Starship Flight 12 Recap! What Happened & What’s Next?

Ajouté : 2026-05-31

[00:00:00]Hello. Hello. Welcome everybody. This is the regular every other Monday speech junkie takeover on what about it and this is Sabi and I've got David here with me. Hi David.

[00:00:14]>> Hello. Good morning, good afternoon, good evening for for everyone around the world. Yeah, again two weeks pass and we are here >> with some good analysis because we've got some spectacular event just a couple of days ago.

[00:00:31]>> Yes, something is missing from this from this footage.

[00:00:35]>> Thanks God finally it's missing. It's gone missing. Um, in this show we are not trying to do a full recap, although we're going to go through what happened, but just check the latest what about it episode from Felix because he covered everything. What we are going to do in this episode is we're going to tell you our own sort of observation on the events and how we saw it and what we know since uh about about the booster, what it seems like that happened to the booster and how things are gone and probably what are the um options for the future. What can we expect in a couple of weeks or months. So, um, let's just not hesitate and I think let's just dive into it because we've got quite a lot to cover.

[00:01:28]>> Okay.

[00:01:29]>> So, probably, yeah, let's just roll the what about it? uh sorry the SpaceX live stream and we're going to see uh how the the launch happened and we got some extra footages from other angles and uh comparisons with other previous flights and probably that's going to be nice to see exactly uh how it turned out. This was a pretty rapid launch, wasn't it? So the first time they hold they were holding down the booster and it actually like like really fast ascension. So like it never left the pad this quick.

[00:02:10]>> No, no, that was the quickest or fastest uh liftoff >> all time. So yeah, but just um uh just for for the record, it uh it was launched for the second attempt because the first time they had some trouble with the pin and it was kind of annoying because the Starship itself uh was healthy and everything else was uh okay.

[00:02:34]Just a a small uh pin on the on the ship quit disconnect arm uh had a bad day and it told that okay, we won't launch today. So yeah, it the Starship could be could have been launched uh on >> on yeah in for in central time uh 5:30 p.m. Friday. So just right be at the beginning of the launch launch window.

[00:02:59]And that that was uh that's why that's another other other angle or other um other interesting thing that uh it it never happened before that they could just launch just right at the beginning of the launch time uh launch window >> and yeah the ascending was kind of quick. We just blinked an eye and the Starship wasn't there anymore.

[00:03:23]>> Mhm. By the way, excellent footage from the Y team. what you are seeing right now. I mean, look at those shock waves.

[00:03:31]That's >> Oh, that's beautiful.

[00:03:34]>> And and even from from above uh on the SpaceX live coverage, you could see how far those shock waves reached and pushing the air. Yeah, it's it's a spectacular view. Uh let's >> It's around 2,00 no 8,240 konton. So, a lot a lot of thrust.

[00:03:58]>> Yeah.

[00:03:58]>> And let's just highlight the fact that the launch mount was doing an excellent job.

[00:04:06]>> Um, we could probably pause the video and I in the meantime I will find Oh, come on. Where is it? Uh, I never find the photos when it's needed, but I will find There we go. So, from uh RGV, he took some spectacular uh shots before and after the flame trench and it looks like it's in a very neat uh shape.

[00:04:36]>> Absolutely.

[00:04:37]So, just the painting came off and that's all. So, it seems just without any damage, harmless if I can say that.

[00:04:46]So >> from the outside at least.

[00:04:48]>> Yeah. Yeah. From the outside.

[00:04:50]>> Maybe there are some uh some uh uh problems with the concrete around the around the flame trench, but that's all.

[00:04:58]So the launch mount itself uh I mean here.

[00:05:02]>> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there are some some um damages, but they can fix it kind of quick. So the the main thing was that the launchment uh shall be still intact and in one piece if it if it's possible after the launch and yeah it it was succeeded. So >> yeah.

[00:05:24]>> Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um I can show some comparison.

[00:05:31]Okay. First of all, if you can watch uh Jonathan that um comparison, he's at the back end and uh he's uh he will show you some cool footages of it's a comparison between flight one and flight 12 and you will see. Okay, it's a little bit unfair comparison for sure because flight one had all the problems at the beginning.

[00:05:58]uh they lost a couple of engines and and of course uh the ascent the speed of the ascent is is incomparable but it just shows how far they came and how well all the systems worked at the launch at the moment of of launch uh I don't I think nah Uh, it's Are you sure that it took off so slowly?

[00:06:36]Is it Oh, is it in the video? Okay. I'm sorry if I was saying it wrong.

[00:06:42]Oh, you're right. Okay. Okay. I beg your pardon. Okay, that's okay. That That's even better. That's even better then because it means that this this much improvement has happened. I'm sorry.

[00:06:53]Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. So, flight flight flight 11 and flight 12. Sorry. and you but you can see the difference and that's it. It's it's it's thanks to the generation change. So >> yeah, >> that's the difference between actually the Raptor 2 and Raptor 3.

[00:07:07]>> Mhm.

[00:07:08]>> And of course the launchpad uh how it just uh um let let go the the ship I mean the Starship. So yeah, everything was changed and that's why also we mentioned in the in the in our own um stream that uh this flight of absolutely.

[00:07:55]Yeah.

