What About Colin Albert? The End of Innocence. The Murder of a Cop & Framing of An Innocent Woman

Added: 2026-05-21

[00:00:02]And um were you essentially waiting up for him?

[00:00:05]>> Oh yes. Yep.

[00:00:06]>> And is that sort of common practice?

[00:00:08]>> Yes. I do not go to bed until my kids are home.

[00:00:12]>> Is that common practice?

[00:00:15]>> Yes.

[00:00:18]>> Does she realize that she just shook her head no as she was saying yes?

[00:00:24]>> I do not go to bed until my kids are home.

[00:00:29]Never mind. This is uncontracted and very absolutist, which is basically always problematic.

[00:00:36]Let's think about what we know to be true about Julie's children.

[00:00:40]>> Uh, my oldest, Christopher, is 25. My second son, Colin, is 20, and my youngest son, Dylan, is 16.

[00:00:48]>> Um, where where do they live? Do they live with you?

[00:00:50]>> They all live with me. Yes. at this time because this sentence is spoken in the present tense. I do not go to bed until my kids are home.

[00:01:02]She has three sons, 25, 20, and 16 years old.

[00:01:15]And one of those sons is Colin Albert.

[00:01:22]Let's review what we know about Colin, shall we?

[00:01:26]>> Let's [ __ ] let's destroy them all.

[00:01:28]Cheers.

[00:01:31]>> Yo, you're boys. I will beat all your asses. I promise you I will [ __ ] you all up.

[00:01:40]>> Pull up, [ __ ] >> [ __ ] you now. [ __ ] you, [ __ ] Boy, you knocked out.

[00:02:03]>> [ __ ] you.

[00:02:07]Fact. If what she's saying is true, that she doesn't go to bed until all her kids are home, Julie Albert might be the most sleepdeprived person in Canton, Massachusetts.

[00:02:24]>> And is there another common practice as far as when your kids come home, where do they go when they first come in?

[00:02:34]They immediately will always come in the door, maybe grab a water out of the fridge, and come upstairs and give me a kiss good night and tell me that they're home.

[00:02:44]So, let's I can't even get the words out.

[00:03:09]I'm sorry.

[00:03:12]It hurts.

[00:03:17]These proceedings are here to see that justice is done.

[00:03:23]And justice is, as any reasonable person would tell you, the finding of the truth. Only we have a problem here.

[00:03:31]>> I see danger in us. They know the night.

[00:03:43]We going to let it out. Now, given the fact that every other detail that we have uncovered in this case has come from the witnesses themselves, let's see if we can figure out once and for all whether Colin was in the house at the time of John O'Keefe's death.

[00:04:11]Now before we get into today's content, let me start by letting you know that the opinions contained within are just that they are my opinions and you are free to take them or leave them.

[00:04:29]>> And as you were walking in um who anyone else beyond your son and his two friends >> and my uh nephew Colin?

[00:04:37]>> That'd be Colin Albert. Is that correct?

[00:04:39]>> Yes. Chris and Julie's son, Colin.

[00:04:41]>> And uh did you have at that time um any kind of curfew or time that you had to be home uh from from your parents?

[00:04:50]>> Usually around like right around before midnight.

[00:04:55]>> And so was it like a hard fast like 12:00? If you're not here, you're grounded or was it sort of around that time?

[00:05:01]>> Just around just around midnight.

[00:05:02]>> Well, I'm not sure exactly who left at what point. Um, but I know that Catherine Dudy, Emily Fabiano, Mary Kent, and um, Courtney Alba left. Um, I would say and Colin left like before midnight.

[00:05:16]>> You can say a lot of things about Julie Nagel, but Smooth is not one of them.

[00:05:20]>> So, about what time would it have been that you left?

[00:05:23]>> 12:10.

[00:05:24]>> Now, with reference to uh, Colin Albert, do you know about what time he left?

[00:05:28]>> M, I would probably say 11:30, 11:45, >> probably. But do you recall specifically seeing him leave from the house?

[00:05:36]>> Yes.

[00:05:37]>> And which door would he have left on?

[00:05:39]>> I'm I'm not sure exactly what door, but >> Oops. Ooh, that one definitely hurt.

[00:05:48]>> I know someone did pick him up, but I I'm not sure who did. So, >> no. No, not smooth at all.

[00:05:55]>> Fair view. Was Colin Albert still there?

[00:05:58]>> I don't remember. Uh, do you have any recollection of those people being in the same room at the same time on night?

[00:06:05]>> I don't remember.

