True Justice Eye for an Eye Almost Nailed the Mystery. Almost.

Added: 2026-05-28

[00:00:00]Andrea, the Justice Warriors are back.

[00:00:03]And let's see if they were exciting and really good and we enjoyed it or if this was just a movie that maybe came out at the wrong time of the year. Looking at our backgrounds. Hint, hint, hint.

[00:00:18]>> All right, >> this is Eric and >> this is Andrea.

[00:00:21]>> Hallmark Mysteries and more.

[00:00:25]>> I for an I. What do we have?

[00:00:28]>> Okay. Well, first my question, did you watch the first True Justice before this?

[00:00:33]>> I did not.

[00:00:34]>> Okay. I did because I wanted to revisit um who the characters were.

[00:00:39]>> And I do think it helped, >> but just knowing who the characters were or were there any continuity things that you thought because I knew who they all were. I've seen it since it aired. I've seen it, you know, within the last six months, say.

[00:00:54]>> Yeah. I hadn't I hadn't watched it since it aired and since they are a couple years apart I >> I don't remember did you did you like it the first go around?

[00:01:01]>> It was okay. It was not my favorite and so um I do have a strong favorite between the two mysteries um finishing this month. So and between >> between all three of us say May >> you knew you weren't a fan of Hannah.

[00:01:16]>> Well this one is eye for an eye. Our warriors work to exonerate a mother wrongly accused of murdering another mother in the parent school coalition.

[00:01:27]All right, this one was four stars for me. I really I really enjoyed this one and you nailed it when you said my first sentence is I love the pacing. So winner, you know me. It is moving. Um it is exciting. I thought that everyone had something to do in this movie that was in the Justice Warriors crime scene. Um, like there was just so much going on.

[00:01:51]Like everyone has their own little piece. There wasn't, we weren't stuck with one of them a little bit more than the other. I really think they spread out the work equally. I also the camera work that they did when they were at the crisis.

[00:02:06]>> I agree.

[00:02:06]>> I was like, "Oh, I love how they >> photography, >> right? Imposed themselves into that scene like they were actually there when they weren't." That was brilliant. So, I really enjoyed that they did that. I hope they do that. If they have more, who knows what they're doing with mysteries, but if they have more mysteries, >> there's definitely one more True Justice coming.

[00:02:23]>> Were these all filmed in 2023 then or when they originally >> Yes.

[00:02:28]>> Okay. It seems like it. Um Yeah.

[00:02:31]>> And the winter it it felt like winter like you were, you know, or you are going to be complaining about >> it was a thousand% winter.

[00:02:40]>> You were complaining about the cold in an upcoming The Way Home episode. And uh this one you could see their breaths.

[00:02:46]you could see it was actual snow. So, I really enjoyed that piece. Um, Sylvia putting her glasses on and saying, "Wow, you all are really attractive." I thought that was hilarious when she was like, you know, they're all just kind of bumbling around and then she was like looking at them all and they're all like, "Thank you." I thought that was >> that was a really good scene.

[00:03:07]>> That was cute. Uh, the mention of Nelly knows the column. Clearly, this was meant to air closer to that movie. Maybe like, you know, that crossover. Um, I think if you weren't or if you haven't seen that movie, you probably missed that line. Um, but I think they did a really good job of, you know, hitting it.

[00:03:26]>> When you watched Nelly, you didn't remember that Eli power walking with the grandma. So, >> did not. So, that's where I was like, "Oh, this is this is cute." Um, I think it was overall just a fun adventure and a great ensemble cast. I think they all work well together. I liked that Nikki and Benjamin's characters were their love interests and they're all like when they kiss they're like ew. Like yeah, >> I can't get used to seeing that. I think that is really well done and probably accurate for most people if they're in that situation and they know both those people. Um, and we often talk about like for mysteries, you have to like kind of what's happening or like the theme of what's happening. And I really did like the school as a backdrop, but you also had like the parties, you had a cabin, you had lots of little offshoots that were going on to really keep me invested versus one stagnant space, which not always not always a win for me if I don't like the space that they're stuck in. So, >> which school? It's interesting because you I know schools have not always been >> Oh, I usually like schools.

[00:04:35]>> Oh, I know you did in the um Rosemary and Time.

[00:04:40]>> You didn't like it in But I guess there's more reasons when you talk Jazz Ramsay.

[00:04:45]>> Yeah, there's other there there are bigger issues than than location in that movie.