[00:07:56]>> So, and and that shows uh a pretty pretty bright bright future because uh because these pads I mean these these new this newer launch pads. But it's a good news that uh it withheld kind of nicely um for for first sight again. But yeah, I I get I think if they just uh coming back from from the holidays, they will just uh uh had a they will have a kind of throw out check and they just they will just checking everything so around around the launchpad. But yeah, from outside it looks kind of nice.

[00:09:07]>> Mhm. Indeed. Um I think it's worth mentioning that um the difference between the the launch mounts uh because now we've we've seen for the first time uh how much of a difference it makes when the tunnel is is diverting the flame trench into two directions instead of the shock waves going everywhere like 360 degrees uh like the first launch mount. I think for for for this reason that's a huge difference they could have avoided.

[00:09:48]Okay, I know in hindsight everybody is smart but they could have avoided so much problem if it's already two directional uh instead of going everywhere. So imagine that all the damage that the flying debris caused at flight one and later on uh with those tanks, you know, those horizontal tanks, >> vertical vertical tanks, sorry. Uh that could have been avoided because this way the flames only go in two directions and two directions where nothing is obstructing the view and is damaging nothing. So finally they got to the to the point that they are using using a conventional solution that it's very um common uh in uh in the industry. It's it's very um so everybody's doing it almost everybody's doing it this way. So that's a good thing >> especially if we if we are thinking on flight one when there was no water delivery system at all. Well, I I I don't think we we need to forget flight one because that's that's not >> yeah just just uh if we just looking back that how how they they thought that what what can go what what can happen.

[00:11:11]Okay. But nevertheless, we can go we can go on and just talk about what happened just uh couple of days ago, not three o over three years ago because that was so old or that that was so uh back old days, good old days. But >> all right. Yeah. These these original SpaceX photos just just beautiful and fascinating.

[00:11:38]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay.

[00:11:40]So, hot staging happens and hot staging was something that we all looked forward because we didn't know what to expect. I mean, we've seen hot staging before, but this new design that they did is is is definitely something that we've never seen in action. And hot staging was spectacular.

[00:12:05]Uh but what came after was a little bit less spectacular. Uh mainly from the booster's point of view, but to be honest, I got scared for a second for the ship as well. Um but let's just focus first on the booster. Okay, so first of all, what do you think this flying debris is? Cuz I don't think it's just static. It seems like something is flying off of the ship. So is it is it But there's no ice in there. So, I I'm not entirely sure what was going on.

[00:12:35]These white little things on the screen anyway. Probably it was just the broadcast. I don't know.

[00:12:43]But it seemed like something is falling off from the top of the >> strange because it shouldn't be ice. So, >> yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Definitely.

[00:12:51]So, now this is the point when there boom. This is where everything went wrong. And uh there's a lot of speculation exactly what happened with the booster. Uh I think what I mean look at how how it's behaving there at the at the at the at the distance. So instead of just being very stable and just doing his boost burn, he started spinning a little bit.

[00:13:19]>> Yeah.

[00:13:19]>> Kind of out of control. And it did not look too solid to be honest. And at the moment I think what we know is that the spin was too aggressive.

[00:13:33]>> Mhm.

[00:13:34]>> So as it was tilting away from the ship and also it seems like that well I I read somewhere that probably the V3 Raptors are just too powerful. And when they turned it on on the ship and the boost and the separation happened, it just pushed the booster over the limit probably.

[00:13:58]And >> yeah, so the the direction of the um back flip wasn't planned as well. So >> it shouldn't be going to the left from this angle.

[00:14:10]>> No. No. but uh maybe just uh 90° below on that. So yeah, the the Raptors are a bit more powerful as they expected. And uh that was a kind of interesting difference that previously they just uh had they they just left uh three engines. So the three center engines uh running, but now it was I guess it was planned. So they left five engines in total um during the Miko. So the most engine cutoff and uh maybe that was the that was the reason that the this back flip was so energetic and aggressive.

[00:14:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. Uh do you think that Okay.

[00:14:54]So what we've seen and I think we have a footage and I allow Jonathan uh some time to um to find that footage but there is one footage that shows that there is one energetic event when most likely yeah one raptor just just gone and and it knocked out like another 15 of them I think >> around that.

[00:15:19]>> Yeah. So, a lot of people already were shouting out for engine cover or the lack of them uh the shielding and probably now they think that the engines are too vulnerable uh in an event like this. But to be fair, uh it might be the sloshing as well. So the fact that it turned so quickly I mean we've seen similar at flight two I think I think during flight two the booster blew up and there was some sloshing as well probably that was for a different reason but yeah uh that might yeah yes yes so the video is definitely uh we need to give a credit for the space engineer here because he's done this he's doing an incredible job. He's the guy who simulated uh the flight 11 return path for the ship. So you definitely take a look at his work as well. Um and you can see >> he has a good eye for it. We can make sure.

[00:16:28]>> Absolutely. Absolutely. And you can see how the engines went out. So the the the the way how they relate the engines, it looked like everything is on track and all of a sudden it just completely gone out like they lost most of the engines and from that moment uh it did not turn out to be too good. What I was surprised a little bit is that I mean, have you heard any word of them relighting 33 engines during bulls back burn? Cuz I I didn't know that's going to happen cuz in the past what they done is they done the inner three and then the middle 10 >> during boost back burn. I don't recall relighting all of the engines.

