The speaker weaponizes high-minded constitutional rhetoric to sanitize what is fundamentally a case of witness intimidation. It is a classic example of using the First Amendment as a shield for harassment rather than a pillar of civic discourse.
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Oh, good morning people.
Good morning.
Hello.
Hello. Hello. Hello.
Good morning.
Ooh.
All right, what's up everyone? Bus stop live check-in.
Howdy. Good morning. Happy hump day.
Hump it up. Hump it up today.
Yo.
Yeah, I hear you.
Oh, I can't wait to get my real car back. I mean, it's nice. I like my white Ford Bronco.
Just not miss my car. Miss my Lexus, you know.
It's fun driving a new car, a different kind of car. This is a brand new car, too. So, I don't have 2,000 mi on it.
So, all right. [snorts] Hello.
All right. Bus stop live check-in. I do this every morning since October 11th, 2023 when I was arrested by the people right there at my kids' bus stop in case they try to do it again. Get them on uh get them on film, but uh it never happened again.
Uh and uh we are headed for a motion to dismiss hearing and then if that doesn't go our way, we are headed to trial.
A trial. They want to try me for witness intimidation. They want to make an example of me.
I'm too effective. They don't like it. They want to get their revenge on me. Doesn't seem right.
Anyway, um you know, that it's like this is literally the First Amendment is on trial in Norfolk County, like in the for the whole country, you know, for the whole country it is.
Because if if free speech doesn't exist, if the First Amendment stops existing in Norfolk County, Massachusetts, then it stops existing everywhere, period.
Because we didn't secede from the Union.
We're still part of this country.
The First Amendment in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, still applies to me.
I have the right to say the things that I said.
>> [snorts] >> I don't care what some unconstitutional law says that they're misinterpreting.
And I haven't even I haven't even violated their stupid unconstitutional law.
I'm even close cuz I've never intended to intimidate witnesses. I've never intended to uh you know, prevent the trial from happening. I've never acted in a reckless disregard for the fact that it might stop a trial from happening, which you have to do. Which they have to prove that I did.
And good luck, Robert Cosgrove. [ __ ] that.
If they want a trial, we can do a trial.
It'll be the biggest mistake they made.
The more I think about it, the more I'm like, let's [ __ ] You guys want a trial?
Let's [ __ ] I'm not afraid of a trial at all. We can [ __ ] >> [snorts] >> And you know, during the first two trials, the County re-trials, my profile skyrocketed immensely as a result of those trials and my coverage of those trials, being in the courtroom, covering it.
Can you imagine what will happen when I'm in the defendant's chair? What then? I mean, I'm not going to be able to do a show.
What am I going to do? I guess I could do some lives, but like there's going to be so much stuff. My lawyers for the first time during a trial would probably be like, "Yeah, we've never asked you to shut up before, but now would probably be a good time to shut up because we're in the middle of a trial." And they'll be watching it at night and filing motions. He said he said he said this last night.
I might just talk about I might And I might go live.
Because I got to go live. If the trial lasts like 3 weeks or something like that, if it got there, you know, I might just go live and talk about like more than 6 months away potentially. And you're like, "Well, like who's going to get the kids on the bus?
How's this going to work?
What am I going to feel like? I can't really like living in a hotel during the trial.
I got to do that.
You know, I got a lot of responsibilities.
But I mean it's a temporary thing.
It doesn't last forever.
Um And if they want to do that, I'm just picture a trial again. The coverage like a lot of these media outlets have been ignoring my story. Uh they they covered it initially for like the first 6 months. They were all about it. They were at all my hearings, asking questions, what not.
And then after that, they just moved on, you know?
Um and Ted Daniel used to come to all of my hearings. And um other media, David Bienick, and all these other media people. Now it's just Charlie McKenna from MassLive is always there, rain or shine. Jess Machado is always there. Justice Served is there. But it's mostly like online besides MassLive.
It's all just independent content creators for the most part. For the most part. Um sometimes NBC will get got pool camera in there or Kent Television.
uh Um, I don't know what I They're not They're They're independent. They won't call them. They're small, you know, even though they're not They work for somebody, but there's I consider them more indie than TV.
Um But like a trial would force them all back to the table. They'd have to watch it. And they'd have to cover it because it's the same characters as the Carey retrial, except many of them who didn't testify, who hate Brennan was too chicken and [ __ ] afraid to call in the second trial. Brian Albert, Colin Albert, Brian Higgins.
I don't know if Brian Higgins would testify because he's not one of my victims of witnessing fake witness intimidation.
But the bagel will be back, you know, the bagel's back. We'll We'll be seeing Elizabeth Proctor for the first time testify.
And she She's a real peach, that one.
You know, how she can explain that.
Yeah, today's court has been postponed.
Uh, yeah, there was supposed to be court today in the uh >> [snorts] >> the lawsuit. That has been moved to the 29th.
Um And uh yeah.
So, we'll see about that.
Um, what else is going on?
All right, we're almost back.
July 20th is a motion to dismiss, that's correct.
Um July 20th, yeah.
>> [snorts] >> Uh, hopefully you guys enjoyed the show last night, too. I had a good time talking about it, discussing it.
You know.
These people don't realize like I like getting petty.
No matter how much I win my My of being petty will never stop. Sorry.
I like it. And you're easy to crap on.
And uh it's just I consider it more like dancing on graves. It's just a reminder that like those who I just want to constantly remind them they made the wrong choice. I mean there was a there was a choice to be made in late September, early October. There was a clear choice to be made there.
Like do you support Turtle Boy in the quest for freedom and justice and everything I've done or do you support drama? Right? Do you support like, "Oh, let's talk about a recording." Do do like which do you support?
