Has Alien Disclosure Become a Religion?

Added: 2026-06-01

[00:00:00]Well, how are you feeling?

[00:00:03]>> Doing better. Feeling better. Uh crazy week, but uh we're back. A little coarse voice, but I'm doing all right. Thank you.

[00:00:12]>> You do have a voice. You do have a sick voice.

[00:00:15]>> Yep. Big time.

[00:00:17]>> So, what's the diagnosis, man? You were out for a week. What happened? Well, I had I was feeling under the weather and then uh so I was out and then on Sunday morning I had stroke like symptoms. Um I couldn't speak which was very scary.

[00:00:36]Um and so I was rushed to the hospital and uh they did a bunch of tests, MRI, CAT scan, everything. Um they couldn't figure out why. MRI came back clean. Uh turns out it was just low blood sugar, um migraine, one of those things. um kind of Monday and that made it happen.

[00:00:55]>> Stroke like symptoms, what do those entail?

[00:00:58]>> So, I was trying to speak to my wife and you know when you speak, you see people that have had strokes on TV or whatever that you just can't pronounce words correctly. So, you know exactly what you're trying to say and your brain is working, but what's coming out of your mouth is completely separate and different. It was the scariest thing that's ever happened to me in my life.

[00:01:18]Did you know it was happening or did your wife have to tell you? You're not making sense, Dan.

[00:01:23]>> At first, I didn't know it was happening. So, I was speaking thinking she could understand me, but she was looking at me like, "What is what are you saying? What are you talking about?"

[00:01:32]And she asked me like who the president was and and then what year it was and that kind of thing. And I was trying to speak. I couldn't say President Trump. I couldn't say 2026 and things like that.

[00:01:42]And then I realized that what was coming out of my mouth wasn't the right thing.

[00:01:47]And then you go into the hospital and you have all these tests and you're fine and your blood sugar was just low.

[00:01:52]>> Yeah, pretty much. And I had a migraine.

[00:01:53]Yeah. Yeah, that was pretty much it.

[00:01:56]>> Yeah.

[00:01:57]>> Is that embarrassing?

[00:01:58]>> No.

[00:01:59]>> Is it embarrassing that you think I'm having a stroke and this is a serious medical condition and I've been rushed to the hospital, but in the end I needed a cookie.

[00:02:08]>> Yeah, a little bit. I was I was very worried but it was a little uh little like uh not enough happened to make to be rushed to the hospital, right? Sorry, my brain's still coming back to coming back to life. But yeah, and then um my immune system was so shot that uh I got a viral infection after that as well.

[00:02:30]>> Oh wow. Now you um have lost something like >> 40 50 pounds almost 50 >> in six weeks. Mhm.

[00:02:39]>> 50 lbs in what period of time?

[00:02:41]>> Uh 68 days >> from trying.

[00:02:45]>> My goodness.

[00:02:46]>> Yeah, >> Dan, that's an insane amount of weight to lose in an insane amount of time.

[00:02:52]They surely said this is connected. Like you have crash dieted.

[00:02:56]>> Although I think you've done it healthy.

[00:02:58]You talked about what you're eating, the calories you're counting, and you're happy with. But that's still >> I'm sure. But it's the time compression that I'm that I'm most fascinated to lose that much weight in that short a period of time had to have contributed to whatever this was low blood sugar.

[00:03:14]>> Yeah. So apparently my pancreas that creates insulin in your body and then my kidneys weren't functioning properly. Um I don't know whether it was some from something from before or because so my body couldn't catch up my organs couldn't catch up to the weight I was losing and the diet I had changed completely everything. So, my organs were kind of just like didn't have enough time to catch up to what my what was happening in the rest of my body and it just kind of like shut down and messed with my brain and my blood flow.

[00:03:43]>> We're glad you're back. Um, I'm glad you're healthy. The texts over the weekend were were were pretty scary.

[00:03:48]>> Yeah.

[00:03:48]>> For me, Patrick was pretty unsympathetic. Uh, I think he used some words to describe you that I wouldn't repeat on air, but you know, what are you going to do with basically a monk Navy Seal of Health like like Patrick?

[00:04:01]Just charge the beaches. There's the >> There's the crow's nest. See if you can make it up to the top. Here come the the bridge is dropping. Rush out, boys.

[00:04:15]Every day within foil pat every day. The federal government yesterday published a new website with the URL aliens.gov.

[00:04:26]If you went to aliens.gov, you would see a placard that reads they walk among us.

[00:04:33]This is coming, of course, in the summer and the age of disclosure. And a lot of people were very intrigued by what is this? Is this finally the disclosure?

[00:04:41]But instead, what the White House have done is created a website to highlight illegal immigration and use aliens as the portal in which to bring people's attention to illegal immigration. A lot of people loved it and thought it was an interesting troll.

[00:04:58]Um, a lot of people hate it because they're getting very serious about the age of disclosure and they're getting very serious about the government and their demands for transparency when it comes to UFOs.

