just follows right along the the line, doesn't it? First, you have Pope Francis basically saying that the death penalty is inadmissible. Well, not according to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John and every witness and the Jewish historian uh Josephus who all recorded that Jesus of Nazareth was exeu executed by the the political public legal authority of Jerusalem under the time under the rule of Caesar Augustus and this was a capital punishment was carried out against Christ himself.

[00:18:25]Christ even says, "If you would do you not think that if I wanted to, I couldn't just summon an army of angels and get out of this and have this whole thing kind of come to an end." So, how could you then say that, and I don't want to rehash this too much, just making a point. How could you then say that and the death penalty is inadmissible? Can't be. Can't be. Too much history. Church has already taught on it. It supported it for for two millennia. You can't just go like, "Yeah, well, I don't like it, so I'm wiping it out." Um, this is not how the papacy is supposed to work. Uh, my understanding of it anyway. Same thing with just war theory. You can't just say, "Well, everyone from oran and Augustine to most recently whatever the last great Jesuit scholar that wrote about it was, they were all wrong. So, I think that they're wrong. We're not having just wars anymore. We're just going to eliminate all wars or not call them wars. So just war theory is repudiated.

[00:19:25]You can't do that. There's seemingly you can't do it.

[00:19:30]Here's what Claude said about it. This is the gravest problem in the document.

[00:19:35]I have to ask the question, why are you going after just war theory in a document about AI and about human magnificence?

[00:19:45]The encyclical states flatly that the just war theory quote is now outdated close quote. This is not a development of doctrine. It is a rupture with it.

[00:19:55]Just war teaching is embedded in Augustine Aquinus the Council of Trent and the Catechism of the Catholic Church. How is it that the AI actually knows the catechism 2307 through 2317?

[00:20:08]But apparently Pope Leo doesn't which explicitly states conditions under which war is morally listenit and even obligatory for the defense of innocence.

[00:20:20]The footnote attributes his position to fatalituti. Uh but Francis there speaks cautiously. He's talking about speaking of Pope Francis speaks cautiously about the difficulty of meeting just war conditions in modern warfare. He does not declare the tradition quote outdated close quote. The present encyclical goes materially further than its cited source and in doing so contradicts the catechism and the entire moral tradition. A Catholic reader must act.

[00:20:53]Is the church now a pacifist institution? If so, how does one square this with its canonized soldiers? Yeah.

[00:21:02]Wouldn't this then just kind of repudiate St. Martin of Tours.

[00:21:07]I'm just one example.

[00:21:11]What about the um oh gosh, the Thian Legion? What about the the martyrs of Sebasta? The ones that were frozen, the soldiers that were frozen on the lake.

[00:21:24]Uh how does one square this with its canonized soldiers, its veneration of crusader orders? So this means that the crusades are now inadmissible and we can't talk about them anymore.

[00:21:35]It's consistent teaching that the state has the right and duty to defend its citizens. The document offers no answer because it does not acknowledge the question. Furthermore, the argument given that the that just war theory quote has all too often been used to justify any kind of war close quote is a two quoqua or quoquay without philosophical weight. The same could be said of uh virtually every moral doctrine. The doctrine of double effect has been used to justify atrocities. The fact that a teaching has been misapplied does not render it outdated.

[00:22:11]The argument is invalid and its invalidity is especially visible to anyone trained in moral philosophy.

[00:22:18]And that's what Claude says about Magnifica Humanitas.

[00:22:27]And AI has a valid criticism of an encyclical about the invalidity of AI as a tool to replace humans or as something that is standing alongside is the equal to uh the magnificence of the human being.

[00:22:56]It's all really confusing, isn't it?

[00:23:00]Does anyone else get the sense that the further away that we get from the the kickstart moment of the modern era that the worst things become and the less clear and the less focused they become and that the answers are seemingly oh wait a minute now.

[00:23:22]How you square that with this?

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[00:30:29]I had a piece a couple of days ago that I did not get to.

[00:30:37]I had read it and I thought it was um I thought it was spot on but I didn't get to it. It's by Jude Russo at the American Conervative by the way just time out on that.

[00:30:56]Can someone tell me, and I'm genuinely asking here because I don't follow Texas politics close enough to have to be an expert on this, and this is not a defense of John Cornin because I wouldn't couldn't I'm like uh Dr. Seuss. I'm like the Cat in the Hat.

[00:31:17]I would not endorse him on a train, Sam.

[00:31:19]I am I would not endorse him with ham.

[00:31:22]Um, can someone tell me what the conservative bonafites are of Ken Paxton?

[00:31:39]What little that I do know from following Texas politics about him is that he um well, he doesn't seem like he's a party loyalist and that he has no um he didn't have any uh hesitation in calling out or ratting out or throwing under the bus members of the Texas Republican establishment. And um I and I'm just I'm just trying to figure out now I and I may recall a thing or two that he said that he would defend if Greg Abbott the governor would did them would have done them did them did done them and that he represented the state and in in some court cases and he was on the right side of it. But I think this is a genuine problem and an issue here.

[00:32:32]People that are the actual conervatives and are trying to conserve something don't appear to be considered or regarded as conservatives.

[00:32:42]Now this is not a this is not a new problem. This is an old problem that you know I started identifying back in 2006 even before I got religion on foreign policy. I was asking a question. Can you tell me exactly what it is that Dennis Denny Hastard, for example, former speaker of the house and then discovered to be a pervert of what Dennis Hastard adds to the conervative cannon c anybody? Buler Tom delay same question. Ber it seems as though you know it doesn't seem as though it is the transformation of the citizen legislator into a professional CEO of his own little corporation or hers and the transformation of a representative little R republic featuring a republican form of government is now complete. It's been complete for a while. Um, but it's now so complete that we are actually defending now as conservative the perversion of the whole thing as basically a business model for people that can raise enough money and con enough people to work their way into public office. I don't think that's conservative. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that that's not um why would party loyalty make one a conservative?

