Me & Vegan Gains DESTROY Anthony Chaffee’s Insulin Claims

Added: 2026-05-31

[00:00:00]That is not true.

[00:00:07]>> Okay, I'm going to be reacting to Vegan Gains reacting to Anthony Chaffee, who's going to show up here, I guess. I haven't watched it yet. Someone told me to come watch this, so let's watch together and see what kind of uh shenanigans goes on here.

[00:00:26]>> Two things that prove that humans are not meant to eat carbohydrates. First is >> water.

[00:00:30]>> Do you know that we have the wrong kind of insulin for carbohydrates? Think about it. When we eat carbohydrates, our blood sugar spikes, insulin goes up, but then blood >> Oh, no.

[00:00:40]>> Okay.

[00:00:42]Uh protein is insulinogenic, dumb ass.

[00:00:47]So, if you eat a meal high in protein, your insulin is going to go up.

[00:00:51]Insulin is required to metabolize both carbohydrates and protein.

[00:00:57]>> Right.

[00:00:59]>> Uh like I I just So, are are humans not supposed to eat protein? Is protein bad for us, too?

[00:01:08]I also don't understand what the [ __ ] problem is with your blood sugar going up after a meal.

[00:01:14]>> Yeah.

[00:01:14]>> It Guess what? If you eat fat, fat in your blood goes up after a meal.

[00:01:20]If you eat protein, protein in your blood goes up after a meal. If you eat carbohydrates, glucose in your blood goes up after eating a meal. That's how [ __ ] nutrients are distributed throughout your [ __ ] body, you [ __ ] idiot. No [ __ ] If you eat something, you're going to see a postprandial increase in that thing after a [ __ ] meal.

[00:01:44]>> That [ __ ] drops down too low.

[00:01:46]I think Vegan Gains gets even more frustrated about this stuff than me, but he's right.

[00:01:53]What the hell are you talking about? So, whatever you ate, that thing goes up in your bloodstream after you ate. I mean, that's not a problem. Um And as far as insulin goes, yes, protein Uh for example, um yogurt can produce as much insulin as white bread.

[00:02:11]Uh let's see, what else we got?

[00:02:15]Um but whey protein will produce more even more of an insulin response than white bread. Uh fish and beef, specially lean beef, will produce as much insulin as a bowl of oatmeal or something like that. It's not that Oh Did we always avoid protein in our in our history? Did our ancestors avoid protein, too? What are you talking about? Um I'm going to talk about that in a bit more after we finish here with with Richard and and this guy. Um We we have been eating carbohydrates for a long time.

[00:02:51]These people try to say, "Oh, it's only since the birth of agriculture."

[00:02:54][ __ ] Okay, let's watch more.

[00:02:58]>> Hello, because insulin keeps >> Yeah, no, uh eating carbohydrates doesn't cause your blood sugar to drop too low after a meal.

[00:03:06]>> keeps going. So, we have to keep eating more carbs and more insulin. We keep having this balance all throughout the day. I mean, we can't get our blood sugar right as a result. Did you know we actually had to reinvent insulin for type 1 diabetics and type 2 diabetics who require insulin? So, instead of just >> No, we didn't. Uh there's different types of insulin. Uh there's short-acting, long-acting, uh and like medium-acting. They just have different half-lives and they're used for different reasons.

[00:03:32]So, [snorts] depending on the needs of the patient, there's short-acting and longer-acting insulin. Some of it also has to do with just ease of use. If you use a long-acting insulin, um it just allows somebody to take less injections and not have to monitor their blood sugar so closely.

[00:03:51]>> just giving normal insulin that our body would make and replacing that instead they have you given things like Actrapid, Novorapid that have a sharper spike to match that carbohydrate spike.

[00:04:01]If our normal insulin was made for carbohydrates, then why is it we had to make a new insulin for this? In fact, >> What you're saying just doesn't make any [ __ ] sense.

[00:04:22]>> [music] [music] [music] [music] [music] >> When type 1 diabetics go to a ketogenic approach and they're not taking in carbohydrates, they still need some insulin, especially for protein cuz this will give a bit of a rise, but the insulin that most matches that protein curve is actually our normal insulin.

[00:05:07]So, they're given the old style insulin that actually perfectly matches that protein curve. So, our insulin is designed for protein, not carbohydrates.

[00:05:15]>> Follow up.

[00:05:16]>> No.

[00:05:17]>> Secondly, our teeth and dentition.

[00:05:19]Carbohydrates select for certain bacteria that actually cause cavities in our teeth. No animal in the wild eats a natural diet that rots their teeth. If an >> That is not true.

[00:05:32]>> Hello there. I'm Mark, former low-carber turned high-carb, low-fat, and loving it. I'm producing the results of my life in my mid-40s. Now, I consider liking and subscribing, and please get my free book Eat Lean, Get Lean. You will get lean, and you will stay that way for the rest of your life. Thank you.

[00:05:55]>> Uh like, by the way, any animal that lives long enough is going to have dental caries. Uh animals don't live very long, so generally they don't have to worry about this, but any animal that lives long enough, they're going to end up having dental caries. Doesn't matter if they're a [ __ ] carnivore or whatever.

[00:06:16]Y- your teeth don't heal and repair and regenerate. So, yeah, over time, if you live long enough, you're going to have dental caries.

[00:06:26]>> If an animal loses its teeth in the wild, it dies because it cannot eat, it cannot function. No natural biological diet will cause any species of animal to rot their teeth. So, >> It's It's just a total made-up fabrication.

