Raoul Mongilardi Speaks Out About His Prediction On Dyson Spheres Coming True | TMZ

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00]Any government who would [music] have this technology, whether it would be secret or whether it would be disclosed, would be the undisputed master of the world. [music] It is true that it could be such a deep state secret even the president isn't aware of it and everything, but [music] Lockheed Martin or any other aviation company is going to be able to hold something that powerful, that secret, [music] that long.

[00:00:19]>> Do you think we'll see convincing evidence of aliens in our lifetime?

[00:00:23]Well, several people are declaring that they have seen that there is evidence of alien biological Hey guys, it's Jackson Buhai with TMZ here. Today, I'm joined with Raul Mancha Lordi. Uh, he's a science fiction author and has appeared on the Discovery Channel along with NASA scientists due to his uh, conception of Dyson spheres, which we're learning today might be a little more accurate than the average person might think. Raul, thank you so much for joining me today.

[00:00:51]>> Thanks for having me. Tell me your story. This is so interesting. Tell me about Dyson spheres and how you could conceive what they look like and why you think they're so accurate to what we're seeing in the release of these UAP files today. The UAP file disclosures are gigantic and we've seen this coming for many, many years. The credible sources that are involved with it now are beyond dispute. You know, these are extremely educated, uh, very highly placed military commanders, experts in all kinds of uh, gigantic science and everything. So, we're seeing now just gigantic disclosure in this and we've actually been seeing it for a longer than we think. There are pictures that were taken as far as 1870. There's Renaissance paintings that look very strange that have kind of UFOs in them and things. So, where Dyson spheres are concerned, Dyson spheres were first postulated by a scientist called Freeman Dyson and then they were later used in a story by Olaf Stapledon. So, I extrapolated upon that in Next to the Gods and in my book, in the first of my books which came out in 2012, um, I proposed a Dyson sphere that surrounds a a very large solar system and it's perforated, okay? So that it has to release some of the cuz there's stars within the Dyson sphere creating heat and radiation. So if you have an enclosed space like that with like a microwave, so you would be gaining all of this free energy incredible amounts of free and non-polluting energy, but you'd also have to exchange some of that. So you'd have to excrete some of that out into space. And if that were to happen, you would have a gigantic uh blinking happening like, you know, an artificial star.

[00:02:33]So then in 2015, years after I published next to the gods, Tabby's star uh NASA designated KIC 8462852 um was seen to behave precisely the same way. Not a little bit like but actually the same light with this gigantic fluctuation light almost 20%. So put that into context, if you are standing in the deepest shadow of a say a solar eclipse, right? You feel the coolness and the and the darkness, birds start chirping cuz odd, whatever, and that's only a 5 to 7% fluctuation in light. So a 20% to have a 20% all the time, that's like turning on a light switch. You only have an artificial control of you see what I mean? Mhm. So when we when we talked about Tabby's star being uh conceivably being a Dyson sphere or a level five civilization, immediately it was postulated that well, you know, maybe it's a dust cloud that's circulating that's obscuring this light.

[00:03:42]But I want to ask you a question, you know, in in the entertainment business and in most things we know that when you're controlling light outside, you're constantly adjusting light light meters, bounce boards, everything. You don't You know, natural light doesn't behave like a light switch. Every time you're actually in control of light completely is when you are in an interior environment.

[00:04:04]So, my question to that has always been, "Well, if it's a dust cloud, why is it still always rhythmically at 20%? Mhm.

[00:04:12]Be 12% or 60% or Have you ever seen light come through a cloud at the same rate all the time? No. Doesn't make sense, right? So, I I want to make sure for our viewers that I've that I've got this right. Your your reference of a solar eclipse, when the moon is slowly moving in front of the sun, that's a 5 to 7% fluctuation in light where the Earth slowly gets dark. But, you're talking about a 0 to 20% fluctuation.

[00:04:38]And is that going off and on, off and on like a light switch like you said? Yes.

[00:04:41]That's the That's the thing with Tabby's star with KIC 8462852. It behaves with a huge differentiation fluctuation in light.

