Stargate Science

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[00:02:47]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, so what I was saying is two episodes back, thank you for the subh hot dog wizard. Um, two episodes back we recorded the science of Star Wars and uh I have gotten uh more than five comments on how Jedi have nothing to do with hyperspace lanes. And look folks, there is more content for the Star Wars universe out there than just the TV shows and the movies. There's there's like comic books and book books and and it's it's a universe.

[00:03:34]And according to canon, Jedi pathfinders aided in the creation of hyperlanes which require the removal of gravitational anomalies. And you have to have the capacity to remove the gravitational anomalies before you can have the hyperlane.

[00:03:58]So, yes, Jedi Pathfinders were part of creating the mapped hyperlanes. All right, I'm off my soap box now.

[00:04:08]>> You were on a soap box, >> or at least on a Minecraft chair.

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[00:04:45]So, my day is my day is very busy, but that's because I'm uh flying out on Tuesday. So, I got to get I got to get it done. Um, oh, someone I used a term in one of my podcasts and someone was like, I don't know what that means. So, if I say that there's like a big schwack of something, does that do you know what that means?

[00:05:07]>> A big amount.

[00:05:08]>> Yeah. A big quant a large quantity. A swack.

[00:05:11]>> Yeah. And a snirt is a very small amount.

[00:05:13]>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. Now, I wonder if you just got that from your Canadian husband or whether >> snirt I got from my grandmother, >> right? But the but but I wonder if swack. Okay. Anyway, uh someone I used it and and someone was like, "What does swack mean? I've never heard that word before." And I'm like, "Is that is that just a Western Canadian thing?" And it might be. So, yeah. Yeah. There's, you know, these these little sayings. I always say that, you know, my wife is American and so we're constantly finding little sayings that >> toque is the one that that No, it's a ski cap.

[00:05:47]>> Scoot.

[00:05:48]>> Oh, scoot.

[00:05:51]>> Not scoot. Torque toque.

[00:05:53]>> Touque. Oh, a toque. Yes. Yeah. Touque.

[00:05:56]Yeah. Yeah. Touque is a You guys call it a or you guys call it a beanie.

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[00:06:00]>> Yeah. Um and and giver give her is to like apply gas like go for it. Giver give her >> No, that one.

[00:06:12]>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's definitely Western Canadian.

[00:06:15]>> Stop driving Canadian is a phrase that exists.

[00:06:19]>> We don't have that here. Uh you you can go for a rip though, >> which is that you know you just like rip around.

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[00:06:29]>> Yeah. Hoops.

[00:06:30]>> Okay.

[00:06:30]>> Is that a thing? Hooped.

[00:06:32]Do you guys know what hooped means?

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[00:06:38]>> Oh, okay. Good. All right. Interesting.

[00:06:40]Yeah. You're boned. You're you're uh you are you are on the path to ruin. Yeah.

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[00:07:10]>> Okay. Astronomy cast episode 794, the science of Stargate. Welcome to Astronomycast, our weekly facts based journey through the cosmos, where we help you understand not only what we know, but how we know what we know. I'm Frisercane. I'm the publisher of Universe Today. With me as always is Dr. for Pamela Gay, a senior scientist for the Planetary Science Institute and the director of CosmicQuest. Hey Pamela, how you doing?

[00:07:32]>> I am particularly well because I've been brought a 44 oz cranberry slushie. So, I'm going to be getting progressively more uh sugar high throughout.

[00:07:44]>> Fantastic. Yeah.

[00:07:45]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:07:46]>> Yeah. So, you won't hear all of the breaks that we take as Pamela goes to the bathroom, but you know, just assume they will have happened. 44 ounces. I don't even know what that is in in millimeters. Uh, but that's a milliliters. That's a lot. Um, all right. We continue our ad hoc miniseries through sci-fi franchises. This week, we'll talk about Stargate, wormholes, mind parasites, and self-replicating bots. There's a lot to talk about, but first, it's time for a break.