[00:05:11]I think we're a month remove from Stephen Spielberg's movie Age of Disclosure coming out and it comes at an interesting time. I think it's fair to say and this is sort of I guess the way that I work and I don't know if this is the way to work and maybe that's the characteristic of what one would describe as a contrarian but these topics and subjects are something that I'm interested in and have a great amount of curiosity until I feel like it's reached a fever pitch and it's gone beyond the realm of curiosity and then I start going well it's become something else than a thirst for knowledge. This is the same thing I thought about Epstein. I have listened to long podcasts about Epstein. I've done research on Epstein. But the minute that it becomes something that is an internet meme and comment, release the files, ped protector, it's now ceased to become something driven by curiosity. It's not something that is in any way tied to a thirst for knowledge. It's just s part of a fever and in that case a partisan fever. I'm starting to feel the same way about aliens. My curiosity is no less, but I feel like the conversation around it has gotten to the point where it has become a fever, and we've had fevers in our past. There was a there was a UFO fever in the 50s and 60s. I do think it largely went away, which is kind of interesting to think about. UFOs weren't a really big deal to item of discussion in the 80s or 90s. And it's back and we're sort of in the age of alien fever again. And I don't feel like it's driven out of any real sense of curiosity. I feel like like Epstein, in fact, it's beginning to take on some partisanship.

[00:06:52]And that makes it less interesting to me. So, I'm going to put this to you guys. I'm going to ask you, do you believe in aliens? Do you believe we are alone?

[00:07:05]Do you believe there is intelligent life out there in the universe? First, Dan, >> based on all these disclosures and everything we've seen, I'm starting to think that it's just guessing. So, no, I don't think I don't think the evidence we have and what they've shown us is proof enough for me to believe it. So, I'm going to say as it stands right now, I don't believe.

[00:07:32]>> Patrick, yes. I think that I don't necessarily think it's necessarily extraterrestrial from outside of the planet, but it's definitely something that we don't know and that we're not giving all the information about. But I do think that just like Epstein and you know now with AI data centers and things like that, it's just another one of these things that's becoming overpoliticized and and polarizing for no reason. Like just give us the information.

[00:08:01]>> They've made it harder.

[00:08:02]>> It's getting kind of ridiculous. Yeah.

[00:08:03]>> Yeah.

[00:08:06]Let's accept your premise for a moment.

[00:08:08]And I'm not being dismissive. I'm trying to be a critical thinker.

[00:08:12]Let's start with the idea. We'll get to the deeper philosophical question of whether or not we are alone. But let's start with the idea that we're not alone and they are not releasing the information and they're holding that from us. Okay, Patrick, you're the one that's forwarded that proposition. But I wouldn't say >> tell me how the >> it's kind of like Epstein, but like you're not going to all the government's not going to necessarily have all the information. So that's part of the problem is we we're expecting them to give us this data dump of the information, but they might not have everything in their in their possession.

[00:08:45]So that's also an issue.

[00:08:46]>> I feel like you just I just I feel like you just demanded them to come clean.

[00:08:50]And this is a bit tied to the current event of it. There's a presumption.

[00:08:54]There's a presumption. our current conversation that the government knows more than they're willing to share with the public, right? And that whatever more that they have in some way proves be there are there is intelligent life in the universe because what other reason would there be for them to hide the information?

[00:09:15]They would hide the information if they thought the public could not handle the information or in some way it compromised security. Either interstellar security or national security.

[00:09:31]Interstellar security is more believable than protecting national security.

[00:09:35]National security disclosure doesn't seem like it would hurt the United States in a competition with other nations.

[00:09:43]But presumably had the government some information on intelligent life that they were keeping from the public perhaps there was an edict interstellar edict not to share this with the population at large or else and it has to have an or else it have to have an enforcement mechanism of why this would be kept from us. But then we arrive at I think the biggest problem.

[00:10:07]Who is keeping this information?

[00:10:10]Exactly.

[00:10:10]>> Who is capable? Who is capable of hiding this from the public? To whom do we make this demand? Who is the keeper of the secrets? And to me, this is one of the biggest problems in any conspiracy, but notably in this one. Because you have to first say the answer to who is not political. It cannot be a political person. It cannot be the president of the United States. It cannot be a political appointee. It cannot be anyone that has any sense of limit to his time in power. If Jimmy Carter knew something, why would Jimmy Carter hold back from telling us something? And if the president of the United States is at the top of the food chain and he is one that knows, >> well, presidents only have power for so long. So why would we have a succession of presidents who would stay quiet and therefore on top of that all the political appointees under that that would be the keeper of the secrets. It's too many people required to keep too big of a secret.

[00:11:12]And by the way too big of a reward should one not keep the secret. Everyone wants to talk about the threat. Oh, if this person does disclose this thing will happen to them. But on the other side of disclosure is a massive reward.

[00:11:27]You know, it is you would be rewarded financially, notoriously, fame, and legacy. And you could theoretically disclose to such a degree that you could insulate yourself from a threat. Like, don't dribble it out. If Jimmy Carter said, "I'm going to do so. Here it is.

