Hugh Jackman Made Us Cry Over Sheep. - Fireside Discussion

Added: 2026-05-11

[00:00:00]But I think every character here has positives but also like has faults and they are apparent like Lily >> likes to forget >> likes to forget trauma.

[00:00:09]>> Yes.

[00:00:11]>> Wow.

[00:00:11]>> Wow. That's I mean that's a Pixar deep theme though. Like that's what you get.

[00:00:16]>> It's good. It's good stuff.

[00:00:18]>> So good.

[00:00:29]So, Drew, you and I both watched The Sheep Detectives last night.

[00:00:33]>> It's true. We did.

[00:00:34]>> Uh, we had some time to sleep on it.

[00:00:37]>> True.

[00:00:37]>> How many sheep can you name?

[00:00:39]>> All right. You got Lily.

[00:00:40]>> Lily. Goat.

[00:00:41]>> You got Sebastian.

[00:00:42]>> Goat.

[00:00:43]>> You got Wool Eyes.

[00:00:44]>> Yes. You have the guy who started with the M who is the other kind of lead in the movie who's remembers everything.

[00:00:54]>> A >> uh more something >> moral. No >> no >> morel.

[00:01:00]>> Wait, let me look it up. The sheep detectives. So I can kind of hit you in the right direction.

[00:01:06]>> We have Patrick Stewart, but not but but a sheep version.

[00:01:11]Uh, oh, we have George the little the the That's kind of a spoiler, Loki.

[00:01:18]>> Not really.

[00:01:19]>> Um, >> oh, they don't say the names.

[00:01:23]>> What?

[00:01:23]>> That's stupid. Hold on. IMDb does.

[00:01:28]>> Okay.

[00:01:29]>> Okay.

[00:01:29]>> We also have We have Pickles.

[00:01:31]>> Pickles, >> which I will say is Pauly's favorite name. Okay.

[00:01:34]>> Of all the names. We have Cloud.

[00:01:36]>> Yeah, >> those are two off the dome.

[00:01:38]>> Oh, yeah. Clouds.

[00:01:40]You got Ronnie and Reggie.

[00:01:42]>> Yes. Oh. Oh. Oh, you're right with the M.

[00:01:45]>> Don't Don't look at it.

[00:01:46]>> Okay. Oh, I literally just saw it.

[00:01:48]>> Oh, it's it's Yeah.

[00:01:50]>> Yes. M.

[00:01:51]>> Sir Richfield is an awesome name.

[00:01:56]>> I mean, yeah, honestly, I remember more names than I thought I would. When they were listing the names at the beginning of the movie, I was like, I don't know.

[00:02:02]>> No shot. I'm remembering that. Yeah.

[00:02:03]>> But, uh, welcome back to my line, a fireside film podcast. I'm Grant.

[00:02:07]>> I'm Drew. We're talking about The Sheep Detectives, which came out uh this weekend, and you should go see it, cuz >> it was phenomenal.

[00:02:13]>> This movie is awesome. Drew, what did you think? I I want to hear about your watch experience, by the way. I want to hear about your experience to see The Sheep Detective.

[00:02:21]>> Look, I'll I'll just paint you a picture of my whole night audience. So, if you don't know, we are in currently a gauntlet of watching every Star Wars movie.

[00:02:30]>> Star Wars Marathon is going on right now.

[00:02:32]>> So, I guess Solo came out this morning.

[00:02:36]>> Yes. Um, so yeah, I watched started Return of the Jedi. Yes. In my bed.

[00:02:43]>> Yes.

[00:02:43]>> At like >> 6:00. I got back from work at 5.

[00:02:47]>> Mhm.

[00:02:48]>> And then I was like, "All right, there's a showing at 7:50 for Sheep Detective.

[00:02:52]I'll pause the movie with like 30 minutes left. Go see that. Come back and finish it."

[00:02:55]>> Yes.

[00:02:56]>> Clocked out. Just so so asleep. Wake up in a panic.

[00:03:01]>> I got to >> Oh my gosh. I got to salvage my night.

[00:03:03]It's 8:20 and I missed the 750 showing.

