We Only Knew Each Other A Few Months! The Truth About The Twins

Added: 2026-05-25

[00:00:00]Is there anyone else that you live with or helps support you?

[00:00:03]>> Um, no. It's just me. I do receive I'm going to say I do receive child support for my other two children um or my other three children actually. Um and that helps me um with their expenses. So, I mean that helps me um it doesn't still um I pay a lot of rent on my own. It's $2,000 almost. So, 2,200 to be exact.

[00:00:29]So we did temporary orders on April 16th, 2026.

[00:00:33]Um this is a UIFSA case. So we are not doing orders on conservatorship or visitation. We are only doing orders on um supports and paternity was established in the temporary order. So everyone is in agreement to make that part of the order final. What's not agreed is the current supports. Um so in the last hearing, Mr. Green's gross resources were found at 5,590.

[00:01:01]Everyone agrees that this should continue to be his gross income. Um there's some issues at his workplace right now, which he'll testify to, but I I believe everyone is in agreement that this is the amount that it should be once things pick back up at work. And then there was no private health insurance available at this time. So, Miss Barry was ordered to apply to for a government medical assistance program and dad was ordered to pay medical support at $101 a month beginning May 1st. No one is requesting that that change. The request um where the disagreement comes in is last setting guideline support was assessed at $928 a month. Um dad has had an additional child since then. Everyone's agreed to give him credit. guidelines support based off of that would be $868 a month.

[00:01:52]Dad is not in agreement with that amount. Um I think he'll be testifying that he would like to pay somewhere closer to 750, but I will get some testimony from him on that. There was also a u retroactive support finding in the temporary order. I don't believe anybody's asking to change that.

[00:02:10]Issue of court cost was reserved as well. We don't have any agreement on that issue. And then regarding the non-disclosure, both parties agreed to a mutual non-disclosure of uh addresses, but they agreed to disclose their email address and phone numbers.

[00:02:28]>> Okay. And uh they'll tell me or you'll tell me how you said one child and how old is that child?

[00:02:35]>> There are two children in this case and they are twins. Their birth date well I I'll get some testimony um about that, but their birth date is 320 2024.

[00:02:45]Thank you. Okay, then we'll proceed. The state's going to call each of you as a witness. So, they get to decide who goes first. So, the other person, I'll ask you to remain quiet unless you have a you think you have a valid legal objection. Otherwise, it's not your turn to talk yet. So, try not to interrupt and you'll be given same courtesy. I promise I'll get to talk to both of you.

[00:03:01]So, u Miss Compos, you want to go start?

[00:03:04]>> Yeah, I'll go ahead and call um Father Mr. Green as my first witness. Mr. Green, can you please state your name for the record?

[00:03:12]>> Antonio Green.

[00:03:14]Okay. Did you hear the agreements that I read onto the record?

[00:03:18]>> Yes.

[00:03:19]>> Does that accurately reflect what you agreed to?

[00:03:25]>> Yes. In a sense of me not agreeing to the A68, right?

[00:03:30]>> Right. But everything else that I announced as the agreement.

[00:03:34]>> Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Sorry.

[00:03:36]>> And I announced on the record that there was um a temporary um issue at your work. Um, do you want to tell the court a little bit about that?

[00:03:46]>> Uh, yeah. I mean, temporary we could say that, but as of right now, it's just kind of up in the air. Um, last time I came um on court and I spoke to a judge or we had I just kind of discussed that text, we've been having issues with our concrete and it's been having a contamination. So, Tex was moving forward to disqualify all of our designs that we use to produce concrete. Well, this week is the first week that we've been able to produce concrete. Um, in the last three and a half weeks, it was 23 days almost that, you know, people didn't work and we didn't have work, truth be told. And then, uh, so this week is our first week back to try to prove that we can produce good concrete and text that will be at our job next week. Uh, the future of the company from the meeting that we did have this morning isn't looking too well. this was worse for my director ultimately saying something around the lines like I don't know what's gonna happen in the next three months but I do know we're pouring concrete today that's all he said and so um we've you know ultimately we've already lost our plant manager he's quit our safety director has quit our batch plan manager has quit crane operators has quit because work has become so scarce that we don't know what is going to happen in the near future with our company so what my director is doing now is he's is going day by day and uh the state does come out weekly to kind of like observe and see what they want to do. But unfortunately this week uh sorry this week they didn't show up. So next week they will be out to see if we're going to be able to continue to pour concrete or not. And the endgame there is if we pour concrete we make money or if we're not making money nobody has a job.

[00:05:31]>> Okay. But as you said as of this week you'll have resumed operations. Um and then text dot will be examining it next week.

[00:05:40]>> Yes. As of this week, yes, we uh were able to pour uh 70% of what we would normally produce.