[00:11:45]Here's what I know. I'm putting it out there right now. This is what the United States government knows." He almost becomes untouchable. It's like in a mob movie. If you get out there too big, too fast, too well known, then they can't put out a hit on you because it's too obvious and they can try to make you look crazy. But if you get high enough up in the food chain, that even get that gets even more hard. How do you discredit Donald Trump? How do you do away with Donald Trump? So the keeper of the secrets to me would have to be someone that is apolitical, that is the proverbial deep state, that is their in constancy. Now, that also I don't think is easily explainable because we're talking about a phenomenon now that is going on 70 years. So, you have to pass on those secrets. You have to have a department that can keep those secrets. You have to have multiple people that can keep those secrets. And believe it or not, I do believe that this requires the belief in competency too much of human beings. Secrets are hard to keep. And one of the problems I have with kind of your approach to many of these issues, Patrick, is you give away too much competency to people behind doors that you have not been behind. And I've been behind a lot of doors. I haven't been behind all the doors, but I've been behind a lot of doors. And one of the first things you realize when you get behind a door, this room is not filled with geniuses.

[00:13:09]>> This room is not filled with moral clarity. This room is not filled with um whatever is required along the spine to keep a secret.

[00:13:22]Exactly, Dan. They're filled with people just like other people. And all of these secrets and conspiracies require a different kind of person and in fact a lot a group of a lot of different kinds of people that you simply don't see in life. You just don't run into these people. They're not good. People are bad at competency and keeping secrets. And so I'm just starting with this one because I have someplace else I want to go with this. The idea that the government has a lot more. They may have more. They may have a little bit. And I do think, by the way, the information is dispersed. I don't think there's one room. I don't think there's one dis department. I think from what I have been led to believe a lot of these files and videos are scattered. Some at NASA, some at FBI, some at CIA. But that also, by the way, Patrick, undercuts the idea that you could keep a secret. Now you got multiple agencies, multiple doors, multiple rooms, suggesting there's no greater knowledge. There's no confirmation of alien contact they'd be keeping from us. just a scattered amount of information that is at best unexplainable. Go ahead, Patrick.

[00:14:36]>> So, I disagree with that. You can do it if you compartmentalize everything. So, you can be in the hands of a few people and then people only know based on >> the big picture.

[00:14:49]>> Well, the big picture is like, you know, there might be somebody at the top. Who knows? But like if you know like what they did with the Manhattan project, you knew this little piece of the Manhattan project, you didn't know what the person next to you was doing and what they were the next person was doing. And so like you can have a conspiracy that's very limited and people can be involved in it and not even know.

[00:15:16]>> But there has to be at the top that can look at all that, right? Is what you're saying.

[00:15:19]>> Yeah. Yeah. I mean like and that's what the deep state is potentially. And so, but it doesn't have to be a lot of people within the deep state who actually have the knowledge. It can be a select few people who have the knowledge. Um, yeah.

[00:15:33]>> And and by the way, and by the way, let me ask you, okay, and I'm my my thought process is the same as Dan's. A, we know about the Manhattan Project.

[00:15:44]B, you require an organizer at the top of this decompartmentalization. you require something to suggest here will be the strategy in order to keep this from ever being released. So you have created a pyramid and that pyramid has a point at the top and so there's someone some group some organization that is again the maintainer of the secrets. You've only described to me what you think is a way to keep the numbers down at a decentralized lower level, but it does funnel up to a top the strategizer, the organizer, >> not the president, >> the person or people in charge. Correct.

[00:16:24]Not the president. Now, let me ask you this. If you're zipping around up there on a UFO and you come from Alpha Centauri, how does your presence get contained to the group that you just described? How does it not reach the political realm?

[00:16:44]How do you not want to speak to the leader of the free world? How is it not something that gets to the president?

[00:16:50]How is it that you this information was contained at that top of the funnel?

[00:16:58]There is a funnel. You describe it.

[00:16:59]There's a top of the pyramid.

[00:17:01]>> Mhm.

[00:17:01]>> How did contact get to those people and how did it get kept within those people?

[00:17:07]>> So, I do think that a lot of a lot of this information does come out. I don't think it's like as secret as we make it make it out to be, but I think that a lot of the people who leak it end up being discredited. So like we think about >> one of the missing scientists um >> I can't remember her name. Monica, >> what was her name? Monica Resza >> or No, no, it was the uh the crazy one.

[00:17:35]The one who we we all think is crazy, right?

[00:17:38]>> Yeah. Amy >> in Alabama. Amy Esridge. and we just kind of discount what she says because she sounds crazy, but what if she's telling the truth and there could be all these kind of people out there telling the truth, but >> she might not know everything. She may have known one little thing and that's possible >> and that's possible too.

[00:17:53]>> There's no direct answers to the problem. Like there's no real overarching >> but I'm saying there there's so much information that comes out about things that it's very it's very easy to dis discount people and what they're having to say. Also, I I mean like there are people who claim to have had contact with aliens who aren't higher up and so like >> uh like uh Dr. Steven Greer who was on Tyrus's show and so you know those kind of people do exist and so that that's why the disclosure is still out there somewhat.

[00:18:24]>> That's the big difference too. There's a difference between seeing UFOs and then have has someone contacted them, right?

[00:18:30]That's a those are two different things also.

[00:18:33]So if this organization >> Well, I want I want to clarify something here.

