Star Wars can do better than "The Mandalorian and Grogu"

Hinzugefügt: 2026-05-31

[00:00:04]This worked last time. Come on, man.

[00:00:06]We've only got an hour before this movie starts. We got to still go through Burger King and get a commemorative cup.

[00:00:11]I mean, this is the first Star Wars movie in 7 years. Do you want to be late? I don't want to be late.

[00:00:14]>> Uh, no. But the Razer Crest, it's not working. It was yesterday. It's like it won't move forward. I mean, it's stuck in reverse.

[00:00:20]>> Exactly. A lot of that going around lately.

[00:00:22]>> Didn't have this problem with the Onyx sender. The T6 had its problems, but at least it'll fly.

[00:00:26]>> We could take the Falcon.

[00:00:28]>> Yeah, right. That thing can't go anywhere near this movie.

[00:00:31]>> I guess that wasn't the smoothest ride last time anyway.

[00:00:34]>> I preferred the time before that.

[00:00:36]>> Okay.

[00:00:41]>> You know, this thing did blow up in season 2. Do you think that's the problem?

[00:00:44]>> I was told not to think about it.

[00:00:46]>> H Maybe it's this helmet. You know, can you even >> Does it look like we have time for a swim? Seth, >> you had it off yesterday. That was kind of a nice moment.

[00:00:55]>> Okay. Well, I literally can't afford to take it off right now.

[00:00:58]>> Look. Forget it. Okay, >> this way. We're going have to settle for drive-thru.

[00:01:02]>> Hey, I think I figured it out.

[00:01:05]>> That'll do it.

[00:01:08]>> Strap in. Oh, man. I hope this works.

[00:01:11]>> Me, too, buddy. Me, too.

[00:01:24]Hey, it's new Star Wars movie day. And remember, no matter what, we're having fun.

[00:01:31]>> Okay, but what if it's fun?

[00:02:03]So, what are your thoughts going into this movie?

[00:02:05]>> I'll be honest.

[00:02:07]I'm a little apprehensive if I'm going to be uh if I'm going to be 100%. We're going to keep it 100.

[00:02:13]>> You keep it a hundo.

[00:02:15]>> Yeah. Cuz I mean, this is the first Star Wars movie in 7 years and it thing just kind of came out of nowhere.

[00:02:21]>> Yeah. just announced it on a random Tuesday.

[00:02:23]>> Yes.

[00:02:23]>> Then then we kind of waited for the marketing till like the last minute. But that might have been the right choice given, you know, the attention span of the internet. It's hard to say.

[00:02:30]>> It is really.

[00:02:31]>> It's such a different world than the last time a Star Wars movie came out.

[00:02:35]>> Oh, it very much so. I feel like they >> they're playing it real safe cuz they got to win back some hearts.

[00:02:41]>> Yes.

[00:02:41]>> So, >> Baby Yoda gets the gets the uh the casual demographic.

[00:02:46]>> I was going to say butts and seats. And that's really at the end of the day, it is a business. I hate to say that. Don't get me wrong. I love the art. We're there for the art, but still.

[00:02:55]>> This definitely feels more business than art this time.

[00:02:58]>> Does feel a little bit like that.

[00:02:59]>> And I'll be honest, it's hard not to be cynical going in.

[00:03:01]>> Yes.

[00:03:01]>> Like I want it to be fun. I'm really hoping it's that season one, >> you know, small scale adventure where we're having a really good time and we're going to walk out of the theater being like, >> you know, real jazz.

[00:03:10]>> Maybe a few like seeds of that like, oh, that's kind of cool to the video cuz I'm not expecting Luke's not showing up or something. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't season two.

[00:03:21]>> Season one. I could be okay with that.

[00:03:22]>> It's just a small scale adventure. And if we walked out be like, "Hey, this was a solid seven out of 10."

[00:03:26]>> Yeah, >> that's okay. You know, cuz I think the solo is a solid seven out of 10. But it's also like a commercial for things that never came out. You know, Dark Ms at the end.

[00:03:34]>> That is true.

[00:03:35]>> Uh now Shadow Lord is sort of building up to that in some ways. But >> yeah, I'm kind of in a place where I'm excited. It's nice that it in a lot of ways I feel like they're >> trying to capture that magic from like the prequel days.

[00:03:49]>> Yeah.

[00:03:49]>> I mean, >> you know, a little bit, right? They're trying to capture that sauce.

[00:03:56]>> Yeah.

[00:03:57]>> And it's working on me a little bit. I'm like, stop it. Stop it. I can see your grill.

[00:04:02]>> How is it? Is it good?

[00:04:05]>> I haven't had Burger King in so long, but it is a bad I can't lie. you uh you're uh you're not taking McDonald's CEO bites.

[00:04:13]>> Yeah.

[00:04:13]>> No.

[00:04:14]>> Yeah.

[00:04:14]>> This may be product, but it might be food, too. I don't know. It's like >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[00:04:19]>> By golly, it's What about you?

[00:04:21]>> What? My nuggets were okay.

[00:04:23]>> Yeah.

[00:04:23]>> Yeah. It's been a while since I've had Burger K.

[00:04:26]>> Or you place Burger King nuggets on the exterior or like on on materials.

[00:04:30]>> They're not as Well, maybe for another Maybe that's uh that's >> a conversation for another time. That's a conversation for another time, but they're not asked for that. Yeah.

[00:04:39]>> Well, Seth, we are about to embark to the IMAX theater. We're going to watch this on 70 mm.

[00:04:45]>> That's really exciting.

[00:04:46]>> Yes.

[00:04:47]>> And it's going to be the first Star Wars movie we've seen together since we started the show. That's really exciting. And the first Star Wars movie in seven years. And we both aren't feeling as jazzed as maybe we have in the past. God, Rise of Skywalker. I was like, I was amped.

[00:05:01]>> Yes.

[00:05:01]>> I had to remind myself earlier this week. I was like, "Oh, shoot. That's on Thursday."

[00:05:04]>> Yeah.

[00:05:05]>> Yeah. It's a weird place to be in. So, even if I'm going in apprehensive and I'm I'm excited that maybe we're going to get a really solid, fun adventure, I just can't get a lot of this out of my head.

[00:05:17]>> Yeah. Or off your head for that matter.

[00:05:20]>> Fair point.

[00:05:21]>> Yeah.

[00:05:21]>> Seth, let's make our way to the theater.

[00:05:24]This is a delay.

[00:05:43]Seth, there's a new Star Wars movie in theaters right now.

[00:05:48]>> That there is, Connor, that there is.

[00:05:51]>> It's exciting, right? It's Star Wars.

[00:05:54]>> It's something >> on the big screen.

[00:05:55]>> On the big screen.

[00:05:56]>> It's supposed to be awesome.

[00:05:59]>> It is supposed to be awesome.

[00:06:02]Paradoxically, we have nothing to discuss, yet so much to discuss when it comes to The Mandalorian and Grou, the first Star Wars theatrical release to hit theaters in seven years.

[00:06:16]>> Yep.

[00:06:17]>> Right. Yep. Yep. Yep.

[00:06:19]>> Yep. This is going to be an interesting review because I think there's a lot more to talk about just I think there's a lot more to talk about other than just the film and what happens or doesn't happen in the movie.

[00:06:31]>> Mhm.

[00:06:32]>> I think there's a lot to discuss about the leadup to this movie about how we got here in the first place, the kind of odd marketing cycle and how it all >> was giving us hints all along the way before we actually get into that breakdown. But in typical Beyond the Dune Sea fashion, I don't want to leave the folks at home on the hook too long.

[00:06:51]Let's dip our toes in the swamp of now Huta >> with a one minute review.

[00:06:57]>> So, this film has been a tough nut to crack, but I think I've got it. So, please bear with me on this journey cuz this might get a little crazy. Connor, now I know you haven't seen a lot of anime, but have you ever watched an OVA special or a anime movie that accompanies a series?

[00:07:18]>> I have no idea what that is.

[00:07:20]>> Okay, how about this? Bear with me.

[00:07:22]You've watched Yu-Gi-Oh, right? Okay.

[00:07:24]Pyramid of Light. Have you seen that movie?

[00:07:27]>> Did I see I got the little gold packs hunting down for the blue-eyed shining dragon? Of course, I've seen Py Pyramid of Light.

[00:07:33]>> Okay. All right. So be paying thinking about Pyramid of Light while I'm reading the rest of this. Okay.

[00:07:38]>> Okay. The neurons are firing and making the connections.

[00:07:41]>> Okay. That is a contained story for that movie, but it cannot do anything more than reference the main series. It definitely cannot change the status quo because that would make it essential viewing and that's the series job.

[00:07:57]>> Okay. Thus, these movies and specials have to essentially exist outside of the current cannon or timeline. They literally cannot cover any new concepts.

[00:08:10]And in my opinion, The Mandalorian and Grou is just that. This movie tries to tackle concepts like father-son relationships and self-sacrifice, but I've seen those very concepts done better in the series. Now, I know what you're thinking, Seth. You can flush out all that stuff much better in a series.

[00:08:32]But here's the thing. The movie is 2 and 1/2 hours long and says nothing that hasn't already been said or done better in the series. Ultimately, I think this was just a vehicle to introduce these characters to a wider audience.

[00:08:48]>> Okay. It's an interesting comparison to the Pyramid of Light. I kind I I get you. I feel you. That does feel very similar >> because again, Yugi gets cards, but then the card gets destroyed. He can't ever use it again in his deck. That that's the whole thing. It's a very self-contained idea.

[00:09:02]>> Yeah.

[00:09:03]>> However, Counterpoint, >> okay.

[00:09:04]>> At least in Yu-Gi-Oh! Pyramid of Light, >> it has a story kind of. It like kind of feels like a movie and >> feels like a big event.

[00:09:13]>> Uh yeah, it Yeah, sure it does. It felt like it it did kind of feel like it was making the jump to the big screen. I'm not saying Pyramid of Light is some, you know, it's not Citizen Cane or anything, but It's no Dark Sided Dimensions.

[00:09:24]>> True. Dark Side, man. If we ever get down to that, that'd be awesome. That is a film, my friend. Right.

[00:09:30]>> It's one of my favorites from 2016.

[00:09:33]>> It really is.

[00:09:33]>> Folks at home are be like, "How do they always find a way to talk about Yu-Gi-Oh in this? What the heck?"

[00:09:40]>> So, that kind of teased me up for my one minute review. As you might have gathered, neither of us were the biggest fans of this movie. And you know, I went into The Mandalorian and Grou with I thought a a healthy amount of skepticism. Same with Maul Shadow Lord actually, but for different reasons.

[00:09:56]Walked away from Maul Shadow Lord, really enjoying it. This movie, not so much. I expected a safe, low stakes adventure that would stay mostly detached from Mando and Grou's previous journey. Kind of like what you were just describing there. I expected the emotional climax of The Mandalorian season 2, including the loss of the Razer Crest to be mostly ignored, just like in season 3. Uh, but I had hoped it would build Den's relationship with Grou, while also taking them both in interesting directions, all within that fun classic Manda formula we loved. And in some ways, those expectations, both good and bad, were very much met. But in far more ways, this movie underdelivered in ways that genuinely shocked me. If I had to describe this movie in one word, it wouldn't be fun. As I've heard a lot of folks online say, it would be nothing. The film feels like a stunts and VFX demo. A string of action scenes and puppeteer showcases held together by a script that barely remembers it's even supposed to be a movie. Some scenes repeat the same information over and over, like Roder reminding us every single time he appears on screen that he's the son of Jabba the Hut and he doesn't want to live in the shadow of his father, Jabba the Hut, in case you forgot the first six times. While other scenes feel completely missing, like when Mando refuses to talk to the Huts after being gifted the Razer Crest as an advance, he then in the same scenes walks directly to the cockpit, flies without a single cut to now Huta to talk to the Huts. When did he change his mind?

[00:11:30]The dialogue in this film, I hate to say it, is some of the worst we've ever seen in a Star Wars movie. And I'm torn whether to blame the script or the performances that felt like each actor was trying not to fall asleep while delivering their lines. From the moment this film was announced in that random Tuesday afternoon on starwars.com, something has just felt off about it.

[00:11:49]And I was hoping that as time went on and as we started to get more information that, you know, maybe this team would cook after all. And I was really holding on to that up until I sat there in that IMAX.

[00:12:01]But unfortunately, going to use uh last year's uh word of the year from Miriam Webster here. If you haven't heard that, uh it's slop.

[00:12:10]Corporate slop is what I feel this movie really boils down to. A product engineered to get you to Burger King for the collab or to Walmart for a Grou Rubik's Cube. And look, merchandising has always been a part of Star Wars. In fact, it's some of the most fun parts about Star Wars. But back then, that passion extended to the screen. The toys and tie-ins worked because they were attached to something that genuinely felt like a work of art, an event.

