TOY STORY 5 - Movie Review

[00:00:00]But man, these these new tech toys that come up or the new the new smart toys, they just they're just not I don't I didn't find myself uh emotionally attached to them or connecting with them at all. And I think that that's because uh again, there's just too many characters going on in here.

[00:00:21]>> Let's talk about these these toys. Toys?

[00:00:25]What are those? What are these, Papa?

[00:00:28]What are these mysterious things called toys?

[00:00:33]>> Things that millennials bought. You were younger.

[00:00:36]>> Those that's that's old people stuff, ain't it?

[00:00:39]>> Yeah, it kind of is.

[00:00:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. Boy, have you have you not heard the toy apocalypse is here? The age of toys is over. Long live the toys.

[00:00:49]>> Yeah. Folks, ever since these these things, these pads out here, >> these devices, this technology, >> these devices are so divisive.

[00:01:00]>> They really are. They really are.

[00:01:04]I don't even know if they're divisive.

[00:01:05]We're all becoming just one big one big hive mind of the net. You know this, for those who uh might remember what toys are, >> they actually used to come alive when you left the room.

[00:01:20]>> Sure.

[00:01:20]>> And plot against you if you weren't playing with them, >> which is why we had to get rid of them.

[00:01:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Cuz one of these days, so far they've been cool. How do we get these kids to play with us? One of these days going to be like, "No, they've got to die."

[00:01:31]>> Cuz these toys live a miserable existence. Can you imagine every time somebody walked in the room, you had to just play dead and couldn't move, couldn't do anything?

[00:01:39]>> Sure.

[00:01:40]>> Yeah. Yeah. And knowing your obsolescence is only a few years away.

[00:01:44]>> Exactly. And you can only hope if maybe you'll get passed off to another kid.

[00:01:49]You might end up in a landfill >> or be behind the bed forever.

[00:01:53]>> Behind the bed.

[00:01:54]>> A landfill. A donation box.

[00:01:56]>> Or you'll be one of those. Maybe you hung on to your toys forever. And on your deathbed you say, "I want to be buried WITH MY with my favorite toy."

[00:02:08]JESUS. NO. NO. NO.

[00:02:12]And this Toy Story universe is horrifying. Like just just the fact that it's just like this is now my toy. And now when I put it down and leave the room, it now has sentience that.

[00:02:21]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But like the toy wants to be played with, but the only time it gets to really be alive is when the kid leaves and isn't playing with it.

[00:02:28]>> It's life. It was like they're about to figure out you have you ever thought about this? If all the humans were gone, >> we could live.

[00:02:37]>> When that's going to be what? Toy Story 10. It's going to be like Planet of the Apes.

[00:02:41]>> There was a cracked article about that that Toy Story is the precursor to cars.

[00:02:45]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I don't blame him. So these toys must be stopped.

[00:02:53]So thank God we have a hero right here. Lily.

[00:03:00]Lily the the iPad or Lily the Pad.

[00:03:02]Lilyad. Lilyad.

[00:03:04]>> Yeah.

[00:03:05]>> Lily says, "You know what? All you toys are obsolete. They're into the new tech right now. The new thing which is me.

[00:03:12]You can be connected at all times every day. Not only can you be connected playing your favorite thing, watching your favorite thing, but there's no need to go out and make friends anymore. Your friends are all right here behind chat rooms, avatars.

[00:03:29]>> Pop Tropica and all that stuff.

[00:03:31]>> All of that.

[00:03:33]That's when Jesse, y'all remember Jesse the cowgirl? She says, "Now, hold on, [ __ ] Wait a minute. She's putting on.

[00:03:39]You know what, Bonnie? We just got passed off to this girl.

[00:03:44]We were We were just getting started with her. We just becoming her favorite toys. And now you want to come in and just ruin everything for everybody. This cannot be the case. So, how does as as cool as these as these toys are, a lot of them, poor old Woody Woody was outdated from the first movie. Sure. But Woody's out living his life.

[00:04:04]>> He is. He's He's like, "I I I see where this game."

[00:04:07]>> I saw the writing on the wall.

[00:04:10]>> I'm doing something new. We should have killed these.

[00:04:16]>> I mean, how many nights was he over Andy with a knife in his hand? I mean, Woody did go off to build a coalition of forgotten toys. Oh, no.

[00:04:22]>> So, it's like he's building an army.

[00:04:24]>> He's got Woody is the rebellion.

[00:04:25]>> Yeah. Woody is the Caesar of toys.

[00:04:29]>> But as for now, they still want these kids attention and they have to and they they have a point. They're saying, "Listen, if nothing else, this is not healthy for these kids." I mean, yeah, we want to be played with. We want to live, you know, we want to be loved, but at the same time, it's just weird and creepy how kids are becoming transfixed in front of a screen. If nothing else, we have to save him from that. And therefore, Jesse has to get the gang back together, Woody, Buzz, and everybody else in the gang, and see if they can win the love of Bonnie, who's having trouble making friends because she still plays with toys, >> which is like Bonnie, little girl.

[00:05:12]>> Yeah, maybe it's time.

