The host effectively dismantles reactionary rhetoric by demanding the logical rigor of a formal syllogism. It is a sharp demonstration of how empirical data can collapse bad-faith arguments built on shifting goalposts.
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Coming up next is Joe. Joe is calling to talk about topic number six, systemic racism and white privilege exist. Joe, if you can hear me, please provide me with your age and pronouns.
Bro, I'm 20 and my pronouns mind-bogglingly enough are he and him.
Great.
I don't know why that's mind-bogglingly.
I've never spoken to you before, so I would have had no idea what they were, but okay.
I maybe maybe this tone of my voice would give you a decent idea. Joe, Joe, hey Joe, Joe, hey Joe, just real quick. You know I asked you the question before you spoke, right?
Uh what was the question?
I asked you what your pronouns >> were before you said a single sentence to me. Uh well, Joe is a male name actually. I there are million women named Joe.
I've never met a female named Joe.
Have you ever heard of J.K. Rowling? Do you know what her first name is?
[ __ ] >> J.K. Rowling? I have no clue what her first name is. Is it Is it Joe?
Goofy as [ __ ] Joe. Anyway, you're calling to talk about topic number six, systemic racism and white privilege existing. Yes, sir.
>> You disagree, and if so, why?
Well, I disagree because uh my my issue is, right? 13% of the population uses a 50% of the welfare. $20 million in welfare is going to the black community, right? That comes out of my pocket, right? My people contribute to this country. What can you >> Can you tell me what the blacks contribute to society that outweighs all of the negatives of having them here?
What do they [crying] contribute that outweighs all the the negatives? This is what you're doing right now. Just letting you know.
>> [crying] >> Well, I mean I mean you can you can insult me, right? You can tell me what I'm doing being wrong, wrong, wrong. Or you can give a reason as to why I should allow black people to be [crying] in my country.
This is you.
That's you.
That's what you sound like right now.
That is exactly what I'm doing.
>> actual argument Do you have an actual >> trying because there are people using all of our welfare, right? There are [crying] people doing crimes.
And they don't actually contribute to this society. [crying] >> [screaming] >> This is what you sound like.
Are you Are you capable of telling me how they contribute?
>> have an actual [screaming] argument?
[crying] I just stated my argument. I stated statistics behind [crying] it, why I don't want these people here, and I asked you to refute what you just said.
>> white people as well because they use welfare?
If they're not contributing, yes, kick them out. Do you think all black people are not contributing?
>> I believe in a system I believe the majority are not.
>> of people on welfare that are working jobs?
Um probably pretty high. I think it's like 95%.
>> hear probably. I don't want to hear probably. If you know the statistics I believe it's 95%. I'm pretty confident it's pretty >> on welfare when most of them are working jobs?
>> Well, because you're obviously not working hard enough if you can't feed yourself, [crying] right? Like I work, right? I'm 20 years old and I contribute, right?
>> [crying] >> I'm 20 years old and I'm above like >> Your argument has already fallen apart.
>> of the majority of black >> already fallen apart.
You You haven't refuted it. All I did was ask you to to state how black people contribute to society that outweigh the negative.
Okay, then what's Then what's Then what's the answer to my question?
>> pretty easy to refute your argument.
>> Your argument was that because they're on welfare, I'm sorry, it's not your show. Please speak when only spoken to.
>> I'm sorry, it's not your show. Please don't What? Are we talking to me?
Sorry, now you're muted. Learn your place and only speak when spoken to.
You weren't being spoken to yet, so don't speak.
Okay?
When you hear the beep again, that's when you're unmuted. So wait for the beep and know your place. It's under my foot.
Anyway, your nonsensical argument was black people don't contribute, that's why they're on welfare, because they're on welfare and they don't contribute, they should be kicked out of the country. You acknowledge that 95% of the people on welfare are working, meaning therefore they do contribute, and then your goal post moved to well, they are not contributing enough. Do you have an argument you can make where the goal post doesn't move 100 times?
Uh well >> Where was the beef higher than you?
>> First off, you you misunderstood my argument. One.
>> Didn't. Clearly didn't. Your argument was they don't contribute. Your argument was they don't >> No, my black people >> My argument is not because black people are on welfare, right? My Your argument was that they don't contribute. Your argument was they don't contribute. Your argument was they don't contribute. If they're working, they are contributing.
Try again.
Uh are we going to continue interrupting me or are you going to actually allow me to speak? I want you to try again with an actual like cohesive argument.
>> I believe you're a bit I believe you're a big boy. You're You're pretty big. I believe Okay, well, you're going to be muted again. It's not your show. I only want to hear the argument. Here, we'll make it super simple. We'll make it super simple for you. All right, check you later, Risha.
We'll make it super simple for you.
Super simple. All I want is a comprehensive syllogism out of you.
So, when we when I take the call back, I just want a syllogism. That's all I want to hear out of you is a syllogism for your argument. If you say anything besides a comprehensive syllogism for your argument, I'm going to take that as a concession, and I'm just going to move on.
Okay?
So, here we go. I want to hear a syllogism.
Let's go. You're unmuted now.
My issue with America is that the [ __ ] are 13% of the population and using 50% of the welfare, committing 80% of the crimes. Great. You're muted again.
That was not a syllogism.
Um if you want to admit to me that you're stupider than a black man today, then why don't you do that?
Because I asked you for a syllogism.
All you did was decide to drop a slur like I was going to give a [ __ ] about that. I don't care about your stupid slurs. I care about the argument, which you don't seem to give a [ __ ] about. So, I get it. You're not smart enough to have this conversation. It's cool.
You've got your little talking points and you're ready to defend them. I'm going to unmute you again. If you do slur a second time, I'll have to drop you. So, if you want to make the concession that you're dumber than a black man right now, you want to make that concession. I am stupider than a black man. All you need to do is slur again and I'll drop you.
And then we'll have that acknowledgement. Or you can provide a syllogism.
And in that syllogism, you can make a sound and logical argument.
You are unmuted. Let's hear the syllogism.
>> [ __ ] has an IQ of 75. Thank you for proving my point.
Thank you for proving my point. You're stupider than me.
And you're probably stupider than every black person you've ever met. I'm glad that you have shown your ass. Here, Joe.
I will be sending this call to your mom.
I think she'd be very interested to hear it.
So, don't worry, Joe. We're going to make sure that mama gets this call. I'm sure you're on her phone plan.
So, we're going to make sure mama gets this call.
Don't worry, bud.
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