[00:12:42]The Mandalorian Grou feels like a corporate appropriation of that very magic. A film so narratively hollow that it honestly is appalling considering the legacy it's trying to graft itself onto.

[00:12:54]And really, the crazy thing about this all is there's nothing offensive here.

[00:12:58]You know, it doesn't destroy the lore.

[00:13:00]It doesn't really assassinate any beloved characters. And it doesn't ruin massive plot threads, but only because the movie barely tries to do anything at all. It's just nothing. And for the first time ever, when I sat in that theater for a new Star Wars movie on opening night, I found myself checking the time, wondering when it would be over, only to find out there was an hour left in the movie.

[00:13:24]>> There was that guy sitting next to me.

[00:13:26]>> Yeah, I know. There was a guy sitting next to us during the theater.

[00:13:29]>> Kept checking his phone.

[00:13:31]>> Yeah. And I kept I kept just going, hm, there's an hour left of this.

[00:13:34]>> I know.

[00:13:35]>> There's 25 minutes left of this, right?

[00:13:38]>> What's going on? Why haven't we gotten anything that I What's happening?

[00:13:44]>> I know. I know. This has been such a weird experience.

[00:13:48]>> Like I said, we both went in with a lot of skepticism, but even with the skepticism, I thought it would still be a good movie. I just thought like, oh man, I loved what they did with Mando in seasons one and two. I've talked about it ad nauseium here on the channel and they undid it and Book of Boba Fett in season 3 and now we're getting into this movie >> uh which I'm sure will continue. He's get got his Razer Crest back. He's got the end of Pulse Rifle back.

[00:14:07]>> Mhm. But I still expected the movie to be good.

[00:14:10]>> Yeah. I I you know I was huge behind like, oh, they're hiding something.

[00:14:17]We're only seeing parts of the uh we're only seeing the first third of it.

[00:14:21]>> Yeah, >> I was wrong. No, they showed us the whole movie.

[00:14:24]>> Show the whole movie in the trailers and then they kept pushing out clips.

[00:14:28]>> A pretty The first one they put out of Zeb and Mando capturing Coin. That's a major plot point.

[00:14:34]>> Huge plot point. And I wasn't even trying to watch that, but then I go, "Wait, I've seen that bald head in that uh that has to be him." And I'm like, >> "Oh, that ruins that like that totally spoils the whole >> That's a little twist in the movie that that's the guy Janu Lord Janu Colonel Coin, whatever." Major Coin, whatever his name is.

[00:14:52]>> Mr. Coin.

[00:14:52]>> By the way, do you know that that's the actor's actual name, too? Isn't that weird?

[00:14:55]>> Coin or Janu?

[00:14:57]>> It's Coin.

[00:14:57]>> Oh, okay.

[00:14:58]>> Yeah.

[00:14:59]>> Huh.

[00:14:59]>> Just interesting. I don't know.

[00:15:00]>> It is.

[00:15:01]>> But it's just been a weird experience.

[00:15:02]And then you have, you know, the the red carpet premiere happens and you're getting some pretty decent reviews out there. If people are saying what we kind of thought the movie was going to be, this is going to be a fun time. Yeah.

[00:15:11]>> You know, >> I I truly I don't know if we're alone in this cuz even we haven't got to the end of the movie and I was like, I wonder if Seth feels the same way.

[00:15:18]>> Yeah. No, I I was scared when we were walking out cuz like, you know, we we said hi to a couple people or whatever.

[00:15:24]There was lots of cosplayers and stuff like that and we didn't really say anything until we got out to the parking lot and you were just kind of like, "How'd you feel?" And I was like, "Wasn't my favorite thing." And you're like, "Good."

[00:15:36]I'm like, "Man, I wasn't alone."

[00:15:37]>> Yeah.

[00:15:38]>> Yeah. No, I felt the same. And then we started to get more audience reactions after that. And it feels like people are in two camps. Either they really liked this or they really didn't. And that's been very fascinating because it's not divisive in the same way that The Last Jedi is divisive. It's almost the script is flipped.

[00:15:53]>> Yeah.

[00:15:54]>> This is something we're going to touch on in more detail towards the end of the video because I do think it's an important conversation, but Last Jedi, you had a huge issue with negativity. If you liked that movie, you had a whole hoorde of people telling you you were wrong, why you were wrong, how this movie ruined their childhood, all that stuff. Yeah. Here, it's almost flipped.

[00:16:09]It's like you have a bunch of people who are so positive on this movie, and if you didn't like it, you have all those folks coming at you saying like, "You hate fun. What'd you expect? This and this and this."

[00:16:17]>> They're becoming the very things they swore to destroy.

[00:16:20]>> Yeah. And so, it's very interesting.

[00:16:21]Like, don't get me wrong, like I said in my review, my one minute review there, I don't think this movie is offensive in any way. It doesn't do anything that makes me mad other than I wish it was better, you know, but it's not like it took beloved characters that I loved and like threw them under the button. Like none of that.

[00:16:36]>> So, it's just a very weird >> It's been a very weird experience these past few days just being a fan and kind of in the ecosystem and kind of watching how other people are reacting cuz I've talked to some folks who are not plugged in. Some people are like, "Yeah, it's okay. Yeah, I liked it." Other people, "No, I hated this."

[00:16:50]>> Yeah, it I did not like this at all. you know, and that's not what you want when a new Star Wars movie hits the big screen, right?

[00:16:57]>> No, it's not. I I don't think it's fun to rag on things.

[00:17:02]>> Yeah. Not something I enjoy doing. In fact, I've been I I hate to say it. I've been kind of dreading this conversation in some ways because I know I'm going to have a lot of negative things to say.

[00:17:12]But I do think it's important that we be honest and critique when we have critiques. It's true. And to tie it back, you know, to shadow Lord, >> we went in with a for different reasons, but skepticism about that. Walked away loving that.

[00:17:24]>> Yeah.

[00:17:24]>> So, it's not a situation where we're like, it no, it's just we want to hate it or anything like that. No, of course not. I wanted to love this.

[00:17:31]>> Quick, can can we take a quick uh >> offramp? Could we offramp for a second?

[00:17:36]Is that the Dunzy way?

[00:17:37]>> Let's hear it.

[00:17:38]>> Okay. So, we had a thought experiment when we did Maul Shadow Lord, you know, top five moment. Okay.

[00:17:43]>> Oh, okay.

[00:17:44]>> Remember? And then we were like, "Oh, does anything in Maul Shadow Lord could it make Maul's top five moment?" Okay.

[00:17:50]>> Yeah.

[00:17:50]>> In this movie, can you honestly say would there be a top five moment?

[00:17:55]>> Not at all. I don't even know there's a top 10 moment. Yeah.

[00:17:57]>> To be honest with you, the only thing >> comparing it to the series or The Book of Boba Fett.

[00:18:01]>> Yeah. Don't get me wrong. Well, there are things >> cuz we just ranked every episode.

[00:18:04]>> Yeah. Just did that. And if I had to rank this movie amongst them, I >> it wouldn't be the bottom probably.

[00:18:09]>> It's the lower half though. Yeah, it's lower half for sure because there there are things >> I did like about it and we'll get into that and I because I want to give the props where it needs to go because there are definitely >> cool things that are happening in this movie. But as a complete product, as a complete story, no, it's it's bottom and I don't even think there's a moment in the movie that I'd be like, >> you know, if I really had to squeeze something out of that, the the John Wick fight in the beginning is pretty >> opening sequence is cool, but then when they get out to the AT-ATs, I don't know. But that opening scene is good.

[00:18:41]>> Yeah.

[00:18:41]>> Yeah. But then I got some issues when we get get out to the AT80s and which we'll get into that.

[00:18:46]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:18:47]>> So, let's uh let's get back on the highway here before we dive super deep into the movie itself. I do want to just revisit how we got here because I think that's important when like I made a pretty bold claim there. We both I think both made a pretty bold claim. Corporate slop.

[00:19:02]>> Yeah.

[00:19:02]>> It's pretty harsh. It's a pretty harsh critique of of a of a new Star Wars property. And you know what? I don't think I would call any Star Wars property under Disney even that's come out corpo slop.

[00:19:14]>> Yeah, >> I had a lot of issues with the acolyte.

[00:19:16]At least it took some swings.

[00:19:17]>> Yeah, >> at least it did something. You know, >> I didn't care for a lot of that, but that's okay. You know, some things I'm going to like, some things I'm not. This is >> at least they got to shoot their shot.

[00:19:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. And this is really the first thing I've watched. And I'm like, "Wow, I feel like I'm in the boardroom meeting hearing Bob Iger tell John Favro," hey, Disney Plus isn't making money. Toy sales are are plummeting. Get Baby Yoda on the on the big screen. You got two years. I really feel like that's what happened.

[00:19:44]>> It It felt like, yo, dude, do you have any scripts laying on the ground? Can you hobble them together into a two and a half hour movie?

[00:19:51]>> Yeah.

[00:19:52]>> It we were just missing like the four episodes that had cameos between this story. Yeah. the words, you know, the episode where he has to go back and talk to Peloto or the episode that he has to go check in with Keradoon and Grief Cara that like Yeah.

[00:20:05]>> But even then, like even if this was a full season of the show, >> Yeah.

[00:20:09]>> I still don't think it's very good because at least in season 3, I don't like a lot about season 3, but it's consequential.

[00:20:14]>> Yeah. And I want to preface this pretty like up here at the top about uh I hear a lot of folks online talking about it was always just going to be this low stakes thing and it doesn't need to be galactic level uh uh uh stakes and that's fine. That's fine. I want to make a comparison of this movie to Skeleton Crew.

[00:20:32]>> I think Skeleton Crew is what I hear a lot of people are actually claiming this movie is that low stakes. It's you know it doesn't it doesn't tie it to anything. It didn't have any cameos any of that stuff. And that's okay, right?

[00:20:45]That's not what this movie is, I don't think.

[00:20:47]>> That's what Skeleton Crew is. And it does it very well. We were, but it's a very self-contained, small story. And it's awesome. It's got a ton of heart.

[00:20:53]The performances are great. The direction is fantastic. The script is fantastic.

[00:20:58]>> I would want if that's what this movie is, >> I'd be singing nothing but praises this whole video, but it's not that.

[00:21:04]>> Mhm.

[00:21:04]>> And so, this movie has just felt like a sacrificial lamb in my opinion.

[00:21:09]>> They want Star Wars to return to the big screen.

[00:21:11]uh they need to get people back in the groove. Let's do it with Mando. People know Mando. But then there's also some just odd decisions like you said with the whole connecting it to the what you call that the anime?

[00:21:22]>> Uh so anime movie or OVA special.

[00:21:25]>> Okay. Yeah.

[00:21:26]>> It's weird to do it that way because um then it can't connect. Like you just told me before we started recording something you read about John Favro. He was asked why Ahsoka and Thron were in the Mandalorian and he wanted to film a movie that didn't depend on Disney Plus continuity.

[00:21:42]>> Yeah.

[00:21:42]>> Yeah. Instead of making it a crossover or event, he wanted their big uh screen debut to be kind of just standalone.

[00:21:49]>> Yeah. That's just such an odd choice to me when there's three seasons of about those characters like >> and they even cameo in other uh other people's shows.

[00:21:58]>> So if like Sean Levy said that like, "Hey, why doesn't Starf Fighter connect anything?" thing and he was like, "Well, I didn't want people to be relying on this whole Star Wars backlog." I'd be like, "We're I get you."

[00:22:07]>> But these characters are established.

[00:22:10]It's so strange.

[00:22:11]>> Mhm.

[00:22:11]>> Uh I don't agree with that at all.

[00:22:14]>> I mean, I get that like they want as many people possible to come to the movie, >> but at the same time, isn't that also kind of like a slap to the face to all the people that watched the show?

[00:22:26]>> It's I don't know. I just I'm so beside myself with some of the decision-m here on how they got to this point where like this was this was the big return to the screen >> and it doesn't feel like art at all. It just feels like like you said, let's just let's get as many people in the door as possible.

[00:22:40]>> Yeah.

[00:22:41]>> It's lame. That's not what Star Wars ever was to me. Like you can you can har you can lob as many critiques of George Lucas as you want about his movies, but he leveraged market marketing as a way to make his movies.

[00:22:54]>> Yeah.

[00:22:54]>> Not the other way around. He wasn't using his movies as marketing. And like that was that was huge with the way he did things. He didn't make things for mass appeal, for critical. He made, as he famously says all the time, movies for 12-year-olds. He had a good time doing it. And he had a he had a clear vision in mind.

[00:23:11]>> It's true. Well, the other thing, too, is he made movies he wanted to make.

[00:23:13]>> Yeah.

