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pTGC & UFO on PulseChain Live Community Conversation 👽🛸 🔥 🚀Added:
Good morning.
Charles is in here. We're going to show you something that's Excuse me.
Haven't talked to anybody in a minute.
We're going to show you guys something that when I was looking at it, Charles, it made me think of you. You're the most bullish PTGC poster in history.
And what's up living the dream 369?
Good to see you. I'll make sure we're ready on spaces here.
But um Zen have been cooking up something.
And um I couldn't even tell this time. He's so he's so secretive about it.
Um but it looks like we're live and we're going to look at it. We're going to have a look at it. a little tool, a little uh a little weather forecaster.
Let's see. I got to get rid of Speaking of weather, something popped up on my uh computer. Okay, I got to do a little sanitizing here.
Give me just a minute. Just a minute.
Minute to win it. Hey, man. You guys are all popping in, man. It's good to see you. Okay, we're going to jump on spaces. So make your comments and I'll make the comment for you or jump on spaces. You can be in both places at the same time. I mean if you want to two G's Holland the Holland like pollen Zen cooking. Yeah. He's always working on something which is cool.
Turn my volume up.
Good morning.
>> I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. How are you doing? Just kind of getting things I'm just kind of getting things set up over here.
>> Yeah, I'm good. Just drinking my coffee.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, cool.
>> Doom scrolling Twitter a little bit this morning.
Yeah, doom scrolling. I'm familiar with that. I didn't know what it was until I realized I was doing it and I was like, "Oh, that's where they get the term from." Great.
I'm doing it, too.
Let's see.
Uh, yeah, I think I can do that.
All right, cool. Um, what did you think about the um the thread that I made yesterday?
I don't know if you saw it.
>> I like it. I did see it. Um, there's one thing in it.
>> Not quite right.
>> Yeah, I liked it a lot.
>> Cool. I got it. I made that from u from that other stuff that I was working on.
I just popped it into into um claw. I was like, "Make this into a thread for me." And it did. I thought that was the first time I've ever written a thread.
Got a few new followers out of it actually.
>> Yeah, I was thinking about I'm not sure I'm going to do it, but I'm thinking about making it my pinned post because, you know, people could instead of you can't watch a video while you're on spaces, but they could read, you know, about PTC.
Um, it'd almost be better if it was like you can't you Yeah, you can't combine a video and a thread. Not really. So, anyhow, just trying to think of ideas.
Not all of them are going to be good, but anyhow, I think it was useful to the top if anyone listening wants to see it.
>> Okay.
Yeah, it's it's a good one for um sending to people that you would like to have a look at PTGC.
It's like, okay, I'll just tell you guys what I did this week. I I put everything that I could think of about PTGC into I put it all into a GitHub. It's not public yet. It's almost done, but I got to I got to smooth the UFO portion because that's in there, too. But I put everything I know about both assets. I mean, practically, but I want what I'll do when I'm done with it is I'll pop it into the Telegram and if you guys have any feedback, anything I thought of because I was thinking of things as I was going along, I was like, "Oh man, got to include that. That's important."
But just um everything I know about the grace currencies is all going to be in this GitHub and then um it'll be a resource for anybody that wants to like make a post. You can literally go and copy all that material, all that text and pop it into an AI machine and and tell it what you want for an output. You know, if you guys are familiar with using chat GBT or Claude, you can pretty much tailor make a long post, a short post, a bullish post, you know, an introductory post, you can tone it down for no coiners, you know, and if you don't want to make it in your own words, you can go use that material. And it can be used for other things, too. It can be used for educating other people about the grace.
Yeah, that's awesome. You can pretty much use it as a source if you are ever doing anything with PTBT. You can educate your own claude or your own chatbt um with this source. Is that correct, Banana?
>> Yep. Yep. It's it's like >> you don't have to send it a bunch of random documents. You can just pretty much take this whole this whole page and and just copy paste it in.
>> Yeah. And like if ever if anybody was ever gonna like I don't know build a web page or something like that or make some marketing material, you can just go to this um GitHub and copy everything about PTGC and cherry you can just go cherrypick stuff you know like if you wanted to know everything about staking practically everything you just and if you don't know it all at the top of your head you just go there and copy the whole staking section.
So, that's what I was up to for several hours this week.
>> How far along are you on it?
>> I've got the UFO part done except for the I think it's called voice over or something like that.
That's the part that um Slade made some edits on and that actually worked out really well. I'm glad he um felt the liberty to do that. Um and and that's a that's very easy after and and UFO is easy anyhow. You know, it just doesn't have all the moving parts that PTDC does. PTDC typically when you're describing it, it takes about nine times longer. UFO nine or more UFO is just much more simple.
>> You you know one reason I think that that happens is because after you educate someone on PTC a lot of the features are very similar.
So you kind of have to educate most people from like ground zero but once they understand PTC they're like 90% there already with UFO.
>> Yeah.
Yep. So, I'll carve out some time to finish that out and uh then move on to the next steps.
What we're trying to do, guys, is we're trying to frontr run. And I'm I'm good.
I'm totally good saying this public, man, because PTGC done got an edge just as tokconomics, man. I'm like, I'll tell I'll go I I'll go tell all the founders, all the crypto founders, all the developers that they should be doing this, but go for it. May the best May the best tokens win.
We're trying to make sure that we're properly educating AI agents um for how to get access and uh to get you know by PTGC and UFO and we're just exploring it and I'll be I'll be honest man like there's not a lot of information out there about this these AI machines they think they know what they're doing but even even they're a little conflicted about how to proceed. I think because it's so new. But get this guys, they estimate the estimates are that by 2030 80% of crypto transactions will be bots.
So, um, what we're thinking is let's make sure that we are included in that because the the world deserves to know about PGDC and if we and if we don't perhaps be proactive about getting the word out about PGDC and making sure that bots can encounter these currencies, then maybe they won't.
So that was the idea behind the GitHub two. I was querying three different AIs and two of them agreed build a GitHub and the other one unfortunately was like nah don't build a GitHub and I was like okay we're just going to build a GitHub I don't care and so we I did it and I built everything into one spot and it's and it's pretty cool because you're actually it's written like when you guys see the GitHub it's written for AI agents very it's very strange it's not written to be read by humans necess necessarily, but like I said, you can pop everything in into AI and have it reformat it for you.
But the idea is for to equip these AI agents with not only the tokconomics, but different phrases that they can use to talk to other AIs. That's how it works. And talk to humans and market the graze currencies and all all of that stuff. It's it's almost it's mind-blowing. Like I don't even have my my head wrapped around all of it and I've been doing this for I don't know all week.
But that's the idea is to frontr run this technology that's coming.
And my mindset is that if we're proactive about it, then we can perhaps not make gains by pure accident because I think we're going to make gains either. We'll make gains without this technology, but with this technology, these AI agents investing for humans, you know, we're going to make some gains. How much more if we're proactive about it. And what's nice is it's kind of a set it and forget it situation because setting up a g a GitHub all, you know, 99% of the work is done up front and then you just it's done. you might want to update it annually with some new numbers and such, but >> I love tasks like that. That was always like the goal with the PTGC and UFO code as well. You know, decentralized renowned code, you know, like we focused, you know, a good chunk of years on the design and the buildout of it, but then once it was done, it was done.
And now there's obviously the focus on the community growth and the education, >> but you know, it's not like this thing that you constantly have to maintain and have maintenance on and stuff like that. With most with most businesses or products out there, that's that is something that you have to, you know, there's fees involved and, >> you know, overhead. And with >> PTVC and UFO, it's they're done. There's no overhead. It's running. It generates revenue every single day. Um, some days more than others, especially when liquidity and prices go back up, it increases massively. That's one of the tools, the things with the tools that we're going to be talking about today.
Um, how much that actually increases over time and how it compounds, etc. But yeah, things where you spend a lot of time and you build, but then it's pretty much 100% done. It's it's awesome.
>> Yeah. That's the best.
That's the best kind of work.
Yeah, that's the way I looked at it when when I got into Hex. I was like, "Oh, this is so great, man. You just stake your tokens and let them cook." And the same thing with PTGC, man. You know, you stake your tokens, you might lock them, too, and you just let them build and set it and forget it. Just go live.
>> Let the price grow. Let the price grow.
And you know, hopefully your bag gets to a point where it's large enough to where the APY that you're receiving is enough to possibly live off of or you do a lot of X's and you just scrape off a portion of your bag for profits, however you play it. But for the most part, you get your bag, you state your bag or just hold your bag, whatever you feel com you lock your bag, whatever you feel comfortable with, what kind of APY you're looking to get, and let the machine do the work for you.
You know, you see a lot of times in crypto, most people lose because of the user interaction, right?
They click something that they shouldn't have clicked and it drains their wallet because they're just trying to click buttons. Or they almost go down a rabbit hole too deep and they start getting too risky and they start putting value into things that are, you know, gambling meme tokens or this or that or, you know, maybe they put a lot of value in something that has what they believe is legit potential.
But you have to also understand 99.9% of those legit potential things also fail due to code issues, due to community issues, due to, you know, bad timing, due to no utility. Um, you name it, right? It's like a long list of things that create failure in cryptocurrency because the success rate is so low. Um, and you can chop yourself up that way.
So, I think especially at these low levels um in crypto, if you got Ethereum at 2,000 bucks, which is a pretty much a 60% dip of not only this cycle's all-time high, but even last cycle's all-time high, which is just an extreme discount. You have alts pretty much not even making an all-time high last cycle and a lot of them 95% down plus. So you can kind of just pick and choose what you think has the potential to be success successful. And you don't even have to pick things that are brand new. You can pick things that have years and years of a track record and proof of the product market fit and the utility behind the proto and community behind the protocol. And I think that's where PTD and UFO really stand out. Um, and you know, I think this cycle is going to be the tell. There's not a lot of tokens that can make new all-time highs the following cycle. And I do the numbers, I do the math, I look at the community, and I look at it just as like a walk in the park for PCDC. And I feel like once we conquer that milestone, it's going to really open up to a lot of users um you know, how strong the system actually is.
>> Yep.
It's a strong system, boy.
Going back to what you're saying about leveraging AI, you know, one thing I've been kind of playing around with the idea of um and you're mentioning that 80% of trading will be done by bots.
Even if you know 80% is done by bots, I I bet even that 20% the user making the trades are going to be leaning on AI to make decisions as well. So, even if it's not a bot making the decision, making the move, users are going to start asking AI and having AI read charts.
>> And that's one thing I've been playing around with. Um, you know, for the Dow for it to be constantly reading, you know, where we are in the market. Have it read PTBC, have it read the things we like to pair with like E, like Pulse, and also, you know, read where the market is. Is it at lows where it makes sense for us to put value in risk on asset or are we at highs where it makes sense for us to put value in the stable coins? just constantly having it read that data and give us information like hey based on looking at Ethereum looking at PulseChain looking at PTBC looking at stable coin and where we are in the market right now it might make the suggestion of hey we think buying burns right now makes sense or we think adding LP with Ethereum right now makes sense or we think um you know let's say it's two years later a year and a half later we're at some super awesome numbers.