[00:06:07]>> And, uh, same question in regard to Colin Albert. Do you recall whether or not he was there or in the house at the time that Nicole and Caitlin came?

[00:06:15]>> I don't remember.

[00:06:16]>> Uh, you never saw Colin Albert physically walk out the door, did you?

[00:06:20]>> I don't remember. So, if you had any doubts whatsoever that I don't remember is a deception tag for Sarah Levenson, this should alleviate those doubts because whether or not you see somebody leave a house is either something you saw or you did not see. And for Ms. Sarah, she elects to just plead the fifth all the way. Now, I have to say it's a little suspect that the one topic that Ms. Levenson elects to plead the fifth on across the board unilaterally is the topic of when Colin is in the house.

[00:07:11]>> And so those people that you've described, did they all come at the same time or did they come in sort of a staggered fashion or how did they arrive?

[00:07:18]Brian's father and Mr. Higgins arrived first, but they all arrived within five minutes of each other.

[00:07:29]>> And uh when you walk in, where was Colin in relation to your son and and the the two girls that he was with?

[00:07:36]>> Um he was just kind of standing in the kitchen with um Brian and the um two girls. They were at Brian and the two girls were at the kitchen table and Colin was just kind of standing there.

[00:07:46]>> Um, and beyond the people that you've described as far as seeing at 34 Fairview Road, fair to say you don't recall anybody being introduced or identified as Colin Albert?

[00:07:55]>> No.

[00:07:57]>> And from the time that you arrived home, uh, how long was Colin at your house?

[00:08:02]>> No more than 5 minutes.

[00:08:05]>> And where did he go?

[00:08:07]>> Uh, he left. Well, this is a pretty significant screwup for Brian Albert because unprompted he tells us that Colin left. And as you know, left is often an indication of conflict, which means there's a good chance that Brian Albert just told us Colin left after a conflict.

[00:08:36]>> Call what days of the week they were.

[00:08:38]Um, I do not.

[00:08:41]>> Uh, if you recall whether it was weekday, weekend, >> weekend.

[00:08:45]>> So, he does remember what days these were.

[00:08:49]>> Um, I do not remember who was there. I do not remember.

[00:08:55]No, I do not remember.

[00:08:56]>> Let me ask you this. Did you walk? Did you drive? Did you get a ride?

[00:08:59]>> I got a ride. Do >> you recall who you got a ride from?

[00:09:02]>> No.

[00:09:02]>> Do you recall how you got from Mike's house to your uncle's house?

[00:09:07]I believe Alli McCabe.

[00:09:09]>> And so your memory is that Alli McCabe gave you a ride from Mike's house to the house on Fairview.

[00:09:15]>> From what I remember, yes.

[00:09:17]>> So what do you think Alli's going to say? Did she pick up Colin from Mike's house and take him to 34 Fair View?

[00:09:25]>> What if anything were you doing first that evening?

[00:09:28]>> The question is, what, if anything, were you doing first that evening?

[00:09:36]Um, it started with a team dinner at my house. Um, the hockey team came over.

[00:09:43]Given the fact that Miss Ally is not recalling a fact from memory right here, my guess is she gets a little distracted trying to remember what it was she's supposed to say as the answer to this question and then forgets what the question was and continues to talk about what she did throughout the whole night.

[00:10:07]You'll note, however, she doesn't mention anything about Mike's house.

[00:10:13]Huh, how strange.

[00:10:16]>> We had dinner. Um, then I went to my sister's basketball game at the high Ken High School. Um, then I was hanging out with two of my friends. We were driving around. Um, then the end the night ended with me driving Colin Albert home.

[00:10:32]>> What we're seeing from Ally is like a combination of consciousness, of guilt, and paranoia.

[00:10:40]They obviously made a gross miscalculation tasking ally with the responsibility of Collins alibi.

[00:10:56]Oh my god.

[00:10:57]>> You drove the two friends that you were with earlier home and then you went somewhere else.

[00:11:01]>> Yes, I believe. Yes.

[00:11:02]>> Is at that point did you get a text phone call?

[00:11:04]>> Yes. Ooh, big one-sided shoulder shrug there.

[00:11:09]>> You drove the two friends that you were with earlier home and then you went somewhere else.

[00:11:13]>> Yes, I believe. Yes.

[00:11:14]>> Is at that point did you get a text from Colin?

[00:11:16]>> Yes. So, this very definite yes from Ally really means well yeah it was something like that.

[00:11:24]>> And did you see uh Miss McCabe outside?

[00:11:27]>> Yes.