[00:23:14]>> Yeah. Talked about trade routes and stuff at a kids movie.

[00:23:17]>> Yeah.

[00:23:18]>> But, you know, >> and again, critique that all you want, but at least at least there was some soul there.

[00:23:23]>> Yeah. Everything I keep hearing about this movie and then when watching it and seeing it, it's just like, wow, >> there's no heart. It just feels like a mask. It feels like an empty helmet.

[00:23:31]Yeah.

[00:23:32]>> At the end of the day, you're trying to recapture this magic >> and it's just not happening.

[00:23:36]>> Yeah.

[00:23:36]>> So, that's what brought us here. Um, I think let's just get into this actual movie, talk about some things we liked and the the whole host of things that we didn't.

[00:23:46]>> Yeah.

[00:23:53]I want to be fair to the movie. I think we should start >> just some things we've liked. Okay.

[00:23:57]Because that's important. I do think some people brought their agame. Yeah.

[00:24:01]>> Including >> Brendan Wayne and Latif Crowder.

[00:24:04]>> Yes.

[00:24:05]>> And absolute round of applause to John Favro and the filmmaking team for putting them in the opening credits and in top billing of the cast list. I don't think I've ever seen that in a movie.

[00:24:17]>> A stunt performer and a suit performer right up there. Mhm.

[00:24:19]>> Maybe David Prrowse is is an example.

[00:24:22]I'd have to go look.

[00:24:22]>> Oh, I think he is there that it says like and David Prrowse.

[00:24:25]>> Yeah, but even still having Latif there.

[00:24:27]>> Yeah, >> that's really cool. That was that was a genuine heartwarming moment for me during that opening credit sequence. I was like, "Wow, good for them." I'm really glad that they did that.

[00:24:36]>> I thought for the most part Ludvig was cooking, >> dude.

[00:24:40]>> Yeah, >> that Lwig was crushing it this whole time. doing some interesting experimental stuff like some choir action. The >> I thought it was interesting how he was pulling in sound effects from the movie.

[00:24:52]You hear like >> or you hear an alarm and that like that's in the soundtrack.

[00:24:57]>> Yeah, >> it's cool.

[00:24:58]>> It was really slick. It might be >> that'd be up there in some of my favorite Star Wars soundtracks.

[00:25:03]>> Yeah, >> I really like the space Chicago theme. I don't remember what that's called. Like Sakari Shakari something Shakira. I don't know. Something like that.

[00:25:10]>> That's a bop. I really liked that. The like EDM. I usually don't like that in Star Wars.

[00:25:15]>> Mhm.

[00:25:15]>> I dug it. Although, I will say as a small I know we're not critiquing yet, but >> at the end of the movie when he's like gearing up, they're going to go, you know, go to the the Hut's house in the in the tree or whatever. He starts pulling that again that like EDM.

[00:25:31]>> Yeah.

[00:25:32]>> I was like, I don't know. I don't know that it fits here.

[00:25:34]>> She probably just played the theme >> something, you know, didn't work for me as much, but otherwise the tracks were cooking. I completely agree. Next thing I liked in line with Brendan and Latif, the stunts in the whole movie, really good. I was There were moments I was watching. I'm like, how are you moving in that that way? That's crazy.

[00:25:52]>> Yeah.

[00:25:52]>> In our little uh for Tearless Madness, I had to put on a Stormtrooper uh uh some Stormtrooper gear. Granted, it was not really meant to be worn. It was meant to be put on a mannequin, but even still, I'm like, >> you couldn't move around.

[00:26:04]>> How How do people do this?

[00:26:06]>> Yeah. And then also with filming uh our uh our blasters tier list, getting Kyle in and out of the Boba Fett armor. Yeah.

[00:26:14]Was insane because it took all three of us to get him into the suit.

[00:26:17]>> So I can't imagine what that's like for them to be in that day after day to be like, you know, highkicking guys and like they're not just, you know, sitting there going pew pew pew. I mean, there is a lot going on with that performance.

[00:26:31]>> Yeah. The magic of the Mandalorian, a lot of it belongs to Brendan Wayne and Latif Crowder 100%. Like it was funny putting together the set.

[00:26:39]>> Uh we joked during Maul Shadow Lord like we don't have like any Darth Maul merch.

[00:26:43]>> Yeah.

[00:26:43]>> I have a ton of Mando stuff. Yeah.

[00:26:46]>> Like I didn't >> other than this poster I didn't buy anything for the set. I just had all this stuff >> and it is really because he cuts such a silhouette and he moves in such a particular way. Yeah.

[00:26:56]>> And that is all belongs to those two guys. Uh, I got the the privilege to talk to Brendan Wayne last year, hearing him talk about um the artistry that just goes into being a suit performer and creating the swagger that is Mando. Like there was a video that they put out um just last week of Pedro Pascal at Disneyland. Uh he was in the Mando suit and it's crazy how just you can tell >> who's in the suit and who's not in the suit.

[00:27:20]>> That's not Mando even though it's Pedro, right? like uh he moves with a little bit more like because Patrick's got a little bit of flamboyance to the way he moves, you know, >> and he was like leaning up against this thing and I'm like no, I could tell right away.

[00:27:33]>> Yeah, >> that is not Mando.

[00:27:35]>> Brandon Wayne has an interesting way of standing like he kind of stands off set almost like almost like he's ready to draw his weapon all the time maybe. I'm not really sure what exactly it is, but he kind of is standing a little bit like kind of crooked almost. It's interesting.

[00:27:48]>> Yeah. No, he's he's got it down got it down to a science and it's amazing. It it's a it's almost a thankless job because if he does it right, you shouldn't notice him.

[00:27:57]>> Yep.

[00:27:57]>> And he he does it amazingly like with Latif as well. And the fact that they like collaborate and are able to make Mando feel cohesive.

[00:28:04]>> Yeah.

[00:28:04]>> Is incredible. It does feel kind of like Darth Vader.

[00:28:06]>> Mhm.

[00:28:07]>> Darth Vader moves a certain way, >> you know, and that's all belongs to David Prow and he deserves all the recognition for that as well. That's another thing I liked. How about you bouncing it back? I think that this movie will propel Mando and Grou into the whole uh you know how we've joked around where like if C-3PO and R2-D2 just busted through that door. It's like we're in Star Wars now. They're now going to have that like I think that there's Yeah. that there's like very few uh characters that it's like and it especially helps that they don't have faces R2 but I mean he's not a human face.

[00:28:42]>> Exactly. It's like 3PO, R2, Chewbacca, Darth Vader, Mando, and Grou. I think that this movie is going to help propel them into that idea.

[00:28:50]>> I would agree with that. They have a silhouette kind of like 3PO and R2. You see their silhouette together, you know who they are. Yeah, I agree with that 100%.

[00:28:57]>> VFX for the most part, >> really good in this movie. Other than that last third, it was really weird. I thought the first >> third act was ugly.

[00:29:04]>> It's very ugly.

[00:29:05]>> Very ugly.

[00:29:06]>> But the first two acts >> Mhm.

[00:29:08]>> really nice looking. I thought CGI uh have some critiques on some characters I don't think looked as good, but for the most part we were really cooking in the visual department.

[00:29:16]>> Yeah, I really liked that. Uh some of the X-Wing pilots are past directors and past characters that have shown up in the series. It was nice that they got their flowers.

[00:29:28]>> Yeah. Got a little bit.

[00:29:29]>> What I felt like this whole movie was was giving flowers to these uh these characters that have been on Disney Plus where it's like, "You done good, kid.

[00:29:36]Now you get to you get to be on the beach.

[00:29:38]>> You're gonna be in a Star Wars movie.

[00:29:40]>> Now you're gonna get to be in the Star Wars.

[00:29:42]>> How about the fact that this movie is mostly aliens?

[00:29:45]>> That's nice.

[00:29:46]>> It felt like Star Wars almost the entire way through. Like yeah, we're have aliens left and right, practical aliens, some CGI aliens, some it >> pretty pretty impressed by that. Like that there was just so many. And then with that >> the stop motion and puppetry, Phil Tippet coming out to play.

[00:30:01]>> Yeah.

[00:30:01]>> And that droids at the end. I was about to say the fact that Mando was fighting those droids and it looks so seamless.

[00:30:07]>> Mhm. That was cool.

[00:30:08]>> Yeah, >> that was cool.

[00:30:09]>> Really, really cool.

[00:30:10]>> I like the design of all those mercenary droids. That whole like weird little faction that I wish that they would have talked more about, but like just the fact that like out of nowhere, oh, that B1 has a K2SO head on it. That's wild.

[00:30:22]Why does that B2 have a cape? That's cool. Okay.

[00:30:25]>> You know, you say that. That was one of the moments in the movie where I was like, this really feels like telling a story in the Star Wars universe, if that makes sense. Mhm.

[00:30:33]>> Like we're not relying on cameos and all that other stuff. We're just tell we have the tools. Let's use the tools.

[00:30:38]>> Yeah.

[00:30:38]>> And the the world building and the environmental storytelling of that was really interesting. They just took a bunch of decommissioned separatist destroys and they made their own little army out of it. Like I like that about Star Wars movies. I want to be able to kind of craft my craft the cannon that they not they're not telling me based on just >> just the crumbs that they leave us.

[00:30:56]Yeah. And I I agree with that.

[00:30:58]>> Last thing for me uh was the the dog fight with the Razer Crest. I thought was incredible. Maybe my favorite scene in the movie.

[00:31:03]>> Oh yeah. Okay. At the very beginning.

[00:31:05]>> Yeah. I I really liked that.

[00:31:06]>> Mhm. I did think it was neat to see the N1 and the Borgs. So that's a little bit of like at his house that that's kind of neat to have a little bit of continuity, a little of a head uh tip of the cap, if you will, to the >> tip of the helmet, if you will.

[00:31:21]>> Tip or or the cowboy hat, whatever you want to say. Yes.

[00:31:24]>> Ambo shield.

[00:31:25]>> Yes. Trapper wolf's hat. Yeah. That uh the djeric. the creature flipping the other creature just like R2's move to Chewbacca.

[00:31:35]It was nice. It was nice. Nice little shout out to Star Wars. Yeah.

[00:31:39]>> Yeah. Where it's like, "Hey, I've seen that before."

[00:31:44]>> Yeah.

[00:31:44]>> Yeah.

[00:31:52]>> We kind of broke this up into five acts.

[00:31:54]Yeah. We have the intro. We have space Chicago. We have chilling at home.

[00:31:57]Grou's rescue. Den poisoned. And then uh now >> the final fight.

[00:32:02]>> The final fight.

[00:32:03]>> Yeah.

[00:32:03]>> Let's start off with this intro.

[00:32:04]>> Yeah.

[00:32:05]>> There were some red flags right away for me.

[00:32:07]>> Mhm.

[00:32:08]>> Set the scene for you. We get into this uh we got to go to a very special theater. It's a 70 millimeter theater.

[00:32:13]There's only a few of those in the country. There's like 19 in the country.

[00:32:15]We're very fortunate. We got to go to that. That was really cool. And uh so we're sitting in this really nice theater. We walked in. There's a bunch of cosplayers.

[00:32:22]>> Yeah. The 50irst were there. Yeah, we chatted with some folks, you know, and we get in the theater. We're sitting there and, you know, I I started to feel that like we're about to watch a Star Wars movie. I'm getting kind of hyped.

[00:32:31]You know, >> movie starts, you get that the text and then we start with that slow move in on uh uh with the Imperial facility there.

[00:32:40]>> And already I was like, >> this dialogue and this acting is terrible.

[00:32:45]>> I was thinking that why does this just look like the volume?

[00:32:47]>> Yeah, that too, right? And I'm like, "Oh boy, I hope this doesn't spell doom for the rest of the movie."

[00:32:55]Unfortunately, it kind of did. Did you feel that way?

[00:32:57]>> It just felt predictable.

[00:33:01]I think that was the other problem is I I just was kind of like, "Okay, here we are."

[00:33:06]>> Yeah.

[00:33:07]>> Okay. All right.

[00:33:09]>> Well, fortunately, that's not the only thing that happens in this opening scene. You do have the Mando Batman moment.

[00:33:15]>> Yeah.

[00:33:16]>> And I did think that scene was pretty slick.

[00:33:18]>> Yeah. actually really liked that.

[00:33:19]>> Yes, him taking out all the snow troopers and everything.

[00:33:22]>> Yeah, that was a pretty cool scene. And we saw uh when he gets on the AT80, that's what I saw at Celebration. That one take shot. That was really cool.

[00:33:28]>> Or it was like uh coming back then goes back forward.

[00:33:31]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:33:31]>> Yeah. That was really nice. And the same steady cam operator, I forgive me, I don't know their name. Uh was the same person who operated the steady cam in that Book of Boba Fett episode directed by Bryce Dallas Howard. Mando is walking through the ring around. Yeah.

