Horror sequels succeed when they balance innovation with franchise tradition, as demonstrated by the comparison between Scream and Halloween franchises, where films that respect core elements while introducing fresh elements tend to resonate more with audiences than those that either rigidly follow formulas or abandon what made the original successful.
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Scream 2022 versus Halloween 2018. I want to hear everyone's thoughts and opinions on which one is going first.
Halloween 2018 kind of kicks off the legacy, you know, like the the legacy nostalgia kind of craze. There was other movies like Halloween 2018 before this one came out, but nothing near as popular as this film.
>> I pray every night that he would escape so I can kill him. So, I I gotta give that one kind of an advantage, I think, here, just because this movie really was special. I don't think we would have Scream 2022 without Halloween 2018 in a lot of ways.
>> Do you have a gun?
>> I'm Sydney Prescott. Of course, I have a gun.
>> I think it's it is a very fun film. It maybe has some weird plot points here and there, some strange lines of dialogue that don't necessarily work for everybody, but I feel like it is crazy.
It's a crazy scary and really fun continuation to to in this series. James Jude Courtney as Michael Myers is [ __ ] excellent in this film, dude. I think he he rips throughout this entire film. He's a great Michael Myers. He's in the content. He He's in the Hall of Fame, I think, for sure. Top three Michael Myers like without a doubt.
And I also just love uh Andy Madach as Allison. Great [ __ ] final girl. I think one of the best scenes in the entire Halloween franchise is right here with scored to the the shape hunts Allison where um you know she sees the she sees Michael for the first time beyond the gate. There's a great kill there where the thing goes right through the dude's the bottom of his jaw that the the one kid I can't remember his name because it's been so long since I've seen this movie. But my god I mean what an excellent scene that that's one of my favorites from the from the entire Halloween franchise. I also love the triumph of the end of this movie which is something you don't really get from the original. So, it's a different flavor. I don't know, man. Halloween 2018, it works for me. It's one of my favorite sequels. It's not better than the original, but I think it's really solid.
>> He's waited for me.
>> I've waited for him.
>> Get out of the room.
>> Scream 2022 also got some really good things going on. I think that it's got some some pretty great killers, pretty brutal uh twist at the end. And I think the at least for me, I really vibed with the motive. I think the the ghost faces motive was one of the most interesting to dissect. One of the best ones that I think we've gotten from the modern movies and I think has aged very well considering the state of the franchise.
Let's let's keep that vague and let's say that >> this isn't funny. Amber, >> what do you like to play a game? Terra, >> so I really like how I Scream 2022 really solid stuff going on. I just wish the characters were a little stronger. I think that's my biggest gripe with this film is I think Scream Scream Five has some of the weakest characters in the franchise. Just a little underdeveloped, not as uh maybe not as strong as some of the other entries, especially the ones that came before, but Scream Five still a really fun really fun watch from start to finish. It's brutal as hell. Got some great kills. Um and it's the start to the core four, baby. It's it's the the core for the beginnings. It's maybe a better title for this one. So, I think it's a it's a really fun watch.
Personally, my votes going to go with Halloween 2018, though. I just think uh Halloween 2018 is getting seniority here for me. Um so that's that's where my mind is going at least. Uncle D's, what's up, Uncle D's? How we doing?
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Look at this profile picture. You got a cat smoking a cigarette. Me personally, for right now, I'm I'm going to be a bottom. Yeah, you heard it. You heard it here first, folks.
One vote for for Jake being on the bottom. 30% are saying Scream. 70% are saying Halloween. Halloween. This might be a landslide victory for Halloween unless some of y'all vote. So, we're going to give it another couple of minutes. I watched Halloween 2018 then Scream 2022. Same boat, dude. I saw both in the theaters when they dropped.
Really fun mo, really fun theater experiences. Really positive energy.
