S3 EP 1: Bollywood Guilty Pleasures ft. @rajmas

[00:00:00]But he also made Mela, which I want to tell you was the first film I ever reviewed. And the fact that I could after that do 20 years, now you have to give me credit.

[00:00:07]>> Hello brother. Brother.

[00:00:10]>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:00:12]>> [laughter] >> So I like Baghban. I watch it once a month. And I really yeah, I really think they were shitty parents.

[00:00:19]>> How can you raise four [ __ ] Like what kind of what kind of parenting have you done?

[00:00:24]>> Yeah, David is the OG.

[00:00:26]>> Yeah.

[00:00:26]>> He actually had he was heavy plot.

[00:00:28]>> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:00:29]>> He was heavy plot. And like I think we had an on an older episode described it but she was like, you know, but David Dhawan characters used to constantly cheat. And I was like, no, they never cheated.

[00:00:37]>> They cheated.

[00:00:38]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, it's too good.

[00:00:50]>> The man has left Khiladi for Aruna Irani.

[00:00:53]>> [music] [laughter] >> But this was like Olympics of bad acting. Like Akshay, Shilpa, Sunil.

[00:01:07]>> Correct. The worst. The worst. The worst.

[00:01:10]>> I'm not saying the worst.

[00:01:11]>> Olympics of bad acting he SAID.

[00:01:15]>> I SAID WORST. [laughter] HE SAID OLYMPICS OF BAD ACTING.

[00:01:22]>> [music] >> OKAY, welcome to another season of the Popcorn Hour. Today we have our I don't know how to I don't know how to say it.

[00:01:34]>> Most prolific >> The most prolific guest that we've ever had in the history of our show. We have a a journalist and critic of 20 years.

[00:01:44]Uh now on the other side of the table as the COO of the largest talent management company in India, we have with us Mr. RAJIV MASAND.

[00:01:53]>> [cheering] >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, GUYS.

[00:01:55]>> YOU'RE alone in this room, so you really can't [laughter] generate that much energy.

[00:02:00]>> Thank you so much.

[00:02:01]>> Thank you, thank you for having me. I love the show. I watch I watch clips of it regularly and the episodes of of the guests that I love.

[00:02:07]So, thank you. I'm very excited. Yeah.

[00:02:11]>> I still can't believe you're here in real life.

[00:02:14]>> I will pinch myself and move on.

[00:02:16]We are so happy you're here because we've been I've played >> Yes.

[00:02:22]>> I'm so sorry.

[00:02:25]>> I I played We'll put it here.

[00:02:27]>> Yeah.

[00:02:28]>> This This is where we will edit me turning into Mr. Rajiv Masand, my career highlight in sketch comedy.

[00:02:34]>> I agree that occasionally the narrative sputters like an old car on account of stray boring scenes.

[00:02:41]>> Meeting you on the set and and not knowing what to say because I What do you say to I've never had a double. I've never had anything.

[00:02:47]>> [laughter] >> Nobody ever wanted me, let alone wanted a double. So, I'm >> Do you think that he did a good job representing you, though?

[00:02:53]>> Yeah, I feel I feel bad for him.

[00:02:56]>> [laughter] >> But, like that that that was his job for the day.

[00:02:58]>> They like I remember they did my hair up exactly like yours and it's very cute.

[00:03:02]>> [laughter] >> But, today we are here to discuss because we have a very busy man with us here today. And he told us in 65 minutes he has to leave [laughter] is what he said. So, we today we have to talk about guilty pleasures in cinema.

[00:03:14]>> Yeah.

[00:03:15]>> And to start off with, we thought let's do the basics of defining what guilt is.

[00:03:20]>> Sure.

[00:03:20]>> What what defines guilt when it comes to guilty pleasures? What What defines pleasure? We We know.

[00:03:26]>> [laughter] >> You know, I I want to I want to sort of put out a disclaimer. When you reviewed movies for a living, you know, I love to say the anagram TGIF was not invented by a film critic because [laughter] Friday Fridays was like from like 8:00 in the morning you're in the cinema watching back-to-back films. I want to say the whole idea of so bad it's good it's not really it doesn't really work for critics because it's really bad and that's your job and then you have to make sense of it and stuff. So, so I don't have that threshold for pain in the way that a lot of other people do. But but so so my guilty pleasures are the ones that probably I watched before I was a critic. The ones that I didn't necessarily review. One of the one of the ones that I'm going to pick is is one I did review because it's once a while once in a while something comes along that's just so delightfully stupid that you can't >> [laughter] >> you just can't resist. But I want to say something that so guilty pleasure for me I guess is you cannot sort of look at it from the normal parameters of sort of reviewing or or even enjoyment. Like where it's where it's unintentionally entertaining, right? So that's for me what what a guilty pleasure is.

[00:04:31]>> So it doesn't know that it's bad but it's entertaining nonetheless.

[00:04:34]>> What was guilty for you? You were telling me >> I was thinking about this. I feel like a movie that doesn't align with my value system at all but I find really funny.

[00:04:42]>> That's nice.

[00:04:44]>> Slightly like >> That you can laugh at something that is that that you know yeah.

[00:04:47]>> Which like makes me uncomfortable but I'm still laughing and my body is repulsed by my reaction but I can't help [laughter] myself. So like slightly Landa like a Landa and she movie I vibe WITH >> YOUR VALUE SYSTEM doesn't align with Landa unfortunately. That's unfortunate, yeah.

[00:05:01]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, that's my >> Uh it's it's simple. Mine is similar. I think mine is craft. If it's low on craft or it's it's not popularly liked or well reviewed that I think and and and if I like it then I will definitely if >> If he didn't like it >> and I [laughter] like it then I do it then.

[00:05:19]It's more like I have to go >> It's too many of those no there yeah.

[00:05:22]>> There were then then there there there tears. Then I go to Mr. Rangan also even if Mr. Rangan Mr. Rangan and Mr. Mr. Fari Doon Sharyar >> Oh.

[00:05:31]>> [laughter] >> That's the trifecta. The holy trifecta.

[00:05:33]The holy trifecta, you know yeah.

[00:05:35]>> August company.

[00:05:36]>> [laughter] >> Those guys still do it. I I got out.

[00:05:40]I escaped.

[00:05:41]>> But now okay no I shouldn't say that.

[00:05:43]>> Say it, please.

[00:05:43]>> I was saying you know how like now a A of film journalism is like >> [laughter] >> the Nayandeeps of the world where a lot of it is just like tell me how difficult your life is. Like all the questions are very >> Yeah, journalism has changed. I think film journalism has definitely changed.

[00:05:56]I think that and I think a lot of it has to do with sort of the fact that all of it is on on social, not even digital.

[00:06:02]It's I mean not even sort of web but but literally social. So I think that's why so much of it is sort of the performance. Even though even journalism is a performance. So you know there are journalists dancing with actors and stuff. Thank god I it happened after I got the I can't even dance if it came to it like I wouldn't have a job.

[00:06:19]>> So we're not doing the reel then.

[00:06:22]>> The whole thing I got to the the whole thing I'll shoot you I'll shoot you.

[00:06:27]>> [laughter] >> So Maddox's money has to be returned to them. We're not doing the Shahid dance today.

[00:06:32]>> Not today.

[00:06:33]>> So okay so so I I don't know >> I feel like we've defined what guilt means to each of >> So do you want to move to maybe the >> Let's get specifics. Now let's open up the specific movie.

[00:06:41]>> set of films perhaps that you have >> So the one I could >> think of immediately was Hello Brother.

[00:06:47]Do you remember >> [laughter] >> Yeah yeah >> Hello Brother Brother. So that that was Salman Khan and the funny thing is I don't think I was reviewing movies yet.

[00:06:56]I think it was I think it was 1999 and again I will say this because I've been doing it for so long and I'm old.

[00:07:04]I forget the film specifically because but I remember how they made me feel. I remember where I was and and that was a week. I remember I had conjunctivitis. My brother had conjunctivitis at home and we decided I don't know why our parents allowed us go in the afternoon at to Chandan Cinema in Juhu which sadly doesn't exist anymore. The mass theater and watch Hello Brother in the afternoon. Um and and I was a Salman Khan fan and also this is Salman when he was goofy and you know before he sort OF BECAME >> [laughter] >> SO THE FUNNY thing about Pungi is like everyone did it right in school.

[00:07:42]But it wasn't called Pungi till Hello Brother legitimized it and called it Pungi. And then it had that Reshad Khan who played Ninja Chacha.

[00:07:50]>> [laughter] >> It was So, I I remember me and my brother going with like dark glasses because we had conjunctivitis and going and [laughter] watching this film and cracking up and and and and I don't think I've seen it since and also that I think is the thing about guilty pleasures. Like either you watched it very often because it becomes that thing that you go to and it it's it's that gift that keeps on giving or the memory of loving it and enjoying it is so great that you don't want to ruin it by sort of revisiting it and feeling like No, listen it's not what it was going to be.

[00:08:18]>> So, Pungi hasn't aged very well.

[00:08:20]>> I mean, perhaps. Perhaps.

[00:08:21]>> I would have loved to watch this with a brother.

[00:08:24]It's such a [laughter] good bonding experience.

[00:08:25]>> Actually, it was I went to a boy school.

[00:08:27]The Pungi was a real menace. Our boys were constantly doing that. Yeah.

[00:08:31]>> I'm so glad to be a girl. These experiences sound [laughter] >> So, the girls didn't do it to each other, huh?

[00:08:35]>> NO, NO.

[00:08:37]>> JUST CHECKING. What is the female Pungi equivalent to this what we need to [laughter] do?

[00:08:41]>> Doesn't this movie have that gay touch?

[00:08:43]This is that one.

[00:08:44]>> Yes. Yes. Of course. Of course.