Everyone's super happy and it's making the suggestion like, "Hey, we think building up a stable coin." Lo people right now makes the most sense. Market's super high in cryptocurrency. Or maybe it gives the suggestion to just hold stable coins and wait for massive dips um which all tokens do have. We're hoping PTGC this next goound becomes more sustainable um due to liquidity growth to um divers or distribution just like how over time Bitcoin and Ethereum have became more sustainable because of growth and evolution of these currencies. But um having not only the community be part of the DAO but also kind of put a community in a community suggestion in there from AI itself and then the community could always look at that suggestion and say hey I like that or we don't have to listen to it as a community but just always kind of having it give us like a nonbiased and emotional opinion on it.
>> Interesting.
Okay.
What I was thinking about earlier this week is that I mean just think about all the all the learning we had to do before we landed on the best asset in cryp crypto the greatest currencies all the all the all the streams we had to listen to listen to the reading we had to do the listening on spaces all this stuff everybody except for Walter had jumped straight into PTGC I think probably went through quite a learning curve. Well, guess what? AI and these machines, they already know it. They already know everything that we know and a whole lot more. They're not human, but they're way beyond us. So people coming into crypto going forward, I mean if they if they're aware of AI, all they got to do is go to Grock or one whatever you know AI machine is good at cryp crypto and start asking questions because I don't know about you but my head was spinning when I when I first discovered crypto and I was like okay which ones you know well now we have machines that we can query and they are going to know the best ones and which ones to to stay away from. I mean, I hope they do. If they're smart, they do.
>> So, and um I like >> Yeah, people won't have to do as much research. They're just going to lean on AI to do the research for them.
>> 100%. And a lot of the speaking I think is going to be done with like what you said GitHub files for it to read. And then also um charts, you know, they're going to do a lot of chart reading. I think they're going to do a lot of community reading, seeing the activity of communities on social media, the size of communities. Um >> and I think PTGC has a really good chance of standing out in all those.
>> Yeah. You know, >> code I think is a big deal. I think it understands that. um max supplies, deflationary tokconomics, built-in APY, trustless yield, all the features that we love about PTDC AI will love for their user that they're looking for projects for. Yep. We just have to get in front of them because we are in a space of a lot of different projects.
It's a lot of noise. Um and there's probably a lot of great projects, too. I think PTC and UFO stand out as some of the better ones, but um we we have to break through that noise. That's always been the hard thing about cryptocurrency is there's a massive increase in launch of tokens. Um, you know, with most of the light being shined on brand new ones that launch that day and we have to always stand out in front of those new projects and remind users, you know, hey, this you play that game all you want. You know, some people aren't really even into that game, but there are good long-term sustainable products that can do crazy amounts of X's over time. And that's really the tool that I want to dig into that I spent some time building for the community. I was working on it like a year and a half ago, just building it with Excel. Um, but I did run into some hiccups with some of the math equations and ultimately just put it to the side. but recently kind of started working on it again, utilizing AI to help me with some of these equations to really showcase what PTDC could be in the future, leaning on, you know, the fact that we're on a blockchain that has potential to go up. It hasn't been going up for three years. So, um I think that's creating a massive discount, a massive re a massive revaluation period I think upon us here soon. um you know that's kind of factored into it but you can adjust how much of that revaluation you think is going to happen. If you think it's only a 2x from here you can put a 2x. If you think you know in the near future let's say in the next year you think pulse chain could revalue 10x you know you can put that number in. Keep in mind a 10x on PC chain is still below the sacrifice price of five years ago the price most people paid. Um or if you think it's a lot higher of a number, right? Let's say you think it's a 50x, right, which is right above it all trends alltime high. So nothing super crazy, especially with Clarity Act coming out soon. Um if ETH actually starts ripping, we have a founder who has the potential to pretty much send this chain and revalue it anywhere he feels fit. Not that he's going to, but it can it can get to some pretty high levels with very little net positive injections into the chain. I think Banana we ran what was it like 10 million or $20 million on Monday and it did like a 40x.
>> Yeah, I don't remember ex I don't remember that exactly.
>> Okay. But yeah, so point being is um I've always wanted to build a calculator that can create simulations into the future utilizing some community growth based on real numbers because we're a two and a half year old product. We know how many holders we're picking up a year at the bottoms, right? Obviously, we think as PC chain grows, as we grow, these numbers can increase, but you can use the modest numbers. Um, averages what you think like the average user is bringing in. Um, some users bring in only $1,000, some users bring in $200,000. Right? So, you're picking like an average between the user. Um, what kind of growth you think PC chain could do on average yearly, if that's a 2x growth, 50% growth, 300% growth, whatever you think that could be. Um, and then also the code buying. So that's one thing that's very unique about PTGC is it has multiple protocols buying it.
It has UFO buying it. um when markets were picked up, we saw UFO buying thousands of dollars of PTDC to I think at one time we had it buying $10,000 of PTC daily and just sending it all to the debt address um PTDC itself itself to pay out APY. It buys itself to burn it. It buys itself to ADL LP and it buys itself or and it also has a Dow that can buy itself also with not a guarantee of all of that value going to buy PTC. But keep in mind guys, even adding LP, you have to buy PTC to do it.
Buying birds, you have to buy PTC to do it. A very large percentage of the PTGC value generation goes directly to buy pressure on PTGC. And this tool kind of shows how that compounds over time and as you go multicycle or multi-year, how you can start hitting numbers on PTGc that for most people seem impossible when they're have these short-term mind frames. A lot of people are looking like what's PTG going to be at a year from now, right? You know, it's dependent on the user increase we have, the net positive amounts of value, and what we get out of pull chain. That's more like the X multiplier idea or the moon map calculator idea. Um, but also I want users to look at, okay, once we get that multiplier, that X multiplier effect and we're revalued on PTGC, let's say we're up 50x from here. Well, when we're up 50x, the machine is going to be running at another level. I like to really call this point on this new tool year zero.
This is like the start of PTDC. PTDC isn't really even on yet. We're on a blockchain that's going 10x from the launch price. And yes, we're still doing great. We're still generating revenue every single day. But I truly believe our year zero, our turning on of the machine is when we get this revaluation point. when we get the blockchain moving in the right direction and when we get, you know, PTDC revalued at levels where we're not sitting on $2 million between PTDC and UFO, but we're sitting on $20 million of um liquidity between P2DC and UFO, $40 million of liquidity between PTC and UFO, which we've been at those levels before. Um that's like our all-time high range. And if you guys don't remember, we're generating like a million dollars of volume daily with a good portion of that coming from the machine itself.
>> And that's the best volume is coming from the machine itself.
>> It is because the volume coming from the machine or in general it's mechanically driven. So it's not so much based on user interaction but mechanical interaction. It's just due to the market moving up and down, we generate volume, which means we generate value generation off of it. Um, which is very important even for any cryptocurrency, which most cryptocurrencies don't have any value generation. Why? And this is why I don't think I think most cryptocurrencies are once P2DC hits this revaluation point once it's hitting like a few years in after this revaluation point this year zero marker um I I think most cryptocurrencies will have a really hard time keeping up and you'll see on this chart why it's so important because when you have a user buyer you have to eventually have sell pressure on the chart because most users take profits right you can't expect a user to hold their bag for infinite amounts of time, you know, after a 100x, a 1000x or whatever the project does. But with the system, with the PTD code, you can depend on the the code itself and the machine itself to never sell their bags and never stop buying. Um, the PCDC could buy $1,000 worth of PCDC today. I think today it's bought and burnt like 500 bucks or whatever. and PTDC could do 100x. And guess what?
Those tokens still will never be sold for profit. They're right to the debt address. And the other cool thing is guess what? After 100x, PTC is still buying itself. It doesn't matter how high price goes, it will continue to actually buy itself. And not only buy itself, but buy itself at a higher rate because everything is going higher. the liquidity pools are higher which and user base will be higher which makes more volume which makes more value generation and this chart really shows how that can compound on itself with a relatively successful blockchain. So a blockchain consistently grinding in the correct direction instead of downwards without any even crazy numbers. We can throw some crazy numbers in there for fun. Um the numbers that PTDC ends up with ultimately look in a way almost impossible. That's how crazy this is.
>> Yeah.
>> Um but look at Bitcoin and Ethereum went from a dollar to $100,000. So I I think people have to understand that with time >> and with products that are not going anywhere that don't die off these kind of numbers are actually possible and it's up to the community to stay relevant. We know the code's going to stay relevant. As long as Pulse chain stays relevant, I do think some of these things are possible and you'll see how easy they actually are with some time.
>> Right on.
Sounds good. Um I asked on So, actually, we'll just ask everybody if you guys got input for, you know, as we go through this, we'd like to have your input.
>> Yes. Yeah. So there's some main questions, you know, there's some fill out fields that you have to fill out based on what you believe is possible for the community and for PulseChain.
And um as you fill those fields out, it starts pretty much calculating it for you on what the end results are yearly.
So what the end results are for price, market cap, liquidity, value generation, etc. And then it will give you year one, year two, year three, all the way up to year 10. Um, so we'll ask, you know, I actually made a post asking the questions, but we can ask them again here. If you guys have a suggestion for a field that you want us to plug in, just type it in on Banana's chat. I actually suggest anyone who cares about seeing the tool, um, hop over to Banana's YouTube right now and you can actually look at it on his screen instead of just hearing us describe each box. it's going to be a lot easier to understand and I think you'll get a a better picture of, you know, really what this is predicting with with visually and then also you can chime in what numbers you want plugged in in each section by hopping over to his YouTube.
You just throw it in the comments, >> right? Yep. So, um, throw them in the comments or you can, you know, jump up and and, you know, say something on X.
And this site is private for now, right?
>> Yeah, I'm still probably making a few adjustments, but and then I'm hoping to give it over to Shaka and I think he'll add it onto his site for me um if he wants to. But yeah, it's just right now private.
>> Okay.
>> If anyone wants it themselves, I can send it to you. Just DM me just like how I sent it over to Banana. But it's not on a website yet.
Okay. Yep.
All right. Um, yeah, let's let's go through some scenarios. So, I'm showing just the the top part of the site right now. And, uh, we haven't even scrolled down to see what's down below, you know, the results. So, the results are dependent on the inputs up here at the top. And the first one is the year zero LP multiplier. And you can make a selection between 2x, 5x, 10x, and so on. Or you can input your own. And that's that's an LP multiplier, right? I'm just gonna just be I'm just gonna ask that's pretty much the revaluation of the chain. And now we have a massive LP or growing LP with Ethereum. So it's it's all of those combined.
um whatever okay our liquidity does we're going to get pretty much an average of everything we're connected to based on its size. So the more weight we have in sections like pulse you know that's going to have a heavier weight than you know a small section like let's say a small token we only have $20,000 of LP with. So it's based on the size but then based on what they do. So what you're saying is like okay we see what PTGc's LP index is. this is what they generate revenue off of. I think the average of all these tokens based on their size is going to do this in the revaluation phase. That revaluation phase can be you know a market uptick you know on Ethereum and where PC chain could go or where when PC chain finally gets a market uptick that could be you know what I believe is within the year.
I think there's a massive revaluation point coming here soon for EVM in general for Ethereum and PulseChain. I think it's completely undervalued right now. And then you kind of just need to make the pick. Where do you think that revaluation point is? And Banana, before anyone tells us their answer, guys, if you want to come up and speak, feel free to come up and speak. You could add to the combo. Um, or just put your number in the comments and then we could play with those numbers, too. But banana, what what is like a revaluation point and don't go like crazy crazy bullish like the numbers you want to see, but what do you think is a fair like revaluation point of Pulse Chain in general or of our liquidity web here in the near future?