[00:11:28]>> When you arrived at the residence at 34 Fairview Road uh you pulled into the driveway. Is that correct?

[00:11:35]>> I believe so.

[00:11:38]>> And just so it's clear, I believe so does not equal a yes. Of course, this is a reduction in commitment. So, she has not told us that she pulled into the driveway. Do not let her fool you.

[00:11:57]>> You come out, that's in the driveway, correct?

[00:11:59]>> Correct. when he comes out of the house about how long a period of time was it from the time that you texted him here to the time that he comes out to the car?

[00:12:06]>> I'm not sure. A few minutes.

[00:12:08]>> Between 30 seconds and a minute, I'd say.

[00:12:10]>> And after you texted that to Colin, he comes out of the house. Is that correct?

[00:12:14]>> Correct.

[00:12:15]>> And when you came out of the house, uh um do you recall which door you came out at that point?

[00:12:21]>> The side door next to the garage.

[00:12:22]>> Uh there were two doors in the front of the house. Is that right?

[00:12:24]>> Yes.

[00:12:25]>> And do you know which of the two doors Colin came out of?

[00:12:27]>> Um no, I'm not sure. And when you came out that door, who if anyone did you encounter as you were coming out?

[00:12:33]>> Um, as I was walking out, I saw my uncle Brian and my aunt Nicole.

[00:12:38]>> And uh, you were going out and what were they doing?

[00:12:40]>> They were coming in.

[00:12:43]>> Lights on in the house. That's it.

[00:12:45]>> Where was your vehicle in relation to the house?

[00:12:47]>> In the driveway, >> I believe in the driveway on the left side. Not entirely sure. I just believe that. Not entirely sure. I just believe that. Do you recall whether or not it was parked on the left side or the right side of the driveway?

[00:13:01]>> I do not remember.

[00:13:02]>> He gets into what part of the car? Front passenger seat.

[00:13:05]>> Yes, I believe.

[00:13:06]>> Which part of the vehicle did you get into?

[00:13:08]>> That I do not remember.

[00:13:09]>> What if any observations did you make of him uh in regards to his sobriety as far as uh what if any observations did you make in respect to that?

[00:13:19]>> Normal.

[00:13:22]>> Normal.

[00:13:25]Um, front seat, passenger side. Does that sound right?

[00:13:29]>> Could have been that. Yeah.

[00:13:30]>> Whether or not there was anybody else in the vehicle at the time that you got it.

[00:13:32]>> I do not remember that. And >> how would you describe his uh demeanor when he came out and he got into the car?

[00:13:39]>> Normal. Normal.

[00:13:41]>> Do you recall whether or not there was anybody else in the vehicle at the time that she had dropped you off at that location?

[00:13:47]>> I do not remember that either.

[00:13:48]>> And at any point in time in the evening when you were there at 34 Fairview Road, was Colin Alba there at any point? No, he was not.

[00:13:55]>> You didn't see him that night at all?

[00:13:57]>> Never saw him.

[00:13:59]>> By now, if you've been listening to me for any length of time at all, I don't even have to say it, you already know.

[00:14:08]This is total and complete [ __ ] >> Ever get in an argument about girls? No.

[00:14:15]He doesn't say never. He says no. This is what everyone's been waiting to see.

[00:14:19]Is there any way that we can definitively say that we know something from this statement? And the answer is yes. Yes, we can. Because we know that no and never mean two different things to Colin Albert. He is lying when he says never like everybody else. And sometimes he's lying when he says no, but sometimes he's being honest. He's lying when he says no if he's had a chance to rehearse it. But this is a truthful no. There is a difference between a truthful no and a never. So, did you ever get in an argument about girls? I love this because Loi is trying to be funny and he's trying to diffuse the situation and he's trying to throw in another negative question in there and try and lighten a mood for Colin Albert and all he does is give us definitive confirmation that Colin Albert could have said no here but didn't. He chose not to say no. There is a difference between did you ever get in an argument about girls and were you ever threatened by John or did you ever threaten John? Okay. Any animist or any conflict that you can recall ever between yourself and Mr. or O'Keefe never which means yes there's animous between them to be clear that night that you were at 34 Fairview Road at your uncle's house January 28th and 29th at any point in time did you see John O'Keeffe at the house come into the house around that house at any point in time that you never so now we get confirmation that Colin Albert did see him go into the house >> obviously you know your daughter your oldest daughter Albert correct >> yes I do >> and at any point in time when you were at 34 care of you. Did you see uh her or vehicle or or anything? Did you have any knowledge that that your daughter Ally was there at the time that you were there?