And a lot of people made the right decisions and they took a lot of crap for that. Like, Nurse Kim, Will The Glaerer, um Jimmy, [clears throat] like they all chose Baker.
There's a lot of guy great a lot of great content creators chose the right side.
But a lot of them Crawford, BLT, they went all in on them.
On Hood Booger Talk Radio.
And it just didn't work out for them.
And so in the like like aligning themselves with Ra Raccoon and uh uh all sorts of of just Twitter tr trolls and people who don't matter and something called Babs um and and just angry women on the internet.
I don't know what happened there, but anyway, um we're back. I think we're back.
We're back. I think you guys like these blinds? They better be nice. Hold on.
All right. So, um yeah.
I don't know what. Sometimes I just lose service. I don't know, it's weird. I'm good. We're back though. It was in my garage, by the garage.
All right. If anybody wants to have their messages read, you click the link at the top for Turtle Chat, or you can cash app me at dollar sign Uncle Turtleboy. And said, "Aren't these blinds dope?" I mean, to get That's 102 inches.
To get the I know I thought you could just go on Amazon and buy them. But no, you You to get them like custom made at Home Depot.
But best decision I made. Like you imagine like you see people walking by with their dogs. Everyone in this neighborhood's got a dog.
And they always walk them. It's like a circle of those like a loop they do. And it's like every they can just look in my house whenever they want. It's weird.
So, um I like them. I like I think it's better than curtains. And they're the kind that go you can just pull them up.
Pull them down. They're not cheap. No. I had no idea blinds were so expensive.
But you know what?
Some You're going to use them every day.
I look at utility when I purchase things.
I don't want to pay a lot of money for something that I'm going to wear twice.
Like Like a wedding dress is probably the greatest scam of all time what you pay for that.
Um but like I can justify paying a lot of money for blinds cuz you're going to use them every day. A bed's the same way.
You're going to use a bed every day. You can justify spending a lot of money on a bed. Right?
Um but I can't you know, so I I'll do that.
But like if I didn't have a pool if this house didn't come with a pool, I would never have a pool. A pool is the biggest waste of money, I think. Cuz you especially in Massachusetts, cuz you're going to use it for 2 or 3 months.
That's it.
If I lived in Florida, I would definitely have a pool. Yeah, I'd have a pool. Everybody's got a pool in Florida.
Cuz you can't go in the ponds cuz there's gators in there, which is crazy when you think about it. Like that they allow gators to just like live in their state. Like that's nuts.
Like that's nuts. There's just Cuz gators are like dinosaurs. They're like the closest thing we have left to dinosaurs.
And they're just like you can't go swimming in a lake in Florida cuz there might be a gator in it, I would assume. I would never go swimming in a lake in in Florida. So, you got to have a pool. But then all the Every time I see someone's pool in Florida, it's always like indoors kind of.
There's like a sun thing.
Like you can see the but also it's indoors cuz I think it's just too hot outside. But also then the pollen can't get in the pool. I don't know.
I would never pay for a pool if I if I was going to come with a pool cuz I think See, that's not good utility.
You're not You're not going to use it enough to justify it, you know?
But screened in. Yeah, like the screened in pools. Like those are Everybody's got those in Florida. Every time you see like a Florida house with a pool like they all have the screened in pool. Why don't Shouldn't they all be screened in?
Like they're all That's the best. I mean, it's just as good, right?
For the sun? I don't know.
All right. Uh what are people saying?
The water gets too hot, exactly.
I have a pool. Yeah, I couldn't imagine in Vegas and I've been to Vegas once, never again.
I had to move in with my parents after I got back, long story. Cuz Vegas just ruins people.
Um It was so hot. I've never had heat like that. I went to Vegas in like I think early August, which is probably the worst time you can go to Las Vegas. It's a type of heat I've never felt before.
It's like every time you got out of the car, it was like getting punched in the face. But it was so cool, the lights, the casinos, I love that [ __ ] Love it.
Get high off that [ __ ] Um Is your pool hot yet? It's better than it was 2 days ago. It's nice.
Love the dry heat. Yeah.
You know, it's like I do wish cuz I I love the heat. I love 90°, man. I love it. Some people think that's too hot. I love that [ __ ] As long as there's AC, I love it.
I love the exercise and then I [ __ ] love it. I love it.
Um All right, what else are people saying?
Let me see if we got any turtle chats.
If you want to read your If you want to have your messages read, turtle chats on on top or you can cash them Turtle chats on in the bottom, link to the bottom, or cash at me dollar sign Uncle Turtle Boy.
We do have some here I want to read.
Um Bite my bits.
Sent 10 bucks and goes, "The cartel sold millions of pills with a couple cents worth of fentanyl at $30 a pop because that's what people were paying for a Roxycodone then. What Corey bought from the guy dealer.
It was a proper epidemic. 75,000 overdose deaths is more than gunshots and car accidents combined. She would have had to plan and execute a murder with a drug.
The only way to get was to buy something else and hope it was counterfeit with fentanyl and nobody else knew that was even a thing but still pay $30 per pill. I don't get what you're saying. Or Eric popped a Zanny and he got off on Mason reworker.
Which seems more loss logical.
Defense [ __ ] up big time.
Okay.
So, Corey Richen's innocent. Got it.
Aiden then Bites My Bits sends $5 and says, "By the way, I watched all the Corey Richen's pre-trial hearings and went in thinking she was guilty as [ __ ] The evidence turned me." Okay. I mean, that's fine.
You are entitled to believe Corey Richen's is innocent.
But how do you explain her trying to poison him 2 weeks before that? How do you explain that one?
Hmm, I don't know.
Uh Steve Colly sends, my guy, sends 50 bucks and goes, "Aiden, love the show.
Forgot to give you probably stop it.