[00:03:07]So then I was like, "All right," which >> is the one I was in, by the way.

[00:03:09]>> Yeah, it's true. So then I'm like, "All right, I look at my Regal app. The next showing is 10:40." I was like, "Oh my gosh."

[00:03:18]>> So then I finish Return of the Jedi.

[00:03:21]>> Okay.

[00:03:22]>> 10 minutes later, get in my car, drive to see Sheep Detective. I debate a Regal employee about which Star Wars movie is better, Revenge of the Sith versus Empire and Return of the Jedi, >> which we'll talk about, >> which we'll talk about >> in a few days.

[00:03:33]>> Um, yeah. And then I watch this movie and I Here's the thing. I was like, I am already so tired. I had worked like a double shift and I was like, I am exhausted and I didn't know if I would be able to stay awake. This movie was very engaging and I like wasn't ever angry. I was sitting in the theater, which I have been in the past or stole my line. I I have been as well.

[00:03:54]Specifically in Avatar 3, which was that was probably the most brutal late night stole my line experience.

[00:03:59]>> Yeah, our show was like at midnight.

[00:04:00]>> It reminds me of I did the same thing one time but with Sketch and I love Sketch. I was like, "Oh, this movie is awesome." I felt the same way about this movie to a certain extent. So, what did you think of like non-spoiler cuz there's this is a murder mystery so we need to not talk about spoilers, but non-spoiler, what did you think of the Sheep Detectives? Like the film, the story, characters, everything.

[00:04:21]>> I'll say this. I think as a murder mystery, it's okay.

[00:04:25]>> I would say I would agree.

[00:04:26]>> It's like >> above par, >> right? But again, like you you kind of have to take it what it is. It's it's a PG movie for kids. But I I would honestly not say I think the the murder mystery is the vessel.

[00:04:40]>> Yes.

[00:04:40]>> But it's not the what's in the meat of the movie.

[00:04:43]>> Yes, I would agree.

[00:04:44]>> I think the themes and just the characters >> Yes.

[00:04:47]>> are phenomenal.

[00:04:49]>> Yes. I think this is exactly what a kids movie should be.

[00:04:52]>> I agree.

[00:04:52]>> Um I I was I was a huge fan of this movie. I I might go see it again, honestly.

[00:04:57]>> Honestly. Yeah. I mean, I don't even blame you. I It was very very good. Very entertaining. Very funny.

[00:05:03]>> It was It was genuinely funny. I laughed out loud multiple times.

[00:05:07]>> Yes, there were jokes, but it was just like funny characters and moments. Like I love the cop guy. Like he every time he was on screen, he was hilarious, even though like >> he was kind of a stereotype. So I I loved the movie. I thought I kind of expected like a serviceable, mildly funny murder mystery and you get that, but then you get so much more with specifically the characters and also this movie wrestles with like >> heavy topics.

[00:05:33]>> Like I it's kind of profound in some moments of like, oh, like we're wrestling with death right now.

[00:05:41]>> Like that's a thing. So we we'll talk about it more after spoilers, but I was just very impressed with this movie.

[00:05:48]This is what a family movie should be 100%.

[00:05:50]>> Especially in 2026. Um, I had a great time. My fiance had a great time. So, >> I would definitely say go watch this movie.

[00:05:57]>> Yes. Go watch this. This is one that like we need more of these types of movies. So, go watch this movie in theaters.

[00:06:04]>> Yeah, we want this to win.

[00:06:05]>> Yes. This one needs to to have a win in Hollywood right now. But, it's a great movie. Um, anything you want to talk about before we give our rating and then dive in full into spoilers?

[00:06:14]>> Well, yeah. I kind of wanted your reaction. I mean, a the cast is stacked.

[00:06:18]>> Yes, it is very stacked.

[00:06:19]>> This is written by Craig Mason, >> who if you don't know, >> listen, >> wrote Chernobyl and The Last of Us.

[00:06:25]>> Yeah, he he's the one of the showrunners and screen writers on that, like both those shows. And >> so I watch this movie. I don't know anything about the production of this movie besides there's a bunch of British people who play the sheeps and Hugh Jackman is Hugh Jackman.