[00:04:51]>> I didn't hate it. Um I'm not sure.

[00:04:57]I'm a little bit shy of that. I did, but I I had in there like my second thing is I really like all the characters and I think they do as you said they do a good job of you get to know each one of them to have that many of them and still be able to spread time around >> equally and not glide over anyone is good.

[00:05:18]>> I'll get into a little bit though of the flip side of of that. I thought it was you you had the one line with Celia. I liked the line with Benjamin erys early on when he's like, "Wait, don't I have cool energy, you know, to uh when he was talking to them like that was >> it was a it was a good line." I think uh Nikki and Megan, they >> they they do a good job writing like building the characters. They interject humor without it being silly, which you know, that's one of the things like with Hannah. While I like Hannah as the story and I like the characters, it's definitely gotten to the point where it's kind of a silly show. You know, it's getting a little bit more into like that Nelly or I I I don't even want to put it into Cases because I thought Cases was funny but in a much more sophisticated way, >> but they still keep the mystery as the central theme in it. But they were able to interject humor and I think they do a good job of doing all that. There were some things though that were a little bit whacked in it which I don't know if it's I'm not even going to put in the dislike but like the earpiece when they're going to tour the school. It's like pretty much almost headphone of ours like I think if someone's giving you a tour got that thing like hanging out.

[00:06:41]It's like wearing an AirPod right kind of wasn't discreet. And then you had the, you know, the the second worst wig since Jane's when uh, >> you know, Katherine McNamera's wig there was like that's more calling attention to yourself than it is, I think, camouflaging yourself. But once again, I had in there that I really liked the uh the call back to Nelly. And then once again, I'm not putting it as a dislike because I liked the scenery and I it really made me wonder the fact that it was winter really I think shows this was released completely at a different time than it was anticipated.

[00:07:30]>> Oh yeah.

[00:07:31]>> To release, right?

[00:07:32]>> Oh yeah.

[00:07:33]And it was just kind of weird like we watch these winter movies that don't have or movies that are even like movies that should be a winter movie and they they don't have the winner and then they have this one. So it was just kind of weird timing to have this one be, you know, late May, mid May, whatever. Um, but all that being said, I liked it and it fit the story and it was all good.

[00:08:01]And so this had me wondering and I I was thinking about this afterwards on like even though it's out of place, is it really bad? Like can you only release a movie that takes place in winter in winter? And I don't think you really need to. It just was kind of a little bit unexpected. And I can't say in a good way, in a bad way, just I I Hallmark just doesn't usually do this, right? So uh you know that's it. I thought, like I say, wrapping up though, I thought all in all it wasn't a bad bad movie. Um, we'll get in more into the mystery aspect of it and, you know, some other things to sort of define a little better, but what what what is it? What >> did you like?

[00:08:46]>> Go ahead.

[00:08:46]>> Did you like this movie or the first one better?

[00:08:49]>> True Justice.

[00:08:51]>> Yeah, >> we'll get to it in the in when we get to the mystery.

[00:08:54]>> Okay. Okay.

[00:08:55]>> So, that's we are on the mystery minutes. I thought we have what we dislike. Or was I supposed to say uh >> remember Eric, we don't have that during our mystery.

[00:09:03]>> Oh, I have it in my notes.

[00:09:04]>> I know. I tell you this. I told you this last week, too.

[00:09:07]>> Well, here then here's what I'm going to say, too. Is I thought the names like Kimber and Catherine.

[00:09:16]>> I don't know, maybe I'm just an old guy, but there were like so many of these names that I had no I'm like, wait, is Katherine the one who's dead or is Kimber the one?

[00:09:23]>> I love this. Kimber. I was like, they nailed it. The Kimber sounds exactly like the person who would be doing all of these things. 100%. I thought they nailed that.

[00:09:33]>> But I was like having the two K names. I forget. There was a new movie earlier on that we watched that had two names that were kind of similar that you were like wait who was who in it. So it's the same thing for me. I I kept having the thing and like wait Austin wait which one's Austin now? And I kept having to be like, I can't figure out who and I can't go to IMDb because they don't update. I know >> and they don't they don't give us the press sheet anymore. So, I couldn't figure out who all the characters were.

[00:10:00]So there was there was like a confusion underlying confusion in this because there was a there's like I say while there's the whole cast and they have all of them there's also a whole abundance of you know suspects and other characters.

