Africans participated in internal slave trades long before European colonization, including selling slaves to Romans and engaging in the subsaharan slave trade, which challenges the narrative that Europeans were the sole oppressors of Africans.
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I was born in Nigeria.
>> You was born in Nigeria, but you end up going to Germany.
>> Mhm.
>> How do you like it living out there?
>> Well, it's it's it's good, but it's very it's not it's not easy for black people.
>> It's what?
>> It's not so easy here when you're >> It's not so easy for Africans there. Why you say that?
>> Like the racism here is is stopped here, bro.
>> The racism. You saying there's no racism in Germany?
>> There is. There is a lot. like how how do they discriminate against you?
>> It's like it's not like America, but America is kind of worse. But it's like the same almost the same thing like the way people treat you, the way they um address you. They they like racist groups of people who come out and just start um sharing the N word for no reason. They are like um there are some incident of police shootings on black men, you know, for no reason.
So, >> so, so you you you do know that they know that you African, right? That you're not black. You're not a black American. They know that you African.
>> Yeah. But I don't really care. I think we all the same. But >> you think we all the same.
>> I think we black. I think if you have dark skin, I don't care if you are dark skin, Jamaican, African-American, African, but I feel like we all the same. So, >> no, we're not all the same. And we're not African-Americans either. We not African, sir.
>> You >> black Americans are not African. What what continent did you come from?
America.
>> America. North America.
>> Actually, America is not even a continent. It's a country.
>> North America is the continent.
>> How did you get to America? Like, how is that possible?
>> We We were already in America. My roots are in America. Let me ask you the same question. You from Africa, right?
>> Yes.
>> Right. Now, where are your roots for real? Where are you really from?
>> I'm Nigerian.
>> Right. But where where are you really from?
I have like a ethnic group where I'm from.
>> Right. But no, I'm saying like where in Africa, right?
>> Yeah. West Africa. Yeah.
>> Right. Now, where was y'all before y'all was in Africa?
>> We were always in Africa.
>> Right. And I say the same thing about my people. We was always in America. So why is it that you think your answer is acceptable, but mine is not?
>> I don't think if you if you trace back history, I don't think that was like historically accurate. But I feel like all all black people come from Africa.
All black. No, they don't.
>> That's That's not true. Do you Do you believe that you came from monkeys?
>> What?
>> No. No. No. Don't laugh. Do you think that you came from monkeys?
>> No. No. No human being monkey.
>> If you if you believe that life, all life started in Africa, that Africans are the progenitors of life. Then you have to believe that you came from monkeys.
>> No human being came from monkeys.
>> No, no, no, no. That's what the whole theory is. That is the theory. Charles, >> evolution is false. Charles Darwin is the one who told you that Africans are the progenitors of life. He also said because y'all came from monkeys. So if you believe that everybody came from Africa, you have to believe that you came from a monkey as well. An African monkey to be exact.
>> Who am I?
>> He said like like we laughing but that's literally his theory.
>> Who am I? Go ahead. Unmute. You think all life started in Africa?
You think all melanated people come from Africa? Is that what you think? Yes.
>> So you believe you then you believe you're a monkeykey's uncle. There we go.
Rafiki. There we go.
>> I never said that we are monkeys. No human being.
>> No no no. You you can't take one without the other. That is the entire theory.
You have to take you have to take the full theory or you take none of it. You can't take what you like about it. You have to take the full theory. So if you believe if you believe that Africa started all life, you have to believe that you started from a monkey. That's >> I never said Africa started all I said I think that all life came from Africa.
That >> honestly like okay listen I don't think you can speak English bro.
>> I don't think so.
>> Listen we're speaking English. You speaking like >> I don't think she understands English.
>> No I I understand very well. You just don't understand the entire theory. You cannot cherryick what you want.
>> Ask he asked him to quote the whole theory and explain it in detail.
>> How does being African mean I come from we all come from monkeys? I never said all people I said melanated people come from Africa, >> right?
>> What is what is the basis of that theory?
>> Exactly.
>> That's what she's saying. What is the basis?
>> Like what do you base does that even mean? Like >> oh my god. Do do you understand what base means? Yes, I know what base means.
>> Okay. So, if you add a S, then it's the surrounding level. Correct. The baseline, the baseline level. So, what is the baseline level of the all life starts in Africa theory? Where does that >> I never said all life starts in Africa?
I never I don't even know what that means. Like, I don't know what that theory is.
>> Okay. Okay. Let me let me talk to him real quick. So, what makes you believe that all melanated people come from Africa? cuz that's what you said cuz you don't understand originator originated from you know because that's where all these um colonizers came from their lands I don't know where they came from where they from and came from enlaving I'm asking you what makes you believe that all melanated people came from Africa what makes you believe that >> cuz that's how it is that's how if you can trace your history if you trace history back you can see that all Africans most melanated people were in Africa before they were removed For instance, Jamaicans. Jamaicans have a lot of connections to Ghanaians. A lot of um how would I say Caribbeans have a lot of linkage to West Africans.
>> So, Hold on. That's because of the slave trade. Hold on. Hold on. Megan, that's because of the slave trade. That's not because they went there before the slave trade. There were indigenous people um who they believe were melanated in those places before the transatlantic slave trade.
>> Okay. But my question, let me ask you a question. Do you believe that it was melanated people all over the world?
>> No. In some certain areas, no.
>> So you don't So you don't believe what the colonizers say either? Even in Brazil, um they there were indigenous Brazilians there too that were black skinned. They called him Negro Derra.
And then they brought the slaves that came over. They called them negro de Guinea because they look like the people over in Guinea.
>> Maybe even the colonizers. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Who? Who am I? Even the colonizers knew the difference in between a an indigenous melanated person and an African melanated person. Sir, >> yeah, I need to do some research. But my my thing is, >> but you do need to do some research because you haven't any of this.
>> We all the same. There's no difference.
>> We're not the same. We don't look the same. We don't smell the same. Our culture is not the same. The only thing that we share similarities in is um having melanin and maybe some kinky hair, but our hair isn't even the same either.
>> I like allow to ask. So, so hold on. If I had to ask, so he believe in flat blackness.
>> He may not be familiar with that term cuz he didn't understand what the theory of evolution was in regards to.
>> Do you know who you >> do you know what flat blackness is? You know what flat blackness is out here?
>> No, I don't understand your >> How about flat flat blackness is what you just stated. All melanated people are the same. So you believe in that concept, right?
>> Yeah. All black people are the same.
>> So everybody the same on the continent of Africa.
>> What I mean by the same? I see the same race. Like we are all black.
>> No, no, no, no. Race is a European concept.
We talk about in Africa. So are y'all the same in Africa?
Like you as a Nigerian is the same as somebody who's from Tanzania.
>> If you bring a Nigerian Yeah. and a Ghanaian side by side, you can't tell the difference.
>> But but if you put a Nigerian next to a Somalian, Hold on, family. If you put a Nigerian next to a Somalian, can we tell the difference? Who am I?
>> Yes, because they are different looks.
But my point is that they're not the same.
>> So that mean they all not the same then?
>> They're not the same. And he knows it.
Because if y'all all were the same, then why isn't Africa united? Are all y'all the same people?
>> Yeah, because there was the dividing of before. Before there was no such thing as African countries before the, you know, white people came and started divid dividing. So the black man started thinking, oh, this guy is my enemy. This guy is my enemy. This guy is my enemy.
That's how it is.
>> Okay.
>> Was Africa ever united? Ever been united? Africa >> when? I never I don't really know, but I think we were more at peace, you know, back then.
>> I didn't say I said y was united.
>> How was y'all at peace when y'all been selling slaves and um rival clans and tribes way before the transatlantic slave trade or the Indian Ocean slave trade or any of those other slave trades that you guys participated in? most of this um narrative you guys think that it's not all Africans who sold but for where I'm from for my >> every country that I've researched so far has sold slaves willingly >> from my um perspective for my um tribe the what happened was they came >> what tribe you from you >> and Benin they came >> and they they took over they didn't say hey uh we're going to sell they took over so I don't really know >> who took Who else do you think took over?
>> The colonizers.
>> You You're saying they took Africa over and then started the slave trade. Sir, do you understand heard?
>> You don't I said my tribe, not the old Africa. Like, >> okay. Okay. So, what what what they were referencing earlier was the subsaharan slave trade. Are you familiar with that?
>> Subs. Is it like from Arabi? I think >> you know what's crazy? You know what's crazy, family, is that his tribe actually sold slaves. You were a descendant of people who sold slaves.
Get the likes up to 100K, family. You your your tribe sold slaves and they sold a lot of them.
>> A lot. A lot. Oh, bro. And and the reason I was asking you about the timeline cuz I wasn't sure. Are you familiar with the term the white man's graveyard?
>> No.
>> Have you ever heard that term before?
>> No.
>> So, there's a a drug called quinine.
Prior to that, the white man couldn't enter the interior of Africa. So they had to wholly rely on African slave traders who with no um prompt went on their own on slave raids, kidnapped and uh enslaved several different groups of people.
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Go ahead.
>> Okay. Yeah. They they who on their own and then engaged in commerce and trade.
So much so that the Europeans did come and attempt it by themselves, right, without the assistance of the African tribes. They failed miserably and they were being unal alive by the diseases that existed. Their they their their physiological condition could not survive until the invention and usage of quinine as a uh as a as a herbal supple or as a not herbal but as a supplement in order to >> that was in like the 1800s though when they got quite >> so prior to that >> that's when they did the scramble for Africa. Go ahead. Yeah.
>> So yeah. So prior to that they they full-fledged enga engaged in the uh skin trade. They they they even had credit systems. They they had relationships so good they would buy two, give you three, and pay me when you get them sold and have a ledger going. They would send their actual blood children with these people to their country so they can be educated in Europe. This isn't like I I understand the the the the understanding that you have because we all started there due to pan-Africanism and the way they lie. The Panaffrican narrative has been successfully spread around the world that uh the white the YT man came into uh Africa and and forced you all to forced Africans to participate in the in the uh skin trade when that's >> that's what that's what some did >> that's not how that happened sir >> that's what some did they subsaharan skin trade that existed prior to the uh to the uh the the YT man's uh arrival then when he Then when the YT man came, he was ineffective at uh at rounding up and capturing. So then he had to trade and bargain and pay specifically in order to engage in this.
>> So what happened? So what happened was they they they stayed on uh the coastlines, you know, they built the forts. The the people from the tribes and kingdoms let them build the forts and they went inland and brought and kidnapped slaves and they brought them back and was trading with these people.
They don't like admitting that part.
They love to come up here and play victim. Africa, you there? Everybody keep tapping the screen. Get the likes up to 100K.
>> Where you from?
>> Me? I'm West African. I'm a Liberian and Nigerian.
>> You're like half Liberian and half Liberian.
>> Correct.
>> I'm I'm sorry. Half Nigerian and half Liberian.
>> Correct.
>> Okay. Let me ask you. Are you in the US?
>> Me? No.
>> You in the UK?
>> No, no, no. I'm currently on business.
