‘Are NEO-NAZIS SUPREMACISTS?': Moskowitz’s explosive clash with GOP witness erupts at SPLC hearing

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[00:00:00]The The neo-Nazis are a supremacist group, right? I mean, this This does This is not a trick question, Ms. Swan. I'm I'm not trying to trip you up, and the fact that you're >> like to define a white supremacist, and when I did my research, it was white people who believed that because of their race, they were superior to other groups. But, the left redefined white supremacists so that it could include any white person in the >> Okay, Ms. Swan, Ms. Swan, that's Hold on. That's a wonderful speech and a filibuster. Dr. Swan, I can promise you there's no freaking way I'm buying your book. They are It's the That's the whole reason they exist because they believe they are supreme. You all don't seem to understand that a WHITE >> WHO'S THEY ALL? I'm not a neo-Nazi.

[00:00:40]Who's they all? I'm a regular person asking another regular person if we can agree that neo-Nazis are supremacists.

[00:00:48]Gentleman from Florida is recognized.

[00:00:51]Uh Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

[00:00:53]I want to go back really quick to uh the questioning uh by Ms. Crockett just cuz I thought it was actually an easy line of questioning, and I want to give everyone an opportunity just to clarify.

[00:01:06]Ms. Swan, that the neo-Nazis are a supremacist group, right? I know you talked about your book, but neo-Nazis are a supremacist group.

[00:01:12]>> May I define a white supremacist?

[00:01:14]Because I did a Cambridge University Press book, Okay. and [clears throat] when I did my research, I know, but Ms. Swan, you're Can I get to ask You're doing what the You're doing what the university professors did with Elise Stefanik. No, I'm Talking about, well, what's the definition of this and what's the No, I'm giving you a definition because you all don't have one. No, no, I I I The neo-Nazis are a supremacist group. They believe they're supreme, right? That's why they wanted to put people in camps that they believed were not pure.

[00:01:42]Neo-Nazis are a supremacist group, right? I mean, this This does This is not a trick question, Ms. Swan. I'm I'm not trying to trip you up, and the fact that you're >> like to define a white supremacist, and when I did my research, it was white people who believed that because of their race, they were superior to other groups. But the left redefined white supremacists so that it could include any white person in this room.

[00:02:03]>> Okay, Ms. Swan, Ms. Swan, that's Hold on. That's a wonderful speech and a filibuster.

[00:02:09]Are neo-Nazis supremacists?

[00:02:13]It depends on which ones. They are They are They are individuals.

[00:02:16]>> No, I didn't ask you I didn't ask you which ones. Are neo-Nazis Ms. Swan, listen, I'm not reading your book if you literally can't answer this question. Are neo-Nazis supremacists? They're individuals. Some are and some may be just plain old anti-Semites.

[00:02:31]No, no. Neo-Nazis are anti-Semites, okay? We're going to agree there. But they're also supremacists, Ms. Swan.

[00:02:36]Okay, if you If you are going >> no. You don't have to take my word for it. Right? Like they are It's the That's the whole reason they exist because they believe they are supreme.

[00:02:47]>> You all don't seem to understand THAT A WHITE SUPREMACIST >> I'M NOT A NEO-NAZI. Who's they all? I'm a regular person asking another regular person if we can agree that neo-Nazis are supremacists.

[00:02:58]>> Okay, I will agree with you. Okay, I didn't I don't want you to be forced into it.

[00:03:02]>> agree with you, but I suggest you all take the time and read my Cambridge University Press book. That was nominated for a prize.

[00:03:11]>> way I'm buying your book when when it took 2 minutes for you to look at me and not and and had to convince you that neo-Nazis Listen. Because I don't like the talking points of leftist >> This is not a talking point. This is 100 years of history. Watch this. I'm going to show you how easy it is. Mr. Perkins, are neo-Nazis supremacists?

[00:03:30]They are supremacists. Thank you, sir.

[00:03:32]Mr. O'Neal, yes. Okay. Dr. Swan, that wasn't a trick question for them. I wasn't trying to trip them up. I wasn't using DNC talking points.