[00:34:31]This is the question that Russo was asking the other day at the American Conservative. Now you remember the day after mass he lost the Tory anarchist Daniel McCarthy who could not wait to get his pen his fingers on a keyboard and a word processor so that he could crank out his dislike of and his dismissal of all things Thomas Massie and that Massie got what he deserved and other people like Massie ought to get what they deserve and that there's no place in the conservative ranks in the modern Republican party under Trump or people like Massie and this and that and the other. Well, I have to ask the question, if there is no place for people like Massie, but Massie was elected, then where was there or is there a place for him?

[00:35:20]Anybody want to tackle that one?

[00:35:22]Because seemingly to me, if you ask me, the conservative position is the historically um American position.

[00:35:35]That's when it was closer to the end of Christendom. Um and it retained some of the graces and values that came along with it. Those are almost all gone now.

[00:35:47]I mean, there are some smoldering remnants of them, but nothing, you know, YOU DON'T HAVE anyone in public life that I know of that would endorse a 1960 version of Barry Goldwater, for example.

[00:36:08]Shortly after that, Ronald Reagan comes out with uh what do they call the the the the talk the the the album that he made against social security and as they were talking about Medicare and he's going like this isn't this isn't going to work the way they say it's going to work. Social Security according to the controller, Mr. Buyers, is already broke. Um to say nothing, if you go back a little further, Mr. Republican uh Taft, Senator Taft, there is no one left that you would call a a traditional conservative in that in in in that realm. As a matter of fact, since the 1960s, you know, the the arc is is that, you know, Mike Perrick calls it the Overton window. Well, the Overton window has now shifted so far to to the left that all you have to do to be called conservative now is vote for a smaller tax increase is is is vote for a little bit more scaled down of a surveillance state. Oh, you want a surveillance state?

[00:37:17]Absolutely. HOW BIG OF ONE? WELL, NOT AS BIG AS ONE AS HE HAS as as she wants.

[00:37:22]Oh, that's conservative. Yay. Small surveillance state.

[00:37:32]Russo Daniel McCarthy, the American Conservatives own former editor and current board member, current editor of ISI's occasional publication, Modern Age, and now also something to do with the Heritage Foundation, has decided that Thomas Massie had it coming. He feels so strongly about it that he has written his thoughts at length in two separate publications. the spectator which I told you about the day after the election and we read some of it and I went no he's wrong and compact the nub of the argument is that Massie was insufficiently imbued with partisan spirit in his opposition to the administration's foreign policy and his efforts to publicize the Epstein files he antagonized Trump who is popular with Republicans and interest an interest supportive of Israel which is popular with Republicans Why?

[00:38:24]Well, Christian Zionism, we already know the answer to this. Now, somebody might say, "But Mr. KING, DUDE, PLEASE. YOU AND MAGDAL TALKED ABOUT THAT PEOPLE NEED TO BE more partisan. They need to be more partisan when their party is correct."

[00:38:39]Taking a position of antagonism against something that the party, which is rare, is actually correct upon. Well, you could call it partisan or you could call it principled partisanship.

[00:38:56]For example, Nancy Nazi Pelosi. Nancy Nazi Pelosi was a naked partisan in the later parts or the last when did she get the gavl?

[00:39:09]2006.

[00:39:11]Pelosi became a pure partisan. What is it that the party said it was was its objectives and whatever they were then she was going to legislatively get it accomplished. For example, Obamacare, for example, the um well, they're going to get a bailout, aren't they? And then all the other things that came along with that, the abolition of student loans was a Democrat party checkbox and they got it.

[00:39:39]So Pelosi was a naked partisan and it was just purely for what the party had decided that it was that it needed to do or that its donors had told it or that the new world order people had told it that it should do. She did it. Mike Johnson similarly is pretty much trying to do the same thing. That kind of partisanship is not to be confused with an ideology or even a a mode or a vein of critical thinking thinking if you will. It's it's almost the exact opposite.

[00:40:21]Well, this is what the magicons are now demanding. Pelosiism.

[00:40:25]You fall in the line, the party tells you where to vote and you do it. I mean, it did work for Nancy.

[00:40:33]>> Oh, it absolutely worked for Nancy.

[00:40:35]>> It worked >> for Nancy and her clients, which is and they go back to what I said. We now have a managerial state where each member of Congress is basically the CEO of an entity that controls approximately $400 billion in assets every year. If if you take $7 trillion here, do the do the math.

[00:41:00]We can do this on this show because we have the time.

[00:41:04]I don't know if my calculator will go up that high.

[00:41:08]I think I have to actually turn it sideways to get it to do that. Uh let's just be we'll round down and say they're only going to spend six trillion this year. How many zeros is that, Maggie? That's okay. Nine zeros is a billion.

[00:41:26]That's a trillion. 12 zeros is a trillion, right? Do I have that right?

[00:41:30]That's uh thousand 100,000 100 million 100 million. No, I think I have to add three more.

[00:41:36]Okay, now I'm at 6 trillion. Let's divide that by 535 equals um 11 bill214,953.

[00:41:50]No, no.

[00:41:53]Yeah, it's 11 billion 214,953,271.

[00:41:58]Um I think I went one too far.

[00:42:06]I think it's 110 billion that each one would control individually. Maybe I carried a zero wrong.

[00:42:16]>> Be three sets of three zeros.

[00:42:18]>> It's three sets of three zeros. I think that's what I had. Three, one, two, 110 billion. Yeah.

[00:42:24]>> So, no, no, it's 110 billion.

[00:42:26]>> That's what I just said.

[00:42:27]>> Yeah, it's 110 billion per member of the House of Represent. I want you to think about that.

[00:42:34]The state of Louisiana's budget, last time I looked, was like $40 billion, 45 billion, something like that. Um, most states don't have budgets of $10 billion. This state has five members of the House of Representing that basically control and vote on uh an appropriation of 110 billion a piece. Now, they're are not all individual obviously, but you see where I'm going with this. This is this is completely and totally out of control. And but it almost feels silly to say that because it's been completely and totally out of control since the as since the Iraq war.