[00:08:15]And we're back. All right. Stargate.

[00:08:17]Now, this is objectively the best sci-fi series. So I just, you know, I need to I need to put my and like I'm not just saying it's my favorite. I'm saying that it's objectively the best that in a court of law it would stand up. People would make their case and in the end surate would win. I'm just I broke no argument from anyone. That is just the truth, the reality. This is the universe that we live in, the Stargate universe.

[00:08:46]Obviously, you know, people will give me uh grief to that. They'll send emails.

[00:08:50]send your emails to Pamela at no star strat. No. Um, no. Uh, well, so let's just start with the big one with the Stargate universe, and that of course is the Stargates themselves. What is the science of what they're doing in Stargate? So, in theory, there are a series of rings that if you put in the correct number of lockedin runes, will allow you to travel to a matching gate in our galaxy. Or or if you figure out how to enter even more runes, >> Mhm. You can travel with added energy >> to another universe. Thus, Atlantis, >> other galaxy.

[00:09:44]>> Other galaxy. That's what I meant to say.

[00:09:46]>> Yeah, they're not another universe.

[00:09:46]They're in another galaxy. I think Andromeda. I haven't. So, we're re-watching Stargate right now, my wife and I. And so, we're into season 7 right now. So, we're we're pretty deep in the rewatch. And again, I'm like I'm really enjoying going back and re-watching shows that I know that I love, but it's been so long that I actually don't remember the det. It is literally a new show to me. Every episode I'm like, I don't remember this. I don't remember that. I don't remember this episode. We just watched Dark City >> and that I mostly remembered the movie and we just watched the Iron Giant and I mostly remembered that movie. But with the Stargate episodes, each one like I know that the the highlevel stuff, who the people are, who the factions are, who some of the main characters are. But the but the episodes, I I am as shocked and surprised when the twist is revealed as I as I was when I first watched the show, which is such a wonderful feeling.

[00:10:40]>> It is >> when you realize that you can now just go back and rewatch your entire uh media library. Everything you've ever loved is all there waiting for you to be watched again. So, okay. So what so what is the physics principle that is connecting these stargates together?

[00:10:59]>> So the the idea is that you can and this breaks the physics you can connect two points together using a wormhole through basically an extra dimension >> right the Einstein Rosen bridge. Now the problem is that mathematically those suckers become super unstable the moment any mass enters them which makes it really hard to travel from one point to another through them.

[00:11:31]>> Right.

[00:11:32]>> Um so yeah that's that that's slightly >> but in right and we've mentioned this in a previous episode like a long long time ago when you would sort of allow us to talk about this subject. I believe it was nonsense that needs to be debunked.

[00:11:48]Um but uh but in that Einstein Rosen they came up with the math for how this would work. But the downsides are as you said that if any actual matter or energy is in there then the thing immediately collapses. But you know we've seen the the classic examples in interstellar and all that where you take a piece of paper you draw the two locations and then you fold it over and you punch right through. Boom. These places are connected. And so theoretically, there's some factory, some wormhole factory that the ancients are building and then they're putting them on spaceships and then they're taking these these wormholes to various locations around the galaxy and so that then you can activate them in the wormhole network and be able to >> It's even wilder than that because each point is is connected to all the other coordinates. So it feels much more like they're able to generate wormholes, >> right, >> that go from one point to the other. So >> as opposed to having the kind of wormholes like this is a really cool idea that you if you could make a stable wormhole, >> you could take one half of the wormhole, put it on a spacecraft, go close to the speed of light, and you have made a time machine, >> right?