People really excited about these franchises coming back. I had a great theater experience with both of these, too. That was that's another thing. I I don't want to don't want to sound like I'm really favoring one or the other too much. I feel like this is a much closer race, at least for me. But I think like Halloween 2018, it really just comes down to seniority. Like I feel like they established this formula kind of first, made it really popular. So I got to say I I think for me at least, Halloween 2018 is is going to take the take the win for now. Ty, you just watched Halloween 2018 and Kills last week. What a what an odd what an interesting time to watch these movies in here in early summer, late spring. Okay. Hey, hell yeah, bro. That's awesome. This first showdown was tough, but Halloween 2018 gets my vote. It this is a tough one, dude. These are some of the more popular, you know, recquel films. I think they're both from some great franchises. Um, it's it's a t it's a tough one out the gate for sure, but I think that's what makes this uh that's what makes this whole conversation fun.
All right. Well, it it is uh it's a little closer now with the votes. We've gotten 25 votes. Halloween 68%, Scream at a 32. It is looking like Halloween is moving forward, guys. And Scream is Scream 5 sadly getting left behind. Just for the record, we're all bottoms in this case. We got Scream 6 and Halloween Kills is up next. I feel like another tough one, at least for me. The prequel sequels. Halloween Kills, I think, is a really fun and maybe a tad underrated sequel. It gets a lot of hate because of the whole Evil Dies Tonight thing. I get it. It's a little annoying. evil dies tonight.
>> But I think this movie is really [ __ ] fun, man. We get to see Michael Myers going on a crazy just killing spree basically the entire time. Most on-screen kills from Mr. Michael. Um, and honestly, some of his most brutal and most silly at the same time. There's some great stuff in here, dude. I I love Halloween kills. Some of my favorite Michael deaths, I think, of the entire franchise. This is one that's grown on me, admittedly, but I really do love it.
The one where he uses the car door so that the girl can the gun flips around.
You know what I'm You know what I'm talking about. This is a kill that has grown. Every time I watch Halloween Kills, I like this scene a little more.
I think it is so [ __ ] funny. And that's the thing about kills to me that I I really appreciate. It is so like all over the place with the tone of its kills. Like you can get some of the most brutal Michael kills in this movie and also some of the silliest. It almost encapsulates like the entire franchise's tone all boiled down into one melting pot of a movie. So, for me at least, Halloween Kills uh it's a blast. It's got a lot of experimental [ __ ] going on too, especially everything going on with the um Tavioli, the psych patient who's running around town and everyone thinks it's Michael. This whole mob mentality and misinformation spreading through the town and forcing some pretty violent acts.
>> No one told you.
>> Tell me what >> not everyone's crazy about that. I loved it. I thought it was a fun little little subplot of this movie, personally. So, Halloween Kills always a movie I I've I've really come to and loved. I don't I don't like the ending because of what it does for for um for ends. So, I will say that's kind of a retroactive negative for Kills, but uh I kind of have the same thoughts about Scream 6, weirdly enough. You know, this is another movie where I feel like it's just one big concoction of a ton of different things from the past all boiled down into this one movie. We're doing a bunch of crazy [ __ ] and experimenting all over the place. Not everything works, but what does I feel like is very fresh and and brings some some new life to the Scream franchise, which I will always cherish and appreciate about this film because my god, there are so many Scream sequels where they do not want to do anything different.
So, Scream 6, it's it's always going to be a big positive in my book that this one actually tried to do something different than the typical formula. Um, especially by, you know, revealing a Ghost Face in the opening sequence, giving us some more brutal kills. Ghost Face is using a shotgun now. I mean, we're we're doing all kinds of different things. The murder mystery might not really land. It's one of the weakest in the whole franchise for sure. But, man, I still have a really fun time with this one. Personally, Scream 6 is getting my vote. We're sw we're we're we're switch I can't even say that. I'm laughing so hard. I'm switching from bottom to top, baby. Yeah, you know what's up. All right, let's see what the chat is saying about it. We got Uncle D's who has just become a YouTube member. My dude, I appreciate you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you again for the support. I hope you're still able to buy cigarettes after this cuz it looks like you need them. You have the hardest [ __ ] profile picture here tonight and I appreciate the hell out of you, my guy.
Thank you for the support. Really do appreciate it. Justin Wise is saying, "Scream six was downright terrible.
