The speaker cleverly uses the opponent's own scientific criteria to create a logical trap, forcing them to either validate a rival faith or admit their argument is flawed. It is a sharp demonstration of how empirical evidence can be a double-edged sword when used to prove exclusive spiritual truths.
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He said Miracles Prove Christianity, Argument BACKFIRES!Added:
So eucharistic miracles come in many forms. You would agree, correct? There's a lot of evidences that the Catholic Church uses. So let's see. You're Catholic, correct?
>> Mhm.
>> All right. Are you Roman Catholic?
>> Um, yeah.
>> Okay. Let's see if we're going to remain consistent and let's talk about some of the miracles within the Roman Catholic Church. So, are you aware that according to Catholics, they say that we have Jesus Christ foreskin? Do you accept that as a valid miracle?
>> Yeah, that's fine. So, you believe that one of the miracles that we use in order to establish Christianity being true is the fact that people claim that they have Jesus's foreskin?
>> I mean, yeah. That's literally you're supposed to get circumcised.
>> How is that not satanic?
>> How is that not satanic?
>> How is that not realiz the the Catholic Church preserves body parts to show off miracles? That's fine.
>> Do you also accept the Catholic Church when it says that it has Mary's breast milk? When are we?
>> That's iffy. But I wouldn't say that they 100% claim so.
>> Well, I I can bring you records of churches claiming this. And if you say that it's Canc Yeah, I I can actually, but if you say that it's iffy, what gives you this place of authority to say that it's iffy?
>> What puts you in this place of authority to say so?
>> I'm not saying that it's 100% iffy. I'm just saying, can you bring me the sources that say that it's actually Mary's breast milk?
>> Oh, no. I I can bring you the churches that claim that it's Mary's breast milk.
Catholic churches that verify this.
Would you take that as a form of evidence though is my question.
>> Was it verified by um the pope or the Vatican 2?
>> Let's do this. Ah, here we go.
>> Hold on. Hold on. I have a question. Is it verified by the Vatican 2 right now?
>> Uh, I'm not sure. Let's take a look.
>> Okay. If it's not verified by the Vatican 2, how are you going to say that any churches have source on it?
>> Wait, so I I can't bring you churches right now that say that they have Mary's breast milk. I can't say that, >> bro.
I don't know. I'm fine. But are you saying churches can lie? Wait, I agree.
I agree. Church, the churches are verified.
>> Wait, I agree. Wait, I fully agree.
Churches can lie. So, how do you know that the churches are not lying about the eucharistic miracles that you are talking about?
>> Yes. How do you know that they're not lying?
>> Yeah, you can literally look at the National Library of Medicine. It's literally proven through this that there was no preservatives added in that >> the National Library of Medicine. So, PubMet, correct? That's what we're reading from.
>> Okay. Yeah, that's fine. So, PubMed is saying that these specific eucharistic miracles are essentially, you know, actually substantiated. They were not altered by mankind and so on and so into it.
>> Yeah. And we're we're going to have to be consistent with this. So, does every is everything on PubMed peer-reviewed?
>> Say that again.
>> Is every article on PubMed peer-reviewed?
>> Uh, yeah.
>> Okay. Every single article on PubMed is peer-reviewed. Do you believe that every single article of Wait, let me ask you this. Do you believe that false prophets can have true miracles?
>> Say that again. Can false prophets have true miracles?
>> True miracles? Yes. Can false prophets have true miracles?
>> No.
>> Okay. Are you familiar with the hadith of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam where he says that one uh sorry, one wing of the fly has the disease to cure. Wait, wait, I'm in the middle of talking. Wait, I'm in the middle of talking. You're You're not going to be is a valid theological again as I said to talk. But why are you freaking out now? We were having a good conversation.
>> Am I freaking out? I'm using your logic.
I'm telling you to prove it.
>> You're allowed to use my logic when I'm done talking, not >> you're allowed to use your And I'm not quoting the Quran, by the way. I'm quoting the hadith. Now, the point that's being made is that you are allowed to talk, but you're going to be able to talk when I'm done talking, not when I'm in the middle of speaking. So a false prophet cannot do true miracles.