[00:06:39]>> Um, and I'm like, "Okay, great. That's all I need to know about this movie going into this movie." Um, and I watched the movie. I think there were some of like the suspect cast members. I didn't really know, whatever. But it was great. Everybody was great. Gets to the end, roll credits, Paulie's having a great time. I see written by Craig Mason. Story and screenplay by Craig Mason. I was like, "What?

[00:07:07]How?" Like, and I said out loud and Paulie was like, "Who's Craig Mason?" I was like, "Just don't worry.

[00:07:13]>> Don't worry about it." Um, I think it's hilarious that someone can go from The Last of Us, which is a pretty dark show overall, I would venture to say, and then go from that to this.

[00:07:26]>> Yeah.

[00:07:27]>> Is a wild 180, but I love it.

[00:07:30]>> I think despite your opinion on The Last of Us 2, I think Greg Mason is a very talented writer.

[00:07:34]>> No, I I would completely agree.

[00:07:35]>> And I think this shows like his breadth and scale of what he's capable of doing.

[00:07:38]>> Yes.

[00:07:39]>> Also produced by The Lord and Chris Miller.

[00:07:42]>> Shocker. who are the goats of Hollywood.

[00:07:45]>> Um, >> no, I I think it was super well written and >> I agree.

[00:07:48]>> I agree with what you said. The murder mystery was the vessel and it was good.

[00:07:51]Like >> yeah, I mean it was it was it was interesting enough to keep me engaged.

[00:07:54]>> I will say I I solved it halfway through the movie. I I legitimately did like I I figured it out, but that's okay cuz it it didn't ruin the movie for me >> cuz I still had a great time with the characters. And so I think yeah, lasso of season 2 issues aside, >> I have a lot of respect for Craig Mason and I love that he did this. It's very well written.

[00:08:14]>> Good writers, please do more random stuff like this cuz this is awesome. So um yeah, I mean that was that was a shock though.

[00:08:21]>> Yeah, it it was pretty shocking.

[00:08:22]>> Um I don't know anything else you want to dive into before we give our our rating of >> I think we should give our rating.

[00:08:28]>> Okay, so if you don't know here on Soul My Line, first off, if you're new to Soul My Line, think about subscribing.

[00:08:32]>> You should. Um, we love talking about movies and television here. Doing Star Wars Marathon, so check that out. Uh, we have our rating system here, which is more just based on like how should you experience this movie. We have you should buy this on Blu-ray. Um, we have you should go experience this in a theater. We have you should watch this on streaming. We have you should watch this for free on Tuby if you have the opportunity maybe, and then avoid at all costs. Uh, >> I've thought a lot about this, >> okay?

[00:09:01]>> And I think I know where I stand.

[00:09:02]>> Okay. But I want to hear I kind of want to hear you. Wait, should we count down and say at the same time?

[00:09:06]>> Okay.

[00:09:07]>> 3 2 1 streaming. Oh, >> okay. Wait.

[00:09:11]>> Whoa. Streaming.

[00:09:12]>> Okay. I have reasoning.

[00:09:14]>> Okay.

[00:09:15]>> But I want it. I don't know. I'm going to buy this on Blu-ray, by the way.

[00:09:21]>> No.

[00:09:21]>> Then why why did you say streaming?

[00:09:24]>> Because I I have to sometimes remove my personal opinions from what I think.

[00:09:28]>> Okay. Why are you arguing streaming?

[00:09:31]Because here, okay, yeah, here's my reasoning. Not all streaming movies are bad.

[00:09:37]>> True.

[00:09:37]>> I think there's not a ton to gain from going to see this in theater besides supporting the movie, which I do think you should.

[00:09:44]>> Yeah.

[00:09:44]>> But like this wasn't an infinitely better experience on a big screen, >> right? It's not like some big spectacle.

[00:09:50]>> And I think there's elements of it that are really good >> like visually and stuff.

[00:09:54]>> I think the CG is really good.

[00:09:56]>> Yeah, I I want to touch on that post spoilers. Um, I will buy this on Blu-ray. I don't think most people will.