[00:18:37]These these conversations always go in a direction and they it irritates me actually because it's a it's the weirdest conversation and then it pushes people into their corners. Like in the comment section right now it'll be you know whatever the government's got control of Will or Will's an incurious person or he's dismissive and that's not the truth. I will watch Age of Disclosure. I'm listening to another podcast as we speak talking through the scientific analysis of the existence of aliens. What I'm actually doing is applying critical thought because we we we get pushed into this corner of oh, you're entirely too dismissive. You're a you're a uh an NPC. You're just FL versus you're a conspiracy theorist and a gullible dummy. And and I don't think either of those are interesting positions to sit in. They're just not interesting to me. Don't you think it's weird if you ever look at a global map of UFO sightings that it overwhelmingly indexes to the United States?

[00:19:40]>> It's not to say there haven't been some in other parts of the world, >> but it's it's a matter scale of like at least 10 to one.

[00:19:47]>> Have you seen >> 10 to one at easy easy 10 to one? United States versus other parts of the world.

[00:19:53]Have you seen the map of tornado activity in the world? Like somebody just shared it recently. It's like the US is like easily the center of of tornado activity. There's there's hardly any tornado tornadoes have to do. What do tornadoes have to do with aliens?

[00:20:11]>> What What does al What does alien activity in the US have to do? You have just described to me you you have just described to me a um meteorological aberration and there's plenty of reasons for that and whatever happens in the climate in this part of the world activity.

[00:20:25]>> What what would be do you have a meteorological meteorological explanation of why aliens would only be interested in New Mexico as opposed to Germany?

[00:20:36]>> We got BDE man that we're we're America.

[00:20:39]We're number one.

[00:20:40]>> Says something about Americans that there are more sightings here.

[00:20:46]>> Like what? You're going to go You're gonna go hang out at like in like Colombia.

[00:20:50]Like who the hell are they?

[00:20:52]>> Great. Or America.

[00:20:53]>> I love that logic.

[00:20:55]>> We're the ones with nukes. We were the ones who nuked people.

[00:20:58]>> Nobody else nuked anybody.

[00:20:59]>> Interesting.

[00:21:01]>> They they travel across galaxies. Yeah.

[00:21:04]>> Perhaps just within our galaxy. They're so technologically advanced that they can do something that we are potentially thousands of years of away from capable of doing.

[00:21:15]>> Interstellar travel is incredibly scientifically difficult. Obviously, you know, the ability to travel at the speed of light. What do you do when you travel at the speed of light? You hit a piece of cosmic dust at the speed of light and it's I just heard this is the equivalent of two tons of >> two two tons of TNT explosion like we can't go fast enough. We can't we can't uh protect a ship that would go that fast. We have no but they can but they can they can do all of that. And they get here and they look at the difference between us and the Russia and go those people are significantly more advanced.

[00:21:55]Those people are badass.

[00:21:57]nukes. Look at these people. They That would be like us looking at an ant pile and going that pile is way more sophisticated than this pile. We should definitely focus our efforts on this ant pile.

[00:22:10]>> Yeah.

[00:22:11]>> That something that far advanced from us, something that far advanced of us would literally probably have no ability to distinguish us from prehistoric man.

[00:22:22]They wouldn't look at they wouldn't look at um the greater Newark area and go these people are way more civilized than the people in Mumbai.

[00:22:34]>> Yeah.

[00:22:35]>> First of all, America has won way more Super Bowls than any other country.

[00:22:42]>> Yeah.

[00:22:42]>> More World Series championships. Of course, we're better. Also, when you go and look at ant piles, we we we go and judge ant piles all the time. Freaking African killer ants or whatever come out of an ant pile, we go we're like, "Oh, those are way badass. We got to worry about them. We talk about them all the time about how they spread here and there." And like, we're always concerned about these the worst. We We can >> like aliens are American is the is the consensus here.

[00:23:08]>> He's saying super into football >> and beer and barbecue.

[00:23:16]But I also said that I I don't necessarily believe that they're they're uh outside of of space.

[00:23:22]>> I think they were here before we were I think they've been here since before humans. That's my theory.

[00:23:27]>> Okay, that's a that's another angle that I want to do one more angle on this because if if the Friday episode of the Will Kane Country is simply what's been on Will's mind, then this has been something that is on my mind. Not because not because the White House has published aliens.gov, but because we've we are reaching a fever pitch. I mean, Joe Rogan is questioning why Fox News and Jesse Waters are talking about the four different types of aliens, the Nordics, the Grays, the Insectoids, and the Reptilians. And Joe Rogan is questioning whether or not the fact that Fox News is talking about it suggests the government is now slow dripping it out to boomers so that we'll be ready for disclosure when it happens. And can I just tell you that is insane.

[00:24:22]That is insane. That theory, that pondering like it I I love so much about Joe Rogan, but it so much shows that he's never been inside of a major media organization. And that can be to his credit, but he has no idea what he's talking about and how this works. I don't know how they would even talk to me. I am in Dallas. They would they text me? Would the bosses text me? I don't answer my Fox News address and they all know that. Mr. Murdoch could email me at Fox.com and I would never get it. So, this idea that there's some super sophisticated governmentcoordinated drip on the Nordics versus the Grays hasn't reached the satellite studios of Dallas.

[00:25:04]Let me just tell you that. Okay, I'm out here doing my thing.