[00:17:19]>> No, no, no. And uh I don't know whether it was a planned or or the maybe the flight computer was just or tried to uh replace the the um the already damaged engines and maybe just the system was a bit confused and they tried to or it tried to >> uh ignite again all of the 33 and let's see let's see which which is working or which is not working. I don't know but it was kind of interesting as well.

[00:17:48]Yeah, because it's it seems like they definitely wanted to relight all of the engines and for boost burn probably they changed something >> why it should be necessary.

[00:17:59]>> Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Um anyway, whatever happened happened. The booster had was falling. It was actually not wobbling. What was uh Can you play Jonathan uh please uh that section because uh when the booster was falling it was spinning I think. Yes, it was spinning.

[00:18:20]>> It was spinning but it it stopped when the grit fins uh started to work.

[00:18:25]>> Yeah, definitely they had they had their their job.

[00:18:30]>> Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Uh which was good to see.

[00:18:34]>> Yeah.

[00:18:34]>> To be fair.

[00:18:34]>> Absolutely. uh because it means that the controls uh were working as they had to.

[00:18:42]Uh so in the future is definitely a good reference uh for SpaceX and it seems like the plan of you know missing out one or leaving so reducing the the grid fins from four to to three uh that's definitely going to going to be a good solution. So, um it's always good to see when things work out as they intend. Um and we saw the booster falling uh without spin. And well, I think this is one of the last seconds.

[00:19:18]>> Yep. This is one of the last seconds uh of the booster intact. The speed was still like over the speed of sound. So I think we can safely say that this was this was a very energetic uh landing.

[00:19:38]>> Yeah. Or rod rapid schedule disassembly.

[00:19:43]>> Yeah. Of course it was unplanned. So but just be be uh because what we have uh talked about previously. So the raptors couldn't be relighted anymore or reunited anymore.

[00:19:55]>> I think I think it did some of the one was >> they tried.

[00:19:59]>> Yeah, we've seen >> so there was a flame coming out from the bottom and that was all. So it wasn't any any uh decrease of the speed.

[00:20:09]>> Yes. Yes.

[00:20:11]>> So yeah. Mhm.

[00:20:13]>> So um but to be frank maybe they can fix it kind of easy. So if they can fix the I mean if they analyze whether they still still need five raptors for the boost back burn.

[00:20:27]>> Mhm. Maybe if they if they relight or they just uh leaving free engines free center engines running maybe that that will be enough and in uh and um with this solution the back flip won't be so energetic or aggressive and u and maybe the slushing the the the slushing won't be so hard I mean the the propellent slushing and and the booster can survive much easier. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:20:59]>> Because so it's it's not a design problem and that's the most important thing that u that it's not a a root problem because it if it had then it would be a big trouble for them. I mean for the engineers but it seems to be a bit easy fix but let's say let let's see what what happens on the next flight.

[00:21:20]>> Mhm. Yeah. And uh just one more addition. I think what SpaceX is doing excellently is when something goes wrong with the stage, usually they fix it for the next flight. So uh same thing happened in previous flights in the past. Uh they had some problem with the booster, they check exactly what went wrong and then they fix it uh either with the software or they modify something. But definitely that was that was very nice to see uh that that um they anyway sacrificed the booster. Um and I don't think it's a it's a major problem.

[00:22:03]>> Uh okay with the ship I I got I got a bit scared when uh one >> me too vacuum engine gone off because I expected other engines going out too and I think >> we have we have some PTSD.

[00:22:18]Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Because Yeah.

[00:22:20]Flight seven and eight. Yeah. It always started like this. One engine out.

[00:22:25]>> I thought that please not again. Not again.

[00:22:28]>> Yeah. And to be fair in our uh in our stream uh we all mixed up uh the booster with the ship and we all assumed that that ship is spinning and we were like, "Okay, that's it. It's done." Is if when the ship is spinning it's it's a big problem. And then like after a minute because we were like so PTSD out that that that then we realized no no no it's the booster spinning and the ship is actually pretty pretty solid and they never lost another another engine and and it it actually done a superb job. So yeah, we were so happy. So happy.

[00:23:12]>> Yeah. And of course uh we couldn't know then uh when we had this uh PTSD problem but just uh thinking on the whole story when so after the launch uh it's very good thing that even with one engine out they could just spot on the re-entry the whole re-entry phase and they could just land the ship right where they want they wanted and that's a very and it's a very important thing >> even if they have if they lost an engine because uh we don't know it it it was happened. Yeah, we could see some um some damage on the skirt. So maybe there was um and again an energetic uh happening around one raptor vacuum and that's why maybe it was just out. So but even even with five engines, they could the ship could do its job. So it's it's a good thing again. So of course I I I don't want to say that's it's normal.

[00:24:12]And uh as it as it was expected but again uh that uh the ship was surviving the whole phase so the whole coasting and re-entry phase and it could be landed where they wanted and it's it's an important and a nice nice achievement.

[00:24:31]>> Yep. Yep. and and uh actually they had now they had the chance it even if it was unintentional.

