Free Speech or Criminal Offense? Tony Elumelu Arrest Saga Sparks National Outrage

Added: 2026-05-07

[00:00:00]Three individuals, Kingsley Akuni Chig success bomb and John Supuchi were arrested for allegedly creating and spreading a viral social media post claiming that Tony Illumu and had divorced his wife. The claim was widely circulated online but was later described by his organization as false, fabricated and damaging to his reputation. Those who support the arrest argue that deliberately publishing and amplifying false information about a public figure's personal life can cause real harm and should attract serious consequences, especially when it is done knowingly. However, critics including Omo say even if the claim is false, it does not justify arrest. They maintain that defamation is a civil matter that should be addressed through legal action like lawsuits, retractions and damages, not through detention. This leaves a central question. When forced content damages someone's reputation, should the response be criminal enforcement or civil remedy? Did Tony Lumelu go too far using police arrest content creators over viral divorce claim? What are your thoughts? We'd like you to join the conversation on 02016352013 or 0924163440.

[00:01:21]Can tweet to us at TVC um using the hashtag your view on TVC and you can watch live on DSTV 164 and we're streaming live on YouTube. Uh of course we when we first um >> for me when I first heard the story I heard it after the arrest had been made.

[00:01:40]I didn't hear what the initial um statement said or the videos but then hearing it just to give context uh an 18 year old boy has been arrested for having put up alleging that the Tony Alumu had divorced his wife and apart from his there are a couple of other videos out there you know insinuating a few other things. There's a video showing um insinuating that the >> his children are not his >> his children are not his, you know, and there's one also alleging that his daughter may have HIV and they came up with a fake hospital report showing that and the man after Tony Lumelu his organization after um saying that this was false and fabricated went ahead to re arrest this young man. So people are saying he has gone too far. After all, he's on social media himself. If he all he has to do is to just say that that was false and move on or handle it or should he get police involved to arrest someone for having saying just saying things against him?

[00:02:50]>> Okay. So the being on social media, how does it, you know, permit liel and slander? because I'm mixing it up and I'm surprised that >> I'm surprised because apparently exposure is not education >> or education is not exposure because I don't know being on social media all of us are on social media but I don't set ring lights and call out people that I don't know anything about even some that I know that have done something to me directly I don't sit down cor and say because I don't have evidence in fact I have a case at hand now that was given to me and I was asking the person has As you know, um, compelling as the story sounds, I need some of the evidence that will encourage a petition because I cannot write a petition and don't attach something. You're saying now that if I just said ring light because everybody's on social media these days, I can call anybody on social media as a social media game. Is that what is saying with the knowledge that he has?

[00:03:48]>> Now, I saw the first video. So, I'm trying to make out what I think is happening around to Lumu right now. And trust me, I don't send any big man. It's not about because he was big. I'm just grateful that his bigness is helping him to fight his justice faster because I hate injustice.

[00:04:04]>> I saw a man, he was a darkkinned man, not this one any of the selected videos, the initial one on Twitter, and he was he was saying it as if he had evidence calling out the kids to be not to be illegitimate kids, insisting. If you see the way the video was done, I kept saying, "Wait, who are you? Who are you?

[00:04:25]>> You're not relative. You're not his doctor. You're nothing. You don't have any links, no source, no credible source. And you put the ring light.

[00:04:32]You're not even using safe words in in exact words. It was alleging exact words that this man's wife was unfaithful because that's where we are missing the point. You're coming to the character of the wife >> when you call the children illegitimate and that he found out that the children were not ease.

[00:04:51]>> Oh god. You're taking an entire family down alleging in that video that he will be divorcing his wife. That was the first video I saw. So all these spiral videos I saw later on must be from that person. I'm hoping that out of the three they pick they pick that br because they had to pick him.

[00:05:07]>> That brilli's bigness can help him. All those I cannot find can afford a secret investigator that will find them in any part of the world and they will face the the law in any part of the world because libel is a general law everywhere in the world.