[00:05:19]>> We bought you this for a reason. We bought you the damn hot pants and you quit being how the hell you get kicked out the sleepover.

[00:05:31]There's there's a lot going on here that's not being addressed. Go ahead.

[00:05:35]>> But also uh >> I mean there's there's a hell of a time jump where Andy's toys are probably doing nothing for seven years.

[00:05:42]>> Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. But also, can they save the rest of the kids out there who need to be somehow disconnected from all these screens? Let's go ahead and take a look at this trailer. You've seen some of it.

[00:05:58]We're going to pick it up again. Let's look at Toy Story some of the trailer for Toy Story 5.

[00:06:03]>> Buzz, you stay here. I'm going with them.

[00:06:05]>> You don't think I can do it?

[00:06:07]>> No.

[00:06:09]>> Nice poncho.

[00:06:11]>> It's good to see them fighting again. Is it though? That's what we're gonna talk about right now. Uh, so can't wait to see. Did you see this?

[00:06:20]>> I did not see this.

[00:06:21]>> Okay, so you just gonna sit back and listen.

[00:06:23]>> I'm gonna listen. Ask a couple question.

[00:06:25]I will warn you before the chat is already like, oh man, another Grumpy Martin review.

[00:06:30]>> Uhoh. Uhoh. Uhoh.

[00:06:32]>> Okay.

[00:06:34]Part part of the magic for the first three movies is meeting these characters for the first time and seeing their relationships evolve uh you know and seeing how uh they they form their relationships together and bond together to like face new challenges and that sense of discovery is gone by this point. I mean, we five in now, you know.

[00:06:57]I said, yeah, >> even when they introduce new characters, man, we don't get to know them very well like we did with Woody and Buzz because, you know, we got so many things to deal with at this point.

[00:07:07]>> And I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. Uh, for me, it has some advantages. Uh, it's it's more comfort than magic now. You know, when you go see them, you man, you just >> when you go see them, man, it's it's >> at this point it's just it's like hanging out with with old friends, >> you know? It's like it's like picking up where you left off, you know, like Buddy Booty Booty and W.

[00:07:37]Uh, no, you know, Woody, Buzz, man, man.

[00:07:39]I've known them for years, you know.

[00:07:41]Yeah, they cool, >> man. It's kind of like like you're hanging out with your old friends, but they brought a whole bunch of their co-workers that you don't know. So, you know, you can't just hang out with them.

[00:07:50]You got to meet all these other people who aren't nearly as fun or interesting.

[00:07:54]>> And you don't know them as long. You're not going to get to know them. You know, you don't have the same history. Like we we met Woody and Buzz, you know, just they wasn't forced.

[00:08:03]>> Yeah.

[00:08:04]>> You know, it's like, hey, man, you know, it's like when you meet somebody as a kid at a party or something. We met them and it felt organic and so we're not friends and we're cool. Yeah. Yeah, they brought a bunch of people. I was like, I I don't know them.

[00:08:14]>> Hey, this is my house, man. Don't be bringing people up to my house I don't know, right?

[00:08:18]>> You know, but >> but uh I I will say that it has helped me with some of my nervousness of Toy Story because I always said, man, they've been making these movies and I'm scared they're going to make a a bad one day. They've been lucky so far and I I don't really care anymore. It's like uh you know, I have my perfect trilogy with that. I I will always have that. Now, these feel like episodes of a good television show or or or maybe it's something that's gonna continue like all right, you know, uh uh Woody will be back like Bond or something like that, you know, they're like James Bond movies now. We're just waiting for for for the for the next the the the next installment.

[00:08:58]>> Uh and you know, and that's and one of the things I like about that is that all right, you know what? If we're going to if we're going to uh continue these movies, I think they were smart with changing it up. It's I don't know how many people know, but this is not the Woody and Buzz show anymore. Uh Jesse, Jesse the Cowgirl, she's taking over now. So, you giving toys the spotlight now, which is what I I think that's cool. And she I think she carries the movie well. I don't know. Did you like Jesse in this movie?

[00:09:28]>> Uh yes. I mean, Jesse's fine. She she did some questionable things. Uh which I was like, "You made this so much worse than it had to be."

[00:09:42]>> Yeah, she's a little aggressive.

[00:09:44]>> She she she she's aggressive. I mean, like right off with her and Lilyad, I was like, "That is not how you approach somebody and everything that's happened.

[00:09:53]This is kind of on you right now."

[00:09:56]>> Well, yeah. Well, you know what? I like Jesse cuz I understand her. And see, that's the thing. Listen, one of the things I was well just saying like I do like Jess like you asked if I like Jesse. Yes, I like Jesse. She make that clear, but it was just one of those things going like see you what you did there.

[00:10:13]>> Well, you know what? I get Jesse. I understand Jesse for one. I like Jesse in this because Jesse feels natural.

[00:10:19]Now, we always talking about she does feel natural. Yeah, we always talk about how they trying to make characters and and again, I'm not going to get any kind of diversity uh discussion argument here, anything like that. But everybody wants to talk about, oh, that character felt forced for you trying to make a statement with uh, you know, female empowerment and whatnot. That's not Jesse, man. Jesse's, you know, Jesse feels natural. There's no attempt to make any kind of strong female. Jesse is just who she is. We've known Jesse since Toy Story 2, so we we we know she's feisty.