>> Wow. Near future I would put it at like a 2x on the high side.
>> What time time frame? What do you think that 2x is? Because when I say near future might be different than your new near future.
>> Yeah, near future for me is like three months.
>> Okay. What do you think year?
>> One year. Oh, it could be 10x.
I think 10x is reasonable because we've got clarity act coming and there was some news on that. They're making movement movement on it on May 14th.
That's that's bullish. Um everything I'm a lot of the things that I'm seeing is looking great for crypto. you know, stock markets topping out, all this stuff. Um, which is looks great for crypto. So, a 10x in LP in the next year. I mean, if we have a bull run.
>> Yeah.
Of course, that's hopeful thinking, too.
>> Yeah. So where that kind of gets pulsechain and from my experience I think we could even get a pulse chain a little lower than this because we have a lot of our LP with all tokens and all tokens usually do multipliers over the gas token in bull runs. This is what PTBC has done in the past and what every RH ticker has done in the past as well.
When ETH starts going up, Pulse goes up more. Usually ETH usually starts but PCSC chain kind of finishes a little bit more than ETH and every single sustainable alt token on PCH will usually outperform PC as well like PEX PTC UFO etc. So, um, so yeah, we can get that fairly easily, I think, in in an up uptrend market, you know, with Ethereum hopefully going to all-time highs. And, you know, I think we could very easily see a pulse chain that's 407, you know, 408. Those aren't even sacrifice numbers.
>> Okay.
>> So, yes, if if you want, throw a 10 in there.
>> Okay. We got a 10 in there. That's what I That's the actually the one that I've been using to to model this.
>> That's where that's the number I've been using a lot too. I think that's just for me that's like the revaluation point. I think PulseChain in general is is 10x undervalued right now and that could be due to >> the Pulsechain situation, right? I think the Pulsechain situation alone we're 5x undervalued. Like I just think right now Pulsion is 5x undervalued because before like Provex launch before a couple things have knocked us down I feel like we were holding 5x higher than here decently well. Um and we can very easily with very few amounts of value into this chain just shoot right back up these levels. Um and then I also think we're undervalued because Ethereum's undervalued. So, I think a revaluation up to that could happen super quickly.
Um, I I don't even think we necessarily need to wait a year. I think it could come rapidly fast with just the market finally moving in the direction that we want.
>> Okay. You know what I think would be valuable is do a 10,000 foot level overview of the site and then start and then just pick up where we left off up there with the LP.
>> Cool.
>> Okay, let's do that. So, we're going to input an LP multiplier. And again, we we would like input from the community about, you know, because we can do anything we want in this any kind of numbers we want. Um, and we'd like to hear what you guys have to say. We're not the only ones with our ear to the ground. So, we got a LP and then an ongoing annual LP growth and you pick a percentage and scrolling on down and then the sell pressure settings, code buyback settings, volume scenario, medium, strong, peak, and then up here in the upper right, user adoption, how many new wallets per year, how much are these people inputting into the system?
Is it $5,000? Is it $10,000? And then you can select for your charts, linear or log. I like to use log. It kind of gives me for me a better visual. And then here's the results, right? So here's our growth components. 10year trajectory. You think we're thinking long term here. I like it. So you've got um now year zero, year one on out to 10.
And then then there are two more charts.
User adoption per year and cumulative broken out annual buy pressure organic versus code. And I really like this.
I love that. And then at the very bottom, you got a year zero snapshot.
Um, PTGC at year zero. Then PTGCLP at year zero. Um, actually there is another chart, isn't there? 10-year price trajectory.
And then down here at the very bottom, yearby-year breakdown starting with year zero at the top going out to year 10. So that's the overview guys of what Zen has been cooking. Now let's go um put the inputs in that are going to drive the results in the rest of this thing.
So I'm with you. I think a a 10x on LP uh in the next year is reasonable. It's a reasonable um I don't like to use the term expectation, but you know, hope.
>> Yeah. And I I think it's modest, too, right? When we go back in time, you know, I think a lot of people were hoping out of pole chain 10x sacrifice price. Even you heard 100x sacrifice price. And I think eventually we can get to those numbers on pole chain just with time and with recovery and with distribution with the chain showing a reversal and strength of moving to the upside. Um but but we got to keep working in that direction, right? So I think the 10x the revaluation point of a 10x that's a good starting point for for this chart. It's called year zero, right? That's the revaluation point. And um that's where I believe the machine really turns on. I still believe, you know, I say the that we're still, you know, we're still in neutral. We're still in the driveway. We haven't put this thing into gear yet. Um when this thing gets put into gear, I think everyone's going to be amazed with, you know, how much value this thing can actually generate, how many users actually flock over to this product because it truly is everything what everyone's looking for. It's just unnoticed right now because of, you know, the fact that it's been suppressed, you know, due to the market and due to the um the blockchain. But I do think that suppression is opportunity to get a position in PTC for dirt cheap if you don't have a position already or if you're onboarding people, right? It's better to onboard people at the bottoms than at the mids or at the highs.
>> Absolutely.
>> Yeah. But let's keep going. Um, >> so after we get that revaluation phase that that 10x roughly from here, >> what do you think like on average throughout the next 10 years, what kind of growth chain could have or you know our liquidity web could have yearly?
>> Well, I think maybe like a 1.25x would be reasonable. I think it's going to grow. It's going to grow just from the mechanics for um so I don't know 1.2 We we hope whole chain grows, right? Like the the only other thing is it sits flat at that that level forever or it goes back down. And I think what we're all hoping for is consistent growth after we find the bottom. Um you know, and these are averages. I think every single cycle is going to have those high points and then their low points. What we're mainly talking about here is like the consistent growth model. You know, Ethereum has had consistent growth over the years. Bitcoin has had consistent growth over the years. B&B's had consistent growth over these years.
>> Salana's had consistent growth over the years. Um, you know, obviously there is like that massive price appreciation zone where it moves up and >> and that can be factored in as well. Um, but more importantly, I think it's just important to realize like, hey, we're at super low prices. I think we're due for a revaluation and then we need to have consistent growth. We need to show people that this is a product that's appreciating over time. And I think this product I think Pulchin as a whole will get there. I think we're going to get this appreciation and then I think we're going to have consistent growth. Um is that consistent growth 100% yearly on average throughout multiple years or is that 50% or is that 200% or is that 25%.
You know, every user I think has their own opinion on it. Um, I think it also depends on the market in general, >> but you know, you anyone could put this in. Banana, what what did you think would be a good number to throw in there?
>> One a good conservative number and you guys are going to see you don't got to put in pie in the sky numbers for PTGC to work out. I just I was thinking like one and a quarter% LP growth of 1.25x.
25x.
>> So a 25% increase.
>> Yeah. I mean I mean because a doubling if you did a 2x um that's doubling every year and I'm thinking okay we're this is a twoyear a 10year span. So conservative 1.25x.
>> Okay. Yeah. Throw in the I think there's a 25% bubble there. I got that right or no?
>> Yep. Yeah.
>> Okay. So that's 25% growth and then new users coming in. This is interesting because we have already had so much adoption. How much adoption could we estimate the numbers that I got over to you were and this is for everybody's point of reference in the last year we've onboarded what I think it was like 3200 but then in all of 2025 it was closer to like 6,300 or something like that. So >> yeah, and and both 2025 and in the last year, Pulse Shane's been going down in general and the market's been kind of chopping sideways slashgoing down. So right >> in a downtrend market, it's actually the hardest times to onboard. Um so I think these are very modest um numbers to work with actually the 3,000 and even the 6,000.
I've been using 5,000.
>> Okay. Yeah, let's use 5,000.
>> It's a it's a nice round number. I think um it's kind of an average of those two numbers. And if we're going into a bull season, I think that's going to be 5,000 a year minimum. I think that's bearish, but I I like to be conservative for this. So, I like what I like to do, Zen, is do the conservative estimates and then and then crank it up a little bit. That's how I like to do it.
>> Yeah. You guys see even with these conservative numbers, like the end result, if you can hold on to your bag, um, is still just insane.
>> They're not.
>> Yeah. Um, and it's it's about hoggling.
Like the reason people in Bitcoin made so much is if they hodddled their bag through through the time periods, through the years, through the multi-ycle because when you start getting a few years in, the increases are absolutely massive for the users who got their positions early, right?
Bitcoin going from 60,000 to 120,000 is a 2x for someone who bought at 60,000, but it's a lot more X's for someone who bought it in at 10 bucks, right?
Totally.
>> It's just about getting to that point, being sustainable enough and having enough utility and product market fit in a in a strong community to get to that point. And that kind of is what this showcases is as a community if we can get ourselves to that point and if Pulsechain can stay relatively successful like you just saw what Banana just put was a a 10x revaluation period on Pulchain and only 25% increase yearly on the chain. That's in my opinion just moderately successful.
That's no crazy bullcase scenario.
That's just moderate success based on other blockchain success.
>> Yep. Yep. I like what Livein the Dream said in the chat. He says, "Whether it happens in year zero or three, if you're not in a rush, it's really no big deal."
And I know this gentleman and he's a long-term thinker. And he says again, he says 100% we need long-term minded investors in this ecosystem. And they're they're they're here.
Let let me introduce a term that I that that I thought of before I forget about it. It's um because whenever you not whenever but oftentimes when we when we talk to people about X multiplier and that sort of thing, you know what do we hear back from people? Well, what about all the cell pressure? Oh, the cell pressure. Yes, the cell pressure. It's real. Okay. But you know what I've been realizing and I've heard this, you know, especially like from Mando years ago.
He's like, when people understand PTGC, they're not going to want to let it go.
So, there's not only going to be sell pressure, but there's going to be hold pressure, too, you know.
So, okay, new users per year, a moderate 5,000.
Average price injection per per users.
How I have no idea what people are inputting into this system. like a dolphin position is that's how you that's actually how you could figure it out is is there a way to find out how much has been sold and how many dollars they bought it was purchased with. Do you have any idea like how much people are like each wallet is putting into the system?
>> It it's so dependent on the user, what country they live in, etc. Um, so you kind of have to just pick an average.
Like you have to realize when things are moving up. We saw people coming into PTDC with hundreds of thousands of dollars. Um, but you also see users coming in with 500 bucks, right?
>> So I I've been plugging in numbers between 3,000 and 5,000. And that's just the average user you're taking into consideration. Some people are going to come in with less, some people are going to come in with a lot more. Um, yes, you know, every user has a different situation. Some have extra finances that they're willing to put into speculative asset, some don't have that much extra.
Um, and or, you know, it's a lot for them. So, I I've been using those numbers. Um, I think 3,000 bucks gets a dolphin right now. Y 5,000 gets you a little bit more than a dolphin in PTC.
And also keep in mind when things start going up, people tend to to spend more money, right? When things are at the bottom, the average person might be throwing in a thousand bucks. But this is not >> only about right now. It's about like when things when we hit that year zero mark, which is the revaluation point, what do you think like the average person will be coming in with? It could actually be a lot more than 5,000 because when bull markets are kicking, people start throwing around 20k like no one's business.