[00:05:29]>> Now you do that video you did not stop there. You did not retract unlike the young boy whose sister has come out to say he retracted when he found out his source was you know and all of them are on Twitter even sorry on social media social it was a Tik Tok video that guy did and you know they must have the way he was talking it was too convincing for somebody who didn't have evidence of what he was saying and so everybody that followed suit and started doing videos must have relied on him they have to find that person whose video was the very first who was too convincing for something he had no evidence of them. You now come to a man, you go to his family, you go to his wife, you go to his children and then you say there's limits to how he will enforce the law. I don't understand if the law gives us option of assault being a battery and an assault that is can be criminal, it can be civil and I choose say you slap me. I could have sued you.

[00:06:22]I could have sued you and come to court and say court doctors charge me 20,000.

[00:06:26]But when I look at it and say no your 20,000 cannot that they used to treat me just cannot compensate me. That's not justice. Let them put the justice. If I look at the law and the one for criminal is justice for me. Will somebody come and teach me which one I should exercise?

[00:06:40]>> You cannot tell me the one to it's not your slap is not your pain.

[00:06:44]>> Nobody has called Shore's wife an an unfaithful woman. Nobody has called his children illegitimate. Let me see how he will react >> because we've sat on this table. We've done some topics. I remember was when we did topic on and I said if they run DNA we're all asking. I remember when I was asked if you run DNA you can run.

[00:07:00]Freedom of DNA is there. But how we will deal with it after the DNA is another matter because that goes to my character.

[00:07:07]>> What he means >> that goes to my reputation that goes to my credibility and you cannot now question it and come back and say sorry we are friends. No something must give.

[00:07:16]So now you you're calling out a man and you are limiting because you want to be a freedom fighter how he should react to it.

[00:07:22]>> So Sh is trending. is enjoying the clout he's getting and he should also be careful about um the the clout he's getting is based on his perceived value of his name and the perceived value of his name is based on what he's saying and what he just said concerning this particular case will definitely affect the perceived value of his name because I was wondering if you're supposed to fight for justice shouldn't you be on the side of or because a a rich man should not um pursue a case because he's rich or what? Because I had to go and check what >> how he proceeded.

[00:07:57]>> I went to check because based on the Nigerian law, you can the defamation is not just it's not only civil, >> it's both civil and criminal. So I can it's and and you can be um if the process goes through you can be sentenced to as much as 3 years imprisonment for defamation. So when this kind of statements people just make statements and say oh I saw online and then you set camera and or you also posted a video or you also did a rejoiner or you're publicizing and republishing a content you cannot verify. I am I believe that we should have more punitive 3 years, 2 years, one year imprisonment so that we would have less people jump on trends because they want to make that money from social media. Because guess what? If you do get a lot of views on Tik Tok, you get a lot of money from from Tik Tok. And if you come there and talk about how somebody's family, the children are not their children, people will keep resharing. Do you do you know do you know the places they said lie travels faster than the truth? How long will it take this person to I mean um to the lumin and his wife to start explaining it is just social media. It is extremely irresponsible for anybody to go out there even if you have facts if you have DNA evidence if you saw everything through um in the hospital or something. You have no right to come out and publish somebody else's.

[00:09:20]Think about the children involved.

[00:09:22]>> There are children involved. the the um um tool his wife and his children is not your business and what are you hoping to achieve numbers so that you will make money is very irresponsible. We need to start um following through with getting justice for issues like this because when we don't when we accept apology and um what do you call that stuff when you come out and say >> when you do when you when you say disclaimer that oh you apology and doing a disclaimer should it cannot serve in any way because they'll say they can say it's under duress they can say he paid them that's why they are now doing the um apology or disclaimer. I feel that it's extremely important that Shir pursues I mean um Tony pursues the case and when I I read some comment and they were saying oh arrested him because has money and all of that in Nigeria people disappear you can have somebody that you know the known address and the person dis we don't records can the person can disappear so if the person is not detained how do you ensure that they show up in in the court for the case you're trying to prove >> I just feel really really sad and I hope the children have enough maturity based on training to be able to manage the things they will see online. They are teenagers which means that they are also online and their friends in school who be saying you are not your mother's child. I saw someone's case a judge a a justice a justice in the east that she was posted as a judge in the east and somebody posted online that she just saw the woman in a private jet of the president of the governor and that the woman went to the hotel with the governor and she was the daughter said it was that told the mom that I was googling your name to show my friends in school and the first thing I saw was that you were in the hotel with the governor of the state in the school and she she was she said she broke down was crying like huh what how can this happen we don't know what you're doing.

