MAGA Pundit Andrew Wilson HUMILIATES Himself During Heated Debate

[00:00:00]I have mag of people sending people to my house. I have Laura Loomer in my box all day telling me she's telling Trump to keep talking negatively about me.

[00:00:07]Trump post Trump posted something about me. He told me to shut the [ __ ] up. So I got arrested four times for this guy, spent months in prison for this guy, did everything for this guy, censored, lawsuit, everything. Lost all my social media, kept supporting him. And then what is the one recognition I get from him? [ __ ] you, shut up.

[00:00:24]>> Yeah, what is going on everybody?

[00:00:25]Welcome back to the channel. So this one is absolutely wild. We have got Andrew Wilson going head-to-head with Owen Shroyer in a full debate over whether this current administration has actually been successful or not. And what makes this one different from every other political debate you have seen is that Owen is not coming from the left. He is a guy who went to prison multiple times for supporting the very person he is now criticizing. So when these two start going back and forth, everything from the economy to foreign policy to broken promises, it gets personal in a way I was not expecting. Trust me, you are going to want to stay for the entire thing because the final few minutes of this clip hit completely different. Also drop a comment and let me know where you are tuning in from today. I always love seeing how far this community reaches.

[00:01:06]All right, let us get right into it.

[00:01:08]>> Are you going to blame Are you going to blame market speculators? [applause] >> I'm going to blame Trump for getting us into another war on Israel's behalf.

[00:01:14]Yes, I am going to blame Trump for that.

[00:01:15]He did that.

[00:01:16]>> So so help me out here.

[00:01:18]Can you tell me all of the downsides of Donald Trump killing pedophiles in the Middle East?

[00:01:24]>> [laughter] >> Um first of all, do you know every single person Were those school girls pedophiles?

[00:01:29]>> It's institutionalized in the Iranian government.

[00:01:32]>> were the 200 school girls pedophiles?

[00:01:34]>> We want to make sure that they're alive so they don't get raped.

[00:01:36]>> [laughter] >> But that aside, uh no, of course not.

[00:01:39]But there's going to be deaths inside of a war.

[00:01:41]>> Okay, so it is a war.

[00:01:43]>> Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't a war. I'm not going to approve of the word even though there's no ground invasion, there's no boots on the ground, there's none of that. I just want to know how is the global interest served? You're so concerned about pedophiles. He killed one of the most major ones who's ever existed since 1970 the late 1970s. He constantly >> friends with >> He put it inside of the constitution of Iran that you can marry nine-year-old girls, dude. And by the way, Khomeini Khomeini Hold on, hold on, I'm almost done. Khomeini was married to a to a 15-year-old. Perhaps by the lunar cycle could have been 14. His son was married to a 14 or 15-year-old. A lot of his high command were married to children as well. Trump killed all of them. All of them without a single boot on the ground.

[00:02:21]>> [applause] >> Great. And uh I'm sure after we've killed thousands of Iranians including young schoolgirls and the entire family, I'm sure that the Iranians are going to be less radicalized because of that. So, I'm not mad >> Radicalized? What do you mean? How do you get more radicalized than marrying children, dude?

[00:02:38]>> The What do you think they're going to stop?

[00:02:40]>> about?

[00:02:40]>> they're going to stop?

[00:02:42]>> No, well I'm just saying how do you get more radicalized You're like, "Oh, the Iranians are going to get more radicalized." Than marrying kids? Like all the United States blowing up the pedophiles is going to really make them mad.

[00:02:51]>> How many How many countries has Iran been bombing this year?

[00:02:54]>> Well, Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. You agree with that?

[00:02:57]>> Israel a state sponsor of terrorism?

[00:02:59]>> I think that that Israel's done many terrorist actions.

[00:03:01]>> a state sponsor of terrorism?

[00:03:02]>> I don't think that America generally is a state sponsor of terrorism.

[00:03:05]>> Okay, well in the Obama administration it's very well known we were arming moderate rebels that turned into ISIS and turned into ISIL. So, so America backs these proxy groups. The CIA backs these proxy >> was due to Bush doctrine.

[00:03:17]>> And now Trump isn't Now Trump is Bush.

[00:03:19]>> Trump has When? When Where's the forever war?

[00:03:22]Not a single boot on the ground.

[00:03:23]>> We've been in the Middle East the majority of Trump's administration.

[00:03:26]>> on the ground in Iran?

[00:03:28]Answer the question, bro.

[00:03:29]>> since >> Is there a single boot on the Okay, where?

[00:03:32]>> Where?

[00:03:33]All over the Middle East. We have boots on the >> No, in Iran. In Iran. Where's our invasionary force?

[00:03:38]>> We got people in the street. We're talking about going to Kargil.