[00:10:05]And I the one thing I question it's like I think this movie will be very rewatchable for me, but I'm not sure it will be rewatchable for most people. And so I think this is my argument and I will agree with your Blu-ray take if you convince me.

[00:10:20]>> But most families, please sit down, family movie night, pop some popcorn, watch this movie when it comes out on Prime.

[00:10:27]>> Yeah, >> this is great. It is great.

[00:10:29]>> Great family movie. This is that like that's my argument for streaming. You can go see it in theaters. Sure. But like >> this is a great family movie night movie. Yep.

[00:10:36]>> That was my streaming argument.

[00:10:39]>> I agree with everything you said. But I think this movie has enough depth that it deserves 20 bucks of my money to be thrown at it.

[00:10:51]>> Okay.

[00:10:52]>> Like I I mean what do I think we said Sketch was Blu-ray. It's got Blu-ray.

[00:10:57]Okay, you're right. Detective >> is Blu-ray.

[00:10:59]>> That's a good comp.

[00:11:01]>> Okay.

[00:11:02]>> So, I'm like, and I mean, we've talked about a lot before. I'm like, >> simmering >> collecting physical media for our kids.

[00:11:08]>> Yes, we did.

[00:11:09]>> This is I mean, this is like top tier >> physical child movie >> that I I want to own.

[00:11:15]>> You know what? I'm going to >> I mean, low key, this is on a level of like a Pixar to me.

[00:11:19]>> Like an OG Pixar. Not even >> No, you're right. No. Like, and I know some people would be like, "Dude, she detected."

[00:11:24]>> Why haven't you seen it? watch the movie first. I gave it four stars on letter box and that's pretty high for me. Like that's a great movie in my mind. So yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[00:11:36]>> Like I'm having this next to Toy Story Wall-E and up.

[00:11:39]>> Yeah. That's not even crazy. That's not even crazy. This is a great family movie.

[00:11:43]>> Okay.

[00:11:43]>> Okay.

[00:11:43]>> Have I convinced you?

[00:11:44]>> Yeah. You've convinced me. Buy this.

[00:11:47]>> Final now. If you watch this on streaming, this this is >> Yeah. I mean, I think it's fine.

[00:11:51]>> Watch this whenever you can is kind of where I'm at with this movie. like this is a great movie. Um you can have a great time like any age, any phase of life, you can have a great time.

[00:12:00]>> So um yeah, I had a great experience. So um I guess we'll dive into spoilers >> for the Sheep Detective. So if you want to watch Sheep Detectives, >> uh go watch it and then come back to our video if you don't want spoilers.

[00:12:13]>> Um >> Drew, let's dive into briefly the murder mystery cuz like yes, it's the vessel, but we need to touch on it.

[00:12:20]>> What do you think of the murder mystery itself? I thought the murder mystery was kind of elementary, but that's okay.

[00:12:27]>> I think it's self-aware that it's elementary because it's like here is how every single murder mystery book goes, >> right? And then it just kind of follows.

[00:12:37]>> Yeah. And like there's the motive mean like there's the clueboard thing too, right?

[00:12:42]>> So at the same time, it it's like self-aware enough that I can kind of gloss over.

[00:12:49]>> Yeah. Uh, again, like when I say elementary, I mean I that's not really an insult to the movie. It's like I'm not watching Sheep Detective to have my mind blown by >> the mystery itself.

[00:13:00]>> The mystery itself.

[00:13:01]>> I do think that >> although I think it was good.

[00:13:04]>> I think the way that the mystery is solved is super entertaining.

[00:13:07]Specifically with the sheep. I mean, >> this is called The Sheep Detectives.

[00:13:10]This is about sheep solving a murder.

[00:13:12]>> Yep.

[00:13:13]>> And you get that and it is entertaining.

[00:13:16]So, I don't know. I I got what I came for from that kind of standpoint.

[00:13:20]>> I agree.

[00:13:21]>> Um I think I think Lily is a pretty good protagonist as a sheep.

[00:13:27]>> Yeah.

[00:13:28]>> Like you would be shocked at how watchable these sheep are.