[00:11:10]>> You don't know what you're doing because at every point in time whatever you do would have impact on the childrensection have consequences. YK what were your own thoughts when you saw the video and the initial tweets and messages? Um >> you see it is until you wear the shoe >> m >> before you can know you know um it's possible to say [clears throat] ah she be there small kids why are you putting you know why are you so it's it's easy until you wear that shoe >> that and recently I have worn those shoes >> of people just coming to my page. They don't know me. They I've when I put my mouth, I didn't say anything.

[00:12:07]When they will come to my page, they will draw me as a pig, you know, and >> for me because I don't really check social media and when I will check, I will just delete and block. M but you know you can imagine um sometimes the hurt you feel once I was forced to respond to someone that went on Needle's page NO is Maddy's wife >> to say this woman can't dress she look at how she's doing how does she want to keep her you know very hateful I had to respond to her why are you not minding your own business >> you know leave this woman and her husband has the husband complained you know I was quite so the woman she now responded well she's surprised that I'm responding like that I should have >> you should have like >> turn the other cheek while they allow to punch you down >> stop so I I don't really want to go on whether what they did I what I want to know now is what is the solution >> there has to be a solution is it re-education Is it um having a school for cyber >> cyber crime, >> cyber etiquette, >> you know, so that everybody knows if you want to be a blogger, you must attend this course.

[00:13:31]>> Yeah.

[00:13:32]>> Licensing them properly, content creator. Yeah. If you want to be a content creator, you must attend this.

[00:13:39]You must So you will know. Someone did it to me. I was and I remember when um it was when Madd got married she put something on someone name is Agatha or something was her name I gather or something she put something so negative about me I was mad I was leaving I lawyer straight >> sh be begging you >> straight up you know let them give them >> I were able to >> yeah she took it down but you couldn't find her >> and that was because I wanted to carry her to court >> I I wanted to deal with her. That was how annoyed I was.

[00:14:14]>> So, people would say Share is saying that's what you should do instead of asking the police to arrest them. But there's a video of um Shere's response to the um allegations. Let's see. Can we have the video play now, please?

[00:14:29]>> People because they claim that Lumlu is engaging in divorce. That's not a criminal offense. If my marriage is still intact, they should just issue a statement to say me and my wife are still together. It's as simple as that.

[00:14:43]But they always love to use their position to oppress people and we hate it. So the intervention has already commenced. We have uh we've asked lawyers and also contacted the police that the police force must be sanitized to the point that it doesn't intervene in rubbish. Nigerian police has become useless. The Nigerian police, their DSS friends, all of them are all doing foolish things every time. They're not trying terrorists. They are not trying to arrest and they arresting bloggers who are discussing marriage. If you go to the US where they borrow their democracy from, tablos will write stories and people buy it at the supermarket whether they are true or not. It's free speech.

[00:15:27]Live with it. Evenu himself, how does he live his life? He lives his life on the internet till Lumelu is always showing that he has a private jet, you know. So why is it why is he worried about uh being being spoken about on the internet?

[00:15:47]Tony Lumelu is the biggest content creator in the in the billionaire industry. He's always showing off himself. So he's the one who brought himself out to be in the public do and he's a public figure. People must talk about the life of public figures.

[00:16:02]So they they cannot they cannot be benefiting from the social media space and they try to shut it down by arresting bloggers. Talk about that foolishness.

[00:16:15]>> Okay. You want >> I wanted to react immediately to >> react cuz I want to read something.

[00:16:20]>> Okay. Go on.

[00:16:21]>> Okay. It says yes liel can be a crime while primary a civil wrong thought.

[00:16:27]Wrong thought used to sue for damages to reputation liel liel. The publication of false defamatory statements in impermanent form is still treated as a criminal affair in some jurisdictions particularly under the Nigerian law.

[00:16:42]Okay.

[00:16:43]>> Where it can lead to imprisonment.

[00:16:45]However, in many other regions such as England, criminal liel has been abolished. So >> So that confirms what >> I just wanted to what I read said earlier.

[00:16:55]>> Yeah. inform people that come >> is both a civil and assault is also that way.