I'm in Gree right now. Business.
>> You got a UK accent though? Yeah, I went to international school.
>> Okay. We talked to him before. We talked to you the other day. So, let me ask you a question. Um, do you think black Americans, Africans, and Caribbeans have a common enemy?
>> Of course. Yeah.
>> And who is that enemy?
>> That would be the oppressor.
>> Who is the oppressor?
>> The European man.
>> And what what makes you say that?
>> Cuz the European man has oppressed all three groups.
>> He oppressed all three groups. But y'all but y'all helped them oppress those groups though.
>> Africans helped the white tea oppress other groups by selling them slaves.
Y'all sold them slaves. Would you are you disagreeing >> once again in terms of the oppression in Americas? That was Africans weren't there to oppress you. Africans you were oppressing people in your own on your own continent. That's how y'all got slaves to sell. Family, let me ask y'all a question. Do y'all think that selling slaves is oppression to my black Americans on the panel, Inc. Mega Prime?
Is that is that oppressing people?
Selling people. Not only Not only is it oppression, but if there was a RICO, they would be indicted in a RICO. They participated, facilitated, and kept a skin trade going the entirety of the time. So long so that when the Europeans told them, "We're uh we're abolishing uh skin trade," they said, "I love you like a brother. I would do anything for you except that because how am I going to feed my children and my wives and keep our lifestyle as it's been accustomed without this skin trade?
>> My brother, these narratives are not just >> they're not narratives. They're historical fact.
>> Can we can we go?
>> All right, bro. Can we get into some of the nittygr How did slavery start? How did transatlantic slave slave trade start?
>> So So hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Before we talk about the transatlantic slave trade, we have to talk about the slave trade where y'all was selling slaves to the Romans way before the transatlantic slave trade.
>> You can't I I don't I don't like how y'all start child history at the at the transatlantic slave trade.
>> There was there was slave trading going on on that continent far before the transatlantic slave trade. And you know, >> the kingdoms the kingdoms involved in the transatlantic slave trade are not the kingdoms that were involved in the Romans. So, I don't know. I don't know why you're bringing the Romans up as if like >> because because my point is my point is is that >> my point is is that y'all were selling slaves on that continent far before the transatlantic slave trade.
>> Hold on. The Romans are the Romans not Europeans.
>> No, the Romans. Yeah, but the Romans are Europeans. Those are >> those are Italians basically.
>> Yes, they are. You guys were not Wait a minute. Debunk. Aren't they also Europeans who are also colonizers?
>> Correct. The Romans are >> the Romans would be brought up as well.
>> Correct. But the Romans have nothing to do with the groups of people who were involved in the >> No, no, no. They do. They do because they they they've tried to colonize several times different African countries.
>> Incorrect. Incorrect. Africa.
>> No, that that is correct. They've tried to colonize several African countries.
Ethiopia was one of them.
>> Every time every tried to colonize Somalia, too.
>> Every time I try and bring up the Romans.
>> Hold on. If you meet me, don't bro.
>> Africa debunk this. One thing you ask me why why did I bring this up? I'm trying to get you to understand. You need to understand that this is a well-rounded conversation. We're not just talking about the transatlantic slave trade.
We're talking about the Indian Ocean slave trade. All of them. Y'all had multiple slave trades going on at one time. Okay? That's why I'm bringing up this. My whole point is that y'all were oppressing each other far before the white tea man came around.
>> Now can you oppressed y'all?
>> Can you let me finish please?
>> Go ahead.
>> All right. This now this now I think this is just like I think and I think this is a symptom of like the way Americans often speak about Africa as if it's a country. My guys >> Africa is a continent and we know that.
>> Can you let me finish?
>> How many states are in the US? Cuz now you talking how many states are in the US?
>> There's 50 states in the US. Stop speaking.
>> Well, good for you. I'm glad you know.
You're the first one that got it right.
>> If I can't speak a sentence without you and your the lady interrupting me.
>> Stop being stop being passive aggressive though. You got to say don't be passive aggressive.
>> Our education system is better than yours.
>> My guy, you you guys have been passive aggressive and I just ignored it. Can I ask you we speaking historical facts?
>> You've been passive aggressive? No, you've been incorrect time and time again.
>> So you telling me that we lying. So Africans didn't sell slaves.
>> So no, you're incorrect in in the nitty-gritty. You're incorrect when you make the reference as if Africa there's an internal African slave trade. There's no internal African slave trade.
You're in Can you let me finish? You're incorrect. You're incorrect when you make the parallel between the transatlantic slave trade and the and Roman slavery because the R the parts of Africa that the Romans were occupying and they operated with had nothing to do with the groups that were involved in the transatlantic slave trade. The Roman can let >> you no because you need to open your brain up and think >> we're not just talking about the transatlantic slave trade. How many times do I have to say that? Y'all participate in more than one slave trade. Get that through your thick ass head.
>> You won't let me speak. All of them all of a sudden >> I'm letting you speak, but stop focusing in on one thing. I'm not saying that they they had something to do with the transatlantic slave trade. My point is that it was slave trading going on all over the continent before that >> brother.
>> Goodness. Why is that so hard for you to understand your comprehension skills? If you meet me again, I'm just going to go because you're >> I don't give a [ __ ] I don't need you here. You can go get the [ __ ] out of here. Bye.
>> He do this every time he come up. He throw a hissy fit cuz he cannot respond and he start crying about leaving.
>> I think it's hilarious that he was going to correct us about uh slavery when what he essentially I think I even know the man argument. He was gonna try and say there's a difference between what the slavery we had in Africa and what occurred in America, which is true.
However, it does not negate the fact that you engaged in in in in the skin trade in Africa. It doesn't change the the the the the reference point you brought up, the uh the subsaharan reference point I brought up or their participation in transatlantic portion.
What happened in once the we got to the shores of America is its own unique animal. However, prior to that point, you are 1,000% guilty and wrong. You can't recorrect a historical narrative, bro. There are ledgers that have people there's a a company in England, I think it's called the the the the African uh the East African Trading Co or something like that. I got to I'mma pull it up cuz I was looking at the the bank ledgers and they tracked everything, >> who they was working with, how many people they sent, all of it.
>> Yep. And so look, just just to show y'all, were Africans selling slaves before the transatlantic slave trade? Yes. Forms of slavery and slave trading existed in many parts of Africa long before the transatlantic slave trade began in the 1400s.
You see that? Come on, man. I'm not going to sit I'm not going to play with him, dude. We know what we be talking about when we come up here. If you look up Abu Bakar um of Mali Empire that was the 1300s he you know it was rumored that he was might have discovered America but that's the 1300s and he was holding off Molly Empire from having slaves during that time cuz he didn't believe in it as emperor. That's the 1300s. So he was being forced to try to implement slavery into it. That was the 1300s. So before him it was taking place. So that's a good history point that you just pointed out with 1400s but Abubakar or Mali Empire go 1300s and before that his story is you know holding off slavery and saying we don't want to do it in Bali Empire.
>> So that's take it back to 1300.
>> I I would have to uh do some research on that because it seems like the Mali Empire was always okay with it. I have to look >> in space uh got his wealth. He sws like Never heard none of them say that they were >> before Mansam Musa.
>> Mansam Musa most definitely sold slaves and he was okay. That was part of how they got rich. Golden slaves.
>> That was it. No, slaves was the biggest part of >> Yeah. And and and and did you say that they discovered America? Cuz they didn't.
>> No, I didn't say they discovered some people did.
>> The rumor was that he had sent ships and they had landed in the Americas.
>> Yeah, that's a rumor. And and people try to like put this narrative out there that he discovered America, but that's why I say the rumor is No, hold on.
>> At 2 in the morning. My bad.
>> No, it's all good. I just I heard that when you was talking. I was just I was just making sure. Um because you know that's something that Dr. Umar been saying lately. These Africans be coming up here saying that they sent ships over here. Ain't no proof, nothing that they came over here. None of that. We even had somebody uh that Tanzanian girl MK come up here talking about some uh that's how we got here.
>> So indigenous people got to black people that's indigenous to America got here because of the Mali Empire. [ __ ] out of here.
>> They try toize us any chance they get.
>> The stories that came back out of the Mali Empire was that it was already people here that look just like us and that were us. So they didn't just in in a few ships that got lost repopulated multiple continents. Like that's just unrealistic. It's crazy how they make up stuff like that. But that you know those I was just using that as that reference point to point out that that's how they try to connect that to Abu Bak which was before which was the emperor right before manusa.
>> Yeah. And listen this is and what I'm talking about predates them. They were setting slaves to the Romans back in like 1100.
>> All right. So that that's before even they came around. All right. I'm tired of these people trying to act like they they um problem started when the transatlantics um I mean when you know the scramble for Africa happened. I'm tired of them trying to act like Africa was all in peace and they was all united. Then all of a sudden the Europeans came and then just messed everything up. That ain't what happened.
Trust me. If you are uh beefing with people and you kidnapping people, taking rivals as slaves and [ __ ] like that, G, that means there ain't no unity going on over there. That's what it means to me.
It mean y'all got a lot of divisive tribal xenophobic [ __ ] going on far before the YT man came along. And it also proves that they've been business partners with these people for a mighty long time. A very long time. Um yeah. So y'all can miss us with those lies.
I don't mind. I don't mind people coming up here talking, but you not gonna overt talk us. We got to make sure we speak one at a time, too, y'all. Let these people say what they got to say, then we gonna respond. Um, but yeah, y'all keep tapping the screen, get the likes up to 50K at least, and then we'll go from there. Um, but yeah, dude, every time he come up here, he crying. But I guess I could um Ink, what you think about this?
Do you think FBA's, Africans, and Caribbeans got a common enemy?
>> No, we don't. They don't even have a common enemy in Africa. So, how could they have a common enemy with us? And even the uh countries where we know they sold majority of their slaves to like Brazil, they don't see the Portuguese as their common enemy.
Those people are opportunists and leech.
They they leech off anything they can.
If it if it looks like an opportunity, that's what they going to jump on. So, no, we do not. and and they know we don't because he couldn't even name the true colonizer. Because here's the thing, you have to specify different colonizers, especially when it comes to black American history cuz we we didn't just have one. And it's weird that they just say, "Oh, the Europeans.
We didn't deal with the Italians until they start letting those people come over doing Ellis Island."
But we we do have history with the French. We do have history with the Spaniards. We do have history with the British.
So, who is who is our common enemy and it differs every time you go to somewhere else? I know from Louisiana Purchase is going to be the the French and the Spaniard.
I know if you go over to the East Coast, it's going to be the British.
That man don't know who his enemy is.
And if if that was true, you wouldn't be in the UK cuz you did have that enemy. Like again, they keep coming to America or going to the UK. If that's really your colonizer, why are you running to them? We didn't run to our our colonizers. We actually wanted to stay away from them. We have a history of that.
Them people was coming to our neighborhoods. In fact, they still do it to this day.
Like that gets annoying.
>> Yeah. And my my thing is um if all of them got the same enemy, then why haven't they come together and fought them off?