[00:43:18]Maybe you could have fixed it then. You can't fix this. There's no repairing this. Bankruptcy is the repair. the bond market telling you, uh, we're going to charge you so much interest, you're either going to have to start confiscating people's property and selling it to the Chinese to get the revenue to build your trillion half dollar army and super spyfair state or the whole thing is going to crack. The whole thing is going to crumble.

[00:43:43]>> So, pull them on.

[00:43:45]>> Yeah, just pull a mandami.

[00:43:48]We're going to start going city by city and looking at homes that aren't being managed properly. And if we find a bad landlord or a bad uh owner of the home, then we're going to take the home and we're going to place it. We're as as good stewards, we're going to put it into into better people's hands to find better people. Um or people that I like.

[00:44:11]Oh, okay.

[00:44:18]So, is someone really even partisan today? Well, the Democrat party is obviously the the party of the cult of death. So part of what they are partisan about is death. Is that really a way to operate a nation? That's pretty much what Frank Wright is saying about England today. And by inference or by a proxy connection about the United States and I'll ask him about it.

[00:44:44]History is going to be a harsh judge of our era unless we start creating saints, which could happen.

[00:44:59]Back to Jude Russo.

[00:45:03]McCarthy isn't above trying to have his cake and eat it too. An attitude I admire, but perhaps not one that is conducive to the best analy.

[00:45:14]And he says if the fight had merely been over the war with Iran, the outcome might have been different different even with the degree of support the war finds among older Republicans. But the Iran war was subsumed or subsumed by the Israel discourse. And while some Massie supporters considered him an anti-war hero, others actually agreed with his opponent in framing him as first and foremost an anti-vionist.

[00:45:43]Massiey's critical views of NATO were more aligned with MAGA's sentiments, but didn't feature prominently in the race.

[00:45:50]Close quote. There may be no good ways out of this political zooang, but blaming Massie for its uh comic uh but blaming Massie for its comic overtones. McCarthy is smart enough to know what's going on here. those whose memories stretch back longer than two uh two numbers uh the economist may remember that he's written an article or two about the Israeli lobby.

[00:46:19]This logical conclusion is that Massie should have just eaten his reservations and adopted the party line with the two inherent defects that go with it. first having to support policies you think are bad and second being held liable for those policies if they do in fact turn out to be bad.

[00:46:41]This dynamic while less pronounced is also present in Lefer Epstein.

[00:46:51]Why am I uh while I am myself less interested in the Epstein files than many of my fellows and less persuaded of their use as a hermeneutic for understanding how things work, their disclosure was in fact a signature issue for Trump's FBI director and first attorney general and something that Trump had claimed would not tarnish his own reputation at all. That stuck that that Massie stuck with yestery year's Trumpist flavor. that is to say, tried to be consistent in his own record.

[00:47:21]Seems like a knock on Massie, less like a knock on Massie and more like a knock on Trump. In other words, well, who changed Trump.

[00:47:33]And then he says, "Much rest on how important you think the the Iran war is and on your analyses of what went wrong for the Republicans during the Iraq war." And and and there's more of this.

[00:47:44]His point basically is, if you get all the way to the end, Donald Trump is not God. I'm pretty certain. I confess to doubting that he's even the deity's local representative.

[00:47:57]He's a political. He works for me and for everyone else who voted for him and notionally for the entire for everyone in the country. When he does things I think he should do, I'm happy to clap and cheer. Yay. When he does things I don't think he should do, I will boo and throw popcorn from the cheap seats. This is how you get what you want in a representative democracy, which is still notionally the form of government prevailing in these states. Notionally, Jude, not def. It is de facto. Uh, it is dare, not deacto.

[00:48:36]I am not a movement man, nor especially ideological, nor especially invested in the persons of my employees. that is that is the sorry wretches in the American government. But then again, I don't work for the Heritage Foundation, so some of this is is tongue and cheek.

[00:48:51]It's basically asking the same question that some of us have been asking and before us, many people were asking, what exactly is the problem?

[00:49:03]And is there a current solution? Well, the current solution, one such solution, this may shock you that I'd offer this, but it is a solution of sorts. Just go along with it.

[00:49:16]We can go back to being magnicons and cheering everything that the Donald does and saying that is as right as rain as if God would have done it himself and saying that party is more important than any principle. And regardless of what that entails, we're just going to vote, hope, and cope and stick with the party line and not worry about whether or not the party line is actually good, moral, ethical, or anything of the sort.

[00:49:40]You can do that. And many people have chosen to do that.

[00:49:46]What does that say about their character? What does that say about Okay, what do you actually want then here? What is the actual purpose then of the American system and the American form of government? Somebody was exing in the official Mike Churchill signal chat yesterday.

[00:50:05]What the hell are we supposed to do, you And was going through the listing going like, "Okay, democracy sucks. This sucks. This sucks. This sucks. Where are we supposed to go from here? What am I supposed to do? Quit? Throw my hands up and defeat? Moat, hope, and cope? mode hope and cope is a solution for many and I said what you and then I message and comment look what you're basically bringing up is that the the the illusion that we are operating under is that democracy is a solution for its own failures its own failings.

[00:50:52]Well, how can that be?

[00:50:56]Can it fix itself when itself is flawed?

[00:50:59]So, if you go through the three, democracy, aristocracy, monarchy, the highest form of monarchy would be Christian, Catholic monarchy.

[00:51:10]Does it have its flaws? You bet. Um, if you had to analyze the the three systems, which one would you come down on the positive side of?

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[01:00:20]>> Maybe we do, son. Don't think you have a corner on all of virtue vision in the country or that everybody else is fat and selfish and you're the first generation to come along that's felt dissatisfied. They all have, you know, about different things and most of them didn't have the same opportunity and freedoms that you do. The fact is more people are living better right here than anywhere else ever before in history. So don't expect us to roll over and play dead when you say you're dissatisfied.