[00:08:49]>> [laughter] [laughter] >> That's what he says. This is a Marathi one.

[00:08:58]>> YEAH. YEAH. YEAH.

[00:08:59]>> I used to always say "A remoo da" OR SOMETHING.

[00:09:01]>> [laughter] >> THAT'S A Marathi guy. Delhi boy. I didn't know any of this.

[00:09:05]>> Yeah.

[00:09:06]>> Okay. So, Hello Brother. Hello Brother's made by uh >> Sohail Khan.

[00:09:10]>> And this was >> It was his brother. It was all three brothers directed by Sohail Khan right after the big hit that he gave.

[00:09:18]>> Love it. Love it.

[00:09:18]>> That was that was >> But Sohail had actually directed a film before Pyar Kiya To Darna Kya called Auzaar which was terrible.

[00:09:34]>> Sanjay Kapoor?

[00:09:35]>> Sanjay Kapoor and Salman.

[00:09:38]the one of two Macarena songs both by Anu Malik.

[00:09:42]>> [laughter] >> There was another Macarena in another film and everyone was like but he can't do it in two films, right?

[00:09:46]>> Of course he can.

[00:09:47]>> So yeah.

[00:09:48]>> Sohail Khan's directed quite a few movies.

[00:09:50]>> He did. He did. And then he directed himself later.

[00:09:52]>> I'm proud to be an Indian.

[00:09:54]>> Aryan.

[00:09:54]>> Aryan. No, no, there was something before also. There was one with there was a lovely song in that with >> Samira Reddy.

[00:09:59]>> Yes, yes, yes.

[00:10:00]>> Thoda sa pyar hua hai.

[00:10:01]>> Correct.

[00:10:01]>> Thoda hai baki.

[00:10:02]>> Thoda hai baki.

[00:10:03]>> Oh, that's that's he directed.

[00:10:04]>> That was his film.

[00:10:05]>> Yeah, yeah, he directed.

[00:10:05]>> I thought that was a Pankaj Parashar classic.

[00:10:08]>> No, that wasn't.

[00:10:10]>> I'm a Pankaj Parashar fan.

[00:10:12]>> But you know, I mean Chalbaaz and all like Jalwa, yeah.

[00:10:15]>> Jalwa, Chalbaaz, Rajkumar.

[00:10:17]>> Yeah.

[00:10:18]>> Banaras.

[00:10:18]>> The big ones.

[00:10:19]>> Yeah.

[00:10:20]>> The big ones. I'm a and Karamchand of course. He's inspector he's a Karamchand man.

[00:10:25]>> Okay, so you are guilty pleasure from a movie that you want to start off >> I've spoken about this too often. So sorry, sorry everybody. Om Jai Jagdish.

[00:10:32]I feel like I watch it minimum three times a year. It's a >> Wow, okay.

[00:10:35]>> It lives in my mind all the time.

[00:10:37]>> So for you it is the gift that keeps on giving.

[00:10:39]>> keeps on giving and I feel like I notice newer moments of guilty pleasure every time I watch it because it's just very layered as a story. [laughter] It's a very layered story.

[00:10:49]So this is not londa like >> He thunk. He thunk. He thunk.

[00:10:53]>> Very, very it's deeply thunk movie. It's commenting on multiple things. But I also feel like it's not the londa but it's I'm guilty cuz it's a very patriarchal movie. But I have a really good time watching [laughter] it.

[00:11:05]>> So that's where it doesn't align with your soul.

[00:11:06]>> So I'm like am I actually a 60 year old man who wants to be the head of a family? Like who am I? It makes me think. So Om Jai Jagdish is my default guilty pleasure. I love watching that movie.

[00:11:15]>> Great. I'm going to come in steaming with a Baghban.

[00:11:17]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:11:18]>> I have a strong [laughter] Baghban. I watch it while it's a gift that keeps on giving.

[00:11:20]>> Baghban was good yeah. Like that was like legit. I'm a fan yeah.

[00:11:24]>> Not guilty pleasure.

[00:11:25]>> It pressed all the right buttons yeah.

[00:11:26]>> It pressed all the right buttons with all but like I think for me I I is another PROBABLY ANOTHER FILM.

[00:11:32]>> [laughter] >> WELL, >> ANYTIME THEY WANT TO COME IN.

[00:11:35]>> ANYTHING WITH SUMAN Ranganathan I'm sold. I love she's not she you don't yeah she's not You [laughter] should perhaps I BOTH OF PEOPLE YOU SHOULD REPRESENT AND PEOPLE YOU should never talk to again simultaneously. [laughter] So I like Baghban. I watch it once a month.

[00:11:54]>> And I don't once a month?

[00:11:56]>> Once a month I watch Baghban and I really yeah I really think they were shitty parents.

[00:12:01]How can you raise four [ __ ] Like what kind of what kind of parenting have you done? But I like my my and there's there's a scene also later but I just think uh when he's pretending to have a thali full of food and he's calling her and he's puri bhi bani hai and ALL HE'S DOING THE STD FOREPLAY FOREPLAY PCO foreplay [laughter] that's going on.

[00:12:27]>> Do a Hema Malini impression when she >> Who the hell you think you are TALKING MY DAUGHTER LIKE THAT?

[00:12:32]>> When Rimii Sen is at the club I just have to say love and respect to everyone around us.

[00:12:38]>> Everybody everybody should >> Love you all.

[00:12:40]And >> Yeah.

[00:12:41]>> But yeah Baghban is my movie.

[00:12:42]>> Yeah.

[00:12:43]>> But uh you know if you had to say maybe talk about an era like not one movie in particular but if you had to sort of find an umbrella right of uh of films or say an actor or an artist and not to say that not to make a comment on the quality but to say that something you took more pleasure in than you needed to.

[00:13:03]Like it doesn't necessarily have to qualify as a bad film for it to be a guilty pleasure.

[00:13:06]>> The 80s were the worst like they were the worst in terms of films but I feel like that end of 90s just before the tide turned with Kaho Naa Pyaar Hai in 2000 and then 2001 was that great year when you had Lagaan [clears throat] and Dil Chahta Hai and Chandni Bar >> Mr. Bhandarkar has been mentioned for the first time.

[00:13:25]>> But Chandni Bar, I mean >> Yeah.

[00:13:32]>> I wasn't such a big fan of Page 3. A lot of people >> Calendar Girls?

[00:13:36]>> I was just going to ask. Not Calendar >> With the Calendar Girls?

[00:13:38]>> [laughter] >> I I I've missed that part of his oeuvre.

[00:13:41]>> Corporate >> Calendar Sorry, Chandni Bar for me is was was a very good movie.

[00:13:45]>> Very good film.

[00:13:45]>> Also great performance, Tabu. I mean, you know.

[00:13:47]>> I think it's because of the performance.

[00:13:48]>> Yeah.

[00:13:49]>> story.

[00:13:50]>> But but it was true to the world. It was you know, like he he knew that world. It was it was true to that world.

[00:13:55]>> Uh little out of depths later on. Um though fashion I think was was interesting. Was was Yeah, I like fashion of of all of them.

[00:14:02]I mean, remember the time she wakes up with the and that like the lowest depths of like whatever is the [ __ ] he picks up with the black eye.

[00:14:08]>> I'm a Harsh Chhaya fan.

[00:14:10]>> [laughter] >> So I watch everything, Mr. Harsh Chhaya.

[00:14:12]>> Tell me the horror. That's another scene that lives rent free.

[00:14:16]Is that his most famous scene?

[00:14:18]>> would you consider like Mohra and all that same era? Would you Is that mid '90s?

[00:14:22]>> Daud.

[00:14:23]That's another one of my favorite. So you know, it was right right after Rangeela. You're like hailing Ramu as this >> Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:14:29]>> this new voice like commercial cinema discovered Urmila and then he makes Daud, which is absolutely one of the films that I absolutely love, which is the stupidest film that I love. Um Daud was Sanjay Dutt and >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're on a they're on a ship.

[00:14:43]>> They're on many things. It's basically two of these guys on a run and and and and in Daud there is the the greatest actor one of our greatest actors that ever lived Neeraj Vora, who you know, in all seriousness actually one of the >> People writer gone too soon.

[00:14:56]>> I gone too soon and and was able to create these set pieces, these comic set pieces, which were just fantastic. And I'm told because because I used to be a journalist, I used to talk to filmmakers and they said a lot of this was just his creation from the writing to the performance and stuff. And there is a scene in Please allow indulge me. There is a scene in Daud where um Sanju and I think he's Nandu and she's Bhavani. They're on the run. They're they're He's supposed to the one-line plot is that he's supposed to take this thing and deliver it to some Gunda. But now he's gone rogue because he's he's been told you're not going to get paid for this job or something. So anyway, they land up in this small village and Neeraj Vora is Chacko who is who says many many people Chacko that's how he got named Chacko.

[00:15:41]>> [laughter] >> He he is this head of this village and now these two come and and he is trying to be fresh with he's trying to impress Urmila and Sanju this beefy guy is kind of interrupting every now and then is that famous scene many people do what they SHOULD CARRY TO MANY PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY SHOULD CARRY TO AND IT'S A SCENE THAT GOES on for about five six minutes and the the level of exasperation of this character because because Sanju has now said that her name is Daya Shankar and his name is Uma Bharti and it's hilarious and this guy it's just beautiful performance like superb A grade acting the level of exasperation THAT HE KEEPS >> [laughter] >> THIS WAS A RECURRING scene on Filmy Channels many people do what they should carry to It's an iconic scene now.

[00:16:40]It's a song also now many people I feel all It was a it was a collection of comedy clips back in the day before reels and they would put this they would put a lot of people that show movie and This is iconic a lot of people talk about it for the writing of the comedic like what's the comedic angle It was it was and it was a bizarre film.