>> Because they don't the the and you'll see it even in the comments why he was whining and crying. The Ethiopians talking about we don't have a colonizer.
We were never coloniz like they they can't never seem to get on p on the same page, but they want to portray that to us on the internet or when they come over here. They always bragging about how they was never colonized, but they let them know like you almost got you almost got it. They almost they almost did it to you. And you know what's funny? No other African came to your rescue though.
>> I know, right? Imagine that a black American had to help you.
>> Black Americans had to help you. No Africans.
>> It happened way too many. And oh, you know what's crazy, too? The Germans.
>> He one of them was in Germany. We have like and most people don't know Texas has a um right along the Bible belt we have a huge German colonizer issue too.
I don't think people really realize how much they came to America and infiltrated and did what they did too.
I think it was the guy before him that was talking about oh you know we dealing with it like you of course you would deal with racism in Germany. You do you know the progenitors of the Aryans the people who believe that blonde hair and blue eyes is is the better race of people?
>> Yeah. The real eugenist.
>> Those are the Germans.
>> Yeah, the tiny mustache ass people.
>> Man, for you to even think as an African that you was going to go there and it was going to be easy breezy, you crazy.
We know not to deal with them.
>> I don't know what made them do that.
>> They just let them know we're not the same people. Cuz even we know we we know the differences between all the Europeans and what they do to black folks. The the Irish started the Triple K. The Italians have never liked us.
They came here and they was less than just like the Irish, but they still linked up with the white people to go against us. Like, we know exactly what to expect from all of them. The Slavic people, we know what to they are disgustingly racist. Those are the Russians, the Polish, the checks, all of those people. And they they be right here in Chicago be acting like they better than you with that. I ain't going to say too much cuz they going to try to take my pay, but you know they accent.
They be looking like polar grizzly bears. And they be talking to us crazy.
>> Oh, you just a block. I'm like, man, you can calm down, but you already know when you deal with one of those, they are entire super racist.
>> Yeah. Yes, they are.
And that's why it's like, geez, we we we used to think that we had a common enemy, but come to find out these people are enemy, too.
>> We do not.
>> You can tell they are. They just like us. They just like them, not us.
They actually think they better like that. I keep on thinking about that girl, that Nigerian we just seen that delineated when that little small Japanese lady with the blonde hair was calling her the n word. No, no, I am not black.
>> I She was calling herself Nigerian. She was separating herself.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They don't think we're a human.
Like they share that with the uh the YT.
What they think we are is a commodity.
They think we're something to possess and trade. They like that's why they so mad about uh cultural gatekeeping and those things because to them we don't have the autonomy to say no. We don't that that's a human thing to be able to say, "Hey, this what you're doing is wrong. I don't like it. You need to stop." They think that that is a offense to them.
like telling them no you you sir you cannot pretend to be me and and and operate in reality as me you have to be yourself oh you are xenophobic [ __ ] you are xenophobic black culture is all our culture no it's our ethnic identity you have no ethnic identity you are xenophobic this is hateful and divisive we are all one black well our eos and and oil No, no, no, no, no, no. Those are people. You are not people. You are a commodity, a location. When we make it to America, we become you, [ __ ] You don't become us, but we become you. And we as people can then become African again. When we feel when I get to Chicago Midway Oair Airport, I become a black American. When I get back, I become African again because I am a person. I can shong and transform. Y'all aren't humans. You are commodities. We can absorb, sell, and pretend to be you.
You don't exist.
>> How dare you?
>> Yeah, they um and it's it's it's almost like what the first dude was saying. Oh yeah, we we all black. I bet you he over there in um in Germany trying to do his best impression of a black American.
That's that's that's see that's why they trick their self into thinking we all the same. That's that's a way for them to claim our accomplishments, our history, our culture, and try to use it for their self for, you know, social status points because let's be honest, you don't get status points for being African or Caribbean. I mean, that [ __ ] not considered cool being a black American is though.
>> That's why he dealing with it the way he is, though. If you think about it, even the uh the small hats, they're East Europeans. The East Europeans think they better than Western Europeans. They think they the top notch of all of them.
So now that kind of makes sense why they do the things they do.
>> Prime Time, you there?
>> Oh yeah, I'm right here. What's up y'all?
>> What's up? What you think about this?
You you think we got the same um you think we got a common enemy with Africans and Caribbeans?
>> Hell no. I mean, the reason why they come to America is for economic opportunity. They don't come here to fight white supremacy. Hell, they don't really care nothing about our history to even know what we're fighting for. So when they come here to this country, I mean, like he said before, they come here to benefit. They come here for their own reasons. We've been here.
We've been dealing with the white team man. So we're here to actually gain power and a foothold in America, which we already gotten somewhat, but we need way more than what we have.
So I think I think if you're a black American and you're for immigration, mass immigration, you're really like at top black American because that only benefit the wealthy. They only benefit the rich that benefit corporations, not the actual people who have to live on the land.
Yeah. Phil, what you think about the prompt question?
My thoughts is, you know, it's when when when you say common enemies, so many of like all this hatred towards black Americans, they they start by Africans and stuff like that and Caribbean folk, they start to seem more like the enemy than our allies. And you know, the reality of it is is that they like being a part of that table of nations. you know, oh, this colon, this is our colonizer and always having that, you know, never trying to develop their own, have their own. Um, one of the persons that talked a minute ago talked about the tribes and how it is that, you know, um, they exist, but one of my home girls was turning me on to the fact that, uh, they also had clans amongst the tribes. So just as we finding out how these tribes don't like each other, it's groups within the tribe itself that don't like the tribe that they're part of and click up with other or clans within the tribe that might click up with others outside of the tribe. So it's real interesting to see how they try to point out this whole we all one, we all black, and it's like nah, we already uh been through that and we know the truth on that. cuz I'm old enough to remember in the early 90s in the mid '9s too when they was making fun of us for using the term Africaname. Oh, how you going to be part of two different continents? You know what I'm saying?
Like I remember that. So, you know, it it's real interesting even nowadays how you see the cosplay Africans will uh be talking about, oh, I'm sixth generation.
I'm I'm fourth generation Africanamean.
And you know it's so nah I I don't really be feeling that talk that some of them be talking sometime.
>> Yeah man. Um we don't we don't got no common enemy bro in my opinion. I mean depends on how you look at it too. I mean the white te I mean I ain't gonna lie. White supremacy is the biggest issue. Don't get me wrong, but I I I honestly think Africans biggest problem is each other. I don't even think it's the white tea, man. They oppressing each other at this point. And I just find it funny how they come up here and they bring up certain people.
Um like Patrica Mumba, um you know, they bring upwami and Kruma Gaddafi.
They bring up all these different people in Africa who was supposedly, you know, trying to unite Africa and, oh, the US had something to do with this and the colonizers did that. We don't give a [ __ ] I don't feel sorry for them.
Where was they when we was going through slavery, red lining, Jim Crow, police brutality, which our people still go through today. You know what I'm saying?
They want nowhere to be found.
So my family, why do these people expect us to sympathize with them? Like do that make sense? They want us to sympathize with them and being colonized, but they never sympathize with us at all.
a large portion of them don't even realize they were colonized which is to my point earlier about um the European in their mind was their saving grace cuz their their colonization is very different than what what slavery was because they did not live amongst uh the the the the the slaver nor did they see the the harm that person did. It was carried out by uh Africans. So what they'll what they'll consistently uh use is classism.
If you listen to them, they they be they'll come to America and say the same thing. They'll say racism doesn't exist.
The issue is classism. Cuz for them, it wasn't se separated by race. It was separated by the class created by the Europeans. But they don't realize the European was the ruling hand. So when I'm saying they don't they don't they don't come to fight uh racism at all or Europeans at all because and in for for for most practical purposes the European is their savior whether they whe that's why they they carry them around and praise them. They do things that are demeaning in our opinion to watch them do like they're demeaning us by doing some of the stuff we see them doing but they don't see it that way. They are performing for a trusted ally.
Like even the Ghana thing when they when they talked about getting the reparations and the the the atrocities, they weren't really trying to represent us. They were renegotiating their trade deals with with Americas with Great Britain. They were trying to ensure that they got favorable terms by pulling that [ __ ] out.
Like it's all economic with them. when they the people that did come from Africa that that they sold, it was an economic transaction. They did not care about the human capital. And the people that are in America that they try and shame into being uh united under the the ideals, they they they they perverted the ideal of pan-Africanism because we have projected it onto them. They they initially came and said, "No, we're not black. We're so and so." Then they seem to benefit. And now that we realize, hey, they they don't operate like us, they say, "All right, well, we we going we stand to lose too much. We got the US aid money that they that's funded through this idea of a diaspora responsibility from black Americans. uh we we we got all of these uh grants and programs and and and the the European a clear example of why they don't um view them as the threat will import Africans for the set aside program so they don't have to deal with the scarred black Americans who have been affected by this racialized uh uh atrocities. The Africans do not view it that way and have a different disposition and demeanor because they did not go through these things.
They only claim that they're have a common enemy in attempts to finesse us.
Yeah.
Yeah. That's real [ __ ] bro. I'm tired of them trying to look at us, come to us and say, "Oh, man. Um, uh, man, we all black. We all melanated, so we all need to stick together and and do this." Man, please. They That [ __ ] is just just just a finesse.
They don't they they don't they don't care about none of that black [ __ ] them man. Look, Patrice Lamumba tried to uh bring the Congo together. He said, "Look, we just going to stop focusing on these different tribes that we got and we going to put our nationality first."
They was not with that. You know what I'm saying? Um how you going to tell some people who whose whole identity is surrounded by their tribe that they got to drop that and now all of a sudden they got to identify with a country that was named by some colonizers? Like come on, bro. Make it make sense.
They don't even believe in in in a Look, Tonobu out of Nigeria, he don't even believe in in a in one Nigeria. All right? So, they can miss us with that.
We all African don't work. We all black don't work. Pan-Africanism don't work.
It just don't work. The crazy thing is it seemed like we the only [ __ ] that get it, family. It seem like black Americans the only ones who get who the real enemy is and how to go about like um challenging them.
You know what I mean? It seems like the Africans and the Caribbeans are the ones that don't get it. Um, if they got it, people will be further ahead. But I was doing some research yesterday.
And family, I look at it like this. The Europeans used them the whole time.
They they'll use you until they don't need you no more. The only reason why they didn't invade Africa earlier and do a scramble for Africa earlier is because they needed them for the slaves. Family.
Think about it. Not soon after slavery ended in America and other places they they focused on the continent right in the mid 1800s. That's when they did the whole scramble for Africa and all these different European nations went and flipped smacked and rubbed Africa down.