[01:00:43]>> You're taller, stronger, healthier, better educated, and you live longer than the last generation. And we don't think that's altogether bad. We've done quite a bit of fighting all around the world. Whether you think it was moral or not, a lot of people are free today to make their own mistakes because of it.

[01:00:56]And that may just include you.

[01:00:58]>> I don't know. Maybe part of it the fact that you're in a hurry. But some problems you can't get quick answers to, no matter how much you want them. Show me how to get rid of the unlimited capacity for human beings to make themselves believe that they're somehow right and justified in stealing from somebody.

[01:01:12]>> I don't think that we're telling you to lose your ideals or your sense of outrage. They're the only way things ever get done. And there's a lot that still needs doing, and we hope you'll tackle it. You don't have dramatic like trying to come up with a better country.

[01:01:25]You can find enough to keep you busy right here. While you're at it, don't break things up in the name of progress or crack a placard stick over somebody's head to help him see the light. Be careful of his rights because your property and your person and your rights aren't any better than his. And next time you may be the one to get it. We remember a man who killed 6 million people and called it social improvement.

[01:01:47]So hang in. Don't try to build a new country. Make the old one work. It has for over 400 years.

[01:01:59]All right.

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[01:05:23]Anne Coulter has had it with Steven Miller. No surprise here. Uh, I didn't know that Miller had been around for as long as he had. I had no clue that he had worked for Jeff Sessions and that when Trump decided that Sessions needed to be fired and for whatever the reasons were that Steven Miller sided with Trump.

[01:05:51]According to Anne Coulter, my reality TV show, What Won't They Say? He's talking about Steven Miller and Nicole Wallace.

[01:05:59]And apparently uh did you know that Nicole Wallace used to be a Republican?

[01:06:04]>> I did not.

[01:06:05]>> I did not know this. She worked for Sarah Palin.

[01:06:10]Wallace, you will recall, was part of the brain trust that picked Sarah Palin, then a little known Alaska governor, to be McCain's running mate. As Palin's primary assistant, Wallace immediately began leaking nasty stories about her to the press, calling her a diva and carping about her shopping sprees. As soon as Wallace failed at the job of getting her clients elected, she rushed to the New York Times to announce that she hadn't voted for them. Anyway, that reinvention set up Wuawas perfectly for a host role on MSM NBC. At that time, it was MSNBC. where as a former Republican, she say she says things too crazy for a demon to voice.

[01:06:51]Like the girl who does the whole football team, she will do anything, say anything to stay on TV before being discarded. If David Duke bought MS now and announced we're going white nationalist, she'd send him her resume.

[01:07:10]And he and he says about Miller, "For 20 years, Jeff Sessions had been the sole voice of sanity on immigration in the US Senate. Like the little Dutch boy who put his finger in the dyke, saving his town from a catastrophic flood, Sessions spared our country from the third world flood long enough for Trump to come along, run on the issue, and win." In any other Senate office, Steven Miller would have been responding to constituent email. In Sessions office, he was a major policy advisor whose detailed memo exposing the cons, tricks, and loopholes in the Floridaian Senator Marco Rubio's amnesty bill did more than anything else to kill it. I didn't know that either. Uh but he stood by saying nothing as Trump cruy assailed Sessions, even joining in on the attack. After Sessions's subsequent primary loss in his attempt to return to the Senate, Miller told reporters while strolling down the White House driveway that Sessions defeat was a great victory for the country, a great victory for the president.

[01:08:19]Maybe it was all worth it. Anne Coulter says now that Miller has a crucial perch in Trump's White House.

[01:08:26]That's a question for the philosophers.

[01:08:29]Do you know all that about Steven Miller? I didn't know anything about Steven Miller.

[01:08:35]Um, is the story about the smartphones in here? I want to do this one.

[01:08:44]This is from msn.com.

[01:08:46]Smartphone sales are tumbling.

[01:08:51]Yay.

[01:08:57]As I say that with this thing in my hand.

[01:09:02]WELL, TY, DON'T YOU HAVE A DON'T YOU HAVE A SMARTPHONE? DON'T YOU HAVE A SMARTPHONE? SURE DO.

[01:09:13]I've said it before and I will say it again. I will trade this that computer and that video camera right there for a 10,000 watt FM transmitter decently on the on the dial above 93.1 in any medium mediumsiz major market in the US. Happy camper.

[01:09:35]No podcast, no nagging, none of the other garbage and techno crap I have to put up with every day. Just turn the mic on and talk.

[01:09:49]>> Hey Eddie, is the transmitter working?

[01:09:52]>> Yes, King Dude, it's working. Fantastic.

[01:09:54]Hey, ladies and gentlemen, we're live.

[01:09:56]See how easy that was?

[01:10:01]Back in the day when the primary principal cons concern that you had in running an AM or FM radio station, whether it was talk or not, was whether or not your backup gen generator had the proper amount of fuel in it, that it hadn't gone bad because it was sitting there for for years or whatever, and that the auto start switch had been checked out and it worked. That's really all we cared about.

[01:10:28]I will remember this uh when I worked at uh 8:50 a.m. Wrbz the above in Raleigh, North Carolina. I was in my first See, I started in Labor Day weekend. So, Hurricane Fran was last week of September. So, maybe first week of October. Oh, it's four weeks in.

[01:10:54]and Hurricane Fran hit North Carolina.

[01:11:03]And it wasn't even that comparatively speaking, it wasn't even that deadly of a storm. Um, but what had happened was is that it had rained like 30 of the previous 40 days. So the ground was saturated and Fran came through and hit Raleigh with 85 90 mph winds, category one basically. But the ground was so wet it just pushed the pine trees over and that's what did all the destruction.

[01:11:33]There was there wasn't a lot of flooding. Just it just just because the ground was so wet, it just pushed the trees over and they just fell on every available power line in the uh back then. Raleigh was the because it was Raleigh Durham is the market. So Raleigh Research Triangle Park, the entire area was kind of its own ecosystem.