[00:13:01]>> Because the different sides of the wormhole have experienced different amounts of time. And so you will go through one at the local time and then you will pop out of the other at the local time for the wormhole. And so theoretically you can have a time machine in >> those two places, >> right? The light has it. You're you're being transmitted instantly through these >> through a distortion in spaceime. So >> the the idea was around of course these are in Star Trek as well. I mean we didn't even bring this up and think about Deep Space 9. I'm sure they're in Star Wars or I mean that's kind of what the hyperlane >> so hyperl in the last season of Ahsoka they have the ability with extra power to get >> right the space whales go with the space whales to another galaxy >> right and and uh this is where I I will die on the hill that that the uh The Night Sisters are actually Benny Jesuit.

[00:14:05]But um >> Yeah.

[00:14:07]>> Did Did you just cross the streams?

[00:14:09]>> I did. I did.

[00:14:10]>> Okay.

[00:14:11]>> Um Yeah. But >> as opposed to them just stealing a a a cool idea.

[00:14:16]>> Mhm.

[00:14:17]>> Okay.

[00:14:17]>> I'm just going to cross the streams.

[00:14:19]>> Yep. Okay. Okay. Um, so, so then if you don't have a wormhole, if if if you don't have a Stargate and a and a DHD, a dial home device at the planet that you're attempting to reach, you can use a spacecraft.

[00:14:33]>> And and this this is a two-part system where you have the Stargate, then you have the control thing that causes the different ringy bits to move and lock in the different runes. Now the wormhole is generated by the ring thing and so you can replace the control system. So the control system is just like your remote basically.

[00:14:59]>> Yeah.

[00:15:00]>> So so just to be clear. Um I don't know why I'm being so pragmatic.

[00:15:05]>> True. Um, and and yes, they do have in the Stargate universe the ability to move through space on space ships that are also capable of going fast.

[00:15:19]>> And and this is how you get the the spacecraft that land on top of the pyramids, which is really cool CGI in the Stargate movie. Um, but but the aliens in the Stargate universe are just creepy.

[00:15:38]>> We'll get we'll get we'll get to the to the life forms in a second, but but the um yeah, so so they have faster than light travel as well. And it and it's their version of hyperspace. And so you have a hyperspace drive on your spacecraft and that allows you to travel at faster than the speed of light. and you generate a hyperspace tunnel in front of you and then you enter that and and go and there's like one episode where they have where they're about to crash into the earth and realize that they can hyperspace their way through the earth which is very cool. So um and these >> it's not infinite speed. So they have the same problem as Star Trek Voyager of if you end up through some fate.

[00:16:19]>> Yeah.

[00:16:19]>> Too far away you're not getting home.

[00:16:22]No, but they they talk about say the the the Asgards, >> yes, >> living outside of the Milky Way and then whenever there's a problem, they request the Asgards and the Asgards show up almost instantaneously. So, so there is very >> different technology and differentations.

[00:16:40]>> Yeah, there is very fast move through it. Okay. Uh so then they've got a uh teleportation system which are the rings.

[00:16:48]>> Yes. And this is one of those things where you have to wonder, is this like a mini wormhole? Is this like >> It's not clear how those work, but again, they like to have things work through rings, and those are vertical rings versus >> uh they they go up and down versus standing, >> right?

[00:17:11]>> Yeah.

[00:17:12]>> Yeah. Yeah. So, you go into this this room. It's very much like the transporter of Star Trek that you go into this room, you stand in the middle, these rings pop up, >> then the rings pop up in the destination, and there you are.

[00:17:25]>> Um, and you need the rings to move between locations, which is kind of cool. So, >> you don't just randomly transport yourself to some random location.

[00:17:40]So you're exactly right of a wormhole, however.

[00:17:48]>> And we're back. All right, so let's talk about some of the the technologies that are involved in this. Um, and I think one of the main things, one essentially the main resource that everybody's fighting over in the Stargate universe is na, which is the equivalent of dith.

[00:18:04]Well, it's not exactly the same as dithium crystals, but it is it is the same pinch point of of resource that everybody is is looking for. Naqua, >> I I have to admit I never fixated on that and have no memory of anything other than it exists. So, you sir who are currently rewatching, please continue.