You know what I'm saying? You had Belgium, you had the Dutch. They already they had already been there. Um, you had Britain, you had France, you had um, my goodness, Germany, you had all these different European nations, Italy, um, um, you know, colonizing all these different Thank you for the gifts, Lauren. Um, colonizing these different African countries. And um I just find it funny how you know after slavery was over pretty much that's when they did the whole scramble for Africa because I guess they saw the opportunity to keep making money off of Africa. So Africans look at it like uh they look at white te people like they got a fa they they in a failed business deal like a business deal that went left. You know what I'm saying? And they still trying to make it work. Cuz for a while they I I think that they thought that they was equal to those people just because they did business with them. Think about it. If you were African and your people not being enslaves, you the one selling the slaves to these people. You think you equal to these people in your head. But then when they come around and put belt to your ass and colonize your land, did y'all know that they that they estimate that King Li alive almost 10 million Africans in the Congo during his reign.
Did y'all know that?
Almost 10 million people and they still love the white the white T- man. You feel me? Like come on, bro.
Make it make sense.
The only reason why they try to deal with us is cuz they benefit from it, G.
They And honestly, I think that they mad because uh European nations don't treat them like they're a European continent.
That make sense to y'all? They want to be treated like European nations and respected like European nations, but they'll never get that respect because they're African.
They don't view melanated people in that way as equals. It don't matter if you African, black American, Caribbean, or what, they'll never respect you in that way. And the thing about respect with them, you got to make them respect you.
And they don't know how to make them respect them. You feel me? And that's their problem. I don't feel sorry for them, family. All right, listen. It's unfortunate the [ __ ] that happened to them, but I don't feel sorry for them.
Do y'all feel sorry for them? Do y'all feel sorry that the that that they got colonized by all these different countries?
>> Following 1804 jihad by Usman Den Fuo, the Sakoto Caliphate considered power across northern Nigeria, creating one of the largest internal slaveolding states in modern history by the 19th century.
The caliphate operated a highly organized state level military apparatus regular calvary raids and uh launched southward into the non-Muslim populations of the middle belt present day kuna jaz bonu tar taraba region by the 1900s they had held between 1 million to 2.5 million individuals enslaved internally in Nigeria.
>> Yep. Ink that's a note for you too. Yep.
M >> Who is this? Mr. Too Nice.
Mr. Too Nice.
>> Mr. Too Nice. You came up here on accident.
>> All right. He came up here on accident.
And you wanted to say something?
>> I was It's a no for me. I don't I don't feel bad for them. They they brought this on theirelves and they still practices slavery to this day with you which is annoying that they keep trying to deny that they sold slaves when it's something that's culturally it's cultural for them.
>> I mean like Vulture and a majority of the time it involves children which if y'all understand that's what the transatlantic slave trade was too.
majority of the the Africans that they did bring over. It wasn't too many, but a lot of them were children.
I've been reading on it all like all day and I've been seeing it's disgusting and they haven't changed because if you think about it, >> it's easier for them to um it's easier for you to control a child >> than you can a man or a grown man or a grown woman, >> right? Grooming.
>> Yeah. So a child, yeah, you might uh have some children that are resistant, but think about it. You you those adults overpower those children and then after a while those kids begin to feel hopeless, so they just accepted their fate.
>> Yep.
Phil, you wanted to say something?
>> Yeah. My pops handed me down the fundamental. He had taught me a long time ago about uh Harami code and how old it was and etc. But within that is the topic that we've been talking about about slavery in Africa. How far go back Haram be cold go back to like700 BC and it in detail talked about not only enslaving people but how you detailed you would keep up the enslavement of people and that's 1700 BC like that that's you know and they try to like it's not even whitewashed they try to act like it don't exist and when you mention words like this people they'll they dumb and stuff like that, but by the grace of God, we able to, you know, understand that they've had these principles for like damn near forever.
You know, the civilization only go back to 2300, you know, 2800 BCE. So, you know, as long as we've been looking at the world from this civilization, they've had a detailed way of how to enslave people. Very detailed Africans.
So it's it's crazy when they come on here and deny the things like I didn't catch all the stuff earlier but from what I did catch I'm like that's crazy he's trying to act like that doesn't take place.
>> Wow.
>> And he said let me correct you see what you have wrong with these narratives.
That was wild when you think about it like bro you you don't know your history like it to correct us he should have been able to inform me when re start referencing Roman slavery and the stuff in 350 BCE and all this other stuff he should have known every detail about that he should have been able to differentiate between that and the industrial apex era the 1600 CE the 1800 CE the arms for bodies loop uh he he should have been able to detail the difference between the Oyo and the Ashanti and the king with the homies and why their their their tribal leaders different. He should have been able to detail um what's her name? Uh uh uh uh Queen and Zingga. He should he should have like he don't he probably don't even know who that is or what she did or how she gave it up. Sir, if you still here, this woman was going from she she partnered with the the Dutch to fight the Portuguese and went from uh tribe to tribe uh seek kidnapping these these people and kids and then uh the newborn babies would slit their their throats and bathe in their blood to cleanse herself and and then make the men of the village the strongest fight. And the one who to the death to the de, you know, and the one who survived, she would sleep with them as her ritual when she would take a new group over. So you don't know your own history to come talking about correcting us. Inc and red and prime and f sir. We studied your stuff more than you studied it. You only study ours to man. I'mma just be [ __ ] I'm just >> Yeah. I mean you you not wrong though, bro. I mean, the pro the problem is is that they don't like accountability, just like white T people. I mean, they the word accountability is just it's not in a it's not in their dictionary, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Real talk, bro. It's it's not in their vocabulary.
Hold on.
>> Yeah. You know, I start to believe that for real. Oh, go ahead.
>> Oh, no. Go ahead, brother. They but they they just he he don't he don't want to hold his own people accountable. So they they rather go around playing victims.
That's the same thing that white supremacists do whenever we say they racist. They know you're racist. You're bringing up racism, dude. Like they got the worst comebacks ever.
>> Yeah.
>> They just they dodge accountability just like the white te bro. They're no different, bro. They just failed colonizers family. Another thing I was wondering, what were y'all doing from the 1500s to the mid 1800s while everybody else was building up their countries and industrializing?
What the [ __ ] was y'all doing?
Nothing.
>> They operated like uh uh they they were selling their arm to feed themselves.
And when they ran out of the arm, they sold their leg to feed themselves. And when they no longer had limbs, they got they got kidnapped or or colonized >> prime time. You want to say something?
Go ahead, brother.
>> Oh, no. I was just backing what she was saying.
A lot of them do play victim. Like y'all blame everybody for y'all problems but y'all own people.
Like at the end of the day, y'all benefited off the slave trade. So why not just admit we benefited off of it?
You know, I heard Nigerian girls tonight say, "Yeah, we sold you guys."
Okay, you sold us. You really didn't, but let's go with what she said. So why you ask for reparation?
where they ask them for compensation for the transland slave trade if you sold a bunch of people.
>> That's their latest scam.
>> And they just like the white T y'all keep saying it. Y'all so right because when when uh the the the North and the South got into it, they wanted reparations too for any uh free uh enslaved labor. And if you look at the the the the the communication between um like Gizo and uh and and the and the people in and the British at the time or you you look at the different versions of people who uh they have a consistent theme. They wanted to be compensated before they would stop the slave trade.
They consistently said the same thing.
the exact same thing the Europeans said or in America or the the the they were saying like, "Hey, if y'all do this, we're going to go broke, so we can't do it or you going to have to pay us." They had to pay them to stop them from doing this stuff to fight them.
>> And ain't that crazy? That's the same thing they had to do for the for the YT people globally.
They got paid, too.
>> Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.
And then to turn around and claim that our trauma history and and the reason some of the reasons that we're looked at away is is is universal to be applied to the people who descended from the people who might have uh sold uh anyone that we are related to from Africa into uh the skin trade. It's disgusting when you really like when you break that down.
That's so disgusting.
>> Yeah, >> that's that's Oh my god, >> it is. It is honestly and I'm tired of them trying to deny it. And you know what's so funny? This the funny part is that gee they double back on y'all ass and took y'all [ __ ] Hey, imagine thinking you imagine thinking you got a plug but then you go to the plug one day and he rob you. Oh, you ain't got no plug no more. And then you still trying to shop with him with your goofy ass.
So look family, y'all know they got these little basically sundown towns out there in Africa or whatever. So uh go ahead. You want to say something real quick?
>> No, I was laughing about the plug thing, but to your son like when you brought the uh white man up, I just was listening to the dude Uncle Moose, the the one who hate FBA. They was on that panel saying that the white man was African.
>> Oh my god.
So now white te men white men are African.
So I I guess I guess that's why they want to unite with him.
>> Yeah. They they had I think a South Africaner on the panel and they were saying, "Hey, he's from Africa. He's just as African as us. Africa is his land, too."
>> Oh, and see.
Wow. That's exactly the [ __ ] we be talking about. But look, I'm going to go ahead and play this video because speaking of South Africaners, um the Africconers, they um [ __ ] this place is that the South Africans can't even go down there. So, look, I'm going to play this video. We going to react to it, family. Check it out.
>> The question, oh, why can't a black person come here is not the right question. It's more like a marriage between two people. It's exclusive affairs. Doesn't mean you're >> low the value low in this family.
>> You take your wife, she's important to you.
>> It's slightly low, but we can hear it if uh I don't I can kind of hear >> I'mma turn it up real quick. I'mma turn it up real quick.
But yeah, they um they got they got certain places that they can't go on their own land.
>> As a matter of fact, I'mma show y'all the thing. Hold on real quick. Hold on.
Hold on real quick. Let me make sure that bloop.
One second. Imagine that. Somebody take your land and then tell you that where you can't go.
>> That [ __ ] is crazy.
>> Now, where the hell? Here it go. It's this speaker.
One second, y'all. I'm connected real quick. All right. Now, >> yo, check it out. Now look, the um this post goes on. It says, "No white tea man on planet Earth going to tell me where I ain't allowed in Africa." Now that's the attitude you're supposed to have.
Yeah. This is about Orania. Um uh and you remember Steey, I told him that his place is like that in Africa and he tried to make it sound like it wasn't true. All they do is lie.
>> Yeah, he denied it.
>> He denied it. But we all know that this is true. I'mma play the video, family, and I'mma pause it and we can react to it while we going. But I guess this African dude was talking to one of one of the white TE's out there about it.
>> The question, oh, why can't a black person come here? Is not the right question. It's more a question. The question, oh, why can't a black person come here? Is not the right question.
It's more a question like a marriage between two people is exclusive affair.
Doesn't mean you're against anyone else.
You just you take your wife. She's important to you. Yeah. Or you know, and in your wedding, in your marriage, you're exclusive. Doesn't mean it's not built on hate. It's built on on love for our culture. We want to preserve our culture. We want to to um to preserve our traditions, our faith, our language.
These are the things that we want to preserve.
>> But someone might ask, if you want to preserve your culture, you're preserving your culture on a land that belongs to South Africans.
>> The land here we bought, we paid for it.
>> From who?
Well, at that stage we bought it from the previous owner which was the government. Correct.
>> But I I don't think an African can leave Africa, go to Europe and say that we just bought this land and no one is allowed to come in.
>> Our name is African. Our land which is Africans, >> right? So we we feel part of this continent and maybe people don't agree but I don't have another home. I'm not I'm not a I'm obviously I know that I have European roots. Yeah.