>> I put tens of thousands into hex when I first got into it. And it's worth like five bucks right now. I'm exaggerating, but it's true, man. And I'm no one special.
And I and I man, when I got a hold of this thing, I was all crypto. I was all in, man.
So, I think a modest I think five grand per holder or we could split the difference between three and five and make it four. You want to do that?
>> I I think five is a good number to be honest with you. I I know how much I've put into cryptocurrency. I think anyone can put any anyone can put um in the chat what they think is a fair number, but I I think most people put more than 5k in the cryptocurrency um by a lot. So, what we're saying is like, hey, we think they'll park 5k here. I I think as being as we prove ourselves to be a true store of value system, I think people we bring gains to this protocol for long-term sustainable growth. I think the number could actually be massive, but we're trying to be modest.
>> Yep. Living the dreams, he suggested um 3,000. It's a that's a dolphin position.
>> We can do that, too. Or we can do both.
You know, it doesn't take much to click the button after we get it all filled out.
>> Yep. Yep. Okay. Let me get my screen back here. 30,000.
I like it. And then you need to select an annual user growth multiplier. You can make it flat. 1.25x. And a flat just means you're going to add 3,000 holder uh 5,000 new holders putting in 3,000 bucks every year. 1.25x 25x is a modest increase from that. Yes. Stylus thinks four to 5,000. Extra crypto thinks 5 to 10,000.
Yo.
Yeah, I think we can play with all of them. Um it's it's actually pretty interesting what the numbers turn out to be. um it when you when you start playing around with them um and where most of the growth even comes from in the future is is pretty mind-blowing. Um but yeah, let's start with five and then we'll do a three and then we'll also do a 10.
How's how's that sound?
>> Let's do it.
>> So, does anyone if if they're typing, does anyone have an increase? Do you think our holder increase will be relatively flat throughout the next 10 years or do you think we're going to be increasing it every single year based on our community size, our track record, our sustainability, all the features that we have growing? Do you think we can increase that? I personally think we can increase that yearly. Um, especially with the PulseChain environment turning around new and the referral system just came out. I think when Pulse Chain turns around and it shows it's shows that it's not a sinking ship, which it looks like, you know, right now, I think getting in new holders is going to be a walk in the park. When we're rock and we're picking up 40 holders a day, um I think truthfully, I think we can very easily get back to those levels. So, I've been putting in an increase at least of 1.25.
>> Yep. Um and uh Stylus echoes that and so does living the dream. And I want to read what Charles do your own research has to say. He says, 'What was anyone else part of the insane safe moon FOMO?
I see that same FOMO coming for PTGC.
Only PTGC is a sustainable deflationary system on layer 1 that'll be exploding to the upside beneath it. Yeah, good point, man.
>> Yeah, I studied the Safe Moon product pretty in depth. Um, not only their rise, but their demise as well. a rise in their demise. Yeah. Well, let's do >> they're picking up thousands of folders daily. Thousands.
>> I think what we'll do is we'll do like 3,000 and then somebody suggested going through all the multipliers. So, maybe we'll do that for we'll go up to f uh 10,000 and come back to four and then go through some the multipliers something like that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. We can the button once we get it all filled out and everyone understands what each button does, you can click through this really quick and you know create the different scenarios.
>> Okay, so we've got 5,000 new uh new users in a year each spending 3,000 1.25x annual growth multiplier. Now let's scroll down and the first chart that we encounter is the growth components 10-year trajectory. And I'll start over here.
>> We we still have a box to fill out.
>> Oh, we do. Which one's that?
>> Oh, the cell pressure.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So, so one thing that's set up on this is we have the cell pressure on the human interaction side, not on the codebase buy side. Um, because the code isn't going to sell, right? The buying burns, they can never sell. So that's one thing that's super special about buying burns and protocols that generate utility that buy up their chart and send it to the dead address is those tokens actually can never be sold. The human interaction side can be sold. So we have to pick what do you think the human interaction side is going to be. I've been putting it at 95% personally because most people do sell and take profits with a portion of their bag.
This is one thing that's interesting to our community though is I think as we educate, as we onboard strongholders that believe in this system long term, I think we could actually decrease that as a community because of the sustainability um and all the features that we're all here for. But what do you think it could be in the future? Banana >> sell pressure. Yo.
Okay. Well, let's use the experiment >> guys if you know if you guys have a button you want to start with and we can click around.
>> I'm going to hearken back to what I got from Grock on spaces two or three weeks ago in the Saturday spaces where I did the experiment of how much would need to be injected for a 10,000x $38,000 well pressure. Okay, you got to actually bring in 180 a million $180 million would get rock estimates $180 million would be sold down to $38 million. So 180 divided by we'll call it 40 4.5.
What what is that a what is that in percentage Z? What would that be in cell pressure?
180 down to um 40.
>> Was that 20% roughly?
>> It's got to be more than that. That'd be um wouldn't it 180? Let me see how many times 40 goes into.
>> Oh, >> what is that? 22%.
>> Yeah, I think so.
>> 22%.
>> Yes, it's 22. Uh, so it' be 80% cell pressure.
>> I guess it's pretty good. 20%, I guess.
>> Yeah, but that'd be like 80% off of 80% off the >> 80% cell pressure.
>> Yeah. So, I'm going to set it to 75.
I'll set this to 75. Yeah, stylus backs me up.
What do you think?
>> Yeah, we'll we'll move we can toggle it around in a little bit. I I want to do one with it toggled a little higher, too.
>> Okay.
>> Um but but let's start with 75.
>> It'd be cool if we could um do the same thing where you can with the other ones.
You can adjust it manually, >> you know.
Oh, type in the number, not just >> Yeah, because then we can do the actual, you know, >> 78 to do that. Make everything just type inable. But those are the quick buttons.
>> Yeah. So, quick button 75% for sell pressure code buyback percent of the 5% trade fee. So, this is how much is the code buying back of the using that 5% fee. um how much is the code going to buy of PTDC and take it off the market and I >> take it off the market permanently. So right off the bat like and I want to explain >> I didn't want to make this like too in depth. So I kind of I lump in UFO to this. I know UFO will continue buy PTVC at a high rate. So I kind of put an extra 1% on there for UFO. Um UFO's volume hasn't been high as PTVC. So, I think you have to take UFOs with not a full amount. So, I've been tacking on like an extra 0.5 in my head for UFO. Um 0.5 for the auto buy and burn of PTD. Um and then you got the Dow. Let's say 50% of the value of the Dow goes to and that's only 50%. That's pretty much saying like every single move moving forward is an LP ad. Buy PTC, buy um the other token, pair it up.
So that's, you know, now you're sitting at 2% of the 5%. And then you also have the LP ad when half of that LP ad has to go to buying PTDC. Code could never sell that PTDC. And then you have all the rewards being paid out, which all is in PTDC, but users can sell their rewards, right? So, you have to factor in that's a sellable one. I think 25 to 50% is very very fair. I've been playing with both of them. Um, I I do think 50% is is possible, right? I don't think moving forward 100% of the Dow is going to be only LP ads. A good portion will be buying burns. So um when they're buying burns 100% of that 2% that's 40% right there. You know if the if the Dow is doing 100% buying burns that's 40% of the you know of the value generation just there. That doesn't even factor in all the other things we just listed.
>> Okay. So >> maybe I'll ask uh because I don't think you can type in that to that one either.
Maybe I'll I'll make that you can type it in too to pick like a 40% or whatever.
>> Yeah. That way people can get more granular if they're really nerdy. Living the dream says, "Do we know the actual average cell pressure to date on PTGC?"
Whoa.
any idea, >> you know, >> all the way to or a 50k market cap all the way up to a, you know, a 30 million market cap we're almost at right now.
So, um I I think along the way it's, you know, we've done a lot of games and with a lot of games you do get more cell pressure, but you know, the only way you get games is from having no cell pressure or lack of cell pressure. So, >> yep.
>> Um I I've been using the 90 95% >> pressure. Let's do it.
>> Self pressure. Um personally, >> that's more conservative. We we can come we can come back to it, you know, we don't have to >> leave it there.
>> What do you want to input for code buyback?
>> Um I put 50% there.
>> Agreed.
Volume scenario. We want to do just like a median.
>> Yeah. So guys, real quick, this data is actually been gathered through um a database that Shaka developed. He's actually tracking the liquidity to volume ratio. So these this section here is actually gathered from real data.
Yep. And by picking the median, it's just saying the average that we've been gathering. Um and it's just utilizing the average. So that's actually based on real data. You can pick the stronger end of it or the weaker end of it. Um but I've been just picking the median. Um I think that's the best way to go and it's actually off of real data.
>> Yeah. Yep. And again this is >> what we've found for just a quick description is our volume is actually directly correlated with our liquidity size. As our liquidity grows our volume grows and our liquidity can grow through ads. It can go through the the LP revaluing. It can go through our price of our token having buys. So there's a lot of different ways we increase our liquidity. But as we increase our liquidity, the volume increases as well.
And we actually know that ratio. So, we're factoring that ratio into this.
So, as our price moves up through buys, LP ads or liquid moves up from price moving up, LP ads moving up, or our paired tokens moving up, we're going to be increasing our volume as well, which increases the quantity of, you know, value we have to do buying buybacks every single day.
>> Yep.
>> So, we're going to use median. I I think that's the best number to use. I don't even play with that one, to be honest.
Okay, agreed. So, we have our baseline set and it's very conservative in my estimation and now we're down to the growth components, the 10-year trajectory. And this is LP. This one right here at the top, LP size over time factor only assumptions versus full model. Oh, I see. We got over here on the in the yellow light in the bright yellow LP full model with infl with flows. Is that inflows and then the LP factor only your assumption? What what's the difference here?
>> So the inflow is including like the user buy pressure on it and the code pushing the price up as well which that's the right number. The other one is only including the multiplier that we put on it. So the LP, that was that first box we filled out where we said, "Hey, we want to 10x it and then we think we're going to have 25% growth every single year."
>> So that's that that's only that one for that first line. And then the second line that's increasing more is also including the the buy pressure from the code and the buy pressure from user interaction because every time a user buys it increases liquidity and every time the code buys it increases the liquidity as well. Every time a dollar is injected in it actually increases the liquidity by $2. So um just buying up the chart of PTG if that's codebased or user based is a massive liquidity increase as well. Um the one thing this doesn't factor in which just makes it more conservative is the code adding LP and if we add any LP with the DAO itself. Oh >> we can we can also increase it that way but that number can fluctuate so much >> that I just didn't factor it in. I felt like it could be more modest because in the future like we might just go super heavily on buying burns. Like maybe we just say, "Hey, you know, we h we have this massive LP ad. Every time we do a buy and burn, we're adding if we do a $10,000 buying burn, we're increasing the LP by $20,000 automatically. It's not that big a deal for us to add LP to these certain spots unless we specifically want to increase a specific pool, right? But is if we just want liquidity increased in general, buy and burn through that just fine and we're making the product more scarce.
>> Yep. Okay.
>> All right. So, here we here we have it.
Year here we are right now with um the current liquidity $2.39 million. Year zero uh would be which should I be looking at again with flows or your assumption?
Uh I believe the width flows one is the one that's up higher, right?
>> Yes, that's correct.
>> Yeah. So that's the one that includes the buy pressure also, not just the X multiplier of our LP pools.
>> Okay.