[00:17:01]>> So assault can also be pursued civily or criminally and I can choose which one I call justice. If you slap me and I think the slap lad way and I think that you deserve a two months in jail to match the slap that's what I'll pursue.

[00:17:14]>> Okay.

[00:17:14]>> And so you cannot come and tell me oh it's civil so pursue civil when I know there's an option of take your call. I want to see >> we have a call.

[00:17:23]We have Mrs. Joshua calling from Yola.

[00:17:26]Good morning, Mrs. Joshua.

[00:17:29]>> Good morning, my ladies.

[00:17:31]>> Good morning.

[00:17:32]>> God bless you all. I love the work that you people are doing for us.

[00:17:37]>> I love the topic of this morning. Okay.

[00:17:40]>> What I just want to say concerning Shore is that I don't I'm very sorry to say I think something is wrong with Shore because the way Shuare has been abusing the government, abusing police, abusing DSS. I I I think something is wrong with him. Okay. This thing quite all right. A child a child came to social media and started abusing the a man like this with the wife.

[00:18:14]>> Okay.

[00:18:15]>> Like both people were saying this thing will affect the children.

[00:18:22]We affect the wife. In fact the whole family and will now come up and say why should theu arrested this boy?

[00:18:34]>> Yes. I think something should be done to shel the way is and is part of the people that are are encouraging all these our children to be misbehaving is is part of them.

[00:18:49]>> Okay.

[00:18:50]>> Something happen like this is not for you to call a SP because you want to show that you are an activist. asking minister what if somebody should say your own wife is is sleeping with another man will he like it will he like it but because he has gone to so somebody know we should not have rich rich people again in this country >> thank you Mr. Because anything that concerns rich people is problem >> is problem.

[00:19:22]>> Please something should be done to to to Shore is showing more than what his mouth can take.

[00:19:29]>> Okay. Thank you so much Mrs. Joshua for your contribution. So she's calling out Share and what he said.

[00:19:36]>> Even in the video you see that he picked only one part of the entire deformation to react to. Okay. So part of all the videos was that um Tony Lumu found out the children were not his and was going to divorce his wife. So >> he divorced the wife.

[00:19:50]>> Okay.

[00:19:50]>> So maybe some of the videos of the >> could it be that Sher was not even aware of the full context >> context. That's what I was >> what was online.

[00:19:59]>> I think either he wasn't aware or he chose what to react to. And I think that he wanted to react to the illumu personality, >> the billionaire, >> but he's a human bill who is on social media. But recently, somebody went on a rise and called out Dangote.

[00:20:18]>> He sat at an interview and called out Dangote as if he had evidence, facts, and figures.

[00:20:25]>> Yes.

[00:20:25]>> And you know when a big man is a big man, you can prove to the court that the damage you suffered was 500 billion >> as a dangote. By the time they slapped him with [laughter] a suit >> and he retracted one laugh about the retraction, >> we have a call.

[00:20:50]>> Good morning, sir.

[00:20:51]>> You're not serious.

[00:20:52]>> Good morning.

[00:20:53]>> Good morning, sir. Welcome to [laughter] the show.

[00:20:57]>> Okay. Uh, >> please go ahead.

[00:21:01]I just want to contribute to this issue please. It's a very serious issue.

[00:21:05]Number one, there are just two things I want to say. The first one being I think there's need very serious and urgent need that these things should be trend want to make money and you don't care the effect on another person >> especially this our young very do something about the second one is you know he enjoys this he I don't know why I g attention you know what he's doing I don't know I don't know his age but he indirectly encouraging bad behavior >> thinking that he's joining popularity among the youth and all that that's not how to get popular so that is not you know so there's need for somebody to check there's need for to be taught a serious lesson will not fall >> thank you very much >> thank you for Thank you papa today for your contribution.

[00:22:10]This I was saying >> okay >> the person had called out Dangote the billionaire and a billionaire of Dangote status can prove to the court based on this damage that this this information the damage I suffered to my reputation was close to this amount >> you don't need if you if you have lawyers in your circle that's how we measure these things you'll be telling aunt uncle it will fly >> and so the next morning >> we saw >> they said on the same platform where you do it that's where you will retract it >> exactly >> and the man came and I saw [laughter] very humble.