[01:11:58]The whole thing was down.

[01:12:00]I didn't want to say people were without power for like six weeks. That's when I was on air and I was talking about Governor Jim Hunt furlowing all the state employees and I'm like, "No, don't furlow him, dude. Send them out in the neighborhoods with chainsaws."

[01:12:13]And Hunt actually called the radio station and demanded to speak to me on air and I spoke to him. Um, there was no power to that radio station. None.

[01:12:26]>> 0.

[01:12:29]We never went off air. What is wrong with this headphone jack? Sorry. Very annoying. We never went off air cuz they had a backup generator and then at the transmitter they had a backup generator.

[01:12:45]This was the largest and biggest technology hurdle in AMFM broadcasting.

[01:12:54]It was literally that simple. Now you can say, "What about the programming?"

[01:12:59]And I I mean, we do that. We We eat that with mustard on it every day. Piece of cake.

[01:13:09]What you have to go through to run an internet radio station these days or radio station that's attached to an internet radio station is mindboggling.

[01:13:20]No one would believe it. They would not believe it if if if I if I gave someone a if I wrote a white paper and say, "Here, do this." You'd look at you'd be like the guy in a Geico commercial go, "Yeah, I you'd walk away."

[01:13:36]That's where we are. Technology has made us more stupid. It has distanced us. It has broken up families. It has crushed a sense of community. It hasn't made anyone closer. And it certainly has not advanced Christianity, holiness, or intelligence. If anything, it's crushing it.

[01:14:03]And that's what I think about that. The smartphone has run into tough times.

[01:14:07]Sales of everyone's favorite device could see the largest decline on record this year, according to Market Tracker IDC.

[01:14:16]Yay.

[01:14:19]Worldwide, smartphone shipments are expected to decline 14% in 2026 to 1. Uh 09 billion units. I mean, before you start celebrating, there's still a billion of these things are going to be made.

[01:14:33]According to IDC, that's down from IDC's February forecast of a 12.9% decline and would mark the steepest annual contraction in smartphone history. The research firm said there's one potential ray of light. While the industry outlook might be getting worse, estimates for Apple iPhone sales are actually improving.

[01:14:55]Boo boo hiss.

[01:15:00]The expected decline of smartphone shipments is being driven in part by the elevated cost of memory critical component. There's a global shortage of most components. Uh that's led to soaring cost, a boon for memory blah blah blah blah. Uh the US Iran war has added a fresh layer of cost pressures for smartphone OEMs driven by rising oil prices and transportation cost. Apple was better prepared than the other companies. Um analysts expect Apple to show off its highly anticipated AI updates at the company's worldwide developers conference which kicks off on June the June 8. You know, isn't that another kind of amazing thing?

[01:15:41]>> I have to have water.

[01:15:46]Used to be that people were tuned in to Steve Jobs to watch the WWDC.

[01:15:56]That's the worldwide developers conference and the new Apple gadgets or new twist or or wrinkle in the fabric that was the OS and the things that humans had created like the guy that designed this box here. Jonathan Ivy was just a is a genius. He's an artist. Uh Ivy, Jonathan Ivy designed the original iMac, you know, the bubble, that was his. The G3, G4 towers, those were his. Um the iPod, that was his. Uh the iPad, it's all Jonathan Ivy.

[01:16:38]Jonathan Ivy just kind of like they they say that they didn't fire him, but he's still a consultant and kind of still working for Apple. Uh, but now Apple WWDC is we're gonna you're gonna regardless of what nonhumans can do. I think Steve would be appalled. Where in the hell are we going with this? Uh, smartphone sales, there ought to be a moratorum. If you got one, keep it.

[01:17:02]You're not getting a new one. We're outlawing them. They are a drain on humanity. They are a drain on the economy.

[01:17:13]And again look at all the work that has been created. People say like you know in adopting the new digital revolution and new technological revolution.

[01:17:22]America has done this and that and the other. Uh America has done bad things.

[01:17:28]The world has seen horrible things done.

[01:17:33]As a matter of fact, I said I was going to pick up on this and I didn't. I'm at the place in the FA that I have been sharing with you from Owen Mc Cran or McGran the palump palumpist.

[01:17:50]I'm at the place in the essay where he starts to get into some of the nitty-gritty about okay well here's why these things are bad and here's why um the things that AI if if if these these lunatics these James Bond movie villains Alman and the rest of them are allowed to actually pull the trigger on this and and look at this point in time they would be pulling the trigger out of spite there is no evidence none that the AIS can even do what it is they're advertised to do, which is to replace all of us. There just there there is no evidence.

[01:18:39]Owen says this, this is where I left off yesterday. These bastards always tell on themselves.

[01:18:45]Open AI published a white paper in April calling for industrial policy for the intelligence age full of radically progressive proposals.

[01:18:53]A 32-hour work week. I mean, THIS IS THIS IS MOM DONNIE STUFF HERE. This is worse than Mandami Mandani.

[01:19:02]A public wealth fund providing all citizens and equity stake AI companies blah blah blah. In the same period, Open AAI's president helped fund a super PAC that spent over $2 million on ads against Alex Bores, a New York congressional candidate whose crime was introducing safety regulation for large AI developers, and proposing to tax AI to fund direct payments to Americans for the damage it would cause.

[01:19:29]The company removed a profit cap that had previously limited investors to 100 times their initial investment.

[01:19:36]in no history of earth until the industrial age and I don't even think until the industrial age until the IPO age has anyone been able to invest in something and get a 100 times their investment return.

[01:19:56]Now are there exceptions to that rule?

[01:19:58]Yeah, you could have invested in Hullet Packard maybe or like that uh as an early investor, but that's the exception, not the rule.

[01:20:09]Chris Leane, Open AI's chief lobbyist, systematically deprioritized internal research that could produce unflattering results. quote when whenever someone wrote a paper which talked about something negative some some negative aspect of AI he would say we're not going to release something about a problem until we have a solution for it and then he would say we want to do applied physics not theoretical physics in other words tell the story that helps us not the one that's true a philosophy 101 student who misreads nature uh who misreads nature writes a bad paper and gets a C a billionaire mayor who misreads NZEA builds a political philosophy around the misreading and funds it with the GDP of a small nation.