[00:18:24]>> So, theoretically, the Naqua is in a stable island of resources farther up the periodic table of elements. And so and this is something that we have debunked in the past but in theory this is just like another element that you can mine I guess in the same way you can mine ditherum crystals and that it it produces an enormous amount of energy like a fision reactor and that that and that that is what is needed to power hyperspace drives to power uh the stargates and so on. And then there is this unstable version of it called an quadria which has been found on this one planet and that is used but it is is unstable and so it has unpredictable results and that is the power source that the um that humans use in their spaceships is the nuadri because they have a source for this stuff but a lot of the conflict between the the empires in Stargate over planets that have nakoda that they're then trying to mine.

[00:19:26]and subjugate the the people who who live there and and so on. Um they have a lot of other technologies that are kind of related. They have uh this zero point energy as another kind of reactor. They have antimatter reactors which and they have a lot of stuff that the that the Asgards use.

[00:19:44]>> So they're they're able to um >> so let's back up and unpack some of these ideas. So, so backing first up to the island of stability, >> there is when when you look at our periodic table, there's the main chunk at the top that those are verily stable.

[00:20:06]Then there's all the stuff down at the bottom. Those those are not stable.

[00:20:11]Those like a >> amaresium.

[00:20:15]>> Yes, thank you. uh is is very unstable, which has a lot of ironies in 2026.

[00:20:22]Um and and so as we're going through figuring out how to bombard the cores of atoms with protons uh or neutrons and get them to move up to heavier and heavier things that don't tend to hang around, there is this idea that you can get back to some place where you've added enough to the core that it's able to hold itself together because of the geome geometry. Now, um, so far we haven't been able to get close enough to prove or disprove this idea.

[00:21:01]>> Um, but the fact that we never find any of this in the universe and supernovi are a thing has a lot of people thinking >> it doesn't actually exist or we would have found it by now. Yeah, nature has provided a particle accelerator capable of fashioning elements with an enormous number of protons and neutrons and we have not found them. That that a colliding neutron stars is so much more energetic than anything humanity can possibly offer. And yet and we know that the Earth has many of the elements that came from colliding neutron stars. And yet we don't find anything beyond the the table of elements as we see it.

[00:21:45]>> Okay. So that was concept one that you just kind of rolled over.

[00:21:49]>> Yes. Zero point >> zero point energy is this idea that our universe hasn't actually like gotten to the lowest allowable energy. So, if you think of that model you got for an atom when you were in high school, where electrons can jump up to a variety of different energy levels and then they decay down to lower energies until they get back down to that base energy.

[00:22:16]Well, we're we're up the idea is that we're not at the base. We're up at like two or maybe higher. and it is collapses to lower energies that perhaps were responsible for the epic of inflation.

[00:22:33]Um it could also like do very violent things to all the rules of physics in our universe as we know it know it if we actually undergo a zero point collapse.

[00:22:43]So uh hopefully that's not a thing. Um but the idea is our universe isn't at the lowest stable energy point and has further it can collapse to. And then antimatter reactors, I think it's relatively straightforward.

[00:22:58]>> Yeah, that's matter. Antimatter, they annihilate when mixed correctly.

[00:23:03]>> Yep. Uh so let's talk about the weapons.

[00:23:06]Uh you know, Tilk is has this energy weapon.

[00:23:10]>> Yeah.

[00:23:11]>> The staff weapon. It's feels like it's relatively straightforward. You know, shoots a bolt out of the end of the weapon.

[00:23:17]>> It's a bolt of energy. It's it's just a pulse. It's the same annoyance you get in pretty much every other season series of wait, how are we able to watch something that should be traveling at the speed of light move across the room?

[00:23:30]But there we are.

[00:23:32]>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe it's not moving the speed of light. It's a blob of energized plasma.

[00:23:36]>> I mean, it will have mass if it's electricity. So maybe it's a blob of slowmoving electrons.

[00:23:42]>> And then the other weapon that they have is it's called the Zat gun or the Zatnika.