[00:25:09]>> Maybe I'm not in the know. That's the obvious rebuttal to that.

[00:25:12]>> Will, you're not in the room.

[00:25:15]>> Okay, Jesse got invited into the room and I got left out and I'm super offended. I'm not in on the government drip of insectoids, but that's very possible. But again, this co the presumption of coordination is just in defiance of common sense.

[00:25:34]>> Let's get a little smarter on this. So, this I've told you guys before about the fairmy paradox. I don't find it as compelling as many scientists do. The Fairmy paradox is famously um I think his first name was uh Emil I can't remember exactly the first name. Fairmy.

[00:25:50]He was a a a physicist on the Manhattan project. And in the 19 in 1950, they're all sitting around. They're perfecting the nuclear bomb. The Manhattan Project didn't end after we dropped the bombs on Japan. It continued on as we perfected, you know, nuclear proliferation.

[00:26:05]>> Eno >> and they're all sitting in the cafeteria in Rico Fermy. They're all sitting around the cafeteria talking about what we're talking about right now. It's exactly what the smartest men in the world were doing in the 1950s. And Fairmy looked up and Fairmy looked up and said, "Where is everybody?" And these scientists presumably knew exactly what he meant. That if aliens were capable of visiting Earth, where is everybody? that it doesn't make any sense that we wouldn't know an alien, that a neighbor, a coworker wouldn't be an alien, that if they were capable of doing what they had done, and that is getting here, they're capable of so much more. So why play hide the ball?

[00:26:51]Why why do this or that? They would be not only here, but obvious to us.

[00:26:57]There's no reason to hide. And he does walk through this particular show. votes with a man named Josh Clark. All the counterarguments, right, that the counterarguments are that they're uninterested in us, that they're treating us like a zoo, uh simply watching us. Um all all the different kind of arguments. But what I find really fascinating is instead a different theory, the great filter theory. Okay? And I'm really into this one right now. So, one of the arguments for the idea that there is intelligent life in the universe is simply the expansive nature of the universe, right?

[00:27:34]And it I've never been a space guy. I'm not really not only it hasn't maintained my curiosity and I'm not smart enough to totally get it, but like how big is the Milky Way itself, the galaxy? How many stars aka suns? How many planets around each star? How many millions of light years across or hundreds of thousands of light years across? And then on top of that, the millions and billions of galaxies in the universe, right? The Milky Way is gigantic. Gigantic. If we simply looked for planets that were are in what's called the Goldilock zone, which is where we exist on Earth, right?

[00:28:14]Not too hot, not too cold. Potential to create atmosphere, potential for life to develop. There are I think what what is it thousands maybe millions of planets in the Milky Way. And then you go beyond, right? And you're talking about infinite number. And that's our that's our human conception of life. And that's one of the things I always have trouble with in these things. Like we have our own prison through which we view things.

[00:28:37]And what is life? But you do have to accept a premise of what is life at some point. Like what is life? You know, organisms that can reproduce that can they're capable of of of um evolving into intelligent life, intelligent uh beings.

[00:28:54]But you need an atmosphere presumably by the way that we we envision life. The atmosphere doesn't have to be just like ours I presume. But it has to be, you know, that's the only way we know life has been able to be. There's no life on colder planet and there's no life on warmer planets in our little solar system. Um so you start going through this and you go, "Wow, there's just too many opportunities. There's too many planets, right? And yet we haven't found anything.

[00:29:22]We've looked. Are we capable of looking at a closer level? Nothing has contacted us that we know of unless there's this great conspiracy to keep it from us.

[00:29:32]And so what happens is the math begins to turn in on itself. You see what I'm saying? Instead of the math becoming an open question, the math becomes a self-defeating question.

[00:29:40]>> Right? with that much opportunity for life. The fact that there isn't s or no evidence to us yet that there is suggests we are alone. And then you go one step further. Okay, and that's the great filter. Okay, the great filter is what happened here.

[00:30:01]Maybe the conditions do exist, but the exact combination of things that have to happen for there to be life.

[00:30:11]This is interesting. Matthew, start thinking about it here. Our planet, like I was this morning, I was listening to this. Our pro, let's just go with us.

[00:30:20]Our proximity from the sun, perfect, right? Little further, Mars, no good.

[00:30:26]Little closer, Mercury, bad. Our moon.

[00:30:30]Our moon is like super important to life on Earth. And it is super rare. Most planets don't have a moon as big as ours as close as it is to us and doesn't have its own >> rotational axis.

[00:30:45]>> It sits still. It sit the moon sits still basically. You know what I mean?

[00:30:49]It doesn't spin.

[00:30:50]>> We only see one side of the moon. And all of that is super integral to the development of life on Earth. There's more. Jupiter. I thought about this.

[00:31:00]Everybody ever asked me a trivia question like what's what's most important to Earth's life on Earth? The answer is maybe Jupiter. I mean besides the sun, like what other Jupiter is a very very very unique planet. It is huge. It is gaseous. It's got I think an ice and metallic core and it's got a big gravitational pull. So what does that mean?

[00:31:23]All the stuff that could end life on Earth, like all the meteoroids, the asteroids, the stuff that would hit gets pulled into uh Jupiter's gravity doesn't hit us. It's like our own little protector beam >> sitting for us right there.

