“I Don’t Need a Driver’s License!” — Moorish Sovereign Citizen Explodes in Court!

Added: 2026-05-13

[00:00:00]And also I just want to say um I'm I'm making a special appearance in my appropriate persona.

[00:00:06]>> Well, you're here specially or otherwise and you wish to represent yourself in this matter. When we discussed this last time, I said if you have if you're going to represent yourself, then you need to do it right. You need to show up at the appointed time, which you have done. Uh if you have pleadings you wish to file, you have to file them and provide a copy to the prosecutor, which you have done.

[00:00:31]So let me go through the things that you filed with the court and see if Miss Davis agrees. You filed one of these I think for each case. There is one called exhibit one affidavit of fact writ of discovery for the 2020 2073 case and the civil infraction that's attached to that. Then you filed a rid of discovery affidavit fact in each of the cases.

[00:01:02]Does that document require me to make any ruling or anything or you simply wanted to have that on file?

[00:01:10]Your honor, before he responds that I don't have any of those in my files.

[00:01:16]>> Oh, you don't?

[00:01:18]>> No.

[00:01:18]>> He came to the courthouse. Uh, you didn't get these?

[00:01:22]>> No. He's talked about them each time he's come in, but he has not provided any to our office.

[00:01:29]>> Well, some of these are printed on 11 and a half by 14 paper. It's hard to find something that will print that, but I will make sure that you get a copy of each of these documents. Thank you.

[00:01:40]>> I think she put him in on on base.

[00:01:44]Anyway, regarding the Ritz of Discovery affidavit of fact, is there anything you want me to do with that or you simply wanted to place that on file?

[00:01:53]>> Um, I had to So, um, so everything I do I have to place on public record so I so I let everyone know what's going on. So, um, so I basically have to have to, um, anytime before court, I have to, you know, send them my affidavit so I can let the court know what's going on, um, prior to me being there. Um, so I accepted these, they've been destamped December 1st. They're placed in the onbase filing system, and I will provide copies of each of these to the prosecutor.

[00:02:27]>> Those are on, it's my understanding, let me recap. What else? What else you filed? You filed a document called 1508 point specifically mentioned identification documents 18 USC 1028 and an accompanying house resolution.

[00:02:48]>> Yes, >> received that for filing. I'll provide a copy to the prosecutor.

[00:02:53]You filed a position statement of certification from the Pennsylvania House of Representatives from 1933 right to know law request. I've received that date stamped it and I will provide a copy to the prosecutor.

[00:03:11]>> Sweet.

[00:03:13]>> You provided a copy of the Constitution of the United States of America North Continent. The preamble and the Constitution. And you also provided a copy of the Bill of Rights. We're all familiar with those, but I'll accept it for filing and provide a copy to the prosecutor. You all also filed a document called legal notice, name declaration, correction, proclamation, and publication.

[00:03:43]>> Yes.

[00:03:43]>> And sealed. And I've received that, destamped it, and we'll provide a copy to the prosecutor. Then you filed something called United Nations Declaration the Rights of Indigenous Peoples 28 29page document from the United Nations.

[00:04:02]I'm not sure the date it is 2007 and that's also date stamp December 1st and a copy is'll be provided to the prosecutor. Then you filed a copy of a treaty of peace and friendship dated 1787 between Morocco and the United States.

[00:04:23]And that is a fourpage copy apparently of a treaty from 1787.

[00:04:29]Again, that's date stamped. It's been received for filing and we'll provide a copy to the prosecuting attorney.

[00:04:36]>> All right. So, I've accepted your filings. You wish them to be on the record and they are. Thank you very much.

[00:04:42]>> We have some we have some things we have to discuss, >> but also >> All right. What else did you want to say?

[00:04:48]>> I apologize. I wasn't trying to cut you off. Um, but also um it's it's from my understanding that all affidavits uh must be answered or else they stand in law as law. So, so I'm hoping that um I'm hoping that you all will um review all my documentation and um and an answer to my um affidavit, please.

[00:05:12]>> All right, let me rule on that. This is not a legal document per se. It's not a motion. It's not a uh it's just a declaration that there is no answer. I've accepted them for filing.

[00:05:27]I'm not requiring the prosecutor to file an answer and the court won't be filing any answer, but I've accepted your documents. So, that's my ruling on that.