[00:05:48]>> Okay. Um and then when the when everything gets resolved, uh do let's it's let's say everything gets approved and you'all are able to work um normally, will your income be the same as what it was assessed at last setting?

[00:06:05]Yes.

[00:06:08]>> Okay. Um >> I'm sorry. I do have one question. Um let's say in three weeks from now or even a week from now something happens and this is the final order and because ultimately I am living in a space where I don't know if I have a job tomorrow. This is now this is words from my director. We don't know. And so if work doesn't happen anymore and I no longer have a job and I have to go somewhere else or find way money, how am I able to send this child support without y'all, I guess, going to my company? How can I manually do something like that just in case?

[00:06:47]Because I I don't know the the the status or the longevity of where I do work. And so I just want to make sure that I could still provide the necessary amount that is agreed on if that happens, you know, I can still try to make that happen, you know.

[00:07:08]>> Okay. Just real quickly, uh, if you're are you talking about your company just busting up and not having employees anymore, just going down? Is that what there's a possibility?

[00:07:18]>> Yeah. So So the Yeah, the probability is we were a contracted company through another company called JD Abrams. And JD Abrams has already went bankrupt. And JD Abrams went bankrupt. And they so for so ultimately for our company to start paying all of our employees, well, we started selling a lot of our equipment, you know, and I'm talking about big equipment like excavators and other things. And so, and then with Texas shutting us down for three weeks, well, we didn't produce anything. So, our revenue for those three weeks was zero.

[00:07:49]And so, we are in a bad spot. But between me, my manager, and my director, we've been trying to put our heads together, try to and other, you know, other higherups. We've been trying to like get things dialed in so we can have a job ultimately, but it's looking >> I think I get it. I think one one part of your question, how do you send child support yourself? Go online, get to their website, Attorney General Child Support for Texas, and there's multiple ways. And in fact, at the end of this hearing, the state can probably send you a one-page summary of all the different ways to pay directly if paycheck. So that just be warned on that. Now, the other question is, do you have a crystal ball? Do I have a crystal ball? And we know exactly what's going to happen. No, nobody here has one and I'm not even pretending to. If you're asking for hearing and to go to another ruling, I can do that. Whether it's final and then I can't review it again because hey, once I do a final order, the case is over. I don't have any more jurisdiction after 30 days. So, you're kind of stuck with it. Then what happens? It would you'd have to refile or ask to refile and they may or may not help you right away and it takes a while to come back.

[00:08:52]And so, if things change drastically in the next few months, I won't have a way of uh reviewing it if it was a final order. Now, you do want something today because you could get credit for the other child and it would drop your child's support a little bit even if you don't agree with the amount. Um, so maybe I I know I have the ability to do this. If I in my ultimate decision is I do a temporary order, I can do that. If you all want me to do temporary order and reset for sometime later this year, which could be toward the end of the year, maybe October, November, and maybe things have settled down a bit and you'd be able to come with better information.

[00:09:24]I could do that, too. Do a temp further temporary order day and a final order next time. So, I'm throwing that out there because those are things I know that you don't that I might consider and the state I obviously would want to know their position as well, but I can't help you if I make a ruling today and something goes out tomorrow or next month and you you don't have an avenue of coming back without refiling or hitting the appeal part uh or a new trial, but that's harder to do.

[00:09:53]>> Doesn't matter.

[00:09:53]>> Okay. I'm sorry, Miss Copos. I took over. I'd like to tell people about it.

[00:09:57]That's okay.

[00:09:58]>> And and let me just ask Mr. Green because we had talked about doing final orders today and then potentially modifying and yes and of course as judge said it can take a little bit like like we talked about to do a modifiation.

[00:10:11]Um so are you okay with doing final orders today or are you requesting further temporary orders today?

[00:10:21]>> Only because I'm not sure I mean what the future kind of holds. I mean, uh, I guess I would like to further the temporary order. Uh, I do have the birth facts or verification of my daughter being born, but I know the judge just said that she wouldn't be able to do that until the final order. Um, and I guess in the meantime that that could also give us a chance to figure out this work thing, check this out, and see about possibly if we're able to put the twins on an insurance.

[00:10:52]uh because that could help us out too in a finance way. So I mean I would say maybe yeah uh for the temporary order and then we could come back and discuss it further.

[00:11:07]>> Okay. I think you got your answer.

[00:11:10]>> I did judge. And now I'm wondering if we might just want to do a brief recess because I'm thinking do we did do parties want to do a full hearing today or would they prefer to just reset to another day especially considering this is on YouTube? Um and maybe they would just hearing that this cannot the final order today do a reset till next time.