[00:10:46]>> Yeah.

[00:10:46]>> Which is and and and I get it. Which is why I understand her bucking up to uh she was not out of character.

[00:10:52]>> No, when she bucked up to Lily, I I I got it and I understand why she did it because of what led up to it.

[00:11:00]>> Hi.

[00:11:01]>> Sorry. I didn't mean to scare you. Sleep mode. Was just going to hop on the charger. Battery could use a little refresh.

[00:11:07]>> I want to talk.

[00:11:07]>> Don't you walk away from me.

[00:11:12]>> That's already bad. That's a bad way to start this.

[00:11:14]>> Don't you turn your back on me.

[00:11:16]>> Device, please call me Lily. Now look here. I'm always listening.

[00:11:20]>> See? Now look here. Me and the toys have been working all summer trying to get me and the toys been working all summer trying to get Bonnie first dance. Honey, >> shut up.

[00:11:27]>> You ain't helping me.

[00:11:28]>> You know, I I listen. I like I like Jesse because and I and I understand Jesse's aggressiveness. First of all, I think it was cool to make her as aggressive as she is because >> I like when they make characters not so nice.

[00:11:42]>> Yeah. and and but she's already >> she, you know, I know we're talking about a kids movie, but she's seen some [ __ ] She's seen some [ __ ] and she's and she's full of anxiety, >> but the new person, you don't just go up to them and go like, "Look, [ __ ] I'm running things around here and this is how it's going to be." Cuz that other person, they going to snap back at you.

[00:12:01]Yeah.

[00:12:02]>> And she could have been like, "Hey, this is kind of what's been going on.

[00:12:05]>> We'd like to work with you."

[00:12:07]>> But >> but that's not her character. Yeah, like I said, we've always when she met Woody, she did the same thing to >> Woody. I'm I'm not faulting the movie for that. I'm just talking about Jess character. I was like, >> see, you you kind of made this worse than it had to be.

[00:12:21]>> But you know what I like about that? I like that because she's a strong personality, abrasive in a way, >> and she's doing it because I I I like that that that's that is for a reason.

[00:12:32]She is overconfident because she's insecure about She's insecure about first of all being a toy. Yeah. And everything toys have to go through and she's been through this before.

[00:12:43]>> So she has she's she's got some PTSD of all >> and so but she's also uh she's seen what's happening and this is probably the worst threat that they've had to their existence these these uh these machines or this tech. And so now she's she's in a position of a leader. She's trying to be overconfident for them.

[00:13:02]She's trying to She's trying to be that.

[00:13:03]She's trying to be confident for herself. And she doesn't want to show that she's scared. And I love that with this character because it it makes it harder to to watch when she has to deal with Bonnie, as we know, Bonnie, the the the little girl that took over the over the torch, Mandy. It makes me feel worse for her when she has to deal with that cuz she's scared about a lot of things.

[00:13:23]Yeah.

[00:13:23]>> And so when it man, it hits harder when she has to deal with Bonnie not wanting her anymore. when she's been trying to be so strong for everybody and trying to stand up to this new tech right here. I I I love that about her character.

[00:13:35]>> No, no, no. I I I like that, too. I like that she's trying to be so strong for the other toys and other toys are like, "Look, we we know how this goes." But for her, she's so traumatized what happened to her before. And her thing is like, "All right, I know I got a certain amount of years with Bonnie. I'm going to make the most of it." And then with Tech is like, "Yeah, you're not getting all those years. You got maybe three months."

[00:13:56]>> See, it that's why she mad. What the hell you say to me?

[00:13:58]>> I I know she's mad, but that ain't Lily Bank's fault. And and the the the thing to do, the mature thing to do, I know we're talking about toys.

[00:14:06]>> I know.

[00:14:07]>> Is is to, you know, the the self beneficial thing to do is to like, hey, let's come to an understanding. Let's work this out instead of just immediately jumping in Lily's face. Cuz what's Lily going to do going like you?

[00:14:18]>> Okay. You looking at what you would do.

[00:14:21]>> We are talking about we're talking about Jesse. BUT I'M NOT FAULTING THE MOVIE.

[00:14:24]>> I KNOW THAT. I'M just saying this is this is what I like about THIS CHARACTER AND THAT'S WHY that character is flawed.

[00:14:29]That character is not going to think logically. That character is is is a toy living in fear. It's a toy with it's a flawed character. I love that about that character right there.

[00:14:38]>> It's kind of weird how practical you are in your dissection of this movie where it's just like I don't even agree with this theme. Like you're all replaceable.

[00:14:45]The the lily pad itself is going to be replaced with an iPad in two years.

[00:14:49]>> That comes up later.

[00:14:50]>> Oh wow. Um, and you are straight up I like this movie because of her characterization. Like it's two completely different takes right off the bat.

[00:14:59]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I I know what the I mean, I'm not saying he's I can't blame for looking at it like, hey, if I was there, I would have squashed this [ __ ] right.