[00:16:58]It was bonkers the film was nonsense. It was like really like fall from grace.

[00:17:02]Like Rangila and then you made like Daud it was nonsense but I know that it has a sort of cult following because it was just also at that time I think that that's so bad that it's good was it was one of those at least for me it was yeah it was I I It was so bad but I have a a movie. I have Rajkumar Kohli's Johnny actually one scene in that THAT IS ACTUALLY OF course I've seen it multiple times.

[00:17:26]I've seen it like three or four times. I haven't seen the original. I want actually is like Campy pulpy good fun.

[00:17:33]Again like it's similar counterparts right? There's that scene where Manisha Koirala gets I think assaulted or an attempt to molest happens which eventually succeed later and they kill her. Rajat Bedi assaults Manisha Koirala or tries to and she's like I'm not going to talk to this boy. He tried to assault me yesterday. And Akshay Kumar comes in steaming with a are you are you sure you want to do that? I mean I have a farmhouse party lucky yeah. And then Sonu Nigam And And she basically is like sure I will not hold you accountable for this assault because then you'll just be like she's way in.

[00:18:15]I want friends. I'll I'll forgive this.

[00:18:18]And it moves on like next moment they're partying like Arshad Warsi is dancing.

[00:18:22]God it didn't get made in woke times.

[00:18:23][clears throat] Yeah it did get made definitely 10 years too late anyway. [laughter] It shouldn't have been made I feel like that's what you're saying. At no point is that appropriate. This is the one with Armaan Kohli that was done to launch the son.

[00:18:39]Relaunch correct.

[00:18:42]He didn't do Deewana so he did something. That's right. That's right.

[00:18:45]He was meant to. He was meant to do. He was meant to do Deewana he shot for it and left and then Mr. SRK Thanks.

[00:18:52]Not not a talent.

[00:18:54]>> [laughter] >> Nagin and all also he becomes a snake and all also.

[00:19:00]I'll tell you mine. I'll do Hera because I feel like I have face. Yeah yeah I think David Dhawan movies were very like I just vibed with it a lot. Very good yeah.

[00:19:10]Very good. Very good. Some of them were very good but there were particular moments in it which were guilty pleasure moments. Of course, very well written, very well acted, directed, all of that.

[00:19:18]But like Biwi Number One and >> [laughter] >> I love Biwi Number One. Urban it's urban. I love Biwi Number One. Like seriously love Biwi Number One. It's very funny.

[00:19:24]>> You were saying that there's there's urban you told me >> Yeah, I feel like there are two David Dhawans. There's one which is slightly more like rooted >> Yeah, rural [laughter] rural rustic rustic rustic.

[00:19:34]>> It's a Govinda Salman >> Correct. It's Raja Babu, Saajan Chale Sasural [laughter] is rustic.

[00:19:39]>> Yeah, yeah, Raveena Karisma >> Karisma is the city >> [laughter] >> Karisma is rural also.

[00:19:45]>> Sure, Saajan Chale Sasural.

[00:19:46]>> But Karisma has to be everything.

[00:19:47]>> Fair, fair.

[00:19:48]>> Fair, versatile.

[00:19:49]>> Yeah, yeah. Didn't you guys like Govinda Salman Govinda David Dhawan movies more or Salman David Dhawan?

[00:19:56]>> Aankhen was great.

[00:19:57]>> Mhm.

[00:19:58]>> Saajan Chale Sasural was great, but I think a lot of the Salman ones were also very good. Yeah.

[00:20:02]>> Yeah.

[00:20:02]>> I mean Biwi Number One was really like my favorite.

[00:20:05]>> Dulhan Hum Le Jayenge [laughter] also I really liked it.

[00:20:08]>> Biwi Number One is actually Anil Kapoor and Tabu are fantastic.

[00:20:11]>> They I'm so glad. I'm so glad you're saying it. They are the unsung heroes of that film.

[00:20:16]>> They are very funny.

[00:20:16]>> The climax in the car where they were having the car break down having the car break down.

[00:20:20]>> It's just superb.

[00:20:21]>> Where she thinks that he's cheating on her Sushmita said no.

[00:20:24]>> Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. Like the film is over and then this happens.

[00:20:27]>> [laughter] >> It's the climax after the climax. It's like some >> You can put her in anything and she'll make it anything good. I feel like you can put her in anything and she'll make >> There's a tag tag also where Saif comes.

[00:20:37]>> Yeah, of course. With Sushmita with Sushmita, yeah.

[00:20:39]>> HE JUST GIVES HER THAT LOOP OF SUSHMITA.

[00:20:41]>> She doesn't end up alone.

[00:20:42]>> That she won't come back and trouble again.

[00:20:43]>> She's also like sorry for being greedy. Please love me and he's like I forgive you for the rest of your life. I have an upper hand.

[00:20:49]>> [laughter] >> Yeah, yeah. She's the she's the Mrunal Thakur of of of that movie.

[00:20:54]>> Which what an ideology.

[00:20:55]>> I'm a current movie viewer as in there'll be some element of >> the new one the new one.

[00:20:58]>> Oh, yeah, yeah. New one we don't know what >> David Dhawan era I feel like I grew up watching that and I had a great time.

[00:21:03]I'm more Salman. I like the Salman movies more.

[00:21:05]>> to say I do too. I mean I love a few of the Govinda ones but as a >> Re-watch value >> Re-watch value >> And more. Partner Partner's combination of >> Hero No. 1 and [ __ ] No. 1 Hero No. 1 Hero No. 1 I'm so old I was on the set of Hero No.

[00:21:20]1.

[00:21:21]>> [laughter] >> So you I was there in the set of Hero No. 1 in Ooty.

[00:21:25]>> Oh really?

[00:21:26]>> Ooty We can do these I'm so old jokes.

[00:21:27]I'll give you another one.

[00:21:28]>> did they shoot in Ooty?

[00:21:29]>> They were doing a song with Karisma and >> Okay. Because they're in Zurich and all that. They do a lot of >> They used to go off to do this. This was one song in that big Ooty always had because that What was that hotel? That was a hotel and that had this lawn this like never-ending lawn and stuff. So they did some family sequence. I can't remember.

[00:21:48]>> Okay.

[00:21:51]>> I break into Mujhe Maaf Karna O Sai Ram very often. Yeah, I [laughter] sing it.

[00:21:56]Also because Amitabh Bachchan is the MC in the school annual function day.

[00:22:01]Before the kids come and start doing like I love my parents and all that.

[00:22:04]>> Okay.

[00:22:05]>> Amitabh Bachchan introduces >> But David Dhawan there's no one else who who's occupied that space of creating these like sort of comedies >> Back-to-back comedies >> Not in that way. Not in that Not in that >> Priyadarshan is very different.

[00:22:15]>> Priyadarshan is very different. Anees Bazmee's very different. And now Raj Shandilya who made the Dream Girl films >> That's That's very Comedy Circus coded.

[00:22:23]His writing is very >> but a lot of comedy has become that, right? I mean like this sort of reel TV reel So like just gag not not so much plot driven as Yeah, David is the OG.

[00:22:35]>> Yeah.

[00:22:35]>> He actually had He was heavy plot.

[00:22:37]>> Yeah, yeah.

[00:22:38]>> He was heavy plot and like I think we had an on an older episode described it but she was like, "You know but David Dhawan characters used to constantly cheat." And I was like, "No, they never cheated."

[00:22:46]>> They cheated.

[00:22:47]>> Right, right.

[00:22:47]>> [laughter] >> Gharwali Baharwali >> Correct, correct.

[00:22:51]>> You know they're >> [laughter] >> slightly more chill about it. Yeah, come on. It's just a boy being a boy like that.

[00:22:56]>> All the hits.

[00:22:57]>> So much hate will come but yeah.

[00:22:59]>> [laughter] >> But >> Yours too?

[00:23:01]>> Mine is okay. This It It's a toss-up. It was a toss-up between doing like um super melodramatic family movies, but [clears throat] or this other genre, which is toxic hypermasculinity.

[00:23:14]>> Right. Right. Of course.

[00:23:15]>> I definitely think watching toxic hypermasculine films is my guilty pleasure.

[00:23:19]>> Uh-huh.

[00:23:19]>> And I'll And And it's And it's a recent one.

[00:23:22]>> I wonder where you're going with this.

[00:23:23]>> It's a recent one. It's a recent one.

[00:23:24]>> Tell me.

[00:23:25]>> And all of them and like and we can discuss all of them. We won't discuss the big one because we don't want to get killed.

[00:23:31]>> Yeah, but >> Because that's not hypermasculinity.

[00:23:33]That is much bigger. That is taking down our enemy country.

[00:23:36]>> Yeah.

[00:23:36]>> Which But these other films, like even if you were watching this um O Romeo and all >> Uh-huh.

[00:23:43]>> recently, even directors who you wouldn't expect to go in a direction of just like 700 daggers being thrown to "Dhak Dhak Karne Laga" and all is happening.

[00:23:51]>> Yeah.

[00:23:53]>> I feel like there are points where it triggers something very primal in you, right? Like there is something to go and something to watching abusive, terrible protagonist >> Right.

[00:24:04]>> where you're just like, what? Is Is this? And like I find myself get sucked in deeper where I'm just like, what the Okay, this is happening. This is really happening.

[00:24:14]>> I feel like from a male perspective, it's like primal. From a female perspective, you can't stop watching cuz it's rage baiting. You know, it's like watching a car crash. You're like, I really want to get angry and this is a great outlet for me. So, I love watching like "Ranjhanaa Tere Dil Mein." I love.

[00:24:26]I watch once a year. It's definitely toxic masculinity.

[00:24:29]>> Raanjhanaa Dil Rai.

[00:24:30]>> Mhm.

