Debating God's existence [5/4/2026]

追加: 2026-05-11

[00:00:04]Welcome in everyone. How's it doing? How are we doing? How's it going?

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[00:00:55]Hey, what's up Dr. Blitz, I have a question about um I have a question about uh time dilation. Um okay. So, so light travels the same uh in every direction, in every reference frame. Um but and that like traveling the same.

[00:01:30]Okay.

[00:01:32]I don't know how to articulate this question. Is the reason for time dilation that the direction that light is traveling in is different in every reference frame?

[00:01:40]Like it's like pointed in like a different vector uh in different reference frames and that's what gives rise to things like time dilation. Is that what's going on there?

[00:01:52]I don't know. Let me know. Let me know if I'm in the ballpark.

[00:01:59]Yeah. I don't know. Is there a Is there like some sort of like is there some sort of like syllogism for, you know, it starts with like like two premises like the two postulates of special relativity and then it like reasons to the conclusion of time dilation? because if so, I'd be I'd be interested. But hey, if you're in that guest request box, make sure that you're 18 or older. Make sure that you believe in the God of the Bible, the Torah, or the Quran. I also ask that you have some sort of reason to think that God exists.

[00:02:36]With that, we will go to Blitz is going to DM me something.

[00:02:53]All right. Whoa, Dr. Blitz, is that a picture of your penis? That's very inappropriate, Dr. Blitz. I don't know why you would DM me that. That's not okay. I think that that's I think that that's wrong, even.

[00:03:08]All right. And with that, we'll go to the very first guest.

[00:03:13]>> Hey, how's it going? I'm good. How are you >> doing? Well, how old are you?

[00:03:18]>> 21.

[00:03:19]>> Okay, one sec. Let me turn you up. Uh, yeah. What religion are you?

[00:03:24]>> Um, I don't know. It depends. But I think BNK is wrong.

[00:03:28]>> Okay. Well, you're going to need to come back a different day cuz right now we're doing the God topic.

[00:03:34]>> Do you think BNK is wrong, too?

[00:03:37]>> You want to engage in the God topic or are you intent on pivoting right from the start?

[00:03:43]Yeah, I guess I'm pivoting. I really wanted to talk about why being gay.

[00:03:46]>> Okay, you can come back tomorrow then.

[00:03:49]Tomorrow I'll probably do that live. So, I'll see you then.

[00:03:56]Hey, how's it going?

[00:03:57]>> How you doing?

[00:03:58]>> Yeah, doing well. How old are you?

[00:04:00]>> I'm 18.

[00:04:01]>> Yep. And what religion?

[00:04:04]>> Uh, I believe a God exists, but I'm not related with any religions.

[00:04:08]>> Sure. Do you think when you say God exists, are you speaking of like a mind that created the universe? Something like that?

[00:04:14]>> No, I wouldn't say mind is too simplistic like something that existed before everything.

[00:04:20]>> Okay.

[00:04:20]>> Cuz I don't believe nothing nothing uh something could come from nothing. I don't believe that.

[00:04:25]>> That's totally fine. But why would I think that there is like something before everything else as opposed to like an infinite regress of time?

[00:04:33]>> Because [snorts] there's no way to prove that.

[00:04:35]>> Well, I think that you could. I mean if if uh change always existed uh then that would demonstrate that so change always existed but if change always existed that means time always exists because a change goes from a past state to a present state. So all change >> both happens in time and requires time.

[00:04:53]>> Um which then means that time always existed. And because spacetime is the fundamental substance of the universe that means that the universe itself must have always existed.

[00:05:05]Yeah. Right. So when we talk about time in the universe, these are these are complicated uh topics. So time isn't God. I'm talking about God. Like >> how do we know that the the universe isn't like >> So you do believe in an infinite regressive time.

[00:05:23]>> Time is different from God.

[00:05:25]>> You just said that time is a part of God. That's totally fine. But what part of the argument would you push back on in terms of there being an infinite regress of time?