[00:33:44]>> Yeah. So the same cinematographer did both of those. Uh, I thought that was really cool because you can definitely see that like it feels very Mando. It feels very Star Wars. I I liked that sequence.

[00:33:53]>> The alarm going off and the music going with it and he's sneaking around and setting people on fire.

[00:33:59]>> And then even Grou jumping out and doing his little thing. I thought >> this opening actually set the movie up in such a nice way >> that unfortunately I don't know that it gets better than that than the opening.

[00:34:12]And that's crazy to me because we got done with that opening sequence and I'm like Okay. Yeah.

[00:34:17]>> Like if this is the whole movie, I'm down for this. This is pretty cool.

[00:34:20]>> Yeah.

[00:34:21]>> Unfortunately, it's not really the whole movie.

[00:34:22]>> My only thing is I I How do you feel about the AT-ATs and him just like taking them out?

[00:34:28]>> I'm of two minds cuz I know that you >> give your critique to the folks at home cuz I know what your critique is. I've thought about it.

[00:34:34]>> My only thought is does it like does it like undermine like how they are in Empire Strikes Back easily.

[00:34:40]>> Did the rebels just need the Mandalorian? would he would he have been able to just take out all five of the AT-ATs or six AT-ATs that are attacking uh Echo Base? Because like they can't take him out like and I'm not I'm not trying to uh you know compare Luke Skywalker to the Mandalorian. It's not that. It's just that like it takes a lot for Luke to take out the uh the AT-AT and he's only able to take out one.

[00:35:03]>> Yeah.

[00:35:04]>> So maybe it's cuz they're on the side of a mountain and he's able to, you know, just finagle his way through it. But it just seems like, you know, he blows up the one with just thermal detonators on its on its foot.

[00:35:13]>> Yeah.

[00:35:14]>> It's just kind of like it seems like he's doing this pretty easily.

[00:35:16]>> I think it is because he is a Mandalorian.

[00:35:19]>> Yeah.

[00:35:19]>> He's an elite warrior. Like they talk about that like that, you know, they're a dying breed and there's so so few of them and they're so fearsome. You know, they're legendary. And you get to see that in action here. So, in some way, I wonder if that's intentional that they're on the snowy planet, which by the way, is this Irriadu?

[00:35:36]>> I don't know. It's the planet where tech dies. You know, they have the Imperial Fortress up there. I wonder if this is the same planet.

[00:35:42]>> Maybe. Is that the room where uh Krennic had a screen?

[00:35:45]>> I don't know. Maybe. I Food for thought.

[00:35:48]Let me know. I I don't know if it's confirmed where this planet is. That was a thought I had. Anyway, seeing the ATH's in the snow. I wonder if he's trying to draw a comparison to the rebels on Hoth show. This is how >> Mando's not just one of the rebels. He's an elite warrior.

[00:36:03]>> Not part of like that rag tag group or whatever. Yeah. So, I understand your critique, but at the same time, I wonder if that was purposeful.

[00:36:10]>> Mhm.

[00:36:10]>> That's just my perspective.

[00:36:11]>> And I don't know, maybe I'm g being too hard on it, but at the same time, I'm like, >> you know, I thought these things are supposed to be pretty hard to destroy >> cuz if they're, you know, a dime a dozen.

[00:36:21]>> Yeah. Unfortunately, that is a result.

[00:36:23]You see that a lot in movies, >> power scaling.

[00:36:25]>> Yeah. Where you bring in the next big thing and it undermines like that thing before.

[00:36:29]>> Yeah. That was supposed to be crazy.

[00:36:31]>> Yeah.

[00:36:31]>> Yeah.

[00:36:32]>> There's one other big thing that I do want to discuss here. another like red flag, if you will, uh gives you a lot of insight into this movie and how it was made. It's actually the title >> when the title pops up. So, >> you get to that moment, >> right? I thought it was really cool.

[00:36:48]It's just like the show.

[00:36:50]>> Yeah.

[00:36:50]>> The Mandalorian, but it's up a little high. Okay. So, there's room for something. You know, that's a filmmaking trick, by the way. If like there's a dead part of the dead space, >> it's to draw your eye into thinking like what's going to happen here? And I like that when movies play into that, especially with their graphics, and then the Mandalorian, then you get the Doom and then there's Grou and Grou. I like that a lot.

[00:37:09]>> But then I'm thinking back to the marketing cuz you, if you remember, it was actually I don't remember if it was Celebration or if it was a little before, >> there was a shift in the visual style of this movie and how it was marketed. So when it was first put out, they had a logo. I'll try to flash it up on screen.

[00:37:24]I'll try to find it. But it was like more similar to this, >> closer to that >> 3D, you know, it was just the Mandalorian and Grou and then they rebranded it to this like Raiders of the Lost Dark Pulp Adventure >> with that first trailer.

[00:37:35]>> Yeah.

[00:37:36]>> And you have that like in all the trailers. I think it looks really cool where it says the Mandalorian Grou, you know, with that kind of animation.

[00:37:41]>> And that was the marketing they carried forward through this to now. And I watched that in the movie. I'm like, I don't see any of this. Did they just try to put a new coat of paint on it to get people in the door? because this feels like this was the this was the design all along and I think I would have appreciated the marketing if they would have been a little bit more true to this. Yeah.

[00:38:02]>> Because I don't think it ever lives up to that like Raiders of the Lost Dark vibe.

[00:38:06]>> Mhm.

[00:38:07]>> It's very strange to me.

[00:38:08]>> I It's odd that like the the title card in the movie doesn't match the poster.

[00:38:13]>> Yeah.

[00:38:14]>> Yeah.

[00:38:14]>> So, I wanted to mention that. I'm curious if anybody is sipping the Kool-Aid with me on that one. I don't know if that makes sense, but it it was something that really struck me when I saw that opening title crowd. I literally cocked my head in the theater like, >> "Huh, >> that doesn't match."

[00:38:28]>> Interesting. I wonder why they did that.

[00:38:29]>> Mhm.

[00:38:30]>> Just a weird choice. So, after we get done on uh not Irriatu, maybe IU, not Hoth, basically.

[00:38:36]>> Yeah.

[00:38:36]>> We get back to Adelfi.

[00:38:38]>> Yes. Which was Adelfi Jukebox.

[00:38:41]>> I wondered if you were going to pick up on that.

[00:38:43]>> I was so disappointed. I'm like, you have a theme for this place. Play it.

[00:38:48]Yeah.

[00:38:48]>> Come on.

[00:38:49]>> Well, it's because we had our nice little Top Gun opening credit sequence.

[00:38:52]A little different from >> a new thing for Star Wars.

[00:38:56]>> Yeah.

[00:38:56]>> Which >> it didn't bother me as much as I thought it would. I was like, "Oh man, I'm going to hate this." And um was like, you know, it was quick.

[00:39:02]>> Yeah, >> it was it was fine.

[00:39:04]>> Yeah, it was fine. I didn't really have an issue with it. The visuals were nice.

[00:39:07]There was two shots in there I think were really interesting. So, one maybe Hera in the background.

[00:39:13]>> Mhm. She like when you have that slow walk with Zeb and uh Mando and Grou, >> there is a green Twilight that you just see her back, but she walks past the screen. I'm like, >> saw R5 back there.

[00:39:24]>> R5 and him.

[00:39:26]>> I did see R5. Did we see R2?

[00:39:29]>> I have heard that you're not the only one who thinks they saw uh Red Five and R2-D2 in the background.

[00:39:35]>> Dude, I think that's him.

[00:39:36]>> Yeah.

[00:39:36]>> And that's fine for me. That's just enough. I like to know that Luke's out there just helping out from time to time >> because he should be he should be helping out from time to time because I saw someone on Twitter mention this.

[00:39:45]They were like, "It can't be R2 because Luke's not there." I'm like, "Just cuz you don't see him doesn't mean he's not there."

[00:39:50]>> Yeah. And isn't he getting lowered into the ship or >> Yeah. He's like getting put like that shot.

[00:39:55]>> What if they're leaving?

[00:39:56]>> Yeah.

[00:39:56]>> Yeah. He's in the ship already.

[00:39:58]>> Not that I needed anything like that, but that was plenty for me to be like, "Oh, that's cool." That like he's boopping around there. I don't need him to interact with anybody in the movie, but you know, it was cool. It was a nice little call back, I thought. And if it's not red R2, then whatever. But it did really look like him.

[00:40:10]>> Yeah.

[00:40:10]>> And it looked like red five. So >> I mean I wondered if you were wondering that too. Yeah.

[00:40:15]>> That like because it it like I'm like looks like a blue R2 unit back there.

[00:40:21]>> I wonder if Connor's uh thinking what I'm thinking.

[00:40:24]>> It's him. He's going to be in the movie.

[00:40:25]>> It's him.

[00:40:26]>> That's why I hate this movie. There's no Luke Skywalker.

[00:40:29]>> There's no R2-D2. Yeah.

[00:40:32]>> That's it. Might as well admit it to everybody.

[00:40:34]>> That's it. I hated it because it didn't have my have my guy I like. Yeah. No, I thought that was fun.

[00:40:39]>> Uh then we get to meet Colonel Ward.

[00:40:41]>> Yes.

[00:40:41]>> Sigourney Weaver's character.

[00:40:43]>> Yes.

[00:40:44]>> O one of the most disappointing aspects of the movie. I don't know if she forgot she was in the movie, if she was taking a nap during like I I if that was the first time she got the script.

[00:40:56]>> Yeah.

[00:40:57]>> This is another thing that became a mainstay for the movie. You would have action sequence that moved incredibly and then every time we stopped it's like we were moving through molasses.

[00:41:06]>> Yeah.

[00:41:07]>> Nobody was excited to be delivering their lines except for >> Martin Scorsesei and Steve Blum with Zeb. Those are the only characters I felt like were actually trying with their performance. Did you feel that way?

[00:41:18]>> No, I I completely agree. I was going to bring up Martin Scorsesei. He actually like seemed like he was trying to do something.

[00:41:24]>> Yeah. I mean, I don't mean to be that guy, but it didn't even look like Dave Filona wanted to be there. And like that one shot of him that he just looked like real just kind of just uh I don't mellow for lack of a better term. Very stoic, but not like Yeah.

[00:41:40]>> Yeah. It's >> melancholy. There you go.

[00:41:43]>> Melancholy.

[00:41:44]>> Melancholy.

[00:41:45]>> You've not seen Megamind? That's right.

[00:41:46]>> No, >> that's a joke in that movie.

[00:41:48]>> There you go. Maybe someday we'll review Megamind.

[00:41:52]>> Never say never. It's a good movie.

[00:41:54]Yeah, I've heard it's good.

[00:41:55]>> Yeah.

[00:41:56]>> So, all these performances just a big disappointing part. And I think I'd feel a lot differently about this movie if the performances were good.

[00:42:03]>> They're just not. I hate to say it. What a lot of people criticize the prequels for, I think this movie is guilty of at every step of the way.

[00:42:12]>> Like wooden dialogue, terrible performances, and it again moves like molasses when we're not in an action scene. It's so weird. It's just so flat.

[00:42:21]Then we get to that scene where we get gifted the razor crust. And I'll admit this didn't bother me as much as I thought it would.

[00:42:27]>> Yeah, I'll agree with you because I think I even leaned over and I said, "Are you happy now?"

[00:42:32]>> It's a good enough uh good enough reason for him to get uh get his [ __ ] back.

[00:42:36]>> They they explained it really well.

[00:42:37]Yeah.

[00:42:37]>> But then you have that really weird sequence like, "Come on, Mando." And then he like hops onto the >> Well, she tells him like, "Hey, here's here's your uh your payment." And he's like, "Man, that's way more. We didn't agree on that." She's like, "Consider it in advance. I need you to go talk to the Huts. I don't want to talk to the Huts.

[00:42:52]Come on. You're working for me. You go talk to the Huts. No, I'm not doing it.

[00:42:54]Okay, well, I guess you don't get the Razor Crest. She walks away. And then Zeb's like, >> "Come on." He's like, "No, I'm not doing it." But he still walks onto the ship and he's like, "Let's just go talk to him." And he's like, "I'm not doing it."

[00:43:05]>> And then he sits at the cockpit >> and then just goes >> and then just goes like it doesn't cut away. It doesn't It just he just flies.

[00:43:11]I thought he was going to take it for a little spin and then be like, "Ah, shucks. I'll go do it."

[00:43:14]>> Yeah.

[00:43:16]This is And maybe it's because he changed his mind while he was flying it.

[00:43:20]Or maybe it was one of those like >> I don't know. He was just saying that and then he decided >> stuff on the cutting room floor honestly cuz there's other things that come up later where it's like wait a minute how do you get that thing?