[00:31:35]>> One of them.

[00:31:37]>> But you start adding these things together. And by the way, that's just a start. Then you start adding together like you know um plate tectonics and how rare it is for that to create you know magma, ocean, rain, an an climate that that produces you know tidal pools ultimately and and the ability for cells to start organizing and reproducing in ways that lead to plants that lead eventually to humans. And by the way time becomes a factor too. You have to have enough time for all this to happen.

[00:32:10]And time, we're unique on that front. Again, we're super stable. Our sun is very unique.

[00:32:18]Any hotter, it burns out too fast. Any colder and it doesn't give us the appropriate temperature that we need to create conducive life. My point is, you start doing the math and all this stuff, you start to think, man, Earth is really, really mathematically unique for its ability to create life.

[00:32:38]Now, again, I'm not saying I'm just trying to think this is more interesting than simply the world of infinite possibility. And by the way, one more thing, that's the optimistic view of the filtering combination of math that led to life here. There is a pessimistic view as well and that is all those other planets that I discussed that have the seemingly right conditions, they did create life. They did and they're dead.

[00:33:05]That those civilizations died and there's something to come, right?

[00:33:11]There's something to come for us. We're not yet through the great filter. That there's something yet for us to encounter that is existentially threatening to life. and how we perceive time is >> I don't >> like it's so small compared to everything else.

[00:33:27]>> So that's >> the time thing is it's a great point Dan the time thing is is really hard to wrap your mind around like >> how much time is required for all this and how little time we have >> been here and aware >> our lifespan >> and it makes this really interesting and how quickly we evolved.

[00:33:47]>> Yeah. I mean it's it's it's crazy. I mean, and and time isn't really we don't even know what time is anyways. I mean, in the terms of the universe, you get into quantum entanglement and all these things. It's just it's it's insane. So, >> and then let me Patrick, I do want to hear your rebuttal to some of this if you have one, but there is one more component that I can't escape from when I listen to these scientific sort of analyses of this. And that is what they still can't figure out is how basically living elements. So whatever that is proteins basically, right? You start with proteins and then proteins organize into cells and cells can organize themselves into the very very it's chaos at the beginning and then it starts getting more organized and then reproduction. They really can't tell you how that starts. They can't they can't tell you like how chaos becomes organized. They can't tell you how all these conditions that are unique to Earth. And therefore, you have this little growth of a protein starts organizing itself into a combination of things that ultimately becomes me talking into a zoom with you guys.

[00:34:54]And that's where you get God. Like when you I know that human beings have always used the concept of gods to explain the unexplainable but scientists do not know what animates life. They do not. They can break it down into its core components, but they can't explain how it all comes together.

[00:35:13]>> And that's where God comes back and fine, whatever yet. Fine, whatever.

[00:35:22]>> But you know, in science, they do talk about basically the God particle. They can't even outside of the concept of life, Dan, they can't explain why electrons and protons got animated to some degree.

[00:35:33]>> Fine. But they do talk about like the unexplainable at the most fundamental levels of this stuff.

[00:35:38]>> Sure.

[00:35:39]>> And maybe there's more explanations to come.

[00:35:41]>> But I don't think the existence of aliens undercuts >> faith. I I don't think it does.

[00:35:48]>> That's that will be my approach. If the government says, "Hey, there are aliens." That won't make me question the existence of God. Maybe for some it will, >> but >> I think um I think that ultimately it's kind of odd for me to say that if that doesn't make me question the existence of God, then why if we're alone makes me stronger? Makes me feel stronger in the belief of God. Do you see what I'm saying? For this to all be so mathematically special takes you back to the idea of creation. I guess that's where I go with this. If we are against every odd and it's against every odd that we are alone and mathematically everything becomes unexplainable. Well, yeah.

[00:36:37]Well, yeah.

[00:36:38]>> Yeah.

[00:36:38]>> Wouldn't that be the case if it was the product of creation and God? Okay, that's it. Go ahead, Patrick.

[00:36:49]>> It just sounds like a bunch of gobbly to me. I think I'm like a flatearther now. I didn't even know the moon didn't move like that. Like that sounds ridiculous.

[00:37:00]>> I mean, it's kind of funny, but also like, how do you always peer and squint at things then as though somebody's keeping the truth from you when you don't pay attention to the most obvious truth that's right there for everyone to read?

[00:37:13]>> Just saying. I mean, like, maybe their aliens aren't here because they can't get through the firmament.

[00:37:20]>> Maybe it was there the whole time.

[00:37:21]>> It sounds like a collection of words you used. Yeah.

[00:37:23]>> Together.

[00:37:24]>> Yeah.

[00:37:24]>> What do you mean can't get through the firmament?

[00:37:26]>> We're inside a dome.

[00:37:29]>> I mean, if you're seeing the same side of the moon the whole time, >> don't encourage him.

[00:37:33]>> I didn't even know this was a thing.

[00:37:36]Ridiculous.

[00:37:39]Maybe we are set.

[00:37:40]>> There is a radiation belt, but you know, we could get outside of it, right? There are pockets. It's not one big belt.

[00:37:45]There are little areas.