[00:03:40]This is part of the problem. And I And I I didn't even want to do this, quite frankly, cuz I don't want I'm not interested in making this stuff political. Right? I got I got Democratic candidates in in Texas coming out yesterday and saying that Jews belong in concentration camps again.

[00:03:56]It's terrible.

[00:03:56]>> Like we're we're in real we're in real bad times.

[00:04:00]>> A- And so, if we put all this if we put these hateful conversations in our political box and we do the whataboutism, we're this is just going to continue to spread hate.

[00:04:13]>> I agree with 100%. We agree on it.

[00:04:16]>> But that's why that's why we we got to be able to at least agree to a simple set of facts that neo-Nazis are supremacists, right?

[00:04:23]Okay. We've moved on we've moved on.

[00:04:26]We're you're there. But you all use white supremacists as a broad statement.

[00:04:30]I I I I I didn't I didn't Listen, I didn't I didn't say anything other than they're supremacists. Okay.

[00:04:35]>> And they are. I apologize to you, sir.

[00:04:37]>> Okay. No, you don't have to apologize to me. I just I just want you to understand like if we can't agree on a simple set of facts, then we can't solve real problems. So, you know, Mr. Chairman, you know, this obviously was a specific topic that you had scheduled a couple weeks ago and invited these witnesses in.

[00:04:55]But I got to be honest like the last week the amount of anti-Semitic messages, voicemails, text messages I have gotten, stuff on my social media, an assassination plot, you know, a couple months ago someone serving 25 years in in jail.

[00:05:13]Um And now watching someone running for office trying to join the greatest deliberative body ever created on this planet who thinks the way forward for America is to look at 1940s Germany.

[00:05:28]Okay. My grandmother was part of the Kindertransport out of Germany. Her parents died at Auschwitz. My kids are not going to an internment camp. I can assure you.

[00:05:37]Uh a- And it's becoming so normalized.

[00:05:41]I- It is you know, we we've gone from, you know, like, "Oh, there's there's Americans who donate to elected officials, you know, that are AIPAC, and then it's, you know, okay, Netanyahu, and then it's, you know, okay, you know, maybe we shouldn't support foreign money, and then, okay, now we're going to call all these people Zionists, and now we're at concentration camps. By the way, we got the concentration camps much faster than I thought we would get, but here we are.

[00:06:07]Um and it's real scary.

[00:06:10]The people are scared.

[00:06:12]Peop- People don't want to show their Jewish stars anymore. They're moving into neighborhoods just to be around other other Jews because they're concerned. And one of the my Republican colleagues, now I know I'm over, Mr. Chairman, I'm going to wrap it up. One of my Republican colleagues asked, like, do we know why it's spreading? Hate, all sorts of hate, not just an- anti-Semitism. Why is This is why it's spreading. It's all here.

[00:06:34]It's really here.

[00:06:36]Go Go poll young kids versus seniors.

[00:06:38]It's a dramatic difference in the amount of hate young kids have versus seniors.

[00:06:44]This is the difference. You're seeing it in voting patterns. You're seeing it in belief systems. We've let foreign governments and bots just totally weaponize this Getting No No countries can beat us militarily. We're stronger than everyone combined, but they have They are guiding us, fighting amongst ourselves, dividing us, at each other's throats. So, if you you ask me why things are so bad, I mean, just just spend a couple minutes. Go to my Twitter.

[00:07:12]Go look at some happy things, like a happy Veterans Day or happy Memorial Day that I posted. Look at the hate I get.

[00:07:20]You know, it is out of control. So, Mr. Chairman, I appreciate you doing this hearing in general, but hate in hate, real hate, is spreading in this country in ways that my grandparents They're gone. But I I can't imagine if they were alive to see what was going on here. And I yield back. Thank you for the extra time, Mr. Chairman. Well, uh I appreciate what the gentleman said and one of the things I have personally made a commitment to do is keep it out of keep it out of our part of the party I belong to and I know you are doing unbelievable amount of work trying to keep it out of your party. The once great party of FDR and JFK is we're seeing things there that are just not healthy for this great nation and I'm committed to doing everything I can to make sure it doesn't get involved in the Republican Party and I appreciate your words cuz it is it is scary.