Cobweb of Secrets for Casey Anthony | Introduction

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[00:00:00]The same exact thing is happening, they're still protecting the perpetrator. That's exactly what the the cops did in my case. That's the same thing that the prosecutors did in my case. That's the same thing that the judge did in my case. They refused to listen to any of the testimony, even though it actually went to the truth of the matter and it went to the truth of what we were actually there for. They were never actually focused on what happened to Caylee. They were never worried about that at all. They looked at me, they targeted me, sure my my actions and my behavior were abnormal, but when you look at what happens when someone is a victim of early childhood abuse. It was It was when I was 8 years old that this started. It's not like I was 16 or 17, almost an adult. There were things that still happened into adulthood, sure, but I was a child. I was still a single-digit child being abused by my own father.

[00:01:00]>> [music] >> Some of you may remember the post I made last year in the Eyes Wide Open group about Casey Anthony.

[00:01:19]To that point, I had believed what we were all led to believe by the media regarding her case and trial.

[00:01:25]That is until I found out that she'd made claims relating to both her father and brother that would have given us the bigger picture of what had actually happened to this defenseless, innocent child, her daughter, Caylee Anthony.

[00:01:37]There aren't enough words to describe the kind of pain a case like this causes me.

[00:01:41]The depth of anguish I feel personally for this type of loss.

[00:01:45]As I started digging deeper into the full interviews, the trial, the aspects of the case that couldn't be sensationalized enough to suit the narrative, therefore did not hit the major news cycles, a brand new story was revealing itself that seemed all too familiar for what we cover here most often.

[00:02:01]At the time, I was elbows deep into the JonBenét research, [music] and I couldn't ignore the similarities for the life of me.

[00:02:07]I then watched the three-part series released by Peacock called Casey Anthony: Where the Truth Lies, which I highly recommend, by the way. Very well done.

[00:02:16]But after watching and reading all of this related content non-stop for 2 days straight, I had an entirely different view and perspective.

[00:02:24]This is when I decided to take a chance and reach out to Casey directly. I honestly never expected to get a response.

[00:02:30]Sure enough, she did reply, to my surprise.

[00:02:33]We began talking about certain aspects of the case that I found most compelling. They supported the claims of harms and trespasses that she'd made.

[00:02:40]>> [music] >> This is bizarre.

[00:02:42]This is the life of Casey Anthony.

[00:02:46]When we review her behavior before, during, and after the trial, she was absolutely showing signs and symptoms of being somewhere on the dissociative spectrum. Lately, jurors can't be too sure which Casey is going to show up.

[00:02:59]Yesterday, [music] laughter. On Friday, tears and glares from a seemingly angry Casey during her brother's testimony on Thursday. Shortly after, a sick Casey had to be escorted out of the courtroom, and the judge extended a break to allow Casey to compose herself. In person, jurors have seen Casey's look evolve from conservative frilly shirts and sweaters to much more casual V-neck tops and jeans. While there's an enormous amount of evidence for the 12 jurors to process, they're also trying to process this. Just what to make of the 25-year-old accused of killing her daughter? There was one particular segment from the docu-series that further confirmed this for me, where she's talking about having these lock boxes in her brain, which is the common denominator for many who have endured complex childhood trauma, having some kind of filing system, implicating the compartmentalization and partitioning of certain layers of memory.

[00:03:52]Mental construct that they can visualize that separates them from their mind.

[00:03:56]As if being its own data center.

[00:03:58]Sometimes, there's more than one entity bopping around up there helping maintain those files and to keep some inaccessible to the host or other entities within the system.

[00:04:08]This system is a built-in feature meant to preserve and protect the vessel from the kinds of emotional violence that create lifelong wide-open gaping wounds inside. It's a scarification, if you will, of the mental wounds.

[00:04:22]As this case was being investigated, this all came to light.

[00:04:27]Everyone was aware that they hid this beautiful child like a flower in the attic.