[00:15:53]>> No, she was not.

[00:15:54]>> She wasn't there. You didn't see her there. You didn't know if she had been there before you or anything like that.

[00:15:58]>> Correct. Correct.

[00:16:01]>> Oh, Matt. So busted there. In case you missed it, what happened there was when Adam Lai was asking Matt about whether or not he had seen Ally, he was very clear and dismissive like, "Nope, she definitely wasn't there." And then because of that, Lai has to ask a more clarifying question to remind Matt that she was supposed to have been there just before him to pick up Colin. And then Matt's like, "Oh [ __ ] uh, I screwed up." And he doesn't know whether he should try to correct it or not. And so he makes this face like, "Oh, I screwed up." and leaves it alone and lets Lai deal with it.

[00:16:50]>> Um, as I was walking out, I saw my uncle Brian and my aunt Nicole.

[00:16:54]>> But you never saw him leave.

[00:16:55]>> No, >> you didn't see him leave the house and you didn't see him get picked up by anybody.

[00:16:59]>> I did not.

[00:16:59]>> You didn't see a car outside waiting for him, correct?

[00:17:02]>> I didn't. No, >> it was literally I was coming in. I I think we almost bumped into each other.

[00:17:09]I said I didn't realize he was there. I said, "Hey, what are you doing here?"

[00:17:14]Isn't the whole reason why they're having friends over this night to celebrate Big Bri's 23rd birthday?

[00:17:24]What do you mean? What is he doing there? Um, so, so when I first walked in, I actually had seen my cousin Colin.

[00:17:32]Um, he was standing in the foyer area.

[00:17:34]Um, and I remember I said to him like, "Oh, hi. What are you doing?" Sometimes their [ __ ] offends me because it's like, do you really think we're that stupid or are you just that stupid?

[00:17:46]Sometimes it's hard to tell with these people.

[00:17:49]>> His existence at the house was hidden despite the fact that Steve Scalin somehow knew he was there that night.

[00:17:54]Colin claimed that he was home in bed by 12:30.

[00:17:57]>> Time is extremely sensitive, extremely sensitive to Chris Albert, whose son is Colin. You testified on direct examination today, I believe, that you thought you got home between 12:05 and 12:10 a.m. on January 29th. Correct?

[00:18:18]>> It's what I remember.

[00:18:19]>> Um, if I suggested to you that you didn't even leave the bar until 12:30.

[00:18:25]>> Watch here Chris Albert as he looks to Adam Lai for an objection.

[00:18:30]>> Didn't even leave the bar until 12:13 a.m. Would you quarrel with that? Who came home first? Uh, your husband Christopher or your son Colin?

[00:18:39]>> My husband.

[00:18:40]>> Timeline. Timeline. Timeline. And if you're uh being deceptive, you want to avoid the timeline wherever possible.

[00:18:50]Don't be committed to it. Always be vague.

[00:18:53]Never quite remember.

[00:18:56]Um, would be your strategy if you wanted to deceive. Do >> you know about what time that was?

[00:19:01]>> I want to say about after 12 maybe. um 1210 around there.

[00:19:08]>> Well, there's Chris Albert in the bar talking to John O'Keefe and Matt McCabe at 12:10.

[00:19:15]>> Uh do you know who that person is who's leaving the bar at this point at 12:13 and 43 a.m.?

[00:19:22]>> I believe it's me.

[00:19:23]>> So, according to Google Maps, this is approximately a 7inut walk. 7 minutes later gets Chris home at approximately 12:21.

[00:19:40]I always um tell my mom and my dad that I'm home and usually go up to their bedroom, give them a hug night, tell them I love them, and then go down to bed. How long was it after your husband came home that your son called Colin?

[00:20:03]>> Um 10 to 15 minutes.

[00:20:05]>> So if dad gets home at 12:21 and Colin gets home 10 to 15 minutes later.

[00:20:17]What time does Colin get home? Everybody >> know about what time was it that you that you came into the house?

[00:20:25]>> I want to say around 12:20.

[00:20:29]You know, Colin, I want to say a lot of things, too. Like, I want to say I won a billion dollars on a scratch ticket, but that doesn't make it true, does it?

[00:20:43]>> 10 minutes after you got home, he opened the bedroom door.

[00:20:51]>> See, this is the alibi.

[00:20:52]>> I think that's what I said. Yeah.

[00:20:54]>> Do you want to stick with that?

[00:20:56]I'm just trying to recollect what I, you know, thinking it over. So, >> um, what the was that?

[00:21:09]>> I'm just trying to recollect what I, you know, thinking it over. So >> what?