[00:24:30]>> Just want to say the name once.

[00:24:32]>> Very nice person, I want to tell you.

[00:24:34]>> Of course.

[00:24:35]>> And like I I we we've discussed Ranjhanaa intensely and its politics and its like >> representation of love and >> representation of love. And then I saw the new one.

[00:24:44]>> That's right.

[00:24:45]>> Have you seen that film?

[00:24:46]>> No, I haven't.

[00:24:46]>> Okay. So, we'll move on.

[00:24:48]>> I'm so lucky that I'm >> [laughter] >> Because I've read I've read and heard enough >> It's an It's a It's quite a It's quite a wild journey that that film goes on.

[00:24:58]>> But I find like see he picked a side.

[00:25:00]>> Correct.

[00:25:00]>> I feel like he picked a >> And the film was massively successful.

[00:25:03]>> Yeah.

[00:25:04]>> Which means >> It got eclipsed because the bigger thing came.

[00:25:06]>> No no it did very well. It did like monstrously well.

[00:25:10]>> Yeah.

[00:25:10]>> Yeah.

[00:25:11]>> Oh for its scale or whatever.

[00:25:12]>> No no it DID VERY WELL.

[00:25:17]>> [laughter] >> NO NO IT DID VERY WELL.

[00:25:19]>> GIVEN ALL THE I'M JUST ADDING >> I'M not even saying given because I never saw the film so I'm saying it did very well.

[00:25:23]>> I enjoyed it. I saw the film.

[00:25:25]>> I enjoyed but I enjoyed it as a like they're fantastic actors. Dhanush and Kriti Sanon are just so good in the film. He especially is like out of the world.

[00:25:35]Incredible.

[00:25:36]>> And like it it takes you on a journey.

[00:25:38]He's a fighter pilot and he's a college ruffian and there's some >> Oh wow.

[00:25:42]>> Yeah. Yeah he's everything.

[00:25:49]>> But it was everything because I remember he was a cricket he was a retired cricketer who had become a >> The bomb movie. You know this is the bomb movie.

[00:25:57]>> Whether the cricket the stadium >> Pancholi is the senior cricketer.

[00:26:01]>> No but Dev Saab himself was in the movie as he was in every he was a commentator he was an inspector he was also a pilot he was at one point they were like you know something has to be done in some plane but he knows how to fly also. So I just yeah Aval Number was he could be anything.

[00:26:15]>> For a for a do you think there are there are filmmakers who have transitioned from people who you immediately like who were up top in terms of craft >> Yeah.

[00:26:25]>> and definitely like a very sort of direct pleasure was you received from watching that cinema and has slowly transitioned into the zone of guilty pleasure filmmakers or or or producers.

[00:26:35]>> right? That happens.

[00:26:36]>> Aging is what we're talking about.

[00:26:37]>> Yeah I mean Subhash Ghai right? I mean like Subhash I mean >> And I >> You lose that edge. You have to lose that.

[00:26:43]>> No but like even if you look at things like Yuvvraaj >> [laughter] >> I I mean >> [snorts] >> you listen music damn good Yeah yeah.

[00:26:51]>> My ringtone I will make.

[00:26:56]>> That's a remake of Rain Man or something?

[00:26:59]>> No.

[00:26:59]>> No, I mean like no.

[00:27:01]>> Rain Man and all you do >> Yeah, yeah, no.

[00:27:03]>> Tom Cruise I know.

[00:27:04]>> Yes, yeah.

[00:27:04]>> What are you from this film are you from this film?

[00:27:07]>> [laughter] >> And I and I really I want to I want to I really want to qualify but I said Subhash G is a incredible filmmaker. I also feel like times have changed, people have changed.

[00:27:17]>> Yeah.

[00:27:18]>> But but there is a lot of and I'm telling you as as someone now who works in the business there is a lot of pressure on some of these filmmakers to stay in their zone. So like do what you do best but I mean times have changed, people have changed. What we are exposed to has changed. I mean dramatically. Taal would work. Taal was Taal was was still I mean the great music the chemistry and Taal had all the elements. Taal I think was like the >> Especially in this Akshaye Khanna revival project. If you just they can just re-release it and people would probably >> No, Pardes was before that.

[00:27:51]I'm a big Pardes fan.

[00:27:52]>> I'm a very big fan of Pardes.

[00:27:54]>> I'm a big fan >> I'm a very big >> Yeah, yeah, it's very good. Oh, best rishta with Ganga he has.

[00:28:02]>> Best rishta with Ganga.

[00:28:03]>> And also there's a scene with Apoorva Agnihotri. I don't know if is he your talent? I'll just [laughter] I'll just name >> Making notes, making notes.

[00:28:08]>> Suman Ranganathan and Apoorva Agnihotri, please tell us. He is Inder Tej Wani.

[00:28:11]I'll keep making a list for you.

[00:28:13]There's a scene Apoorva Agnihotri is doing a I'm an NRI American dance. He's just at a party and he's just doing a lot of this.

[00:28:20]>> This.

[00:28:21]>> I always wanted to dance like that.

[00:28:22]>> What about the lyrics of of Subhash G's film? Sometimes you know these this chorus they In in Pardes I can't >> But yeah, that it's a And all of it >> [laughter] >> Boy BOY FROM SHAPATH.

[00:28:42]>> THE CURSED.

[00:28:44]>> BOY >> ALL the airport reel.

[00:28:47]>> All the mic, the throwing the mic.

[00:28:49]>> Throw the mic before mic throw was he got late to BOARD A FLIGHT.

[00:28:58]>> [laughter] >> I HAVE ENJOYED GOPAL VERMA. I FEEL LIKE the journey happened for me. Well, I can easily when I watch him and then I saw Notch and I was like is this the same director who has made such a >> I will not hear a word against Antara Mali in this >> She's doing yoga poses. It's very Have you seen Notch?

[00:29:13]>> I've seen Notch. I had I had to review that.

[00:29:15]>> It's one of my favorite films.

[00:29:16]>> They stopped doing serious acting because he's wearing wayfarer specs.

[00:29:20]>> The specs >> Serious acting with his specs.

[00:29:22]>> Actually, that's the thing. I I I've also I've got a goldfish memory. So, I'm very lucky I don't I've I've forgotten all of this. I I survived the trauma. I reviewed these films.

[00:29:30]>> You reviewed Notch.

[00:29:30]>> I reviewed Notch.

[00:29:31]>> I'm going to go watch it. I'll find it on YouTube.

[00:29:34]>> You give stars, no?

[00:29:35]>> Yeah.

[00:29:40]>> Reduced like the the critiquing process to like to like how how do you like No, no, like reduced it by like giving stars and like you know completely kind of like dumbified the whole >> One time watch. One time [laughter] watch.

[00:29:50]>> Not even worth a watch. Verdict.

[00:29:53]>> Yeah.

[00:29:54]>> Save your time.

[00:29:55]>> What was the moment when you all realized Ramu is falling off the grid about like good filmmaking? He's just not He's lost the plot.

[00:30:01]>> You know the thing about Ramu was like every every bizarre film then there was one good one also. One one Veerappan will show up suddenly.

[00:30:09]Jungle Jungle is a good one. Correct.

[00:30:12]Attack no.

[00:30:13]>> No, Attack on 26/11. I didn't watch it.

[00:30:15]>> I watched I reviewed Notch.

[00:30:17]>> No.

[00:30:18]>> I didn't know. I didn't know.

[00:30:19]>> I didn't watch it.

[00:30:19]>> No, no. Who Did Ritesh Deshmukh play himself?

[00:30:22]>> [laughter] >> I don't think he was in the film. I don't think I could have done that one.

[00:30:26]>> RGBKI Aag, yeah. That That was the That was the That's when you knew like gone. Like you know, but but he's I I actually recently met him and he has the enthusiasm of a student filmmaker.

[00:30:40]The guy cannot stop and I think I I I like to think and yeah, I've had these arguments with him and I've had these conversations with him. He's like, "Yeah, I'm excited about every film."

[00:30:48]Satya also Satya had no script. You all You all tell me is it the most effort I put was into RGV Ki Aag. I was like, "What?" And he said Satya had no script.

[00:30:55]It just evolved on so much of it evolved. So, he he likes to kind of, you know, mix it up and and and sort of challenge you. But But yeah, I mean, RGV is so inconsistent. It's funny.

[00:31:05]>> He's also been I think the only director who's been able to tap into a more gray side of Amitabh Bachchan also, right?

[00:31:10]Like Nishabd, Sarkar, slightly edgy Amitabh Bachchan. Not a lot of directors can do that.

[00:31:16]>> I had a good time.

[00:31:18]>> Nishabd was nice.

[00:31:19]>> Ahead of its time.

[00:31:20]>> That was a good film. I I enjoyed it. I liked it more than Cheeni Kum. I don't know why I'm drawing a parallel. Yeah, it's >> Cheeni Kum started damn well, yeah. Like the first half was no, yeah. It was It was Yeah, then that whole Dand March and Qutub Minar and all became a little bizarre. Him Remember him having to hold the save that kid's life. And some kid has to die in a film.

[00:31:40]>> Yeah, yeah. That whole plot line should be edited out.

[00:31:43]>> Yeah. [laughter] >> She was the same girl in another movie.

[00:31:46]>> Sure, I'm sure. There were a few people.

[00:31:48]>> Aisha Black? Aisha That's not the black girl. I >> Aisha, that's Aisha. That's different.

[00:31:55]>> Aisha was in Black.

[00:31:56]>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. She >> She was very good.

[00:31:57]>> She was very good.

[00:31:59]>> My god, yeah. But then Black has no space in a conversation about guilty pleasure in cinema.