Come on. You give plenty. Your work and content saved my life in 2023, inspired me to try creating content. Not big enough yet, but I've come far all because of you. Love and support.
Respect you always. Steve Colly from Upstate New York." Yeah, we love you, Steve. Thank you. I appreciate that very, very much. Um I'm glad to be an inspiration. Emily sends five bucks goes, "The sister of Dom, the boyfriend the sister of Dom, yeah, I know Dom is the McKenzie Hill's boyfriend, is wanting to be interviewed by people.
The big sister unhinged is her YouTube.
You should try I should. I want to I definitely want to have I definitely want to talk do a deep dive on Mackenzie Shirilla. Do a whole show on it.
But now I want to watch this I go on my see I go on my YouTube and look what look what it feeds me.
Look what it feeds me, okay?
There's Nanda attendance is Nanda Tory 25 investigates and then intense battle between newborn cheetah and newborn buck.
Guess what I'm picking 10 times out of 10. I go to I so this is my problem with YouTube, okay?
I go to YouTube to like look something up and then I see like intense battle between newborn cheetah and newborn buck. Yes. You guys are really that freaked out by that?
Really?
What do you guys eat for lunch and dinner?
Look at you guys. Look at all the crying in the comments. Look at them cry. Cry some more. Cry some more about that buck, that baby buck. You know there's like a hundred of them being eaten right now, right? In the wild?
You know that, right? Baby squirrels are being eaten right now.
Baby bunnies are being eaten right now.
It's [ __ ] nature. Jesus Christ, grow the [ __ ] up, chat.
Do I need to teach This is why they call me daddy cuz you guys are [ __ ] babies. Grow up.
Grow up.
Jesus Christ. This happening a million times a day out there in the wild.
Little the babies go first. You know why the babies go first?
Cuz they're the easiest to catch.
It's easier to kill a baby buffalo than a grown-up buffalo, isn't it? Right? And people like it's sad. It's not sad. It's actually not. It's sad when the predators don't cuz there you know how many bucks there are out there and impalas and wildebeests? Like millions.
They own the continent of Africa. It's all theirs, okay?
You know what I mean? Like cheetahs and lions and [ __ ] like a fraction of that.
A fraction.
You know why? Cuz it's hard being a lion. It's hard being a It's hard being a cheetah. Imagine being a cheetah.
Look at how hard your life is.
You're like a big cat, but not really.
You're kind of a big cat. You can't climb trees.
You're fast for short periods, and then you're really slow, okay? So, you got to catch them on the first burst.
But you're not that strong as a cheetah.
You're not that strong. Like you can't take down a wildebeest on your own if you're a cheetah.
You can't Not one.
You would need a group.
You can't And then if you kill if you got, [clears throat] you know, you kill something, you're lucky enough to kill an animal, and you Okay, lunch is served. You better hope there's no hyenas around.
You better hope there's no lions around.
They'll just take that [ __ ] They don't care. They don't need to ask.
They don't care if you ate Were there first.
Right? They're just going to take it.
And what are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
So, you try being a cheetah. For everybody that felt bad for the cheetahs I mean, for the little buck there. No, feel bad for the cheetahs.
The cheetah's life is significantly harder than that buck's life would have been. That buck All they got to do is they just go around eating grass, prancing, running around, having a nice life on the savanna. There's millions of them.
The odds that one of them's going to get picked off It's like one in a million that you're going to get killed as, you know, a prey.
But the babies? I mean, most of these baby cats do not survive till adulthood.
They die of starvation. You You that?
It's a horrible horrible life being a predator and I'm sick of like anti- predator bias out there. Like people see a video like that, they're like, "Oh my god, so horrible." Actually, it's great.
It's actually great for the cheetahs cuz the cheetahs are going to die if they don't eat. Why do you guys want cheetahs to die?
You know? Why do you want cheetahs to die? Oh, oh, it's sad. They'll be fine.
They're going to put him out of his misery then it's going to be lunch. What are you eating for lunch?
If you're eating meat, you better not be crying about that.
So, anyway, it's hard being a cheetah. Free the cheetahs.
A lot of anti-cheetah heating going on out here.
All right.
Um Sorry, but watching defenseless animals getting killed is sick. I disagree. I mean, that video has how many?
That's There's a whole channel for that.
Latest sightings. That That had 1.3 million views.
1.3 million views.
Anyway, all right, next.
Yeah, cheetah is zoom. Exactly. It's just anti-cheetah, whatever. All right, what else do we got here?
We got Jacqueline sends five bucks. He says, "In my opinion, you would be one hell of a defense attorney." I People say that a lot that I should have been a a lawyer.
Um and I have no doubt I'd be a great lawyer, but couple things. I don't want like getting I don't want to get dressed up every day and like I like wearing a I like waking up every day and being my own boss and wearing whatever I want. It's fun. Like this is what's natural to me, okay? I also wouldn't want to go to law school cuz it's too much work and not every case is interesting and I just don't know how good I would be at that. But you put me like if if it was like Joe Pesci like My Cousin Vinny, that I could I could do that. That'd be really good. So there's that.
Next.
I mean Jesus Christ, people are really crying about that [ __ ] [ __ ] You know like hundreds of them are being eaten right this second in Africa, all over the continent. Little baby prey are being eaten everywhere.
Maybe they're lucky enough to get a grownup, but it's probably the babies.
They go first. So Jesus Christ, you guys don't know how the wild works? Grow up. All right, the other Mary B sent five bucks says Ray started his channel because he was outraged at what Randall and them were doing to y'all over that stupid recording. Those idiots only have themselves to blame for getting mercilessly roasted by Ray. Is that when he started it? That's literally that was the motivation for Ray to start his channel, huh?
That's awesome.
Um You should do a McKenzie for sure. I'm going to finish watching the doc tonight.