[00:11:29]>> Well, let me ask you real quick. uh the twins are already born clearly but is there a problem with uh giving credit today so that there might be some relief on that?

[00:11:41]>> We certainly can judge. Um I was just giving the parties the option since I know there was some hesitation with the YouTube issue and knowing that we're going to have to come back another day anyway. Um, I was just wanting to give them the option of doing either reset entirely or we could do further temporary orders today um and and do a do a full hearing over those issues.

[00:12:01]>> Um, but again, is there any dispute that he's got other children than now can be considered that weren't considered earlier? That's not >> No, judge. There's no dispute over that.

[00:12:09]Um, so the numbers we were going to recalculate some of the numbers. Just to be fair though for them for the parties to know is that if I just reset it then I don't touch anything today and so I'm not giving you credit and lowering your child's support even to an amount you don't want but it's lower than the original because now you're getting credit for the other children. Uh if I do a plain old reset I would expect it in two or three months versus me doing further temporary orders. I don't mind setting it in five or five, four, five months, however long we have left in the year. That's not December. December is awful. Too many not enough dockets, too many cases. So I'd say October and November. So, of those two, Mr. Green, did you follow that or do you have any questions before you answer? Which would you prefer?

[00:12:50]>> Um, yes, ma'am, I follow.

[00:12:53]>> And you would prefer the further temporary orders or the just plain old reset.

[00:12:57]>> Um, well, what's the difference between a reset and a further temporary order?

[00:13:01]>> Well, a reset says I don't touch anything and the prison order is in effect. So, I'm not and then when we come back, I'm not going to be backdating it is uh the problem. It would start from that point forward.

[00:13:14]We'll think about it. Let me hear from her very well. Uh she needs to talk. I need to let her talk. So before I consider anything else. So Miss Compass.

[00:13:23]>> Yeah. And I'm just just going to deal with this preliminary issue right now.

[00:13:27]Um Miss Barry, what are your thoughts hearing all of this um and and knowing that we're putting this on YouTube right now, but we're going to have to come back another day anyway. Um but we could do some further temporary orders today.

[00:13:39]What What are your thoughts?

[00:13:42]Um, honestly, I just wanted this to be finalized today. I didn't expect to come back um again and miss work again because of this. Um, I feel like work in itself is always up in the air. No one knows if they have a job tomorrow. And I feel like that's just life. However, um if we're doing a temporary order, my only question is is is he still obligate obligated to pay um on these temporary orders because I have yet to even receive any payment on anything. So, the boys um I'm still not getting that financial support. So, if I'm okay with including this new child to get the credit that is due, that is okay. But um are we going to keep going back and forth or or what are we doing here? Because honestly, I mean, it's just delaying everything and at this point I just want to come to an agreement on a number.

[00:14:39]>> Yes, Miss Barry, I get all that, but as a judge, I also have to weigh both sides. And it looks like we caught him in the middle of a really sketchy time.

[00:14:47]Most times we don't know they're coming.

[00:14:49]And if we had done a final order earlier or there weren't more children born, it' be a totally different case. And then he'd have um I guess he'd have to come in and modify it later. And just so you know, if you all don't ask for it, the state is required, I think, by federal policy to look at cases every three years to see if they're entitled to modification. So three years is a long time to wait for modification. If you know today that tomorrow things could be totally different. Now, I've never been around for a long time and most cases aren't exactly this way where you're in right in the middle of it. But I have to look at what we're at right now, not what could be yesterday or what could be tomorrow, unless I do a further temporary order and look at the facts tomorrow. By that I mean three or four months from now, five months possibly.

[00:15:33]So given all that, uh I know it's in your interest to get this over and go away with a higher number. But that also might not be fair if he's really in the middle of a difficult situation with employment that he has no control over.

[00:15:44]So given that, you want to try again or not? You're just you want final order today? Is that your position?

[00:15:50]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:15:51]>> Okay. Um, Miss Day take a position.

[00:15:57]>> Well, just and I I do understand that he's going through some um changes and we're we're it's kind of up in the air right now. Um but but as you said, we could have also done a final order last month and then come back and modified if if things change substantially and then they don't have to necessarily wait the three years if there's been a material in substantial change in circumstances.

[00:16:20]Um of course as as I've told parties that process would take a little still take a little bit but we could certainly come back here sooner than than three years if there's that material and substantial change. Um, and I I think I would prefer final orders today, judge, but of course we leave it up to you.

[00:16:40]>> You have no choice. That's my job. Um, so I I misunderstood. I guess I thought it was one child, but there are two children and there's no disputes. So, do you have the numbers as far as step downs or any of that?

[00:16:56]I didn't have the step downs, >> but the >> Yeah, >> yeah, the percentage that you're using for the new guideline amount for credit for the two the twins.