[00:05:36]>> Uh time had a start.

[00:05:41]>> Okay. Do you think change has had a start?

[00:05:45]>> Change like what do you mean change?

[00:05:46]Like any change?

[00:05:47]>> Yeah, like one thing becoming another thing.

[00:05:51]>> Yes.

[00:05:52]>> Okay. Sure. Um so you would say that there was some sort of changeless state and then a change occurred in this changeless state and it became a changing state.

[00:06:05]>> Wait, can you say that again?

[00:06:06]>> Okay. So in the beginning you think that there was a changeless state there was a state where change didn't exist and then you think that that state where change doesn't exist changed.

[00:06:18]>> Yeah. No, no, no. But that Yeah. Yeah.

[00:06:21]But it was like that. that God God is the thing that changed the thing.

[00:06:25]>> Okay. So, do you realize that that's a contradiction? Like a change occurring in a changeless state change would both exist and not exist if that happened.

[00:06:32]>> No, but the point the point is that God is the one that changed the non-existence.

[00:06:35]>> It's a contradiction still.

[00:06:38]>> How is that a contradiction?

[00:06:39]>> Because change would both exist and not exist. If a change occurs in a changeless state, if it's changeless, there's no change. If a change occurs, then change exists.

[00:06:49]So change both exists and doesn't exist.

[00:06:52]>> Okay. So then Okay. So then if we were to follow that logic, then how are we even here? How did anything happen?

[00:06:56]>> Wait. Okay. Would you can we just get like like a quick acknowledgement that change always existed?

[00:07:03]>> Change can't always exist. It's something had to come from something had to come from some something.

[00:07:08]>> But there's a contradiction.

[00:07:10]>> Yeah. But even if even if there was a contradiction, you can't prove that something came from nothing. You can't prove that.

[00:07:16]>> That's not what I believe. I think that time always existed and the universe always existed.

[00:07:20]>> Yeah, but time time isn't God. Time doesn't mean anything. Like time can always exist, but how did how did like heat things like heat and matter and weight appear?

[00:07:29]>> Why would I think that they appeared as opposed to always existing?

[00:07:35]>> How how did how did so so heat so like what what what is the first thing that ever existed? Like how does that work?

[00:07:42]>> It's an infinite regress backwards.

[00:07:43]There isn't a first thing.

[00:07:45]>> Infinite regress backwards. So of infinite regressor but I don't know what that means.

[00:07:55]>> Okay. So before any point in time there's going to be a point in time prior to it. So there is no first point in time because if there was a first point in time well for that point of time there would be a point in time before it which would make it not the first one. There is no first moment of time first heat. These things just always existed.

[00:08:16]So, heat always existed.

[00:08:18]>> Yeah, >> that makes no sense. And you and I both know that.

[00:08:23]>> You think God always existed? Why does it make no sense to say that heat always existed?

[00:08:28]>> Because heat isn't God. He is uh >> I know that heat isn't God.

[00:08:33]>> Yeah, he heat is heat is just heat like requires friction and [ __ ] Like it requires like outside sources like rubbing >> energy.

[00:08:43]>> Yeah, energy. Yeah, >> rubbing your hands together creates heat [ __ ] like that. So, >> and energy can't be created or destroyed.

[00:08:49]>> How how so even if there is a loop like what you said like there's an infinite regression and [ __ ] like that. There was a point where there was nothing.

[00:08:57]>> Why? Why would I think that? No.

[00:09:00]>> Yes, there was a point where there's there was like absolutely nothing.

[00:09:03]>> Prove it.

[00:09:04]>> Prove that there's an infinite regression. We're literally speaking hypotheticals here.

[00:09:08]>> No, I prove that.

[00:09:08]>> We're only talking about what we believe.

