Newell ‘handball’ goal | Gassama penalty claim | Maeda ‘offside’ goal - Des Roache on big VAR calls

Added: 2026-05-13

[00:00:00]key moment as Celtics's opening goal. Um Douglas Ross uh as the linesman, he puts the flag up and says that it shouldn't stand. Dais Maida was offside. Um there's a whole bunch of various issues around this. What's your what's your take?

[00:00:26]The first one is that you don't see it in the clip that we've been shown there, but everybody's seen it on social media and we've seen it on on live screens.

[00:00:33]Douglas Ross wasn't in position to give that call.

[00:00:38]>> Douglas Ross was five yards behind it.

[00:00:40]So, what did Well, there you go. There we see it. So, what's that? Looking at the cut of grass, three, four yards, five yards behind play. So, and we know how quick Celtic attack. When you look at that picture there, it's very, very, very difficult. But when you see the lines that were drawn, the lines that were drawn shows the ball slightly ahead, fractionally ahead of Maida. And if the ball's cut back, you can't be offside. But it was the it was the lines that were drawn that drew the drew. Looking at it there, you think yes, that looks offside. But you can only go with the technology. And if we've got to trust the technology, then the technology showed that he was behind the ball. So therefore, we've got to accept it that he was on side.

[00:01:28]>> Couple of things. I'm I'm the last man in the world that's going to stand up for Douglas Ross. I wouldn't fancy running the line trying to keep up with Dais.

[00:01:37]>> No, no, no. Certainly not. But again, that's the reading of the game, isn't it? That's what you do. But again, when you are caught out, which these things may happen, that's you've got to trust technology because if we can't trust it, then why have it? So, >> well, this this this brings us back to a conversation we had earlier this season, doesn't it? Because >> yeah, >> I I was quite I was perfectly happy to trust the technology in terms of the the drawing of lines because I just thought that was activated by computers, AI, whatever it is. It's just factually correct. There was an incident earlier this season where you threw a spanner on my works with that one and said that no that that that's that's there's an element of subjectivity and it being open to interpretation is so so I went from a situation where I'm happy to take the the offside sort of ruling and the lines getting drawn on as that's just factually correct. there's an element now that that you of doubt in that and when when you do look at these people are saying it's almost as if um Alistar Johnson's wearing Crusty the Clown's Predators uh cuz but what's what's your view on that? I mean that does that look fairly conclusive to you? Does does the line look a bit squinty?

[00:02:59]I'm I'm you. I'm and I hate to do I trust it.

[00:03:04]>> I want to trust it.

[00:03:06]>> I've got to trust it. I've got to believe in the the technologies there.

[00:03:10]Do I have doubts in it? Yes. Like everybody else, we've got doubts. We're looking at the same picture, seeing different lines being drawn and almost having altered images in in your own head. It's it's it's a minefield. It's an absolute minefield.

[00:03:28]But I've got to trust the guys. Do I believe in it wholeheartedly? I have my doubts. We look at it there. He looks onside because he's behind the ball. We see other views. We think, "Oh, is he not?" And as you say, I've been now going, "Somebody's wearing a size nine and somebody's wearing a size 10." And that's keep me on side.

[00:03:48]>> That would be a bit mad. But >> that's almost what we're getting. But but when when these things are so marginal, so close, surely we want to be in the side of the attacking team at that point.

[00:03:59]>> Yeah. You don't want to be you don't want to be corrupt with fancy reasons to chop off.

[00:04:04]>> What you're doing there is you're killing the entertainment.

[00:04:07]>> But I do what I would come back to is if we had the proper technology, technology that you knew was factually correct, none of us are having these crazy arguments afterwards. So you look at the the system they've got and I know it's the English Premier League. I know they can, you know, throw money at it, but their stuff seems to me to be fail safe in terms of offside decisions.

[00:04:29]>> So what what's what's the what's the phrase I've used for four years? We've got VA light.

[00:04:36]>> Yeah.

[00:04:36]>> And it's the it's the clubs who are paying for it. They're the guys who are putting the money in out their pockets to pay for this system if you're going to have it. And I know we heard Willie Collins um his V review show and he says that I don't know if he was having a slight dig at us here but when he said we don't have watered down versions of it. We've got the best. We clearly don't have the best. Clearly >> we clearly don't >> as as will be indicated at the World Cup this summer when you see the technology that that you know that that's used at the top level and the version that we've got.

[00:05:10]>> Yeah. Was it I think Mick Gan says, "We've get Fisher Price bar, haven't we?" So, >> in the in the comments, Badger says, "From now on, you can only play if you're a size N." And Chick, who's a Celtic man, he says, "Keith, it's not the line that was squinty. It's actually the sixyard box." So, that's good of him to keep his the groundsman's getting it now.

[00:05:32]>> Yeah, thanks for that. That's good.

[00:05:34]Painted squinty. Um, we've got other comments coming in. This one from Muno.

[00:05:38]He's made a prediction. He says that he reckons Keith you're going to try and gaslight Dez about the Hibs hand ball tonight and Rebel says predicting Dez will agree the hips go was a no no. So Dez, what are you thinking?