[00:10:18]So you had a lot of names and little people like so trying to keep track of who everybody was. And the last thing I'll say, was the Marcus, since you did just watch it again, was that the same Marcus? Because for some reason he looked different to me, >> the brother.

[00:10:34]>> Yeah. Oh. Um, he did maybe look different.

[00:10:40]>> And he's he wasn't in IMDb, so I I couldn't tell you if it was or it wasn't.

[00:10:45]>> I think he was the same. Like I didn't clock it as like that different.

[00:10:49]>> And you just watch it, so you probably would have. Okay. I was going off a longer memory that I I think he was different, but I'll go off I'll go off of yours. So, all right, let's talk about the mystery.

[00:11:01]>> Okay. Well, you talked about confusing with the character's name. I found the mystery and how the crime was committed and why was a little confusing. So, if we're talking about like strictly this is a mystery, I probably wouldn't give it four. Did I have a good time with this movie? Yes. That's why I gave it four. But the actual mystery, if we were going to get like down in the dirt there, probably wouldn't be a four at all. probably more like a two because it was really quite confusing. I don't think there's any way that we would have like quite how would we have known that happened, you know, like there's no way for us to know like right that was exactly what what what occurred. Um I did find like the the two guys breaking into Kimber's house with the VR game. Um and then you can't see them as they are in the house and finding the clues.

[00:11:52]How the heck did they get out of Kimber's house? Like we never like they just ended in the van and I'm like wait she came home and how the heck >> how did they would get out of there?

[00:12:01]Like did you jump out window?

[00:12:03]>> That's like was someone there? I I had an issue with that because that's like breaking and entering >> like like major crime thing right there.

[00:12:14]It's not like going into an empty place and sneaking around. if that kid had taken off the thing and saw those two.

[00:12:20]>> Gosh, >> like that messes you up.

[00:12:24]>> Right. So, I thought that >> you're never going back to the VR world again.

[00:12:27]>> Right. Right. I I would be like, "Holy smokes, you go to jail for that."

[00:12:32]So, I I had a little thing cuz I know I'm not a lawyer. You're not a lawyer, but I don't think if a door is unlocked that gives you permission to enter places, but they seem to >> to do that in this one.

[00:12:44]>> I do also say They had to tie up the loose ends when they described what happened. Like her saying, "Well, she could have been saved if you called 911 and you chose not to."

[00:12:57]Again, we wouldn't have been able to guess that as an audience watching it because how in the you know, >> they did say when they did the when they said that, oh, they didn't die from the stab. They they did bleed out. So you knew that there was I thought they >> something >> died when they were like laying in the snow kind of thing. But >> Oh, that's so cruel.

[00:13:20]That is like cruel cruel to think about what the what the couple did then. Like okay. I don't know if that makes it worse. That makes >> But it seems like if you just had stabbed and you would have been surviving, you probably could have been crawling away or screaming.

[00:13:34]>> Yeah. And she just was like not she was just kind of hanging >> like she wasn't like I don't know. It wouldn't knock you unconscious.

[00:13:40]>> No. Like she just I thought she was dead after that, but then they said no, it wasn't that that killed her.

[00:13:46]>> Yeah, there's there's questions there with the actual mystery of this. Was it a fun time? Had a fun time, but the mystery maybe not quite as connecting of the dots. What about you?

[00:13:57]>> I I'm kind of right there with you. I found like I just found it kind of confusing. I thought it was too complicated for the time constraint. had they been like maybe a three episode mystery where they could have gone into more details and done everything because like you said it you're going down this way and all of a sudden they wrap up and say oh this is what happened.

[00:14:21]>> Yeah.

[00:14:21]>> Like there's nothing to give you that big leap. And so I found it from now unlike when we go back to Hannah.

[00:14:32]Well, I did pretty much think as soon as you saw Kimber, you're like, well, she's the she's guilty and she turned out to be guilty. But at least they gave us like red herrings where they were like, well, maybe this person did it or maybe they did it collective like you at least had things where you're questioning, right? So that in just structurally better mystery, but at the same time is too complicated and too many leaps, I think, to be a good, like you said, a good mystery. Was it fun? Absolutely.

[00:15:09]Did they have a lot of good scenes put in there? Yes. And like, you know, we we been talking about um just, you know, cat going down the the uh uh well and things like that. Like, oh yeah, >> these were good good exciting things that they had built into it and everything, >> but >> at the end of the day, the glue >> just wasn't quite there from a mystery standpoint.

[00:15:36]>> Totally agree. Well, romance roundup.