[00:15:08]>> What the hell is wrong with her? But I'm just kind of like, hey, I that's the way the the character's always been like that. She has more of a reason to be like that now. And it's it's a flaw character, but I understand why she's like that. And I think that's pretty deep for a toy movie, you know, a Toy Story movie.

[00:15:22]>> And it's also a thing where if Woody was there, he would have like he would have been a diplomat about the thing and got like, "All right, Jesse, calm down.

[00:15:29]Let's let's let's make this happen."

[00:15:31]But, you know, she's in charge now.

[00:15:32]>> Yeah.

[00:15:32]>> And Buzz is pussyhipped.

[00:15:37]>> Yeah. I, you know, like I said, man, I I I've been, you know, I This is the way these characters are written. They've always been this way to a certain extent. And the cool thing about it is that these characters are all they it's always been been about insecurity, you know, from the beginning. Woody's insecurity.

[00:15:53]Now it's time for Jesse's insecurity.

[00:15:56]And that's why she's like that.

[00:15:58]>> I love Bullseye.

[00:16:00]>> Well, Bullseye is, you know, no pun intended, ride or die.

[00:16:04]>> No, he is. He's a big He may He's a horse, but he's a big ass dog.

[00:16:07]>> Pixie is basically Bullseye.

[00:16:08]>> Big Pixie is my bullseye, man.

[00:16:12]Y'all know I love dogs. That ain't no horse. He's a dog, man. He even wags his tail when Jesse comes around. And I just love I love animal sidekicks like him.

[00:16:21]He's not too cute. He's just loyal. And I love the animation they did for him.

[00:16:25]And sometimes he's uh >> he's even like the reasonable one. Like Jesse, like Jesse did something that was kind of out of line and she looked at Bullseye. Bulls are like So yeah. Yeah, man. I I uh I think I also think the movie does a a good job at making tech seem very ominous. You know, it's uh there are uh you know, there there's so many scenes in here where it's kids in front of screens. Uh but you know, we know now that this technology is a problem. you know, these and and and there there is a problem with kids having too much screen time.

[00:17:06]>> And it it that those scenes where they look in front in in the houses through the windows and every kid is, you know, just kind of transfixed like a zombie in the glow of a screen. That was creepy, man.

[00:17:18]>> What makes it creepy is that it's not an exaggeration.

[00:17:21]>> No, no, it's not. No, that's what I'm saying. You know, it's staring to a device and we see this.

[00:17:26]>> I was I was working this review and I was at the airport getting ready to come here and it's not just kids. I looked I I I was writing a review and wrote this this note down and I looked up and everybody was was on the screen. I said, "Holy shit."

[00:17:37]>> Like this is this is dystopian right now. And I'm learning this from a Toy Story movie which I you know was way it was there way before that. Uh >> I do think everyone is the most antisocial at an airport though.

[00:17:49]>> Yeah. Well, if there's any place to do that, you're maybe I was the wrong not just casually walk up and start talking to strangers.

[00:17:55]>> Well, I do, but I've been to the [ __ ] I was.

[00:17:58]You ever notice them moving over [ __ ] They move before you even get there. Excuse me.

[00:18:04]>> A long flight today. Where you heading to?

[00:18:09]>> Uh, we were talking about Bonnie beforehand, man. And you know, I I think it's creepy and I think it's sad and I think that's the case with Bonnie. I think it's sad.

[00:18:19]And listen, I know you gonna I figured you gonna say this. You were either going to agree with me on this or you going to be like, "Nah, Bonnie. Bonnie Bonnie need our ass whooped or something. No, no, >> no, no, no, no. So, I I'm just going to tell you this. I was uh I was looking at Bonnie's story and I ain't going to lie.

[00:18:39]I I probably was a little insensitive cuz I was irritated with Bonnie cuz I was like, you know, why stop being weird. Stop all that damn crying. That's why you ain't got no friends.

[00:18:49]>> You know this. We We had a problem way before the screen. Yeah. You were weird with just the toys.

[00:18:53]>> Yeah. But, you know, because she's not making friends out there. That's the problem with her. And I was, you know, I was a little irritated with her at first, but then I was like, you know what? It's not her. Uh, I like the theme of of her, man. Um, it's all the other kids, the kids that are being made to be antisocial, you know, and you saw like in the in the trailer there. There's some there's a part they did her wrong, man. And so she goes to see all these she goes to uh to hang out with these kids for a a sleepover.

[00:19:26]And let me see here.

[00:19:28]>> Such a bad message for kids. Like you're ever ostracized. You're not the problem.

[00:19:33]Everyone else is they they they address that.

[00:19:38]>> Okay.

[00:19:38]>> Yeah.

[00:19:39]>> No, in this it's not I'm not putting it that way.

[00:19:42]>> Yeah. I was joking.

[00:19:43]>> No, I know. I know. I know. I know. I I I hear where you're coming from cuz I I did feel that also. Well, I look at these little girls and these little [ __ ] right here. They, you know, they it's it's a message about kids are being made to be antisocial, which makes them mean. It does. It makes them kind of cruel because it does desensitize, desensitize them in a way. Uh they're not creative. And also, it's like, you know, 8 years old is too old to be playing with toys now, which is what they say. Oh, you still play with toys?