>> 400 years ago.
>> For 400 years, my people have been here.
>> I love Africa. I don't want to live any place else. I feel a part of this continent. My language grew uh obviously from Dutch, but it grew on this continent.
>> Family, first things first, how do y'all feel about that? He's saying that most likely he's Dutch, right? He's saying that his people um and these Africconers have been there for over 400 years. And he's saying that them telling that the black South Africans that they can't come there or any Africans telling them that they can't come there is not it's not racist. It's just them preserving their culture. Do y'all think that that's a slick way to be racist and discriminate against people? Or do y'all think that what he's saying has some merit? I'll start with Ink. What you think about it?
>> Doesn't have any merit. It's almost the same as the um Australians.
If if you think of Australia now, it's the same way that that most people think of America. They think that Australia is a European nation just like they think American is a European European nation because all of them come and they take over. They don't have no right to those lands that they stole. He know he don't.
That's why he tried to say, "Oh, you know, we bought it from the government."
No, you stole it. You bought it during a time when your people took over the government. So that cancels out everything y'all did.
Y'all colonized those people. You enslaved those people and then you took their land forcibly. And now you're saying it it was justified because the government sold it to you. That's not true >> at all.
>> And those people are not African and they know they aren't. That's why they have those names or they try to change it. Think about it though. Like it made me when he was talking I thought about how these European colonizers that live here call themselves white Americans and that they force us to call ourselves African-Americans because they want to uh strip us of our American identity so that they can look like they're the only true Americans cuz nobody questions YT people. But if you think about it, none of them are they're they're they don't have a land period. Even Europe, they didn't build Europe. They're not actually Europeans.
But you still to this day people believe that Europe is their their their countries and their lands.
These people are are thieves, vagabons, cave dwellers. They've been stealing since they got out them caves.
Yep. And my thing is at least he admitted that he's European. And the African dude, I could tell he kind of tiptoeing around what he was saying. He wasn't trying to be as direct as he's supposed to be. Um, I don't know if he was just trying to be cordial or whatever, but man, look, you got to get to the point with these people. Um, bottom line is at least that he did admit that he was European. And actually, the African dude made a good point. If y'all want to build a town like that, why don't y'all do it over in Europe or wherever y'all fled from? Go do that [ __ ] where you come from. Why?
Why you going to come to somebody else land, take their [ __ ] enslave people for almost 200 years down there in the Cape Colonies in South Africa, take their [ __ ] and then now all of a sudden then you telling them that they where they can't go. If a boy, if melanated people did that [ __ ] over in Europe, they would be tripping. Y'all heard about what's going on with Naami Naomi Osaka, right, where she had a a blacks only um dinner. I hope it was all I hope it was no Africans invited cuz if it was, I don't support it. But I'm all for a black only.
>> She's Haitian though. So I I would assume there were Africans that was there. She's not >> She's half Haitian.
>> Yes. Her father is Haitian. Her quote unquote black is Haitian. So >> Oh, okay. Well, I don't even care then.
I don't even care about what's going on between them. But uh I always thought she was half FBA, but okay. But my point is um they tripping on imagine if a black American had did that. They they would be tripping if we do our own black only dent. Matter of fact, a better example, Kendrick Lamar. He had melonated people all for his uh Super Bowl performance and people was tripping. You know what I'm saying? So what what makes them think that it's okay to do this in somebody else land that they took if we can't even do the smallest [ __ ] or the biggest [ __ ] and it's a problem? You know what I'm saying? The [ __ ] just don't make no sense and dude sitting up there justifying all of it. Mega, what you think about what dude said so far? You think it's [ __ ] >> Yeah. No, yeah, I think it's [ __ ] I agree with what Ink said. Uh, a lot of them came through uh the Dutch East India Company, VOCC, and uh they they they essentially, like she said, they took it through they they said they they they originally, like she said, they took over the government. They were saying that it was a a right of war that they won through spoils of war and they uh they took the land from the indigenous Koisan and Bantto speaking nations through corporate fraud and military displacement. So, they didn't pay a fair price for that. So that that was a lie. A flatout lie right there. So yeah.
>> Yep. Prime time, you there, >> broki?
>> Yeah, I'm right here.
>> What What you think about this [ __ ] so far?
>> I mean, yeah, they was a thieves.
Like y'all not from that region of Africa. Like the government, like you said, they took over the government. So the government wasn't originally of the people. So the people didn't give you that land. Y'all didn't buy that land.
Y'all really took that land through, you know, force. So no, that wouldn't be that land at all.
>> Yeah. I think, >> you know, you know, Europeans a lot typically about history. Everywhere they go, they're like the roaches of humanity.
They make every place they go their home.
>> Yeah.
>> Even when you don't want them there.
I just think it's crazy too how the South Africans, they got all that smoke for all these Africans, but they don't got no smoke for these people in this town.
Came, took y'all [ __ ] colonized you, enslaved your people, all type of [ __ ] And y'all worried about the foreigners out there. That's crazy.
with all the monument that I see in here. Would you agree with me if I say that this man performed a lot of atrocities in the past?
>> Well, I think obviously these are controversial figures and I think the the fact that we put them here um in Irania with our own funding. People some people are uncomfortable in the rest of South Africa to to to care for them to to to see them in public because this is on private land, private funds. Um and it's and it's our history. But I know I know it's your history but at the end of the day a lot of people were harmed in the process. You don't think if you embracing this you're definitely embracing appetite. Um is it okay to celebrate Shaka Zulu Zulu leader? You know who that is?
>> I know who Shakazulu is. He killed a lot of people. Is it fine to celebrate him?
>> That's a question for South Africans.
>> That is a this is a question for Iranians.
>> We love Tik Tok. What y What y'all think about that part right there? And he tried to he tried to liken they um racist colonizers to the Zulu people.
>> Yeah. That's not even a fair that's not even a fair compar. He can't even compare those two.
>> It's not >> because one is fighting for his homeland and another and the colonizer was fighting to take over South Africa.
That's like it's not even comparing apples to oranges.
>> Yeah. That that was uncarison.
>> Yeah. That's a really disingenuous statement.
>> He did. He took that a true African.
Now, no one can deny that Shakazulu was a true indigenous African and he took that and tried to use it against another African. That's crazy.
Them people disgust them. But you know what? I can't feel bad for South Africans cuz a lot of them claim that those people are African.
They will call Africana or an African o and then side with them over black American. I don't feel bad.
I've seen it happen.
>> Yep. That's ridiculous how he just tried to do that. And so this the Wow thing.
So not only do they got their own little uh paleface little community, they tell them that they can't come in.
And then not only that, they got statues of the colonizers there. We all know that those are reminders to let the South Africans know like, "Hey [ __ ] this our [ __ ] and it ain't [ __ ] you can do about it and you're not welcome here." It's like in America, y'all know how we be getting them statues took down and them racist and they be fighting against it. That's basically the same [ __ ] that they doing over there. And he steady trying to justify everything. Oh, we used our own money. We we don't care.
We know what it represents. And but this is what the South Africans let go on.
He was more like the architect for appetite.
Do you agree with that?
>> I I agree with the fact that he implemented a lot of policies in the apart era.
>> You don't think it's because of this that's people have problems with because so many South Africans are not happy with this history even though it's part of them. But I I I believe like you just said let the past be passed. I mean we can never forget our history but I mean I I feel like this been here it's more like a what do you call it like a sword in the eyes of the people of South Africa?
>> I don't think so.
>> Do you believe that whatever you guys are practicing here it's racism?
>> I do not believe that we are practicing racism. To tell you the truth I've said it many times that if the question is are there racist in Iran? I can assure you there are there are racists in every town in South Africa and every country in the world you will find racist. That is a fact. The Iranian model is a model of cultural preservation and that is not racist. So you might disagree with me but my personal belief, my honest belief is that the Iranian model is not racist at all. It is how however a model to preserve something that we all dear and to create a future where we can live our values, our religion, our language and share our culture. If you check when South Africa gain independence, if you check the code of arm of South Africa, he said there is unity. Unity in diversity, Orania is within South Africa. But at the end of the day, I believe what you are practicing in here is not unity in diversity.
>> I beg to differ.
>> Can you explain that?
>> How can there be any diversity in South Africa if cultures are not allowed to be themselves? How can how can there be any diversity at all? If everyone is the same, there's no diversity. If you have a cultural community and you have the Ka people or the Bulong people and they also embrace their identity and from a standpoint of knowing who you are, of being proud of your culture, of embracing who you are, you get to a point of self-confidence where you then can put out your hand and say without anyone forcing us, I can build a diplomatic relationship with this and this and we can do it on our own terms, community to community. That's unity and diversity. To just write it on a coat of arms doesn't mean anything. To live it by creating your own identity. Identity is needed for diversity. Without identity, there is no diversity. Listen, what you're not going to get in Irania is people falling on their knees continuously saying sorry for their history. A lot of people apologized on our behalf for everything. And it's a there's a lot of internal Africana friction about that. But in Irania, you will find solutions. Maybe it's not the nice cherry on top stuff. people feel warm in their hearts. Orana are so nice to us. But you will find long-term solutions in terms of labor policies, in terms of community to community relationships and in terms of the way we think. The question >> family, I'm going to keep it real. This is racism. Um that's basically a sundown town. and he he trying to act like them having their own um he trying to justify them being racist, having racist statues and keeping a South African and any other person out of there. There is how can you have diversity when it's when it's uh Africconers only basically and other pale-faced people that's allowed.
That's not diversity. Diversity means that it's it's multicultural. It's a lot of different people there. You can still be who you are and live amongst other people.
You understand what I'm saying? That's that's unity, diversity, sharing the land that you bought with other people, allowing people to come around, be themselves, and share each other's culture. Learn learn from each other cuz y'all are living around each other. You all in these people country. You know what's crazy? If the g in America, they got a problem with the Muslims building their own [ __ ] here. They got a problem with certain people building their own [ __ ] here. Family. So, I don't know what makes them think that they so special.
Everything dude said is just it's basically all white supremacist paleface talking points. Family, do y'all think that I think this is just an extension uh and the lingering effects of apartheid still going on.
I'm getting a part vibes from this. Ink, what you think about this [ __ ] This [ __ ] racist as hell.
>> Of course it is. He know it is. He's he's justifying his own ways, which is crazy. Talking about everybody needs their own identity. You had one. You're Dutch. You didn't need to go to nobody else country. Take over their country and create a new identity within their identity and make yours the uh the superior identity, which is crazy to me.
That's what the YT people did when they came over here. They had their own identities, but they wanted ours. And they wanted to make themselves better.
And that's that's become a trend for them. And if y'all don't remember, like two or three, no, two years ago when they started moving the Ukrainians out of Ukraine, they were going into melanated countries and even like some of them got sent to Fiji and they were creating all white tea areas and places where the Fijians couldn't go, which is wild to me because you in their country and they helping you. This seems to be a European European trait. They want to make themselves the uh the top dog and they feel like you can't check them and they in your country.