[00:15:40]Um, obviously with this foresome, we have both couples finding love and then you have Nikki and Ben over there kissing as well. So, I think the actual tension between the couples are just the right speed because we have Nikki and Ben already kissing and already being a couple. So, I don't think that they have to rush the foresome into their relationships. I think they're doing it perfectly paced. like there there's stuff there, but they're not like forcing them instantly into each other.

[00:16:11]So, we have that tension. We have I mean, I would take a couple more movies of them not being together before eventually maybe they get together. So, I enjoy that. And I think because Nikki and Ben are there as like that steady couple, I I enjoy it. What about you?

[00:16:26]>> Yeah, I agree. Um the one thing though, you've got uh Sarah with Joey Porter.

[00:16:31]Joy Porter is the name of a Pittsburgh Steeler football player back from few years ago. heard of him >> where my wife uh would they they he came to the Cardinals for a little bit >> and so my wife was at a lunchon and got to meet him and has her picture with him of which for a while she had that like as the phone thing you know screen saver as opposed to me but >> I'm like what are you to do um but yeah so when I saw his name was Joey Porter I'm like that's interesting I dislike >> I don't know if there is a some sort Steelers connection because he's, you know, if you're a Pittsburgh Steeler fan, it's it's a pretty big name there.

[00:17:18]>> But I agree with you. I thought it they're they're they're all good. I think they're all viable cute couples at the end of the day, too, where you kind of are rooting for them to get together.

[00:17:30]I don't know, though. And I guess this isn't really in the romancing, but when they're like, "Okay, you guys are going to go undercover as these um parents, aren't they supposed to be like high school kids or something like that?"

[00:17:45]Like 15 years old. So, it doesn't seem like like Eli and um want to go and bring down that they're quite old enough to have kids to be touring >> this this high school with a very great >> pregnancy.

[00:18:03]>> I guess >> pregnancy Eric.

[00:18:05]>> Okay.

[00:18:06]>> All right. Well, character corner or scene that we enjoyed. I personally when I kind of was thinking I'm like I loved the ending when they all walked out of the courtroom with Ben Ays and they all stand in that line after they busted the real killer. I just thought that was such a cool scene. Every time I like stopped what I was doing and watched that scene. I just I just really I don't know why. Maybe it's like a from the cartoon or something like where they just all are like yes we are the superheroes. We are the justice warriors. I I really enjoy that. So, keep that up. That's fun.

[00:18:43]>> So, I've got little scattered ones because they're more kind of like little lines, but they I guess they're sort of sum it up. The when they're undercover and they're doing the catering event and then you you have uh I don't know why I keep never remember their real names. Alex is in the van doing the surveillance and instead he's playing with his dog and forgets everything that's going on. That would >> 10,000% be me. I would be just like so distracted by my dog doing it. And then when they bust them, which I found kind of like funny in a way, but it's kind of what you do in these mysteries, right?

[00:19:22]You have to go do the announcement of it in front of everybody. But you had Sarah be like when she's like, "Who are you?

[00:19:30]We're the Justice Warriors." And then Cat's character is like, "Um, no, not now. Now not now is not the time." Like I found that that that funny. So there just like I say a lot of those like little moments where like I say I think that Nikki and Megan do a really good job of figuring out ways to take it's not a funny mystery per se like I said like a cases but a way to interject lightness throughout it and uh so I I just really liked those little moments and so it's a series of them.

[00:20:04]>> I like it. Well, trivia time. I feel like this trivia might be what you >> Wait, wait, one last question. Okay, so along those lines, >> would you go down the well?

[00:20:18]>> Heck the no.

[00:20:20]>> Okay, I'm totally claustrophobic. I can't even do an MRI without getting uh >> medicated.

[00:20:25]>> So, >> no.

[00:20:26]>> Like when they were looking around there and I I >> I would do some rock climbing where it's more open, but no, I don't think I could go down a well without being totally freaked out.

[00:20:35]>> Yeah, I liked I like that was like the other one when Cat's like, "Oh, great. I guess I'm going to be the one, >> you know, going down basically to my death." I found that a funny scene, too.

[00:20:46]>> Well, our trivia, again, I'm pretty sure you might have brought this with the first movie, so I'm just going to bring it again.