[00:20:11]And they're like seven or eight years old. And it's like, really? And some kids really feel like that. And it made it made me it made me like Bonnie more because it made me feel for her, man. I felt bad for her because in the movie, you know, she's the symbol for childhood purity. You know, she's she's still a kid. She's still holding on to imagination. She still loves her toys, but she's conflicted between them and trying to make friends and the choice.

[00:20:35]And I felt bad for when she started crying later because she's it's upsetting her. She's like, "What do I do? Do I do I go out and make friends or do I be a kid? And if I'm a kid, I'm punished for it.

[00:20:45]>> You know, I I actually like Bonnie's story a lot. You know, like I said, she's the symbolism here for for for for childhood innocence and purity uh against everything that's happening.

[00:20:55]She's she's the one trying to hold on to it.

[00:20:57]>> Well, so Bonnie, I mean, the thing is about little girls is they have a tendency to be clickish. Yeah.

[00:21:04]especially if they've been hanging out and they already have a bunch of jokes between each other and they're all trying to be grown. Um, that happens even without technology, without iPads.

[00:21:14]Uh, but the thing the technology do is doing is that it's speeding up that process cuz like you said, they're usually a little bit older by the time they're doing that. Yeah.

[00:21:22]>> And Yeah. And Bonnie's been pure, but also Bonnie is just naturally very sensitive >> uh more so than other kids. Uh it is, you know, it it initially it is annoying like Bonnie stop being weird or stop stop crying so much >> or or at least talk to us about what's going on. Um but after a while, you know, just kind of relax and it's like, look, this is just what she's going through and it's it's it's tough, but she's not the only kid to ever be this way.

[00:21:51]>> Did you not like her then?

[00:21:52]>> No, I did.

[00:21:53]>> No, I No, I >> But but at at first I she was getting on my nerves.

[00:21:56]>> No, she was getting on my nerves, too.

[00:21:57]No, I was like, "Stop being weird. Yeah.

[00:22:01]Yeah. And like Yeah. You're never gonna make friends if you don't actually talk to people.

[00:22:05]>> Yeah. But I again I I like what they did with her character. I I really, you know, I mean, maybe it's realistic or not in some cases, but you know, like I said, she's a symbol here uh for childhood. With Lily, I'm I don't want to say too much cuz there's something that they did with her or it or whatever uh where I'm glad they didn't take her in that direction. She's kind of the new Buzz Lightyear.

[00:22:30]>> You know, when Buzz came in, he was the new high-tech toy.

[00:22:32]>> Yeah. Right. Right.

[00:22:33]>> Woody was the one that was outdated. Now >> Lily is the new Buzz Lightyear.

[00:22:38]>> And you know, she's making everybody look obsolete, especially Jesse right here.

[00:22:43]>> Uh, I like that they didn't take her in a certain direction as I just said, but also, man, I don't know if you felt this. I might be looking too deep into it, but I also thought like one of the reasons why they didn't go that far with it is because Disney's kind of being very care careful not to be critical of kids not being on pads.

[00:23:01]>> Of course, >> because I wish I could tell you what they could have done to take it all the way, but Disney's like, "Well, we get Look, we got apps to sell, too, you know."

[00:23:09]>> Well, also, okay, with with something like a device like this, you don't want to make it too powerful.

[00:23:16]Yeah, >> because because then you gonna scare a lot of people.

[00:23:19]>> Well, yeah. Everybody's hackles are already up about AI >> and even though this is low tech for AI, having it be able to do too much is enough to have people going, "See, nah, none of this."

[00:23:32]>> Yeah. But but also with Lily, there's a certain inevitability of her existence, you know, like even Marco's bringing up that like, you know, she's gonna get replaced at some point. Yeah. Because you know, you know, Lily is low tech to what we have now.

[00:23:49]>> Yeah, that's true. I think she's low tech, too. Is she Is she low tech because she's for a kid?

[00:23:53]>> Yeah. Okay.

[00:23:54]>> Yes.

[00:23:56]An actual Leapad or whatever it is. Cuz there's a frog based.

[00:23:59]>> Yeah. Leap Leaprog Leaprog. They don't have many much RPM or RAM. They can't do a lot of programs either.

[00:24:07]>> Yeah. Um, so yeah, they they you know, they they limit, you know, um, Lily Pad's menace, but but also it, you know, it's it's it's refreshing that she's not too evil, >> too powerful.

[00:24:22]>> Yeah, that's there's a way that they could have pushed this and I'm glad that they didn't, but it also is just Disney saying, "Hey, look, yeah, we don't want kids to be on screens for a long time, but we want them to be on screens for our things, you know."

[00:24:34]>> Yeah. Well, plus whether we want or not, they they going to get on screens.

[00:24:38]>> Yeah.

[00:24:39]>> Screens screens are going to happen.

[00:24:41]They they they also stopped short of saying like, "Look, this is coming whether you like it or not."

[00:24:45]>> Oh, no. Disney has Disney has uh uh a lot of apps directed towards foury olds >> and 5y olds and they getting them on there early. So, they're like, you know, look, we ain't going to tell them not to do it.