[00:23:47]And it is the it's the little one that kind of pops open and then they it's their it's their version of the phaser.

[00:23:53]And so uh one hit stuns, two hits kills, and three hits disintegrates is the is the rules of the universe. And so >> instead of setting your thing at stun or kill, you can just hit them once with it and they pass out.

[00:24:08]>> But if you hit them twice, >> then you kill them.

[00:24:12]>> Don't do that.

[00:24:13]>> And I don't know what they're >> hide the body easily enough.

[00:24:16]>> Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what the Well, yeah. So, if you do need to, then you just vaporize them with the third hit and they just disappear. So, they go through they go through through that.

[00:24:23]And again, uh I mean, however these things work, they are clearly somehow messing with your nervous system. Electricity, you know, your nervous system runs on electricity. So there's some kind of squishy biology explanation for how this all >> but it doesn't leave the same wild scarring that that getting struck by lightning does. So >> at least there's that positive.

[00:24:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so you know the question I always have is like what's the time frame that if you you hit a person once like cuz all the main characters have been hit by these zat guns multiple times. So is it just like once in your life? No, obviously not. Is it once in a day? I I I it's probably like getting a sunburn.

[00:25:06]>> Yeah. You know what I mean? Like you can be out in the sun for whatever half an hour and then you'll start to burn or 10 minutes or whatever is the number. But then how long of a break do you need before you can then go back out into the sun for 10 minutes? Is it the next day?

[00:25:18]Is it the same day? Do you have to wait an hour? What is the what is the what is the delay for being out in the in direct sunlight for >> the rate at which the energy dissipates?

[00:25:27]I guess >> so it does it depend on if you're surrounded by an insulating material or on something conductive.

[00:25:35]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but they're very handy weapons. Um, and then of course you have uh shields both on the spacecraft and personal shields for the for the ghouls, which we're going to get to. And again, I think we've, >> you know, we kind of covered shields in >> Star Trek, >> both Star Trek and probably Star Wars.

[00:25:57]So, you know, same same thing, some kind of electromagnetic shield that you are putting around yourself that is redirecting harmful energy away from you.

[00:26:09]>> And and I have to just put out a congratulations to the folks over in the YouTube chat who can spell the things in the Stargate universe correctly.

[00:26:19]>> This is just confirmation of of what I of what I said. All right, we're going to now move on to the biology of things, but it is time for another break. And we're back. All right, so so one thing I don't think you were sort of expecting this, but one thing that I really like is that almost all of the entities that they interact with are human beings.

[00:26:42]They all speak English, which you know is obviously a problem. Um, but they all are transported from Earth.

[00:26:50]>> Yes. two different locations, which is such a it's such a cool idea that all this mythology that all of these, >> you know, are the gu and that you have this migration across the galaxy because these people have been taken to these worlds and set up essentially slaves.

[00:27:06]>> That idea is in Star Trek, just to be clear, that there there was the elder race that that it transported human beings and plopped them down in different places.

[00:27:19]>> Right. Right. And that's why Vulcans kind of and Romulons and everybody kind of looks the same.

[00:27:26]>> No, it's there's actual humans on other worlds that were put there by this race.

[00:27:31]I've forgotten the name of that I think it's the same race that holds the uh uh there's this place that they're absolutely not allowed to fight. It's the glowing light organisms. I think their name begins with the letter O and that's not useful >> in in Stargate. in Star Trek. So in Star Trek. Okay.

[00:27:51]>> Yeah. Both Star Trek and Stargate.

[00:27:53]>> There is a white glowing thing in Stargate called the Orai.

[00:27:56]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, so both of them have that idea that there were ancient humans that were used to seed life on other worlds. This is why in the original Star Trek, you end up with the the planet that has the Native American population, >> but Stargate does it in in a much cooler way where the origin of so many different myths that involve humanlike gods. So, the Egyptian gods, the Viking gods, or I guess Norse is the correct phrase, the Norse gods, the um Greek gods.