[00:04:34]They They treated this pregnancy as if it never happened.

[00:04:39]Lee got to a little suspicious.

[00:04:42]And you'll hear evidence that [music] Casey has a brother.

[00:04:46]And he, too, wanted to follow in his father's footsteps.

[00:04:51]And on certain occasions, when he was a teenager, he attempted to also touch his sister.

[00:04:56]Although it didn't go as far.

[00:05:01]It got so bad that the FBI did a paternity test to see if he was Caylee's father.

[00:05:09]And when he was confronted with this information, he didn't deny it.

[00:05:15]He said, "We'll talk about it when the time is right."

[00:05:20]Well, the time is now.

[00:05:22]The time is now to try and save his sister's life, but yet these secrets, these family secrets still remain locked.

[00:05:32]You're going to hear all kinds of bizarre family behavior that just doesn't make sense.

[00:05:40]How parents should stand by their child, but instead are throwing them throwing them under the bus.

[00:05:48]Making bizarre statements and accusations.

[00:05:53]And that's what this case is going to be about.

[00:05:56]You're going to hear all kinds of interesting behavior from all parties, not just Casey.

[00:06:05]And once you see some of this behavior, you'll realize that the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree.

[00:06:12]We are what we are because of who brought us into this world and how we were raised.

[00:06:18]Casey was raised to lie.

[00:06:22]This child would at 8 years old learn to lie immediately.

[00:06:28]She could be 13 years old, have her father's in her mouth, and then go to school and play with the other kids as if nothing ever happened.

[00:06:38]Nothing's wrong.

[00:06:42]That will help you understand why no one knew that her child was dead.

[00:06:51]If you're not familiar with this case, on July 15th, 2008, Caylee was reported missing by Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother.

[00:07:00]And what ensued was a mystery that both shocked and gripped the nation.

[00:07:04]The first reports by the family suggested that they hadn't seen their granddaughter in weeks and were concerned about her whereabouts and safety. But Casey had given them various accounts of who was looking after her when her parents had inquired and that she eventually admitted that she hadn't seen her for weeks, either.

[00:07:19]Suggesting that Caylee had been kidnapped by a nanny on June 9th.

[00:07:24]June 16th, 2008, it is the last day that little 2-year-old Caylee Anthony is seen alive. 1 month later, July 15th, her grandmother, Cindy Anthony, is frantic because she hasn't seen Caylee. She calls 911 to report her missing. I found out my granddaughter has been missing and she has been missing for a month.

[00:07:43]Her Her mother finally admitted that she's been missing. You're talking about a 3-year-old little girl. I need to find her. Casey Anthony says a babysitter kidnapped her daughter. October 15th, Casey is officially charged with Caylee's death, even though the little girl is still missing. Then, on December 11th, a break in the case. Caylee's remains are found in a garbage bag dumped in a wooded area near the Anthony home. 8 days later, Caylee's death is ruled a homicide. Bottom line is, folks, no child should have to go through this.

[00:08:17]Casey remains in jail and continues to deny any involvement in her daughter's death. In April of 2009, prosecutors announce they will seek the death penalty against her.

[00:08:28]The year is filled with status hearings, legal maneuvers, and attorneys fighting to keep evidence in or out of the trial.

[00:08:35]In March of 2010, her trial date is set for May 9th, 2011.

[00:08:41]The trial will be held in Orlando, but what has yet to be determined is who will be the 12 jurors to decide Casey Anthony's fate.

[00:08:50]After investigators reviewed Casey's social media and behavior during the time that Caylee was alleged to have been missing, it struck everyone as quite odd.

[00:08:58]Not the actions of someone who believed their child to be missing, but more so like a normal, carefree 22-year-old.

[00:09:05]In October of 2008, Casey was arrested and charged with murder in the first degree, of which she pled not guilty.

[00:09:12]The suggestive motive being that she didn't like being a mother and had done something to Caylee so that she could go out and party.