[00:17:09]>> Yeah, that would be So, he has three children outside of this case and there's two children in this case. So, I believe it would be 19% as the percentage. I I didn't have those number the the net resources pulled up but I believe it is 19% for >> okay if I do a further further temporary order today I didn't get enough information because we started focusing on whether to finalize or not um can you just elicit just a little bit of information about I don't really want to know what state Barry is in if this is USA there's no custody or visitation I assume in play in another state already so I just want to know how far away she is from Mr. Green's location roughly and also is there any uh visits of any kind going on?

[00:17:55]>> Okay, judge. And so what I was planning on doing was getting some testimony from Mr. Green first just about because he was requesting that deviation. Um if you're not wanting to hear a deviation at this point and we're just doing further temper, then I then I can limit the testimony um to to not talk about some of the stuff that he's wanting to talk about. But >> well, I would I guess with the deviation, it would be a deviation if he was trying to visit and trying to spend money trying to travel far away to visit and that I could consider in a deviation, but I don't know what other deviations he might have. So, yes, ask about all of that, Miss.

[00:18:30]>> Okay.

[00:18:31]>> Um M I'll go back to Mr. Green. Mr. Green, uh when was the last time you visited with the two children in this case? Um um they were uh in the hospital in New Mexico.

[00:18:44]Okay. So, was that when they were born?

[00:18:47]>> Yes.

[00:18:48]>> Okay. Have you seen them um at all since then?

[00:18:51]>> No, ma'am.

[00:18:52]>> Okay. And and are there any orders in place regarding visitation?

[00:18:56]>> No, ma'am.

[00:18:58]>> Okay. Um and just to make it clear on the record, how many other children do you have?

[00:19:04]>> I have three.

[00:19:06]>> Three other children. How many of those children live with you?

[00:19:09]>> All of them. Uh one of one is of my newborn. She lives with me. will be here full-time and the other two I have 50/50 custody and they live with me too.

[00:19:17]>> Okay, understood. Do you pay child support for the other two children?

[00:19:20]>> I do not.

[00:19:22]>> Okay. Um and so guideline is suggested here based off of at least the income you have currently at $868 a month. Why do you feel that $868 a month is not an appropriate amount of child support?

[00:19:36]>> Oh, well, uh I was just going off of like um what the judge had told me last time like, "Hey, calculate all your bills. look at your bills. And and so I I me and my wife, we sat down, you know, quite some time, looked at our bills, kind of put everything together, and comfortably, you know, I I could I could definitely send 750. I mean, it's about $100 less than that, but even 750 is still a lot. You know, 868 is still a lot. So that's why I figured 750 could be okay, you know, and that we could still make ends meet over here. and she's still receiving $750 a month. Uh, that's kind of like where I was, honestly.

[00:20:17]>> Okay. Um, is there anything else you think that the court should consider on why $868 that the guideline child support amount is not appropriate? Is there anything else you'd like the court to know about?

[00:20:30]>> I mean, I understand that um, you know, these boys are mine and that she does have custody on them and that she is going to need money. And then I do understand that our newborn, you know, costs money too. And then having kids 50% of the time, um, they cost a lot of money too. So I I get money is the biggest issue here. It's just, however, um, I just after looking at our budget and trying to figure out and crunch numbers, it took some time that we kind of came up with 750 that that that could be ideal.

[00:21:00]>> Okay. Does your wife work?

[00:21:03]My wife uh does work.

[00:21:07]>> Okay. Do y'all uh the bills that you're referencing, do you do y'all share those bills?

[00:21:12]>> Yeah. So, my wife has her own set of bills that she pays half, you know, that she pays on. I have my own set of bills I pay on. And then we have tons of bills that we both pay on, you know, the form of like we we do have car payments, you know, we split those. We got mortgage, you know, insuranceances.

[00:21:30]If you want to talk about miscellaneous things like groceries for the house and amongst other things that we we do split a lot of the the bigger bills and they they are expensive, you know, so sorry.

[00:21:42]>> I understand. Is there anything else you think the court should consider before I move on to to Miss Barry?

[00:21:48]>> Um, nothing I can think of now.

[00:21:52]>> Okay, then I will pass the witness.

[00:21:56]Um, remind me what the insurance was.

[00:21:58]was a government a government program. I think you said that correct. Miss Compens.

[00:22:02]>> Yes, Judge. At this time, it is government medical program.

[00:22:04]>> Is there any way you would provide private insurance that would cover an out of out of state children that wouldn't be astronomical? Mr. Green, did you hear that?

[00:22:13]>> I'm sorry. What was that, ma'am?

[00:22:15]>> Is there are you sure there's any private insurance available to you, especially under the circumstances of your employment, uh, that's available to you that would cover out of state children? That would not be astronomical the cost? No. Um my wife has insurance.