Three out of 10." That's not a zero out of 10, though. I mean, that's not that's not the worst thing in the world.
I listen, I'll take a three out of 10 over a zero. Alpha Warlock saying Scream 6. Okay, so we got we got like kind of some mixed mixed thoughts on Scream and and Halloween. Scream six was pretty good, not going to lie, but I give it to Halloween Kills. Okay, so see this is a much closer race, I feel, than the last one. This is interesting. We're a little little more back and forth, baby. Ty is saying if they took out the mob mentality stuff, it would have been so much better that it's a it's a simple change. You would have preferred a more simple downto-earth slasher. Just people running after each other, killing each other. That's it. That's all I need, baby. Don't over complicate it. I would have voted for Halloween Kills if they did justice for Michael Myers. He made him a background and a sidekick killer in that movie TBH. Halloween Ends is really the movie where I feel like they turn him into the sidekick killer. I don't know, you know, what the decision-m was there. I'm I'm not 100% sure, but I, you know, maybe it's like, well, there was so much of Michael and Kills that we're going to use less of him in ends. I don't know. But I that's kind of how I've always felt. There was an imbalance of Michael between kills and ends. And had you had you evened that out a little bit, I think uh both of those movies might have might have worked out a little bit better. They kind of have opposite problems, at least in my mind. But David, I appreciate the five. But hang on, it's getting interesting. Val's views, thank you for the five. You're saying Scream 6 dies tonight. Kills is way better than Scream six. Oh [ __ ] it's getting close, ladies and gents. It is getting It is getting close because now we have five for the bottom and six for the top. Baby, it's a close race. Anything could happen. Oh, see, now we're tying it up, baby. This is going to come down to a coin flip, isn't it? I was like, dude, I was like, I know this is going to happen tonight, so I should find a coin beforehand. And I can't find a [ __ ] coin. Here's what we're going to do. I have this drive that says Lex on one side of it, and then no Lex on the other side. We're going to flip it. And I'm gonna say I'm gonna say Lex for Scream six. So basically heads tails for Halloween Kills. Okay, let's see what happens here in real time, baby.
Hang on now. Okay, so Halloween Kills is moving forward, baby. We got no Lex.
Look at that. Look at that. That upset.
Scream is almost completely out of the race. This is That's That's crazy, bro.
Yo, Ty, thank you for the two. We appreciate you. you know, and you can't feel bad because it did come down to a toss. So, it's like that's just that's just the way the wind blows, man. That's the way the cookie crumbles. The third entries in, you know, different big popular franchises, movies that I feel like we covered extensively here on the page, um, and talked about quite a bit.
Scream 7 versus Halloween Ends. Who's going to take the win here? Now, I got to be honest, guys. These are two movies that did not work for me at all, and I I really was not crazy about either of them. Um, Scream 7, you know, going into that one, I I definitely had some personal stakes in that film. Um, I had lost a friend months and months before who was really excited for this movie.
And I I think I really wanted I I just I'm always going to be biased when it comes to this film because I I feel like that it was kind of making fun of, you know, a lot of people in my life who really wanted something to happen in this movie and that didn't necessarily happen. You know, I I'm I've been so embed embedded in the Scream universe for the last five or six years that it's it's hard for me to love a film that's really just like kind of pissing all over the fans and saying, "Fuck, you're you're dumb for uh thinking that this would happen in this movie." Like a certain fan theory. And that that just always is really going to bum me out about the film.
>> You didn't really think it was Stew cuz that'd be dumb. Steu's dead. So, I I just feel like Scream 7 kind of sucked the fun out of that franchise, and I'm just never going to love I'm just never going to love the film for that reason.
So, you suck the fun out of Scream. What are you doing? You know, that's like taking the cream out of a donut. Is it even a donut anymore? Is it even a cream filled donut? No, I would argue it's a empty husk of a great franchise is sadly all it is to me. So, I I think I got to give my vote to Halloween Ends. Not a much better film in my opinion, but at least it still kind of carries something that people love about the franchise. It did fulfill a certain fan theory that maybe I'm not so crazy about, but at least it did commit um and tried to do something that like, you know, a certain side of the fan base probably really loves.