[00:32:04]Uh we could we could discuss films that would constitute as guilty pleasures, but uh the anomaly in a in a in a good filmmaker like Ram Gopal Varma, of course, has been a uh a little bit of up and downs and the crests and troughs or whatever he's there's been a I'm trying to avoid decline or whatever. But I've said it anyway now. So, but what about say a a filmmaker who has 10 amazing films, but one of the films that is there in the middle >> I have one.

[00:32:31]>> Go for it.

[00:32:32]>> Imtiaz Ali, I think broadly has been pretty decent, but Love Aaj Kal 2 was very difficult to watch. It was a very difficult movie to watch.

[00:32:40]>> Actually, he's just rubbish himself. He said it was >> I shouldn't have made it.

[00:32:43]>> That's self-awareness.

[00:32:44]>> Yeah.

[00:32:45]>> That was that that was bizarre.

[00:32:46]>> But, that's not a guilty pleasure also.

[00:32:48]You can't even watch that.

[00:32:49]>> There's no pleasure. There's no pleasure to it. Like a guilty pleasure guilty pleasure movie made by >> uh like like uh >> Like a cheeky movie that someone made.

[00:32:57]>> Like I'll tell you Dharma for instance.

[00:32:59]Kaal for me. Amazing guilty pleasure movie. And I think it that actually works because it's designed in a way to be a campy creature not a campy creature's supernatural creature feature.

[00:33:11]>> Right.

[00:33:11]>> And I don't know what the reviews were like back then.

[00:33:14]>> Not good. I think they were good. No, I I think they were like average.

[00:33:17]>> But, that's any movie >> We went and saw it in the theaters.

[00:33:19]>> I mean it was quite >> I I I mean I remember thinking it was entertaining because it was a world that you I mean you don't get it going to jungles you know an animal whatever wildlife >> Jim Corbett >> [laughter] >> Was it was that what it was called?

[00:33:31]>> Jim Corbett National Park is what it was called.

[00:33:34]>> [laughter] >> Jim Corbett I know.

[00:33:37]>> But, it had those it had those two very cool item songs.

[00:33:39]>> Yeah, I think it's known for those.

[00:33:42]>> [laughter] >> It had Nassa Nassa also. I'm a Nassa Nassa guy.

[00:33:44]>> I don't remember Nassa Nassa.

[00:33:45]>> It was a good Oh yeah yeah yeah.

[00:33:47]>> Kaal Dhamal is pretty good.

[00:33:48]>> Kaal Dhamal is good. And there was one more.

[00:33:50]>> That one where they're doing this what >> Toba Toba >> Ishq Mein >> Yeah yeah. Great great music.

[00:34:01]>> My favorite part of that film was that Vivek Oberoi they had to set up as the the like to put some plant some seed of doubt that this may be the bad guy. So, he just would look into the camera and go like Jaan Se Maar Doonga.

[00:34:13]>> [laughter] >> Every 5 minutes of the film Vivek Oberoi just mutters a Jaan Se Maar Doonga. And that's all. They're not he's not doing anything shady. He's the hero the rest of the time. And then John Abraham also does the half smirk every now and then when they So, he'll just look into the camera and do that.

[00:34:26]>> [laughter] >> Right after a death.

[00:34:28]>> But, look at the acting in that one.

[00:34:29]Vivek, John, >> Esha Deol >> Esha Lara Dutta, for >> You know, I sort of holding it up yeah.

[00:34:35]>> One one is there. No [snorts] Vivek, I would I would not club I would not club.

[00:34:40]>> If Vivek used to be damn good of course.

[00:34:43]>> I think >> And then like Prince and all you've seen?

[00:34:46]>> We love >> It's showtime.

[00:34:47]>> We love Dil De Diya Hai I'm so happy we're discussing MR. COOKIE GULATI.

[00:34:50]>> IF SHANTANU If Shantanu has two beards he will dance to Prince song.

[00:34:54]>> [laughter] >> That's Tere Liye >> The bike one huh?

[00:35:01]>> With Aruna Shields sitting on it.

[00:35:03]>> Multiple goals are there.

[00:35:04]>> Aruna >> [laughter] >> Yeah, it's too good.

[00:35:12]>> The man has left Khudaai for Aruna Shields.

[00:35:15]Who is by the way now an Instagram influencer who does yoga videos with snakes wrapped around her neck.

[00:35:22]>> Real snakes? Real snakes.

[00:35:24]>> She doesn't >> [laughter] >> Tantric she talks about tantra and yoga.

[00:35:29]But with doing yoga with snakes wrapped around your body.

[00:35:33]>> Intriguing.

[00:35:34]>> My algorithm also built it brick by brick. That's how I got to this current algo.

[00:35:40]But >> I think Dhadkan also we should pay homage.

[00:35:43]>> It's a great movie.

[00:35:45]>> [laughter] >> It's a what an arc.

[00:35:46]>> This should be my job man and I I Dhadkan was damn good fighting man.

[00:35:50]>> Very good.

[00:35:50]>> And that music was out of the world even today our Dhadkan.

[00:35:54]>> Yeah yeah. Little >> Some scenes stay with you and they've made it into proper memes.

[00:36:00]>> Little like state transport bus energy you [laughter] know?

[00:36:02]>> Fully fully >> But that was the time that was supposed to be auto auto rickshaw driver music.

[00:36:08]>> Barber music uh not salon salon which I don't know.

[00:36:12]>> It's also Akshay Kumar playing a good guy which I find very amusing.

[00:36:16]>> Sunil Shetty had the famous dialogue no?

[00:36:25]>> He has many dialogues. He has one where he's explaining to Shilpa Shetty how he became rich. This has gone very viral.

[00:36:32]>> [laughter] >> This is like Olympics of bad acting.

[00:36:42]Like Akshay, Shilpa, Sunil.

[00:36:45]>> Correct. The worst. The worst. The worst. [laughter] >> I'm not saying the worst.

[00:36:48]>> He's saying Olympics of Olympics of bad acting, he's saying.

[00:36:52]>> I SAID WORST.

[00:36:53]>> HE SAID OLYMPICS OF >> THIS IS AN AWARD SHOW IN THE MAKING. I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO BE NO, but also can >> Golden Kela is coming back.

[00:37:01]>> Guys, there's Parmeet Sethi in that who's playing a very evil turkey like dirty very not a nice man. And Mahima Chaudhry slaps him. It's a very real >> Oh, she had that song.

[00:37:11]>> Yeah, yeah.

[00:37:17]>> What else has Mr. Sunil Darshan made?

[00:37:19]>> That was that That was the image. Sorry.

[00:37:21]The brother. Who made Who made Raja Hindustani?

[00:37:23]>> Mhm. Oh, which was yes.

[00:37:24]>> Iconic.

[00:37:25]>> Thank you. Thank you. I'll produce that >> But he also made Mela which I wanted to tell you was the first film I ever reviewed.

[00:37:30]>> [laughter] >> And the fact that I could after that do 20 years now, you have to give me credit.

[00:37:33]>> It's the first film you reviewed.

[00:37:34]>> Yeah, I remember being the first film I reviewed. Mela. I made him at the time.

[00:37:39]>> Or you're being nice?

[00:37:41]>> I was I think I was a lot more brutal when I was on television. Because again, that that had to be a performance in itself.

[00:37:46]But it was print it was the first I don't think I I don't think I must have been I can't even remember. Thankfully, there's no trace of these reviews. So you know >> You have You have said You have actually said some brutal stuff and maybe we can cut it out later. But I remember my favorite >> [laughter] >> I don't know if if this is you. But I think it was Khatta Meetha promotions.

[00:38:03]And you took apart Akshay Kumar because he went to R. K. Laxman.

[00:38:07]>> Oh, god. Yeah.

[00:38:08]>> It was actually what he did was in terrible taste. What he did was in terrible taste.

[00:38:14]Like he TORE HIM APART >> I THINK I SAID SOMETHING and then it became a thing >> Yeah, I know you I know what you called him. You called him a grinning something.

[00:38:20]>> Yeah, yeah.

[00:38:21]>> And then Mr. Bachchan got involved and then they like "Aise nahi bol sakte actors ko and all that happened."

[00:38:25]>> a thing.

[00:38:26]>> I miss those times.

[00:38:28]>> I don't.

[00:38:28]>> Wait, but do you remember the times [laughter] WHEN HE GOT REPRIMANDED?

[00:38:31]YOU'RE NOSTALGIC about when he was one of the >> I like saying what you feel like saying.

[00:38:35]>> There were repercussions >> That I That I I do miss those times.

[00:38:38]>> Now you can't say You can't say anything now. You can't say anything now.

[00:38:41]>> Now you can't say You can't You can't You can't say >> like part two. You can't You can't EVEN SAY I LIKE PART TWO.

[00:38:48]>> YOU CAN'T EVEN SAY I LIKE >> PART TWO I DIDN'T LIKE >> UH >> [laughter] >> JUST LIKE CHANGE THE TOPIC COMPLETELY.

[00:38:56]>> OKAY.

[00:38:56]>> So no, but Mr. That's Sunil Darshan. So Raja Hindustani of course.

[00:39:00]>> Raja Hindustani was Dharmesh Darshan.

[00:39:01]Sunil Darshan made Family He made >> Family Ties of Blood?

[00:39:06]>> Yeah, was it Was that with the >> That's Aryaman Ramsay.

[00:39:09]>> No, no, that was That was uh Rajkumar Santoshi.

[00:39:12]Uh he is my favorite. Nothing guilty about him. Top quality film maker.

[00:39:15]>> Even Even his films that didn't work were My god. Santoshi is is one of the great I mean also one of the greatest dialogue writers, one of the He's just >> I love >> sense of drama.

[00:39:24]>> Khakee is one of my favorite film of >> my god, yeah.