[00:22:30]Uh I'm on my wife's insurance. So is the kids. And um ultimately we um uh we're going to see if we could try to get together and figure out if maybe we are able to put the kids on the insurance.

[00:22:44]And so and if they do cover out of state and if they do cover out of state, then ultimately the kids can be covered um through my wife's insurance if that's acceptable. Um, but and I'm I'm sorry and maybe I'm already too late, but the one thing I would like to consider is um the length of of of our relationship should be uh considered, you know, that uh and I'm probably going a little further, but like Jerica and I only knew each other for a few months before these babies came, you know, ultimately. And uh she did move 800 miles away. And so it's not like I was I was able to have them 50/50 or I am in a position where I can get up and drive 12 13 miles I mean 12 13 hours away to just get up and see these boys, you know, at at at uh at the same disposal. I'm able to see my kids, which my other kids do live here in the same town as me. But, you know, with her just moving it, it, you know, 50/50 obviously would never have been an option because I I just can't get up and leave 800 miles away.

[00:23:55]>> Okay. Uh, any further uh questioning of Mr. Green, Miss Compass?

[00:24:00]>> No, judge. I'll pass the witness.

[00:24:02]>> Then let's uh have Miss Barry respond to any of this.

[00:24:07]>> Okay. Miss Barry, can you please state your name for the record?

[00:24:10]>> Yes, ma'am. Jerica Barry.

[00:24:13]>> Okay. Um, and how old are the the two children in this case?

[00:24:19]>> Um, they are two.

[00:24:21]>> Okay. Um, we've gone over Mr. uh we've gone over dad's income. Um, but we haven't gone over your income just yet.

[00:24:29]Are are you currently working?

[00:24:31]>> Yes, I am.

[00:24:33]>> How much do you or what kind of what kind of work do you do? Um, so I'm a registered behavior technician. I work with autistic kids. Um, and so, um, basically with kids with autism.

[00:24:47]>> Okay. Is that a W2 kind of job or a contractor kind of job?

[00:24:51]>> A W2.

[00:24:53]>> Okay. Um, and about how how much do you make per hour on that job? At that job, >> I make $20 an hour. um on average. So my job I don't really um there's no guarantee for hours um since it's subjective um to the kids actually showing up to their sessions. So um if there my clients cancel their sessions, their parents cancel their sessions, I don't I lose out on those hours. Um so average per week I would say I work about 30 hours per week. Um, and that's just not including um, if my twins get sick. Um, I end up losing hours as well.

[00:25:33]So, obviously because I'm their sole provider here and I don't have um, my only family member is my sister. Um, she she's very busy. So, it's just me. Um, so basically if I they get sick, I miss out on those hours.

[00:25:48]>> Okay. Um, and dad testified a little bit about to his expenses. Um, what kind of expenses do you have?

[00:25:56]Um so my major expenses like my rent um I do have my own apartment. Um that in itself is expensive. Um and then of course everything else like light, water, um cable, internet, um um I have insurance I have to pay on my car, my vehicle, um food, diapers, clothes. I mean what else?

[00:26:20]Other expense? Just normal expenses. Um, so yeah, that's >> Is there anyone else?

[00:26:27]>> Just me. It's just me. No, just me.

[00:26:29]>> That was my question. There. Is there anyone else that you live with or helps support you?

[00:26:34]>> Um, no, it's just me. I do receive I'm going to say I do receive child support for my other two children um or my other three children actually. Um, and that helps me um with their expenses. So, I mean that helps me. um it doesn't I still um I pay a lot of rent on my own.

[00:26:54]It's $2,000 almost. So 2,200 to be exact. So it's a lot for me and for the amount of work I miss out on. With the twins um being premature, they get sick very often. Um so most times like there was a month in April, I missed three weeks of work cuz one of my twins was in the hospital for two weeks. So and then the next twin got sick obviously. So, it was just a rough month for me and I missed in a lot of work those times and since it's just me, I don't have other support other than what I receive from my other kid's father. So, >> okay, >> understood. Um, is is there anything else you think the court should consider?

[00:27:37]>> Um, mostly that is it. Um it's just that um being also how he stated, we didn't know each other that long. Um we dated very frequent like very shortly lived, right?

[00:27:53]Um but again, these kids were planned.