[00:28:35]>> They go through them all like Chinese mythology, Japanese mythology. Yeah.

[00:28:39]They pull all of this mythology and then each one of these is actually a system lord, one of the the big bad the world, which we're going to get to in a second.

[00:28:47]>> Um that are running portions of the galaxy and fighting with each other. And essentially they use the humans as their slave shock troops and put them to work and brainwash them and make them think that that these are their gods. But in fact, Earth is the is the heart is is the original place because, you know, people always ask me this question, how how do we know that we're that humans didn't come from another planet? Well, we can trace our ancestors back to the to the very first life form on Earth. We know we evolved Yeah.

[00:29:18]>> on Earth.

[00:29:22]So let's talk about the science fiction.

[00:29:24]>> Let's talk about the ghouls.

[00:29:27]>> So So the ghoul goo the word you just said correctly.

[00:29:32]>> The gua guilds or the ghouls as uh as General Hammond will call them the ghouls.

[00:29:39]>> Um the the idea is they are a parasitic life form that goes through multiple phases. They are largely aquatic. They go from being in basically the ponds that they're reproduced in, pools, whatever. Um, to taking over uh human hosts where they live uh in the gut. Um, and when they're juvenile, they uh they support their life form, but they don't take over its brain. Mhm.

[00:30:16]>> Now the problem is these are life forms that are fully capable of um joining forces with uh the human nervous system.

[00:30:29]And so very much like the trill in Star Trek, you end up with life forms that are a joining between the parasite and its ego and the human being.

[00:30:44]The trill do not generally go read books. Um take over and control the human. The gu the word you can say >> the guard.

[00:30:58]Yeah.

[00:30:58]>> Uh they their raise on debt is apparently to take over.

[00:31:04]>> Yes.

[00:31:05]>> The the human being and make it their own.

[00:31:09]>> And these are life forms that also have extra energy. So they can like cause glowing eyes, um >> fast rapid healing.

[00:31:18]>> Yeah.

[00:31:19]>> Yeah. Strength, >> intelligence, things like that.

[00:31:23]>> So it it's one of these things where it's good to live forever, but a whole lot not if you're the host, >> right? Yes. Yeah. Um yeah. I mean, the idea of a parasite, I mean, this is this has its place in in science. I mean, we see was it the cortiseps, which is a kind of fungi that will take an ant, >> take an ant's brain, have it force it to climb to the top of the tallest plant that it can find, and then ex and then die and extend the fruing bodies of the cortiseps to then allow um you know it to be able to replicate itself >> or uh in theory. There's a lot of parasites that do things that get the host body consumed or take it to life forces or >> isn't there one like the one in in cat litter that makes mice uh be more brave and >> and that causes them to get eaten and >> and so the idea that there are life forms out there capable of taking over hosts by affecting their neurochemistry is a known thing. There are zombie funguses. There are >> parasites that will replace a fish's tongue.

[00:32:44]>> That Yeah, that's a real thing, people.

[00:32:47]There is a parasite that eats the tongue and then becomes the tongue so that it can aid in eating >> and get the first bite. Yeah, it's crazy.

[00:32:58]>> Um, >> so gross. It's so awful. Okay. My stomach has literally just gone.

[00:33:05]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the but it's a great idea that you by by by having the the young gestate inside the bodies of the warriors.

[00:33:18]>> You and and essentially supplying their nervous.

[00:33:22]>> Yeah. You're you are supplying their uh immune system. And so they are completely reliant on this. They cannot escape if they wanted to. They have to >> yeah once their immune system has changed there's no going back. So so you can replace the parasite inside someone which happens to teal of course.

[00:33:41]>> Um but you can't turn them back normal.

[00:33:46]Now there is a cast of the word you can say and I can't that uh >> thera. Yeah.