[00:05:38]All right, let's go through this.

[00:05:40]>> But I also challenge jurisdiction from day one and that was never an issue.

[00:05:44]>> You've made your motion and I >> No, it's not a motion.

[00:05:48]>> All right. Well, I decline your challenge of jurisdiction, >> but you don't have the authority to. You have to prove jurisdiction. You have to physically prove jurisdiction with like paperwork and documentation. It's it's not because you just want it. And I mean that respectfully.

[00:06:03]>> Well, certainly they have to prove venue which is where the crime alleged where the crime committed at trial. But you've made a motion and I've declined it. So you can appeal it if you're convicted.

[00:06:14]You'll have you've preserved these objections for appeal. Right now you're presumed to be not guilty. You haven't been convicted of anything. You're challenging jurisdiction. Yes.

[00:06:25]>> Challenging these things by answer. I've denied them. If you are convicted, you would have a right to appeal your denial of your motions. So, I'm preserving each of your motions, but I'm denying them. But if you wish to appeal it, if event you're convicted, um, you have a right to do that. So, >> understood.

[00:06:47]>> All right.

[00:06:48]>> But also, for the record, they're not motions. They're affidavit of facts.

[00:06:52]>> All right. Well, okay. I'll accept that as affidavit of facts, you preserve your your objection. Now, there's three separate incidents where you allegedly were driving and at least two of them you were speeding.

[00:07:06]Um, the prosecutor has filed a motion to join all of those three cases in one trial. What's your response to that?

[00:07:16]Uh she's saying rather than have three separate jury trials on this, I request to join them all for one trial.

[00:07:24]>> Um all for one trial.

[00:07:28]>> Yeah, you're entitled under the law to have three separate trials. uh one for the January 21 case, one for the November of 20 case, and one for the October or September of 20 case. There are three separate incidents. prosecutor contends they show a pattern of continuing to drive without a valid Michigan license, but so she's moved to join them, but it's your right to have them tried one at a time if that's what you wish. So the prosecutor filed a motion to join them into one trial. Um, do you have a position on that?

[00:08:11]Um well um I definitely requested um trial by my national peers, but I know that's not going to happen. Um but um no, I don't I don't want them all to be combined.

[00:08:28]>> So the defendant objects.

[00:08:31]Miss Davis, you wish to speak to that?

[00:08:34]>> Your honor, I stand on my pleadings as filed. They file a motion with a brief attached acknowledging uh the court rule uh under which we're seeking this for judicial efficiency or cost involved with these uh and the facts themselves.

[00:08:50]I believe that the the court should join them together to have one trial. Thank you.

[00:08:56]>> All right. One wrinkle to this m Mr. tomorrow Bay is if you have one trial, the prosecutor gets one shot at convicting you, you have to be proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. We have one trial, it's all over at one trial. If there's three separate trials, they have three separate attempts to prove the charge.

[00:09:21]Um, so that's something to consider.

[00:09:26]However, >> understood. Uh you I'm going to grant your objection. It certainly would be more judicially efficient to join these into one trial and in one day, but there's substantial prejudice if there's a trial and the jurors know that you've done this three times in uh 70 or 80 days.

[00:09:53]uh your defense is essentially the same to all three cases, but I think your risk of prejudice outweighs the prosecutor's desire to do this in a one case efficient manner.

[00:10:14]>> Um I see I see.

[00:10:20]>> All right. So, I'm going to we'll set these >> all for the same day, but we're going to only do one at a time. Now, the next >> Now, if I if I wanted to change this at a later date, is that is that a thing I could do or is that just um >> No, I guess if you change your mind and decide I'm going to set all three cases for the same day. Uh but we unless you agree, we're only going to try one case.

[00:10:46]Let's say for example, we set all three cases and uh officer so and so uh is having a baby on that day. I'm ask for adjourn that. We could adjourn that and try one of the other cases. So, we're going to set all three to make sure we can do at least one. And if you change your mind and you agree to have them joined into one case, you need to tell us by uh a certain date. Now, Deborah, I've been looking at the date.

[00:11:19]Uh, I've already schedu for this because m Mr. Maro Bay didn't show up for the pre-trial. So, we lost that date. We've done at least one of these. Uh, we scheduled everything through January and February, which takes us to March 9th. That's a Wednesday. Mr. Maro Bay, are you available on Wednesday, March 9th?