And then I'll probably do a McKenzie Sherrod stream. We need to do one.
Just all about McKenzie. She could be our new thing.
I well, I went to YouTube to look at that channel. That's what I went there to do. See, that's the problem. I just proved my own point.
The channel I'm looking for is Big Sister Unhinged.
All right, it's got 18,000 subscribers.
Let's go check it out.
She wasn't in the doc?
Or she was Oh, is this the sister from the doc?
Oh, this is her. She was in the doc, this one.
Let me see this.
World, the Kardashians run the world.
They control everything. These people with billions of This is the chick from the >> dollars, millions of dollars. Um, and my mom I'll be I'll be like, "Mom, do not give them any attention." You know what I'm saying? And she'll be like, "I don't." You're feeding her ego and building her everyone behind her. So, whether it's a Google search of her, um, whether it is searching her up on Facebook or any of the groups involved, um, and there are terrible His dad got Her dad was an art teacher. Her dad is like in the biggest [ __ ] Her She is where she Kenzie Shirilla is the way she is because of her parents.
I really enjoyed, um, Gabeon's father.
I thought he was a really interesting person. Just a loving dad. He adopted him.
Um, and it was very interesting.
Like they didn't know going like they didn't know These people didn't know all The family didn't even know all the facts going into the trial, I guess, about everything that had happened. They learned it in real time. Like Dom Dom's mother all never liked Mackenzie, I think. I think she turned on her pretty quick.
But Dom's father like supported her and thought it was an accident up until the trial, I think.
And then they saw the facts and they were like, "What?" And the sister, too.
The sister supported Mackenzie until they learned the facts that like 100% throttle. 100%. Not 75, as they like to say. 100%.
terrible YouTubers, um, out there that the family has paid Her family has paid, I heard.
Um, I I've heard through the grapevine.
Allegedly is what I said.
>> Allegedly. Thank you. Allegedly, um, So, they're going to have paid certain YouTube YouTubers to, basically, um, ruin my brother's reputation and, um, say terrible things about the family.
And I'm talking terrible things.
Actually, the one in particular were the ones That's another thing, you guys. If you see that video of my dad and my stepmom, when they found out Dom passed, Don't click on it. Don't watch it. Don't share it.
Ever.
Don't comment on Yeah, the the video of the dad when he finds out Dom has passed, he was just like shock.
He's like, "So, my son's dead."
He's like sex smoking a cigarette. He's like, "My son's dead."
What? Like it was it was a weird reaction, but it was like just shock.
Shock and awe.
And if you don't like it, don't don't do anything to it. That things like that should not be on the internet for people to see. That's not entertainment. Um that's why I'm here um to ask you guys of this and and like I said to try to establish a platform where I can please ask of this.
That video does not It's It's that is the cruelest um thing in this one in particular in this one And I and I YouTuber I'm I'm trying I also heard like that there's like free Mackenzie [ __ ] out there.
There's like free Facebook pages and for Mackenzie Shirilla. I will be leading the opposite of that. If I get involved, I'm going to be like if if there I don't know if it has any traction the free Mackenzie Shirilla movement. But if it does, count me in on being the crusty to that movement as the anti free Mackenzie Shirilla cuz Mackenzie Shirilla is guilty of murder. She murdered them. As the judge said, she transformed to literal hell on wheels.
She transformed her car into a rocket ship. That's what she did.
And think how psycho that is. Think how psycho that is to drive 100 miles an hour and you're in the car. You're in the [ __ ] car.
Directly into a wall. Like that is crazy.
I mean, she got 15 to life, but the judge told her during sentencing, "You're probably going to die in prison." Cuz she knows her. Cuz she the judge cuz she just her. The judge knows like, "You're a piece of [ __ ] You're going to misbehave in jail.
You're never going to say you're sorry.
You're never going to do what you need to do to get parole." She She just knew.
So, she tells her that. She's like, "I'm giving you 15 to life, but you're I think you're going to die in jail." She says that during sentencing.
I'm trying not to say their name. Like, don't look at it. Just if you know they're pro-Kenzie or anti-dom, anti-my family, anti-Russo, just please just don't even click. Don't Google. Don't search. There are maybe episodes coming out. There's going to be a lot of So, what I need to do before I before I reach out to this chick and try to get them on, I feel like most of my subscribers probably aren't that familiar with the Mackenzie Shirilla story. So, we need to watch the doc if you haven't watched it already.
But, there's more.
I think the jail call You got to go over the jail calls to see That's how I learned what a piece of [ __ ] Mackenzie Shirilla is is the jail calls.
Right?
Um I When I watched I remember her being sentenced. It was in the height of the Car Reed thing, so I wasn't paying that much attention, but I remember her being sentenced and I felt a little bad for her cuz I'm like, she just looks so young.
And I'm like, what a horror Oh, man.
And you did And that And that But, then you hear the jail calls and you you hear what the real Mackenzie Shirilla is like and you're like, "Oh, she's ghetto trash. Oh, she's a piece of [ __ ] J- Jails were built for people like her to be in them."
Like, she's dangerous. She's very dangerous.
Psycho. The way she acted afterwards, you know?
And you're like, "Okay, now I get it.
Now I get it."
Her parents suck.
Her friends suck. That Rosie chick, I want to smack her.
Um the prosecutor in that case was like He The prosecutor in that case is tremendous, too. You're like, "This guy is everything that the Norfolk County DA's office does not have.
I'm going to watch some more of this.
things coming out with this Netflix movie coming out. There's going to be a lot of people who want clout. A lot of that is to rage bait. What do they say rage rage bait? Yeah.
>> By saying bad things and getting comments and things like that. Um Yeah, click bait stuff. Mhm. And and if we can not click on that and um Sorry. not follow not I I would really appreciate it and just remember that anytime you're doing that you're like I said I I over my dead body will this broad think she's a Gypsy Rose and get out and think that she's going to be um rich and famous.