[00:39:27]>> favorite film of all time, Khakee. Just >> That scene where the I think it was a junior copper I think it was a Pandu who has to slap Mr. Bachchan.

[00:39:42]Oh, yeah, [snorts] yeah.

[00:39:42]>> Man, like it's just one of those great scenes. They're just great dramatic acting.

[00:39:47]>> The only boy The only guy who dies in that film. And then he's >> There's a train sequence where the coach is leaving and he's running.

[00:39:52]>> And that twist plot twist was so cool, yeah.

[00:39:55]>> That plot twist was cool.

[00:39:56]>> Yeah, she was running. She comes running and >> He comes running and >> Very very awesome. Very very cool.

[00:40:03]>> Most likable he's ever been.

[00:40:05]>> No, no, no.

[00:40:06]>> Most likable he's ever The most The The most you've ever rooted for an Akshay Kumar character would be Khakee. The co-corrupt cop turned sincere >> patriotic film.

[00:40:15]>> Yeah, Toilet Ek Prem >> sorry, yeah, yeah, Toilet.

[00:40:18]>> Pad Man.

[00:40:19]>> Yeah.

[00:40:19]>> I >> seen but like good. You're you're rooting for Rustom and Airlift and all.

[00:40:24]>> Not Rustom [laughter] specifically.

[00:40:26]Airlift I will watch very very watchable fun stuff yeah.

[00:40:29]>> Airlift and >> In the in the Uber those are the better ones.

[00:40:31]>> In the Uber I have forgotten.

[00:40:34]In the Uber Major is my favorite.

[00:40:36]>> Major I don't >> Telugu movie.

[00:40:38]>> Oh oh I thought you meant in in Akshay's Uber.

[00:40:40]>> Oh yeah oh in Akshay's Uber though Akshay's Uber though then I like the Deccan Deccan movie.

[00:40:46]>> All right yes yes yes.

[00:40:47]>> And Mission Raniganj.

[00:40:48]>> Mission Raniganj.

[00:40:49]>> [laughter] >> Mission Raniganj?

[00:40:51]>> Hey the A Deccan movie wasn't bad. I mean the original was Oh you meant it seriously.

[00:40:55]>> I meant it seriously.

[00:40:56]>> The original the original was superb like Surya was Soorarai Pottru was amazing. Same director.

[00:41:01]>> Yeah.

[00:41:02]>> Soorarai Pottru correct.

[00:41:02]>> He made na they made You seen this movie?

[00:41:05]>> No no.

[00:41:05]>> It's Radhika Madan romancing Akshay Kumar.

[00:41:08]>> Oh no.

[00:41:08]>> I mean And that's not yeah.

[00:41:11]>> No but but I mean they justified she's much younger in age also the wife and all.

[00:41:15]>> They do that?

[00:41:15]>> Oh they acknowledge it.

[00:41:16]>> They acknowledge it?

[00:41:17]>> Of course.

[00:41:17]>> You can't not get You can't get away with >> that all the time.

[00:41:20]>> You can't not [laughter] acknowledge it.

[00:41:20]You can get away with You can get away with it of course you can. I'm on the other side I'm taking up for him for my industry now.

[00:41:27]>> Yeah I'm telling you that's all that's happening. [laughter] >> Sorry so just later one mail is coming to him later saying just So So Suneel Darshan of course Raja Hindustani Mela Dharmesh the Darshan brothers we've got covered.

[00:41:39]>> I think Abbas Mustan also fall under guilty pleasure for me.

[00:41:42]>> They do.

[00:41:42]>> I watch a lot.

[00:41:43]>> They do. I mean like the later Abbas Mustan.

[00:41:45]>> 100%.

[00:41:46]>> They're around.

[00:41:46]>> I didn't not guilty. I didn't mean the later Abbas Mustan. I meant like the later films of Abbas Mustan.

[00:41:52]>> [laughter] >> Yeah like Humraaz Ajnabee >> Tarzan the Wonder Car?

[00:41:56]>> Tarzan the Wonder Car iconic.

[00:41:57]>> Yeah.

[00:41:58]>> Yeah.

[00:41:58]>> That's there.

[00:41:59]>> Yeah yeah.

[00:41:59]>> That's there.

[00:42:00]>> And then they made a machine they made a machine movie.

[00:42:03]>> Machine heart is the only machine that beats.

[00:42:05]Mustafa was launched.

[00:42:06]>> That's right that's right. And they made the Kapil Sharma films na Kis Kisko Pyaar Karoon which I have to say I didn't see.

[00:42:13]>> I have to say I didn't see one.

[00:42:15]>> One I saw one which was a >> blockbuster >> Before before one was a one was a blockbuster.

[00:42:21]Two didn't do that well.

[00:42:22]>> Didn't do that well, I think, yeah.

[00:42:24]>> No idea that there's a two also.

[00:42:25]>> Because two came out >> They do two came out couldn't have done well.

[00:42:29]Let's give it another shot.

[00:42:30]>> Two came out when what what must not be named released.

[00:42:33]>> Okay. Okay.

[00:42:34]>> And they re-released it when what must not be named part two released and both [laughter] times it got pummeled at the box office. And it was it was basically Pakistan versus Parul Gulati at the box office which was the clash.

[00:42:47]>> No guesses for who wins, yeah.

[00:42:48][laughter] Yeah.

[00:42:49]>> Parul Gulati wins.

[00:42:53]>> So you're stuck you're hung up on the Darshan brothers.

[00:42:55]>> I know the Darshan brothers I'm not hung up on. I think we can move on. We can move on to >> Raja Hindustani kiss scene is when my puberty hit.

[00:43:01]>> Raja Hindustani actually had every possible >> plot device >> plot problematic plot or character that you could do. They did >> The whole thing is I I mean I >> Love me Nishan was >> These films are the Oh god, that was all the >> Yeah, the guy the the South Indian guy who did the baby thing always.

[00:43:21]>> But you know the thing is you have to like I have to take a moment to say this as a disclaimer we should start with.

[00:43:26]Like these films you can't sort of view them from like the lens of today.

[00:43:30]>> 100% >> I mean these films were damn good in their times, YEAH.

[00:43:34]>> 100% >> YOU KNOW WE CAN KEEP A LOWER THIRD. We can keep the disclaimer on like smoking smoking kills. And these movies are not being used to promote >> I actually feel like these movies if you watch it now haven't aged as badly as today's movies. If you watch 10 years from now >> That's probably true. That's probably true. The the the I don't even know what to say the craft like technically maybe our films today maybe better because just you have you have more that you can play with. But yeah, I think in I I think in No, just in terms of pure entertainment value I think that they I think they still hold up.

[00:44:07]>> Yeah. Yeah, 100%.

[00:44:08]>> the worst now. I mean music is >> Without the music these guilty pleasures wouldn't work as well either. You're watching a lot of it because you remember the music also.

[00:44:15]>> I was I re-watched Mohra last night with my wife and I was showing it to her because she hadn't seen it and I was like you have you must watch because I have I mean we we've been spending the last week watching a lot of those Akshay two-handers where there would be Deepak Tijori or Sunil uh Saif and I was like this is probably the greatest two-hander that he's ever made.

[00:44:35]>> Yeah.

[00:44:36]>> Two so >> There was one called Keemat.

[00:44:38]>> Yeah, they are back.

[00:44:39]>> Which is Sholay.

[00:44:40]>> Keemat is Sholay.

[00:44:41]>> Sholay.

[00:44:42]>> It is the Saif film. It's and it was Keemat they are back.

[00:44:46]>> Is that what I know?

[00:44:46]>> Because it was the the second or the third they'd done Khiladi Anari Chor Sipahi and then this was Keemat.

[00:44:52]>> So they did a little bit of a cashing in on the whole >> the them together, right?

[00:44:55]>> The Tashan boys.

[00:44:56]>> That's the one where they dance to the leaf they were naked and they were they had the big >> What?

[00:45:00]>> big fig leaves.

[00:45:02]>> They had little bit of a like a like a homoerotic >> That's that's what they used to say, yeah.

[00:45:06]>> Even the Main Khiladi Tu Anari there's a lot of hip thrusting towards each other that they did in that film.

[00:45:12]>> It was >> I don't think anyone was smart enough to be consciously at that time.

[00:45:16]>> Yeah, yeah, THERE WAS NO >> WHAT IS he doing?

[00:45:18]>> Yeah, that's what he's doing. Cool, cool, cool.

[00:45:20]>> But I I liked it because in even those movies and Main Khiladi Tu Anari is a good example of a film that I think is a bit of a guilty pleasure only. Uh uh in fact a lot of like Main Khiladi Tu Anari Mohra to do a two-hander successfully and I I'm pretty sure you have to deal with the brunt of this currently given your >> It's very hard to do that.

[00:45:38]>> You can't do a two-hander anymore.

[00:45:39]>> You can't No one No one wants to do >> Unless you're secure like Saif I'm assuming who would probably do >> I mean Saif also now now what yeah I mean like I'm I'm saying you talk about the younger guys and you're in your prime is is when you're really taking the risk is when you're doing it in your or when you're really putting yourself out there is when you're doing it in your prime.

[00:45:53]No one wants to do it.

[00:45:54]>> Like Go Goa Gone is the last one I can remember now. After that the last two ones I can't remember anything else.

[00:45:58]>> I mean I'm sure there were more but >> There is no two-hander.

[00:46:02]>> no one wants to do >> Like Barfi That's not a two-hander.

[00:46:06]>> I mean, not in the same Yeah, yeah. I mean, >> But, there was a lead.

[00:46:09]>> But, lopsided. Lopsided in Ayushmann's favor.

[00:46:11]>> Yeah, there was a lead in >> Not really. I mean, lopsided.

[00:46:13]>> Performance-wise, of course, he knocked it off.

[00:46:14]>> Just took it away there.