[00:04:50]>> What do you think the the mystery is behind this? What do you think is causing that? Do you think it's another civilization out there that we can't comprehend? Well, you know, level five civilizations are things that we are are civilizations that we could probably not comprehend anyway. Just like with the UAPs and UFOs. If you have hyper velocity craft that are you know, going at 30, 40,000 miles an hour, changing degrees, 90° angles, accelerating, disappearing, we have nothing nothing like that in that we can conceive of in our technology that behaves that way.

[00:05:25]Um and you know, people have said, "Well, you know, they're probably really highly experimental aircraft like the Tic Tac video that Commander Fravor, you know, spoke of at the court congress with the Nimitz the disclosure."

[00:05:38]But, the thing is, think about it logically. If you're going to have a craft that can behave this way, and you're not going to tell your military people about it because you want to see how they'll react, okay? And then you have it attack an air group uh you know, commander or a you know, an aircraft carrier with you know, pilots. Aren't you inviting disaster? What if they fire on each other? People would be killed, all kinds of things would happen. In any kind of really situational military tactic uh exploration like this, each party always knows what's going on with the other.

[00:06:16]You know, in war games or whatever you want to call them because you don't want to risk human life and you don't want to risk billions of dollars worth of equipment, also.

[00:06:25]So, um it you know, that kind of argument kind of falls apart. And now we're seeing more and more of this just like undisputed uh as we see a lot of people are talking now that it looks like it's going to be a steady flow now. It's going to continue and continue.

[00:06:41]Um it's not going to be a societal collapse. Um people are ready for this.

[00:06:46]>> What do you mean it's not going to it's a steady flow of what? What's not going to be a societal >> Steady flow of information, continued information, continued disclosures.

[00:06:55]Um you know, people are waiting for quote unquote, you know, the the gold, you know, the the absolute indisputable uh pictures of actual craft being investigated or perhaps alien biologics.

[00:07:08]>> I'm glad you bring up the the most recent files that were released. Um there were some that I saw to me personally at least that just looked a little like I could make them in Photoshop or MS Paint. I mean, do you subscribe to the possibility that the government is releasing these files to direct our attention elsewhere?

[00:07:27]Well, it it it certainly has been done.

[00:07:30]Misdirection is part of it. But also misdirection is employed in other two in in order to debunk this whole thing. I mean, they've been harassed, people have disappeared, people have been pushed out of their jobs. People have been laughed at for centuries with the for you know, for centuries with this and you know, even burned at the stake back in the past. But the thing is, are there certain videos that are ridiculous?

[00:07:54]Absolutely. There's some that I've seen.

[00:07:57]I couldn't agree with you more that are just, you know, like, wait a minute, you know, this looks like a 1950s movie.

[00:08:02]There are some also that are extremely hard to really hard to to to dispute. And as you begin to put them through layering and everything like, you know, you begin to see that they have not actually been doctored. There's no evidence of being doctored. Um so uh just as in any kind of discovery or world situation, whenever there's something this big, you're going to have hoaxers, right? You're going to have people who want to throw off the scent.

[00:08:32]They're going to have people who are going to disseminate and try to you know, obfuscate the truth. Um it's going to happen with everything. I mean, every major every major uh discovery has always been as uh as someone once said, you know, for every man who dreams of the future, there are a thousand appointed to guard the past, So, you know, we have we have a you know, we have a like a way of doing things and you know, the way our military industrial complex, our everything is set up, religion, society, everything. Very very you know, on the surface a very delicate thing, but actually people are much more resilient than that, much more evolutionarily, I mean, at capable of evolving than that.

[00:09:17]Is there a a file or a piece of evidence that stuck out to you the most that you think the public should be paying closer attention to? Well, I think that one of the most astounding ones was actually Commander Fravor and the Nimitz group uh of the Tic Tac. Under the Tic Tac thing?

[00:09:39]Yeah.

[00:09:40]This was This was so indisputable. This was not just him, but this was an air group. So, my father was an air wing commander. And uh I'm very familiar with the level of people involved with this, the training, the, you know, these are people of of of impeccable character and intelligence.

[00:09:58]>> Right.

[00:09:59]Right.

