This video critiques Christian apologetics for using overly abstract arguments that regular people cannot engage with, specifically addressing the problem of evil and its common responses like free will and personal growth, which fail to adequately explain tragedies like hurricanes destroying towns or babies getting cancer. The speaker argues that many apologetics arguments are so far removed from reality that they require extensive research or philosophical training to understand, and that some arguments lead to logically heinous conclusions when followed to their endpoints.
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Birth Control, Trump's Cards, And The Problem Of EvilAdded:
Transformed wife says birth control led to fornication, abortion, and birth rates tanking. It was an evil invention that Romans 1:30 states. God created sex for marriage, enjoyment between a husband and his wife, and making babies.
His ways are beautiful. Stay on the narrow path, women.
No.
It's It's Lori Alexander. I can just respond with no. Also, hi Leftist Gamer Memes. Romans Romans chapter 1 was a rhetorical trap meant to get Christians nodding along with Yeah, yeah, those pagans are really nasty. But then as soon as Romans chapter 2 hits, he springs the trap and is like, "Yeah, you guys are just as bad. Stop doing that."
But don't worry. Non-Christians ignore the second part of that and just go like, "Yeah, they're so bad and nasty."
But also like Romans 1 is about idolatry. It's not about >> [bell] >> Like, it's not that sexual deviance stray from the path or whatever. It's that because they are engaged in idolatry, God makes them sex sexual deviance. So, they don't have any choice in the matter.
Also, Angry Eyes, thank you for the follow. I appreciate it. Said y'all frozen for me, but hey, someone suggested you. I hope everything's going well. It is. I I guess I'm saying words into the ether though because you're not able to see it if we're frozen.
Okay.
Um next up we have Donald Trump say he posted a meme of himself saying, "I have all the cards." And I immediately laughed at this one when I saw it. Do you Can Do Do you know why, Siris? There are two reasons. He has all the cards So, they're they're Uno cards. Uh-huh.
What's the goal of the game of Uno? To have fewer cards. You want to get to zero cards. You want to have none of the cards. So, he has all of the cards in a game where having all of the cards means he loses. And on top of that, he is holding the cards in such a way that everybody can see his hand. He's not a very smart person. So, he's he's he's showing his hand and having all the cards in a game where having all the cards means you lose.
>> He's a pretty fart smeller.
Th- This is This is one of those accidentally correct things that he's posted. God, I love our president. He's so cool. He's so great and cool and neat.
Yeah.
Frank Turek says, "One of the arguments we have for God's existence is evil itself. Not because God is doing evil, but because he's the standard of good by which we don't even know what evil was."
By which I assume he means he's the standard of good without which we don't even know what evil was.
But like I feel like I don't need some absolute standard of good to know that like when I stubbed my toe it feels bad. Yeah.
Yeah, I man, I'm just curious how and this is a thing that I've I've noticed over the years with Christian apologists and it's it's not like some profound thing oh, I found this one weird thing. No, it's just a kind of a standard thing.
Is it weird how head in the cloudsy they are?
A lot of times because it feels like so many of the arguments so many of the apologetics are thinking about things as if we don't exist in reality. It's thinking about things so far into weird this and not even hypotheticals cuz this isn't even a hypothetical. This is like thinking of things in so far of a weird like a meta way that it's almost Jordan Peterson levels of obtuse sometimes.
Uh speaking of which Jordan Peterson will no longer be in public life. That's a that's a cool thing that happened recently.
Oh, really? Yeah, his wife his wife just confirmed it. I thought you were going to say his wife left him cuz usually a right-wing figure not being in public life anymore means that they got caught sexually abusing someone. Oh, no, we didn't get a we didn't get a I miss my wife tails I miss her a lot moment for Jordan Peterson. No. Uh but anonymous gifter thank you for gifting a tier one sub to leftist memes. But yeah, no, it's just so many of these feel so like head in the sky to me where a a regular person can either engage with it by doing a bunch of research and figuring out what everything they're saying means and then come back [ __ ] 6 months later after taking a little course on philosophy or they just kind of have to nod and go, "That sounds like smart words."
And I feel like more often than not it's people who are nodding and saying that sounds like smart words cuz that's what they do on Sunday in church.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's just this this is one of the things where like apologists are so far missing the mark from this. It like usually the response to the problem of evil is something about like it it it'll it's either free will or personal growth, neither of which really covers a hurricane destroying a town. Correct.
Um but like how does free will and personal growth result in babies getting cancer?
Like my baby died of cancer, therefore I am a better person now? How how is that the actions of a good god? You don't understand.
>> is it that I wouldn't be able to not like that without god?
It was a learning experience for the baby. Don't you know?