[00:09:19]This, of course, was contrary to what many of those close to her recalled, saying that she had loved her daughter deeply and could have made better choices as this all had unfolded. She would have never brought harm to her child or knowingly allowed any harm.

[00:09:34]Casey was a good mom. She took care of that child.

[00:09:38]She loved that baby.

[00:09:41]She was always focused on [music] Caylee. You know, she was a part of her.

[00:09:46]She was everywhere that she was.

[00:09:50]It's very clear when I talked to the policemen, they all very readily tell me that the motive here is somebody who wanted to go out dancing and was ready to kill her child.

[00:10:04]No way.

[00:10:05]No way, shape, form. I don't believe that for a second.

[00:10:12]I understand how they will say that. I get it.

[00:10:15]That's not the Casey that I knew.

[00:10:17]No way.

[00:10:18]She didn't kill her child. Like >> [laughter] >> All the pictures that circulated on the news, on social media, there's a matter of, I would say, maybe half a dozen pictures that are from half a dozen different nights over the span of a 3-year time period.

[00:10:39]There's a picture of her with her head in the toilet. It was her 21st birthday.

[00:10:43]Like, come on. Like, it was her 21st birthday.

[00:10:47]The media made it like all she wanted to do was to kill her kid and go out and party.

[00:10:52]It's not the Casey that I knew. She wasn't ever like the life of the party.

[00:10:59]She didn't go out with us all that often.

[00:11:02]She was your typical mom. I mean, she loved that child.

[00:11:08]The entire situation seemed to make no sense whatsoever. But ultimately, the defense had stated that Caylee had accidentally drowned in the family's pool and that her father, George Anthony, had disposed of her.

[00:11:20]Casey was found not guilty of any crimes against Caylee, but received four misdemeanor counts of providing false information to law enforcement.

[00:11:29]You were young. You were basically a kid, too. Like, when you think about it for the age you were >> 22. Like, you were still a kid, too.

[00:11:36]And you were a victim of almost the same kind of situation that some of these like the way that they worked against you, I feel is similar to how some of these uh young girls and now women may be speaking on it, but at the time young girls were um discredited and not believed when they would try to go get help about it or how they would be treated in in the overall how they were treated in the media over the years of some of these victims that have just been trying to talk about their experiences.

[00:12:00]The same exact thing is happening.

[00:12:02]They're still protecting the perpetrator. That's exactly what the the cops did in my case. That's the same thing that the prosecutors did in my case. That's the same thing that the judge did in my case. They refused to listen to any of the testimony even though it actually went to the truth of the matter. It went to the truth of what we were actually there for. They were never actually focused on what happened to Kaylie. They were never worried about that at all. They looked at me. They targeted me. Sure, my my actions and my behavior were abnormal, but when you look at what happens when someone is a victim of early childhood [music] abuse.

[00:12:37]It was It was when I was 8 years old this started. It's not like I was 16 or 17 almost an adult. There were things that still happened into adulthood, sure, but I was a child. I was still a single-digit [music] child being abused by my own father.

[00:12:55]So, when that happens, of course the behavior is going to be a a little askew. Of course, it is. How are you going to grow up in a normal environment? And that also was Those are some of my first memories. Those are some of the main things that I remember.

[00:13:09]I Some of my first memories and I've been writing about this in the book is my brother having night terrors.

[00:13:16]That's not a normal thing to remember at 4 or 5 years old. And then just a few years later, I'm dealing with some of my own stuff. Yeah. Growing up as a kid not being afraid of the dark, but being afraid of what happens at night Yeah.

[00:13:29]the dark.

[00:13:30]>> Yeah.

[00:13:31]is a really really [ __ ] up statement. But, it's also very, very true. And it wasn't until I spoke about this, when I decided that it was time for me to speak about this on my own during the docuseries.

[00:13:46]And it gave a voice to this. And people actually were able to hear it. And like you would said, you were unaware of this. Well, again, this was relevant to the subject matter because that's very likely how died because she was being abused. Yeah. Yeah. That is very likely how it happened.