[01:20:55]That is effing insane.

[01:20:57]These are not serious people. They are serious about accumulation and about winning. They are not serious about the questions that matter for what they for what they're building, what we owe each other, what makes a life worth living, and what happens to a civilization when you remove the material basis of human agency. These questions have occupied the best minds in human history for millennia. The valley's engagement with them amounts to reading the cliff notes on a transatlantic flight and arriving convinced you've come to you've mastered the cannon and these people want to restructure civilization.

[01:21:38]And he says Albert Cus broke with Jean Paul Sarta and the French left over the most concrete political question there is. Can the people alive today be treated as acceptable casualties in the pursuit of a better future?

[01:21:53]What a statement that is.

[01:21:56]Charta and Marxist said yes. History has a direction. The revolution requires sacrifice. Cas said no. Any system of thought that subordinates living people to a hypothetical future has already committed the foundational moral error.

[01:22:15]Once you accept that logic, there is no limiting principle. Any atrocity becomes justifiable. Any amount of present suffering can be rationalized as a necessary input to the glorious output.

[01:22:29]You know, I have talked about this uh in analog terms here on the Mike Church Show for years, if not decades.

[01:22:37]I'll give you one quick an quick anecdote point. When the parish that I live in, you call it a county, we call it a parish, St. Tamity Parish decided that it wanted to increase its revenue stream so the people that worked in governments could could build monuments to themselves buildings and they would name them after them and then import another doubling of the population here.

[01:23:03]They didn't ask any of us what we thought about it.

[01:23:09]the the the nice little idealic low traffic, low uh density life that we all moved here or grew up here to experience was not even a concern.

[01:23:22]All that matter was the revenue from the construction.

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[01:25:12]>> Hello crusaders. This is Sister Mary Joseph with your saint of the day. Today is May 28th, the feast of St. Augustine of Canterbury who died in 604. He was the great apostle of England sent there by St. Gregory the Great in 597. He brought 40 Benedicting monks with him and on a Christmas day after his arrival he baptized 10,000 Englishmen. Even King Ethelbert was converted. This was the beginning of the great age of the Catholic faith in England. Once a country so devout and loyal to the true faith and so lovingly prayerful toward the blessed virgin Mary that it was called as a land our lady's dowry. The best traditions of England are all Catholic, and no heretic has been able completely to destroy them. And that 300 years of possession could never give heresy any claim to a country which was led astray by seduction and violence and which has retained so many traces of ancient and deeprooted Catholicity.

[01:26:09]Today is also the feast of St. Bernard of Menthan who died in 108. He was an Augustinian monk who visited every mountain and valley in the Alps. He took care of all travelers there for over 40 years. He is the patron saint of mountain climbers and the celebrated St. Bernard dogs are named in his honor. St. Bernard of Menthon, St. Augustine of Canterbury, pray for us. Thank you for joining us for this brief summary of the lives of today's saints. Tomorrow is the feast of St. Mary Magdalene Depodsy. To access all of our Saint of the Day recordings as podcasts, go to crusad channel.com/saints.

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[01:27:08]Attention Coffee Police Academy students. We will now call the role. CPA candidate Jones present. Joe Arabica Friday.

[01:27:17]>> TOMMY. TOMMY.

[01:27:19]>> OH, I'M HERE, SIR. I JUST CAN'T SEEM TO KEEP MY eyes open since I started drinking this Barrett Bargain basement stale bean water.

[01:27:25]>> And just why are you violating CPA coffee code SBW1?

[01:27:30]>> Well, that's easy. So, can save up money to get into the coffee cop academy. Son, breaking CPA rules so you can get into CPA is no way to become a coffee cup.

[01:27:39]Now, I'm afraid we're going to have to Uh-oh. Sounds like Lou has found the academy. And he's on his second cup of Abby Rose.

[01:27:48]>> WHAT DOES HE WANT?

[01:27:48]>> HE WANTS to know why the CPA didn't recognize his rugaroo now. Ruger nouns.

[01:27:53]And I'm the one that rejected his application.

[01:27:57]>> Will Lou the Ruguru have his revenge and grind the coffee cop into espresso? Stay tuned to this station for our next episode. And in the meantime, order Abby Rose coffee at shop.mikechurch.com.

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[01:30:07]Yeah. Oh, hey, there really is a really cool emerald green cosmic 35th anniversary Mike Church show t-shirt.

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[01:31:02]As a matter of fact, my buddy the postmaster even goes like, "Bro, you've been bringing two bags in at A TIME."

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[01:31:47]Where is the which is the soundbite where Trump says he's going to blow he's going to blow Oman up? Is that four >> or is that is that three?

[01:32:02]By the way, can I just say something say something about this?

[01:32:09]If you read Trump's book, the first book, The Art of the Deal, the deal that he enters into to basically purchase Marago was made And there's two deals that he made that he used what's called an MOU, memorandum of understanding.

[01:32:37]This is something that is used in the business world where you go like uh okay, I'm going to say this.

[01:32:45]Tell me if you agree with it. Yes. Okay, you're going to say this and I will going to tell you yes, I agree with that term or whatever condition. We put this into a document called a memorandum of understanding. This is something you use in business to do hostile takeovers and stuff. You go to someone, you're going like, "Look, your business sucks. I'm coming in. I'm taking." You pull a Mitt Romney and Bane Capital.

[01:33:13]A memorandum of understanding just it doesn't sound right when you're talking about Dayton. It's not a business transaction.

[01:33:23]You cannot solve the world's moral and existential problems through the economics of dollars and cents and the sale and transfer of goods and services.

[01:33:35]If it were that easy, we would all be saints.

[01:33:39]All of the world's problems would have been solved by the price mechanism and this thing they call capitalism.