It's weird.
>> Yeah, it's it's crazy as hell. It's crazy as hell. Dude is literally justifying the racism. Uh Mega, what you think about this [ __ ] He said that it's not racist. You think this racist?
>> Yeah, absolutely. I I think it's a a a a carryover from apartheid. I mean, what was it? Uh 70% of the population was restricted to only 13% of the land. They had a white minority nationalist party and they they had a systemic uh racial prejudice system with a part time. They they essentially just tried to recreate it and then uh label it as preservation of their own community to y'all y'all hit all the points on the head. You can't invade somebody else land. You know, at one point they were stripping the the South Africans of citizenship and forcing them into the uh what they call the Banttoan homelands.
>> Mhm.
>> Like how you going to strip a South African of South African citizenship as a immigrant? These people are are they they have some nerve and audacity. They they have the likes of which I we really don't understand some of the stuff they do.
I I don't understand. Like I I I don't think we we wicked enough to fully grasp.
>> Mhm. And the the thing is people only do what you what you gonna let them.
>> You know what I'm saying? In his life.
If you let somebody disrespect you and walk all over you, that's what the hell gonna happen. These Africans allowed these people in and then next thing you know they took more land and more land and more land and then next thing you know they taking resources taking more land and now they subjugating you taking all your wealth, taking all your [ __ ] I'm going to be honest if they was smart they would be focused on these [ __ ] And I'm not going to lie, if I was South African that would be my main thing, getting them the [ __ ] out my country. I'm not going to lie to you, G.
Even if they not leaving, I'mma let it be known. Um, we not doing no white no pale face only towns down here. It's going to be South Africans down here. If you got a problem with it, your ass could leave. [ __ ] you talking about?
That's exactly how we'll do it. And I would redistribute the wealth. I would take all their land and give it back to the to the rightful owners. Y'all don't own [ __ ] now. If you don't like it, you can leave. Go call Donald Trump. Maybe he'll help you. That's what I would do.
I'm not lying to you, family. That's how I'm coming.
>> At one point, they kind of was standing on it like that. Uh what what's the guy that they just locked up in jail?
>> Who? Uh Julius Mima.
>> Mima. Yeah, they kind of was standing on that stuff. That's how they they they even tried to get Donald Trump involved.
I watched the documentary showing the area that they had isolated them to and that they was talking about how they were taking their farmlands back from them. They kind of was standing on that.
Like out of all the people over there, I think I think that South Africans kind of get misunderstood to to some extent because for all practical purpose, this is just my opinion, but I think that in comparative analysis, we have the most a similar understanding to what they experienced and how they view uh whiteness in comparison to everybody else that was colonized.
living up under them and being up under them should have given them the same um understanding as us, but they was recently released. So, we've had more time to cultivate a understanding that they haven't reached yet. But when you can when you do a comparative analysis to them and the rest of Africa, if like that prompt you had earlier, I believe a South African would be quicker to say that we have the same shared enemy and actually mean it than any other group of people.
>> Okay.
>> What do you think about that? Okay. It I I would say it depends on the South African we talking to cuz a whole lot of them G we be talking to them and I be saying it all the time like G well what about the YT people y'all I know y'all you know smacking the other Africans up which is crazy. I disagree with that putting their hands on people but um especially the other Africans there but when I ask them about the white TE's bro all them pretty much say they African bro and they belong there and they don't got a problem with them being there bro it's crazy. Ink, am I lying?
>> No, I've heard them say it. I I literally just heard them say on another panel.
>> Yeah, bro.
>> You're right.
>> They say that [ __ ] all the time. They don't got no problem with them people being there. They feel like they're African.
>> Yeah. I'm not saying that they are us uh ideologically. I'm saying that if you were to do a comparative analysis between the majority of Africa and them, I think they would be closer on the spectrum to us than anybody else in the in that continent.
>> Okay. I feel you on that. But and like I said, it also boils down to who you talking to because half of them going to say that they okay with it and the other half not. That's what I that's what I realiz and speaking with them. Seem like most of them are actually most of them okay with them being there, bro. They they feel like their biggest issue is the immigrants, bro. Being there illegally, not the white T's. The same white TE's who tell them that they can't go to Irania. Make it make sense. But I hear what you're saying, though. I mean, you you would think that they would feel the way we feel, but look, that's that's their land. That's their problem. These day Africaners, >> you know, that's on them. Do do you think that because again that hey it could be just the way I'm I'm understanding this but the way that we're minding our business at home in America and people come arguing our DNA and arguing our civil rights and telling us our history and arguing about our culture and arguing this and arguing that and arguing this essentially invading our space and and and and just being disrespectful and abrasive. Do you think that the South Africans feel that even while they're still fighting this white man or while they trying to figure out whatever they got going on with them, then that the people coming are additional problems and they are are being used as buffers the same way some immigrants might be used as buffers against us?
>> Yeah. Yeah. And and in our talking to them, um that's how a lot of them feel cuz listen, I can understand that the white te's are a problem, but um and I can also understand how damn near with over 20 million immigrants is also an issue as well. I can definitely see that. Um, so yeah, I can see it as as added on as a added on issue to what they already got going on. But my thing is, [ __ ] I mean, all of them immigrants.
Honestly, if you if you really want to look at it the way you supposed to, the white T is not supposed to be there.
But I do understand what you're saying.
My thing is they could fight them all at the same time. Well, fight the white supremacy and fight against the immigration at the same time.
>> Yeah, I >> go get your land back. But that's something that they government got to do, too, cuz they government could literally, you know what I'm saying, take care of that with just some pieces of paper.
>> You I I agree 100% with you. And the other thing I think that that ramps it up is I honestly believe if the if the African if we didn't interact with the Africans and they were still doing all this negative [ __ ] to us, we would not be fighting them. I sad to say I wish it was not like the way we standing on business delineating ensuring that we get political appointments and and we make sure that we have an agenda first.
We are are harmfully too loving and and and and like turn other cheek at times because the Africans could be doing the exact same thing they doing now, infiltrating every level and we would not be uh as adamantly going after them if they shut up. But not only did they do those things, they also harassed us while doing them and tried to ridicule us and make themsel and claim that they were better than us. I believe that they probably did that same thing to them over there.
>> They do. They do. The the immigrants do the same thing to the South Africans.
And and that is what got them smacking them up on the streets and doing all and and and like I I to keep it a to keep it a bean when I leave from listening to some of them lives and the the disrespectful stuff. I I be I don't want it to just be words. I ain't going to hold you. Like I like it's a lot of days I don't want it to just be words. I'm I'mma mute up on that one though.
I feel you. Um I feel you on that, bro.
Um, who man?
Prime time. You know, these people racist as hell, man. These people >> Yeah. You see dude making excuses for his racism and whatnot.
>> Who they got?
>> Yeah. He just keep making excuses for it.
>> He basically saying that they downtown is diverse.
>> Yeah. I mean that I mean that's one of their art forms is to deflect. Like that is what they do. He's a white supremist.
They're going to deflect naturally. Uh they can never take accountability and responsibility for what they do. They always want to blame everybody else for their problems.
Uh so I mean he ain't doing nothing no more different than any white supremist would do. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, y'all colonized that country. Y'all took over that area. If y'all were true people, why don't y'all just go back home?
Realize what y'all did wrong and leave.
That's like saying, "Oh, I like my neighbor's house, so I'm going to move up in there and stay permanently." Like, come on, man. You can't just do that.
So, he's just wrong.
Yeah, he he he dead wrong. We love Tik Tok shop. And another thing, family, here's the kicker. When they be catching them black South Africans in their towns, bro, they be putting their hands on them people, bro. They be clapping their little ears together. So that's how you know it's some [ __ ] too.
Because it's also how you deal with people when they actually come through as well. They hit [ __ ] with the you lost, boy.
You feel me?
>> Yeah. No. Ain't no way. If if you >> What you doing around these hair parts, boy? That's what they hitting them with.
So, you know, it's some [ __ ] They not saying, "Hey, how you doing?" They hitting them with it, "You lost, boy."
Come on, y'all. Some [ __ ] >> Red. If you dropped some verified uh plantation owners and clan members directly in the middle of the South and the West Side, how long do you think that they last?
>> Well, they ass not going to last long, gang. They going to get ran up out that [ __ ] >> If they allowed to leave. But yeah.
Yeah, that's if they allowed to leave.
And that's the thing about our people.
As long as they ain't being violent or nothing, they just got to leave. We not going to aggress them and start doing no weird [ __ ] And hopefully hopefully it wouldn't get physical. But let's say they not armed and nobody's armed. We'll just run them up out of there. Hey dude, y'all got to get up out of here because y'all are walking around wearing racist attire. You feel me? It it' be one thing if you wearing normal clothes. We don't give a [ __ ] But you walking around actively wearing uh um clothing that's racist and provocative. I mean it's provoking 2026 though you might really get on their ass. They might not make it out that [ __ ] >> I don't think they going to make >> I mean depending on where they at >> if they dealt with the aparttheid. So these are the same people who just got finished doing all of this [ __ ] to them. So if we caught a OP directly in the neighborhood that just got finished doing it to us, I don't think we going to let their ass go. I would give.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And but see but see I hear what you're saying.
But I feel like that's different than what they got going on. Like imagine if we catch Okay, it's it's different when you walk out your door and let's just say you see somebody dressed in a clan robe just walking up the street. La. Hey boy, get your goofy ass out of here.
Think about it. It's kids around.
There's women. It's children. We got to protect our people. To me, that is a security threat. I don't know what you got on you, who you came here to hurt, what you came here to do. So that's why we got to run you about the neighborhood because we think you a threat and you trying to hurt somebody. You know what I'm saying? I mean, a person with regular clothes on could hurt somebody.
But if you a white te a pale-faced person, and you walking through the neighborhood, a black neighborhood with clean robes on and all this [ __ ] yeah, we got to run you up out of there because you could possibly harm somebody, and we're not gonna let you harm us. That's us being on the defensive, right? That's not just us aggressing people. Now, like I said, if it was just a white te man, hey, whoopy dude, he just walking through G. Nobody going to pay him attention. The crazy thing is that a white p a white a paleface person safer than us in the hood. You know what I'm saying?
Especially if they ain't on no weird [ __ ] But um the crazy thing is let's say one of us let's say let's say I I'm I I stop and get some gas in the Sundown town family and then okay everything's okay but let's say I go to a restaurant right after that cuz I want a cheeseburger. What y'all think going to happen when I get to that restaurant?
>> They going to spit in it.
>> I'm They probably not even going to make me a burger as hell.
>> Uh yeah.
>> Now think about it. I'm there. I'm not.
>> They might They might They might uh you know, pee you. You know what I'm saying?
I don't want to say the word, but >> they might pew pew me.
>> No, no, no, no. The other one. You know how you put uh >> what? The P U N C H.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, they might physically assault me.
>> Yeah.
>> Why?
>> I say I want to say poison. They're going to poison you.
>> Okay. So, you saying that they would do harm to me just because I'm a black man in their town?