[00:24:39]Uh now they know that one vacuum engine out is still they can do pretty good job. Okay, different story because if they go to orbit, uh I don't think it it could have resulted in any change in the in the flight plan because they just run the engines longer here that it's a suborbital flight and they have to land somewhere. probably that was the reason why they had to skip the de-orbit burn because the adjustment in the flight. It just they just couldn't they just didn't have the chance or the time or or the speed or I don't know all of these together to actually relight uh the engine cuz even even running it for like 2 seconds could have changed the flight path so that it would never land at the designated area. So it was it was really nice. They need to replicate this flight completely. Uh because the de-orbit burn was was not uh demonstrated. But still at least now they know that one engine out is still a ship can achieve a planned speed and and uh at altitude. So it was very good. There's a nice comparison uh of of uh well it was SN something 8 9 we don't know but an early prototype >> a very early prototype this is the engine bay and look how far they come in a couple of years I mean come on this is this these photos they speaks for themselves they speak for themselves it's beautiful it's just pure beauty >> just look at look at the the whole engine It's it's so clear and and so uh smooth and everything. So they are just only the Raptors and and the >> except here >> on the left side.

[00:26:32]>> Normally it it it's not there. Okay. So uh so only the engines are uh visible uh in the whole uh engine bay. It's it's unbelievable.

[00:26:44]>> Yeah. it just and it's just beautiful how the colors are changing and it's it's just good to see it's good good to watch uh this this photo and SpaceX does know very well how to make us make us uh uh very happy or very satisfied. Yep. Um let's see the um what happened with the payload because they they took 22 dumblings with them and 20 was just a normal dumbling. They they used to use a demonstration sorry 20 uh 20 Starling demonstration um model. But there was there were two of them which they had some good plans and I kind of had some doubts exactly how do they plan to do that because when the at the deployment uh the ship is deploying it at the back of the ship.

[00:27:45]So so it's it's opposite of the heat shield right where the payload door is.

[00:27:51]and they planned to in do some inspection on the heat tile. So the these two operational kind of or test demonstration stalling satellites they had to have the ability to actually hang around the ship and somehow um I don't know stay with the ship close and then and then inspect it. And when they were deploying the the last one of these two and they turned on the light, I was like, "No way. No freaking way."

[00:28:29]>> They did it. And they were they were putting some flashlights. It was so bright. And then I just could not believe my eyes. And I and I said in our live stream that if they will have the opportunity uh if they get back some good footage they will show it in the live stream because that's a proper show off of some capabilities that has never showed before and namely a uh so there is one object and it's taking photos or even videos of a starship in space. So, uh, an object in space taking a photo of a ship in space. So, you can see the flashlights coming off on. And I mean, this is just mad. And if and then and then if we're going to jump to the to the point when they they were actually replaying this footage, I think the whole world went like, "What? What are you doing? It's crazy."

[00:29:37]It was amazing. Yeah.

[00:29:40]>> Yeah. But just >> find it in a second. Yep.

[00:29:43]>> If we if we just looking back on the entire stream, so the clear the clear clear uh footages on on the booster and on the ship as well.

[00:29:55]>> And of course, yeah, they just amazed us. They just amazed us with these footages. So we couldn't believe our eyes during the show. So they really did it and they really showed us because it wasn't it wasn't necessary or >> or obligatory to to it wasn't but it's PR. It's heavy PR. Yeah.

[00:30:15]>> If they have the footage they I bet I was I if I if I was betting I would bet all of my money that they will show it because this is like this is the best PR for the company at the moment.

[00:30:29]>> Look at that. And they are just they are just before the IPO. So maybe they need all of the marketing or promotion.

[00:30:39]>> Yeah. Amazing. Mind was blown completely.

[00:30:43]>> Yeah.

[00:30:44]>> Beautiful footage. Some icing but and the booster but our mind was blown up >> completely. Completely. So, let's talk about those heat tiles cuz uh I think one of the most important bits I' I read somewhere that probably the whole reason why they wanted to see the ship is because of those heat tiles on this side, not even the other side. Although they have they have inspected because we we've seen that the ship was spinning around on its uh long longer axis longer axis uh longitudinal axis I don't know how to say it but so like like around its long I don't know please chat help us this is when we lost in translation but uh so it was spinning around the way that it could show its belly to demonstration uh the dumb link and uh so they could inspect the whole heat tile as well of the ship tops to bottom axis. Thank you. That I think that will do. Thank you, Anthony.

[00:31:52]Uh but the most important probably are these heat tiles because they they needed to show that how many of them fallen off and it looks like not many.

[00:32:05]>> No. So there wasn't any >> any damage or lost heat ties at all. So everything was still there.

[00:32:13]>> Mhm.

[00:32:14]>> And um yeah later we will check um of course the footages around the the splashdown and there wasn't any uh heat tires missing at all as well. So it's a very very good news as well. But yeah, we will just uh coming in there very quick so or get there. But yeah, again these space footages are are just unbelievable again. So >> indeed >> and now and uh and later or or the next phase the the plasma phase just came in and >> sorry there are some good suggestions pointed to flee me and axis.

[00:32:53]I like it. That's a team dot version of of defining the longitudinal longitudinal axis. Thank you guys in the chat. Um, so yeah, plasma phase again, beautiful footages and all along the whole stream the 4K footage. Again, I cannot stress enough how good job SpaceX is doing in terms of visual and communication and and and and showing exactly what happened. Still today, this is the only the only vehicle that we can see the re-entry all the way.