>> my favorite my favorite is Cameron Bertuzzi when he when he tried to make that argument cuz he he explicitly it was like, "Okay, well, babies die and they go straight to heaven, so they have not had a chance for the personal growth that you experience through evil on Earth. But there's still personal growth in heaven and it's just as good as that that we experience on Earth." It's like, "Okay, well, if that is the case then why not just make everybody in heaven? Cuz the personal growth is still there and it's still Oh, shit." Also, if he really believes that that bit about babies going to heaven and therefore that's good. Okay, cool. Then you should be pro-abortion because if you abort a baby by those standards, then the baby automatically goes to heaven. What is the goal of every Christian? It is to make sure that more people can go to heaven. It is God's decree on them to be fishers of men, to bring people to him.
How can you maximize the amount of people that you are bringing to God?
Kill all the babies.
Like when that is your when that is your position, that is your logical conclusion.
>> goes down. That's [laughter] your logical conclusion.
And it sounds heinous cuz it [ __ ] is.
So sorry, I'm a little bit distracted. I had a closed beer can fall down and then a slight puncture in the side. So there was beer spraying all over my office just now. Jesus Christ. So I'm I'm Excuse me, wiping my keyboard off and uh saving the crap that it fell into.
Oh, excuse me. I don't know why I'm Freedoming says, "We do know United States democracy is dead, right?" Um so no. United States democracy is not dead.
What we have right now, unfortunately, is a version of the United States where we are going to have to get far more bottom-up power than we have. It's not that it's dead, it's that it's power has waned. There's a fundamental difference between the two. If it's dead, the only course we have is violence. But it's not dead because we have options that aren't violence.
My stream being down suggests otherwise.
Oh well, you know, you're right. Sorry, I lied to all of you. I'm a terrible person. You're right.
>> [laughter] >> Oh, excuse me. I got hiccups now, apparently. You do seem to have them.
I think this is the last tweet, so there we go. Um so Area Face said, "Why would an adult believe in God?"
Wendell retweeted that saying, "Why would an adult believe that nothing created everything? That an uncaused expansion from absolute nothing to somehow produce the finely tuned laws of physics, DNA, consciousness, and a Excuse me, the perfectly balanced for life. So, this is a point I've been making my videos recently is that if [snorts] the nothing that supposedly existed before the universe was actually a philosophical nothing that did not include the laws of physics, He's you're lying.
>> No, it's just the hiccups.
Excuse me.
But if that is the kind of nothing that existed before the universe, then there there was literally nothing stopping the universe from coming from nothing because the reason you can't get something from nothing is because of the laws of physics. So, if there were no laws of physics, you can get something from nothing.
Did Pope patched out per >> [laughter] >> Pope the Pope patched out purgatory babies?
Jesus Christ.
Don't know what that means.
When video games get patches, they are updates to the game. The Pope being the guy who can tell you whether or not certain people are going to go to heaven based on arbitrary standards. I know what a patch is. So, Right. So, the Pope is relevant here. It this just a joke about the Who Who would you say is the person who could patch out aborted babies going to heaven in evangelical circles? Who's the developer there? Jesus?
>> [laughter] >> No, you know it's Paul, not Jesus. You and I both know that.
>> Okay. Yeah, yeah.
That's fair.
It's weird that the guy who It's weird that the the guy who said uh who Jesus said was the rock on which Christianity would be built didn't end up writing a single book of the Bible.
And then some unknown guy from decades later is actually the guy who wrote the most foundational documents of the religion.
Anyway, I think this is the last tweet.
What the [ __ ] is going on? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.
Twitter was trying to Don't you want to go to Twitter Pro? So, Twitter Twitter was trying to get me today. It was like, "Oh, we're half off now."
And uh one of the features for their most expensive tier is uh XPro, which is a tool for users who live on X.
Monitor multiple timelines on a single screen. And I saw that and I was just like, "That is so [ __ ] sad."
Yeah, it's it's for cat turd. Like it it makes me sad that anyone would actually need this feature.
Cuz I mean, again, it's just cat turd.
This is That's who it's for.
Well, and Elon Musk, did you see that uh apparently he uh he is running his mother's account. Yes, I did.
>> And he accidentally posted a thing as not his mother, but from his mother's account to like boost his own thing.
Remember, he is a man to be taken very seriously. He is Amanda?
He is a man to be taken very seriously.
>> You said he is Amanda. Okay. Well, I mean, technically, he could be if he wanted to, but he keeps arguing against us about that.
Anyway, that is the actual last thing.
So, uh we'll call it for today. Okay.
Uh Piper, for when you're editing, please remove all of the stuff that got me banned from Twitch.
Yeah.
Same for you, KFox. I don't know why Sirs didn't get banned, but let's not push it.
>> [laughter] >> No, but then I can make then I can make a YouTube video about my free speech was violated by Jeff Bezos. Here's how. I mean, there we go. But I mean, sure.
Whatever. I can't talk anymore cuz hiccups, so whatever. [ __ ] off. Bye.
Jesus Christ.
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