[00:03:41]>> We had 7,000 people there and now there's 10,000 people there. Where's the big invasionary force to take over Iran?

[00:03:48]>> So, okay, fine. I'll tell you what.

[00:03:49]WHERE IS IT AT? IF If they do go into Iran, what will you say then?

[00:03:52]>> Yeah. Well, at that point I'm done.

[00:03:54]>> Okay, fair enough.

[00:03:55]>> It is the case I've drawn the line for myself that if there's a ground invasion of Iran, that would be a continuation >> What about casualties?

[00:04:01]>> Hang on. That would be a continuation of the Bush policy.

[00:04:04]>> What about casualties?

[00:04:05]>> Hang on, let me finish the point and I'll get to casualties, too.

[00:04:08]If it's the case that there's a mass ground invasion of Iran, um, then yeah, I would have to pull support then because that would be a continuation of Bush forever war doctrine. However, limited strikes like what we saw in Venezuela or 6 to 8 weeks, which is what we're seeing right now, that's not enough to pull my support from this president, especially with all of his success in domestic policy. Even if I grant you, and I'm not a fan of the war, I'm not an advocate of it, but even if I grant it that it's the worst thing he could have possibly done, it's not going to change the fact he's been a successful president. His domestic policies alone in eliminating crime and mass migration and being a net negative, that's what people wanted more than anything. It wasn't just the forever wars, it was the mass migration.

[00:04:48]That's what Trump always harped on. And he's been after it and after it and after it. And he did deploy the National Guard to protect uh these various centers in these cities while ICE was removing these people from the nation, Democrats did everything that they could do to stop him, including court cases, terrorism against them, and everything else in between.

[00:05:06]>> This is the moment where the mask comes completely off because when Andrew asks what the downsides are of going after those leaders in the Middle East, he frames it like there is no possible criticism. Like the only way you could oppose this is if you secretly support the worst people on the planet. And that is such a manipulative framing because it completely ignores the reality of what happens when you bomb a country.

[00:05:26]Owen hits back immediately and asks about the school girls. And that is the question that should make everyone stop and think because you cannot sit here and tell me that every single casualty in that region deserved what happened to them. You just cannot say that with a straight face. And the response he gets is essentially, "Well, people die in war." Oh, so now we are admitting it is a war because 5 minutes ago it was not a war. It was limited strikes. It was strategic. It was targeted. But the second someone asks about civilian casualty, suddenly yeah, war has consequences. You have to understand something. This is the oldest playbook in the book. Every single time a government wants to justify military action in another country, they wrap it in moral language. They say we are saving people. We are liberating them.

[00:06:06]We are protecting children. And then when you point out that children are actually dying in the process, they tell you well, that is the cost. Here is what people do not realize. Iran has not invaded a single country. Owen asks that directly. How many countries has Iran been bombing this year? And there is silence. Because the answer is zero.

[00:06:23]Meanwhile, the country doing the actual bombing is the one claiming moral superiority. And I think most people watching this can see through that. You do not get to bomb a nation and then lecture the world about protecting innocence. That is not how credibility works.

[00:06:36]>> It's like all of those show me that the guy's very successful, even if I grant it to you how bad Iran is.

[00:06:43]>> Well, I think that they made a major blunder on the deportations because now they're basically stopping them. They should have gone after the Democrats first. Quite frankly, they should have been arresting Democrats for treason.

[00:06:54]Uh Alejandro Mayorkas should have been the first arrest. He should have been hauled in front of Congress.

[00:06:59]And and you're a little you're you're a little too late going after the SPLC, in my opinion, which is now being uh funny enough, it's actually being directed at the right. They're now using this SPLC thing to claim that anybody that's a dissident on the right is paid for by leftist and needs to be censored. That seems to be the theme with that. But they should have gone after all of these groups right out of the gate, Andrew.

[00:07:19]They should have gone after all the Catholic charity groups, all the Jewish charity groups, all these groups all along the Rio Grande, all of these groups on the southern border, all the Democrats that brought them in, all the the Biden administration that brought them in. All of them should have been hauled to jail.

[00:07:31]>> Yeah, except except they have due process, Owen.

[00:07:34]>> And what process have they started?

[00:07:36]>> on. So So how do you know the SPLC >> Because there's no result.

[00:07:39]>> Tell me, how long did How long were you aware of the SPLC investigation?

[00:07:43]>> What are the charges? They're all >> Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

[00:07:45]Let's walk through this. When were you aware of the SPLC investigation? When they released it, right?

[00:07:49]>> Yes.

[00:07:49]>> Yeah. So, when they released it, you're not aware of what the Trump Justice Department is investigating or not investigating.

[00:07:55]>> evidence. You You're the only one that wants to talk about there's no evidence of your claim. Lack of evidence, lack of claim.