[00:14:02]And yet, that was never a conversation that anyone was willing to entertain because they had all of this concocted evidence of which was all debunked and all proven to not be true. Yep.

[00:14:14]But, there was one narrative and to this day there's still one narrative that the national media, even the international media has gone with both before and even after the doc. And spite of the fact that you had a team of people, whether you want to call them investigative reporters, investigative journalists, or just investigators, researchers, who went in and independently pulled all this information, did what you do. They didn't rely on my word. Most of the time they were coming to me and and telling me about stuff and I'm going, "What is that that you're even talking about?"

[00:14:43]They were the ones that put all this together. I didn't. Yep. This was them.

[00:14:47]I participated as much as I need to in the same way I'm sitting here talking to you.

[00:14:52]That's what I did with them. I had no say or control over anything. And when I was sitting across from Alex Dean, and that was a whole situation. We'll have to go over what what it was like sitting, you know, on on set talking about this stuff. But, I'm literally sitting there death by a thousand cuts having to go into all of this.

[00:15:09]With a camera pointed at my face, looking at the reflection of another human being who's sitting there crying across from me.

[00:15:15]With a group of people that are there watching this.

[00:15:18]And they're emotional because they understand the conviction behind those words.

[00:15:23]Some of them also being victims and survivors themselves, they understand it it hits a different register for people.

[00:15:29]When you hear someone and you see someone and you wonder why people are so mad and they're so upset.

[00:15:36]Because there's no protection for any of us. There's no way to prevent this from happening.

[00:15:41]Which okay, sure because bad things are going to happen.

[00:15:45]But what is so [ __ ] up is that there is there is no rectifying this after it does happen.

[00:15:52]Because most of the perpetrators are never charged. Most of the perpetrators [ __ ] get away with it again and again.

[00:15:59]And then they get to play the victim at the end of the day.

[00:16:02]And the actual victims, the actual survivors of this, those of us that survived, truly survived.

[00:16:09]As you look at what happened to Virginia Giuffre.

[00:16:12]She didn't make it.

[00:16:15]Casey and I have been speaking for just over a year.

[00:16:18]There was more than enough evidence to suggest that there was something very dark happening in that home.

[00:16:23]Even if you don't want to believe anything Casey has said.

[00:16:26]We've reached the depth of conversation that you just can't have with someone who's not a trauma kid.

[00:16:31]She's also brutally honest in her opinions and views. And I do believe she's speaking nothing but the truth now.

[00:16:37]After many years of internal work and therapy, as a stark contrast from how she was raised, she was conditioned to tell lies and conceal secrets.

[00:16:46]To protect her abuser and the image of the family unit, which we now know is all too common in a narcissistic cult family system.

[00:16:53]And that great darkness can live behind doors where happy little wreaths are hung.

[00:16:58]There were certain things I'd noticed watching some of his depositions and stuff and just because obviously I did my homework before I even reached out to you cuz it was like I don't really know how I feel about this right now, but this is a whole new layer now that I'm aware of the information of what she had tried to talk about that it seemed like nobody had any interest to even investigate. Um I started digging into it and stuff, right? So, but it's all there and the mannerisms and him getting upset on it's like he's almost I can see where you're saying that and then how that played out within those depositions and things and like how he was almost like he was getting upset and inconvenienced for being questioned about it, but if you were a former law enforcement, this is due process and you should know that you you need to be eliminated as a suspect or whether he was even a fully a suspect. You were you were under a line of questioning because you should want to know what actually happened to You should know want to know what happened. Everybody should want to know what happened and and want the justice for it, right? Cuz if it wasn't you and it wasn't you and it wasn't you, who the [ __ ] Right? So, I'm sorry. I'm getting heated now, too, cuz like No, but this all stood out to me, too, right? Isn't that a normal reaction when you look at it without a bias? When you look at it from an outside perspective? Yeah. You should be mad. You should be upset. Because I can look at it objectively. I mean, [ __ ] this was almost 18 years ago that this started. Yeah.