[00:06:40]>> So, by definition, any food that rots the teeth [music] of any animal is not designed for that animal, and is not >> Okay, so, uh I guess like every [ __ ] chimpanzee, uh every like great ape or like primate species, they're not eating their natural diet because they all eat uh plants and fruits that either wear away at their enamel, uh or uh again, they're eating sugary fruits that uh will also help produce bacteria that will wear away their teeth.

[00:07:18]L- like like what he's saying doesn't make any sense.

[00:07:22]Again, your teeth erode j- just physically.

[00:07:28]So, it like if you're chewing on something that is going to wear down your teeth, given a long enough time, you will develop dental caries. It's just inevitable if you live long enough.

[00:07:42]Here's your [ __ ] optimal health, [ __ ] [ __ ] loser.

[00:07:48]>> Yeah, let's get a bit of that going.

[00:07:50]Your optimal health, but Okay, listen.

[00:07:55]They Go back He says carbohydrates weren't meant for humans. Bollocks.

[00:08:01]Go back a million years, yeah?

[00:08:04]We There are starch residue on tools found. We know that human beings were starting to eat starches, tubers.

[00:08:12]Go back 800,000 years ago.

[00:08:15]Chimpanzees [music] that have the gene that codes for an enzyme called amylase in our saliva which starts to break down starch and turn it into glucose.

[00:08:28]Chimpanzees have about one to two copies.

[00:08:31]We have four to 15. And that started 800,000 years ago. There's only one reason why that massive boost in that enzyme happened.

[00:08:42]And it's because we were eating starch.

[00:08:45]When these people start saying, "It's the birth of agriculture and we started getting all these problems from carbohydrates." [ __ ] [ __ ] Stop talking [ __ ] okay?

[00:08:55]300,000 years ago, again, the the starch residues on the tools, the the starch in the the dental calculus. So, we were You know we were actually eating starches and they were cooking starch tubers and and plants.

[00:09:12]And then up to the present day, we have like 15 plus copies of the gene that codes for amylase because we eat carbohydrates.

[00:09:20]We run our bodies on glucose. It's always the first preference, okay?

[00:09:25]And he talks about insulin at the start of the video.

[00:09:29]Um and I would give some examples of, you know, protein foods that are just as insulinogenic as carbohydrates. But this like Vegan Gains said, I mean, what's the problem anyway? It's not a problem insulin going up.

[00:09:43]This is all based on the carb-insulin hypothesis, which has been debunked.

[00:09:48]We talked about this just in my last video with the studies.

[00:09:52]Um I've spot them up on the screen real quick again so you can see them.

[00:09:58]A study comparing a standard American diet, which I do not recommend.

[00:10:03]It's high in sugar and fat together.

[00:10:08]But, put on the same calories as a group of people eating low-carb, high-fat. So, you have high one high-insulin group, one low-insulin group. Fat loss outcomes were exactly the same. No difference.

[00:10:19]Another study.

[00:10:20]>> [music] >> These are controlled metabolic ward studies, by the way.

[00:10:25]Like the gold standard.

[00:10:28]High-fat, low-carb against high-carb, low-fat this time. Not standard American diet. A truly low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet. Um matched for calories.

[00:10:42]So, high-insulin group, low-insulin group. The higher-insulin group, high-carb, low-fat lost even more body fat. Quite a lot more body fat. It doesn't matter. The The hypothesis is wrong. Stop worrying about my insulin levels and all this stuff. It doesn't matter. Okay?

[00:10:59]So, either way you slice it, he's talking about oh, we weren't meant to eat carbs. We know we're meant to eat carbs. We've been doing it for hundreds of thousands of years.

[00:11:08]>> [music] >> We We adapted very well to it. Our bodies are primed for the consumption of carbohydrates, in my opinion, in particular, starches, but also vegetables and fruits.

[00:11:19]And if you eat a diet like that with the addition of lean meat, you've got it, mate. You're eating a truly human diet. Our ancestors did eat meat. You don't have to, by the way.

[00:11:31]Vegan Gains doesn't.

[00:11:33]He's doing okay. I'm not someone who says that just because I'm not a vegan that a vegan diet is unhealthy. I don't think it is.

[00:11:40]>> [music] >> I think it can be perfectly healthy on a vegan diet. I just choose not to be.

[00:11:45]Um but the animals we were eating in the wild weren't all fat animals.

[00:11:49]Do you think they were eating gorging on fatty meat?

[00:11:51]>> [music] >> The only fat animals there are are the ones that we domesticate, the ones that we we fatten up, the human beings fatten up. Where are all the fat animals in nature?

[00:12:03]Especially going back then. Do you think there were big fat animals running around? I mean, there's there's no way these people could have consumed a truly high-fat diet.

[00:12:12]They weren't, and we know they were eating starch. So, you can have the historical data, you can have the biological data from the the adaptation to with the increase in amylase, or the the modern day studies comparing high insulin groups with low insulin groups.

[00:12:30]It's all bollocks.

[00:12:32]Low carb, keto carnivore, whatever whatever which whatever one you want to do, it's all bollocks. It's not true.

[00:12:39]>> [music] >> Eat your carbohydrates. You'll you love carbohydrates. That's the reason we love them so much because we're supposed to eat them. Our body is telling us to go eat them. Your body's not working against you by making you crave carbohydrates. It's making you crave them because that's what it prefers to run on. Now, I would love to coach you and get you lean.

[00:12:59]It's the one thing that I'm really passionate about because I love the results. That's the best part. When people come back to me and they're losing all this body fat while eating foods they actually enjoy, >> [music] >> it's one of the biggest um joys of my life to see that for people. So, look for the Excuse me.

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