Okay. All right. So that would be three $32.77 million in LP by the end of year at at the beginning of Z year year zero.
>> So that's the revaluation point. That's right when I considered the year zero is when I considered the PTDC machine legitimately turning on.
>> So >> and define that if you would.
>> So right now I feel like PTC as far as a machine goes is like in idle mode because our LP has been drastically dragged down because of the blockchain that we've been built on and because of the market. We're like at the bottom of the bare market. But when we revaluation, there's going to be a point and we've seen it before where PTGC starts generating a lot more revenue and it really starts to turn on and wake up.
It starts to run at higher levels. We've seen that before like for brief amounts of time when we were like close to our all-time high, we were generating a million dollars a day in volume instead of $50,000 a day where we're at right now. So that year zero mark is when that revaluation happens. We don't know exactly when that re revaluation point is going to happen. That could happen literally three months from now. It could happen a year from now. It could happen two years from now. But that's kind of like the point I'm specifically waiting for is that revaluation point where our whole entire community gets to see the machine wake up. And I almost was going to highlight this area as like accumulation zone. I feel like this is the important zone for the people who actually have spent the time to understand PTBC before it becomes so blatantly obvious what this thing can do. Because when we hit that year zero mark, I think there's going to be a tipping point there where how strong this system actually is is just so obvious that everyone wakes up to PTDC.
the people who actually understand it when it's doing the lower numbers because >> they can still see it just it's working with smaller numbers is the opportunity the accumulation zone for the real believers here and it's really where the PTGC community wants to onboard the strongholders. This is where we want to onboard people that have the same long-term vision and conviction as us, where prices are cheap and they're going to get a lot more tokens for a lot less money.
>> To me, that inflection point is a million dollars in volume every day on a well on average. You go if we go for a week with a million dollars in volume every day on average or even a month, that to me would be that inflection point that you're talking about.
So you can you can scroll down to the bottom. The bottom chart will show you what the 24hour volume roughly would be at at at that point. And that point is created by what we plugged in above. If you think that point is higher, um you would need to put that that initial X multiplier higher or the user base higher that's coming in.
>> Okay. with our settings. Um, our weekly volume would be about $7 million by year two after the revaluation.
So that would be so if let's say for example Pulse Chain revalued right now, year two would be two years from now.
Correct?
>> Yes. Yes.
>> Okay, cool.
All right, so let's go back up.
And let's let's talk about this this very this top chart here because at that point you're at 89 Oh, I see. 80 89.94 million. That's LP.
>> Yeah. So what what the settings we have right now in that revaluation point um that ground zero level that's how much LP our community would have. It's doing the math of the LP increasing due to the X multiplier and from the buy pressure.
It knows this formula and it's saying, "Hey, this is how much LP." This doesn't even include our LP ads. That's the crazy part. This is everything that we have already just revaluing from that buy pressure and that that X multiplier effect.
>> That's about a 40x in LP. And if you if you take and go into uh Shaka's calculators, you can estimate what um what volume would be at 40x LP and how much your rewards would be on your bag size. And you guys can do all this at PT.
>> Also doesn't even include UFOs LP. Like I didn't even build this for UFO, but UFOs LP would probably be something similar to that, too.
>> Yeah. Yep. True. So, let's go look at year five, $374 million in LP.
Year 10, $3.65 billion. So, the inflection point for the um for a billion would be about year 7, 938 million in LP by the end of year seven.
And that's with, and this is like the important thing, that's with how much cell pressure did we put in there?
>> Let me scroll up. Let me let me make sure we're on track here. Uh, cell pressure 90%.
>> That's with 90% cell pressure um from the human interaction.
>> Yeah.
Wow. So that's that's us saying pretty much every user that we bring in to that point 90% of them are selling >> PTGC remember in the original white paper it was going to change the entire landscape of world finances.
It could happen dude.
But yeah, so if you go to other ones, you can also go to like the price, the market cap and stuff like that. You know, if you're someone who has like a price target in mind, you can see like what year due to the numbers that we plugged in above, what year you would be hitting certain price targets. Um, and then you can even adjust the numbers if you are trying to hit it earlier and stuff like that. So like you can if you want a 10-centent PTGc if 10-centent PTC is your goal and you say hey like this is where I'm going to take some profits or you know what whatever your independent goal is. Um you can see how that's possible in what time frames you know you can increase them by bringing in more users by getting a bigger revaluation period from the start. you can, you know, increase the amount each user brings in or the the increase that we have on the user. For example, like instead of increasing by 25% yearly, it could increase by 50%. You can toggle all those around.
So, when does this say that we're going to get to a 10-cent PC? Okay, I'll scroll down and and and get to that in a second. But Living the Dream says he wants us to project rewards on a dolphin position with this 10 10-year um scenario. So, I'll jot that down. I'll jot down the LP and when we're done with all this, we can go to ptdc-ufo.com and get an estimate on that.
So, let me let me just jot this LP down.
That would be 3.65 billion in LP.
Okay.
All right. Now, you wanted to know what the PTGC price would be.
Do you want to come back? Let's let's go look at that. But then um you want we then we have two other charts to look at.
Yeah, we can we can look at the charts in order.
>> Oh, okay. Well, let's just knock this one out since you brought it up. Year zero um price of PTDC would be point um let's see.17 pennies two7 end of year 1 310 410 of a penny. Let's go to year five would be 7.6 6 year 10, $2.38 year 10. And at year seven where you got that um where we break over into the billions in LP, 31.
Okay, now let's go back up to the user adoption. New per year. Let's see. New year. New users per year is in the green and then then cumulative users is in yellow. So let me see if I can zoom in on this a little bit. Okay, so at year one and we had 5,000 new holders every I think we set it to 5,000 every year with um an increase of 1.25x.
So at the end of year 1 after the revaluation new users 6.3,000 cumulative new users would be 11.3.
Let's just talk about new users. End of year 2 78 7.8 end of year five,000.
End of year 10 47,000.
Modest.
Modest.
>> Yeah, guys, that that's extremely modest numbers. Like we in this experiment, we're not even factoring in like like Charles, do your own research was saying like a huge adoption phase. Like we might have in a bull market a year of like a massive increase of holders or value or price. This doesn't even factor any of that in, right? like we kind of have that factored in maybe at the beginning of like that X multiplier to the LP like that revaluation phase but if you want you could shove a little bit there but this isn't even factoring in like if PCH like got any bit of like massive adoption like a lot of people do believe it's possible if you actually think that's possible start increasing the holder count because picking up 5,000 new holders a year is we're we're doing it at the bottom of the blockchain is just the honest truth with no new users really on this chain whatsoever.
Imagine an inflow of new people coming in here. Like we could easily be picking up 15,000 15,000 new users a year.
>> Yeah, we could. Well, the guys in the chat are very impressed with the results so far.
Um, annual buy pressure. That's the next chart. Annual buy pressure, organic versus code buyback. Organic net buy is in the yellow and code buyback is in the blue. Now, something's missing in this chart, Zen.
That really impressed me when I was playing around with this calculator. If you guys want to hang around, we'll do some more bullish um scenarios, but you're going to see I didn't I don't think I even told you about this, man. There there comes an inflection point where literally the code starts buying more than users, right? I mean, >> yeah. Well, I I think even at where it's at right now, it should have that.
>> It doesn't. It doesn't. This is so conservative.
The uh code buyback.
>> I know. I wish I could screen.
>> Yeah, it deviates.
It deviates going up up up and to the right, but it's not going to cross.
>> So the code buyback is lower than the human buyback right now.
>> No code buyback.
>> Code buyback should be higher. the code buyback that that was like the important thing of this chart is a lot of people don't realize this but >> the code buyback as we get this revaluation phase with the amount of users we have plugged in right now is massive in the future compared to the user increase like especially when you start hitting like you know year five and stuff like that. That was the important thing for for me that I was trying to figure out is like how much does this machine rely on us onboarding constantly and the community continuing to grow naturally and how much is it relying on just what's already built.
And what I found is, you know, as we just increase our community modestly every single year, the code itself actually does the majority of the work for us.
>> Yep. It's it's the machine. You can see that when you click from log and linear um you can actually see how after year five everything starts like extremely ramping up because it hits like this tipping point as far as like for the early people getting positioned now.
>> Yes. I like what Thanos has to say on YouTube. He says, "Pe the PTGC affiliate program for last month, April, was 375 million PTGC, and we were only in week two of May, and it's already had 349 million PTGc." I hadn't even noticed that. I haven't haven't even looked at the affiliate um results at all this month yet.
Yeah, April was definitely a dry month compared to like the other two months we've been live. Um, and I think that's just where Pulse Chain was, right? like you know it was bogged down and going down and it's been pretty pull's been pretty flat all of 2026 but you know PTDC as far as against Pchain has been creating an uptrend and I think we just need a little bit of a cool off month and you know I feel pretty confident about this level we're at right now and it looks like we're holding it up pretty strongly even with pulse chain just remaining flat.
So, I put the chart on linear and you do see that code buyback just it's a it's a hockey stick compared to organic net buys.
Very impressive.
>> And you can increase and you can increase the organic net buys, right?
>> Yeah.
>> Um but the cool thing about as you increase the organic net buys, it increases the code buyback because you're increasing the liquidity of the system. And that's what's really firing the flywheel of this system. And that's why I keep going back to that that revaluation point is an important point for the grave ecosystem. Um right now you don't see that happening because the numbers are kind of bogged down. So it takes more time to get those massive increases. But if we get that revaluation period, it's going to massively increase the the speed at which we're hitting these these points of massive increases because at that point it's just math. So we just have to get it to the math period with the blockchain we're being built on being relatively successful and onboarding a consistent amount of new users into the community. Right? Keeping an ongoing growing ecosystem is important, right?
Like I I like that we are very undependent on human interaction, but it's important to keep the community growing in size. And I think in cryptocurrency, there isn't a lot of products worth bringing people into, right? Most of them just are 99.9% of projects are not worth anyone's time.
They're going to die in a few weeks. But there is a few I think that have the ability to actually become the next opportunities like Bitcoin and Ethereum.
And I think this is what I'm trying to illustrate there is people were not able to do $1 to $100,000 in Bitcoin if they weren't willing to hold for 10 years.
And really what this is showcasing is like guys like we have potential to do the same thing that people in Bitcoin and Ethereum did, you know, 12, 15, 10 years ago. We have that opportunity now.
But you have to hodddle your bag.
>> If you don't huddle your bag, you're never going to get to these levels. And after a certain point, there's a tipping point where the machine almost does the work for you.
>> Yeah.
>> You just have to huddle.
>> Yep. We're going to get to the point where setting a million PTGc aside or thereabouts, maybe more, maybe less for an error is going to be a meaningful a meaningful thing.
>> Well, I set my you can create locks, you know, you and this doesn't need to be your whole bag. That's not what I'm saying. You know, don't lock up your whole bag 10 years and you know, you are going to be receiving APY the whole time. So, it's not like you're not going to have access to capital, but you know, create a locking ladder. There's ways to do this in a way that keeps you protected, but also lets you in code tell yourself, I'm willing to see this thing through to these 10-year markers.
Because as you could see, like with just math and with moderate success of the blockchain that we're on and our community just doing what we've been doing, we hit the numbers that people at one point said.
>> Yep.
>> Yeah.