>> Hell yeah.
>> Right. That's different than us seeing a white supremacist dressed like a white supremacist in our neighborhood, right?
>> Absolutely. I think I think the difference >> Yeah. I mean, because one person didn't do anything, the other person kind of antagonizing people.
>> Mhm.
>> But but let's say let's say the white let's say let's say the white person wasn't dressed in a clan robe. Who's safer? a white person in a black neighborhood who's dressed normally or or um cuz we don't got no damn sundown towns, right? Or or a black person, let's just say me in a sundown town.
Who's safer?
>> There's always going to be a YT person in our neighborhood.
>> You know, we're not actually going to hurt anybody if we don't have to.
>> Is that >> is that a plus?
>> What you mean?
Like >> is what a what?
>> Is is that a a a plus? Like Well, I ain't g Never mind. No problem.
>> Is Well, I No, that's what my point is is that we don't go around doing the [ __ ] that they do. That's basically all I'm saying. I was just I was just um adding on to your point. Um the difference between us, you know what I'm saying? We don't got sundowns. They do.
And they're actually safer in our neighborhoods than we are in theirs.
>> Right. Right. No, I get it. I'm with you on that. And to to further on your point that that you going down is I think that any animosity or anger that we have is justified. I'm going keep it real like that. That's like when you like when like when like George Floyd happened or when uh Ma Ire when when these people get smoked and all this stuff knowing the history because it don't exist in the vacuum.
We got all of that plus the current whatever issue was happening when we interacting with people.
>> That's why we need to be like Miles Davis. I don't know if y'all seen his interviews. That man did not apologize to how he how he felt about white te people.
He said if he only had an hour left to live, he would he would use that hour slowly slowly putting his fingers around a white man's neck.
When I see that interview, I screamed. I was like, "Damn, that's crazy."
>> When was that interview? Was the interview black and >> white? It's like it's a bunch of interviews, man. They was like, "Are you um anti-whit?" He was like, "Not all the time." And he they just looked at him.
They thought he was playing. He was not playing at all.
>> I I mean, he grew up in a different time as well. So, like, I don't I don't blame him for feeling that way.
>> Dude, I agree with everything he's saying, though. And [ __ ] if I knew for a fact I only had I'm going for a lot of body. I'm I'm I'm the end of the end of sinners.
>> I ain't going to lie.
>> You got to think about it though to to just want to do it to one person. Like that's a lot of rage that's built up that people don't really realize. Like we they think we let a lot of stuff slide. And again, they do come from a different time. And then he said at the end he was like, "Then I'll be mad at myself cuz I need more time to do it to somebody else." And I was like, damn.
>> Oh my god. No. White Tox was mad.
>> I ain't going to hold you.
>> I'm going to show y'all the interview cuz this man was crazy. But he was funny, too.
>> Yep.
>> I I don't blame him. I mean, you feel me?
>> Yeah.
>> I don't blame him for feeling that way.
I mean, they done did a lot of [ __ ] up [ __ ] to our people.
In the end, they'll gaslight us and pretend like why can't we use the nword?
I just don't get it. Like, bro, bro, >> I love black people. My wife is black.
>> Yeah.
>> You look at him like, "Oh, you [ __ ] with me, huh?"
>> Yeah. You >> [ __ ] with me hard.
>> Okay.
>> Are you old submissive ass Nigerian?
>> Are you anti-white?
Not all of that guy.
>> This kid was a mom.
>> Hold on. Hold on. Start it over, sir.
Start it over. Start it over.
>> That man.
>> Are you anti-white?
>> Not all the time.
>> Excuse mom.
>> A musician if nobody ever heard you.
Why?
>> Because I love music.
>> You were saying if you had an hour to live, you'd spend it strangling one white person slowly. Is that a correct quote?
>> Yeah. But I found out I'd need more time.
I think you said you were pimping for a while.
>> Oh my god. Hey man, this man was funny as hell, too.
Hey, they was mad as hell with Hell no.
He said he need more time.
>> Yeah, he got more interviews, too. But they don't realize he was serious as hell.
>> That's crazy as hell.
I I think I think uh sinners the end of sinners was an aspirational movie cuz I don't know too many people of the lineage that wouldn't like to end to go out in that glaze of glory with a with a fully against 30 clan members coming for you like that. That would be a picture perfect death for me. I ain't going to lie with you.
Facts. I ain't going to lie. I would or like uh the Jango that end it perfectly. You burn down the plantation.
>> Mhm.
And and and you got your woman back.
>> Yeah.
And we got to throw in some of the Tik Tok tethers on there, too. They they need to be they need to be in the car with these mother, man.
>> Crazy.
So, check it out.
Um, y'all got any last words on that?
>> M Dave is crazy as hell.
>> He ain't play with them. He didn't let them. He was one of the people that stood firm on them. Uh, YT people were not colonizing and naming our genres of music. Cuz when they was like, "Oh, how do you feel about jazz?" He was like, "Man, what the what the [ __ ] is jazz?"
He was like, "Y'all named it that. We didn't call it that."
>> What was the name he used? Bbop or something? No, they just they never named it. He said it. He was like, "We didn't we don't really name what we do.
We just do it." And he was like, he's like, "Whit people colonize things because they can't do it." So, they feel superior in naming something like they discovered it. He's like, "And then after y'all do that, it pretty much loses we lose interest in it." And that is true.
>> Yeah.
>> Can you imagine what 10 years of unbothered, uncopied creativity would look like from us?
Man, these people won't even let us go 10 hours, bro.
They just won't leave us the [ __ ] alone.
I got a house full of art I'm hoarding at this point.
Inventions cr all type of [ __ ] bro. I'm just hoarding this [ __ ] cuz I know I ain't going to do [ __ ] or get stolen or disc. Like, I be in here like a mad scientist. just whatever you could think of. Art, uh, design and robotics, all type of stuff.
I'm training AI models, whatever. But I don't want to release it cuz this [ __ ] going to get stolen.
>> Just keep it, man.
>> Yeah, just keep it.
>> Yeah.
>> And have y'all heard about what Kevin Hart uh said on the Breakfast Club?
>> How about Yes. seen that roast he had.
>> Yeah, it was it was it was pretty bad.
Um >> yeah, it was racist as hell. I ain't going to lie with you.
>> And then they sitting there laughing at Kikin and Kai like that [ __ ] is okay.
So look, I'm I'mma play this little clip right quick. It's like 20 seconds. I think she asked him about George Floyd or some [ __ ] like that in this interview, something.
But um that a lot of people mad about that.
She she I guess she interviewed George Floyd's brother and that was his response.
That was his response.
>> What was the joke? What was the joke that I didn't see the the roast? What was the joke that uh >> they they was talking about George Floyd like a dog during that roast.
>> Yeah. It it was really the white tea guys talking about George Floyd >> when they were saying he deserved it or something >> you know saying things like I can't breathe like >> I'm I'm play distasteful.
>> Yeah. I'mma play the clip in a second.
>> They was mocking slavery too which is which I say majority of them are small hats. Mind you if the shoe was on the other foot and we started to mock mock the H that they went through we we wouldn't hear the end of it. They they would cancel people so quickly, freeze bank accounts, but for some reason it's okay for them to joke about slavery.
And then Kevin Hart just sitting there laughing like the [ __ ] funny.
Everything is funny to him. I never seen a comedian laugh so [ __ ] much.
That's crazy.
>> The jokes wasn't funny at all.
>> The [ __ ] was just offensive.
And you know it was bad when Dr. Umar got to come out and say something. And I don't even like his ass, but he had to come out and say something. [ __ ] ridiculous. But basically, I guess she um interviewed George Floyd's brother and he could have just said, "Hey, he could have just left it at no, I didn't see it." And let her say what she had to say. But he went in, he kept going in.
I'm not I'm not watching it. I'm not going to go back and watch it. Like, bro, okay, we get it. But like he don't what he don't understand is that when the white supremacist see that bro they jump all over that. You know what I'm saying?
They still troll this man to this day on Twitter. I'm talking about every day all day. It's some damn George Floyd jokes going on. And we got to come with all our [ __ ] Charlie Kirk jokes every day and Chud the Builder jokes.
You know what I'm saying? Because of people like him. They think that [ __ ] funny.
They think that [ __ ] funny. I'mma show y'all one second. Hold on. Let me see.
Um, hold on.
I I think some people bring to mind like, "What is fame and and power and wealth worth to you?" Like, what really?
Cuz like I told you, I walked away from a lot of money cuz the coach called one of the players a [ __ ] I I just couldn't wouldn't stand for it. But you got people like Chris Rock who will be on on on stage laughing with him while they calling him a [ __ ] and telling him to say it. Yeah, I say it again with the er, you know, like, but I will say this at least at You know what's crazy? He the only one that said a damn Charlie Kirk joke. It was a damn pale face. None none of these melonated people made any Charlie Kirk jokes.
Y'all going to let them make George Floyd jokes, but y'all gonna make not gonna make no Charlie Kirk jokes. So at least we got some Charlie Kirk um jokes in there. You know what I'm saying? But I'm looking I'm looking for the George Floyd jokes. Um, which was pretty bad. I think this was it right here. So, I'mma play this real quick, y'all, so y'all can check it out. Look.
You know, Kevin, they told me not to mention your kids on this roast, but I must say, you did good. They've gotten so big they now buckle Kevin up in the car seat.
It's true. He lost his gig hosting the Academy Awards because of some homophobic tweets. But you'd be homophobic, too, if you were eye level with everyone's [ __ ] He got into a fist fight on a private plane. Proof that no matter how much money black people have, they're still just going to act like ninjas.
He's fighting.
Like Bill Cosby, Hart is a black comedian from Philadelphia. And like Bill Cosby, women don't know when Kevin is inside of them.
You've done good, though, Kevin. The black community is so proud of you.
Right now, George Floyd is looking up us at us all, laughing so hard that he can't breathe.
God bless you, Kevin. God bless this room and God bless the United States of America.
>> Disgusting.
>> Yeah, that was real. Like that [ __ ] was like uh like like bro like the it's no like the the way he the the ninja n >> that's these people they be getting bold. They've been getting bolder and bolder cuz these other melon this is one of the issues with having tethers around like sauce walker and [ __ ] telling people to think and say [ __ ] >> man we got on >> he's a whole tether too. Yeah, >> that's what I'm saying. People like him, the the New York and Florida connection never fails. One of them tells from there go tell somebody that [ __ ] as long as they say it with a GA and they like hip hop, it don't matter. Now, now you open a conversation up to how we can discuss this. They create conversations that shouldn't exist by they [ __ ] playing like they us without knowing who we are and what we >> Yep. Cuz we not okay with none of that [ __ ] Steven Jackson called him out and um he even he eventually had to speak out too, but we'll get to that in one second y'all. We'll get back to it. Who is this? Elena.
>> Can you hear me?
>> Who is this?
>> This is Elena.
>> Speak. Is that a male name or a female name?
>> Rohan. That's Rohan. You're not invited up here, Rohan.