[00:43:32]>> Yeah. It's just it's odd where it's just like why is there stuff missing?

[00:43:36]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:43:36]>> I kept having these moments while I was watching it. So this again is pretty early on where I'm like what?

[00:43:42]>> Okay. And then he we go to Nala.

[00:43:45]>> Yeah. We land. What an ugly planet.

[00:43:48]>> Yeah.

[00:43:48]>> Going through the mcelium tree with all the weird like burrowing and the huts are gross.

[00:43:53]>> Yeah.

[00:43:53]>> Weird stuff. We get to the twins, which by the way, we don't know who voiced them and they also don't have names.

[00:43:57]Isn't that wild?

[00:43:58]>> They don't have names.

[00:43:59]>> No, they're just the twins.

[00:44:00]>> The twins.

[00:44:01]>> Yeah.

[00:44:02]>> Okay.

[00:44:03]>> Same from from Book of Boba Fett fame.

[00:44:06]>> Yeah. From the twins. Yeah, >> indeed.

[00:44:08]>> Yes.

[00:44:09]>> Yes.

[00:44:09]>> Uh and then we get really the main thing in the movie. Mando's got to find this faceless Imperial. Oh, he's got to go rescue rod of the rod of the hut for the huts.

[00:44:17]>> Yeah.

[00:44:17]>> And that's the main crux.

[00:44:19]>> Rescue.

[00:44:20]>> Rescue.

[00:44:21]>> Yeah.

[00:44:21]>> Right.

[00:44:22]>> Mhm.

[00:44:22]>> So, that's the intro.

[00:44:23]>> Yeah.

[00:44:24]>> Off to an okay start.

[00:44:25]>> Yeah.

[00:44:25]>> Some very uh headscratching choices, but okay. I'm having fun.

[00:44:30]>> Yeah.

[00:44:30]>> And then we get to go to Space Chicago.

[00:44:33]>> Yes.

[00:44:40]>> First things first, I know we're not the first to call this out. Why is this not Narshida?

[00:44:46]>> Yeah, >> when they showed Na Narada, if you didn't know, Narida is basically Space Chicago. It's like evil Coruscant. Okay.

[00:44:55]It's in a lot of different It's like in the video games. It's in a lot of stuff, right?

[00:45:00]>> It is a moon that orbits now Huta. You see it when he's flying in. You see it like what in the world?

[00:45:07]>> It's kind of like in Kenobi, right?

[00:45:09]>> Yeah. With Dau. Like, why isn't that Narida?

[00:45:12]>> Yeah. Like why do they keep making new planets that are just reskins of other planets that we know? It's so weird.

[00:45:18]>> Yeah, it would have been. So the fact that even he goes to Nhuta is even more strange. It's like why didn't they say, "Hey, >> we know he's on now somewhere, but like if you can't like we can't move, so can you go find him for us?

[00:45:29]>> Figure this out."

[00:45:30]>> You know, he's on like Sakari Sakari. I don't know. It's something like that.

[00:45:33]Space Chicago.

[00:45:34]>> Yeah.

[00:45:34]>> So we go there.

[00:45:36]>> That's when we start getting this bop >> from Lwood G Man. Yeah, >> crushed it. I >> It's weird. It's You either love it or you hate it. I I'm the kind of I'm I'm in the middle.

[00:45:47]>> You don't love that.

[00:45:48]>> I think it's all right. I don't know how Star Warsy it sounds, though.

[00:45:50]>> I I thought it was a vibe. I don't know.

[00:45:52]I thought it was really cool. Like I said, cuz I usually don't like EDM in Star Wars either, but >> I thought it was cool.

[00:45:57]>> I really liked that moment when they're flying in uh Zeb's flying the Razer Crest and then you get the whistle as he like leaves the Razer Crest in his jetpack. It's like this is slick. This is the only time I thought we were getting like some maybe some indie vibes, >> some a little bit of noir.

[00:46:13]>> Yeah.

[00:46:13]>> And >> I don't know if I've ever said on the show, and I've talked to you about it a ton, I've always wanted a Star Wars noir. This is the closest we've ever gotten. This is easily the best part of the movie. And I was like, it started to change my mind.

[00:46:24]>> Yeah. Like, oo, okay, here we go. This is what I was hoping for. This is fun.

[00:46:27]But this is where it like falls back into uh Mandalorian like the show or the series where it's like well you need to do this but I need you to go do this first.

[00:46:38]>> Fetch Quest like just a fetch quest for a fetch quest. Like it's it's crazy.

[00:46:43]Yeah.

[00:46:43]>> Well, it feels like a video game.

[00:46:45]>> Yes.

[00:46:45]>> That video games are like that where you just have to keep you have to go here, get this thing, go talk to this person.

[00:46:49]It feels like that.

[00:46:50]>> Yeah.

[00:46:50]>> Uh I agree with you 100%. So we get into uh uh that that bar with the salt. That was an interesting concept. Yeah, >> I kind of liked that. It had a nice payoff where he drops the big salt crystal in the guy's cup.

[00:47:02]>> Yeah, >> that was cool. I liked >> I like that guy. I don't know why.

[00:47:05]>> The saucy tin looking dude.

[00:47:06]>> Yeah, the big fad.

[00:47:07]>> Yeah, I just I don't know. I was just kind of like I kind of like this whole like weird like animosity that the Mando and this guy have and then uh Yeah.

[00:47:17]>> Knocks his horn off.

[00:47:18]>> Yeah. Cracks it right off. I was like that can't that can't be easy.

[00:47:21]>> That's got to hurt.

[00:47:22]>> He had to really hit him hard.

[00:47:23]>> Yeah.

[00:47:23]>> Yeah.

[00:47:24]>> That's not very nice. It isn't nice at all.

[00:47:27]>> Nice little fight scene though.

[00:47:28]>> Yes.

[00:47:29]>> And I did like uh you know throughout the movie up to this point showing that Grou really can hold on to his own.

[00:47:34]>> Yes. Exactly. He's hopping around in the baskets and stuff like that or the cages.

[00:47:38]>> Yeah. Man was not really worried about him. He's he's kind of his own dude. So I really like that. That as an overall thing. That's the thing I liked most about this movie is I did feel like it out of everybody Grou did get some advancement.

[00:47:49]>> Yeah.

[00:47:49]>> And he did feel like his own character.

[00:47:51]I know morsels because before he was no more than a prop. Now at least he's moving around, right?

[00:47:56]>> But still, I mean, gotta call call where we see it.

[00:47:59]>> Yeah.

[00:48:00]>> Then that's where we get uh we get to meet Rada for the first time.

[00:48:03]>> Yeah.

[00:48:04]>> I like >> Did you know that he's the son of Java the Hut, >> man? I I had forgotten and the movie I'm glad the movie kept reminding me.

[00:48:13]>> Yeah, >> cuz I didn't know that. I was like, "Oh, yeah, shoot." And he tells you again and again and again and again. every scene he's in.

[00:48:20]>> You have two like it's there's a few scenes in this movie that are literally just repeated >> over and over. Like >> again, it makes me think that this was television at one point.

[00:48:28]>> I think it was a first draft.

[00:48:29]>> It was like, no, he took parts of a season and you shoved it all together because it has all those things because it feels like, oh, he said something like this at the, you know, at the beginning of the arc and then he reminds everybody at the end of the arc. Yeah.

[00:48:42]>> Because there's been that much time. But unfortunately, this is a movie. were like, "Bro, you just said that 25 minutes ago. I remember."

[00:48:49]>> Yeah.

[00:48:50]>> I I I know that you don't want to live in the shadow of your father.

[00:48:53]>> Yeah.

[00:48:55]>> I know.

[00:48:57]How do you feel about Hut speaking basic?

[00:48:59]>> Oh, you know, I'm of two minds because I don't like that the twins do it.

[00:49:04]>> Yeah.

[00:49:05]>> For Rada though, I'm a little bit more down with that because he's like out becoming his own man, you know, getting out of the shadow of his father, Job of the Hut.

[00:49:11]>> But isn't that weird though too that he keeps saying that he wants to be his own man? Why not? I won't be in my own hut.

[00:49:16]>> Yeah.

[00:49:16]>> Yeah. I don't I don't know. Is that weird though? Like say that verbiage. Am I nitpicking? Maybe that's my nitpick, but I'm just like that's so weird.

[00:49:24]>> Yeah. It doesn't bother me, but I get it.

[00:49:25]>> Yeah. It's just I want to be my own man.

[00:49:27]>> I want to be my own hut.

[00:49:28]>> I want to be my own hut. No one out the >> Yeah. I don't know. I think it's fine.

[00:49:34]So I I the fact that he speaks basic I don't mind.

[00:49:37]>> Yeah.

[00:49:37]>> The twins I don't like that.

[00:49:39]>> Yeah. I don't like it either.

[00:49:39]>> That's where I fall. Especially since like we know that Mandanda speaks some Hatis may want to wanga.

[00:49:45]>> I think that would have gotten old though with how how much Rada is in the movie.

[00:49:48]>> Yes, >> that would have been a tough pill to swallow. So I I get why they went the route that they did.

[00:49:52]>> Yeah, >> I did not think that he looked the best.

[00:49:55]>> Why was he looking like special edition Job of the Hut?

[00:49:58]>> Yes, he does. It feels like one of those weird things that they were trying to maybe do a little fun call back, but he's in the movie so much that it's so noticeable.

[00:50:06]>> Yeah, it's ugly.

[00:50:07]>> Doesn't look good.

[00:50:08]>> Like, come on, guys. Job the hut worked because he's a practical thing.

[00:50:11]>> Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't think that scene's ever really worked well in the special edition every time they've tried it and because he looks the same in uh Phantom Menace.

[00:50:20]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:50:21]>> Yeah. And I get it like continuity wise and stuff like that, but like >> in Phantom Minis it's a little bit more palatable because you have more of those characters, but in A New Hope where everything is practical, he stands out like a very sore thumb.

[00:50:31]>> Yes. Yeah. For some reason, I feel like it works better in uh uh 97's the original version rather than how he looks now on Disney Plus, cuz you know, they've changed.

[00:50:42]>> Yes. I think it looks terrible in both.

[00:50:43]But >> yeah, but I for some reason I feel like maybe it's cuz that was the first time I saw it. I just feel like it's more palatable in the 97 version than how he looks now.

[00:50:51]>> But yes, I have to go look.

[00:50:53]>> Wasn't doing it for me.

[00:50:54]>> No. No. I His first scene I was okay. I was like, "Yeah, this isn't bad." And then even the fight. Yeah.

[00:50:59]>> The the Jerick match that was pretty cool. But then he just anytime he came back on screen, I don't want to be like my dad. Hey kid, your dad's one of the good ones. You know why? Cuz my dad wasn't one of the good ones. If you didn't know, my dad was Job of the Hut.

[00:51:12]>> Yeah. It's just weird because this is what I'm talking about. We're like Star Wars is like it's bread and butter is like father-son relationships.

[00:51:20]>> Yeah.

[00:51:20]>> They do it better every other time.

[00:51:23]>> Yeah, I know.

[00:51:23]>> Even Kylo Ren and Han Solo.

[00:51:25]>> Yeah.

[00:51:27]>> It just I there's no nuance. So there's nothing under the hood. It's just all surface level.

[00:51:32]>> And there's nothing in this movie that anything it tries, another thing in Star Wars does better.

[00:51:38]>> Yeah.

[00:51:38]>> Everything. And that's what's crazy.

[00:51:40]Like I've seen Mando have better fight scenes. Even though he has good fight scenes here, I've seen him have better.

[00:51:44]Even that dog fight with the Razer Crest, he does that in uh season two.

[00:51:48]Season one. I don't No, season two.

[00:51:50]>> That same one basically >> where he's spinning around. Yeah.

[00:51:53]>> Yeah. That same thing happens.

[00:51:54]>> Yeah. So, it's like, like you said, the father-son relationship, the the dynamics of all that, >> it's done better in like everything else.

[00:52:04]>> Yeah.

[00:52:04]>> Take look no further than the Bad Batch than what they're trying to do with like bringing Grou up into being a new character. We've seen that with Omega.

[00:52:11]>> Yeah. My goodness, it works with Omega.

[00:52:13]>> Yeah. That's why, again, I'll draw the comparison to Skeleton Crew again. That is, I think, the most fresh of anything we've gotten so far. Mhm.

[00:52:20]>> It felt like something new and exciting and also small stakes and a lot of heart.

[00:52:25]>> Yeah.

[00:52:25]>> Why couldn't this movie be this? It feels like just a bunch of, >> you know, I I really hate to make this comparison. You know what it feels like?

[00:52:31]It >> feels like if you trained AI on Star Wars and then asked it to write a script for you.