[00:46:18]>> And I think it's films like that, that's why people don't do them anymore.

[00:46:21]Because, you know, like someone's going to get like someone's going to get completely Yeah.

[00:46:26]But, like someone's just going to walk away with it. So, it's not really going to be a two-hander.

[00:46:31]>> Someone overshadows it. Like Like in Cocktail, like Deepika overshadowed Diana Penty. That kind of I think you don't want to be in that situation where you're compared.

[00:46:37]>> I'm very excited for like a bunch of two-handers that are going to come out now.

[00:46:40]>> More girls are doing those kind of movies now. Like whatever Varun Dhawan is doing has two girls.

[00:46:45]>> But, that has never changed. Like, the girls will always be a little bit get that second class. Like, you'll have to do it. Like, girls have to do.

[00:46:51]>> Sure, they have to be Yeah.

[00:46:55]>> Like, in fact, that that one movie that I saw recently where Mrunal Thakur was paired opposite Chunky Pandey.

[00:47:01]>> Yeah. Uh this one with >> Son of Sardar Son of Sardar 2.

[00:47:03]>> Son of Sardar 2. I haven't seen that.

[00:47:05]>> Son of Sardar 2.

[00:47:05]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:06]>> Yeah, not a guilty pleasure.

[00:47:07]>> No.

[00:47:08]>> Not a pleasure.

[00:47:11]>> BUT, DEEPAK DOBRIYAL, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE like it's a He's playing a gay character. And it's I felt like it was sensitively shown for a movie in that universe. performed with a lot of integrity.

[00:47:23]HE REALLY HE'S NOT MOCKING IT. He's not mocking the character.

[00:47:27]>> He's not mocking it because he's a gifted actor.

[00:47:30]But, it is a full punchline There are multiple punchlines of Tere It's happening. So, like Akansha, your woke audience is gone.

[00:47:41]>> I have stuff to say [laughter] about it, which I can flip it, but I won't because it's a very delicate territory to like thread. Yeah. But, one more Londa film because I started with Londa.

[00:47:51]I'll go. I'll go.

[00:47:53]I really enjoyed watching Pyaar Ka Punchnama.

[00:47:56]>> The first one was Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:47:58]>> It was very entertaining. It was very like But haha.

[00:48:03]I felt very eeked out. You know, I reviewed it. I reviewed it and here's something I'm going to say that that my old friends will sort of want to punch me. I I feel like there is a hat that you're wearing when you're a critic and I feel like sometimes you're taking I can't speak for others actually. I shouldn't speak for anyone else. I I I I recognize as I step back that that sometimes you're taking yourself too seriously. You you I don't think I enjoyed Pyaar Ka Punchnama as much as I the first one as much as I should have and I and I have subsequently.

[00:48:37]I think I think there are times unconsciously subconsciously that you are feeling like you're protecting the audience from you know, from what I don't know.

[00:48:47]And in retrospect I really enjoyed it.

[00:48:49]And then by the time Sonu Ke Titu because the problems are the same.

[00:48:53]SONU KE TITU BUT BY THAT TIME I was shameless. I like this film. I really like this film.

[00:49:00]Sonu Ke Titu was amazing. Sonu Ke Titu also like I think Pyaar Ka Punchnama was a sleeper hit, no? It grew an audience so Sonu Ke Titu was in kind of instant.

[00:49:07]It was a little bit like new actor, new director, everything new and and it was that one that just yeah.

[00:49:13]In fact two was by by the time two came out I was like all this pretense of like are yeah I mean I'm just going to like embrace it now. And I I enjoyed it a lot more than than I than my review would have said about one.

[00:49:25]In retrospect I've I've gone back and visited one and I was like good fun, yeah. What was I thinking?

[00:49:31]And Omkar Kapoor brought it and had Sunny Singh. Yes. He was also in The first Sunny Singh is hilarious in De De Pyaar De One if you've seen it.

[00:49:41]He plays the ex-boyfriend who comes in.

[00:49:44]He's got some terrific comic timing.

[00:49:46]Sunny has this and and we disclaimer he has this sort of spoker face thing that he you know, he does that really well like he's yeah easy to do he does it very well he was very hard to play that role because it's a Karthik Aryan being the slight alpha funny whatever he's playing the subdued sweet and gentle also that's all he was originally I've seen it's like a Bala it's the Bala type of it released also very close to each other strangely nothing as strange as Lucknow Central and Carry Band >> [laughter] >> OG You're too Lucknow Central Carry Band controversy but I feel like Luv Ranjan peaked in his first movie and then it's gotten progressively worse Sonu was very good Sonu Ke Titu Ki Sweety was was very good I don't mind it I don't love that I mean I love Ranbir but I like Sonu he's very funny he's very funny I like the family I like the family dynamic I like Dimple it was a lot of it was good fun yeah she she she really she's really biting off we fight we drink we drink and fight over Titu and Titu and Makkar I don't even need to be drunk for Titu and Makkar >> [laughter] >> you get abusive when you drink and talk about that I think it's different from the from Luv Ranjan's last film so I I I remember feeling it's trying to be progressive but it's really not so I'm like just because Pyaar Ka Punchnama is unabashedly I'm too lonely so pick your lane and stick to it like right don't don't do this murky in the middle we will give you know like this daughter-in-law is agency and all that but balls like you're not giving any agency but balls WHAT DO [laughter] YOU WANT THAT'S BUT BALLS I'M CHANNELING MY PYAAR KA Punchnama Your Londa energy is what's troubling us at this [laughter] point if I was a boy I would be PKP type I feel should we do her you would be you definitely be a PKP Londa bro should we do a scene from any film that is the sort of a guilty pleasure scene that has stayed in your mind I know your I have mine yeah I know it's locked and loaded do you have any particular scene or movie I have a film that actually I was saving for the end because because it's a film that I don't think a lot of people have seen. Um It's a film called Dunno Y Na Jaane Kyun. Have you heard of this film?

[00:51:55]>> Yes, the first the first gay love story made in India.

[00:51:57]>> the first, I'm sure, but like It is it is the gift that never stops giving. If you can get a hold of it, it it's it's just it is genius. And I know that I mean we're not allowed to you know we shouldn't be making like fun of like gay films and stuff. It is absolutely spectacularly one of the best things I've ever seen. And it is a film that you have to watch with friends or very very drunk.

[00:52:22]Uh best enjoyed uh very very drunk. It is genius. First of all, I want to start with the cast. They their supporting cast was Zeenat Aman, Helen, [gasps] Kabir Bedi.

[00:52:34]I mean they had like some amazing actors. They made a sequel which I could never you know I I I I requested them to I I requested to see the film like a preview or all. They had seen my review of the first one. They were never letting me anywhere close to that one.

[00:52:45]And I didn't end up seeing that, but I I I also felt like it'll ruin the it'll ruin the high of the first. It is one of the best movies ever. You I I remember going for the preview and and at that time like you know film critics were shown films that produced. And I remember laugh the the the the actor come writer director one of the actors Both the actors were in the room and we were laughing so loudly. Like it was we could there was no pretend like you couldn't even pretend to like you it was just like it was like like the another time this happened was in Love Aaj Kal 2. Also I remember the whole remember feeling very bad for Imtiaz and all who was standing at the back of the room and the whole audience like the all the critics it was critics were just laughing away. So this was Dunno Y you couldn't hold it. You it was just there was and and it's called Dunno Y. D U N N O Dunno Y Na Jaane Kyun.

[00:53:34]BUT THEY GOT THEY THEY MANAGED to get all these people. They got Lata Mangeshkar to sing the title song. They got Helen. They got Zeenat Aman. They got Kabir Bedi.

[00:53:43]He was Zeenat Aman's husband who has left her. So now her name is Rachel or Rebecca, Rebecca I think.

[00:53:49]>> So Kabir Bedi playing himself.

[00:53:51]>> And then he comes back and then he >> [laughter] >> And then he comes back to accept her by which time I think she there is one funny scene Christmas scene or something where they're all playing all these grown-ups are playing passing the parcel.

[00:54:07]>> [music] >> And she has a she has a pervert boss. I don't remember who the actor was, but at one point they're walking on the road or something.

[00:54:19]And he sees a mannequin in a in a lingerie store and he and Zeenat Aman by now was still in her 50s.

[00:54:26]Like he was saying I want to see you in this something creepy like that. So she slaps him and and the punishment was you can slap somebody and she chooses to I'm sorry, this is no fun. You have to see it to >> I really want to I really want to You have to see the antithesis to Onir cinema, no?

[00:54:41]>> Like absolutely. Yeah, what Onir is Like really >> He spent his life trying to like make I Am and My Brother Nikhil and Pursuing and he's making all these and then this guy and I know because this fellow also had some beef with Onir or the lead actor that made some accusation which of course I don't think >> No, no, it was it was yeah, it was kind of then he anyway, yeah.

[00:54:59]>> Some type of a stunt or something it was. But yeah, but this is the this is the this is the antithesis to Onir cinema.

[00:55:04]>> It's you >> I have to watch >> Please, you have to I don't know where it is. I think it's on YouTube or something. Find it and record it before it becomes I like make you have a copy like save yourself a copy. I'm pretty sure I have a a file on my computer.

[00:55:15]>> You're not a you're not a Style and Excuse Me kind of guy?

[00:55:18]>> No, yeah, I don't I I No, no, I don't >> That's >> [laughter] >> That's Onir's rapid fire. A Style guy?

[00:55:23]No, let's move on, okay?

[00:55:25]>> Yeah, no, no. Sahil Khan, Sahil Khan was another gift.

[00:55:29]>> Big one. He's a gift that keeps giving.

[00:55:30]Yeah.