[00:07:59]>> Hang on. Hang on. He said multiple times that he wants to bring James Comey up on charges, right? He said multiple times that he wants to go after the >> Those charges got dropped.

[00:08:07]>> instructing his Justice Department to investigate these things. We're finally starting to see the fruit. My evidence is we're finally seeing the fruit with the SPLC. I'm guaranteeing you that there's going to be other organizations which are indicted for various things like this. This is exactly what it is that you said that you wanted. It's at least a step in the right direction.

[00:08:24]>> only been charged for financial crimes.

[00:08:26]They need to be charged for treason.

[00:08:28]>> They need to be charged for treason.

[00:08:29]>> Yeah. Al Capone Al Capone was not charged for his mob hits or for bootlegging. This guy's charged with financial crimes.

[00:08:35]>> You're not comparing Al Capone to 15 million invasion of this type.

[00:08:39]>> the case that you go to jail for 15 >> Al Capone is more of an American than Mayorkas.

[00:08:43]>> to jail for 15 years for the crime of murder or to jail for 15 years for the crime of financial for some type of financial fraud, you can prove the one but not the other. Which one would you go after?

[00:08:55]>> Uh I would go for it all. That's what the feds do. That's what they did to me.

[00:08:58]>> no, you wouldn't. If you could prove the one but not the other, you would go after the one you could prove.

[00:09:01]>> They always overcharge so they can get you a plea and get their incarceration rate and get their conviction rate. I would know. I've been through it before.

[00:09:08]>> Sure.

[00:09:08]>> Regardless, we're talking about almost 2 years into this administration and no deep state arrests. None.

[00:09:15]>> Who do you want to see arrested?

[00:09:16]>> I just told you Mayorkas. There's one.

[00:09:18]How about the Obama administration? How about John Brennan? How about James Clapper? How about James Comey?

[00:09:22]>> what your process would be to arrest them.

[00:09:24]>> Okay. First of all, Dan Bongino, who was the deputy director of the FBI, spent eight years eight years writing books and doing a podcast all about arresting these people. He gets in there and does none of it.

[00:09:38]>> Yeah.

[00:09:38]>> So so did >> Dan Bongino who talked about what was going on in the Epstein files ad nauseam, how none of it made sense.

[00:09:43]>> changed his mind.

[00:09:44]>> Because he went in and saw Here's what's funny. Why would anybody ever want to go work for the Trump administration from the private sector, especially somebody like Dan Bongino, if it's the case that he goes in, looks at the evidence, reviews it, and says, "Actually, I got this wrong." And you guys [ __ ] crucify him for it.

[00:09:58]You crucify him for saying, "Look, I got this wrong."

[00:10:02]And it's like, why would anybody ever want to go work for the Trump administration if that's going to be the case, Owen?

[00:10:06]>> Imagine that. You give us a little peek into what's [snorts] going on in the Epstein files, and it makes people even more aware and more suspicious.

[00:10:15]>> And here is where the conversation shifts to something that should bother everyone regardless of what side you are on. Owen starts naming names. He says Alejandro Mayorkas should have been arrested. He brings up officials from previous administrations. He talks about people who he believes committed serious offenses against this country. And what does he get back? Due process. Now, look, I am all for due process. That is a foundational principle. But Owen makes a point that is hard to argue with. He says we are almost 2 years into this administration, and there have been zero arrests of any of these people. Not one.

[00:10:45]And this is coming from someone who was told for years that these arrests were coming, that the hammer was about to drop, that justice was right around the corner. And then nothing. Absolutely nothing. And then the Dan Bongino point is actually brilliant. Because here is a guy who spent 8 years on podcasts and in books talking about how all these people needed to be locked up. He builds an entire brand around it. Gets millions of followers. Sells books. Does speaking tours. And then he actually gets inside the administration and suddenly changes his entire position. Now, think about that for a second. You know what that reminds me of? It is like someone campaigning to be health inspector for years saying this restaurant is disgusting. They are poisoning people.

[00:11:22]And then they get the job and come back and say, "Actually, the kitchen is fine.

[00:11:25]I was wrong." Either you were lying before to build your audience, or something happened when you got inside that changed your mind. And neither of those options is good. Either way, regular people got played. They donated money. They shared content. They believed something was coming.

[00:11:39]And the people who told them to believe just moved on like nothing happened.

[00:11:43]>> And then you say there's no there there.

[00:11:45]If anything, our peek at the Epstein files showed us that there is something serious there.

[00:11:50]Very serious. Never look, not only have you never provided any evidence for that, but your other problem is you didn't actually answer my question.