[00:11:44]March 9th. Um, I will be >> all right. I'm going to set it for Wednesday, March 9th, 2022 at 8:30.

[00:11:56]All three cases will be set for the same time. If defendant wishes to have them joined, you have to tell us by February 25th.

[00:12:10]>> Okay.

[00:12:12]>> Mr. Purdue, have you been provided with a dash cam video of that uh incident?

[00:12:19]>> My name is Mr. Bay.

[00:12:21]>> I'm sorry, Mr. Bay.

[00:12:23]>> And I have not.

[00:12:25]>> We discussed this yesterday, your honor.

[00:12:27]And it was u the defendant and I discussed how I would like to have some direction from the court regarding giving him this video uh with a protective order that he would not disseminate it or use it for anything other than the purpose of preparing for trial.

[00:12:47]>> Yes, I would release it on those conditions. Otherwise, you'd be in contempt. But you're representing yourself and you're entitled to have so video will be provided.

[00:12:59]>> Yes, we have them here sitting on uh the staff's desk and they did confirm an address that is a proper address for the defendant to be able to mail those out.

[00:13:09]So those will probably if the mail hasn't gone out today >> today but if not tomorrow what you want in the protective order but Mr. uh they you can have these videos you can't disseminate them, share them, put >> you can have them uh to review and prepare for your defense.

[00:13:33]>> So I can't that's that's the first case.

[00:13:36]>> I can't show people that I was traveling in the videos and that >> Well, you can show it to people at your house, but you can't post it on any social media.

[00:13:45]>> If you do, you're going to be in contempt.

[00:13:47]You can show it to people.

[00:13:50]Uh you can't post it on any social media till this trial is completed >> or make any reproductions of it. Correct.

[00:14:01]>> All right. The next case 202653 that allegedly occurred on November 25th of 2020. Uh that contains a speeding charge and a driving suspended charge.

[00:14:16]What's the status of that?

[00:14:18]>> Your honor, that case has not been resolved and on base says it can't connect to the server, so I'm not sure what's going on.

[00:14:28]>> Uh John Hoffmeister, this is a Michigan State Police case.

[00:14:32]>> There were two other troopers that assisted and responded and there is a dash cam for that one >> and a driving record.

[00:14:43]>> Yes.

[00:14:45]All right. Same thing, same protective order, but you're entitled to have the evidence that the prosecutor intends to introduce against you. Uh, Mr. Bay, I'd give you a piece of advice. There are a couple of speeding cases in here. The most important speeding case which sets out the standard the prosecutor has to meet. It's called people versus ferency. I don't have the citation. It's fy.

[00:15:14]I'd suggest you may wish to take a look at that case.

[00:15:19]Uh we've got Hothmeister and two other troopers.

[00:15:22]>> Okay.

[00:15:24]>> F E R N C Y. All right. Then the last case or the most recent case is 2021 allegedly occurred January 1st 31st.

[00:15:34]that charges driving suspended and false license.

[00:15:43]And uh I believe there's also a speeding attached to that. Miss Davis, the complaining officer in that case is Jesse Raymond.

[00:15:56]>> That one might have Sergeant Steers who was in the front seat with him. if that was in the village of Centerville.

[00:16:05]And there is a dash cam for that one.

[00:16:08]>> All right. So, certified driving record dash cam.

[00:16:13]>> Um, so this court doesn't recognize the right to travel.

[00:16:18]>> Yes, it does.

[00:16:21]>> You know what the right to travel is, right? Thompson versus Smith. The right to travel.

[00:16:25]>> All right. Yes, I recognize the right to travel. I don't recognize the right to drive without a license and go 84 miles an hour in a 55 mph zone. So you have a right to travel. You don't have a right to drive is where you and I have a fundamental disagreement.

[00:16:40]>> Speeding, driving without a license, wrong plates, no plates, no registration, no tags, etc. has all been ruled as nonarrestable offenses. And I've been arrested.

[00:16:50]>> Yes.

[00:16:52]>> Cal versus Farley. This these are this is um these are these are um court case documents right here that uh that we we keep ignoring. I don't know why we keep ignoring these.

[00:17:05]>> Well, where case documents right here.