It's that's all she's ever wanted and I I over over my dead body.
>> Right. Take it take that as you will.
For it or not. Um that it's just it can't happen. Please.
So, if you come across something like that um Dom's mother hates McKenzie, but she it's interesting she was not in the doc at all. Dom's father was.
But her mother was not.
And I thought that was interesting.
Uh Davion's mother wasn't in it either, but his his father plays a a prominent role in the documentary. And of course McKenzie's parents do too cuz they suck.
>> Don't even click on it. And then speaking of um not clicking and giving attention to my brother's murderer um or any of her family or her evil minions. Um And who is I was going to review some of these calls after doing the interview with uh John Sue Pablo. Um I I I haven't gone back cuz it was so You listen to him one time, you never want to hear it again. That's what I'm Right, and I didn't want to hear him the first time, so Got you.
>> I feel I feel it.
Uh that's that's what we're here for though. That's this is what it's about, so um let me go ahead and pull this up.
All right, so let's start this one. And Hello. Yeah.
Okay, hold on. I'm working right now.
What were you thinking about that woman?
Um nothing. That's all she said. She just forgives you.
>> And like with Davion's mother that I hope Candy can like repent and like weird ass [ __ ] Like that was weirdest [ __ ] I was like, okay, I'm done. Sorry. Like I'm not doing that.
I'm not going to listen to that. I'm sorry. I don't know about that. That's Are you kidding me?
No.
Mhm. Mhm. You're how many seconds in? I I can't listen to I'm not I can't listen to that. I'm sorry.
Um What the I don't know whether to I feel like crying honestly cuz that like how This is I think them coming back from one of the trial days. You um murdered her child.
You [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] You demonic [ __ ] I'm sorry.
Uh you took you ended these boys' life. their lives. How dare you? Kenzie, oh my god, I can't I can't wait to see what your parole hearing I can't wait. Becky, never save this video, okay? We're going to save to the desktop, right?
parole hearing. I'm starting that I've been screenshotting and saving minor things.
Put this in a specific folder, please, okay, of what what's being played first.
You're done.
That's Jesus Christ. You're going to If you were going to hell before, I don't that was And now I throw that back. I don't know.
That's the plan.
All right, you ready for this? Cuz like if you need to stop, you can always stop and we can just try again another time, you know? It's if this is I know. child says she's always had She took it too far. What's just going to take us forever cuz I'm going to keep it. Go ahead. I do feel bad for Divine, obviously, 100%. I totally This is her talking to her mother. This is McKenzie talking to her mom.
I love her mom. I know. What child says she's always had the easy way out? Like no child says that. You don't even know me. You don't even know what the [ __ ] you mean the easy way out. [ __ ] I don't I never even This is right after she was sentenced in August of 2023. And and so she's in jail gabbing with her mom being like, "Oh my god, they're talking about Dom's family."
and [ __ ] on them.
I would not with you ever. Right. That's what I mean. We've talked to you long enough for you to even know anything about me other than I model cuz I helped her with modeling. I know, honey. I know.
Like what the [ __ ] is the easy way out?
I don't even understand what that >> I love how everybody knows exactly what went on in this house at all times of the day.
Our house?
Yeah, because >> The [ __ ] Pause. What does that matter?
Natalie, you know what? Natalie, I have your number. I feel like calling you.
What does that matter if they if Divine knew Kensi? Nobody gives a flying [ __ ] about your ratty ass daughter. No one cares about your psychopathic disgusting daughter who's going straight to hell.
You'll never see her after this earth life. Done, okay?
Maybe you will cuz you're going to hell with her. Something's wrong with you.
Um, no one cares. You your daughter took her brother's life and Davion's mom's Jamie's son's life. That that poor Divine, oh you feel a little bad? I This is crazy, Becky.
>> Davion's family.
Which is like the nicest family.
Davion's parents Uh, so Davion was not the boyfriend.
Davion was what the the prosecutor called him cargo. That's what basically she treated him like he was cargo. She wanted to kill Dom cuz she was in abusive she was in an abusive relationship and he wanted to end it.
And so she had to die.
And she was planning on driving into a wall and killing him, but they were giving Davion a ride and that didn't stop her at all. She's like, well, he guess he's going to die, too, you know?
And she crapped in there. Davion was in foster care and him and his sisters were adopted by her parents.
Um, who seem like really nice people and she's crapping on them. And they were sympathetic towards her at first. They all were.
This is what they they were talking about when they came back from listening to the victim impact statements. They just listened to Divine talk in court and they had to say this about what she said in court. That 13-year-old girl at the time. 13-year-old girl that just lost her brother and then they have the audacity to come back and and talk like this about her. 13-year-old >> So is your fake crocodile tears in the courtroom that everybody knew that show that you put on.
What?
But this is what other people have already heard and why you have such a huge support system with this because these calls if people weren't already convinced just on the base facts of itself, the controlled movements of the car, the jerking of the wheel 5 seconds before, the steering column going into neutral, back into drive. Um these controlled movements that mean that she's alert in that car. If that wasn't enough to convince you, other people have listened to these phone calls and listened to her attitude and the way that she talks about these families. Um it's despicable. And she has absolutely no remorse at all. And she's not even acting like somebody who is innocent.
Okay? This is not even the state like if somebody was truly innocent and you're in prison for something you absolutely really did not do, you're not like this.
You are scared. You are worried that you're >> And how crazy is it too that, you know, Davion was in in the system, and so is, you know, he got a raw deal in life, right? He's in the system, foster care, and then he gets adopted, so his life is saved.
And then this piece of [ __ ] kills him.