[00:27:57]Um we discussed this thoroughly before I took out my birth control and we got pregnant. So it wasn't a surprise. these kids. Granted, twins weren't planned, but I was blessed with two two beautiful babies. So, you know, me moving here was a move when we weren't even together. We were in a bad spot. So, we were already separated. We weren't together. So, moving here with the twins was my decision as a mother to do what's best for my children and my financial situation at the time. Um, my sister offered her home to me and my kids and that's why we lived with her for some time. But then I got on my own feet. I, you know, so that's where I'm at on that. And that it was in a situation where he never could reach out or anything. We had ended in bad terms the last time we spoke, but that was two years ago. Two years have passed and um, I have no bad blood against him or whatever. I just, you know, it's about the boys and the twins and what's, you know, for them. It's it's nothing else.

[00:29:05]>> Okay.

[00:29:06]>> Uh he testified that the last time he saw them was, I think, at the hospital at their birth.

[00:29:12]>> Would you agree with that testimony?

[00:29:14]Okay.

[00:29:15]>> Yes, that was the last time he actually physically saw them.

[00:29:18]>> Okay. Uh I'll pass the witness, judge.

[00:29:22]>> Okay. Technically, y'all are here representing yourselves, so y'all are your own lawyers. The last thing I do with you all with testimony is you have the right to cross-examine each other.

[00:29:30]That means you can ask a question, but then you have to wait for the answer.

[00:29:33]It's not a time to point fingers or tell each other things. It's just questions.

[00:29:38]So, since Miss uh Barry's testifying, Mr. Green, do you have any questions for solely on the issue of the contested issue of child support at this time?

[00:29:46]>> Um, no ma'am, I do not.

[00:29:48]>> And Miss uh Barry, do you have any questions for Mr. Green?

[00:29:51]>> I don't. No, ma'am.

[00:29:53]>> Thank you. Okay.

[00:29:55]Okay. Okay. I don't think I need anything else at this point. Uh, Miss Compos, uh, is are you done with testimony and or witnesses and or evidence?

[00:30:03]>> Um, I'm done with testimony, judge. I'll just do a brief closing, which is that, um, we are asking, I do think guideline support is appropriate in this case.

[00:30:13]Both parties testified about expenses that they had. Um, and it doesn't sound like Mr. Green has visited with the children's. So, Miss Barry has has sounds like she has taken on that um or had to take it all on her own and I think guidelines support hearing all of the testimony is appropriate. Um and we are already reducing it from last order uh since we're giving Mr. Green credit for his the child that was just born. Um, so I would just like to reiterate that we are asking for the $868 a month to begin um 61 2026 and to keep that medical support obligation that was already ordered on the case since there isn't any evidence of of private health insurance being uh available at this point.

[00:31:02]>> And we are going to go ahead and ask for final orders, judge. But um >> I think she froze.

[00:31:08]>> Oh no.

[00:31:10]>> Who froze?

[00:31:12]I think her audio is um Judge, can you hear us just fine?

[00:31:19]>> I can actually hear you, but I see where my screen is. Can you hear me?

[00:31:25]>> Yes, I can hear you, Judge. Maybe try um maybe try turning off your camera and then turning it back on. That might unfreeze you.

[00:31:35]>> I've got a message that says Zoom meeting is not responding. Wait for the program to respond, but you can still hear me. I can still hear you, Judge.

[00:31:42]>> Go all the way to the left of your screen on the bottom. Turn your your video on and off, judge, on Zoom.

[00:31:50]>> Yeah, I get it. Hold on.

[00:31:53]Now it's grayed out and it's not letting me access any of the buttons.

[00:32:05]I'm at a courthouse with really secure internet and a downtown urban area. I cannot believe I'm the one having electronic issues. That usually does not happen. Um, but nothing is happening right now on my end. I'm clicking for them to >> Well, we can hear you just fine, judge.

[00:32:25]And everybody else is is >> Can you see everyone else?

[00:32:29]>> I can see everybody and everybody's still moving and I get that I'm the one that's frozen. I do. But if you can hear me, I can continue. I don't mind. So, uh, so I did hear your last, uh, request, Miss uh, Compos, that you are asking for final orders.

[00:32:44]>> Yes, judge. And then parties can come back and modify if things change. And hope hopefully um hopefully his work becomes stabilized and we won't have to come back and modify.

[00:32:54]>> Okay. Um, Miss Barry, let me let you go next. You have the right to make a brief open closing statement. Do you agree with everything Miss Compos said andor do you have anything different to add?

[00:33:04]Uh, and really just on the contested issues, everything that's agreed to, I don't need you to repeat.

[00:33:10]>> Um, yes, judge. Um, I agree to everything. and um just that if $868 is not something that he's willing to agree with and he came up with 750, I can meet in the middle at $800 and that would be okay with me too just to finalize this order. Um and that's basically it. Um >> Okay, that's generous. Thank you. And then uh Mr. Mr. Green, your closing argument, sir. And what? And I assume you said final order, Miss Barry, correct?

[00:33:48]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:33:49]>> Okay, Mr. Green, you're next. What do you want me to do?