[00:37:47]>> Oh, they couldn't figure it out for a while there.

[00:37:49]>> So, all these science >> Did you quit listening to me? Did you quit listening to me like a third of the way into what I was saying?

[00:37:54]>> Absolutely.

[00:37:54]>> How far into what I was saying did you quit listening? I'm just curious.

[00:37:58]>> I got the gist of it.

[00:38:00]>> I saw it on his face, too. He looks down.

[00:38:02]>> Yeah, I kind of did, too. I had >> I was trying to I was looking at this moon thing.

[00:38:09]>> He absolutely did. That's hilarious.

[00:38:12]>> You know, the current theory is that the moon was part of Earth.

[00:38:16]that another planetary uh early in Earth's um creation, another planetary body hit Earth, >> caved off the moon >> and those elements of that planetary body are, you know, integrated into the Earth's elements and the moon was that's why it's so close and that's why it's so large.

[00:38:35]>> I will say I just I just don't think that people really know what the hell they're talking about. Even the smartest people >> really whole lives doing it.

[00:38:43]>> They don't know Jack. They know nothing.

[00:38:46]They know nothing. We all know nothing.

[00:38:48]The look >> from the top to the bottom. It's like it's really not that big a gap.

[00:38:55]>> Do you know how we can tell how big the Milky Way?

[00:38:57]>> You're not making me feel. I I'm even if I were inclined to agree with you, your performance today does not help.

[00:39:03]>> No, no. I'm saying I'm saying maybe you're right. Maybe there is nothing being hidden. Maybe nobody knows any. I just >> I'm listening to this astrophysicist right on a podcast and she spent her >> a moment ago you a moment ago you gave so much competency to the top that they could hide ultimate truth from the bottom. Now you're arguing that there is no the the top has no idea what they're talking about and there not that difference from the dude that's cooking squatted down on the streets of Mumbai cooking food with his hands.

[00:39:30]>> You convinced me. Yeah, you convinced me.

[00:39:32]>> Wow.

[00:39:33]>> Which way? Which way did I convince you?

[00:39:35]He's speaking in such generalities >> that nothing. Yeah.

[00:39:43]>> Um let's before we go today move this in a direction that maybe Patrick's a bit more comfortable because as I've gotten to know him over time, he was first introduced to me through the world of sports and where his conspiracies can find greater purchase.

[00:39:56]>> Here we go.

[00:39:56]>> So, um Texas Tech coach Joey Maguire has called out Steve Scarkeesian's bluff. dares Texas to play Texas Tech in week one.

[00:40:07]That's from Outkick. They're all over this. I get Fox News is on this.

[00:40:12]>> Everyone's all over.

[00:40:12]>> Okay, so S really >> Trey Walls. Trey W Trey Walls is just reporting reporting the truth. He probably, you know, talked about Sarkc's uh comments to start this thing.

[00:40:24]>> What? So, explain to me Sarks, you know what's funny? I could tell you about everything about who they're recruiting and like I read about UT almost every other day, I would say. But this I I this is the type of thing it's I don't know. It is everybody hates. What did Stark do? He said the Texas Tech schedule was easy.

[00:40:43]>> He No, he he says, "Hey, we could play a schedule of a certain Texas college with our twos and threes and and win a national championship." and he didn't call him out specifically because he's kind of, you know, one of those words that I was saying that you can't repeat about Dan. And uh >> it's a call back, Dan. It's a call back from earlier.

[00:41:07]>> Got it.

[00:41:07]>> And uh call back. You called him You called him a wussy with a different first letter off air. You didn't even call it on air. So if you do it on air, it's not a call back for anybody.

[00:41:17]>> It was a call back to you saying that I did it anyway. So then Joey Maguire then calls out Sarkc. He's like, "Well, you know, we're who you're talking about."

[00:41:26]And so that's where this this whole thing started. And then our good friend Cody Campbell put up his m money where where his mouth is and he said, "We will buy out both of our opponents, week one opponents, so we can play."

[00:41:44]So I don't think that I don't think Texas is going to do it.

[00:41:49]>> So no, why would you? Why would you? So Cody Campbell has said, you know, schools like um Abene Christian and Texas State, Texas Tech's first game against Abene Christian, Texas's first games against Texas State, they get payouts to play those games. That's why these colleges do it, by the way.

[00:42:08]>> Yeah. Oh yeah.

[00:42:09]>> Like why would why would they go >> Yeah. It's not fun. Why would they sign up for 70 to nothing? Right. Yeah.

[00:42:16]>> And the answer is what what is the answer? Is it $10 million? Is it $5 million? I don't know what the payout is. Uh 10 sounds high, doesn't it?

[00:42:24]>> Five.

[00:42:25]>> I think it used to be like it used to be like 500,000. I mean, like 20 years ago and then it's like crept up. I remember we lost Florida State lost to Jacksonville State and we paid him like 1.3. So I by now it has to be what 5 million or so. Yeah. At least >> probably under a little under maybe. So Cody Camel's offered to pay, let's call it, the combined $6 million um to those two schools to clear the slate for um Texas to Texas Tech to play week one.

[00:42:58]This is good old-fashioned college football trash talk. The kind of which we we need. This is actually good. Okay, that's my first take. This is good.