Like very rarely do you say that a a kid was as it turns out, they were better off in the system.
Like if he was just in a foster home, or a group home, or whatever, he would his life wouldn't his quality of life wouldn't be as good, but he would be alive.
So because he was adopted, and had the misfortune of then going to school with this piece of [ __ ] and running in with her social circle, he's dead.
be sentenced for something that you didn't do, you would be freaking out.
You wouldn't be vindictive like this.
There's no claim that there was no consequences, there was no anything. You don't even know what you're talking about. You don't know people like that.
Oh.
Yeah, I love it. Everybody knows exactly what goes on in the phone calls all day.
Thank you. Just internet trolls. You don't even know what Okay, [ __ ] you're not even on the internet.
We're not in the internet. That was a real courtroom.
Just putting it out there, guys.
Internet trolls.
Or victim impact statements.
It was just during the trial. Yeah.
Well, who Because they were upset because Divine said that McKenzies always had the easy way out.
Um and your mommy is still you're still doing this, Natalie. You're still enabling her and you're still feeding into that that sociopathic, psychopathic mind of hers.
Yeah.
Okay, keep going. It's her husband, right? [snorts] There's going to be a podcast about the um the case tonight on somebody's thing. It's cuz Kenzie's insane.
>> What do you mean? It's going to be on what?
>> [laughter] >> Somebody's going to be talking about it on their podcast.
When? Like you think she should have been you know, what do you think the sentence was fair? How do you feel about the case? Do you agree with the charges?
Why you going to call when they're on there?
>> [laughter] >> She got 15 to life. The judge could have given her third She was 17 when she did it, so I don't know if she could have gotten life.
And it because it's in a car, it's just not treated the same as like if you stabbed someone to death. But it really should be. There's really mentally it's actually worse.
What she did. Like what Corey Richens did, like what these people did, it's like it's not as gruesome as like shooting someone or stabbing somebody, but it's just as [ __ ] sick.
It really is.
So she got 15 to life, but the judge tells her in sentencing "You're going to die in prison." She actually says that. "I think you're going to die in jail."
"Because I I see you.
I I see who you are.
And you're the type of [ __ ] that like all these calls are going to be used at her parole hearing. They're all It's going to keep her in jail cuz she's not sorry."
>> [laughter] >> I should.
You should I'm so for real. You should be like this is holy crap. Right. No, I can't. Why? I can't yet. Because there's because I can't yet. And are you going to make the remembrance page?
I have to I have to ask how to proceed with that.
Okay, I'm going to tell my friend too then.
To what, Becky? talking to you very soon. So I think she said a remembrance page. Yeah.
What does she mean?
I don't know. She'll have her friends do what? I'm thinking make the page cuz her mom said she can't yet. And I I still think her mom is under this whole we can't talk cuz I want to appeal.
Anything that you say could ruin the appeal because you might accidentally say that you're guilty on the phone. Um be secretive so we can try to get you out by being secretive. You know Becky I honestly I felt I felt so bad. I'm just I hope Natalie I hope you hear this. I felt so bad. I feel bad saying bad things about people, bad things about her, bad things about everybody. I feel bad up until this call. It's over with.
It's over with. So she felt bad >> my siblings don't watch this cuz this is super [ __ ] up. Yeah, it really is. All right and then go ahead. Stop.
Okay.
Remember I said you got to trust me. You have to trust what's going on out here.
Okay?
Oh my goodness. Oh my god you people are nuts. Oh my god and oh my god did you did you hear the conversation that her that she had on the phone with her dad when she was in jail? Like what?
What are they talking about?
I don't know cuz I never even talked to her on the phone. I know.
I know.
I mean but she's looking for the 5 minutes of fame.
>> Yeah she was talking She was talking when they took her out.
All right she's so gross. Um why doesn't she talk to her dad on the phone in the jail?
Um I heard it on a phone call at some point where he did pop on the phone.
Well the dad's an idiot. The they the dad comes on in one of the jail calls and he's like [ __ ] the judge. Like immediate oh that [ __ ] judge is a piece of [ __ ] The the dad is a the biggest idiot. And the the mom is a close second but the dad's a [ __ ] [ __ ] but the mom is smart enough not to let the dad on the phone during the jail calls because he's such a [ __ ] [ __ ] and he'll [ __ ] up the appeal. They think they're going to get her out on appeal.
>> And then the Natalie grabbed the phone back from him and said or no he said mommy's going to take the phone from me because she knows I can't not shut my mouth or something. So I think he's not allowed on the phone because he can't stop himself from talking [ __ ] like he did in the court group. Right. [ __ ] weirdo. Um he can't control his mouth and he's >> Wasn't there text messages between Kenzie and her father in the middle of the night of her asking him for a foot rub or something like that. Yeah, something. Make her food and come rub feet. Yeah, weird stuff. They're weird.
That's in the middle of the night. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she's That's [ __ ] weird, but Uh all right, let's do a few more minutes cuz I'm uh my blood's boiling at this this this is you guys are trash, straight trash.
Going to hell. Absolutely.
You know?
Okay.
I am so glad you got moved on campus.
What's the Is it different? Does the room look different?
>> Yeah.
Tell me about it cuz I Well, I guess I'll see it later. Is it bigger? Yeah.
Show your roommate, please. Wait. Why is her voice different?
Go ahead. She's got a There you go.
I'm so happy for you for that.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, go ahead.
They're talking in Latin. Latin, they do that a lot. So, anyway, yeah, this I'll show you the sentencing with the mom.
The mom's sentencing is just so [ __ ] First of all, here's the judge. Here's the This trial is a culmination of decisions made by one person.
And those decisions have forever altered the futures of three families and the futures of these kids.
And your decisions forever robbed Dominic and Kevion of the futures they had before them.