[00:17:08]>> All right.

[00:17:09]>> The right to travel was was ruled in the Supreme Court.

[00:17:11]>> Okay. I'm familiar with anyway. You didn't >> But you can't but you can't just gloss past it though. I mean because you have to >> you made a motion. We'll just accept it as this. I'll put it in order. your motion to dismiss regarding the right to travel is denied. And so that also preserves your motion. You can appeal on that issue if you are convicted. So >> I didn't file a motion.

[00:17:39]>> Well, then file a motion if you want to argue it.

[00:17:44]>> But I didn't. That's all right. Well, so now you're saying so I'll accept your oral motion.

[00:17:51]There's not a motion.

[00:17:54]>> Well, your the affidavit, whatever it is, >> yes, >> regarding the right to travel is denied.

[00:18:01]Your honor, so that the court is aware, I did speak to the defendant about this issue with discovery materials and potential exhibits yesterday via telephone, but the people intend to file a motion and lemony based on Michigan rules of evidence 403 for exclusion of uh evidence based on confusion or waste of time. Uh again, I haven't seen all of these documents that he is intending to present, but uh once I do see them, I suspect that we will be filing a motion and limiting to have them uh excluded from any discussion during trial.

[00:18:44]>> You have 21 days to file a motion and he has 21 days to respond.

[00:18:49]>> Thank you, your honor.

[00:18:50]>> And Mr. Bay, you also have 21 days to file any further motion. I know that's the affidavit I sent you. That's what it said. You have 21 days to respond to it.

[00:19:00]>> I just responded to it. I denied it. I'm advised that I got >> You have to deny it in paper. You have to send me something in writing with some more with with Samir Bay on it and you have to deny me as a national because I was traveling as a free national.

[00:19:14]>> All right, I'll put that in order. Um March 9th doesn't work. That's Judge Patterson's date. Does March 2nd? Um, honestly, I don't want to be I don't want to come back to none of these courts. I I really I would I would love for y'all to um to actually uphold the law and not try to uphold these statues against me. So, I don't really um I don't really choose to only reason why I'm even showing up is because if I don't show up, you're going to send your your your private mercenaries to come get me. And I don't have time for that.

[00:19:47]I have a family to take care of. So, um that's the only reason why I'm getting some time today.

[00:19:53]It's interesting. You want me to uphold the law, but you don't want me to behold the uphold the statutes.

[00:19:59]>> Yeah. No, >> these aren't private mercenaries.

[00:20:01]They're uh sworn deputies and employed by County of St. Joseph. Um anyway, I didn't bring these charges, Mr. Maro Bay. The sheriff's department or the individual departments filed them. The prosecutor is prosecuting them >> and you're the defendant.

[00:20:20]>> You also yourself. So, I'm going to do myself this.

[00:20:26]>> I'm going to do this for March 2nd, 2022 at 8:30. All three cases. Deborah, I would just inquire. Was there a plea offer?

[00:20:38]Your honor, after speaking with Miss the defendant yesterday, uh the people would offer that if he were to plead in each case to allowing another to violate the motor vehicle code uh and acknowledge the speeding violations, we would dismiss the remainder.

[00:20:58]>> I'm sorry. Could you repeat that?

[00:21:01]>> Sure. If you would plead to the misdemeanor of allowing another person to violate the motor vehicle code in the three open cases, we would dismiss all of the driving suspended, the registration, all of those. But you would also have to acknowledge the two speeding tickets and pay the fine for the infraction on those.

[00:21:22]>> He's posted quite a bit of bond. I think there might be bond money to apply, but let's talk about what that means, Mr. Bay.

[00:21:30]>> Okay. Uh, driving suspended is a misdemeanor. Driving suspended second is punishable by up to a year in jail.

[00:21:38]Driving suspended first is punishable by up to 93 days in jail. They both carry two points on your driving record, and they require that your license be suspended.

[00:21:50]This is an interesting plea offer from the prosecutor that kind of takes me a little bit by surprise. She's offered to dismiss all of the driving suspended charges for a plea to three charges of allowing another to violate the motor vehicle code. It's a kind of a peculiar statute.

[00:22:12]It's under the Michigan uh traffic code.

[00:22:15]It's found at 257.326.