>> Yep. I'm telling you, man. Yeah. I I remain very excited about this ecosystem, man. It's not going to be your heart cycle either, >> right? We don't even need like that massive fullr run scenario. We just need time and moderate community efforts and moderate success of the blockchain we're on.
>> Yeah. Okay. So, we're down at the price trajectory at the end of 10 years. $2.38 organic only would be no code 5 cents from here. And even even 5 cents is pretty silly in a lot of people's minds.
Uh shall we go do some more bullish scenarios?
Yeah, if anyone has any numbers you want to plug in, you know, feel free to let us know. If there's a section you think is going to increase, like um dollar amounts injected in um if you think the revaluation point of chain is going to be bigger. Um I think that's a one that could very easily be bigger than a 10x personally. Um, but you'll actually see even increasing that position by let's say double, like you can turn it to a 20x or 25x and it pretty much like doubles the numbers at the bottom. But where the real growth is made is with the time and that's what's really important. It's the consistent effort of the code and the consistent effort of the community. you still hit some crazy numbers even without massive price appreciation of the blockchain. It's just, you know, it's just the time thing. It's just staying consistent.
Luckily, the code's the most consistent thing out there. It's going to do what it does every single day, no matter what. And then for us as a community, it's just about just onboarding who we can one at a time. Um, and and growing our ecosystem with one step forward every single day.
>> Yeah.
All right, let's plug in some new numbers.
>> Okay, let's let's just go like one step above in every single category. So, >> that's a lot.
>> 25x, >> okay, >> on the X multiplier. Let's say the blockchain does a 50% increase every year, not 25%.
Um, let's do I think pulse Um, PCX said he thinks $10,000 could be the average user in the future or >> Yeah, >> it it can come out multiple ways.
Really, what we're calculating here is a net positive injection and we're just showing it in like it coming from users, right?
>> Right. So the net positive injection could come from smaller amounts of users injecting more money or more amounts of users injecting less money and then we're then taking away 90% of it, right?
To create that net positive injection.
So, um, you can really just and maybe I need to create a little box that shows what that net positive injection actually is because that's all you're really creating is, hey, yearly we think there's going to be a net positive injection of this.
>> Yep.
Okay. So, I put uh how many how many new users per year do you want to do? You want to do just double it to 10,000?
Let's let's just increase the um >> oh the input dollars input >> not let's increase the dollars input to 10k and then let's increase the multiplier of users because I actually think this is an important one >> because as our community grows we're going to have more people onboarding >> and as more people onboard more people on board right and um >> so I think that's where we'll get a lot of growth is you That's how some of these large projects has gotten so many users is, you know, 5,000 people turns to 10,000 people. 10,000 people turns into 20,000 people. 20,000 people turns into 40,000 people. And um so I Let's bump that one up.
>> I did. Okay. I bumped it up to 1.5x.
>> Awesome. Yeah, that's cool.
>> That's going to be a lot. It's going to be a lot. But at the end of 10 years, that's a buck a ton. All right. uh pressure settings.
>> I'd say keep sell pressure the same. I exactly I I always feel like sell pressure is going to be there. Yeah. We all have to know >> I I want people in our ecosystem to have the opportunity to take profits that change their famil family's lives. I also want people to believe in this system long term and have conviction and and hodddle, you know. But there there is a place where you can change your family's life and support and believe in a system long term. Right? That's how I look at people in Bitcoin and Ethereum.
There's people in Bitcoin and Ethereum who are Bitcoin maxis, Ethereum maxis, and they've changed their family's life with their early investment, but that doesn't mean they're not huddling a ton of Bitcoin and Ethereum still and believe in that product long term to be one of the best store values appreciating assets in the world. And um I I think we we can be in that same category with PTD. We can be in a place where people in our community can be changing their famil family's lives IRL and still have complete conviction and >> and believe in this product long term and actually see portions of their portfolio be out 10 years. And that's why we do have that locking ladder created within the system to where you can create that plan right when you get into the protocol or after you've educated yourself properly on the protocol.
>> Yep. Okay. Salt pressure 90% code buyback. You want to keep it at just 50 50%.
>> Yeah, keep it at 50.
>> Okay. Do you I I almost want to go to a median volume scenario just to add a little bit of uh juice.
>> Oh, what were we on right now? We were on Oh, wait a second. Oh, I was on We were on median. Do you want to go strong?
>> I I I don't mess with that one because I actually think the median is literally the average of what we >> There you go. Exactly. Yeah.
>> I don't think we need to increase that.
>> Yep. Agreed. I haven't even adjusted that myself. I think >> we can, but I don't I think that's legitimately the right number to go off of. Yeah, that would that that volume scenario would be more appropriate for a shortterm experiment because we do see that LV ratio increase.
>> Yeah, like in a bull market you you could like the in a year like euphoria phase of a bull market that's going to probably be near the strong side, but we have to remember we're projecting this thing out 10 years. So, you're going to have in that 10 years multiple cycles.
You know, we're going to have the times that we're in right now where it's kind of slow and boggy, but then you're also going to have the times that we were a year and a half ago where it was rocking and we're picking up 40 users a day, you know?
>> Yes.
All right. Um Oh, you know, you know what happened? I think the I'm I'm getting ahead of us in the organic versus code buyback annual buy pressure annual buy pressure chart.
I think the chart actually changed. I think there were some changes made to it because I I distinctly remember this one and seeing like a crossover where there was an inflection point. It just made me very excited. But you can see it actually maybe if I change it to um log. Nope. Still the same. But either way, you can see that um the code buyback increases more than organic growth. But anyhow, I'm getting ahead of us.
Yeah, you can create you can create more organic growth with increasing the holder count or money count or the increase of holders yearly, right? So that's up to you to kind of change that.
>> Yep. Okay. So growth components and this is with all the settings we just set. A little more bullish scenario 10year trajectory. I'm going to write these some of these down because we'll bring this over to uh ptdc-ufo.com and and put in some scenarios for a dolphin position and see what it uh you know what a dolphin could earn. So, at the end of year one, the full model uh LP would be $172.7 million.
And then >> say that again.
>> The LP would be 172.7 million at the end of year one.
>> Oh, year one. Okay. Yeah.
>> And then at the end of year 10, 62.45 billion.
>> Wow.
>> That's not including any LP ads or code LP ads. just growth from everything we have right now.
>> That's that's not even code LP ads.
>> No, that's just the buy pressure doing the LP ads because every time someone buys the ads to LP and then that's the revaluation of the LP that we currently have.
>> Okay. Okay. And you you explained that several minutes ago, but it went over my head. And yo, this is so >> that by just adding LP with the Dow or where the code also adds to LP as well.
>> Okay. I mean 62 how many because I know that what happens? Let's see. 62.45 45 billion divided by our LP right now which is 2 million. That's is that not over like a thousandx.
>> That's what I'm I'm saying is that time that the numbers become absolutely insane. And you ask yourself how did Bitcoin and Ethereum get from A to B?
It's time, right? It's time. It's sustainability. It's conviction of community. it's utility, you know, all the things that we have.
We just need time now. We need time and we need to stay on course and keep working in the direction we know this product is going to go. And with those two things, like these these are the potential of this ecosystem.
And that's not with any crazy numbers plugged in. As you can see above, it's using utilizing numbers I think a lot of people would consider very modest.
>> Yep.
All right. So, give me a second. I'm doing a quick calculation.
62.5 billion divided by our current LP, which is like 2.2 million is Oh, dude, that's 28,386x.
You know what Shaka needs to do? We'll just skip right on past that. I about my my knees about gave out. Um, we know what Shaka needs to do is about is um put in a number of X's for this when he builds it into his site because >> I can I can add whatever. That's why, you know, not live or anything yet. So, >> okay, cool. so I can get it ready for him >> cuz if we can see a number of X's, then we can take that straight over to the uh whatever that calculator is, the other calculator, and put in the uh X's for LP, which we'll do here in just a minute.
Okay, so scrolling on down and and again, this is this is a little more bullish scenario, but not like super pie in the sky. user adoption. New users coming in at the end of year one would be uh 7 oh 7.5,000.
End of year five 38,000.
Year 10 238,000.
Now we're talking. And the cumulative at the end of year 10 would be 855,000 users. And that's because we set the the user increase to 1.25x. 25x every year and the annual >> I think we bumped it to 1.5% every year.
>> Okay.
Annual buy pressure organic versus code buyback at the end of year one organic is 7.5 but the code is 2x in that 15.5 almost 2x. No it is 2x actually.
At the end of year five, people organic net buys is $38 million, but the code is buying $243 million. You see how this deviates, man?
I'm going to put this on linear because it's more impressive looking that way.
Let's just look at this in its full glory. Look at that hockey stick of the code buyback year 10. And real quick, just to reme remind everyone why that's so important is the code is never going to sell, right? As we that code is buying and burning um or you know buying and LPing or so because we have that at 50% that doesn't even include the buy pressure technically that goes to APY to users which they can sell. It's it's something that I think is going to drive a lot of sustainability to this ecosystem long term that I think is going to help us really outshine the majority of everything that's out there because as we grow the increased buy pressure of our system grows because of code not only human interaction where most things kind of have an S-curve because when they get to higher points um energy could kind of draw down But when we're at higher points, our energy is going to be somewhat increased by the code standpoint. Um, which I think is going to cause a reaction that no one's really really seen in cryptocurrency to date, you know, because you you don't really see that with Bitcoin because Bitcoin isn't value generation. It's still inflationary to an extent. Um, and same with Ethereum.
And not saying that those are bad products, but I I do believe PTGC has been specifically designed to increase the things that people are looking for as far as a store of value product. Um, you know, blockchains have a lot more features they have to kind of look after where PPC kind of only needs to look after itself, but it's only looking after um the things that matter, which is scarcity, APY within the system, and the price of the actual token. Um, and we're working on making that price less volatile and more sustainable as time goes on. um with everything that we're kind of listing above with the continuous buy and burns and continuous LP ads and you know hopefully some success of the blockchain that we're built on as well and you know just natural community onboarding and us showing people that this might be another opportunity at the games that people had with Bitcoin and Ethereum 10 plus years ago. But you have to hddle, right? If you got into Bitcoin year one or Ethereum year two, three, but you didn't hodddle, you only hodddled for a year, you didn't get to ride Bitcoin up to $100,000, you only got a few X's. And you can be an ETC for a few X's. I'm not against that. Every user is a user.
That's why we have that 90% sell pressure on. But I I do think it's important to educate people on that locking ladder with a portion of their bagger. You don't even have to do it in code. just just hodddle a moon bag and let this thing actually become what it's meant to be five ten years from now because right now we're showcasing with all the math and how these V2 AMMs work, how liquidity grows, how if our community just does what we've done, we hit the numbers that people believe are impossible.
>> Yep.
Well, I I learned a lesson from the Titanic.
And never say never, you know. All right. And now, let's see. Let's scroll down and look at and look at the other uh charts down here. I think just the last one. 10-year price trajectory at the end of year one.
P2DC would be 1.3 cents.
Year 2 3 1/2 cents.
Year three 9 cents. Year 4 23 cents.
Year five6.
Year six a buck 38.
Let's just go on out to year 10. $45.
Yeah. I mean, you're at you're at eight bucks by year eight, which goes by in a blink.
All right, man.