If there is one thing that you can take away from this case, as painful as it is, it is this. Every decision we make is important. Every action we make is important.
Regardless of whether the decision is a good one or a bad one, or the actions are good or not, For some strange reason, she chose Now, I guess not strange reason. She chose a bench trial.
I guess that was her best bet cuz a jury would hate her. A jury would just despise her.
But, she chose a bench trial and the judge despised her just as much. She should have taken a plea. The result is the same. The consequences ripple through time and affect many more people than one might think at the time of decision.
In criminal cases, the state >> She smack talks this lawyer so much in the jail calls, too. She hates this lawyer.
It carries the greatest burden of all, proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
As I previously stated, I considered all the evidence presented, and at this point I would like to comment specifically on exhibit 802, the crash video.
This is the type of evidence you can never On a bench trial, like at least with a jury, they just come out and they're like guilty or not guilty, guilty, and it's over. A bench trial, you saw with Judge Car. They got like five or six minutes of grandstanding, and you see where they're headed during it. And as soon as the judge starts talking, Mackenzie Shirilla knows it's over. I'm going to jail. ever will see. You can never forget the visual audio this is in it. It's chilling and tragic. As you review that exhibit, you know that you were watching the oncoming deaths of two people, and there's nothing that could stop it.
The video clearly shows the purpose and intent of the defendant. It shows a course of death and destruction of that.
Now it's notes from the car. Exhibit 802 crystallizes the deadly decision-making of the defendant. She morphs from a responsible driver to literal hell on wheels as she makes her way down the street. Literal hell on wheels.
>> Mackenzie Shirilla made the decision to drive the car, to drive an obscure route, a route she has driven a few days before, and a route not usually taken by her.
Mackenzie Shirilla chose the time to make the drive, early in the morning, when any reasonable person would expect a few people would be nearby to witness it or offer life-saving assistance. She made these decisions despite knowing, as any reasonable person would, that the mission of death would involve others, not even in the car with her, other people in the cars, pedestrians. She had a mission, and she executed it with precision. The mission was death.
Mackenzie Shirilla decided to push the pedal to the floor and demand the ultimate speed of that vehicle, 90 to 100 mph.
She alone decided what was to be.
No.
>> Mackenzie decided death was the ultimate goal that day, and she alone made that decision for Dominic Mick Don, and she continuously executed her mission But she's not guilty. Imagine the judge being like, yeah, but not guilty. Like she knows, Mackenzie knows it's over.
You're going to jail. But she's not crying for them, she's crying for herself.
No reasonable fact finder could view the totality of the evidence in this case and come to any other conclusion.
[snorts] Her actions were thoughtful, methodical, deliberate, intentional, and purposeful.
This was not manslaughter. This was murder.
For matters of quality verdicts, count one, the court having had count one tried to a person of labor, finds the defendant Mackenzie Shirilla guilty of murder to wit Dominic Russo, the violation of Ohio Revised Code Section 2903.02A as charged in count one of the indictment. Look at that. Those are her parents. Look at them. Look at That's her dad. He doesn't know how to get Dresses like a McAlister to court. And the mom.
Count two, the court having had count two tried to a person of labor, finds the defendant Mackenzie Shirilla guilty of murder to wit Dayvion Flanagan, the violation of Ohio Revised Code Section 2903.02A as charged in count two of the indictment.
Count three, murder, the court having had count three tried to a person of labor, finds the defendant Mackenzie Shirilla guilty of murder to wit Dominic Russo, the violation of Ohio Revised Code Section 2903.02B as charged in count three of the indictment. Count four, murder, the court having had count four tried to a person of labor, finds the defendant Mackenzie Shirilla Shirilla guilty of murder to wit Dominic Russo, the violation of Ohio Revised Code Section 2903.02B as charged in count four of the indictment. You know, they're just like I'm like, you know, you immediately are like, "Well, should I have testified?
Should I have done a jury trial?" You Either way you were going to fail. A jury A jury's going to hate you. You would have been a disaster on the stand. Disaster.
felonious assault, the court having had count five tried to a person of labor, finds the defendant Mackenzie Shirilla guilty of felonious assault to wit Dominic Russo, the violation of Ohio Revised Code Section 2903.11 of the Revised Code is charged in Count Five of the indictment. Count Six, felonious assault. The Court having had Count Six tried to pursue the waiver, finds the defendant against Shurella guilty of felonious assault. So, let's uh I want to watch the moms clearly.
>> Can you start with your name? My name is Natalie Shurella.
Um I just want to say can my lawyer address them at all? Sure. I just want to say to the families that I'm broken, sad, and lost, and my heart hurts for everyone, okay? Davion was her new friend, and Don was the love of her life, and he was part of our family, okay? Davion was her new friend.
>> [laughter] >> I'm just so sorry that this happened. My heart broke, okay? And then, Your Honor, this was a terrible, tragic, nightmare accident to have happened that she has no memory of, and she will never emotionally or physically recover of it recover from it.
>> And she conveniently has no memory of any of this happening.
Which the judge didn't buy, so don't get up on the stand there and and debate the facts of the case.
Yeah. Um she almost died, too. And we're asking that you please not run the sentences consecutive. He was family, and we all loved each other.
That morning of the accident, she called I got a phone call that she there was a car accident, okay? So, I went to the hospital, and I didn't even know who was in the car.
The names had not been confirmed yet.
And I was I'm going to cry because I I miss Don so much. We loved him so much.
>> [snorts] >> Like I called Don like over and over again praying that he was going to answer the phone, and he didn't answer the phone.
So, then tried to call his mom, and she didn't answer the phone, either.
And I still didn't know who was in the car. I didn't even know if she was alive. I didn't know what was happening.
So, then we were in the waiting room.