[00:18:15]So, I'm 40 years old now. A lot of things have changed. I was 25 after I was acquitted. So, a lot transpired in 3 years. A lot more has transpired in the last almost 15. [music] And and understandably so.

[00:18:31]But when you look at the way that all of this was framed out, take for example, which I don't know if this is in Cheney Mason's book, too, or if it's only in Jose Baez's book, but they both at varying times talked about when they sat in the same room as my father before it became public about the conversations that I had during those evaluations. Mhm. And where I was talking about having been raped and molested.

[00:19:02]He's in Cheney Mason's office and he's in there with Jose and Cheney and they're telling him what was said.

[00:19:08]They're trying to bring him and my mother in out of courtesy. And I You can't see the air quotes, but I'm going to say that there were air quotes out of courtesy. So, they wanted to see what both of them were willing to say or going to say, right? We're talking this was during trial times. So, this was back 2011.

[00:19:27]That's how long ago this happened. Yeah.

[00:19:29]Yeah.

[00:19:30]And [music] they tell my mother she gets upset, but she doesn't deny it.

[00:19:37]And then they bring in my father.

[00:19:40]And he's staring at them, and he doesn't get mad. He doesn't flip a chair. He doesn't jump across the table, which would be a normal response if you have two grown men telling you that you're being accused of having raped and molested your child, your daughter.

[00:19:54]>> You think so, yeah. Most people would react in a way that would be adverse, right? Right. No. He puts his hands on both of his thighs, looks out the window, and I know Cheney has said this and again, I'm pretty sure Jose said the same thing. It was at least a 30-count or 40-count before he finally utters his next words and says, "What else did she say?"

[00:20:22]Like, [ __ ] Oh my god.

[00:20:24]Again, verify it. That's an admission of guilt. That's an admission of guilt. I'm sorry.

[00:20:30]>> in both It's either in both or it's only in one of them, and I don't remember. I have to >> Yeah.

[00:20:35]I believe you. I honestly like cuz from the some of the things he was saying to that really just irked me, that didn't feel right. And like during the funeral, during the funeral service at most especially talking about missing the sweet smell of sweat from my child.

[00:20:54]>> god, yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:56]That's what I'll say. That That's what That That first of all, that's my child.

[00:21:01]Um moms usually say that when we talk about how stinky our baby sweets are cuz all babies have stinky feet it's like a right of passage.

[00:21:10]How would he know what my child smelled like after after she woke up or when she was asleep?

[00:21:16]>> or just the way he said it was very like that stood out to me to be like a damning moment.

[00:21:22]>> for everyone that's here today to pay tribute to a beautiful little girl who not only meant the world to me but meant the world to my family and so many of you that never got a chance to actually hug her, smell her hair, smell the sweet sweat when she came in from outside.

[00:21:46]To hear her call me Jojo.

[00:21:49]Sure I was grandpa, but I was Jojo to her.

[00:21:53]Some days when I wouldn't maybe just pay attention to her for just a second, she would get right in my face and Jojo.

[00:22:01]Grandpa, grandpa Jojo, George.

[00:22:04]She knew me.

[00:22:06]She knew how to push me to smile at her and hug her.

[00:22:11]I miss that.

[00:22:13]Kiss on the cheek, that special hug that I tell everyone it's so great to get a hug from someone, but to get a hug from a small child, that gives me energy like you couldn't imagine.

[00:22:28]Like every ounce of shred of my body red alert.

[00:22:33]Remember that was at the beginning. Yep, so that was in 20 that was in Well, I was going to say in in 2019 I was going to mistake it was in 2009. Yeah.