We have a hadith of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam where he speaks about a fly and he says that one of the wings of the fly has a disease and the other wing of the fly has the cure. Now according to him every single article on PubMed is peer-reviewed and therefore reliable. So let's use his own form of evidence against him. This is PubMed verifying the miracle of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam where it talks about one wing of the fly having the disease and the other having the cure. Essentially saying the bacterial culture inoculation was carried out using the pore plate method of the eosenthylene blue agar which was incubated for 12 to 48 hours at a temperature of 37 u 37 Celsius.
Date retrieval is done by observing the calculation of the number of microbes using the colony count every 12 hours.
The data which obtained for 48 hours of incubation showed zero as a result in terms of the disease so or the bacteria.
So this article on PubMed verifies a miracle of the prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam. Are we going to accept it or reject it? Because false prophets can't do true miracles. Are we going to accept or reject? Tell me.
>> Who was the physician that looked into it though?
>> Multiple actually. Uh let's go.
>> Okay. What are the multiple?
>> Yeah, it's right here.
>> Okay.
>> These are all of their names. So everything on PubMed is peer-reviewed and PubMed is a reliable source of information for you. Are you going to accept it or are you going to reject it?
Tell me.
>> Sure. I I'm fine to accept it. Why not?
>> Oh, but okay. So, we're okay of accepting that this miracle was verified by PubMed and a false prophet cannot do true miracles. So, if the prophet Muhammad did a true miracle, then according to you, he's a true prophet.
Christianity is done. You just accepted the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as a true prophet.
>> Hold on. But you're using a small lab experiment. Yeah, you're using a small lab experiment compared to a >> Yeah, but you see what happens. Wait, do you see what happens when you make Wait, so you agree? Well, we're Wait, hold on. We We have to establish something.
>> You're telling me to respond?
>> Did you not just accept the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him as a true prophet by saying that false prophets cannot make true miracles? and the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him according to multiple PubMed miracles because sorry not miracles PubMed articles because this is this isn't the only one did a true miracle then you are accepting him as a true prophet >> dude this is it's a small sample study I'm not going to say that it's completely wrong we don't really know if it's wrong but we know about the Eucharistic miracle >> but you said it's peer reviewed you said every single article on PubMed is peer- reviewviewed peer-reviewed >> it's a small lab experiment it's not actually to be accurate >> wait but I thought you said every single article on PubMet was peer reviewed And again, put that way and hold and then we can flip that on you. Prove to me that that's not the case for miracles.
>> Wait, can I talk? You're asking me a question?
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. So, when you talk about that, this is literally just a small lag lab experiment. It's literally testing bacteria on house flies. This eucharistic miracle thing is basically testing eucharistic miracles in a huge church, right? I'm not saying that it's 100% >> the article. Wait, no. No, hold on. No, you're lying. The article did they did five different experiments at different times on with two repetitions on each.
Right. So five different experiments.
Five different treatments and two repetitions on each treatment. Let's do that math. So you're trying to tell me that coincidentally the hadith ended up being true over 10 times.
Coincidentally, >> it's a small lab experiment. It's literally tested with house plast experiment.
>> Go back to your source real quick and I'll tell you how.
>> So five treatments and two repetitions where they tested using sterilized water and drinking water and adding it to the bacteria and it was contaminated and in addition they used three flies right wings. So over and over and over again.
You >> three you realize three flies are a small sample size, right?
>> Yeah. Three flies wings. You literally just >> Wait, hold on. Hold on. Three flies small lab experiment, >> five treatments, and two repetitions on each treatment. That's not a small experiment. And even then, the point that's being made small sample size.
>> Wait, is this article peer- reviewviewed?
>> It's peer- reviewviewed because it's a small sample. It's not 100% accurate.
>> Wait, it's Wait, watch this. It's peer- reviewviewed because it's a small sample. Is your article peer- reviewviewed?
>> Yeah.
>> So, your article is a small sample as well. Get off the live. You're done.
What a concession.
Oh my gosh. Alhamdulillah for Islam, bro. Alhamdulillah for Islam.
Alhamdulillah for Islam, man.
Oh my goodness.
Alhamdulillah for Islam. You see how quick their standard gets flipped on them?
You see guys, never buy this PubMed stuff. Never buy um what is it called?
The National Library of Medicine and PubMed and articles and this and that.
Flip it on them immediately. We just got this guy to concede that Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam is a true prophet using his own standard.
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