[00:55:31]>> Yeah, he was >> Protein shakes. He was also in um Aladin which >> Riteish Deshmukh and Bachchan >> Amitabh Bachchan is there.

[00:55:39]>> He was the genie.

[00:55:40]>> That's a Sujoy Ghosh film, right?

[00:55:41]>> That's right.

[00:55:42]>> Have you seen it?

[00:55:42]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:55:43]>> You've seen it?

[00:55:43]>> Yes. Like when it released back >> It had some like ad labs. It was like some something there was some Was it like there was some Was it the first big VFX ad lab?

[00:55:52]>> was a It was one of the first big VFX movies.

[00:55:55]>> Yeah.

[00:55:56]>> Yeah. And he was just He also did Sahil Khan also did Rama the Savior. If anyone has seen Rama the Savior was a children's movie. It was like a Mowgli >> Why are you doing this?

[00:56:04]>> He should not be exposed to children.

[00:56:05]Children >> He was Rama the Savior. He was like >> [laughter] >> He was I don't I don't know. It was like if Vidyut Jamwal and Khali had a child.

[00:56:14]Like he's what Sahil Khan in his prime was. But what that gave us was But what style gave us was Sharman Sharman.

[00:56:21]>> Such a fantastic actor.

[00:56:22]>> Terrific actor, great body of work, and has slipped in some guilty pleasure films in the middle.

[00:56:27]>> I I can't remember which ones, but >> Hate Story. He's done a Hate Story.

[00:56:30]>> He's done a Hate Story, too.

[00:56:31]>> He did a couple three or four.

[00:56:32]>> No, no, no. He was the main >> Wasn't he the first one?

[00:56:35]>> No, first is Gulshan Devaiah.

[00:56:37]>> That's right.

[00:56:38]>> That's right.

[00:56:38]>> First is Gulshan Devaiah.

[00:56:39]>> Yes. I've seen this one.

[00:56:41]>> And Mohan Kapoor.

[00:56:43]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:56:45]>> Wasn't the first one?

[00:56:47]>> Yeah.

[00:56:48]>> Anubhav Sinha? Wasn't it Anubhav >> No.

[00:56:49]>> No, no. It's Vivek [laughter] Agnihotri.

[00:56:52]>> He only makes Hate Stories.

[00:56:53]>> Of course. Yeah.

[00:56:55]>> Good [laughter] one. That was a good one. That was a very good one. Joke of the of the episode. That was a good one.

[00:57:02]>> You say a scene, which scene stays with you?

[00:57:04]>> A scene that stays >> in my mind? Uh I there I There there was a cheaper Pyaar Ka Punchnama that was made.

[00:57:10]>> Tell me. Tell me.

[00:57:11]>> It was a Pyaar Ka Punchnama before Pyaar Ka Punchnama. I can't name any actor on it, but I'm pretty sure I've seen one of them in like one of these in the love universe, man, as the randoms. Uh called Sadda Adda.

[00:57:24]>> I feel like I've heard this film, but I don't know.

[00:57:26]>> Sadda Adda came out, and I remember we were we were we we had an exam the next day, but somehow we went and saw it, and it's just that It's about It's like It's like if Tu Hai Mera Sunday was was made by someone was not made by someone who had any craft or any skill.

[00:57:43]It was It was a Like how Tu Hai Mera Sunday is about four Like four five boys and about nothing. Little nothing. It's a film about a slice-of-life film about nothing. This is genuine. I love Tu Hai Mera Sunday. One of the top top Varun Sobti, respect, and Vishal Malhotra.

[00:57:57]>> Yeah.

[00:57:58]>> They saw the one that you were saying Saath Saath Waar.

[00:58:00]>> Usme koi I don't know kaun hai.

[00:58:01]>> No, but is it like a North Indian >> Four londhas living in a Noida flat.

[00:58:06]They all have jobs, and it's very Pyar Ka Punchnama.

[00:58:09]>> I love it.

[00:58:10]>> All the women are trying to All the women are like pay my bills.

[00:58:13]All the you know >> [laughter] >> There's one of them who wants to be an actor to go theater rehearsal pe jaata rehta hai. And you know then a producer asks to sleep with him. Like it it it was whatever. It was It was all I love I love that film.

[00:58:26]>> So I have Saath Saath Waar. You have another?

[00:58:27]>> Scene I have.

[00:58:28]>> Scene you >> Yeah, yeah. So Om Jai Jagdish, like I said I >> [laughter] >> I feel >> I feel like I can write PhD theses on this. So there Basically Urmila Matondkar comes to India, gets married to Fardeen Khan, right? And on the day of their wedding, she has to You know how you get into a car and you go to your new ghar sasural and all that. So her parents are very rich, so they're like, "We've got a Mercedes. We've decorated it."

[00:58:46]>> There is Om Bhaiya.

[00:58:48]>> is like, "No, you must go in a khatara Fiat because men should decide who sits where, >> Unke Babuji ki yaadein judi thi uske saath, Akanksha. There is a limit to this nonsense. [laughter] >> And there are like eight people sitting in the Fiat, and the car stops. And then she's like, "What the hell? Like it's my It's the day of my wedding. I could have just gone and done that." But the lensing of the movie is that she's the problem.

[00:59:10]>> [laughter] >> Right. Because yeah.

[00:59:12]>> Because like why she not appreciate >> modern girl >> Correct.

[00:59:18]>> Jagdish is like "Yeh ghar badal raha hai."

[00:59:20]Yeh ghar badal raha hai, but that is so true.

[00:59:23]>> Don't >> When women enter men's lives, just ghar badal jaate hain, Akanksha.

[00:59:27]>> True.

[00:59:28]>> Is all Is all the takeaway that we >> There's also like the the sequence where she looks at the food and she's like you can oily hair.

[00:59:38]>> She doesn't say no no no don't misrepresent Urmila in that movie. Check the movie did. She sits on the table and they all like oh we'll eat together you do that and all that and she's like little hesitant to eat cuz she's like oh I don't want to eat all this. And they start commenting on it.

[00:59:54]>> definitely says oily hair she picks up the >> Later when they probe her to hog she's like I don't want to hog I don't want to eat this food.

[01:00:02]>> But I told you I made her a salad in that case.

[01:00:05]>> She's made pasta.

[01:00:08]>> I'm just telling you to marry the wedding.

[01:00:10]>> elephant and memory >> Yeah [laughter] we don't have much going on.

[01:00:15]>> There's a very good scene in that movie where Abhishek Bachchan hacks what is I would assume Infosys like a parallel of Infosys.

[01:00:22]>> Of course [laughter] Sharma playing Narayan Shastri.

[01:00:24]>> Narayan Shastri he's like I've hacked it.

[01:00:27]>> [laughter] >> He doesn't He's a pizza delivery boy. Who goes and they're like um He's like [laughter] boy you have you have 60 seconds boy to prove me that you can hack you can make anti-hacking. He's like okay.

[01:00:46]Your time is up [laughter] young lad and then he goes and then works at NIIT all night and comes back and then in 60 seconds solves >> He's made a he's made a software which is anti-hacking.

[01:00:55]>> All right okay.

[01:00:58]100 seconds can do that.

[01:01:02]Your system can track the stuff.

[01:01:06]All the jewelry can be tracked.

[01:01:07]>> This reminds me of I mean no relation but >> [laughter] >> but related of a scene in Fiza. You remember Fiza?

[01:01:14]Where where Karisma Kapoor's brother has gone missing the whole film is about right he's the terrorist.

[01:01:20]And he's gone missing and she has to find him and stuff and how does she find out he's a terrorist? On Google she sees a [laughter] printout on Google and that's how she finds out he may have become a terrorist because his photo shows up. HIS PHOTO SHOWS UP AS a terrorist.

[01:01:34]>> All right. Okay.

[01:01:38]>> What do you mean?

[01:01:40]>> It was Hrithik's >> What do you mean?

[01:01:41]>> I thought in fact I didn't I just remembered Khalid Mohammed made this movie. I thought he made it. Did he make Zubeida or am I wrong?

[01:01:47]>> Zubeida he wrote. He wrote Zubeida.

[01:01:48]>> And it's about >> Well, his his mom and his it's about his aunt.

[01:01:52]>> Zubeida was his mom.

[01:01:53]>> I think Zubeida was his mom. Mumtaz was his grandma.

[01:01:55]>> Yeah, I mean they they they were Ansari Begum. He wrote those three wonderful films that which Shyam Benegal directed.

[01:02:00]All those three.

[01:02:01]>> Khamush Pani he didn't make.

[01:02:02]>> No, Khamush Pani was a Pakistani film.

[01:02:03]>> Oh. Oh, HOW DARE WE?

[01:02:06]>> [laughter] >> YES.

[01:02:07]>> CUT THIS OUT.

[01:02:08]>> How could you?

[01:02:09]>> Never again. Khuda Ke Liye will not be discussed here. But I think that's where we are unless we want to do one final reco for the audience where you tell the audience on your camera one guilty pleasure movie.

[01:02:20]>> That's Dunno Y. There is there is no film. I promise you it is the gift that never stops giving. Dunno Y Na Jaane Kyun. You'll I mean [laughter] good luck finding it. There'll be a torrent somewhere if you can't find it. Yeah, it'll be it's there. It is You can thank me later.

[01:02:34]>> Okay. That's it and that I think we're done then with our conversation. Thank you.

[01:02:38]>> I saved that for the last time. I'm sorry. Yeah, this was like an yeah, that that's it. That's it.

[01:02:43]>> And that's exactly what Mr. Masand will say to himself when asked why he came on this show. He'll be like Dunno Y. Na Jaane Kyun is why he was here. Cheers.

[01:02:53]Thank you so much for coming.

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[01:03:24]>> I'm certainly going to be JOBLESS AFTER THIS.

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[01:03:33]>> And we are done.