[00:33:32]This time around, I don't I don't even remember any disruption at all. So, like it's so tiptop right now. It's so cool.

[00:33:41]There's no loss of signal, nothing. It's just straight and it was so controlled.

[00:33:47]No shaking, no vibration, just sometimes you had the feeling that it's frozen. Uh the >> and it wasn't.

[00:33:56]>> And so it was so stable like the ship itself. So it just came through the plas plasma phase as it as it would have been an easy basis lemon squeezy. So >> yeah, >> and of course we all know that it's it's it's uh very very hard to uh coming back almost from uh orbit >> because if it was even I I don't know more than 26,000 kilometers per hour. So it was kind of fast. So not not the first cosmic uh cosmic speed, but almost. So the ship had to do it its job, but it did. And um and it's a very very good thing that uh they haven't lost a ship and hopefully they won't lost a ship at all if it's it's starting the plasma phase or or the uh descending uh stable because of of course we all know that there were there were some or there was only one flight when the ship was flip uh flipping around already and of course it was uncontrolled so it it couldn't survive but It's another story.

[00:35:05]>> I think it was two. I remember >> there was there were two of >> I I I don't know why I remember but I I it rings the bell that there was there were twice when they lost uh control of the ship re-entry.

[00:35:18]Um definitely it was flight three and I think of and I think flight nine was was like that as well. So flight seven and eight.

[00:35:29]>> Flight nine.

[00:35:31]So flight seven and eight when they lost it >> of Yeah. Yeah. That's that's true. But okay, but anyway, so I I just wanted to say if the ship wasn't flipping or or spinning, then it came back.

[00:35:45]>> Mhm. Yeah.

[00:35:46]>> And it's it's also a good thing that that the heat shield can survive, of course, in different shape or different uh Yeah. in different shapes or different um how to say um uh conditions. But we will see uh very soon that how the the de development or the or the refining of the heat shield is just visible on the on the uh belly of the ships different ships because uh yeah we all know that uh it's a very very long way still. So and as as Ilan also mentioned the heat shield it's the most important and it's the hardest thing they have to uh solve in the entire uh starship development program they have they they have left but as well uh they so the so the uh improvement is visible that's for sure I double check flight 9 was spinning as well >> okay >> mhm so there were twice when uh the ship was spinning at re-entry and obvious Obviously, it did not make it in one piece, but as you said, every single time when the ship was re-entering in a controlled manner, it did land. So, that's that's so important. And I think every single time when we see uh the ship actually doing its flight and landing, we saw how solid how the strength of the whole design with with the um stainless steel and and obviously they have the uh ablative layer underneath the heat tiles. I think we've seen the the very first among the very first uh ship re entries when the flaps nearly fallen off and burned through and it still landed.

[00:37:43]>> Yes.

[00:37:43]>> Precisely. Not like miles off, precisely exactly where they were expecting it. So it's it they have something very strong and very wellbuilt uh design I think at their at their hands and I think in the future it can only going to get better and and they already saw that how how much of of a of a of of a bad situation uh or beating can a ship take. So I think they are on a very right track and when it was landing uh that was superb as well. Uh if you can uh go a little bit forward Jonathan and just show when it when uh when it's already daylight and uh you could see that it was doing some uh turning maneuvers as well and that's very important just like they've done it at flight 11. So they were already demonstrating how it will approach Starbase. Uh so it was turning left and right and you we can see that it was doing some maneuvering. Uh so just simulating exactly how to return to Starbase and how to approach the chopsticks which again it's mind-blowing for me that they've done it again. And you can see that uh at the bottom right corner the orientation of the ship that's very nice to see. Yeah. And again if we are if you think about that they have lost one engine earlier and even with this problem they could they could just manage >> the the very precisely the entire re-entry phase.

[00:39:25]>> Yeah.

[00:39:27]Yeah.

[00:39:27]>> So yeah, and then yeah, there was a kind of big big uh right banking angle. Uh yeah, banking maneuver and there was then a left turn, I guess. So yeah, that's how the ships will come back later.

[00:39:43]>> Just the question is when >> just imagine the first people to see it live from Starbase just like the shuttles were approaching the the the landing facility. Is it it's called the landing facility, right? That that trip.

[00:39:58]>> Yeah. Uh just the first people who going to see a ship approaching the star base and land. I mean that's going to be priceless. I I would love to be among those people. Um most likely it's not going to happen. But for those who going to see it m and also something to worth mentioning is the G forces in the right corner is the light right lower corner.

[00:40:24]I think it never went over like two two and a half I think tops it was two and a halfg I can't recall.

[00:40:32]>> Yeah. So so but definitely under 3Gs. So it's very good very good. So it's much softer on on human beings if ever going to sit anybody on on top of a starship.

[00:40:43]So it's nowhere near >> Absolutely. Compared to let's say the Dragon return uh re-entry which is like three 4gs 4gs I think >> around four maybe it can be five as well.

[00:40:56]>> Yeah >> if something happens but >> yeah so that's pretty >> compared to the dragon. Yeah it's it's much much lower.

[00:41:03]>> Absolutely. Absolutely. So yeah, uh overall we enjoyed it so much. So 35 kilometers and and it was doing I think one more very strong turn and that was so visible and it just looks so good and the left turn on the second time. Yeah.