[00:24:57]>> Yeah. Not going to shoot ourselves.

[00:24:59]>> Yeah. Exactly.

[00:24:59]>> I mean, you can play with toys, too, but as long as you play these apps.

[00:25:02]>> So, I just I just thought that was funny. I was like, you know, I'm glad you did it or didn't do a certain thing, but I don't think it was done for the right thing, you know, but it was good for the movie.

[00:25:12]>> Well, yeah. I I think it was better for the movie.

[00:25:14]>> Yeah. Overall, yeah, >> it sounds like in general they they took a more nuanced take. Kind of reminds me of Inside Out, too, where there's not an overall villain. So, there's a nuance take to >> kind of Yeah, you're kind of right about that.

[00:25:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. No, you Yeah, you are. Uh there's other smart toy characters and this is what I was talking about where I think there's too many. I So they introduced the the other gang of leftover smart toys and I just didn't feel the connection with them like I did with other toys. Not at all.

[00:25:44]>> I mean in the early toy stories even like some of the smaller side characters. I mean think about even up to till to four like Duke Kaboom and all that. Right. Right. Right.

[00:25:51]>> Are are the dummies uh the metrilquous dummies uh in the antique store.

[00:25:55]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All those toys in the antique store. They always felt a presence with them and especially Duke Kaboom, he was like a standout, you know, new character. Yeah. And even uh Forky, >> you know, Forky was a big deal. Yeah.

[00:26:08]>> We're like, man, we getting replaced by just a fork with some pipe. Yeah. But he had so much personality. You're like, man, I know he's a threat, but I I I I like that guy. Um Yeah. And but all these new characters, these these these new uh tech toys and even the the army of Buzz Lightyear, I was like, "Yeah, I'm just not >> I I'm I'm there with you on that, man."

[00:26:30]>> Like the whole Buzz all those Buzz Lightyear when it was all said and done, I was like, "We didn't need any of this." That that that that added up to nothing. No, I agree with you. And it took it took away from the the story we were following to follow these guys. And then at the end, I was like, "So what even was that?"

[00:26:46]>> I agree with you to a certain extent.

[00:26:48]And maybe maybe we are fully in agreement with that, but I am with you on that. But man, these these new tech toys that come up are the new the new smart toys, they just they're just not I don't I didn't find myself uh emotionally attached to them or connecting with them at all. And I think that that's because uh again, there's just too many characters going on in here and they're the now we finally have the casualty of having a crowded movie.

[00:27:13]It's it's it's that that fifth movie syndrome thing that we've seen in Fast and Furious and the Jurassic Worlds where you got you got too many goddamn characters.

[00:27:20]>> Look, man, we've been collecting.

[00:27:21]>> Yeah, we've been collecting.

[00:27:22]>> We we made a big ass boulder snowball of characters now and now we are seeing the c at least for myself. Some other people might like them, but we're seeing the casualty of characters that just aren't having enough time are given enough story for to to to connect with people like myself. And you know, are they amusing? Kind of. I don't know. They got one toy that's just there to make [ __ ] jokes. Yeah. Yeah. I was just really disappointed with that.

[00:27:44]>> Yeah. And I'm not even offended. I'm not saying it's childish.

[00:27:46]>> I wasn't offended, but but it's like, all right, he's a toy for potty training and Yeah. Okay. Of course, he's going to be a couple of [ __ ] jokes.

[00:27:52]>> That was that was Girtz's favorite part.

[00:27:54]>> Was it?

[00:27:55]>> He he he weighed way more than I thought was necessary.

[00:27:59]>> Yeah. I didn't mind him. He didn't bother me, but I'm just kind of like, you know what? I can take you. I'll leave you.

[00:28:04]>> Oh, she got bangs at you.

[00:28:06]>> Wait a minute. Where is that?

[00:28:07]>> That's Disneyland.

[00:28:08]>> Come here. That's me in a pocket.

[00:28:10]>> Flush. You both went there. It's not terrible, but it's just like, all right, you know, do am I going to remember these characters that much? Not really.

[00:28:17]You know, they're not they didn't leave a a huge impression. I tell you who I did like. I like uh I like the character of Bla1. Uh that's the it's a little girl that somehow the toys end up you if you see the movie through through a bunch of misadventures, uh Jesse and and and Bullseye end up at this girl's house. And she's she's pretty likable, man. Especially when you have a bunch of kids in the movie that are just clocked out uh you know in the front of screen.

[00:28:43]She's a character that's full of life kind of like Andy was and again and then not not making a big statement with her.

[00:28:48]She's just I thought she was just a cool character.

[00:28:49]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She she's Bonnie if she wasn't >> crying all THE TIME. YEAH. WEIRD.

[00:28:55]>> That's all damn crying.

[00:28:56]>> I wanted to ask they ever get rid of some of the the toys in big ways. I mean I know like the Barbies left in the last movie and stuff but like some of the voice actors have legitimately passed away from one.

[00:29:06]>> Yeah. they've replaced him like uh Mr. Potato Head.