[00:22:44]Like the signs were already there. Like that's what that's what hurt my heart about it the most is like looking back the signs were there and then she's saying it and she's [ __ ] ooh and then obviously the signs was the outcome of trauma and how you described it in the documentary too like that hit me hit home for me too of how the compartmentalizing and the the lock boxes that you described it. That stands true for so many people that are a survivor of abuse and have had to partition and compartmentalize, you know.

[00:23:13]>> surviving moment to moment. It's It's about surviving day to day. It's not even about surviving the future because you don't even know if you have a future.

[00:23:20]Because there are there are so many of us that that don't make it. There are so many of us that don't ever have a real future. Yeah. No matter again, no matter how much work you do, no matter how much therapy, no matter how much time passes, it's still there. It's still lives within inside of you. It still resonates inside of you. It turns into a scar that you you pick at and it's it's something that you can still almost physically see. Some people have physical scars from that trauma. So allow me to introduce you to the real Casey Anthony, because who is she really? This of course is the title of her upcoming memoir. She's offering an exclusive preview on her Substack. The links to everything as always will be in the description. I'm also able to gift some subscriptions. I'll explain how you can participate at the end of the video.

[00:24:05]She'll be looking to detail everything surrounding her early years and things about the case that were either never revealed or completely buried. Based not only on her own personal accounts, but with supporting documentation and evidence that she has held on to and collected over all these years. There was so much more that had happened before, during, and after this most tragic untimely death. And I implore you to take it into consideration.

[00:24:30]This series is going to be handled with the utmost care, concern, and in the best interest of Caylee. I want justice for all those who have endured harms and trespasses in childhood. But allow me to make myself perfectly clear because I know there will be mixed emotions about this.

[00:24:44]But if you've known me by now, I'm always very calculated and mindful of the investigations and subject matter that I choose to cover. There are many underlying elements that are the difference between adverse trauma and complex trauma. So I beg of you to keep an open mind and heart. You break a bone and that will heal. If as long as the bone is reset or you wear a cast, that bone will physically heal and likely never show a sign of trauma again.

[00:25:09]But those psychological wounds stay forever. Those emotional wounds stay forever. There There is nothing you can do to make them go away. I I wasn't even thinking about this because I will be fully candid, I forgot we were talking about doing this today, which is totally fine. But I was writing today. Usually Wednesday's my writing day. No, I spent some time today and got a chance to write and I was literally writing about this. I'm I'm going to send you some of of what I was writing. Okay. Um and it's you can see that it's sectioned out and I still have to build out and I still have to, you know, put a name to some of this stuff.

[00:25:49]Um but I'll I'll send you I'll I'll send you part of this but I I I started to go into the narrative about me and that's one of the weirdest things is is talking about yourself.

[00:26:01]And um let's see.

[00:26:05]I talk about even how traumatic it is being a a public figure. Yeah.

[00:26:10]>> But one of the things that that I said and this is a a full paragraph if you can indulge me for a second. Um We are surrounded by stories, some positive, many negative. Certain stories like those surrounding claims of sexual assault are becoming more frequent and it is not because this is a newer novel act being committed. We're finally seeing a world of women and men coming forward no longer in fear. I know firsthand the fear of coming forward with the trauma I've endured at the hands of men including my father.

[00:26:36]The first time I tried to talk about the abuse I was a victim of I was 19 years old. I could never say out loud that it was my father who hurt me but instead spoke of the trauma from another family member.

[00:26:44]A family member I had already forgiven who had not assaulted me but who did molest me for the better part of 3 years. I know what it is like to wake up in the middle of the night with someone laying on top of you, pulling your bra above your chest, groping your breasts, even grinding on you through the covers. I also know what it is like to have a pillow held over my face until I pass out, only to wake up feeling inexplicable pain in my after being raped. The first memory I have of this I was 8 years old.

[00:27:11]And I go into some of the other stuff with talking to my mom and then things with my case which goes directly to what we talked about and then the process of going through therapy and where do you start talking about this?

[00:27:25]Right. How How do you have those conversations? How do you How do you normalize talking about this with people?