So, I to me I think the reason Halloween ends gets so much love these days is because um it really explored and tried to explain like Michael's whole whole gig like his whole thing like why he's evil, why he's able to kind of continue on and and be this like this crazy evil entity that seems to be almost invincible. Um and it's it's an interesting way of doing it by focusing on a brand new character who's sus susceptible to that evil essentially.
You know, we have that that line at the end of the film where it's like evil doesn't die or whatever. It just changes shape. It it works for a lot of people.
It doesn't necessarily work for me, but I just appreciate that it committed to trying to do that that angle to Halloween. Even if it doesn't really feel like something that was really a part of the previous two films that were part of that trilogy. So, I'm I'm personally going to go Halloween Ends on this one because at least it it tried to do that. you know, it tried to do something that would make the fans kind of happy, but doesn't necessarily work for me. But I again, it still celebrates this franchise in a way, and I got to appreciate that about Halloween Ends.
How are we feeling out there in the chat? What are what are our thoughts?
Scream seven easily. Come on. I clicked on the wrong Hang on. There we go.
Scream seven easily. Come on. Rest in peace, Craven. Yes. Rest in peace to a a very good friend uh who who would have loved talking who would have loved to have been part of this conversation.
Halloween Ends is better than Scream 7.
Just messed up Scream. I I know. It's It's a It's a shame. Positive Ampute though. Scream 7 for sure. It had some good kills. I'll give Scream 7 that.
Can't vote because not seen seven and I love ends. Sorry. I mean, you could vote for You could vote for ends though. TBH, I actually dig both of these films making controversial moves that didn't bother me at all. Halloween Ends. So So you're going with ends though over seven. Um, ends would have been better if the director didn't listen to the test audience. That seems to be the case with with both of these films, isn't it?
Uh, one of one of my hot takes. I love Halloween Ends. The theme of Evil Doesn't Die. It changes shape. Just worked for me. Yeah, like I was saying a second ago, it definitely worked for a lot of people. I just I I never want to know. I never want Michael explained.
You know, me personally, I like that mystique and I feel like we got to respect that. But, you know, some people, they like the idea of kind of diving a little deeper into that. Both our ass though, says John. Brutal. Um, yeah. Rest in peace to Stephen, baby.
We'll we'll we'll always remember him around here. Haven't seen Seven, but certain I would prefer Ends. Ends has grown on me, but I still don't love it.
I think every time I watch Ends, I I like it a little less, sadly. I I I wish I liked it. I really want to like it. I do. I just There's some just bizarre choices that don't work for me. Um, even though I wish I could I wish I could love it. Valen Vamp, however, is is really making sure that Scream 7 moves forward. We have five votes for seven to keep Scream in this bad boy to make it to to keep Ghost Face alive that Ghostface doesn't lose every single round. That would be crazy if Scream 7 is the one that moves forward and and not Scream Five or Scream 6. That's nuts. But I love it. I love to see it. I love to see Ghost Face still alive.
Fallon, thank you for the five. Really appreciate the support. You're not secretly Jimmy Fallon, are you? I knew Jimmy Fallon was a vampire. Anyways, Super Tenner is saying Halloween Ends rocked in my opinion. Dude, I want the leot so bad. I I really do. I've seen it four times now and like every time I'm like I'm trying to like this. I want to like it so bad, but band kids are bullying our main character who appeared out of thin air. So I I just I don't know. That just does not work for me.
Scream at least had some some good scenes. I hate ends. You know what?
That's fair. I I can get on board with that because I think Scream 7 does have some pretty fun kills and just as an inherent slasher fan, I can I can at least get into that. I I don't think it's a Scream movie, but I do think that it is uh I think it is a fun slasher.
Cory Cunningham kicks Jessica's, Marcos, and Coffee Guys asses. I You know what?
I would I would also agree with that.
All right, we are going to end the poll.
Halloween Ends, two votes, Scream 7, five, baby. I think another another kind of crazy did not think this is how this would go kind of move. But Scream 7 is moving forward. Makes over $200 million at the box office. You know, that's got to count for something, I guess.
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