[00:29:09]>> I think there's uh some good going back to what you're saying. I think some good story ideas here, man. You know, cuz listen, all the this is all the same formula, you know. I mean, it's amazing that they're able to pull this off. Uh something is introduced, the toys have to work together to make sure that the, you know, kids don't forget them, you know, and the joy of playing with them.

[00:29:30]That's in every movie now.

[00:29:31]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, so but part of that formula is also uh at some point, you know, uh the the the toys are going to get neglected >> and that's where the emotion kicks in for me every time because every time I think these movies might not reach the point of oh well, you know, they never going to hit that high that these other toy story movies do. And then damn it, they those toys get neglected. They get those big sad eyes. they start playing that random mute Randy Newman music >> and and it and it always hits me. So, one of the things that I think that that this is that still works here is there's still a lot of heart and still a lot of emotion, especially with when the toys are feeling like they're at their lowest. That that always gets me, man.

[00:30:13]And I think it's it's the same thing here. The the the the things that don't work are some things that are really good ideas, but the writing isn't as tight.

[00:30:22]>> Yeah. I I felt like overall the writing isn't as tight because in all the other movies I always got big laughs out of them. Sometimes a lot of them and I didn't get any big laughs this time. I got chuckles and things that were humorous but I didn't get any big laughs. Um yeah, and the emotion wise I didn't I didn't I didn't feel that as much you know when it got to that it felt like okay well this is the thing these movies have done and before in really four times it was magical and it was like oh wow you caught me and this time it was more like yeah see that coming. I was also kind of put off by in writing wise uh the relationship with Buzz and Woody, how Buzz was so aggressive with Woody. And I get that he had anxiety, but he was like really laser focused on being in competition with Woody and it was like this is weird because it was fine at first in the first movie, but they've worked that [ __ ] out. So, I don't understand why this is happening now.

[00:31:19]>> Cuz people like to see them go at it.

[00:31:21]>> Yeah. Yeah. But it was it was like they just they just wanted them to have that relationship even though it didn't even make sense.

[00:31:27]>> One of the great things about Toy Story and about all of them is that a joke is usually worked into the bigger story.

[00:31:34]>> It's not just the throwaway punch line all the time. I mean some characters will say something, but if there's a, you know, if there's some joke that they really stop the movie for, then it's going to have some some some uh impact on the story itself. It's going to be worked into the story.

[00:31:46]>> And that's not always the case with this. Mhm.

[00:31:48]>> Uh Woody, as I said, is more of a supporting character. So, his jokes about getting old, when I saw that in the trailer, I thought that that was going to be, you know, I thought it was going to be more to it. Like, he's got that ball spot. He He's even got a little belly. He got a little he got he got a little uh um little beer gut going on, little punch going on.

[00:32:07]>> But it's nothing more than a quick joke.

[00:32:10]>> And and and you know, it's still good to see him. I mean, it's still good to see.

[00:32:14]It was great to see him and uh uh Buzz get back together, but after that's done, they don't mention anything about him being old anymore. Maybe just a little more couple more digs at him, but but it was like, okay, this old joke is is old now.

[00:32:29]>> It's good to be back.

[00:32:32]>> She really let things go, >> you know. AND I I LAUGHED at that, but that's all it is. It's like and yeah, I think in a in a better written Toy Story movie, and I'm not saying that they do a terrible job here, but in a better written Toy Story movie, that would have played into a bigger part of the story.

[00:32:48]I think Yeah, >> I feel like, you know, it's again, probably cuz they have so much stuff going on.

[00:32:52]>> Yeah, >> we don't have time to like put that in.

[00:32:54]I think all right, you know, say I would have say that for a movie where we really could have made that uh bigger story >> prior to the theme. Yeah.

[00:33:03]And I agree with you on on them buzz light years.

[00:33:08]>> They got an army of buzzes in here. And and at first at first it's kind of at first it's kind of cool. You know, it's like uh it it reminded me of that movie Small Soldiers. Yes. In a way, it's the look the the intro for it is cool. A bunch of Buzz Lightyears that crashed onto a beachfront. a cargo ship crash and they all decide to become a collective army. Uh, that was actually pretty funny at first and then there's some things that happen later on in the movie where I thought, "Okay, that's that's funny, too. That's cute. Can't wait to see where this goes." And man, the whole thing it's not a great payoff if you ask me.

[00:33:46]>> The whole thing was just >> it was just one long setup for like a convenient >> save or something at the get this movie wrapped up at the end. You know what I mean?

[00:33:56]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I I was just like, we we this time we spent with these guys could have been spent really digging into Bonnie and what's going on with her?

[00:34:06]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:34:08]>> Isn't that the second time they've done a Buzz Army?

[00:34:10]>> A Buzz Army?

[00:34:12]>> Like Like didn't one of the other movies have like Like I said, I vaguely remember it. They go >> They're in a toy store and there's a bunch of them.

[00:34:19]>> Yeah, there is there is a there is sort of a payoff for them and and I did like it. Uh I just think that as much we spent a lot of time with them.

[00:34:29]>> Yeah.

[00:34:29]>> In the middle of the movie.