[00:11:57]What incentivization would would Like let's say Trump drafted you to go to his administration to investigate these things and you you went in good faith and you did. And you came back and you were like, look, I took a look at all this evidence and I was wrong about this. And then all of your friends and cohorts and everybody else who was cheering you on [ __ ] crucified you for it.

[00:12:16]>> You know what, Andrew? It's funny that you say that because that's literally happening to me right now.

[00:12:20]>> From who?

[00:12:21]>> That's literally happening to me from this new MAGA right cult.

[00:12:24]>> Who? I I already did this. I already put my time in. I was arrested for it.

[00:12:28]>> it.

[00:12:29]Hold on a second.

[00:12:30]>> Hold on a second. For four four different times I was arrested for supporting Trump, okay? Now, I can You like Trump, I don't like Trump. Now, beyond the point. I already went through that crucible. I already put my face, my name, my neck out there and it's not even that I necessarily did it for Trump. I did it for the truth because I believed Trump was innocent and I wanted to support it. So, I've already been through that.

[00:12:50]>> Uh I have I have MAGA people putting me on lists. I have MAGA people doxing me.

[00:12:55]I have MAGA people sending people to my house. I have Laura Loomer in my box all day telling me she's telling Trump people things negatively about me.

[00:13:03]>> Trump post Trump posted something about me. He told me to shut the [ __ ] up. So, I got arrested four times for this guy, spent months in prison for this guy, did everything for this guy, censored, lawsuit, everything, lost all my social media, kept supporting him. And then what is the one recognition I get from him? [ __ ] you, shut up. I don't even care. I didn't even do I did it because it's the truth. And now the truth is this administration has turned against us. MAGA house been weaponized against us and Trump is now the very globalist that we were supposed to get out of the White House.

[00:13:31]>> ironically hilarious.

[00:13:33]So, the first [applause] the first thing [cheering] that you claim, you say, "Hey, look, I was crucified for my support of Donald Trump by Democrats."

[00:13:41]Do you agree it's by Democrats?

[00:13:43]>> Well, actually, well, first it was by Republicans cuz we were going up against >> Trumpers.

[00:13:47]>> Yeah.

[00:13:47]>> Like you are right now.

[00:13:49]>> No, I'm not a Never Trumper. I voted for him three times.

[00:13:51]>> what what happened is well, now you're like, "Ah, he's the worst thing ever."

[00:13:54]>> No, I'm saying he's failed. This administration has failed.

[00:13:57]>> failed. And when you're talking about this, Democrats were the ones who persecuted you. Democrats were the ones who threw you in jail. They were the ones who didn't want to give you a fair trial. Me and my wife, we advocated for the release of J6ers everywhere that we possibly could, yourself included.

[00:14:09]>> And I will give Trump that. That is the biggest victory. I will never regret voting for Trump because he did that.

[00:14:13]Never.

[00:14:13]>> huge victory, okay? But not only that, let's dive into this a little bit deeper.

[00:14:18]When you're talking about your supposed crucifixion now by the right, Trump hasn't shut down your channels. He hasn't done any of that. Under Biden, that was a sure thing to have happened.

[00:14:28]>> sure that's not going to happen soon.

[00:14:30]>> You say going to hasn't though. Okay, under Biden it was a >> Isn't that the whole point? Is none of this stuff has happened under Trump, and they're saying, "Oh, but it could."

[00:14:37]>> on. Under Biden, no, it's not. Under Biden, it would have for sure. He was working with Facebook and these other groups in order to shut down people who had podcasts.

[00:14:45]>> This right here is the moment of this entire debate because when Owen says that is literally happening to me right now from this new MAGA cult, you can hear it in his voice. This is not a talking point. This is not a debate strategy. This man is telling you that the movement he sacrificed everything for has turned on him completely. He got arrested four times. He sat in solitary confinement. He lost his platforms. He lost income. He faced lawsuits. And he did all of it because he genuinely believed he was fighting for something real. And then after all of that, the only acknowledgement he receives is being told to shut up. Let me tell you something. That is what a cult looks like. When you give everything to a cause, and the moment you ask a question or express a concern, you get attacked by the very people you stood beside.

[00:15:26]That is not a political movement anymore. That is a loyalty test. And the saddest part is Owen is not even saying he regrets his beliefs. He is saying he did it for the truth. He believed in what he was standing for. But the machine does not care about truth. It cares about obedience. And the second you stop being obedient, you become the enemy. And now you have people sending threats to his house. You have public figures in his inbox trying to destroy his reputation. All because he dared to say maybe this is not going the way we were promised. And I think that is the real story here. Not the policy debates, not the economic numbers. The real story is that ordinary people who put their necks on the line are being chewed up and spit out the moment they stop clapping. And if that does not make you question what this movement has actually become, then I do not know what will.

[00:16:08]So, what do you guys think of this?

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