[00:43:07]>> Agreed.

[00:43:08]>> This is good. You guys know that um I believe that college football, this is what we hope we don't lose in college football, right? Like as we turn into Texas versus Ohio State and you know, two conferences and a national brand.

[00:43:25]This we lose the heart and soul of college football, which to me to me at least the way I grew up is hate your neighbor.

[00:43:32]>> Local rivalry, >> you know, hate your cousin.

[00:43:34]>> Yes. Exactly.

[00:43:35]>> Hate your neighbor, hate your cousin.

[00:43:37]That's what it is.

[00:43:38]>> What it needs.

[00:43:38]>> And so this is a bit of that. It also reminds me of like just good oldfashioned 1970s style coach trash talking each other. Like you don't get a lot of this anymore. I feel like it's coming back a little bit with Pete Golding and Davo going at each other.

[00:43:55]You know, Davo's mad at Old Miss for tampering.

[00:43:59]>> Um >> which by the way, I'm 100% sure they did. And they do. I mean, Pete Golding basically admitted it. I feel like, didn't he? He's like, >> "There's an accusation.

[00:44:07]>> Look what was happening."

[00:44:10]Pete Golding's answer to that was, "Look what happened to us." You know, basically LSU tampering to take away the coach at Old Miss. So, this like college football coaches talking trash to each other like this um is good as well. It will not happen.

[00:44:29]Like the whole thing and I think Texas in particular is an example of why it won't happen. You know, Texas schedules Ohio State and loses and doesn't go to the College Football Playoff. Now, you can make a good argument. I'm not here to say you can't OSU. That's why Texas >> Listen to me.

[00:44:46]>> They lost a 4 and8 Florida.

[00:44:50]>> Let let me let me explain something to you, Patrick. It all matters. If Texas had not if Texas had not scheduled Ohio State and just put another W on the board, they would have been in the playoff. That floor loss would have not kept them out of the playoff. That is mathematically a fact. You're also right. If Texas lost to Ohio State and instead beat Florida as well, they'd be in the playoff. But the point is when you look at it and you say, "Why do I schedule a hard game if the losing the hard game is what keeps me out of the playoff?" Then teams won't do it.

[00:45:20]>> I'm not here to tell you, oh, Texas definitely should have been in the playoff last year, but I can read incentives. And if you can't read incentives, this is like you not understanding the moon. You don't understand how people work.

[00:45:32]See, you think it's just an excuse. I'm telling you, you would do it. What you don't understand is you, if I if I made you, if I made you the AD of Texas and you lost Ohio State and you know, had you not lost that game, you'd been in the playoffs in the future, you would not schedule that game.

[00:45:49]>> You indefensible, too, >> because because we have this whole >> we have an image to uphold. We have we, you know, we're chickens, so we have to, you know, back up. But I'm saying Bobby Bowen in the 1980s, okay? He said, "I'll play anybody anywhere." He would go to all the big schools in the 80s and he'd play Miami and Florida every year at a conference when they were independent and he missed out on multiple national championships because he played all the tough schools and he'd lose a couple extra games here or there. So, it's like, you know, it's so interesting to hear you guys talk tough.

[00:46:26]>> What?

[00:46:28]>> You just talk tough.

[00:46:30]And you wouldn't >> build a dynasty, >> huh?

[00:46:33]>> If you were AD at Florida State, you would schedule psis to put wins on the record and then go win the games that you have to win to get into the playoff.

[00:46:42]That's what you would do.

[00:46:43]>> Lame, though.

[00:46:43]>> No. No, I wouldn't.

[00:46:45]>> It is lame. That's not I'm not giving you a value judgment. I'm giving you what I'm explaining to you is human incentive.

[00:46:54]>> You're right. And if you can't understand the incentive, I'm trying to put into the prism of how you would behave. You would behave the same way >> or you lose your job.

[00:47:05]>> Why would you behave in a way that's disincentivized or lose your job? Yeah.

[00:47:09]>> Yeah.

[00:47:10]>> I don't know. I mean, C, >> why would you >> why would you counterun incentives?

[00:47:17]>> I don't know. I just have uh I'm a little crazy, a little insane.

[00:47:20]>> He would have the job for six months.

[00:47:22]I'd be like, "Sorry, bud. probably.

[00:47:24]>> Yeah.

[00:47:26]>> Yeah. I've already signed like multiple uh long-term deals with my head against the wall.

[00:47:35]>> Something about this reminds me of this quote that's in my office that one of the guys that works in the Dallas studios wrote. It reads, "The television news business is is what? Let me see if I can remember it.

[00:47:52]The television news business is a long, shallow plastic money trench filled with pimps and thieves where good men go to die.

[00:48:01]>> Dude, I mean, let's be honest. But that's savage.

[00:48:07]>> I was like, which am I a pimp? Am I a thief? What am I or am I soon to die? I don't know.

[00:48:14]>> Go pimp status.

[00:48:15]>> Um, but I haven't never figured out the blackout. Yeah.

[00:48:22]>> All right. As is always the case, never know what's going to happen on this Friday episode. What we appreciate you hanging out today. We hope you will follow us on Spotify or Apple. It's been an hour. We'll see you again next time.