[00:13:31]>> Like I don't know. It's just you love a lot of these sheep and they are CGI sheep and you care about them. So, >> I think something about this movie that is so well done is like >> I think in some kids movies when you have a protagonist, it's like it's just super cookie cutter and whatever. But I think every character here >> has positives but also like has faults and they are apparent like Lily >> likes to forget >> likes to forget trauma.

[00:13:59]>> Yes.

[00:14:01]>> Wow.

[00:14:02]>> Wow. That's I mean that's a Pixar deep theme though. Like that's what you get.

[00:14:07]>> It's good. It's good stuff.

[00:14:08]>> So good.

[00:14:09]>> Um I would say to like the the general cast of characters, the humans are very very solid. I know I said that earlier, but >> um >> it feels like equal parts watchable.

[00:14:22]Like I wasn't with the humans. I was like we got to get back to the sheep.

[00:14:24]And I wasn't with the sheep like we got to get back to the humans. It felt >> pretty balanced overall. Um pretty seamless. So what do you think of Hugh Jackman? This is like a random role.

[00:14:33]Random role for him.

[00:14:34]>> I lowkey love Hugh Jackman. I think he's great in everything he's in.

[00:14:37]>> Yeah.

[00:14:38]>> Um, >> shout out the prestige prisoners, by the way.

[00:14:40]>> Yeah, shout out to the precision prisoners.

[00:14:41]>> Go to movies.

[00:14:42]>> Um, I mean, I think he killed it.

[00:14:44]>> Yes.

[00:14:44]>> I think he was he wasn't even really in the movie.

[00:14:47]>> I think what he did in the movie was good.

[00:14:49]>> Yeah, I agree.

[00:14:50]>> He's definitely the focal point of the marketing and I mean, yes, then he's killed.

[00:14:56]>> Yeah.

[00:14:56]>> And so, >> it is what it is, but >> yeah, he he's in the movie for like the first 20 minutes and then in some flashbacks and stuff. So >> although when he was in the circus >> Oh yeah.

[00:15:06]>> I'm like crazy scene.

[00:15:08]>> Is this just the greatest showman just like behind the scenes >> behind the scenes. Hugh Jackman in the circus. I didn't know if I had a nickel for every time. Um I do think too that the I think yes I called the mystery halfway through. Sure. Whatever. Um I still think it was entertaining to the point where like a kid can be like this is a murder mystery. This is cool. Yeah.

[00:15:33]like this is a cool genre defining thing for maybe some families whereas Knives Out is probably a little more mature.

[00:15:38]>> I feel like this is a great entry point to the genre.

[00:15:40]>> Yeah, totally.

[00:15:41]>> If you're 10, >> let's talk about the genre maybe really quick. Um, >> Murder Mysteries have kind of seen a revival since >> Shout out Ryan Johnson. I said I told Grant I would say this on the pod. I'm going to give Ryan Johnson his flowers.

[00:15:53]This is this is his doing. He did good.

[00:15:55]>> Yeah, I would say this movie exists because Knives Out did well.

[00:15:58]>> Yeah, I agree.

[00:15:58]>> Um, what do you think of the murder mystery genre right now? Where should it go? Where are we at?

[00:16:04]>> I think it's good. I would love more people to tackle it. I mean, I guess like Craig Mason and is obviously tackling it, but like yeah, >> I would love someone else other than Ryan Johnson.

[00:16:15]>> It does feel like >> to take a step back.

[00:16:16]>> It does feel like he is carrying the entire >> lowkey the only one other than Sheep Detective right now. Now, to be fair, I mean, even from a novel standpoint, it was like I mean, the main runner was like Agatha Christie for so long. And so, like >> it hasn't been this huge genre that died out. I mean, it was a pretty it was more popular at one point, but >> I don't think it's it's always been a little bit more niche.

[00:16:38]>> Yeah, I agree.

[00:16:39]>> And so, somebody's carrying the torch right now, which I think is good, but I don't know.

[00:16:43]>> I mean, I think Knives Out is a great franchise. So, >> yes, >> I think what Ryan Johnson's doing is >> keep it up >> is awesome.