[00:22:39]>> He was humble and now you are saying that >> it should be different because they are young boys.

[00:22:45]>> We don't have enough precedents of this nature. Thanks to Badmos, we don't have I can set ring light and call you a pimp.

[00:22:53]>> Mhm.

[00:22:54]>> I just don't like you and sit talk when she's selling land. It's not land inside that land. She's selling something else.

[00:22:59]>> Mhm.

[00:23:00]>> She travels a lot. Ah, she does a lot.

[00:23:02]Oh, tell D. I can do that. And then to is my friend come and tell her sorry in the private yo I'm sorry and then that should be enough but that's the damage that I have done to her reputation it's enough for her to not even have patronage anymore. Yeah, exactly. I know as important as it is on the family as well, for some people it will also affect their business because you just think >> so. If it's just a divorce, he should have just said >> based on the example gave just now of the justice. You see those lies, they don't cling, >> they never you see that lie that follows you >> when they come and do a disclaimer you the lie will also always still be on on social media.

[00:23:43]>> Okay, let me take a call then I'll come to you internet. We have a caller, Prince from Leki. Good morning, Prince.

[00:23:51]>> Good morning, madam. Good morning, Mariam. And >> morning and uh how are you?

[00:24:04]>> Good morning for the shout out. Thank you for the shout out.

[00:24:08]>> All right. All right. I'll be at the venue on Saturday. Thank you. Um so let me react to this trending topic. Number one, um I think usually nice to try um for the for the fact that this guy has been this year old has been detained beyond 24 hours and people generally take it to be a case of might or man over a man and then people will always underdog or the person.

[00:24:39]But the truth be told in criminal law or in criminal cases just like in civil cases you still have the right to prepare hearing appear before the judge and then so what police failed to do in court within 24 hours they had no reason that guy in detention >> if he was on Friday >> overreach that is pure executive over that guy before a judge the magist and give him a bill.

[00:25:11]>> Okay, >> my own except for that is when you can detain the person from the judge of the judge to detain the person beyond a certain number of that is my contribution. Thank you.

[00:25:32]>> Thank you Prince for your contribution.

[00:25:34]Yeah.

[00:25:34]>> Okay. He was saying that and let me just give a summary of what he's saying. The young boy has been allegedly locked up for a week.

[00:25:42]>> So he's saying that it's what they call executive overage that he should have been locked up a certain amount of time, 24 hours and then 48 hours charged to court and not just locked up indefinitely because you have the resources to >> um talk you wanted to.

[00:25:55]>> I totally agree with him. So um you know we we have to learn to be more polite about what we say because um social media is now the place of insult where we just throw insults around. So my grouse in this situation um Tony Lumlu has a case against three people is a case of defamation. If he went about that case illegally, maybe he used um his maybe area boys or thugs, they went to beat the boys up. That's a it's a crime should be addressed. If he used police without establishing a proper case to arrest these people and held them in detention for a long time, it's a proper case. When you when you address the media and you wash the police, this is a country that you you have option of where you can go to. I don't have option of where I can go to. This is my country. This is my children's country.

[00:26:51]We don't have alternative passport. This is where we live. You watch the police.

[00:26:55]You wash the DSS. Like we have another option.

[00:26:59]We all know that we we we see the gaps in how the police is managing issues. We see the area we discussed it last week.

[00:27:06]The extra judicial killing. Oh, the police have had it better. They should not call it spiritual. We know there are gaps that the police can improve on. But you you take a position which is why I said perceived value of which social media is all around you hailing you for fighting for justice and you decide that you want to insult and wash an institution that remains the only place that we can go to to report injustice.

[00:27:30]What are you trying to achieve with doing that?

[00:27:36]I would like you to detain this long. The police should do better. But if you have insult the police, it just waters down what you trying to the police.

[00:27:50]>> Oh, the video down does that all the time.

[00:27:55]>> He insulted the police, insulted DSS because he to say something, >> right? But some people will tell you that we definitely need people like this who can speak for those who may not have access to influence and resources like that. How they do it now is another problem. But there are sometimes some people don't they in their rights but they they don't have any form of representation and people like have been known to step in for people like that.