[00:05:53]>> Means >> I think he means that you're going to say it wasn't a hand ball. Try and persuade Dez it should have been a goal.

[00:06:00]>> No, >> I don't.

[00:06:03]First of all, I don't know. I didn't know what gaslighting meant either.

[00:06:07]Maybe I'm too old for these technology or terminologies. Now, what do I think of the the the goal from John?

[00:06:16]It's a hand ball. It's hit his t-shirt line and then it's rolled down his arm and then it's come off maybe just above his above his wrist. I think the fact that Joe looked a we bit sheepish after he scored it thinking what's going to be given here.

[00:06:33]That's hand ball. Yes, it's hit his t-shirt line, but it's then continued down his arm and he's then scored from it. I mean, I know they've come out and said it's not conclusive, but that is as excl conclusive as anything there.

[00:06:49]That's a hand ball. It should never have been a goal.

[00:06:51]>> How I mean, a couple of comments saying inexplicable and it is. How do you look at that and not think, you know, that's that's a hand ball?

[00:06:59]I don't know. Flamox is me. No, >> I tell you I tell you what fl everybody though des and you pointed this out.

[00:07:08]>> Ver am I right in thinking they didn't call the ref over the monitor to to look at that.

[00:07:14]>> Yes. So this is obviously what we spoke about earlier. The thing that I thought was was very evident when we seen now we've also got another instance going four major incidents from this. I don't think David Dickinson went across to do an onfield review at any point. It was all done through VAR. And to me, that's VAR refereeing the game. So that's it re-refereeing. It's not It's not the official being saying, "Why don't you come across and do it?" Then it's his opinion.

[00:07:44]>> You You're in charge. You're the man in the middle. I don't think you've seen it, right? Come, come to the screen.

[00:07:50]Take a look.

[00:07:51]>> And that's And what does it say? Video assistant. Referee is there to assist it. That's not video. I'll make the decision referee. That's not what it should be. But that is the video assistant referee making the decision.

[00:08:04]>> How many times have we seen that this season? When when are they going to, you know, they should know the protocol, right?

[00:08:10]>> I find it astonishing that here we are just a few games a few weeks out for the end of the season and the same mistakes are happening because that this is a breach of VR protocol.

[00:08:23]>> It's been happening for four years.

[00:08:24]>> I think it's staggering.

[00:08:26]>> And what have we always said? It's about the technology works. It's about the management of it, the use of it, and the coaching of it. If if you're the referee, if Keith Jackson or Daniel cause the referee, and I've come in your ear and saidly, >> by the way, I think that's hit I think that's hit his arm, but it's I think it's also hit his wrist. What's the first thing you're saying? I want to see for myself.

[00:08:50]>> Yeah. It's my call.

[00:08:53]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:54]>> And whether you take that advice or not, the advice is offered. But it's ultimately it's your decision.

[00:09:00]>> Soon as you hit soon as you soon as you make a decision and you hit go, that's your decision. To me, that wasn't David's decision. That was decision was made for him.

[00:09:09]>> That That's bad. That's bad.

[00:09:11]>> What was you said is right there, but but I think it's a a big flaw. Big flaw in the system.

[00:09:18]>> Yeah, I agree. What was the other HB? It was the the push, wasn't it, on Negron?

[00:09:23]>> Yeah, >> that was that was quite I mean, this was something that during the game, I have to admit, working through it, I missed it. But looking back, it does seem pretty seems to me two hands in the back, shoved him over, really stupid thing to do. Um, and you know, a penalty was given, I don't think he could have complained. It was Josh Campbell.

[00:09:41]>> That's a that's a that's a foul. And if it's in the penalty area, which it was, it's a penalty kick.

[00:09:47]It it didn't seem to be me to me Dez at the time to have been properly looked at. It was it wasn't the first came with a melee that then erupts when Maida hits the ball off George Campbell as he's lying down. scales gets involved and there's cars getting why is Val not looking at that instant I just that that that to me because at real speed I remember saying to you Dan at real speed you're thinking you've seen these cases where you've got defender trying to usher the ball out and they they'll get it gets over the by line and it's I don't like it but it's part of the game but if VA looks at that they can clearly see the ball isn't out of play the ball's still in play when that happens and that's got to be as blatant in the foul as you can see.

[00:10:33]>> It's got to be incumbent upon VAR to get the referee involved there.

[00:10:37]>> I'm not sure V even checked it properly does.

[00:10:39]>> I don't think it did. I don't think it did because as you said there had been quite a lot happening the the sort of minute or so before that things were things were going on. But as soon as the as soon as the ball's inside the penalty area, that's the minute you need to have your red alert on. You've got to be aware of what's going on because >> I think they get too caught up and because it's a split second later Josh Gamble falls down. He's him and Negan have got a little bit of something going on. Maida just comes over and kicks the ball at him and then it erupts in a bad temper and there's there's pushing and shoving. I think VA forgot to look at the initial incident and just went straight to the melee. So what's happened there is they've allowed play, as you correctly say, they've probably dropped the ball so to speak there and be more interested in the the the aftermath of it.