[00:16:49]>> Yeah. I think too like cheat detectives proves to me we can tell good murder mystery stories. So Hollywood please keep making them even if it's one every year or two years like that's enough for me. Don't don't kill the genre by oversaturating the market but >> like please keep it up because this was good. So yeah.

[00:17:08]>> What did you think of the themes of this movie?

[00:17:12]>> Oh man, there's some I mean I think a lot of the themes of grief >> Yeah. um and trauma and forgetting and death like >> which are >> that that's not super dark. This movie is a very heartwarming movie.

[00:17:24]>> It's true.

[00:17:24]>> Um so I think that's >> even just like accepting the outcast.

[00:17:29]>> I was about to say that's the other biggest part and I think that to me was really the home run of the movie of like that's what we ended on. And so yeah, the sheep wrestle with these kind of heavier themes, >> but then the movie ends with accept the outcasts and like, >> you know, you don't like why are you judging somebody before you even know them? All that stuff, which >> I would say is kind of a throughine with maybe family cinema >> at at times.

[00:17:55]>> Yeah, I think that's fair.

[00:17:56]>> I think you see that a lot with Disney and but like that's okay cuz that's a really positive message.

[00:18:00]>> Great message.

[00:18:01]>> I'm not hating. I'm just I think it was well done here. Um, Polly, I'm not going to say much about her opinions on the movie. Go read her letter box, but she she was just like in love with this movie and wept. So, it was great. Um, I think Accepting the Outcast was a great theme of this movie. So, like if you are a parent, this is what I'll say maybe about the themes. If you're a parent and you're like, "Hey, it's family movie night. My kids are eight and six. What should we watch?" Maybe it's a little mature for eight and sixy old, but not I wouldn't say it's like too mature.

[00:18:38]>> I think it's it's well written enough that it could go over their head if they're super young.

[00:18:44]>> Yeah. I I would say that >> and they can laugh at the funny sheep and not >> or maybe I'll expand it. Maybe you have a 12-year-old, an 8-year-old, and a six-year-old.

[00:18:51]>> Yeah.

[00:18:52]>> Your 12-year-old's like, "I don't really care about kids movies." Like, this fits a good middle ground of everything.

[00:18:57]Like, if you're a parent, you might cry during this movie. No, I agree.

[00:19:01]>> Um, if you're a kid, you're going to have a good time. And if you're kind of maturing, you might realize, wow, it's a really good story. Yeah.

[00:19:06]>> So, I feel like this fits the bill for a family movie. I know I've been saying that this whole podcast, but like >> this is great. So, I think the themes kind of can resonate with somebody who is older >> and if you're younger, you don't have to care about the themes and that's okay.

[00:19:21]>> I think when Sebastian died >> Oh gosh.

[00:19:24]>> I was like, "Oh, this movie is like taking itself seriously."

[00:19:27]>> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I didn't really see that coming.

[00:19:31]>> I kind of thought this would be a silly comedy and like the gimmicky of like this is about sheep detectives and like that's the whole movie and it wasn't.

[00:19:38]Like it was so much more than that, but it's like here's the concept, here's a murder mystery, here's the gimmick of these sheep are solving the mystery >> and then it just like did the best possible version of that specific literally >> it it possibly could have. So I applaud this movie for doing that.

[00:19:53]>> I think this movie is fantastic.

[00:19:54]>> Um I have a hot take. What's your hot take?

[00:19:57]>> This might be I don't know. This might not be a hot take. Maybe it's just a take.

[00:20:00]>> I was sitting in the theater watching the CGI sheep. Okay. Interact with Hugh Jackman. Yep.

[00:20:06]>> And I was thinking >> this movie I I think is the epitome in a good way of a 2026 film.

[00:20:13]>> I don't think this movie could have been made 10 years ago. N as well.

[00:20:18]>> Definitely not 20 years ago in live action. I think this this could have been animated. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:23]um you know for a long time but I think it would have been worse as an animated movie >> you would have lost kind of the realism I feel like >> I I think there's something about the characters like the human characters that makes it a little more relatable. I don't know.