[00:52:36]>> Yeah.

[00:52:37]>> It just is is churning out a bunch of ideas >> that exist already in Star Wars, but in a much worse soulless way. I don't know, maybe that's harsh, maybe that's unfair, but that's kind of how I feel about it.

[00:52:47]>> Yeah.

[00:52:47]>> Yeah. I completely agree. uh about Rada and the fathers and sons things, but at least we get the deric match.

[00:52:55]>> That's kind of cool.

[00:52:56]>> It's okay.

[00:52:57]>> Yeah.

[00:52:58]>> Again, it was neat seeing those creatures and stuff like that. But Mando's back on his old stuff where it's like, oh, I won the fight. I yield.

[00:53:07]>> I was like, well, I guess uh guess he's consistent. He loves to yield.

[00:53:12]>> But then uh he does rescue Rod of the Hut, which again, weird scene because all those creatures are out and about.

[00:53:17]You're just going to let them go, >> I guess.

[00:53:19]>> And terrorize.

[00:53:20]>> Yeah.

[00:53:20]>> Sakari.

[00:53:21]>> Yeah, >> that's that's kind of a crappy thing to do, Mando. Like, you're an agent of the New Republic. This is a sovereign system.

[00:53:28]>> Okay, man. And then they get him. And this is another thing. Every time we see like Zeb pulling up, you know, cuz it happens a couple times trying to pick up Rada. I'm like, how's he getting in there?

[00:53:37]>> Especially when he's like just hovering it.

[00:53:40]>> Yeah.

[00:53:40]>> How does he get him in there?

[00:53:41]>> He slithers up there. I don't know. He rolls a lot.

[00:53:44]>> Yeah. You know, I do like the way he moves. I think it's creative. He's kind of like an ape and he just like >> just does barrel rolls and stuff.

[00:53:49]>> Yes. Does that all the times everywhere.

[00:53:51]>> And the chase. I actually really like the chase. I like Grou taking the reigns and doing it first.

[00:53:55]>> That felt like straight out of Clone Wars.

[00:53:57]>> Yeah.

[00:53:58]>> Just you have a hut and a car driving through Narada.

[00:54:03]>> Yes.

[00:54:04]>> Cracked me up. I'm like in a good way.

[00:54:06]I'm like this is cool, man. This is what I like it when Star Wars does weird stuff like this.

[00:54:09]>> Yeah.

[00:54:09]>> You got a space slug driving a car >> through the underworld of this noir type planet. Yes, I'm here for that. That's fun.

[00:54:17]>> There's a baby chasing him and a guy in a jetpack chasing him. Yeah, >> it's so weird. Like I said, easily for me the best part of the movie.

[00:54:24]>> Did you Did you think so? Is this the best part for you or did you have another part that really stood out to you?

[00:54:28]>> No, this would be the chunk of it that's good.

[00:54:30]>> Yeah, cuz I like even though I I kind of uh complained about it, I liked Martin Scorsesei going back and forth.

[00:54:37]>> Oh, yeah. We didn't even mention that.

[00:54:38]>> Yeah, that I was going to say I thought that he did a good job and having to go that joke where it's like going back and forth. It's like no, that's for his tab.

[00:54:44]Yeah, cuz he's eating the chips or whatever. That uh I like that. I liked the little uh interaction in the bar w with the coin, Mr. Coin.

[00:54:53]>> Uh yeah. So, >> and the and the salt joke. That was fun.

[00:54:57]>> Yes, the salt joke, too. Yes.

[00:54:59]>> Interesting that salt's currency.

[00:55:01]>> Yeah, I like that. That was neat.

[00:55:03]>> Yeah.

[00:55:03]>> So, we get in the into the Razor Crest and have some conversations there. We It's revealed that Lord Jon, who is actually the guy you're looking for.

[00:55:09]>> One in the same.

[00:55:10]>> Wow. It would have been great if they didn't spoil that.

[00:55:12]>> I know.

[00:55:15]What were they thinking?

[00:55:16]>> I It's like anything good, we can't even There's always something there, right?

[00:55:20]>> Yeah.

[00:55:21]>> Uh so we go and infiltrate the facility.

[00:55:23]There's that absolutely hilarious shot of all of them hiding behind the dune, but you have freaking rod of the hut.

[00:55:30]>> It's huge.

[00:55:31]>> Yeah.

[00:55:32]>> Cracked me up. They infiltrate that facility. That was okay.

[00:55:36]>> Question. Were those the remnant stormtroopers that all the toys are?

[00:55:41]>> I think so.

[00:55:41]>> They looked all white. I was watching for like the >> the guy with the shin >> the shin puldron or like the you know this the mismatched armor and stuff like that. I was looking for it and I'm like these guys all look just like normal stormtroopers.

[00:55:54]>> Yeah, I thought that too.

[00:55:55]>> Huh. Just I thought it was weird that I'm like why are you marketing the toys like this that like these are Oh no, no, these are remnant stormtroopers. Okay.

[00:56:02]>> I think the marketing was really trying to pretend this movie was something that it wasn't in so many places.

[00:56:08]>> Yeah.

[00:56:08]>> Uh the infiltration's fine. They get the Imperial guy. They get him on and then >> Seb's doing his thing. So, that's kind of cool.

[00:56:13]>> That was fun, I guess. You know, it's cool.

[00:56:15]>> I do appreciate >> even though I've I'm critiquing a lot about this movie and how disconnected it is. I do appreciate that we're not constantly referencing stuff from Rebels. It's just Zeb's just a member of the New Republic.

[00:56:26]>> Yeah, >> it's just a And I appreciate that. He's just a guy that works for the New Republic.

[00:56:29]>> Yeah, >> this might sound crazy. It might be my favorite outing from Zeb. It's not saying much because I don't really like him in Rebels, but >> yeah, >> I was like, "Oh, this guy's kind of fun." Yeah, >> Steve's doing it and he's expressive, right?

[00:56:40]>> He's actually in a character that I feel like has emotion and is delivering like having wants to be there.

[00:56:45]>> Yeah.

[00:56:46]>> We get back to Adelfi.

[00:56:48]>> Mhm.

[00:56:48]>> And this is where there's like a pretty big shift in the movie. Yeah. So, he goes to talk to uh Sigourney Weaver who's like, "Mando, >> you screwed up.

[00:56:56]>> You screwed up. Why'd you do that?" "Ah, it's fine. We don't really care. Uh we're going to go question this guy."

[00:57:02]>> Yeah.

[00:57:02]>> Okay. And he's like, "I need a break."

[00:57:04]And then it literally has a video game loading screen where we go hang out at his house for a little bit.

[00:57:08]>> Well, it's so weird too because like there's some like fade in and fade outs in this like in in this sequence and even in the last planet where it's like dude that's where the episode ends. Like I leaned I leaned over to you and was like and that's when the credits start rolling or it's like clearly that's where these like where the spots were or like the stops were supposed to be.

[00:57:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. which shows you another problem conceptually with this movie and we we've said this leading up to this.

[00:57:33]This character works for TV.

[00:57:35]>> Yeah.

[00:57:36]>> And part of that is like you don't have anybody to connect with. It's a helmet.

[00:57:40]You impress your emotions on him. And there that can go a long way. You can have some fun with that. But notice like I mean Darth Vader has what like 30 minutes of screen time in the original trilogy. Less. Yeah. Right. You're looking at human faces this entire time.

[00:57:52]That's important because we need to connect with our characters. Yeah, >> we can we can make that work 30 minutes at a time.

[00:57:57]>> Yeah, >> 2 and 1 half hours though.

[00:57:59]>> Who they playing off or who's he got to play off of? Oh, someone that doesn't speak.

[00:58:03]>> I think that's a big part of this movie's problem.

[00:58:06]>> Yeah, I I had this in my notes, so I might as well just talk about it right now. Uh that this is a single character film just like Solo, but I think that Solo does it better because like this is the second Star Wars movie to you don't cut to other things. You just stay with the Mando and Grou.

[00:58:22]>> Oh, that's a great point. Yes, you're absolutely right. There's just an a story.

[00:58:25]>> Yep. That you're just with them and that's it. Great. Yeah. So, but here's the other thing is I think Solo does the same thing, but I think it does it better.

[00:58:34]>> You are absolutely right. Wow.

[00:58:35]>> Because everybody around Han is good, too.

[00:58:39]>> Yeah.

[00:58:39]>> And interesting. And the problem here is that Den's face is covered, Grou doesn't speak, and Zeb is a CGI thing.

[00:58:50]>> Yes.

[00:58:51]>> Yes.

[00:58:51]>> That is a excellent, excellent point. I did not think about this being just an a story and for two and a half hours.

[00:58:56]>> It's a lot of a story.

[00:58:57]>> It's a lot of a story when you can't see the main character's face.

[00:59:00]>> Mhm.

[00:59:00]>> Yeah.

[00:59:01]>> Great, great point. I didn't even think about that.

[00:59:10]>> So, we're chilling at home.

[00:59:13]Anzel's come.

[00:59:16]How dare you stand where Babu Brick stood?

[00:59:19]>> They talk way too much in this movie.

[00:59:21]>> Yeah.

[00:59:21]>> Yeah.

[00:59:22]Less is more.

[00:59:23]>> This whole sequence is fine.

[00:59:26]There's just nothing here. This would have been the filler episode in the show.

[00:59:30]>> Yeah.

[00:59:30]>> And then Embo comes and that's kind of cool, I guess, cuz you get Mando gets knocked out, but he gets his stuff taken away.

[00:59:38]>> Yeah. I don't know. I I don't really have anything to say about this part because there's nothing really that happens. I mean, I like I like Embo.

[00:59:44]>> Yeah. See the N1, as I said earlier, and the blurs. That's cool, I guess. Yeah.

[00:59:48]Uh, oh, you know, another sequence I did like about this chilling at home sequence where Rada is playing with Grou on the beach.

[00:59:54]>> Yeah, >> it >> was really nice.

[00:59:56]>> Yeah, >> I liked that a lot actually.

[00:59:57]>> You could actually emote on the on on Den, >> right? It was kind of pulling into his face there. There are two moments in the movie I thought did a really great job with that. It was that moment and it was also when Den says goodbye to Grou when he thinks that he's going to go die.

[01:00:09]>> Yeah, >> that those were both moments I thought the helmet really worked.

[01:00:13]>> Yeah.

[01:00:14]>> Uh for like impressing your emotion on the So, Ro's on the rescue mission.

[01:00:24]>> Yep.

[01:00:24]>> What do you think about that ship >> that the Enzelins use?

[01:00:28]>> Funny little gag, I guess.

[01:00:31]>> I think does that kind of break some stuff? Can you have a hyperdrive in a ship that small?

[01:00:35]>> I have no idea.

[01:00:37]>> I guess it's about the size of Well, I was about to say it's about the size of an escape pod, but that doesn't have a hyperdrive in it, does it?

[01:00:42]>> It doesn't.

[01:00:43]>> It's a little wild to me. It's like such a small thing. I don't know. It's inconsequential, but it is something I thought about.

[01:00:48]>> Say, let's not try to break the lore because we could we could break the lore.

[01:00:51]>> Yeah.

[01:00:52]>> Just reminds me I got flashbacks to hold maneuver.

[01:00:56]>> Yes.

[01:00:56]>> A little bit because it's like if you can put Wow. You know what? I am going to open this up. Think about this. If you could put a hyperdrive in something that small, why not create hyperdrive missiles?

[01:01:05]>> I already said that that like I I said that you could do with a ship, right?

[01:01:09]>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, why why are they even worried about the Death Star? Why don't why make a trench run? Just go to hyperspace with a droid driving it.

[01:01:16]Yeah.

[01:01:16]>> Right in front of the Death Star and you'll split into a thousand pieces.

[01:01:19]>> Well, I'm saying like you could even take it now a step further. Make it a missile. Hyperdrive missile.

[01:01:23]>> Yep. It's over.

[01:01:26]>> So, we get to now uh Embo has captured Den. The scene with him and Embo's ship was kind of fun, >> like saving the Anzelon, I guess, from >> Kyber.

[01:01:36]>> Maybe my least favorite scene in the movie, and that's really saying something, and that's when his helmet is removed. Correct me if I'm wrong here though because it's during this scene.

[01:01:45]This is where Den is told that Grou is going to outlive him.

[01:01:51]>> Yeah.

[01:01:51]>> And this is the whole concept of the movie where the the old take care of the young and then the young take care of the old. You know that line that's um you know he's going to live centuries beyond me. He says that in the trailer, but it's not actually in the movie himself. The cuts actually just tell him that.

[01:02:05]>> Don't you think it would have helped with Grou's motivation if he was somehow there during that conversation? He could have heard that. Or is that just for Mando's?