[00:33:52]>> Um, yes, ma'am. I was saying a further temporary order. Um, um 8800 will have to be something I'll have to, you know, sit down and discuss with my wife. Uh, but I am still sitting at 750.

[00:34:08]Um ultimately, um I don't think finalizing the order today would be ideal. Uh I do think a a further order would be okay.

[00:34:19]>> Uh let me ask you this. How long have we I didn't hear it. I don't think it will matter to me. How long have you been with the company so far?

[00:34:27]>> Me, I've been there uh two and a half years.

[00:34:30]>> Okay. Um and it's not this company that you think is failing. It's the bigger one that was the problem that went bankrupt. Oh no, that company already went bankrupt.

[00:34:40]>> Correct. But your company >> is is now so because they went bankrupt and the money issues and then also the concrete now our company is not doing so good.

[00:34:50]>> Okay.

[00:34:51]>> Okay. I think Thank you, sir. Then this is what I'm going to do. Um, I was close to doing final orders, but I I just don't think it's fair because I do know and I have seen and miss there's no uh animosity or anything hostile toward the state, but you have a lot of cases and too many people asking for help and not enough of you. And so I do see cases that need help six months and it happens to be two years or something like that. So it it's nothing personal, but I I do see people having trouble when uh things change to get back in the system without having to hire a lawyer, which they can't afford. So I am for the first thing doing is further temporary orders based on the facts I just heard.

[00:35:33]Um keep everything that you already said and continue it in the further temporary order instead of us operating under two orders. So that includes the paternity establishment, all the findings of income, the no private insurance is available, the mother's government medical assistance, and the medical support of 101 a month. That will continue.

[00:35:55]Did I miss something? Oh, and uh court costs are still reserved and uh the agreed non-disclosure with the exception for email and phone. Just carry them all over. Did I leave anything else out?

[00:36:09]>> No, judge. That's that's it. There there was just the issue of um guidelines support and and I just to understand Miss or what my understanding of Miss Barry's agreement. Sorry, I would like to understand if she's still asking would be okay with the 800 knowing that we are coming back in the judge's ordering further temporary orders or would she want guideline support?

[00:36:31]>> No. Um if we're coming back then we might as well just keep it at the support that I was just saying if we're going to finalize it to meet him in the middle. Um, I would say $800. I feel like that's not far. $50 is something you can budget. That's like one less meal out. That's like, you know, work is work and I understand. But this was happening a month ago and we're still in the same place of he doesn't know if he's going to have a job or not. That was one month ago and we're now we're back here again. A month ago, you didn't know if you were going to have a job.

[00:37:05]And then now you still don't know if you're going to have a job. and now we're just still furthering something and delaying something on the if um I don't think that's fair. So, um if we're just going to do this temporary order, then I might as well just keep it at what is obligated what is the state is saying is is obligated to pay.

[00:37:26]>> Uh you may have misspoke a little bit, Miss Barry. Uh it's not an obligation.

[00:37:30]It's called the guideline for that reason. It's a starting point. It can be deviated from up or down. Y'all can take the position you want, but it's not a mandatory thing on me. I get to hear all the evidence and get to make the decision. So, just just be aware of that. Okay? And if you don't like me, y'all can appeal me. I have at it.

[00:37:50]>> Okay. I'm I've talked about all the previous things that need to be in there and that our agreement. I am aware I haven't ruled on the the contested issue this comp, but I just want to make sure all the other stuff was in there first.

[00:38:00]>> Yes, judge. I'll I'll put all of that in there.

[00:38:02]>> All that in there. Uh the way I see it is from one month to another. Yeah. I really don't know how anybody can predict if the company's already in stress that it's going to be good or it's going to be bad. I don't think anybody and nobody has a crystal ball, man. But what I can do is help at least have better information so I can make a better ruling so that for you don't have to uh come back shortly thereafter. You can wait your three years or even longer if things don't change. So, I what I'm going to do is I'm going to grant the request of a some deviation. I'm going to do $800 a month whether you like it or not. It's a little closer to your number, Mr. Green. It's not that far.

[00:38:42]However, what I'm using is I don't think people just because uh the kids are far away are never going to visit and so I can allow a little bit of credit for trying to visit. And so maybe you can put $50 away uh for guesting money for one trip once a year or uh I don't think what I'm giving you in credit would be enough to do plane tickets for everybody round trip. But there is a way of trying to get to see the kids uh off and on andor if you all don't do electronic visitation you probably ought to start.

[00:39:15]Everybody uses social media. You can do FaceTime or something else that that y'all have access to. But there's no reason you can't start seeing the kids and they can see you on a camera. That's rampant these days with all our electronics. So if you're not doing it, you should be doing it now. I'm not putting it in the order because I don't have the authority to deal with visitation and since I can't hear it since the children and mother are not in Texas and this is not their home state.