[00:11:31]>> Wait, what actually caused that in the first place? What was the what was the fail? Why is the ball out of play? As soon as that ball enters the penalty area, you've got your alarm. You've got to have that sixth sense. You've got your radar on straight away. Whether you're running into the penalty area, away from the penalty area. Let's go back to the churnney one all these years ago where the foul took place on the line which there should have been a penalty in the semi-final. As soon as that ball's in the penalty area, you have got to be fully alert and so do your assistants and so does your VA.

[00:12:01]They've got to be there.

[00:12:04]>> One job, you know what I mean?

[00:12:06]>> Yeah, time time is really getting away from us guys. But very briefly, a couple of comments. Peg leg says it's shocking officiating lads call it out. Rebel says if that was a European title been a stonewall penalty. Um and this one from John the decisions Easter road could have a big big impact in Celtics goal difference the outcome the league title.

[00:12:23]Um away from Easter road though Keith there was one or two decisions last night at time castle >> a couple um I mean look there was one of them is hardly a gamecher event but I think it's it's no great officiate and I actually think that John beaten did okay in the game. I think we probably get some hearts fans that would disagree. I thought he kept a lid on it. I thought I thought he he he allowed it to go a little bit as well which I think was good for the game itself. Was quite happy with but there was there was one tackle which I'm still laughing at was and do you know I'm saying I'm laughing and I'm saying it wasn't a critical moment in the game but it could have been. Fernandez gets booked for a foul on was it Brager?

[00:13:07]Um, not sure, but it's it's a clean tackle as you could see anywhere. Now, the the point is when Fernandez wins that ball, this is late in the game.

[00:13:18]Rangers pushing for an equalizer, the ball goes about 15 20 yards further forward up the pitch. And I think Rangers were getting on to it, but John beaten blue for a free kick, hands out a yellow card. To me, it's not even a fill. I think that's a a really bad call.

[00:13:36]So obviously I said to you I was I was busy yesterday doing doing other things for for once in my life actually spending a bad time my wife for once and Daniel behavior >> I know I know just cost you money when Daniel sent me I wasn't aware of it but when I seen it it's just clear a day it was a fantastic challenge it was a brilliant tackle >> I mean he's won the ball cleanly aggressively and I'll take your word for it. The ball progressed. Well, that could have been the start of a a promising attack for Rangers at that point, but it was certainly certainly wasn't a fail. It certainly wasn't a a caution. It was a great challenge.

[00:14:20]>> The other one uh was for potentially for Rangers, a penalty. I think it was late on, wasn't it, Keith? As Rangers were pushing for an equalizer, >> I think it was Kingsley and Finley either side of Gasama. Now, the screenshots that we can't show the clip.

[00:14:34]Obviously, the screenshots we've got are very grainy, but but try and bear with us. Um, he did seem to get it. I mean, look, to me, it looked like he got tangled up and probably pulled down. I think again, just my opinion, it was worth another look, but I don't know how you guys saw.

[00:14:50]>> Dan, this is the key, right? I wasn't sure at the time. It wasn't really looked at. I'm not sure once again that V looked at it. These pictures that we are seeing now, you can't clearly make out what's happened. suggestion seems to be that Kingsley pushes him into Finley which potentially if that's the and it you can see you can just about make that out that's the case it's potentially denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity as well as a penalty because I think Gama then kind of clashes into Finley. I don't think, listen, by the way, I you know, the thing is I don't think even Rangers fans are making much of an issue of this because they know that, you know, that their team didn't deserve anything out of that game last night.

[00:15:36]Um, but still, I I would uh from a forensic point of view that Val's meant to be there for, I think they've got to look at that again and and work out exactly what happened and and what the the outcome should have been.

[00:15:49]>> The images that we're seeing, that's I've only seen it tonight for the first time. It looks as if there could have been something in it. We can't tell from obviously what we're what we're seeing there. It's not um it's not conclusive.

[00:16:01]I think I would probably agree with what what we're saying there is that nobody's really made any clamor for it. I've not really heard lots about it. Is it worthy of a review? Possibly. Possibly. But possibly doesn't mean it certainly is a penalty or it's anything like that. So I can't you can't give any that is one you can say it's not conclusive. So that's what I would be with that.

[00:16:25]>> If you don't look at it.

[00:16:27]>> No. Well, don't look at it.

[00:16:30]>> Well, if you not been asked if you not been asked to go and look at it and go to the side of the park. Yeah.

[00:16:34]>> I'm getting absolutely slaughtered in the comments for those pictures. Guys, it's zoomed in. It's It's a screenshot.

[00:16:39]Do you know what I mean? The Muno says, "Did I make it in Minecraft?" Someone said Commodore 64. I mean, >> it'll be a ZX Spectrum soon.

[00:16:49]>> I know.

[00:16:50]>> I know.

[00:16:51]Trying our best here, Keith, to to bring a top show, you know, just get nothing but grief. The last thing Deson says, "Gama has a history of diving. His reputation preceded him." Um, and this one as well, Scotland, the brave says, "Gassama goes down at every opportunity and he's been booked for it loads. Let's not be kided. His rep goes against him."

[00:17:09]>> I agree with I agree with that. I totally agree and I wonder but this is another thing that was spoken about previously.