[00:09:10]>> Okay. So if your debate strategy relies on you like forgetting the conversation that we had five minutes ago, I'm just going to remind you of the point that you had a complete inability to respond to and then we'll have to take it from there. So time must have always existed because change must have always existed and if change exists then time exists.

[00:09:31]So there was an infinite regress. If time always existed then there never was nothing.

[00:09:39]So, how does how did t how did time like create stuff?

[00:09:45]>> That's not my claim. My claim is that stuff always existed.

[00:09:49]>> That's not true. That's impossible.

[00:09:51]Like, you keep bringing that up and you're acting like it's it's possible it's not.

[00:09:55]>> Oh, well, I've demonstrated a contradiction in the opposite. So, do you have like a substantive response or is it just no? Do you?

[00:10:02]>> Right. So, can you actually prove what you said to be a fact since you want to play that game?

[00:10:05]>> Yes. Yeah. In fact, I did it. Do you need me to put it on screen?

[00:10:09]>> All right, bet. We'll put it on screen.

[00:10:11]>> Yeah, let me Where's the notepad? Okay.

[00:10:21][cough and clears throat] Change always existed.

[00:10:24]>> All right. Change always existed.

[00:10:25]Incorrect.

[00:10:26]>> If change always existed, then time always existed.

[00:10:32]>> Therefore, time always existed.

[00:10:38]Okay, you said you disagreed with the first one, so I'm happy to further motivate that.

[00:10:45]If change did not always exist, then a changeless state changed into a changing state.

[00:11:03]But change cannot occur in a changeless state.

[00:11:10]I guess maybe I'll do like a like a little bridge between the two of these.

[00:11:15]Um, in the middle I'll do uh if a changeless state changed into a changing state then a change occurred in a changeless state.

[00:11:36]Yep, there you go.

[00:11:39]Okay. Change always existed. If a change did not always exist, then a changeless state changed into a changing state.

[00:11:47]Change all existence. No, no, no, no.

[00:11:49]Okay. So, yeah. Right here. So, you're already making mistakes. So, you're you're just in in this whole argument, you're just assuming that there's no God. You already just started assuming [laughter] that there's no God.

[00:11:58]>> Yeah. Which premise assumes that there's no God.

[00:12:00]>> Premise one. Change always change always existed.

[00:12:03]>> Change always existed is motivated by the things that are below it.

[00:12:08]>> What do you mean?

[00:12:09]So I demonstrate the truth of the first one by supporting it with another argument.

[00:12:18]So the thing that's highlighted is the argument for change always existing.

[00:12:22]>> Yeah. Saying change always existed is is just by itself is just automatically a fallacy. Like there's so many problems that go into that.

[00:12:29]>> Okay. So what would be a reputation of the highlighted portion?

[00:12:34]>> Uh what do you mean what would be what does that mean?

[00:12:36]>> Yeah, you need to disagree with 1.1 1.2 2 or 1.3.

[00:12:40]>> All right. If change did not always exist, then a changeless state changed into a changing state.

[00:12:47]Uh uh this is this is tricky. Like you're trying to trick you're trying to trick me right now.

[00:12:56]>> Yeah, I'm trying to trick you right now.

[00:12:57]Yeah.

[00:12:58]>> Yeah. What do you mean? What do you mean? If change did not did not always exist, then it changed the state changes to a changing state. You're just trying to like >> Well, okay. I can I'm happy to explain that. I know it's a bit confusing the word change appears a lot. You know, it is an argument about change always existing. So let's say change didn't always exist. So there's some state without change. But of course, right now we have a state with change. So we would have at first the state without change and then that state would change into a state with change.

[00:13:27]So that's all premise 1.1 is saying is that if change did not always exist, then there would be this changeless state and then it would change into a changing state.

[00:13:37]How? From what?

[00:13:38]>> From a changeless state. It would change into a changing state.

[00:13:43]>> From a changeless state.

[00:13:45]>> Yes.

[00:13:46]>> It would change from a changing state and then into what?