[01:33:47]As a matter of fact, Maggie, while you're typing, I'm sorry, I forgot.

[01:33:50]would you go grab my Small as Beautiful Shoemacher book because I read another five pages last night and there was a quote in there that I read and I went, "Yep, I'm going to share that with the audience tomorrow on air because it has everything to do with the current crisis, you know, because we just Thank you. It just Here it is. shop.mmikechurch.com.

[01:34:15]You really have two micro books. Got a lot of books in the Founders Trading Post store. People would be shocked.

[01:34:22]>> A garage full of books.

[01:34:28]>> Shoe marker. But poisonous errors being unlimited sorrow in the third and fourth generation. The errors are not in science but in the philosophy put forward in the name of in the name of science as Etion is Eton Gilson put it more than 20 years ago. One of brother Francis's favorite philosophers Etion quote such a development was by no means inevitable but the progressive growth of natural science has made it more and more probable. the growing interest taken by men in the practical results of I just have to HAVE IT NEARBY. SCIENCE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO keep using that damn word um of of science was in itself both natural and legitimate. But it helped to it helped them to forget that science is knowledge and practical results but it's byproducts.

[01:35:31]Before their unexpected success in finding conclusive explanations of the material world, men had begun either to despise all disciplines in which such demonstrations could not be found or to rebuild those disciplines after the pattern of the physical sciences.

[01:35:51]As a consequence, metaphysics and ethics had to either be ignored or at least replaced by new positive sciencees. In either in either case, they would be eliminated. A very dangerous move indeed which accounts for the perilous position in which western in which western culture has now found itself.

[01:36:19]You know this ethics and broadcasting network. Go to mikechurch.com.

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[01:36:35]Um, you would see this and me talking about this in pretty much this fashion. And on the homepage, you would see our statement of principles and why ethics matter. It's all that matters.

[01:36:59]And then Schumacher says it's not even true that metaphysics and ethics would be eliminated. On the contrary, all we got was bad metaphysics and appalling ethics.

[01:37:14]Historians know that metaphysical errors can lead to death.

[01:37:19]RC Collingwood wrote, and this is the one that I wanted to share most um ardently, quote, "The petristic diagnosis of the decay of Greco Roman civilization ascribes that event to a metaphysical disease.

[01:37:40]It was not barbarian attacks that destroyed the Greco Roman world. The cause was a metaphysical cause.

[01:37:50]The pagan world was failing to keep alive its own fundamental convictions.

[01:37:58]They the petristic writers said because owing to faults in metaphysical analyses it had become confused as to what these convictions were. If metaphysics had been a mere luxury of the intellect, this would not have mattered. What the two quotes and what Schumacher says, you get that book in the founders in the dogear store at shop.mmikechurch.com. We have one copy left.

[01:38:27]What they are saying is that metaphysics matter. We have eliminated them. I want all of you to go to catholicism.org.

[01:38:36]Brother Andre Marie years ago um had a fascination with as a matter of fact there's a episode of reconquest on this subject with Dr. Wulf Gang Smith uh quite possibly the most brilliant uh physicist astrophysicist of the last half of the 20th century especially after his conversion to the Catholic faith and in one of uh his writeups um or his columns his ad room rims I think it was an ad room about Dr. Dr. Vulfkang Smith and and you know brother interviewed him and one of the things that Dr. Vulkang Smith had pointed out and had told the the the scientific world and THE SCIENTIFIC WORLD IGNORED HIM.

[01:39:23]You can't go any further in the study and the use and the application of physics and even quantum physics without returning to metaphysics.

[01:39:38]You have to return to metaphysics.

[01:39:43]Now, this is the part of the Mike Church show where where I call this the berser effect.

[01:39:50]This is where the eyes glaze over. This is where the women go like, "Yeah, I think I'm going to find me a soap opera to listen to." And they all leave. And this is where I DON'T PLAY. THIS IS YOU'RE ASKING ME TO THINK. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE metaphysic I would hope after 15 years of this that some of you have no glazed eyes and are going like yeah can do deal it on the metaphysics metaphysic meta above physics what here here's all you need to understand this is okay physics metaphysics okay who is up here I'll give you three guesses first two don't count threeletter word No crickets. No. God, metaphysics.

[01:40:42]Supernatural God. He is the author of nature. Thus the supernatural.

[01:40:48]This informs this.

[01:40:52]This created this. Does everyone understand this? If you don't seek an understanding and a relationship with this him, God to help you understand this and to inform you like, "No, you can't think about it like that. That's heretical or that that would make you an apostate or it would make you a madman or a murderer or a mass murderer or whatever."

[01:41:20]What Wolf Gang Smith was saying that you have to have this to have a better and greater understanding of this. The two were linked. You had gone as far as you could go understanding this with man and pagan thought and without metaphysics.

[01:41:39]Which is why I'm not the one that crafted this. Other people far wiser than I have said it.

[01:41:47]I'm just going to repeat it to you.

[01:41:49]Think of the last 60 years of SCIENTIFIC progress if there has been any. Oh, there have been improvements on previous technologies and some things have been discovered.

[01:42:03]Apply it to the field of medicine for for example.

[01:42:08]This is where it is key researchers and the guys in a white lab coat.

[01:42:18]scientists have sworn off on they all had to take an oath basically had to say there is no god and Darwin was right even though since Darwin lived coming up on 200 years ago now or 150 years 160 years ago um there has been no basis nothing can be said that Darwin's theories are correct No, no natural selection. There have been no mutations. There's certainly been no evolutions. There's nothing in the Darwin cannon that is still SCIENT SCIENTIFICALLY SOUND. AND they all know it. They just can't admit it. Because to admit it is to say we have to go back to Catholicity, what the church has taught about science and metaphysics.

[01:43:14]This is what Schumacher is saying. Now I got into this discussion here because Trump has no metaphysics. None. 0.0 this much. Zero.

[01:43:22]>> He has no consideration.

[01:43:24]>> Zero.