>> Yeah, block him. You're not invited up here no more, Rohan, for what you did the last time you was up here. You done.
>> What he do?
>> Um uh he put some [ __ ] up on his camera that he wasn't supposed to trying to get the live took down. Goofy ass. We not [ __ ] with you, dude. Get your ass out of here.
>> Now, back to the conversation we was having. Um yeah, that was that was a tether. But bottom line is the these jokes was very distasteful, very disgusting.
Um, and this is this is what George >> and then hold on y'all because Stephen Jackson, he want he he he one of the realest NBA players. He covered it as well. He didn't think that [ __ ] was funny. He spoke out about it. I don't feel like enough people spoke out about it.
>> That's his cousin though. That's why like like people keep saying stuff.
Imagine that people just keep talking about your family member and there's nothing you can do about it cuz they racist.
>> Yeah. So, you all know he used to play for the Spurs and he got a real popular ass podcast on YouTube. I think it's called Up and Smoke. I actually love their podcast he got.
>> Um, but I'm going to go ahead and play this video because he he one of the people that spoke out.
>> You can't tell people what to be offended by and what not to be offended by.
Everybody laughing and let until it's their family member that get murdered.
Then it ain't funny.
Then it ain't funny when it's your family member. It's funny when it's everybody else family member. And it's cool when it's everybody else family member. When it come to your doorstep, you want everybody to feel feel a certain way. See, I rode for my brother.
Didn't take a dime from nobody.
Rised everything I had going on in real time. No cap, no lies.
29 different states marching for my brother. Didn't take a dime from nobody.
Every dime they tried to pay me. Q me and Q gave back to the community. Where we wherever we went, we gave it back.
So you can't tell people that risk things and that really love somebody to feel a certain way when he's disrespected. Clown [ __ ] Y'all keep laughing though.
even worse.
>> You got these [ __ ] that ain't never done [ __ ] in life that's unproven, that can't even change their own circumstances, life kicking them in the ass and they go on other people page and try to convince them to crash out for they entertainment.
Bro, you can't even control your own life. You can't change your own circumstance. You think people that's that's actually successful care about your opinion? Sorry, they don't. Y'all be embarrassing yourself. Just be a fan.
But if you think people f to take your opinion and crash out for your entertainment, dog, you have to be the dumbest person ever, bro.
Nobody cares about your opinion at all, first off. But if you think people going to listen to you and crash out so you can be entertained, that's why you're in the pos position you in now. That's why life kicking you in the ass right now. You know what I'm saying? You want to tell somebody what else to do, but you can't help your mama bring the groceries in the house or buy her a new house. Y'all clowns.
>> Yeah. So, people was mad at him all in his comments. Basically was telling him to go crash out then. Laugh for Von type [ __ ] No, we ain't we ain't falling for that dumb [ __ ] That ain't going to happen.
You know what's crazy though too? Again, it goes back to the small hats. They the ones who wrote all them jokes and did what they did. They love using our people against our own people. Like that's their favorite tactic. And I keep saying again, if we was to say something about what happened to what allegedly happened to their people over there, then they lose their mind. They start shutting people out, blackballing them. You dare the untouchables. But but for some reason, it's okay for them to not be from here, but speak ill on the on our people who are from here and some of our people who did go through slavery and do go and face police brutality.
Like that's okay for them. They inhumane. That's why I don't look at them as humans. I never stand up for what's happening with them. I'm not pro P or pro I, if you know what I'm talking about.
>> I don't care about their situation, but I especially don't care for them.
>> I feel you. I'm with you 100%.
>> Who is this? FBA bail.
FBA bail. Did you come up here on accident? Unmute.
Bail going once, going twice. All righty. Thank you for coming up. So, basically, this is another clip from this same FBA, I'm sorry, from the same Breakfast Club interview. Um, okay. So, this is where they really get into it.
All right. So, check it out, family.
>> George, it wasn't a tasteful joke to our culture, to our audience, but our audience.
>> You're African. You're not a black American. You are cosplaying when you say you've been making bands. Well, you somewhere in China. Don't they got yin?
You're not part of our culture. You African. Stop cosplaying. But anyway, with that being said, inc. What you think? What you think about what he's saying? We'll start with you.
>> I'm trying to figure out if if that's if that's the case, why can't we tell jokes about the small hats? If it's good for the goose is good for the giant. If we if y'all quote unquote can laugh at what's being said about black Americans, why we can't laugh at what's at them?
I'm trying to figure that out because anytime anybody speaks on them, it sparks controversy and they lose their jobs. They have to come out and apologize. So, if we are kikiing and laughing about what slavery, um, police brutality, let's laugh at the, uh, the boy in the strip pajamas.
Oh, that's not funny.
Oh, no, that was a travesty. Slavery was is arguably the the most heinous crime against humanity, and yet they keep joking about it.
what we still going through to this day is is is it's just a byproduct of slavery. And somehow that's supposed to be funny.
Kevin is like my least favorite black American. I I kind of despise that he is one of us. I'm glad that he's as short as he is.
>> Yeah. Now he got to smell everybody farts.
>> Yeah. Cuz that's crazy to me. how everybody else can see the humor in and down in black Americans, but they can't see the humor in any other group being targeted.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, that's going too far. No, they went too far. No, no, no, no. We can laugh, too.
>> They couldn't even take a Duski skit >> at all. They lost their mind. They still going around calling it white face.
That doesn't even exist.
And Kevin know that man was not funny.
There was nothing funny about I don't even know his name. He talking about I just figured out talking about Hitchcliffe. Tony Tony who who I mean he's Tony. Who the hell is Tony? We don't know about him. I know Tony the Tiger. I know him more than I know this dude.
>> Yeah. I don't know who that guy was.
>> Talking about Oh yeah. Um I mean it's him. We don't know these people. I've never looked at a set of this. Matter of fact, I'm going just be for real. I don't really watch YT comedians. They're not funny to me. Yeah, they not.
>> We don't connect on any type of level.
Not a spiritual, not a cultural, nothing. So, I don't care about their jokes. They be disgusting. I I don't like them.
>> Yeah, I think it's disgusting.
>> And Kevin was doing too much. But nothing that was said on that >> during that roast by any of those people. Funny.
It was a bunch of forced laughter, tap dancing, and buffoonery.
>> Yeah.
Mega, what you think so far? What are you saying? Um, yeah, I'm I'm I'm right along with both of our like there are people in instances where I regret like we got to hold the L cuz they are actually black Americans, but I I I wish we could strip blackness from people for real. Like when I So I don't you know the song Ice Box by um Rowdy >> Mitch who >> he said Omar.
>> No no he's not with my No. Yeah. Not not my I'm talking about the uh uh uh eat jumping out the coupe in the truck.
>> Oh yeah. Okay. You talking about Rich? I just hit a lick for the box. I just hit the All right.
>> That's right. Yeah. What about >> So he did a concert and he said, "I want y'all to sing every word." And a crowd full of uh white people. So he essentially got all these white people telling them they could say the word [ __ ] Loud as hell. Whole crowd going crazy yelling uh every every lyric to the word.
Especially when he starts saying [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? stupid as hell.
>> And in that moment, I keep thinking about this quote that uh NIP has said.
Ironically, he was like, "You can't pay me for crypt.
That's a whole institution. People that uh bled and unalived and lived and and and passed away specifically for this.
So, you can't give me money uh to to sell uh [ __ ] converses and think you good cuz you paid nip." That's how I feel about this. I don't own this, so I can't give you permission to to to do this. That's kind of how I feel about the the n-word. These artists and uh entertainers like Kevin Hard or or or Rody Rich in that moment. You don't own the word, [ __ ] So, you shouldn't be giving out publicages to disrespect an entire group. It's like you're accepting payment for our entire group's disrespect, but you keeping the payment in that moment. You get what I'm saying?
>> Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Kevin Hart allowing him because he wasn't talking about well he said Kevin Hart on the jet but it ultimately was a point about uh black black Americans and it's it's not it's it's a they they're supposed to be roasting the person right and the [ __ ] wasn't funny that [ __ ] was dry as hell like I I seen something I'm matter of fact I'm I'mma send you uh this clip because I seen racial jokes that was actually kind of funny where you could laugh That weren't funny. It was just him trying to push the envelope and be as rage baiting runchy as possible. It It wasn't clever.
It was like, "Oh, I'm I'm going to say ninja instead of [ __ ] and George Floyd's in hell." Like, that [ __ ] ain't funny. Like, nothing about that [ __ ] was funny.
>> It wasn't funny. And it was class.
>> You know what's funny? Sugar just made a good point. Kevin just admitted on there, it just went over all our heads, that he said, "This is my set." He approved all of those jokes, which lets you know they are not funny at all. And his laughter was rehearsed.
>> Yeah.
>> So, he knew what they were going to say before they said it.
>> He approved all this [ __ ] >> I mean, I agree what everybody's saying.
I mean, it's real distasteful, classless, disrespectful.
I mean, it's everything above and beyond. I mean, I'm just surprised that we read in, you know, boycott Kevin Hart by now because he been a raccoon.
Like, at the end of the day, he never was funny to me. I never really laughed at Kevin Hart. I never was a fan of Kevin Hart. Uh, I never liked his standup. To me, he was he always was a wannabe Cat Williams in my head.
So really, I don't really care for Kevin Han at all. I just find it just real distasteful. At the end of the day, man, let George Floyd rest. And then he sound like he wanted to say the N word. I wish that [ __ ] would have said [ __ ] I would have got on his ass.
Then he said ninja to me. To me, you said ninja, [ __ ] To me, all that sound about the same.
>> Yeah, pretty much. Pretty much.
>> That's crazy. I just Googled him. You know who brought him out? See, this is why I agree with >> I don't know who he is. I don't know who the white guy is. Say his name like he was somebody.
>> That's true. That we have to start uh we got to take the L. Snoop Dog brought him out. Like they love coming in on the back of black America's coattails only to disrespect us. Cuz when he was on like doing ride around with Snoop, he made sure he was very respectful. When he felt like he got too big and even bigger than Snoop Dog, that's when his jokes started getting racist.
>> No, never fails. It be like them whit rappers that come around, y'all. People be, "Oh, no, they cool. They cool. They don't say the N word. I don't care about none of them." If they are not us, I do not. Stop putting them on.
>> Yeah, that's how I feel, too.
>> To me, people in that art form are sellouts. Let's be honest. A lot of folks in that industry are sell outs.
They have not just sell outs, but sold out. They got no soul.
>> Family, I'm sorry to stop y'all, but uh Buddy just came up here and showed some goofy [ __ ] on his camera. I'm going to end this live real quick and start it back over.
Y'all probably didn't peep it, but I did cuz I I let him up, but I was pressing the camera button the whole time.
>> Did you block him?
>> Yeah, I just blocked him again.
I'm trying to I'm trying to think if we could might might be able to keep going.
You hear me? Because I did.
>> If you don't receive a uh thing, it would probably didn't catch in the uh >> I mean, it probably still best to be safe than sorry.
>> Yeah. I'mma go ahead start it over.
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