[00:41:24]>> Okay. Uh and what shocked me is basically the terminal velocity it was it was falling. So like around 350 kilometers per hour it just it just stopped there like like it never dropped or never went higher. And again in the future seeing this falling from the sky just just remember SN the SN flight the high altitude flight and I've seen I think SN9 I think Mario pointer was taking a footage when he's just falling and you think it's a slow-mo.

[00:42:06]You think it's a slow-mo because it's falling so slow compared to a a an Falcon 9 booster. It's It's scorching down like screaming down. It's It's so fast. And compared to that, this is like slow-mo falling. It's incredible. Yeah.

[00:42:26]This is the turn.

[00:42:27]>> Yeah, that's the right turn. And >> Uhhuh. And it will turn back again. I think >> there will be a left left turn coming up if I'm I remember remember well.

[00:42:39]>> Uh so yeah it just it was just very nice to see again that they can repeat this uh this uh banking maneuvers.

[00:42:47]>> Absolutely. Absolutely. And take a look at >> rockid. It's rock solid.

[00:42:52]>> Yeah definitely no wobbling. No no no nothing. It's stable. Stable. And I really like these little RCS thrusters.

[00:43:01]Uh it's a nice touch. I was checking this covering of the pin uh or this lifting point that is going to lend to.

[00:43:10]Uh that was nice to see on the on the left uh as well. And it it it definitely survived. So when it's going to land, it seems like these landing points or lifting slashlanding points, they are unharmed. So yeah, it was very nice. Very nice. Um there were some white heat tiles. So these are this is not on the left of the screen in the middle uh of the left of the screen. Uh this is not a missing tile. There was only one missing tile and supposedly they they had like a bunch of sensors around it. But all of the others that looks like uh missing tiles, they are not. They are just painted white and they were reference tiles. Um and as you can see, I think none of them fell off.

[00:43:58]Maybe one no >> of that heat tile on the only one, but >> yeah, >> that that's a that's a good rate.

[00:44:05]>> Yeah, that's an acceptable rate. And I think Yeah, this is the other turn.

[00:44:09]Yeah, this is the final.

[00:44:10]>> That's the left turn. Yeah.

[00:44:11]>> Yeah. I mean, look at that. How how nice. It's like a skydiver.

[00:44:20]>> Yeah.

[00:44:20]>> So, yeah. And compared to the booster, the ship was so stable all around during the it's it's descending phase. So, >> yeah.

[00:44:30]>> And look how slow the falling rate is.

[00:44:33]It's like 400 kilometers per hour. And obviously, as it's hitting denser and denser atmosphere is still slowing down, but there's a point when it's not really going down anymore. 3. Yeah. 50ish.

[00:44:45]Yeah. And this one, this one I was like, what is going on?

[00:44:50]>> Yeah, it it was it was kind of hard to to uh follow, >> but again, then the drones uh um just found the the ship and yeah, it was it was very nice from SpaceX that they just left uh the footage and we could see the blow up blowing up of the ship.

[00:45:10]>> I'm surprised that they show this.

[00:45:14]I was surprised that they were showing this. I mean, I'm happy because we've seen something we've seen something that we we didn't really see too often, but yeah, majestic. Just a majestic view.

[00:45:29]And uh if we can have the images uh please then we show you some of the images that SpaceX has shared with us.

[00:45:40]Uh so you can see that the the heat tiles are actually in very good shape.

[00:45:46]>> Yes, >> it doesn't look like many of them is missing. So I think they are uh on a good track with that and I think this is from another angle. I mean this is some spectacular photography to be honest. Uh you mentioned this colorization on the top uh when we were chatting before the show. Um we don't know what is it for.

[00:46:16]Probably it's just the the plasma as it was hitting uh that bit. Uh but I don't think it's it's a problem. Um there's a drone in there.

[00:46:29]>> Hello little guy.

[00:46:30]>> Hello. Hello drone. And there is one about the landing. I mean, and this is the boy here.

[00:46:38]>> Yeah. So, SpaceX, please show us those footages, too, because we can't wait to see.

[00:46:47]>> Um, SpaceX, if you are listening, I know you don't, but if you do, please, please, pretty please make the same deal what Jeff Basis is making with NASA. And please show us in the live stream the W the D WD57 live footage. I would like to see the same footage of a booster falling.

[00:47:16]What you are showing when a New Glenn first stage is falling. That would be a such a cool shot. So ple pretty please do that for us.

[00:47:28]Maybe it's not so big ask. So hopefully not.

[00:47:35]>> So yes, uh I show you a couple of pictures. So this is in front of me 2 with the workers and on the right that's the landing ship, I think. Yeah, it's the landing one because only one engine is on. Um also, uh let me find those. So I've got this one. So, this is a good comparison. So, no SLSesque uh colorization this time around. It's less and less SLS. Oh, what a rhyme.

[00:48:09]>> Less and less SLS.

[00:48:11]>> Less SLS.

[00:48:14]>> So, yeah, it's nice to see the progression. And even in flight 11, how much of this white colorization is appearing? If I'm not mistaken, that's the the insulation underneath the tile.

[00:48:27]Correct.

[00:48:28]>> Which means uh the heat ties were uh burnt through and uh yeah of course there were some u burnings on the flight 12 as well but uh which also Elon mentioned and uh acknowledged that uh it wasn't any burn through uh at all on on the entire heat shield uh for the S39.