[00:27:34]Because this is something I've had to broach with everyone I've had sexual contact with.

[00:27:39]Yeah.

[00:27:41]There are people that I've dated that I've never talked to this this about about them with any at any sort of length because there was never any chance of there being a vulnerable element. But the moment that that's even a possibility, I have to talk to someone and I have to tell them.

[00:27:56]Hey, so um I might freak out. So, just in case that happens, here's the reason why.

[00:28:06]And that is an awful feeling.

[00:28:11]Yeah. Because you don't know how someone's going to react.

[00:28:15]That is the furthest thing from a turn-on.

[00:28:18]That that is and for anyone with that that is a turn-on for which you know we now know there's millions of men that think that this is the the best [ __ ] thing and there's a special place in the hell that I don't believe in for those kinds of people. Yeah.

[00:28:34]But that's part of the reality.

[00:28:38]Because I can't hide that now.

[00:28:41]I've done too much work.

[00:28:44]And I've done too much to get to this place.

[00:28:47]I can't compartmentalize that part of my life anymore.

[00:28:50]Yeah.

[00:28:52]And it's freeing and and traumatical at the same time.

[00:28:58]Because I also have to say, "By the way, um please don't ever like grab a pillow and put it over my face." Like I'm not pillow fight people. It's not funny for me and I talked about this when filming the doc and this is one of many things that doesn't make the final cut. Um you know, cuz there's 6 months of footage and only is going to make it.

[00:29:17]>> Well, that's what the book the book's for, right? So, yeah. That's what we're here for.

[00:29:20]>> book is for. Yeah. And this was Maybe this is also part of the reason I've had hives.

[00:29:27]Oh, maybe the stress. Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:29:30]Oh, I'm so sorry. But I think it's like this is part of the healing, I think, for you to actually be heard, to have it put put out there and the full story to be heard. I think for you will be such a cathartic and healing part of it because of what you were painted so much as in society and by the media. And like you said, just that alone in being a public figure had comes with its own [ __ ] right? And just the the stalking and the harassing and the paparazzi and whatever [ __ ] comes with that, too, right? Um Well, and also having to vet your friends more. And if anything, it makes you more cautious and it makes you smarter [music] and you know, I I I respect the people that choose this life that are they're artists and musicians and and [music] the influencer thing to me is a a totally separate conversation. It's it's fascinating and also troubling and how many people just want so badly to be this embodiment of what Andy Warhol said, which is in the future everyone will be famous for 15 minutes and here's [ __ ] social media and and everyone trying to have 15 minutes. Yeah, it's so crazy.

[00:30:36]But then you remind people the internet is forever and it's true.

[00:30:41]You know, it's it's totally true, but >> Yeah. where there's all bad stuff you can find on the internet, there's so much good stuff that you can find on the internet and you've been able to find this stuff yourself. That's That's what I spend my time doing is is finding information.

[00:30:54]It's, you know, we do this in in different ways and for different reasons, but we're both researchers at heart.

[00:31:00]And it's it's fascinating. It's It's fascinating the the dynamic of this.

[00:31:05]Yeah. But it's important, too, like Sorry, go ahead.

[00:31:09]>> Yeah, it's it's also it's also detrimental because you go down that rabbit hole and you're seeking answers and whether you're seeking answers to for me to try to help a case or I'm seeking answers to try to pacify my own curiosity about something or there's a third side to that now, where is I'm still trying to find answers about my own life. Yeah.

[00:31:31]Yeah.

[00:31:31]>> All of these years later. I said that during the doc and I meant it. It was the truth then.

[00:31:37]Four years later, it's still the truth now. Yeah. It It still hasn't changed.

[00:31:42]But I'm the one that everybody expects answers from. How am I supposed to continue to confirm a negative? Yeah. Well, and I guess >> But it is. I guess this is why it's so important to have these conversations uh like in how you were saying about some of the triggers that uh it's almost like become a dysfunction for you as a result. That is a lifelong thing. Some of those things that I think to bring uh to bring to the forefront and to be able to normalize the conversation around the whole sphere of it and the whole outset.