[00:34:30]>> Yeah. Because they kept cutting back to them like, "Oh [ __ ] what's this building?" And then in the end like >> Yeah. And so, you know, I thought I don't I don't think it had a big I think had like a a good punch for what they were >> for the setup that they had for it. I thought eventually what we saw in the end it was cute, but then again, nothing that we had to do a long setup for.

[00:34:49]>> But uh I I think they could have played a more clever part in the story. But uh yeah, you know, I don't know, man. Uh I I think uh watching this man I I like this the least of all the movies. This is the first time that this is starting to feel crowded and it's taken away from the story and it's also starting to feel a little repetitive. Not a huge complaint for me though. It's it's it's still a quality film even though it's a lot going on in there. Everyone, you know, everyone gets their moment.

[00:35:21]Everyone everyone uh has a you know whe whether it's a small joke or whether it's a you know a big part of the story everybody gets a chance to add something to the film. I wish there were times people could add it more to the story but you know it it in the end it kind of keeps it kind of keeps what's really important for me and that it's still at at the heart of it. It's got a lot of emotion.

[00:35:44]I still felt something while watching this. They've done it over and over again. these damn toys. Every time they throw these toys to the side, I still I still cry, man. I I still feel bad. I still That [ __ ] still works on me. I don't like it.

[00:35:57]>> It's still real to me.

[00:35:59]>> It's still real to me. I don't like being manipulated like that, but damn it, it's still It still works on me.

[00:36:05]Damn it. So, yeah. I I It's a It would probably be a high a high matinea. And this is the first time that I've given a Toy Story anything but like a full price or low full price. I even think I gave a Did I get a last movie matinea? Not sure. Somebody be able to tell me. I don't know.

[00:36:19]>> I don't know. I I thought the last movie was a full price. I mean, it might have been the lesser of the, you know, of the four, but only slightly.

[00:36:27]>> Yeah.

[00:36:27]>> You know, it was just doing something different and introduced some some memorable new characters. Uh, >> by the way, I don't know if people are saying getting mad at anything because they think I'm giving this a bad rating.

[00:36:36]I'm not. I I think a high mine is still is still good. I mean, this is fifth one.

[00:36:41]>> Yeah.

[00:36:41]>> You know, I mean, if you can carry it on that far and still be a quality film, you're doing well.

[00:36:45]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, if if if this movie is your first Toy Story movie, it's good. I just don't think it's Toy Story good. And it very much what you said. I didn't think about it, but it felt like an episode rather than an actual, you know, >> like an episode of a good series or something.

[00:37:02]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um Yeah.

[00:37:04]Just so much of it, it just it didn't it didn't reach those those those high points for me and and there were things so many things where I would take out and normally with the other movies, I was laughing or enjoying myself so much I didn't even think about that. So, it's a matinea for me, but it's it's a low matinea. I do think it's I still think it's uh it's it's still a good run. I still uh find myself maybe I'm not as attached to a lot of characters in here as I was before, but the ones I am attached to like Bonnie, Jesse, I still love seeing, you know, I get emotional when I see the toys get back together.

[00:37:35]When I saw you, you know, when I saw uh Buzz and Woody meet each other again, I thought, you know what, that feels good, man. If like I said, you know, this is like hanging out with old friends. And when I see, you know, a moment like this where, you know, they see each other for the first time and they give each other a hug and everything, I'm like, "Yeah, you know what, man? That that those are the moments I live for for these Toy Story movies. They still got it when it comes to that." And I I and I and I, like I said, there's a comfort in coming in and being like, I don't need any setup for for Buzz and Woody. I don't need to have anything, you know, I don't need to come in and have any explanations. I just get to fall right back in there with these two. That's I like if you look closely you can see me coming up behind them right there. Yeah, guys. But get off, right? Friends forever, right? You know, I still, you know, from for for moments like this where I can just come in and settle down from where I settle in from where I last left these characters. I like that. Um Yeah. You know, and it was bound to happen that something was going to dip in quality.

[00:38:34]>> Yeah.

[00:38:36]>> We >> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:38:37]>> We on the fifth one, man.

[00:38:38]>> You can roll the dice only so many times.

[00:38:41]I MEAN, at least it didn't suck.

[00:38:43]>> No, fifth movie totally could have.

[00:38:46]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, overall mata from both of us, I mean, you can split ears. Low man, high man, whatever.

[00:38:51]But, I mean, nobody's saying it's terrible. No.

[00:38:53]>> No, not at all. Not at all. You know, so >> it's fine.

[00:38:56]>> Chad is saying he gave the last one a better than sex.

[00:38:59]>> Yeah. So, there you go. So, this Yeah, I knew you like that last one.

[00:39:01]>> No, I actually like that last one a lot, man. I know some people are down on that one, but man, I love the way that last movie ended.

[00:39:08]>> I did, too. It was It was It was different. It It didn't stick to formula. And matter of fact, I was hoping with this one we would be more following Woody out there in the wasteland doing his thing.

[00:39:19]>> Man, I hope they do that in Toy Toy Story 6.

[00:39:22]>> Yeah. Or just not make a Toy Story 6.

[00:39:25]>> That ain't happening.

[00:39:27]>> I know. I know. I know.

[00:39:29]>> WOODY WILL BE back with the revolution.