[00:10:00]Um so, when you scramble an air wing out to go and find something Right. and you have a Nimitz carrier group This happened with a Nimitz carrier group off of San Diego.

[00:10:10]You're having an entire military exercise going on there. There was this billions billions of dollars worth of equipment and thousands of lives going on here in what is already a dangerous, you know, exercise. It's already a dangerous.

[00:10:25]So, um when they were able to capture that, not just him, but the other officers, uh the other aviators Right.

[00:10:35]who were able to get it actually in the scope for a while, which created the very famous Tic Tac video. You hear them talking about it, and you see it in the scopes, and you see that it's actually an object that they have a focus on, and they're following it for a while. Right.

[00:10:49]It's not a weather balloon.

[00:10:51]That's not a an image. That's not a radar reflection. That's not um a a shadow. Um because you can either see it or you can't. But what if, you know, I think when you look at the evolution of technology such as AI, um you can only begin to imagine um what these military companies, the technology that they are producing. I mean, what's the likelihood that this is just a multi-billion dollar project from Lockheed Martin that they're keeping so under wraps? Um it could, you know, what if that technology is so ahead of its time that it could mean the difference between winning and losing a war, and that's exactly the reason why it's been kept away from the public. That's a really good question, and and here's the thing. Um if any government at least in terms of how I perceive it um who would have this technology whether it would be secret or whether it would be disclosed would be the undisputed master of the world. There wouldn't be any reason for wars. Whoever would have that kind of technology, that kind of speed and power and and energy we wouldn't be able to there wouldn't be any conflict going on between between any other military uh uh nations on the Earth.

[00:12:13]>> Well, assuming we were the only ones that had it.

[00:12:14]>> Even more so. If the United States and Lockheed Martin have that kind of craft Mhm. that they're doing, first of all, that technology, even as a drone technology, is so fast and so explosively difficult to control that it doesn't make sense for even anything that we know of. I mean, the Blackbird SR-71, you know, can't even do this kind of thing. And that's a very dated aircraft. Um so it it it it it it doesn't it kind of falls apart with the argument. And then when you look at Japan which has just announced that they have UAP footage um Russia and the United States have collaborated many times over in the past after the Cold War, before the World War, even since World War II, seeing things, reporting to each other, like, is that you? Because if it's you, we're going to shoot it down. No, no, no, it's not us. Um this happened a lot. Also, um you may be familiar with the Malmstrom Air Force Base incident that happened in 1967.

[00:13:21]Um and this is when a a object descended over This is a a nuclear base, right? It has warheads.

[00:13:29]Intercontinental IBS missiles, intercontinental intercontinental ballistic missiles, sorry. And this object came down and shut the whole grid down for almost a half hour.

[00:13:42]So, uh there's no way that that any of us would do this uh without first clearing it or being involved because uh again, uh the mishap, you know, things could go very very very very wrong very quickly.

[00:14:01]Um and so you don't just shut down nuclear missile silos um and turn off all the power just to see, you know, what what might happen. It just doesn't make sense.

[00:14:11]Um and uh you know, so all of the people involved with this, you know, like David Grusch, uh Commander Fravor, Luis Elizondo, um Robert Bigelow, um uh uh several other senators and and people who are have sort of impeccable quality are all really standing behind this.

[00:14:33]And it is true, of course, that it could be such a deep state secret that even the president isn't aware of it and everything, but Lockheed Martin is not going to be able to hold something or any other aviation company is going to be able to hold something that powerful, that secret, that long. Do you think we'll see uh biologically convincing evidence of aliens in our lifetime? Well, several people are uh in in this same group of impeccable gentlemen and ladies are are declaring that they have seen it.