[00:32:13]And yeah, how long it takes to try to heal from certain things. And like, yeah, like I just said, still trying to figure out throughout your life, probably still going to be having new new revelations about certain aspects, right? Uh so, I think part of having the destigmat- uh destigmatization and bringing it uh you know, making it less taboo to talk about altogether is is uh speaking your own experience and you have almost that that opportunity and that platform that instead of it being and continuing to always be about here's what happened and here's the case. No, what what was all going on and around it? All those little nuances and all those subtle things too that for their own situation help them their own understanding of the abuse that they were have gone through or how it affected them and maybe they don't understand yet, but that's a connection to like they freak out when they're trying to be with somebody and that's a struggle they have and they don't even know yet that that is something that probably connects to X Y Z, right? So just putting that information out there I think is so it's part of it. It's part of exactly what you're saying that we need to do.

[00:33:17]This is this is part of it, you know, you're such a part of a big part of >> erase the the stigma and the stink that is associated with being a victim and a survivor of sexual assault, of of station, of of abuse.

[00:33:36]Whether you are an adult or a child, it is still relative, it is still meaningful, it is still impactful and it still has real life long-term collateral repercussions.

[00:33:50]And this the real reason the stigma is out there is not because people are afraid of this information, it's because the people who perpetrate these crimes do not want to be held accountable. They want for victims and survivors to continue to be afraid and to continue to stay underneath that umbrella of power that they ultimately have over you.

[00:34:16]And this is something that every single person that I have spoken to that has even in just a domestic violence situation, even those cases go unreported and and underreported.

[00:34:30]All of these situations, there is statistical data that backs it up. And yes, women are still more likely to talk about it than men will because the stigma for men being victims is far more polarizing, but it's still there and it still happens. And it is so devastating. You become trauma bonded with people without even realizing when you find out.

[00:34:53]Especially for me, I've dated a couple people that have also been victims.

[00:34:59]And the two people that I can think of at the the front of my mind were both victims in church settings, which is very common, more common for men than women or for boys versus girls. For girls, it tends to happen more with people that they know Yeah. at home.

[00:35:17]Yeah.

[00:35:17]>> As opposed to for these younger boys, it's happening when they're at >> Like group clubs, like boy clubs, the scouts especially, but you know, the free movement >> the scouts, coaches. Yeah, so it's still people that are are in that that realm of of who's supposed to be safe. Guess what? My father was also a basketball coach for some of my brother's basketball teams. Now, the interesting part is my brother was in middle school.

[00:35:43]Mhm.

[00:35:44]You know, but it's it's a way to still be around other young kids and and other small children.

[00:35:50]It's it's a way for a an offender who whether or not he's a preferential offender, I don't know because there are different types of preferential offenders.

[00:35:59]But he's the type of person that wants to be around kids. And that's not to say that people who want to be around kids are bad people. Casey has been gracious enough to allow me nearly 5 hours of recorded interactions. After a full year of communicating and having thoroughly investigated this entire situation through a trauma and psychology informed lens, just want to break the ice here and get this introduction out of the way so you know what to expect in this upcoming series. Being that Casey is a very controversial public figure, there's going to be a lot of conflicting thoughts and opinions right off the bat.

[00:36:31]So, let's get it all out of our system so we can begin this series from an objective, logical, and reasonable angle.

[00:36:37]Not fueled by the intense emotions associated with this case and these most heinous crimes that we'll be discussing.

[00:36:44]It's important that we observe all the various angles surrounding the great big elephant in the room and all of its mentally deranged cousins who are [ __ ] on everything, everywhere, all of the time. If we want to stop swimming in this cesspool of society's [ __ ] we're going to have to do something different.

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[00:38:03]You want to go up?

[00:38:06]Mhm.

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