[01:43:25]>> This makes him a rotten leader. It makes him a bad human being in many instances because he didn't have any consideration of metaphysics. They had no which which which leaf all the area in between. This is where you get ethics.

[01:43:43]Imagine a world that had never aligned with Satan, demons, demonology, quackery, paganism, and Darwinism. Cuz it's a fake science.

[01:43:58]It's not a science.

[01:44:01]It's a theory. It's not even a theory.

[01:44:03]How? It's a it's a chapter in a science fiction novel now.

[01:44:10]And yet they base their research on we're going to how are we going to cure cancer? Well, as the Darwinian model says that it must be evolving. So all of our research is going to go into okay how is it evolving? If we can find the evolution gene, the gene that makes it evolve, then we can identify that and then we can stop it from evolving and then we can reverse engineer something to make it not mutate in the first place. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

[01:44:37]Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. You're wrong. And how do we know that it's wrong? Because it hasn't produced a single solitary cure. Can you go cancer-free because they bombard your body with chemo with with radiation and other chemicals? Yep. Sure can. Did they cure it? Nope. Did not. How many people do you know got rid of cancer 0.0 zero cancer-free and went into remission because they're studying the wrong thing and the method is wrong and they will never cure it. Which is why the American Cancer Society is a fleecing organization. So is the American Heart Association. You're not trying to understand anything more about how the heart works and how God created it.

[01:45:21]Which might lead you to where Oh, okay.

[01:45:24]Well, if we get back to metaphysics, who knows what scientific medical advances might have been made? Who knows what advances in statecraftraft might have prevented World War II if we had metaphysics over foreign policy?

[01:45:41]Ethics.

[01:45:43]So, which was the one we say is going to blow Oman up? Is it four? Okay, here.

[01:45:49]This isn't Statecraft. This is 4D chess.

[01:45:52]No, it's a playground bully saying, "I got a bigger army than you. Bow your bend your damn knee or I'll blow you up."

[01:46:01]>> No, the street's going to be open to everybody. It's uh >> And who control?

[01:46:04]>> It's international waters. Nobody's going to control it. We're going to watch over it. WE'LL WATCH OVER >> STOP THE TAPE. STOP THE TAPE. HEY, I WANT TO ASK YOU a question, Mr. President. 24.9 miles off of the Louisiana coast is what?

[01:46:22]asking for a friend. 24.9 miles off of the coast of South Carolina off of Hilton Head is what? Your time starts now. Mr. Trump, best of luck.

[01:46:37]The Mike Churchill Jeopardy question for the Donald is American water.

[01:46:46]The international water line starts at 25 miles out.

[01:46:52]The straight of Hormuz is less than 25 miles wide. Why is that international water?

[01:47:01]The Iranians on one side, the Arabians and the Emirates and the Kuwaitis on the other. Gulf of Oman. Oman on one side, Pakistan, I think it's Pakistan or India on the other.

[01:47:21]Now, after the 25 miles of international water, sure, why not? I'll play. Let's have a here. Let's have a party.

[01:47:31]He wouldn't say that.

[01:47:33]That's what the straight of Mississippi, the Mississippi River straight is international water. Is it?

[01:47:42]We here in Louisiana tend to think that it's Louisiana water.

[01:47:47]I know that all you federalis and all of you carpet bagging Yankees think it's your water. Runs through our state. We don't claim it when it runs through Arkansas.

[01:47:59]All right, roll the tape. I just had to point that out.

[01:48:03]control it. That's part of the negotiation that we have. They would like to control it. Nobody's going to control it. It's international waters and Oman will behave just like everybody else. So, we'll have to blow them up.

[01:48:14]They understand that. They'll be fine.

[01:48:17]>> No, this Oman will behave just like everybody else. So, we'll have to blow them up.

[01:48:23]They understand that. Everybody understand? So, all of our new Abraham Accord oil trading partners on your big your big uh Arabian tour last winter, you know, where you went to you went to Oman, you went to UAE, you went to Saudi Arabia, you went to all these countries, they literally rolled a red carpet. NOW, THE QATARIS GAVE YOU A plane that if you don't do it, you have to blow them up. You're now threatening to blow up and somebody and and the Magakans that are apolog That's just him blustering. That's just the way he talks.

[01:48:58]Well, somebody needs to tell him to stop.

[01:49:02]That's not how you talk in international affairs.

[01:49:08]You know, when I was in high school, I had to study uh US American history and I had to have like a year of world history. Uh maybe two years. I don't remember. I should but I don't.

[01:49:22]One of the words terms that we had to understand and they were they gave they gave us tests on this was the term day.

[01:49:35]What is day tant?

[01:49:38]What does Webster say the dictionary the the definition of dant is d e t e n t e with a a leaison over the e tant.

[01:49:50]Well, I was taught that day is the process of negotiation to arrive at in in the best case scenario you would arrive at a treaty of some sort.

[01:50:05]So it sounds like dant dant French for relaxation is the easing of strain relations between rival countries dial it down a notch through diplomacy, trade and communications rather than confrontation. The term is most famously used to describe a specific era during the cold war of the 1970s day.

[01:50:27]Is this what is what Trump is doing day?

[01:50:31]Is it a relaxation? If you're threatening to blow, we'll blow up.

[01:50:36]Oman, they'll fall in line. We'll blow them up.

[01:50:40]This is now the United States of America's promise to the rest of the world. Used to be we were the global leaders in freedom and and of leading the world in in in the good things and in peaceful negotiations and harmony between countries. AND NO, WE DON'T NEED THAT. It's it's the straight will be open. the world can USE IT. IT'S INTERNATIONAL WATERS. It's now perhaps there may be been a treaty somewhere that was agreed to that a certain small stretch of the straight hormuz is international water. Not the area that goes through Iran and goes through Frank Ray. Coming up next, >> it's not tape or a postit or a candy bar, but this new 3M is >> is the freshest spin on true crime shows since dinosaurs were solving cold cases with fossil evidence. Yeah, it's that original, folks.

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