[00:28:16]I'll listen to your response woman with um now >> exactly why let me take this call and then we can talk about >> we have a caller um >> TV from thank god from bad good morning thank god >> yeah good morning everyone >> morning >> good morning yeah actually you see I would like to I don't know if I would like to digress and I would like to let me I want to contribute to the issue of the South Africa phobia are going on.

[00:28:50]>> Okay. I think uh if I if our government very very serious at this they should impose an economic sanction on the South Africa that the government they are really really they are really aware of what is going on and they >> this line is >> action on their feet Because if we don't do this, this thing is going to continue for years.

[00:29:26]>> It will still going to repeat itself.

[00:29:30]And this is as a result of our government on our on their own side of Nigeria and they still continue to >> stopping this uh >> so sorry um so sorry thank god the the line is not so clear you keep breaking up but we get the general message so he's referring to our very first topic which is the xenophobic attacks happening in South Africa and he thinks our government should um institute economic sanctions which I agree with.

[00:30:09]>> So I was going to say compares our police with the American police.

[00:30:14]>> Okay.

[00:30:14]>> All the time and when he compares them you think that in the American police system you just get justice.

[00:30:20]>> Mhm.

[00:30:21]>> You don't see these excesses.

[00:30:23]>> So you don't give people weapons without seeing these excesses.

[00:30:26]>> That's why you have checks. You can talk about the system that checks them, but you cannot talk about them not having the excesses because we see black lives really we need it to matter. Okay?

[00:30:36]>> You know, we see all other instances. We see what ICE is doing right now. We see that this nobody's checking them.

[00:30:43]>> I hear that. But I would like us can can we stay on this?

[00:30:46]>> We want to stay on this. But the where the caller took him is that you know, you can't keep calling out the system because you might need that system later on to avail you. And just so just maybe as a response to you also on the side of Shere that Shere himself is not perfect in his defense for those who he feels do not have access >> to you know what we should [clears throat] also maybe give him that same grace we're asking I want to talk on behalf of Sh for a second.

[00:31:16]>> Okay. While I I don't um agree with people on social media coming to be abusing you, someone like Share has suffered in the hands of the police. Two of us.

[00:31:30]>> True.

[00:31:31]>> So talking from his own experience >> as someone who has suffered in the hands of the police, he and he has seen a lot of injustice.

[00:31:43]You know because sometimes when police come for you, they will come with slap.

[00:31:48]>> Mhm.

[00:31:48]>> Mhm.

[00:31:49]>> Carry you.

[00:31:50]>> Yes.

[00:31:51]>> People like that will not see anything good in anything that the police.

[00:31:56]>> Do you understand?

[00:31:59]>> When my father was alive, you you tell my father that ah police is your friend?

[00:32:03]Police is whose friend?

[00:32:04]>> If we I explain to you how police is not his friend. How police have come to his house. How police have beaten him. They beat him. One day he fainted and was in the gutter. It was from the gutter. He fainted in the gutter. It was from the gutter. If you tell that kind of person, you will not want to hear. True.

[00:32:22]>> He will not want to accept >> even if there have been some good instances because he he so maybe Share has had a lot of I know he has been he has dealt with their own excesses.

[00:32:32]>> Yes. So, >> so if you haven't dealt with not you are just you as a person has not um someone hasn't dealt with the issues >> you will not it's just like >> I understand the trauma I understand the trauma but has the platform to inform to to inform the police as well as inform his followers.

[00:32:54]He has the he has the power to change a lot of things. So for instance, the caller that called now and informed us quickly called me back to order. If the police arrested this young man, they should have arraigned him within 48 hours and he has he should have access to his lawyers. If he wants to do, his lawyers should already be negotiating.

[00:33:11]All of those room for his human rights should have been given.

[00:33:14]>> Yes.

[00:33:14]>> And if came and said, "Oh, the police are doing this because he's a big man.

[00:33:18]They did not arraign him within 48 hours. He's still in detention within one week." You have to put it in context. Okay, let me >> Yeah, let me take this call. Um, from Tundday from Oata. Good morning, Tundai.

[00:33:32]>> Yeah, good morning.

[00:33:33]>> Thank you for calling.

[00:33:35]>> I don't bore my credit finish.

[00:33:37]>> Oh, what's up for that love?