[01:02:13]>> Maybe that's just for Mando cuz maybe >> Grou I'm sure knows that.

[01:02:17]>> Does he?

[01:02:18]>> He's a baby.

[01:02:19]>> I think that his development like he it's >> just something that like I'm just trying to think about ways to sprinkle and how a little bit more like how development.

[01:02:27]Yes. How how I would help I guess.

[01:02:30]>> How how he'd fix how we fix it.

[01:02:31]>> Yeah. How how I would help it or like cuz I just feel like that would be better for the characters and the journey that Grou goes on where he's like, "Oh, no. I do actually have to take care of him." I think Grou is a little bit more like intelligent. So, Grou reminds me of like a dog. So, a dog they say has the like the the cognitive ability of like a toddler.

[01:02:51]>> However, >> dogs also have like wisdom, if that makes sense, like in their own way. So, yeah, they might not be smarter than a toddler necessarily, but they're able to like apply their knowledge in a little bit more practical ways because they are around a little longer, you know, and they mature in different ways. I think Grou is kind of like this where he does act like a baby sometimes, but he clearly is competent as well.

[01:03:12]>> Yeah.

[01:03:12]>> So, I don't think that we have a full grasp on really what Grou's development looks like and that's fine with me.

[01:03:19]>> I guess I'm just talking with like the whole like trying to tell me where it's like maybe we could kind of like help connect a few more dots.

[01:03:27]>> Yeah.

[01:03:27]>> Yeah.

[01:03:27]>> No, I'm with you. I think that that could have definitely added a little bit to it. It's not really addressed.

[01:03:33]>> Mhm. After that, you get Den's line about like the young protect the old later, but >> beyond that, if it was just a regular kid like helping him out, it wouldn't have made a difference. You don't really ever feel the weight of what the huts are telling him there.

[01:03:46]>> Yeah.

[01:03:47]>> So, his helmet gets removed and we see Pedro.

[01:03:50]>> This was a moment in the movie I'm like, "Okay, cool. We're going to do something interesting here.

[01:03:54]>> What was the point of this?" He >> gives the helmet right back.

[01:03:57]>> Yeah. And they even have that line where he's like, "Man, Mandalorian steel.

[01:04:02]>> Mandalorian steel fetches, you know, a hefty price on the black market."

[01:04:06]>> Yeah.

[01:04:07]>> Hey, good job. Here's your helmet back.

[01:04:09]>> What?

[01:04:10]>> Yeah.

[01:04:10]>> What?

[01:04:11]>> Why?

[01:04:13]>> Baffling decision.

[01:04:14]>> Mhm.

[01:04:14]>> Cuz you get, you know, Pedro has that fight with the dragon snake, which is fine. Although, >> before that, he fights those I I don't I apologize. I don't know the creature's names. They're in Jabba's palace. I thought that was kind of cool. Nice little shout out. Did you like that that scene or do you like the alien?

[01:04:27]>> I like the alien.

[01:04:28]>> So that scene when he's fighting those aliens there in the pond basically >> already a bizarre scene because he's like standing up in the water but then you see it's really deep and like I get that he's standing on branches but >> they filmed it in a platform like he's not acting like he's walking on branches but whatever.

[01:04:44]>> Did you could you see any of that?

[01:04:46]>> Not super well.

[01:04:48]>> This is another moment I kept having these moments where the movie was getting good for a little bit and then I'm like what in the world? I can't see a thing. Yeah, >> cuz he like he starts getting pushed pulled under water and all this stuff happening. Then he stands up with a spear.

[01:04:58]>> Yeah, he's pulling well he pulled the stick from him or whatever.

[01:05:01]>> I didn't see that. I was like, "Where'd he get the spear?"

[01:05:03]>> Yeah, he got it from the guy underwater.

[01:05:05]Yeah.

[01:05:05]>> So maybe that's just me. I actually I talked to Rety's holocron about this a little bit. We were messaging back and forth and I asked him. I was like, "Did you feel that way?" He's like, "Nah, I" because he had a lot of similar opinions that we do about the movie. You're like, "No, that one I I I kind of liked that scene." I was like, "Okay, maybe that one's just me. I just I felt like I couldn't see anything." Yeah, >> but then you have the dragon snake.

[01:05:24]>> I think part of it was the iMac screen.

[01:05:26]It's just too big sometimes.

[01:05:28]>> Yeah. Yeah, you're alone on that one.

[01:05:29]>> Okay. Sure.

[01:05:31]>> Sure.

[01:05:31]>> The fight with the dragon snake was fine. Uh but then >> how dare you stand where the Rancor stood >> again? Doesn't it feel like it's just let's put all of Star Wars in a big pot.

[01:05:40]>> Yeah.

[01:05:41]>> Here's Rancor fight. Here's uh here's Obi-Wan's sacrifice. Here's like >> Yeah.

[01:05:47]>> I don't know, man. Anyway, he gets his helmet back and that was lame. Yeah.

[01:05:52]>> Bear with me for a moment. Let's Let's You were just saying how you would do a fix. I got a fix.

[01:05:56]>> Mhm.

[01:05:56]>> Up until this point, the movie's okay.

[01:05:58]>> Yeah.

[01:05:59]>> There's some head scratchers. There's some like I don't like this, but overall, like, whatever. Like, we can we can save it.

[01:06:04]>> Yeah.

[01:06:04]>> What if by this moment this was a turning point for the character, he loses his helmet, and now he doesn't have it for the rest of the movie. Maybe he gets it back at the end.

[01:06:13]>> Yeah.

[01:06:14]>> And maybe the Huts are like Mandalorian Steel. Maybe he loses his armor, too.

[01:06:19]>> Yeah.

[01:06:20]And what if after this you get a little bit of Iron Man 3 action? You know that great scene where Tony has to like go to Home Depot. Yeah.

[01:06:27]>> And >> show that he's more than just the armor.

[01:06:29]>> Yeah. He's more than just his armor. And that comes back in Spider-Man Homecoming. Like, hey, if you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it.

[01:06:35]>> Mando, if you're nothing without your armor, then maybe you shouldn't have it.

[01:06:38]>> Yeah.

[01:06:38]>> What if a good chunk of this movie in this last act was him having to be Mando without his gear?

[01:06:46]>> Yeah. And then when Grou rescues him, then they can have this big moment. He gets his gear back and there's a big final fight, but show a little bit of character development for Den, you know.

[01:06:57]Well, now you have to deal with the fact that you don't have your armor. At least you don't have your helmet.

[01:07:01]>> What do you do in that case?

[01:07:02]>> Mhm.

[01:07:03]>> Wouldn't that have been awesome?

[01:07:05]>> It been interesting >> because it feels so pointless that he just gets it back. And it's like, did you just do that so we could see Pedro for a scene?

[01:07:11]>> That's definitely why it is.

[01:07:12]>> So you could give him a bigger paycheck and he could go home.

[01:07:15]>> It's definitely why it is. I I mean I don't see any other reason why because why do that? But like so I can kill everyone in this room.

[01:07:25]>> Okay. It's mostly Troy's anyway.

[01:07:27]>> Yeah.

[01:07:28]>> So >> yeah, >> he's poisoned. Grou rescues him. Cool.

[01:07:31]He's they're like there's another actually decent scene where he's running through the forest. He's poisoned and then they get to the Enzelen ship and he's like, "Oh shoot, I can't get on that." Grou >> get out of here. I'm gonna hold him off.

[01:07:42]>> Yep. Because he takes out a bunch of droids.

[01:07:44]>> Yeah.

[01:07:44]>> Yeah. Then he passes out >> and he's dead.

[01:07:46]>> He starts then bugs start covering him.

[01:07:49]>> Yeah.

[01:07:49]>> Like the temple of doom.

[01:07:50]>> Was that a weird scene to you?

[01:07:52]>> It was really strange.

[01:07:53]>> He was already poisoned. Why are you showing me a scorpion walk up to him like, "Brother, he's already poisoned."

[01:07:57]>> It's a fake out.

[01:07:58]>> Yeah. So Grou can eat the scorpion, but then all the other bugs just leave.

[01:08:01]>> Exactly. He scared them away.

[01:08:05]>> And then also he force heals him, right?

[01:08:06]>> Yep.

[01:08:07]>> Why didn't that fix the poison?

[01:08:09]>> He couldn't get his blood.

[01:08:10]>> I can't.

[01:08:10]>> He just healed the wound. He doesn't know because as you said he's wise like a dog but he doesn't know he's still a toddler.

[01:08:19]>> He doesn't know he's been poisoned.

[01:08:21]>> There's just a limitation to force healing. I guess he could just close the wound and that's it.

[01:08:24]>> Yeah.

[01:08:25]>> So then he builds a little hut and it makes you think like did Yoda like build his hut like that?

[01:08:29]>> Yes.

[01:08:31]>> He did. He literally built Yoda's hut and then put Den inside it.

[01:08:35]>> Where did he get the light?

[01:08:36]>> Dude, that bothered me cuz like it's Luke's light >> from Empire. I thought he made a little fire and then >> like, "Oh no, there's just a light in the corner. How's he powering it?"

[01:08:46]>> I don't like picking things apart like this, but like that's ridiculous.

[01:08:49]>> There's so much in this movie.

[01:08:51]>> Yes. Where it's like every scene there's something weird. It's like why are you making this decision?

[01:08:55]>> I know. The movie becomes a weird little artouse film for a little bit now cuz you get Grou and like this is >> fine. I guess. How dare he have Yoda's walking stick.

[01:09:06]>> I know. He goes and finds it and like why? You're not old. Yeah.

[01:09:08]>> Why do you need that?

[01:09:09]>> It's dumb.

[01:09:10]>> This was all fine. I guess it was a little too long. I thought >> Yes.

[01:09:15]>> And then he goes and meets like the the weird like >> the lizard medicine man.

[01:09:18]>> The lizard medicine man.

[01:09:19]>> Yeah. Hanging out in the bayou. I just hate trailers. I think I've just realized that because here I am thinking this is something special. It just turns out to be nothing. Like this whole scene cuz you see all that in the trailer where he's meditating and stuff like that and it's like >> And they're like coupling it with this guy.

[01:09:34]>> Exactly. And then also coupling it with Den talking about how he's going to live on and everything. And I'm like, "Oh man, maybe we are going to get some like, you know, Yoda's or um Grou is going to kind of start maybe becoming like Yoda or like becoming like a Jedi."

[01:09:48]>> No, that's my own fault though.

[01:09:50]>> And then he just happens to have the cure.

[01:09:51]>> Yep. The cure for the dragon sake.

[01:09:53]>> Yes. Cuz you know this Bayou magic.

[01:09:55]>> Yeah. But this Bayou magic. Hey Sha, go bring that this craw dad medicine.

[01:10:00]>> Exactly.

[01:10:00]>> To to your buddy. I did like that moment though where Grou crawled under his arm.

[01:10:06]>> That Yeah, that was good.

[01:10:07]>> That one got me.

[01:10:08]>> It was solid.

[01:10:09]>> There was a moment or two like that in this movie where I'm like got my dad heart.

[01:10:13]>> Yeah.

[01:10:13]>> And that one was like Yeah, that was sweet. That was a nice >> I was like that's nice.

[01:10:17]>> But then like Grou wakes up and looks outside and then T just has his blaster back. It just feels like there were ideas here. Tidbits of ideas. Like I've seen interviews where they're like, "Oh no, this movie Den's like training him to be on his own." And I'm like, there is one scene where he suits up and tells him like, "Hey, make sure your armor is this and that."

[01:10:40]>> Mhm.

[01:10:40]>> And that's it. That doesn't that's not a whole movie of like or that's not the whole point of the movie. Yeah.

[01:10:46]>> That's one scene. Yeah.

[01:10:47]>> So you can't just like cherry pick that out and say that, oh no, that's what this movie is about, >> right? Yeah.

[01:10:51]>> Yeah. Then they go find the gun runner.

[01:10:53]And it's a good thing it was a gun runner so that Mando could find his ambent pulse rifle.

[01:10:58]>> Yes. This made me so mad. And thank goodness Mando's still carrying those disintegration rounds on his person.

[01:11:05]>> I hadn't thought about that until you brought this up. I'm like, "Yep, it's a good thing."

[01:11:09]>> Yep. He's got them. Never know when he might need another disintegration round.

[01:11:14]>> Yep.

[01:11:14]>> Yeah.

[01:11:14]>> And you have that line. And it's like there's not even really a climax of this movie cuz he's just like, "Hey, >> do we go do we run or do we go fight >> cuz we're going to be looking over our shoulders our whole lives."

[01:11:24]>> But, you know, they were looking over their shoulder for literally the first two seasons of the show.

[01:11:28]>> Yeah.

[01:11:28]>> Yeah.

[01:11:29]>> Cuz you know, Grou is the most important baby in the galaxy.