Do you want to do a more bullish scenario? I mean, I don't know that you can get more uh more exciting than we've already looked at.
>> Yeah. You know, I think I think that's the point, right? is with just modest things, the numbers hit numbers that are just so bullish. Um, and once we're at those numbers, you have to also look at the LP that we have because it's not only about being at that number, but having enough LP to back those numbers is so important. Um, you know, look look at the market cap to LP ratios at those levels. They're actually not bad.
They're better than pretty much everything that's out there. Um, and then the value generation at that point, like you can see the volume on a daily basis at year 10, and we could run over to the value generation calculators and show users how much we'd actually be what's the 24hour volume at year 10.
>> Uh, let's see.
>> It's on that bottom chart. You have to just kind of go over to the right.
>> Okay. Bottom chart over to the right on the 10-year price trajectory. Yeah.
>> Volume.
I don't see volume.
Um I think you're talking about Oh, the yearby-year breakdown.
>> Yeah. All All the way at the bottom the bottom like >> chart. Yeah.
>> Yeah, man. Year 10 volume your weekly.
Okay. Daily daily daily volume is $670 million >> daily.
>> Wow.
>> You said 670 >> million per day. 4.7 billion a week.
>> So times 05 that'd be this PTGC system would be generating $33 million a day in revenue.
with no overhead. I'm >> with no overhead.
>> I'm just gonna throw that in for Mando.
>> Again, year 10 isn't the stop. You know what I mean? Like that means at that point >> if 50% of that going back into the token, that'd be $15 million daily going back into the token. Daily.
>> Yeah, that's right. With this, you don't even need to go to that other calculator to get your your volumes.
>> Yeah, you can just bring those volumes over and you can create you can look at like so if you want you can take that that volume amount over to the APY calculator because someone was asking how much a dolphin would be earning.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
And maybe that we can say >> let's do it.
>> If you guys want us to plug in any specific numbers into the calculator, um if any of those sessions you want something else plugged in, um more than happy to plug something else in. But >> yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna get that calculator pulled up on my >> I'm just for me I'm really excited about this calculator because I tried to build it like a year and a half ago just with Excel and I was struggling on a few of the formulas and um now I finally got it figured out with the help of AI and um I just it for me it kind of shows me in code you're just using math and relative, you know, adoption and relative success of the blockchain. Obviously, with the design of PCDC, it, you know, I'm the first to raise my hand and just say I didn't think Pulsechain was coming to this level. Um, I always thought there was going to be a consistent growth of Pulsechain. Obviously, I thought there was going to be a dip, but a dip of this low, um, didn't expect. And then also, I I thought we were going to be starting an uptrend at this point, you know, three years in. So, I I do think those things are are coming. I think they're upon us. And anyone who is here on Pulsechain who takes action on prices like this with PTGC and actually is willing to hold on to products long term, I think is massively going to be rewarded. Um, you know, I think most people won't. I don't think most people will buy this dip with a significant amount. I don't think most people will hold their bag for 10 years. But the people who do um even just a portion of their bag, I I think they're going to possibly be exposed to something revolutionary. Like if you were able to hold on to a dolphin position for that long, banana's going to pull up what you could be generating yearly off of that dolphin position. You technically never even need to sell the dolphin position because it will continue to grow and continue to grow and continue to grow.
You don't ever need to touch it because the APY that you're receiving is probably nice enough to to solve most of your problems forever.
>> Yeah, money problems. Let's do it. money problems.
>> Let's go.
>> Usually freedom problems, right?
>> Yeah. Money does solve a lot of problems, dude.
>> I just, you know, I I look at what PChain could be built for. I hope what it's built for is, you know, a completely decentralized financial system. And on a completely decentral financial system, I think PTDC is meant to live. Something that's renounced code, trustless APY, scarcity every single day, less supply, more tokens in your wallet, burnt liquidity, um, with a heavy focus moving forward on not only building the LP with speculative plays, but also a heavy focus on the legacy cryptocurrencies like Ethereum, etc. like what this could become is far different than what it is today and there's still only 3.5% of supply on the market right now.
Like it's it's a situation where obviously things can fail, pull chain can fail, PTGC can fail, but it's in my opinion worth putting a bet on this ecosystem.
Yep. Okay. So, we're in the we are in ptgc-UFO.com rewards calculator. There's a Dolphin position sitting in here holding and staking.
Enter the daily volume amount. Well, if you went for now that one year conservative, was it 50? I wrote down 54.
Oh, that was the LP.
I'm sorry. I gotta go back. I was going to go back and um and and and back out the LP.
>> Well, on that bottom chart, it will give you the volume for every single year, daily volume. So, if there's a certain year you wanted to type in the volume, it'll tell you that. Let's just >> let's just do that bullish scenario, the one we just um finished because I've got >> Yeah, let's just go to the big one.
Let's let's let's start with the big one this time because that'll be uh Oh, I can go right back there. Hold on, guys.
>> It was 670 million >> per day.
>> Per day. Yeah. Daily volume.
>> Okay.
670.
You guys are not going to believe what this what rewards on a dolphin position are going to be at $670 million per day.
Okay. And this we'll do an annual because I like annual.
Uh let's see.
Scroll down. The yearly total reward $580,69 9 $9 9,747% APY holder rewards $245,188 staker rewards 335,420 47.7 grand every month.
Okay, that's that's the big dog. That's going big.
>> Yeah, that that's that's if this this whole scenario plays out and you huddle a dolphin position for 10 years from the revaluation point, year zero as I call it.
So that's, you know, that's someone who's got a long-term investment mindset at least with a portion of their portfolio.
>> Yeah. If if you don't want to huddle that long but want to be exposed to it, you know, I I would suggest maybe getting a few different bags for a few different kinds of time frames. That's where that locking ladder comes into play.
>> Yep.
All right. You want to do a little more conservative daily volume scenario?
>> Well, just just go back some of the years, right? Like let's see what what would it be on year five.
Okay, let me go into that calculator.
And it's still set to the previous setting. So, >> well, no, you still want it on the previous setting. If you go down to that bottom chart, it will tell you what your daily volume would be every single year.
>> Yep.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Down to the chart. Um, year five, daily volume 26.67.
We're going to take this over here.
26.767.
And I will share the screen.
26.67.
>> That 26 million.
>> Let me double check >> daily volume.
>> Let Yeah, let me make sure.
>> I think that sounds like relatively right. I just don't know if you're looking at the wrong section because it should say it in dollar amount. Yes, it >> it's daily volume year five 26.67 million.
>> Okay.
>> Yep. 26.67.
Okay. Um we got to go back to this other c.
Yeah. Okay. So I got 20 I got that number 26.67 67 million in a day daily volume yearly dolphin bag yearly total reward $23,111 two grand a month you know a house payment reflections $9,700 stake and rewards 13.3,000 yeah that's good juice man 26 million And obviously if you have triple the dolphin bag, it's like 70 grand a year if you had for three >> dolphins. It's about hodddling it, right? It's it's not really about the size bag you have. It's about being able to huddle a portion of that bag to some of these higher time frames because what we're finding is, you know, what we find is most people will not probably be able to huddle to those extent extended time periods. If pull chain's relatively successful, we just keep doing what we've been doing. Um the gains will probably be enough, you know, and people will just take profits. But if you're someone for one, you know, with consistent growth with sustainability, every year you hold on your your net value that you own in PDC becomes that much more, right? Um so if you hold on another year, you you're like times four in your bag, times three in your bag.
And that's kind of what's important is if you hold on just one more year, you can take your previous year's whole entire bag amount with just only selling 25% of your position. and stuff like that. Um, if these scenarios play out as we think mathematically they could, you know, due to this this calculator. So, um, you know, it's an interesting situation like a user could very easily, let's say they're sitting on a million bucks on year three or year four and they could say, you know what, I'm just going to take the million bucks. This is kind of what I wanted to get out of crypto. I put this amount in. I'm happy with that. Um, or they could say, "You know what? I'm going to wait one more year and then I only have to sell 25% of my position to get that million bucks and then I still have 75% of my position to DCA out through the next few years.
Or maybe you actually keep that position to just earn the APY off of in the future as well. Um, you know, you look at people that were in early Bitcoin and Ethereum who still hold their positions.
They're actually in the best store of value. They're actually in one of the best appreciation assets still, maybe in not last couple years, especially Ethereum, but overall they're still holding something great. And if P2DC can prove to have more consistent price appreciation over pretty much every store of value asset that exists plus what was it 50 billion or something in liquidity that's majority burnt for the ecosystem. Um, you know, I I just feel like there will be very large amounts of value flowing into this ecosystem at this point at that point to to store value here. And there's going to be people who are lucky enough to buy it at a 30 million market cap token price before anyone knows about it.
>> And we're not even >> we're not even including the the Dow in this what the Dow can do and and the and the machine itself.
Well, we we are including it. We're not including the LP ads from the machine, but we're including the buy pressure from the machine, >> right?
Okay. So, we're going to do a uh I I set the the settings back to our previous scenario and let's go down and see what the volume would be, which was more. If you want to see this calculator, you can go to Banana's YouTube and see it on his screen instead of just hear us say the numbers.
>> So, the daily volume at the end of year five would be 4.6 to $4.6 million.
So, give me a sec.
>> Daily.
>> Yeah. $4.6 million daily. All right.
Now, I gota Oh, no. My computer does this funky thing. It worked for me.
All right, now I'm going to pull my screen back up and I already input it.
$4.6 million daily volume yearly. And this is always a dolphin position. It just makes it simple.
Rewards $4,000.
4,000 bucks. 67% APY. Dolphin position right now is under $3,000.
This is the conservative scenario. You turned $3,000 into $4,000 and that's not even that's just the APY.
That's not including the bag.
>> Yeah, that's just yearly APY. That's not the price appreciation or anything.
>> There is.
>> But yeah, you know, I think that's why I spent the time to kind of build this calculator. I tried to build it a year and a half ago because I I think it's important to kind of recognize, you know, as time goes on after we get through the tough times on PC chain, which, you know, most of us never saw coming. I for sure did not see Pulsechain being 10x pretty much more than 10x sacrifice price. Um, but we're here and what it's creating is opportunities to build bags in the products that you like if you have the ability to or even if you want to at least try to hddle these lows and as we come out of these we've been able to study the ma math behind PTC very very deeply and with the math with the protocols automatic systems alongside a relatively successful blockchain obviously we're not even using any crazy amounts we're just saying hey we think we could get a reval valuation of PulseChain going back to four Z roughly which is like and our community onboarding at the same rate they've been onboarding for the last year. We hit numbers that seem unimaginable to people and um it just takes time. It takes time. It's it just it takes being consistent. It takes not giving up. Um, it takes not flopping to a new project every single week like do you see most people in cryptocurrency on their timeline, they're in a new project every single week. Um, the people who've made gains in Bitcoin and Ethereum and anything, they did not make those gains in a week.
It took years to make those gains. And I'm just kind of saying, hey, PTC mathematically and the foundation it's created has the potential to be the next big player like that. Um, I actually think it could give the largest of cryptocurrencies a run for their money once we get to lines. Um, but we have to get it there. We have to stay convicted.