[00:48:51]It's a very very good news because that's the biggest that was the biggest problem before that uh just the entire not the entire but there were some u points or yeah some areas where the heat shield burnt through and that meant that it it couldn't be uh a long long-term usage but now maybe as as I mentioned they are still not there but they are on a on a good way to find the the ultimate solution for the heat shield because again that's the that's the biggest question mark uh to date.

[00:49:29]>> Mhm.

[00:49:30]>> And and and which is also left for for the engineers how to make the the the heat shield uh a very uh long life or or many many more reusable uh heat shield.

[00:49:45]I mean what they can use more time I don't know not only one or two times but let's say 10 or 15 times >> so on a good way >> most likely that's going to be the the biggest obstacle for sure.

[00:49:59]>> Yeah. Um I think I think they are managing most of the uh challenges but to actually find the heat the find a solution for the heat shield problem. I mean don't get me wrong this is nice but if they I mean at the beginning I can imagine that they're going to have like multiple ships and they going to have time similarly to the Falcon 9 boosters.

[00:50:27]they're just going to have time to actually do the refurbishment of the heat tiles. Um but over the years they definitely uh they definitely need to have a solution for uh for for a permanent heatwal solution um or design because otherwise the rapid reusability is e um >> and you're asking was just because one one minute ago SpaceX just Space has just uh posted a landing landing video just in >> Okay. Okay. Jonathan going to grab it and uh >> Oh, wow.

[00:51:10]>> Okay. Okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[00:51:12]So, let's let's use this moment to actually send the message to SpaceX. So, WD57, please. Cuz it seems like they are listening.

[00:51:24]Spec SpaceX guys if you if you're listening we we want would like to ask for please for the WD57 footages as well. Please >> just share with us nothing it's not necessary to share it with all the world but >> just with us now in the stream.

[00:51:41]>> No that's cool. Okay let's we're going to find the video and we're going to play it in one second. And I just show you a couple of pictures in the meantime about the crew cuz let's not forget that all the workers who are working at Starbase, they are actually making this possible. So without without the engineers, this would never be a reality. So very very uh good. Some people asking what's what's WD57? That's a plane that's filming. Um yeah. Uh, let's watch the landing footage. It seems like Jonathan is ready.

[00:52:19]>> And don't forget the gateway to Mars signed.

[00:52:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:52:25]>> In one second. So, let's see. Wow. Wow.

[00:52:30]>> I think we've been all expecting this to happen.

[00:52:36]And this is It seems like this is real.

[00:52:38]>> Wow. And look at >> Uhhuh. Look at just very at the very very end of the of the descending how it turns and it just maybe that turn for exactly for a good position to to be to be caught on the >> Macazilla. Do you think that Okay, I'm okay. This one cuz cuz from now on what we see here Okay, hold on. I'm not watching the right one. Um, so they spin it around.

[00:53:11]They spin it around. So which is happening here >> now.

[00:53:16]Now this this one this turn I guess that's that's the exact position in turn.

[00:53:21]>> Uhhuh.

[00:53:21]>> Or on on the chopsticks.

[00:53:23]>> And then the rest is just what have happened because they shut down one engine and it starts spinning obviously because the the the second engine is out. And this is the reason why it ended up with the back with the Yeah. laying down on the back and showing the the heat shield.

[00:53:40]>> Yeah.

[00:53:41]>> Uh so the the belly side of the ship, but this is spectacular. Oh my god, this is spectacular. I love it.

[00:53:50]>> Thank you.

[00:53:51]>> Couldn't be better. Thanks, SpaceX.

[00:53:54]>> Yeah.

[00:53:56]All right. And uh the final touch and then we talk a couple of minutes about Okay. So, Gateway sign is completely blown away and uh yeah, luckily it's not a getaway.

[00:54:12]But, uh yeah, we already made a t-shirt uh out of this because our viewers at Spark, they were demanding, let's make a nice name.

[00:54:22]>> Get way.

[00:54:24]>> Well, ish. Anyway, um let's talk about flight. I think let's talk about flight 13 and and the rest because now everybody is speculating that what can we expect uh exactly. So it seems like they need to repeat this mission >> at uh for sure because uh because of the booster and because of the uh the ship for sure >> partial on the ship. Yeah.

[00:54:56]>> Yeah. But when orbit that's the underlining question.

[00:55:03]Uh yeah because they have to again repeat this flight 12. I would say flight 15 maybe because even Elon uh mentioned previously that they need to 100% successful flights with the ships which means let's say it wasn't a 100% successful flight. So they have repeated let's say the next two will be totally successful. That's why if it's still true and if it's still the plan then the flight 15 can be the first orbital flight for ship 42.

[00:55:44]Yeah. If if if the pattern continues that and they will they will use the even the next uh ships uh in the in the serial numbers then the ship 42 will be the first orbital ship. Who knows? But maybe again the 42 will be the answer for everything.