[00:33:54]>> Yeah. the the >> good ones, right? The good guys >> that that believe that they can uh coexist, more like the trill do um and share the body in a mutually supportive way. Um yeah, there's lots of really cool stuff that goes on.

[00:34:12]>> Yeah, totally. Totally. Um, so and then the other thing is the ancients, >> which were the people that made the Stargate network. Yeah. And and sort of one of the things that you you learn is that the ancients left technology strewn around kind of like roadside picnic. And so then it's up to humanity to sort of go through the Stargate to find these little bits and pieces of ancient technology and then try to use this to defend against the the gold. And then, you know, in Atlantis, they realize there's a whole ancient city in another galaxy and and and so on. But the the the sort of thing that does show up quite a bit is that there are these transcended um oh, I forget what they call them. Uh but essentially, they've ascended, right? These ascended beings and and this is something that happens to Daniel Jackson for a for half a season. Yeah.

[00:35:05]when I think the actor wanted to take some time off of the show and so they replaced him with Cormick and then he he came back um at the end of the season >> there there's also an interesting Easter egg it's not an Easter egg there's an interesting side thing to note where the actor who plays Daniel Jackson starts out looking very much like you would expect a classroom and laboratory archaeologist to look just a little bit like clearly not working out all the time. Um, and then, uh, at one point he comes back super buff and >> he's working out.

[00:35:42]>> Well, so he went off and he filmed an action adventure movie, >> right?

[00:35:46]>> So that's what happened. It's the actor filmed an action adventure movie >> and ended up with a completely different physique as a result. So, >> right, >> that's fun to watch.

[00:35:59]>> Um, and and so the there's one race in this, the Asgard.

[00:36:04]>> Yes. who are the little gray guys.

[00:36:06]>> The little gray guys. Yeah. Which is so great, right? That they are the the perfect gray aliens. And so they have been messing with humanity for forever, but they're essentially the protectors of of humanity. But uh but the science that I find really interesting about them is that they're all clones.

[00:36:20]>> Yes. And that's actually also a problem for them.

[00:36:23]>> Right. Right. They suffer this problem that that they're getting this genetic degradation over time because of their reliance on cloning.

[00:36:31]>> Yeah. And and it's one of these things where they didn't have to clone. They just like you see in other science fiction stories somewhere along the line it was just like this is a better way to do things and the idea of having sex is yiky. And so they're trying to figure out how to change their ways to save their species. And um and then there's also the the replicants.

[00:36:56]>> The replicators. Yeah.

[00:36:57]>> Yeah. They're kind of like the perfect evil doer. Um they are like if Minecraft used nano de nano bricks to attack. Um just like they have the ability to use everything around them to convert it into machinery and and it's wild the way they just like take over everything.

[00:37:23]>> Yeah. They're kind of like the Borg.

[00:37:24]>> Yeah. But the Borg uh don't consume matter and recycle it into robots the same way, >> right? Yeah. They keep them looking peopleike as opposed to they just consume everything down to the atomic level and then put it back together in in a form. Yeah. I really dislike the replicators. the whole storyline, the whole implementation of it. I really every time the replicators are on the show, my wife and I, we just groan and roll our eyes and puff through it because I just I really don't like it.

[00:37:55]They're they're not an interesting enemy to me. Um and and the story lines aren't that aren't that interesting. Although this kind of and and they knew that and >> the CGI was good though.

[00:38:06]>> Yeah. I don't want to sort of spoil where they go with the story line, but but in the end it's actually quite a very emotional uh brutal ending to the Replicators. Um, cool. Well, so there's a lot of other stuff. Um, >> life is short.

[00:38:22]>> I made a list beforehand. They've got communication systems. They've got sensors.

[00:38:27]>> Uh, but yeah, I think that's all >> Jason Mamoa.

[00:38:30]>> Yeah, right. Jason Mamoa. little little baby Jason Mamoa early on in in Stargate Atlantis and then Stargate Universe I mean used a lot of the same technology and it's an ancient ship that's moving from star system to star system. They only had two seasons of it. I love >> it too. Yeah, it's really too bad. So, uh I think hopefully apparently they're working on a new new versions of Stargate. So hopefully we'll see something show up in our lives.