[01:11:31]>> Exactly.

[01:11:38]>> So, anyway, they decided they're going to fight.

[01:11:40]>> They're going to go blow up the Huts.

[01:11:41]Okay.

[01:11:41]>> Yes. The Huts are gangsters. I do like that that that line was essentially there because that's one of my favorite lines from Phantom Menace.

[01:11:48]>> Yeah. The huts a gangster.

[01:11:49]>> The huts a gangsters. I do like that that essentially was said in this movie.

[01:11:52]>> Yeah.

[01:11:53]>> So, we get we're going to go fight.

[01:11:54]>> Yeah. We're going to go fight >> and that they do. There's not really any nuance to this. They just fight. There's no like special thing.

[01:12:00]>> No.

[01:12:00]>> Go help Rada. Which ain't that stupid?

[01:12:03]They were going to kill Rada. They're like, "No, actually, we're going to tickle his brain instead."

[01:12:06]>> Yeah.

[01:12:07]>> Just so he can fight in the final fight.

[01:12:09]>> Yeah. And I'll tell you what, I felt like that all the fights before this at least seemed competent, but my goodness, all three of them fighting together.

[01:12:19]>> Yes.

[01:12:20]>> Did you get Transformers vibes >> where it's just like it just cuz they're dark, the background's dark.

[01:12:28]>> The lighting was terrible in this scene.

[01:12:30]>> I was going to say it just looks like a CGI mess just rolling around. I can't tell who's who. I don't even care that much.

[01:12:38]>> Yeah. Like I'm just like, dude, I'm so checked out right now. This was this was the point when I really really started checking out.

[01:12:45]>> This was funny you say that. We're we're on the same page today. Look at >> Maybe we are.

[01:12:49]>> Look at us.

[01:12:51]>> Look at that.

[01:12:52]>> Love the handshakes recently. What's going on there?

[01:12:54]>> I don't know, man.

[01:12:55]>> Uh this was the moment for me where I kept holding on to hope. I ke it similar to Rise of Skywalker. Actually, I had a similar experience in that movie where like I kept going like there's got to there's something there's something here. There's got to be something here.

[01:13:06]>> There's something coming. This was the moment for me. It was a shot. It was like an overhead shot of all three huts rolling around and I'm like, >> "No, this sucks. I'm sorry."

[01:13:14]>> Yeah, >> this is terrible.

[01:13:16]>> Yeah, >> there's really nothing more to this movie.

[01:13:18]>> When you couple that then with like Mando and Embo fighting and like again it's dark and I'm like I just don't care. You got Grou dealing with Kyber.

[01:13:29]>> That's the only thing that works for me a little bit here.

[01:13:32]>> You know, in hindsight it feels like so like a weird choice. They don't name him.

[01:13:38]>> No, >> he's just there. It's like if you if you know, you know, I guess.

[01:13:41]>> And here's the other thing, though, too, is like there's at least some consequences for Boba Fett's actions in the original trilogy.

[01:13:48]>> Yeah.

[01:13:49]>> He just leaves to fight another day.

[01:13:50]>> Yeah. To pop up in something else.

[01:13:52]>> Yeah. It's weird. It's really weird.

[01:13:54]>> Yeah.

[01:13:55]>> I I do want to give credit though to the fight with the two droids before they go in. That is a slick fight, >> dude. That's so cool. But again, using the stop motion.

[01:14:02]>> Again, it feels like a demo reel. This whole thing feels like a demo reel. It's like, "Hey, Phil Tippet, you design a fight scene. Uh, Latifah and and Brendan, you guys design a little fight scene here, and we're just going to loosely string everything." It'll all make sense in the edit.

[01:14:14]>> That's what it feels like.

[01:14:15]>> Yeah. I mean, we should say that, you know, the what happened to the huts before that.

[01:14:19]>> Oh, yeah. They got eaten.

[01:14:20]>> Yeah. They get eaten by the big snake and but, you know, Grou lifts up Rada and then yet again, you know, not more than 20 minutes ago, Mando goes, "You guys run. I got this." He does that literally three times in this movie. He tells Grou and the Enzelons to leave. He also again tells Grou and the Enzelons to leave. Then he tells Rada and Grou to leave.

[01:14:41]>> Get out of here. Yeah. Go. Go on. Get Go on. Get >> And like him lifting Rada is a cool moment, don't get me wrong. But I feel like he did that in episode two of the Mandalorian where he lifted a mud horn.

[01:14:51]It's like probably about the same. They weigh about the same, I'm sure. Maybe close to it.

[01:14:55]>> Rod is all muscle, >> but this feels like a big climactic moment for Grou. Yeah.

[01:14:59]>> I'm like, you already done this. I don't know. Like it this doesn't do it. This isn't a moment where I'm like, "Wow, Grou's come a long way."

[01:15:06]>> Yeah.

[01:15:06]>> I'm like, "You did this in the second episode of the show."

[01:15:09]>> Again, everything that happens in this movie is done better in the show.

[01:15:12]>> Just a recycled idea.

[01:15:13]>> Yep.

[01:15:14]>> The X-wings come in and I This is another bizarre choice for me because they just start blowing stuff up. It's not a rescue mission. They just start torching stuff. And now you >> you find out later in the movie that they actually betrayed the New Republic.

[01:15:28]So, like they have a little bit of >> reason to do this. But her first thing she says in the movie, it's about preventing another war. Yeah.

[01:15:34]>> It's like, "You just blew up the Hut's White House."

[01:15:37]>> I stole this joke from Twitter and I thought it was so funny. This is what I named in my notes, the section. I named it nuking the White House. It's like, you're really trying to prevent another war. War, Colonel Ward.

[01:15:49]>> Yeah.

[01:15:49]>> Yeah. And this is where the cameos go a little too far with the directors.

[01:15:52]>> Mhm.

[01:15:52]>> A deli squad can't be anything other than that because they're just they're just cameos of directors. Again, it's cool. I would have preferred it just stayed to that scene of them all at the table. Yeah, >> I like seeing Doug Chang. I like seeing Deborah Chow. I like see Dave Fona.

[01:16:03]>> It's cool to see Carson though.

[01:16:05]>> Yeah, he he's fine. Keep him in there because >> he should be in everything. That's the whole thing.

[01:16:09]>> He's a member of that that crew.

[01:16:11]>> Well, and then also just the fact that he's kind of like the glue that like kind of ties everything all together cuz like he's in Mando, he's in Book of Boba Fett, he's in Ahsoka. So, it's like it's cool.

[01:16:20]>> Would it be wild if Red Five was down there? If like Luke was just part of the squad like they don't even do anything.

[01:16:24]It's just a little talking head like on your on your tail red leader.

[01:16:27]>> Yeah. I I had wondered >> I I wouldn't want that to be clear.

[01:16:31]>> Would it take you out if the Falcon was there?

[01:16:33]>> Yes.

[01:16:34]>> What if the ghost was there?

[01:16:35]>> What do you mean in the fight?

[01:16:37]>> In the fight?

[01:16:38]>> Yeah. Now, if you see them parked on a deli >> Yeah.

[01:16:40]>> I thought that would have been cool.

[01:16:42]>> Yeah.

[01:16:42]>> But they're part of that fight. Yeah.

[01:16:43]I'd be >> I mean, I don't need them talking. But like >> Yeah. Even if they're just there of the, you know, the Falcon guns and everything.

[01:16:50]>> It would have taken me out of it. I think it would have too much cuz then I've been like, it's just there. You're not going to do anything with that.

[01:16:55]Okay.

[01:16:55]>> I was just curious. They rescue Mando.

[01:16:57]He gets back and then another recycled scene. Rod is like, "Your dad's one of the good guys." Pat, pat. Like, you said that earlier.

[01:17:04]>> You did.

[01:17:05]>> You You patted him on the head, too.

[01:17:06]>> I know. It's weird. Again, it makes me feel like this was part of an unused script for the show where you would do that in a show because enough time would pass because you'd have time passing between the weeks and stuff like that.

[01:17:21]So, you could have him pat him again on the head. But, you know what? It doesn't work in a 2 and 1 half hour long movie.

[01:17:25]Yeah.

[01:17:26]>> It just doesn't because he did that an hour and a half ago. In fact, I remember that.

[01:17:31]>> And then they just get the razor crest and leave.

[01:17:33]>> Yep. But Grou gets to go to hyperspace.

[01:17:35]>> He does.

[01:17:36]>> Yeah. At least Rada is featured in the two worst Star Wars film outings.

[01:17:44]>> True. True.

[01:17:45]>> Yep.

[01:17:46]>> So, there we go. That's The Mandalorian and Grou.

[01:17:49]>> Yeah.

[01:17:50]>> Kind of coming out of this review on a sad whimper because Well, there you go.

[01:17:53]That's kind of the story of the movie.

[01:17:55]Yeah.

[01:17:55]>> I want Star Wars to be better. I want to call it out when I don't think it's good and I'll praise it when it is good. And I think it's kind of nice that we've had Shadow Lord and this back to back.

[01:18:04]>> Yeah.

[01:18:04]>> And >> it's very similar. We went in kind of similar ideas cuz it's like >> we went into M Shadow Lord thinking is this really necessary? We went into this movie thinking is it really necessary?

[01:18:15]>> Yes. On one, no on the other.

[01:18:16]>> I was going to say there are inside you there are two wolves.

[01:18:19]>> Inside you there are two. There's Maro and Kyber and they're fighting for the screen.

[01:18:24]>> It's true.

[01:18:26]>> I'm disappointed that this had to be some negative. I don't know. I don't like doing that. I want to be more hot on Star Wars. I was hoping this was going to be a really fun adventure.

[01:18:34]>> Uh I wasn't expecting a New Hope. I wasn't expecting, you know, the next big thing. But I was hoping this was going to be a competent story.

[01:18:42]>> Were you hoping at least a skeleton crew?

[01:18:45]>> Yeah, I was. I was hoping at least a skeleton crew. Mhm.

[01:18:48]>> And this felt like corporate slop meant to get you get your butt in the seat and me to take you to Burger King, get you to buy Kroger Rubik's Cube.

[01:18:58]>> Yeah.

[01:18:58]>> You know, and I don't like that.

[01:19:00]>> I don't like being manipulated in that way. And uh I guess it's not even that.

[01:19:05]I just I don't mind being manipulated in that way if the product's good and it's not good this time.

[01:19:09]>> Yeah.

[01:19:10]>> So, there you go. Probably my least favorite Star Wars movie as well.

[01:19:14]>> Ditto know. And >> at least the others have something to say.

[01:19:17]>> Yeah.

[01:19:18]>> Maybe Clone Wars. It's fighting for the Clone Wars movie.

[01:19:20]>> Maybe. Yeah.

[01:19:21]>> Yes.

[01:19:22]>> So maybe uh I I will say this as a as a as a silver lining. I think this was the last hold out from the old Disney regime, you know, the Bob Iger. I'm hoping going forward we have a little bit more intentionality, which is what it seems like. We're there's not a million live action stuff that's been announced. All we know that's coming.

[01:19:40]Ahsoka season 2.

[01:19:41]>> There's your live action show. Maul Shadow Lord season two. There's your animation. Star Fighter >> and then Jedi is coming at some point.

[01:19:49]>> Yeah, but Visions is in its like own bag. So, yeah, we know that's coming too soon.

[01:19:53]>> I'm excited for the future despite all this. I'm excited for the future of Star Wars. I'm hoping that this was kind of the the last whimper of an old age.

[01:20:00]>> Mhm.

[01:20:01]>> And now we're into a new era.

[01:20:03]>> Yes. A new hope, if you will.

[01:20:05]>> Um, yeah. I'm I'm pumped to still watch Ahsoka. I want to see what they can cook up.

[01:20:10]>> Let us know, guys. Were we off base on this one? Did you like the Mandalorian and Grou? I noticed that a lot of you guys responded. I put a put a thing up on Instagram. It was about half and half, but I didn't see anything above an eight. Uh saw some people giving it a seven and eight. A lot of people giving a five and below. So, I thought that was pretty interesting. So, I got a feeling a lot of the folks are going to maybe be on our side on this one, but if you're not, I would very much like to hear what you liked about The Mandalorian and Grou in the comments down below. Otherwise, guys, we got a lot more stuff coming your way. This is exciting. I know new Star Wars is a fun time, but we have some fun on the off season cuz then we just get to we get to get in the kitchen.

[01:20:47]>> I was about to say, man, we get to go beyond.

[01:20:50]>> Yeah, >> we have some fun stuff planned. So, stick around. You know, we got those tier lists cooking. We know we got other reviews, Star Wars content, some non-S Star Wars content. So, otherwise, guys, we're going to see you next time.

[01:21:02]This is the way.

[01:21:07]Heat.

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