[00:22:18]It's called allowing another to violate the motor vehicle code. It's punishable by a fine of up to $90 to up to $100 and up to 90 days in jail. This is important. It carries no points and it does not go on your driving record. It doesn't go on your Michigan driving record and it doesn't carry any points.

[00:22:43]I can't think of the last time I put somebody in jail for allowing another to violate the motor vehicle code, but uh it is punishable by up to 90 days in jail. And then the speeding charges are civil infractions punishable by a fine only. I'm going to put this in the order that that's the offer. It's a very interesting offer. It would resolve all of the cases. I guess you could plead as the other would be you either Samuel Maro Bay allowed Sammy Padu to drive or vice versa, but it wouldn't affect your Michigan driving privileges and wouldn't go on your driving record. Just got a lot of baggage on it, >> your honor.

[00:23:25]>> Yes.

[00:23:25]>> Also, the people would not object to a no contest plea in this matter.

[00:23:33]>> All right, that's interesting, too. Mr. Maro Bay.

[00:23:38]No. By pleading guilty. You admit that you're guilty.

[00:23:42]By pleading no contest, you don't admit guilt.

[00:23:49]But you allow or accept that a conviction would enter. That makes this even more interesting. You could enter a plea of no contest saying, "I don't plead guilty to this, but I will allow these convictions to enter for the purposes of the bargain uh offer. Um, did you post your bonds through a shity company?"

[00:24:15]>> Um, I believe so.

[00:24:18]>> All right. I because I I didn't know if I had cash or not. So, I'll put this in the order and I'll put a some sort of deadline in it. Let me repeat that. That she offers to dismiss everything for one count of allowing another to violate the motor vehicle code >> in each of the cases.

[00:24:36]>> In each of the cases, >> the three counts >> plus the two speeding counts. This will cost money uh unlikely to result in a jail sentence and it would resolve all the cases and it would not affect your Michigan driving privileges. You could also plead no contest saying I don't plead guilty but I allow or accept that a conviction would enter.

[00:25:09]I'm gonna put all this in a written order. I don't want to put your address out here over the internet, but over the live feed, but Miss Davis, you've got his current contact information.

[00:25:20]>> We do, sir. The address that you gave to our staff this week to mail out things.

[00:25:26]Is that still the same address?

[00:25:28]>> That is correct.

[00:25:30]>> Okay, then. Yes, we will provide that address to the court, your honor.

[00:25:33]>> Uh, I'm not going to make you make a decision on that right now. It's a very interesting plea offer. Resolves everything. Resolves your and my disagreements on the right to travel. It results in all the cases being resolved, but nothing on your driving record other than the speeding tickets.

[00:25:55]So, you can consider that. Take a look at the statute. Consult with people you consult with. I'm still concerned that you don't have legal counsel, but we've done fine today. You and I have been able to transact our business in a respectful manner, and uh that's good for all of us. So, I'm going to put this in a written order. You can consider the prosecutor's plea offer, which would cost money uh but would not put anything on your record but a couple of speeding tickets.

[00:26:27]Miss Davis, there anything else we should place on this record? Just briefly, your honor, because of the trial date moving up, uh you had requested that the defendant notify the court by the 25th of February whether or not he would agree to join. I just asked to move that up a little bit, too.

[00:26:45]>> Yeah. Move it up to February 15th.

[00:26:48]>> And the plea offer, if you could put it in the order that it's good for two weeks from today. So, it expire at 5:00 p.m. two weeks from today.

[00:26:59]>> All right.

[00:27:00]That would be December 16th, Michigan time.

[00:27:07]>> Michigan time. Sir, as far as notifying the court or our office whether you'd like to accept that offer, you can either call our office or call the court and set up a plea date. Uh but please just make sure that you make contact with us if you're going to accept.

[00:27:25]>> Okay.

[00:27:28]>> Mr. Mr. Bay. Anything else you wish to place on the record?

[00:27:32]>> Um, I don't believe so.

[00:27:35]>> All right. Consider a no contest plea to those three charges plus the speedings.

[00:27:41]You can contemplate that. It would certainly bring closure to all this and uh I'll send you a copy of the order what we've done here today in the mail and I will provide a copy of your pleadings to the prosecutor.

[00:27:55]>> Thank you. All right. Subscribe for more real courtroom moments.