[00:15:07]Mhm. They have actually seen this. That there there is evidence um of alien biological I was talking to somebody the other day and they said, "Well, you know, but if these aliens are capable of interdimensional flight, um and capable of interdimensional visitation to Earth, why would they be subject to us? Why In other words, why would they be vulnerable to us? Well, first of all, any interdimensional flight is risky inherently. I mean, taking a a rocket ship into space, look what happened to Challenger, look what happened to the Apollo mission. Those guys in Apollo 13, they hardly got home. They almost froze to death. There was the other godforsaken Apollo mission that burned up on the pad and incinerated the you know, the astronauts. Challenger exploded at launch. Columbia, you know, disintegrated returning to Earth. So, this is inherently extraordinary dangerous life to live anyway. I know that from being a Navy brat. Um and so uh if you're traveling interdimensionally, well, the risks must be 10,000 times that risk, right? And uh our weapons are also pretty formidable. I mean, we're not, you know, just throwing sticks and stones, you know, like cavemen at a metal ship. We have nuclear technology, we have weapons, we have lasers, we have high-impact velocity. Um so, we could have easily taken down some of these things and and probably uh disabled them or they were disabled somehow upon entering Earth's orbit or who knows.

[00:16:48]>> Right, but there there are trillions of galaxies, you know, and I think that the analogy that I always use is, you know, it going to an alien and saying, "Hey, go and find Earth in the universe." It's like me telling you to go into the middle of the ocean and saying, "I want you to find this one specific atom. And if you can bring that back up for me, you've done your job."

[00:17:09]What what do you say to that? How how what's the likelihood that aliens have actually visited Earth? Well, you know, Arthur C. Clarke, the famous uh science fiction author, um was asked one time and he said, "Well, they probably haven't and they kept on going."

[00:17:23]Because we're so destructive and so wasteful of our wonderful planet. But, there's the other side of the coin with that.

[00:17:30]Earth is so rich a biologically diversive environment, right? There's There's We We've found other exoplanets that kind of might have similar uh atmospheres to us, but we're not sure that they do. But, Earth, we know, is incredibly diverse. I mean, wood is the most valuable uh commodity in the universe that we know of right now.

[00:17:55]And if your analogy about going to the ocean, we know more about space than we know about the depths of the Mariana Trench. You know, if we were to go down there right now, it would certainly be an alien environment for us were we to survive it. We would see creatures that have no capacity whatsoever for understanding about life as we know it.

[00:18:14]So, um I think I think that uh that it's it's highly it's highly uh I mean, is it a big pond? Yes, it's it's the it's the ultimate pond. It's infinite.

[00:18:30]But, on the other hand, we don't know our history. We don't know who or how we really came to be here. We don't really know how and why our our our planet is such a gigantic biodiversity. Were we created by god-like aliens? Were Were are we connected uh with other beings who who know that we don't know? Um But, we also it would be a terrible waste of space if we're the only ones here.

[00:18:59]Mhm.

[00:18:59]Um Nature abhors a vacuum. And if we're the only ones even within 20 or 30 light-years, when you consider, as you mentioned, you know, the trillions of galaxies and billions of suns and solar systems out there.

[00:19:14]Um it just doesn't make any sense that we would be we would be so alone. Do you think that aliens are living here on Earth? I never felt or sensed anything like that.

[00:19:25]I think this whole reptile thing and all this is just, you know, science fiction actually bad science fiction. Well, it's good to know you draw the line at at certain points. I mean there's there's things that I just feel are like pulp pulp movie.

[00:19:39]Interesting. Under watch is interesting to see, uh but there isn't really any, you know, I I know do I believe in every credible story? No, like, you know, no, I don't. Uh I think we have to especially be very uh you know, studious these days about looking at empirical evidence and all kinds of things like that. I also, um you know, when we laugh it off just because we don't have the proof that we particularly want um we're making a terrible mistake in science in scientific discovery. Remember penicillin was discovered by accident.

[00:20:17]Um and and a lot of things were discovered in a way that we were we were looking we were looking for one thing and then this happened on the side.

[00:20:28]Raul, can you tell me the name of your book and where they can go and buy it?

[00:20:32]The books are called Next to the Gods. It's books 1, 2, 3, and 4 and we're on Amazon currently.

[00:20:39]>> Raul, you've been absolutely fantastic.

[00:20:41]Thank you so much for joining me. You can find Raul's book Next to the Gods on Amazon all four versions are on there.

[00:20:48]Make sure to go check it out. Uh again, Raul, you're amazing. Thanks so much for joining me. Jackson, thank you. Great interview. Thank you so much. I enjoyed it, people. Thank you.