[00:13:50]>> It would change from a changeless state.

[00:13:54]>> Oh my god.

[00:13:55]>> So there would be a state with no change and a state with change and the first one would change into the second one.

[00:14:09]So, so who created changing states? How does that work? Like >> they always existed is my argument.

[00:14:14]>> So, so was there was there heat in changing was there heat and cold in changing states?

[00:14:18]>> Wait, are you just Okay, before we like pivot away, can you grant premise one?

[00:14:24]>> I'm not pivoting. I'm asking valid questions.

[00:14:27]>> Okay, we can get to that. But first, I want you to acknowledge the truth of premise one that change always existed.

[00:14:33]>> I can't. That's impossible.

[00:14:35]>> Then do you disagree with premise 1.1, 1.2?

[00:14:38]>> How can something change from nothing?

[00:14:39]How can something >> disagree with premise 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3?

[00:14:45]>> Yeah. If change did not always exist, then a changeless state changed into a changing state.

[00:14:49]>> You disagree with that?

[00:14:52]>> Yes.

[00:14:53]>> Okay. You think that change did not always exist, but also there was never a changeless state.

[00:15:00]>> Yeah. Something can't change from nothing.

[00:15:01]>> Okay. Sure. So, okay. Well, then that's just a direct contradiction. Um, >> yeah. So, the argument that you're putting forward there, um, change did not always exist, but there was never a state where change did not exist.

[00:15:25]That's what you're affirming by denying that >> change did not always exist, but there was never a state where change did not did not exist. Yeah, that that that's where God comes in. That's where God comes in.

[00:15:35]>> Is this what you believe? You think change did not always exist, but there was never a state where change did not exist.

[00:15:42]>> Uh God God makes this all um Isense.

[00:15:46]>> No, no, no. This this whole change thing is like filled with contradictions and like it's too complicated.

[00:15:50]>> No, I agree. I agree. It is a contradiction for change to change into existence. Yes, that's the that's the problem, right? There is a contradiction there which is why change must have always existed because if it didn't then there's a contradiction.

[00:16:04]>> Change did not always exist but there was never a state where change did not exist. Hold on.

[00:16:11]>> Okay, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Let me concentrate. Let me like really concentrate on this.

[00:16:15]>> Change did not always exist.

[00:16:25]Holy [ __ ] None of this makes sense, dude.

[00:16:30]>> Yeah, the thing that's highlighted is a direct contradiction. I agree.

[00:16:37]>> It's it's it's all wrong.

[00:16:39]>> I I totally agree that the thing that you've affirmed is wrong.

[00:16:58]You don't want to disagree with premise 1.1.

[00:17:01]In fact, I don't even know which premise. Oh, wait. Did Did he leave? Oh, okay. Sure. Yeah, I was waiting. I was waiting for him. Um, it's my bad. My bad, G.

[00:17:12]Um, make sure you're double tapping on that screen, sharing it with your friends, doing all that good stuff. If you're in that guest request box, make sure that you're 18 or older. Make sure that you believe in the God of the Bible, the Torah, or the Quran.

[00:17:24]I also ask that you have some sort of reason to think that God exists. If you don't know that, don't request to join.

[00:17:33]>> Ian, what's up?

[00:17:36]>> Uh, need to do a quick restart to get Twitch or to get YouTube vertical up.

[00:17:40]Um, >> that's totally fine.

[00:17:42]>> I want to show this super chat first so we don't lose it.

[00:17:46]>> Okay.

[00:17:48]Whoa. Hey, uh, uh, Chris RPG, thanks so much for the super chat. Friction and [ __ ] Intellectual giant. Yeah, we started it off tough with an intellectual powerhouse. A goddamn intellectual beater, a philosophical berserker.

[00:18:05]Yeah.

[00:18:07]Okay, we can uh restart the YouTube. I suppose.

[00:18:11]>> All right, I'll be right back.