[00:56:05]So and yeah in terms of the flight 13 when can it come? I would say if it's still happening in summer then we can be lucky because now uh of course the analyszis of the flight 12 will take more weeks I think and um of course they have to redesign not redesign but refine the even especially the the flight profile and and the flight softwares and Um but in terms of the hardware they are not they are they are only half half halfway there. So the ship 40 is ready. It had the first cryo um cryogenic proof um tests and uh it's now in the meabate 2 um to to prepared for the static fires. uh but in terms of the poster 20 which will be the pair of the it's it's it's still not completed I mean the the the building or the manufacturing so and that will take much more time to uh in one hand to finish the construction of the booster itself and then uh it will take I guess more turn more u more testing turns not in cryogenic but rather the static fires because as we all know the the booster 19 couldn't have um an entirely normal or or planned because each time the water del system had a problem and that's why they had toort it. So I think uh that's why uh at least two or rather three months uh and and flight 13 can come but it's only my opinion uh and and that means that maybe we have to forget the orbitary fueling test this year so it will be delayed uh for early next year I think. But in terms of the orbital flight, maybe they still can do this year around autumn or maybe u very beginning of winter. Who knows? Of course, I don't know the cadence of the next flights. Hopefully flight 13 will be successful. Maybe don't have to wait again more months for the flight 14. But again they have to um the ability and capability of the Raptor reignition uh in space and then can come only the next step that they require the orbital um flight uh license from the FAA which is taking of course again time when they will it so again that even if the hardwares are there so the prototypes already. It doesn't mean that they can uh ramp up the the cadence of the flights. Unfortunately, >> I think the only way that can that they might bring it to uh flight 14 is if they going to do the next flight, they name it to flight 12.1 and then uh flight 13 and then then 14 is orbit. Uh I've seen some people speculating in the chat uh that the 14 might go to orbit. I would be very cautious. They don't want to make a mistake with going to orbit too soon. If anything happens in orbit with a ship, then it's a big problem. It's a massive problem and they don't want to go into that as well at all because if if something goes wrong and a and a ship remains on orbit gets stuck on orbit which is temporary being stuck but it means that it's going to come back completely uncontrolled and that's going to delay the whole program like a lot and I don't think SpaceX would play with fire. So until they are not 100% sure that they can do that, I don't think they're going to go for orbit. Uh and I think this is how they think as well.

[01:00:29]And although this flight was very good, it's still not good enough for orbit.

[01:00:36]So they need more proof that uh that that it can happen. So I don't think it's too far away. It's just painful that uh that they still need to work on that. But again, I mean, probably our expectations are too high because of this so-called race to the moon because SpaceX is doing their own pace right now. And to be fair, they are not they are not late for from anything. This is a huge rocket. This is a 100% reusable rocket. They are trying to achieve something that nobody is even close to.

[01:01:17]So this is a huge task what they are trying to achieve. Orbital refueling uh fast and rapid um reusability. This is something that's not easy at all >> and and I think they are on a good track. We are all a little bit impatient with them but it's because there is this race that now uh US is created with China just because China is doing pretty good with their own uh lunar program.

[01:01:51]So, I don't know. I think it's getting um and as soon as they hit the that that point that they can go to orbit and they don't have any reliability issues, I'm sure they going to ramp up production.

[01:02:08]Star Factory just going to produce ships like like never before >> and then as soon as they have the enough uh amount of hardware, they going to do that. And also Kennedy KSC is coming uh into the game most likely by the end of the year. They're going to have at least one pad they going to try to launch from. So I think it's coming together.

[01:02:36]It we had a good flight 12 test and let's hope that it's not going to be delayed. The 13 flight 13 is not going to delay too much. So I think all in all we had a pretty good test and pretty wild pictures that Yeah. Thank you SpaceX. Yeah. And uh for last thought um so the transition between block two or version two and three it's it was much much smoother compared to VI or block one and two. Just again think about flight seven and eight what happened there. And now what happened?

[01:03:16]So the difference is very visible >> and and it's a very good very good base to to build from and and and going through this this path or or track they started. So again, yeah, uh for us enthusiasts, it's hard to wait for the next and the next and the next flights, but we have to be patient as Sabi mentioned that uh it's not only a capsule, so it's not only a dragon. if something happens on orbit with this uh currently 52 m and I don't know 250 tons stainless steel um vehicle then it's it's a very very it's a very very hard thing if if something happens and and uh uh and they have to they they have to care. So it's it's not a toy and it's not a video game that if they if they fail then they just load from a previous uh position and they start again because it it can mean lives not only one or two human lives but maybe more if something big trouble happens and that's why they have to be very careful.

[01:04:31]>> Indeed. Um last last uh thought uh next light when and then we are finishing our show. Middle of August.

[01:04:42]>> Middle of August.

[01:04:47]I'm afraid I go with your idea. Definitely. It's Yeah, it's it's going to take some time. They they they still need to finish the next um test articles. test them and let's hope let's surprise us SpaceX.

[01:05:07]>> The earlier the better, but if we think about it realistic then I would say around middle of August but maybe it can be autumn. So not earlier >> to be honest we this is end of May, June, July. Yeah. Yeah. Let's hope sooner than than later. Okay. Um thanks very much for uh staying with us. Hope you enjoyed our show. Uh you can rewatch this on uh what about it plus. Um and then I think we're going to come back in two weeks and let's let's hope that uh we can share more of these amazing footages that SpaceX going to share with us and we're going to have some more uh information regarding to booster 20 and ship 40.

[01:05:55]>> Right.

[01:05:56]>> Yeah.

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