[00:33:39]>> Yeah.

[00:33:40]>> Yeah. Um, I would like to contribute to the topic.

[00:33:44]>> Okay.

[00:33:44]>> And it's just a simple straight point I want to address.

[00:33:49]>> You see, we endure so many things that need to be corrected.

[00:33:53]Sh or no sh two runs cannot make a right.

[00:34:00]>> You see if something has not happened to an individual he will not know how the gravity of what the issue at hand is.

[00:34:11]Somebody just coming on social media defamation a personality of somebody that he cannot even he cannot even you know he is not up to that person in any capacity.

[00:34:26]>> You don't have somebody behind you. You don't have somebody beside you >> either by the or by the right or in front or your back. You just go social media and defamate somebody's personality and people will come on here and say he has a right he has that. Let me tell you one thing. There is freedom of speech and there's limit to where freedom is.

[00:34:50]>> That is saying it now. I have watched it on TV. Sh abusing a police officer. Is that a portray?

[00:34:58]>> This is where these children get it from they think that they feel that they can do it and go score free. So what now? He has a personality.

[00:35:09]>> This small boy, what does he have? M go and copy to your >> sometime you've mar your limit of where you can t mind your limit when something is power is called power when something is authority is called authority so if you don't have the capacity you stay at your limit >> thank you for your thank you today for your contribution we I I understand what is happening and what we're saying is excess on every part the person who yes the person who has put out all those false claims.

[00:35:43]>> Excess.

[00:35:43]>> Excesses. How Tony Lumelu has addressed it. Excesses. How the police have been involved so far. Excesses. So, and whether we like it or not, those excesses is the Nigerianness of a lot of things that happens with us. If you have if you're the person that knows the police, you know how you use the police.

[00:36:02]If you have money, you know how you use your money. In this case, we all agree that Tony Elumelu was um he's he was wronged here.

[00:36:11]>> But because of what how long that that young man has been in the police station, we now have someone that is able to call him out of this. Let me give an example. I remember, you know, growing up sometimes if like an older person does something to you when you're reporting to my mom and then it shows that because you felt slighted by the older person. There's a way you spoke to the elder person or say she says now it's no longer the conversation about what the person did to you but how you responded. You've now made it the case of how you responded. So it's important that we do what we need to do but are you know within the context of the law and that young man has he's going to face the law many ways like he he does not even have to be kept in the cell for that long for him to face the law in such a way that will be a a he will be like a scapegoat >> you know a reason for a lot of young people to be more careful how they use social media layer there's another layer to the lumlu is seemingly seems to have they feel like he has overreacted in how among the boys are the those people are being detained.

[00:37:15]>> Then Sh's comment too, we are talking about it because he seemed to have overreacted with the insulting of the police. We must be measured in how we see what we're saying.

[00:37:24]>> Finally, I I wanted to say something quickly.

[00:37:26]>> You see, man pass, money pass money. And this is what we see in this illum case.

[00:37:33]>> He has money.

[00:37:34]>> Yes.

[00:37:34]>> And is that money that he has used to silence?

[00:37:37]>> Yes.

[00:37:38]>> Use police silence the guy. Use everything. Silence guy.

[00:37:41]>> Okay. Silence for >> listen me I went to police I myself went to police that somebody is duping me >> and you pay of hundreds of thousands of dollar naira >> and this is the person's account this is the person's name I should bring 250k >> did I have it >> so m don't die >> mhm if I was a lumu now that guy will be in jail >> truth for more than a week >> you know >> but because I'm who has no money.

[00:38:12]>> Let's >> the guy will go and keep another person.

[00:38:15][laughter] >> I know you have not said it on TV. We know the Yes, that's valid. But I think >> but can I just read this your view fans?

[00:38:23]They say it says good morning and the rest of the ladies. I don't condone what the content creator did. However, you are using a sledgehammer to crack a knot. There is freedom of speech all over the world including Niger such I'm using his comment. It's not my comment. such as police involved in a is a waste of police time and resources.

[00:38:44]Illumin has the right to sue the content creator without getting security forces involved and has the capability and means to do so.

[00:38:52]>> Okay.

[00:38:53]>> His name is Hakeim. We need to ended speech ends where your >> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you ladies.

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