[00:20:37]>> No, I agree.

[00:20:38]>> I I digress. I think I don't I'm not a huge fan of 2026 cinema. Like I think there's there's a lot of Well, hold on.

[00:20:46]I say that >> that's kind of a crazy I say as the scope of all cinema right now.

[00:20:50]>> Oh, like I like 2026 a lot. Sorry. How about 2020's cinema?

[00:20:54]>> Okay, that's what I mean. That's a way better a ton.

[00:20:57]>> 2026 honestly was in recent memory.

[00:21:00]>> Um I think that it's it's kind of diluted right now of like there's a lot of not great right now.

[00:21:07]>> True. Yeah.

[00:21:09]>> I don't love the vibes. But I will say with modern CGI and modern film making while this might not be the most visually striking movie this is what you can do with 2026 cinema that is like you can't do this in any other era and I like that about this movie. I agree.

[00:21:27]>> I think there are creative resources that >> we didn't even have 10 years ago that makes this movie work that it just wouldn't have worked 10 years ago.

[00:21:34]>> So I don't know if that's crazy to say but like >> No, I think I think it's valid. I mean, I think the problem now is like we have all these tools.

[00:21:43]Well, this is going to hurt some Hollywood people, but then we just have a bunch of incompetent people using them.

[00:21:48]>> No, I I would agree. I would say >> and I mean I we said this a million times, but like without a good story, >> it doesn't matter.

[00:21:55]>> It doesn't like you I don't care how many CGI blue people you throw at me, James Cameron. Without a good story, >> your movie will suck and will not be remembered. I think that like people tend to cut corners with CGI.

[00:22:10]>> Yeah.

[00:22:10]>> I would say this movie uses it like here's the mechanic of like these are the sheep. They are CGI. I'm sure they did other CGI stuff throughout the movie, whatever, but like here are the sheep.

[00:22:21]>> We're you we're using CGI for them.

[00:22:23]Yeah.

[00:22:23]>> We're going to shoot everything else real on plates and everything. Maybe we'll do some stuff with CGI. Like I'm sure some shots were fully CG, whatever.

[00:22:31]But like it's it's a tool, but it's not like it doesn't cut corners. Maybe maybe that's what I'm trying to say. Like >> no, I agree.

[00:22:40]>> It it doesn't dilute the movie.

[00:22:41]>> Yeah.

[00:22:42]>> So, I don't know really what my thesis of this whole conversation is besides >> story is important. I would say story is important, but like use the tools wisely and well >> and use it to support the story and not be the like again I don't want to keep harping on Avatar, but like Avatar's thing is the CGI.

[00:23:01]So like if that's your thing, it might be remembered in like a general pop culture sense, but it's never going to have an imp >> Yeah. I I would say >> impact on anyone.

[00:23:11]>> Yeah, I'd say Avatar.

[00:23:12]>> I say that there are gonna be people pissing me off.

[00:23:15]>> I don't know. We did three Avatar reviews and no one really like gave us too much crap. So, I I would say that The Sheep Detectives does a great job of using the 2026 tools >> well to serve the story.

[00:23:26]>> Yep.

[00:23:26]>> And if anything, it makes the movie work. I don't know. I don't think it could work with real sheep.

[00:23:31]>> Maybe like in an Airbuddy's style, like just make the mouths move. But I just don't think that would work. Like this works significantly better.

[00:23:38]>> Um >> so yeah, I don't know. That's kind of where I'm at with sheet protection.

[00:23:42]>> I agree. I the more we have this conversation, I think I'm actually gonna go see it again.

[00:23:47]>> Really? That's awesome. That is so awesome. I think I might take my family to go see it at some point because this is a great experience. Um, I don't know.

[00:23:54]Anything else you want to touch on? I mean, I talked about the themes. Do you want to touch on any of the theme stuff or >> anything else about the Sheep Detectives before we get out of here?

[00:24:02]>> Uh, the themes are phenomenal. I think it is handled with so much just like wisdom.

[00:24:09]>> Yes. on how how to deliver it to kids but also adults and do it well on both sides.