[00:20:54]It's been a few years, so people would have forgot. I forgot until I'm like, "Wait, I think you might have brought this." In True Justice Family Ties, the main character and in this one, Casey Barlo, well, actually in Fantes ally Maya while going undercover and Katherine McNamera, who plays Cassie, >> previously played a popular character named Maya or Mia on the superhero series Arrow. Did you bring that last? I feel like Okay, great. So, there we go.

[00:21:26]A little fun. Mia or Maya? I'm not sure which way they pronounce it. What do you got?

[00:21:32]>> Mine was pretty simple. Um that you got Marcus talking about like, oh, I want to go to go to school in Georgia and all that. And our writer Nikki Delos is from Georgia.

[00:21:45]>> So, I am sure she's doing a little personal nod >> to her, you like home state >> and everything there.

[00:21:55]>> Okay. Um, also one more trivia because I'm just noticing this. I was pulling up the ratings just to see what viewers kind of thought of this movie. Um, and there's already one on IMDb. It doesn't have a a title, but it says True Justice 3: Lost Love. So, might be getting that hopefully this year, but um right now the ratings for the >> I'm guessing September by the way or September. That's your >> um or early October. Kind of remember how we had the mystery right before >> Countdown to Christmas started. That's my prediction for Next True Justice.

[00:22:31]>> Okay. Well, the first movie had a 6.4 rating overall and right now >> this movie has a 6.9 rating.

[00:22:39]>> Interesting.

[00:22:40]>> We will see.

[00:22:41]>> You're not on social. I will put out a poll >> and see what >> and I'll find out which we won't be able to talk about for a little bit but it'll just be interesting to find out >> um or even a poll to see which of the ones >> actually what we'll do after what we do is after all three mystery yeah >> we'll ask people what their favorite was >> there we go all right well and chill of course I have to share my murder she wrote um season 10 episode 5 because this fits perfectly two reasons like the black and white filming during the party where people would look at the camera and they were, you know, talking to the guy in the van like murder wrote had that while Jessica had her virtual reality goggles on just like Kimber's child.

[00:23:24]>> I remember sending you that picture when I saw >> and so yes, it's a it's a gift. It's a common gift that Jessica has her goggles and like her little gloves. So, for me, this this movie would be a perfect way if you want to watch like VR, but back in like the early 90s when this episode aired on Murder She Wrote. It's kind of a fun little week. So, and it's a cute episode. I didn't I didn't mind that one.

[00:23:47]>> Have you ever done VR?

[00:23:49]>> No, but my husband and my oldest child did at the state fair. I don't know why I didn't. Oh, I think I had on it. My littlest guy was like a baby, so I was holding him. And the other two um did the VR. And they both It was really, it was kind of fun and entertaining watching them because my oldest was like, you know, he really thought he was playing soccer with the professionals.

[00:24:10]So, it was kind of fun. Have you?

[00:24:12]>> Yeah. Yeah. And it is weird because you sit there and you think you're in like this massive space and you actually are in kind of a little space >> and in the back of your mind like you have all this stuff but in the back of my mind I kept thinking I'm going to trip over something because I can't I know I'm in it. And even though I was in like this area where there was nothing to trip over, I just had in the back of my mind I was going to trip because you can't see real really see.

[00:24:43]>> A >> so the interesting thing like I told you I'm like totally claustrophobic. Uh the the I was at this um it was a electronics convention thing for gaming and um the guy told me he's like, "Oh, you may get claustrophobic. People get claustrophobic." and being claustrophobic. I was like, "Oh crap."

[00:25:03]>> But I I didn't I didn't have that feeling. Like I said, I just had that thing of like, "Oh, >> I don't know what's really around me, and my world is different than what I know consciously know the world is, >> right?" So, that was like kind of a weird little mental thing.

[00:25:21]>> Well, what about you, Hallmark and Chill? I'm going with uh a little Daro and Daro because once again the legal aspect of it. It's one of the ones I don't think you particularly like it. I think it's one of the it's a fun underrated mystery series. I would like to I think there were four of them if I'm not mistaken. Kimley William Paisley like I was always like h I love her in that one. Wendy Malik is in it. It was absolutely fantastic. Tom Kavanaaugh who's in the Acorn. Uh, you're killing me. Great in that one. But allstar cast, the daughter, I'm not too big of a fan of her. She's a little annoying, but whatever. Kids in Hallmark, right? But Darwin Daro, you get that little legal mystery uh feel going.

[00:26:09]>> All right. Well, next week we are going to talk Haunted Harmony key to the castle.

[00:26:15]>> All right. Until next time.

[00:26:17]>> Bye.

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