We have to keep pushing. Um, obviously I'm, you know, no expectations of me, but I am going to keep telling people what I believe in. I'm going to keep building tools to show people what I know is possible out of PTDC with the foundation and the code we have in front of us. Um, all we really need left is a moderately successful pulse chain and the community to just, you know, telling buddies and stuff about it and everyone in PTG are probably going to change their lives.
>> Yep. and and the lives of their family, friends, and even perhaps acquaintances.
Like I said, man, get get you a bag of PTGc with other people in mind, too.
Man, if you got millions of this stuff laying around, imagine, you know, you you encounter people throughout life.
Imagine being able to gift somebody some PTGC just cuz you got a nice position.
Well, you got to get that position. You either have to have it now or you gotta get it now to be able to do that to be a blessing to other people. Well, I I do >> a small amount of PDGC like, you know, I don't we could look at how much a million tokens cost right now.
>> 100 bucks.
>> 100 bucks, >> dude.
>> Yeah.
>> Who can't get their hands on >> a million tokens if if they hodddle it for, you know, in this example you have for which is the moderate example.
>> We're going big here in a second.
What year do we hit a dollar?
>> Uh, give me a second. Give me Give me a second. Is 10x. Okay, I'm going to scroll down. I'm liking this bottom one.
Uh, that would be >> Yeah, the bottom >> call year eight. Year eight.
>> Pretty much all the charts above style format.
>> Some people like the Excel style format.
Some people like the seeing the charts, but I like that bottom chart, too. you can just get the information real quick.
>> Yeah. Yeah, it's cool. I I do have a hard stop at the bottom of the hour, >> just so you know.
>> Yeah, I'm ready to go. So, yeah, just tell me real quick what the dollar number is where we hit a dollar.
>> Eight years. And then real quick, let's do uh for Charles 100x in the multiplier with everything set just the way we had it. Oh, we hit it.
>> Yeah, I I I actually think that's very easily possible in this coming bull marketation 100x. That's >> only 7x or 8x um probably more like seven. It could be even less because this is a combination of all our LPS. Um you know, PEX could do a little bit more, whatever. Um you know, that's not much higher than sacrifice price. We're so low right now of these numbers.
Okay. 100x um LP multiplier.
That puts our price at a dollar by a year six. And daily volume would be 48.75 million.
>> Yeah. And where does that put us at year 10 real quick? Sure. those last few years and that's that's the big part is this is the example of Bitcoin today. If you bought Bitcoin at 60,000 to 100 when it goes to 120,000 that's only a 2x 60,000 but it's hundreds of X's for the people who bought at dollars, >> right?
>> So the same thing that same situation if we can become those next large multicycle store value system, you're making hundreds of X's when people who are buying eight years from now are just making two X's.
>> Yeah. And that's just the opportunity that's in front of us. And that's why you have to have conviction with something. And you have to have belief in something long-term, not hop ship every other week to something new and something that you >> I I personally believe it's it's about at this point with cryptocurrency. It's about making a home in specific products and working towards that home, working towards that community. It's not about just dancing to everyone for one seeing every 2x that you can make or a loss here or there. That's not how real gains are going to be made.
>> Yeah, >> you can get lucky. You can get lucky for sure or you can find that right one where you do a quick 100x on, but >> for the average person, I I truly believe the real goal is to just get behind as a community in some specific products and just slowly build those products up, especially when the math is on your side. And that's what this system is really showing. And this even this tool I'm showing is really showing is it's the code buyback. The code buyback does so much of the work for you.
>> Yes.
>> Without the code buyback, you're not getting as much of these X's. The code buyback does a lot of the work.
So at with 100x in LP um you're at 13 bucks by year 10 >> and the buy setting like like this is the funny thing about like if we got 100x on on pulse chain as far as like being the revaluation point and then we had a little bit of consistent growth it'd be so easy to onboard what do we have 5,000 users a year.
>> Yeah. like literally could we could be onboarding 5,000 users a month if if Pulsechain was at those levels.
>> Yeah, >> there would be a wave of users and capital in the Pulse chain. It would be insane. So like if you up that one, you also kind of have to start upping all the other ones as well.
>> True.
>> To only be fair because if got to that level, the inflow of value and users would be insane. You know, I guess besides if that exes were just from Richard, you know, I guess then maybe not. But again, if if Richard even just does that, the math will do the rest of the work for you because we generate revenue off of that revaluation.
>> Yeah, it's not difficult to see that PTGC is going to be a dollar here in the next several years.
Yeah, it's pretty pretty clear.
>> Staying consistent, right? That's that's the big thing is staying consistent, showing up, um doing what you know works, right? This is a lot of things that I think, you know, and it could have been done on purpose. I I think, you know, if and I mean this in no disrespect to Hex, I think what was going on during Hex's hype cycle was everything that worked. Richard be going live on streams and educating the community, not, you know, jumping to different token after different token after different token. like having belief in that one community and that one goal um it goes a long way and the the buildup of it can really do some serious numbers and I I think Hex is coming back that's why we have so much um LP with it etc. But I I know what works. We know what works. We know to show up banana like I I believe you'll be showing up. I know I I'll be showing up.
>> We don't need to reinvent the wheel here. We knew how to do hundreds of X's last cycle. We did it on a chain that did zero X's. So I I just, you know, keep putting one foot in front of the other. Yes, I would love to get to the destination next week.
That's the $1 PTC number. Six years from now, I won't complain. I just got to keep putting the foot in front of the other and eventually this community can get to those destinations and then we're on to the next destination because by that point there's going to be a whole new group of users all with new goals to get the system to the next level and with the code being on its side in the foundation I don't see reasons why we can't keep going to the next level and next level to next levels. Yeah, man. 16 people on spaces this morning, 27 on YouTube, less than 50 people got to see all that. Guys, if you got a buddy in >> No, no one knows it exists. That That's the honest truth. No one really even knows [ __ ] exists, let alone a product like this. And all we're trying all I'm trying to do, all Banana's trying to do is say like, "Hey, we're seeing the signs of this being the next big thing." There probably is going to be other big things, but sadly it's super hard to find them. like it's the needle in the couldn't find them. Um, but if you stumbled across this space, like dude, you have one that's potential sitting right in front of your face and does not take much >> to get a decent sized bag at these prices.
>> Yeah, this is the next ship, man. I mean, maybe it's not. It's going to be it's in in its own category, but this this has shiplike potential. And if if you guys got buddies in the Grace Currencies, send them this stream so they can watch it because this this was a banger. And dude, when we get this up onto uh ptgc-ufo.com Shaka site, we're going to have to do this again, you know. So we we'll just and I'll record a video and everybody can pass it around. But let's let's redo this when there are more people on this space because this was I don't know. I was it like one of the best calculators I've seen.
Yeah, this is one I I was trying to work on a year ago to really showcase that rising price floor and how lucky I think we all are to have this trustless machine working in behind the scenes for us every single day. making steps in the right direction, build building up our foundation, doing putting the value everywhere that matters, paying people to hodddle, buying and burning the tokens and adding more LP to just create that flywheel effect. Right now, the whole system's bogged down because LPS are bogged down because Pulsechain's down. But if you believe in Pulse chain is going to be at least a somewhat relative or somewhat successful blockchain. Not successful like you need this 100x or a thousandx from these prices. Successful like it just starts trending up in the right direction or gets back to somewhat sacrifice price. These are the numbers PTC could do and just with what we've been doing already. Um and and I'm excited for it. Right. I I have belief in the code. I don't really need to have belief in anything else besides, you know, our community just waking up every day and trying to onboard at least a little bit.
And um and PC Shang being somewhat successful.
>> Just not going down would would be a huge relief to our system.
>> Yeah, man. Yeah. The power of the machine flywheel kicking in. This is Charles should be really capitalized on and further explained next time that reality alone is revolutionary. Yeah, this is good, man. But um you and I both got to jump. I love Saturday spaces.
They're so fun. We spent our whole time on this one calculator. It was worth it, man.
I'm pumped.
>> Yeah. And again, if anyone wants to play around with it themselves, it's not live on the website yet. I can send it to you like how I sent it to Banana. Um, I probably will make a few tweaks before it is live. Banana was making some pretty good suggestions, but I forget now. So, Banana, if you remember, >> I will text them over to >> But in the meantime, if you want to play with it, for me, it's, you know, it really helps, you know, me even myself look out long term just, you know, to show why we are here and what this could be in the future. Um, we've had definitely a rough couple or rough year, rough year and a half as far as price goes. That's opportunity. Um, it's created a lot of distribution. Tokens are getting put into strong hands. Weak hands have been exiting. Um, we've absorbed tons of sell pressure throughout the last two and a half years. And um, I I truly believe we are hitting this tipping point here soon, not only for us, but for PulseChain as a whole. and we're going to get that revaluation point and we can turn on this machine and start that year zero marker and really see this thing start to expand out and hopefully follow this calculator that I I spent a good time trying to figure out. Um, not only for the community, but also for myself because I want to understand this thing further. I want to understand crypto further and how these math how the math actually expands out over time. Um, you know, a lot of people have talked down on the V2 market maker structure, but I actually think the V2 market maker structure is more powerful than the V3, V4. Um, maybe not as far as like adaptability or what you can do with it, but for price appreciation, where we got the biggest gains in cryptocurrency was when all cryptocurrency was pretty much operating off a V2 structure. Um I I think we I think Richard understands this and that's why he hasn't put a focus on V3 or V4 or whatever. V2 is very secure and it makes it very easy to get gains and sustain them. Um it's really rel um throughout time and I think we have something special here. I think cryptocurrency has been evolving, but evolving in a direction that's not in favor of why we are here and what we're looking for as far as products go.
And I I think we have everything and UFO and and on Pulse chain that we need to be very very successful.
>> Yep.
>> All right, got to go. I'll get going.
It's Saturday. I'm gonna enjoy this sunny day.
>> Yeah, man. You go. Have a good day, man.
Appreciate all your work, dude.
>> Pickle ball with my brother-in-law.
>> Oh, good.
Have fun, man.
Thanks for hosting.
>> Thanks for coming in.
>> You're welcome. We'll see you guys.
There he goes. Wow.
He been working on that for a year. You know, he never gives a number, but he he will give scenarios and you can just unpack the numbers.
Huddle your bags. I have a hard time like even my yield. Like what do you do with that stuff? Hold on to it. Every stinking million it if PTGC goes to 12 dollars.
Okay, if it goes to a dollar and you hodddle five million of it for your family, that's $5 million you get to give to to some people.
Yeah. What if every hundred,000 is Well, if it at $12, every what 80,000 would be worth a million bucks or something like that. You can give somebody 50 thou 50,000 PTGC, which is nothing right now. You give them a h 100,000 PTGc when it's a dollar, it's a million bucks.
Then they they they can live off the APY from that from the volume.
It's mindblowing what this little system is that we're building. We are building. The code is set, but we are still building this thing. It's so wonderful to be so fun to be a part of.
Feed these facts to the AI investors.
Yeah, man. That's a good bit. Yeah.
Yeah. Actually, I I've already talked to Zen about that. Uh, Super Snake, alien ego will spread like a wildfire. FOMO will be epic without a doubt. Just had to be patient. We are in the right place for sure. Alien FOMO incoming. We're extremely undervalued. It's just a matter of patience. 100% PTGC maxing.
It's about patience. Guys, go have a good day and we'll see you on Monday.
And I'll be streaming tomorrow, too, by the way. Adios, guys. See you.
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