[00:38:59]It's it is amazing. And um yeah, it it also just like the the social stuff they get like the way human beings human really really good in the in the series.

[00:39:14]So >> yeah. Yeah. I mean I think I like there's a level of humor and >> Yes. and and people not taking themselves as seriously in Stargate that I just like I there's a charm to it.

[00:39:29]>> Yes.

[00:39:29]>> That they just don't have in Star Wars and Stargate and and that I don't think >> Star Trek >> Stars. Yeah. Star Wars and Star Trek.

[00:39:37]Yeah. And I just don't think that like I've never seen anything in either one of those shows that except for maybe Andor but that andor was grim and dark like and was not right but I've not seen anything that h that runs this >> I don't know this light >> it just feels very very relatable. Um, I mean, the thing that I really love about Stargate >> is how much the pieces of the puzzle come back together later on to form a larger picture that they they find a little piece of technology over here and they find a little piece of technology over there. And then you meet with the 3 years later, they call on those people because now they're an ally and they can help them out, but they can't help them out in this situation, but they can't help them out now. And then and now the humans have have figured out this technology and now they have a ship and now they have control over and now they have know how to power the wormholes and it just you get this technological progression that goes on through the 10 seasons of Stargate.

[00:40:37]>> So >> from zero from zero to humanity is on its way to becoming a Milky Way spanning civilization and it makes sense in a way that I that I haven't seen any other show tackle.

[00:40:50]There's an element of isekai to Stargate because you have the humans suddenly uh got dropped into this completely new situation where they have to figure out how to level up.

[00:41:04]>> Yes.

[00:41:04]>> And Star Trek and Star Wars don't have that.

[00:41:07]>> Yeah.

[00:41:07]>> And and so I think part of us are part of our heart is there to cheer on >> Yeah.

[00:41:14]>> Uh the Richard Dean Anderson's character who's like what is this science? I just have a gun and I want to shoot things.

[00:41:22]>> Just tell me how it works.

[00:41:23]>> Right.

[00:41:25]So I I think that bit of isekai for before that word was even something I knew existed.

[00:41:33]It just adds a completely different >> what what's the word isekai?

[00:41:37]>> It the the kind of Japanese storytelling am I mispronouncing it? where where you get dropped into uh either you're given a new magical ability, you're >> Okay. Okay. I see. I see. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:41:53]Like like the kind of things you read in light novels and stuff. Yeah.

[00:41:56]>> Right. Right.

[00:41:57]>> Lit RPG.

[00:41:58]>> Yeah. There's the lit RPG of the Roomba that gets brought into an alternate universe.

[00:42:04]>> Yep. Yeah.

[00:42:06]>> Sentient.

[00:42:07]>> All right. So again, uh best series, sci-fi series ever. Watch it. Thanks everyone. Uh thanks Pamela.

[00:42:15]>> And uh we are about to record our next episode. They will go out two weeks in a row though. So if you're listening to the podcast, this is the part where I say thank you for amusing me with your usernames because there are some amazing ones right now. And I'm sorry for how I'm about to mispronounce them.

[00:42:34]>> All right. Thanks everyone and we will see you next week.

[00:42:36]>> Bye-bye.

[00:42:39]All right. Um, I am saving saving and folks over on YouTube, you're gonna have to switch over to >> the 795 the expanse.

[00:42:55]Signs of the expanse.

[00:42:56]>> Yes. Yes. All right. I'm hitting end stream. We'll see you on the other stream.

[00:43:01]>> But we don't have to leave.

[00:43:02]>> No.

[00:43:03]>> Okay. And I'm going to write my intro cuz that's not a thing that I've done.

[00:43:09]And I'm just going to grab my outline. I have to switch my output settings. Yes, I know.