[00:24:14]>> The there's the one scene where the sheeps are walking through the sheep are walking through the town early on and they pass the church and it's like that's where God lives and they like go through like and they just get it so wrong but it's like it's not really offensive it's just kind of funny and it was like I'm like that's just good and if you're an adult you'll probably think that's funny. So >> there's a lot of great stuff in this movie I would say. I was like you said this movie is also funny and like I can't I mean I've laughed in other movies recently but like I probably laughed the most in Sheep Detective.

[00:24:47]>> I mean it was funny. It was good. I My theater was dead. There was like five people but there was one dude like three rows ahead of me that was like laughing his butt off. It was awesome. So um Drew, you're at a party.

[00:24:58]>> I'm at a party.

[00:25:00]>> And this is just a chill like we're heavy on the chill birthday.

[00:25:03]>> Heavy on the chill. Um, you walk in and you don't know a ton of people, >> right?

[00:25:08]>> This movie is on the TV.

[00:25:09]>> Yeah.

[00:25:10]>> I already know your answer, but are you sitting down to watch?

[00:25:13]>> This is a weird party movie.

[00:25:15]>> Really?

[00:25:16]>> I think so.

[00:25:16]>> I think this is a good party movie.

[00:25:18]>> Really?

[00:25:19]>> This would be a good like, oh, let's watch Detectives. This is fun.

[00:25:24]>> I would I would sit down and watch the whole thing.

[00:25:26]>> Really?

[00:25:26]>> Yeah.

[00:25:27]>> Okay.

[00:25:28]>> I would agree. And I think I'd try to get some other people to watch. They'd be like, no, I'm eating cake.

[00:25:33]>> All right.

[00:25:34]watch a stupid movie about sheep.

[00:25:36]>> Like, it's good. I promise.

[00:25:37]>> You don't understand.

[00:25:38]>> I feel like I would be like the one defender like, "You didn't watch this movie. It's good. I promise."

[00:25:42]>> Um, >> no. This is this is great. This is a this is a good party movie in my opinion.

[00:25:47]>> I feel like this is the type of party >> where a bunch of posers would be who would assert their dominance on my movie knowledge without having seen the movie.

[00:25:54]>> Be like, "Yo, but like have you seen >> Have you seen it? Have you seen Fight Club?

[00:25:58]>> Have you seen Fight Club?"

[00:25:59]>> Like, yes, bro. I've seen it.

[00:26:00]>> They're like, "Yes, I have." Um, >> Sheep Detective is better than Fight Club, but no, I I don't know. I'm kidding.

[00:26:07]>> Uh, let's not go that far. We'll we'll debate that another podcast, but I think Sheep Detective is great. Please go watch it if you're with your family.

[00:26:14]>> Drew, we're in the middle of our Star Wars marathon. We are.

[00:26:16]>> What do we got coming up next?

[00:26:17]>> Let's think. We have Rogue One tomorrow.

[00:26:20]Then we have New Hope. Then we have Empire. We're dropping daily.

[00:26:23]>> Yes.

[00:26:24]>> So, if you're into Star Wars, this is Star Wars. This is the time to be a stole my liner.

[00:26:28]>> Yes. Um, Last Jedi, there will be some debates, some hot topics.

[00:26:33]>> Yes, I agree.

[00:26:34]>> Some feelings hurt, but we are mature and we'll move past it.

[00:26:37]>> Yes, we will as co-hosts.

[00:26:39]>> As co-hosts and y'all are welcome to debate, too. But >> yes, we're doing it respectful.

[00:26:45]>> We're doing a Star Wars hot takes episode. I know this is a She protects episode, but if you have hot takes about Star Wars, comment those below cuz we're going to talk about them. Um, we have Mandalorian and Grou coming out this month. back rooms. I mean, House of Dragons starts up in June. So, there's a ton of stuff coming out. July, obviously, is the Odyssey and Spider-Man. So, we're just going to keep content coming. So, you should just keep coming back to my line and hit that subscribe button. But, uh, if there's something you want us to talk about, too, comment below and maybe we'll get around to it. But, um, thanks for sticking with us. Go watch sheep detectives and take a break and enjoy a film.