[00:21:24]>> Okay, this isn't just deception.

[00:21:27]This is total and complete cognitive overload.

[00:21:34]Total and complete.

[00:21:39]Holy.

[00:21:40]This is the lie of a lifetime type of sensitivity from Chris Albert. And I will tell you, we do not see anything like this from Chris at any other time.

[00:21:54]Well, at least not on this day. And what is he being questioned about here?

[00:22:01]Collins alibi.

[00:22:04]And he knows that if he moves the goalposts back, if their timeline is off, then it gives Colin plenty of time to have been at the house when Jon was there.

[00:22:16]>> Timeline. Timeline. Timeline.

[00:22:19]>> Yet at 12:33, minutes after Reed left 34 Fear View and John O'Kee's phone moved for the last time, Colin called a friend named Aaron Bey. She didn't answer as kids at that age almost never call each other. And when she contacted him the next day, he goes, "Never mind."

[00:22:36]>> You know, it finally dawned on me what this call to Aaron Bey probably was.

[00:22:44]Doesn't it seem like Jen has this weird fixation with Tom Bey on this night?

[00:22:52]>> You called Tom Bey.

[00:22:53]>> Yes, I did Tom Bey. Oh, and Tom Bey. I'm sorry. If you ask me who I spoke to, I'm always going to tell you I spoke to Miss Reed and Julie. I called Julie Albert and I called Tom Bey. The waterfall Julie then Tom Bey calling to my sister wasn't as po important in my ingrained in my mind at that point. Well, when you think about the timeline, it makes sense that Colin was laying the foundation, trying to create an alibi.

[00:23:26]Remember, they were trying to make the case that they didn't know where John O'Keeffe was. And if Tom Bey lived in the neighborhood, then they could make it look like they couldn't find John. He was supposed to come in, but he never did. Hey, Aaron. Um, I know this is a weird question, but is John O'keefee over at your house? Colin is calling Aaron at the same time as Jennifer is trying to get in touch with John, texting, and calling his phone to make it look like he never came in the house.

[00:24:04]And that's why the next day when Jen is essentially trying to do exactly the same thing before Karen goes to the house, the first person she thinks to call is Tom Bey.

[00:24:20]What a coincidence.

[00:24:23]Part of their initial panicked strategy to make it look like the guy never came in the house. Of course, when everybody soers up and calms down, this idea seems like a really bad one. For telling people this story, Erin Bey and her father, Tom Bey, were harassed and ostracized by adults in the can community.

[00:24:49]>> Keep walking.

[00:24:51]>> Just keep walking. Nobody wants everybody around you, right?

[00:24:59]>> Be by yourself.

[00:25:01]Fall off.

[00:25:03]Jennifer McCabe and her friend Jill Thomas reportedly told 17-year-old Aaron Bey to quote, "Put a dick in your mouth instead of talking so much."

[00:25:12]>> Now, I know that Karen's attorneys are not including Colin in any of their lawsuits, and I get it. There may not be the kind of evidence that they want that's super cut and dry to say whether Colin was in that house. But I am telling you that I, Samantha Beningo, who evaluates things almost entirely based on their testimonies, I can tell you that Colin Albert was in that house when John O'Keeffe was there.

[00:25:39]It is without question. You can be sure Colin was in that house. No question.

[00:25:49]>> Why would it matter if he was inside and John O'Keefe was killed outside by Karen Reed? Why did he call Aaron Bey, a girl he wasn't dating, out of the blue at 12:33? Why did his family try to silence the Bees?

[00:26:00]>> And why is this kid always lying?

[00:26:04]>> Colin also testified he'd never been in a fight before. Shortly after that, the internet found three videos of him fighting, proving that he lied about that, too. Why life you have nothing to hide?

[00:26:17]It is the defense councelor's duty to protect the rights of the individual as it is the prosecution's duty to uphold and defend the laws of the state.

[00:26:30]Justice for all.

[00:26:34]Only we have a problem here.

[00:26:37]>> I live inside my own world of Makebelie.

[00:26:43]Kids screaming in the crales.

[00:26:47]Profanities.

[00:26:49]I see the world through ice covered in ink and bleach.

[00:26:55]Cross out the ones who hurt my cries and watch me weep.

[00:27:01]I love everything.

[00:27:04]Fire spreading all around my room. My world's so bright, it's hard to breathe.

[00:27:11]But that's all right.

[00:27:20]This is me reminding you to like this video.

[00:27:28]Like the video. I promise if you get up right now and you like this video, I will never sing again.

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