[00:39:41]But I like to help people so tell you y'all can um get something done without a court order on your own. And it looks to me like your children are important to you if you see your children have 50% of uh time with your other with your children and don't live with you 100% Mr. uh Green. So I would think you would want to try to do anything to to get in their heads so they know what you look like. They can you can see them growing up a little bit. So I would ask you or tell you you can ask for trying to get electronic visits on Yzone without a court order. So 800 a month. Did you have a start date in mind? Miss Gumpus >> 612026. Judge >> 612026. And then I'll look at income based on what I have and keep your pay stubs. The state uh you would you wouldn't Well, yeah, he's a Texas resident, so you would have his his uh reported wages. However, they not be may not be as current as the prior quarter.

[00:40:35]Correct. Depending on where we are, Miss Compos.

[00:40:38]>> Correct. Judge, >> it might Yeah. So you on if you want me to look at your payubs all the way to the date of court, you need to keep them and bring them to court with you or try to put them in an email to the AG before you come to court next time so that they can look at them for me and then present them for you uh on the computer. So uh do that Mr. Green because we do not have excuse me not we the state does not have access to uh up to date. It takes a quarter for you to for them to find out.

[00:41:07]So, it takes a minute and they may not not have all the up-to-date information that you can bring to us. So, you heard me. I don't care if you wanted me to consider it. You have to bring it, Mr. Green.

[00:41:18]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:41:19]>> Okay. So, 800 months starting June 1st.

[00:41:21]The last thing I need to do is uh and we don't need to do a step down. Nobody's graduating from high school anytime soon. Uh or emancipating. Correct, Miss Compos. We can wait on that or >> correct? Yeah, we'll just leave it at 800 for the step down for now.

[00:41:35]So again, I am thinking to give it enough time so it won't be every month that you have to come and you can afford another few hours way down the road.

[00:41:42]There's a very uh let's see, I was say looking at maybe October and November.

[00:41:51]This is a Caldwell case.

[00:41:54]I usually have Caldwell twice a month.

[00:41:56]>> 13th is the first October um Caldwell date.

[00:42:02]>> Okay. And the other one's an inerson date. I'm not going to make Miss Barry come in person. And I hate the hybrids, part real and part computer, so let's not do that. Uh, October 13th or November 10th.

[00:42:15]Uh, any preference, Miss Barry?

[00:42:18]They're both Tuesdays.

[00:42:20]>> Um, um, November is fine, Judge.

[00:42:23]>> That would give it more time for your company to figure this out. Are you okay with that, Mr. McGraine?

[00:42:28]>> Yes, ma'am. November 10th.

[00:42:29]>> November 10th it is. It's going to still be by Zoom. you'll have the same Zoom ID. Um, and it would be an 8:30 case as well. So, log in and come back in the way you have today. Although, it will be in writing. The state's going to draft the proposed order. Have you all look at it before they send it to me, you all have about a week to look at it, sign it off on it, but consider priority homework. So, if you can get to do it right away, including over the weekend, send it no later on Monday because by next Friday, if that you haven't signed it, uh the state will send it to me without uh your signature, but I will review it for accuracy. And uh since I'm approving your agreements and ruling on the contested issue, I'm also rendering the order. So, really is my order to sign whether you all sign it or not. But they are going to give you the opportunity to check for, you know, errors or whatever. uh in case you see something you don't understand, you can call them. You cannot ever call me.

[00:43:21]Okay. So, November 10th, 2026 at 8:30 by Zoom uh with the same Zoom ID. Uh anything any Oops. What happened? My battery's low. Let me finish. You have any questions or concerns, Mr. uh Green, before I let you go?

[00:43:37]>> No, ma'am.

[00:43:38]>> Any questions or concerns, Miss Barry, before I let you go?

[00:43:41]>> No, I'm fine. Yes, Judge.

[00:43:43]>> Y'all are on legal notice whether or not you signed the order. So, I expect you on November 10th. Don't be late. And also, don't uh if you don't show up.

[00:43:50]It's a civil matter. The the consequence would I could default you, which means you're not here to tell your side, you're going to lose your case. So, it's very important that you're here with your income information. And Miss Barry, if you want to have input, you show up.

[00:44:01]If you don't, it goes on without you.

[00:44:03]Got it.

[00:44:04]>> Yes, ma'am.

[00:44:06]>> Okay, then. Thank you. You're excused.

[00:44:07]And I'll stop my devices once you're out of the courtroom. Click the leave meeting button. Oh, >> thank you. Thank you.

[00:44:18]Sit.