And then his mom ended up did she did call me, so I answered the phone, and I was like, "Oh my god. Like, I don't even know who was in the car. Like, what's happening? Was that Don?" And she said, "What do you mean? My son is dead."
And I was like, "I'm so sorry." And then she said something like, "And now I have to wait until your kids out of the hospital." And then I didn't hear the rest. What is she I >> like we loved him so much, and I Like she doesn't have a speech written. She just gets up there and wings it. This is so weird.
>> hung up the phone. I did not talk about social media. I didn't even know what was going on yet. Okay?
So then that was it.
So I was in the hospital that Vitality post. I commented on that because somebody had called her a murderer.
Okay? And Oh, she she had commented online about like after and I think it was brought up. The mom made some sort of comment on a Facebook post and it was like insensitive. It just showed and now she for some reason during the victim impact statement or the sentencing thing, she's not being like this is when you say that like she made a mistake.
She deserves a second chance.
She was young.
reckless But she doesn't deserve to spend the rest of her life in jail. She deserves a chance at a second life. Um This is a person's character is not I don't believe any of this, but like a a person's character is not summed up in in 5 seconds of action, but rather 18 years of their life and she's done this and she volunteered at a soup kitchen and blah blah. I mean that's what you're supposed to do.
Oh, she's great to her cousin, her disabled cousin in the wheelchair, and her helps him get around, and she you know, she helped an old lady walk across the street. [ __ ] like that. Instead she's up here and she's just like So on a Facebook post She would She's not a murderer. So she couldn't even have her phone at that point cuz the police had Not a murderer, [ __ ] She was convicted of murder. What are you talking about? It still had it.
Okay? So I jumped on and I was like, you know, she's not a murderer. She's more sad than hurt than most of these people commenting.
Um she's been trying to get in touch with you. I mean at that point it was just an accident. So I commented on her behalf not because of the modeling opportunity. I don't even who cares about that? I don't want them to refer to her as a murderer, okay? And I don't even know how that commented got on the phone because the police still had her device and she could not access her phone or social media. That's why I did it.
And um I had called them asking if they could shut down social media because she Oh my god, I can't believe this.
After he was killed, after the death, um she kept sh- she got out of the hospital quickly and then she starts posting like modeling pictures and [ __ ] She wanted to be a model.
And it was some fashion brand commented on her thing.
And then she was like the the Mackenzie Shirilla account was like, "Oh my god, I've been trying to get in touch with you guys." It's like 2 months after she killed two people.
And she's online talking about like modeling and [ __ ] Because people were calling her a murderer and making death threats and organizing groups to you know, take her out when she got out of the hospital and stuff. So I don't even want her phone. I don't care about her phone. I don't care about social media. I just wanted them to stop calling her a murderer so that when she did come to and she did come out of surgery, multiple surgeries, that she wouldn't see all these people calling her a murderer because she would never ever ever murder the love of her life, okay?
Halloween, for 3 months after the accident, she would only wear his clothes. She would only eat the snacks he ate.
She would only listen to the music he wrote, okay? She was laying in bed for 3 months crying. There was a shrine of him next to her with photos and things that he liked and this flower that lights up that he got her because he wanted it to be fresh and alive forever. It's like a little Beauty and the Beast flower.
Okay, she's got the shrine of him next to her. So, she was crying for 3 months.
So, her friends asked if she wanted to go out trick-or-treating there's a Halloween and it was like oh you. And she didn't even want to go. She said, "I don't know. Should I go go?" She couldn't even walk yet barely.
She went out on Halloween 3 months after she killed two people and made some Tik Tok cuz she's always on Tik Tok where she like is a dead person 3 months after she killed someone.
So, I told her I said, "Baby, please go.
It's Halloween. You've been laying for 3 months crying only listening to his music. Please go have just a moment of fun. A moment of fun." So, we told her to go. My husband drove her.
I brought her back home. I She just needed a second of fun from losing her whole world. Her whole world. So, that was us. We told her to go. And that concert she went to with Dom's cousin Abby, they picked her up. They brought her there. That was Dom, McKenzie, and Dom and Abby all decided to go to this concert together while they were in the hospital.
That was for Dom. Everything she did after the accident was either in honor of him to be close to him or just be by him anyway that she can.
She's like devastated and tragic. He was the air that she breathes. Okay? And they went with his cousin.
With We spent all kinds of time with them after the accident. What?
What was the other thing? What was the other thing? How about you write it down, [ __ ] I'm hearing a lot daughter.
I'm not hearing very much about the two dead people. I hear you actually cuz I I hear you talking a lot. Listen to what the judge said.
>> Dom and for the accident.
Um what was the other thing?
I'm hearing an awful lot about your daughter. I'm not hearing very much about the two dead people. I'm hearing a a about your daughter. I'm not hearing very much about the two dead people.
>> Dominic, okay? I'm asking you for a leniency because this was a tragic accident that she does not remember. And Davion, we don't he's a new friend. I'm so sorry.
>> mean? His life is worthless?
>> No, no, no. No. Davion, he's a new friend. What does that mean? His life is worthless? Oh my god. No. God, no. Not at all.
>> You know the judge is like, "Can I put you in jail, too?" That's what the judge is thinking right now. I wish I could put you in jail, too.
They all They all loved each other. They all spent every day together. You know what I mean? I don't I don't know too much from him.
>> problem, Mrs. Strong? Sorry? Isn't that part of the problem that they all trusted each other? Isn't that part of >> It's not a problem at all. It's It was wonderful.
>> all ended up in the car together and two of them ended up dead.
I understand. I understand what it looks like. I'm I'm I'm saying that it was a tragic accident. She would never >> But we're going to have to disagree on that. I understand.
>> Right. And I respect your position to disagree with you. I understand. But anyway, that's it. I just wanted to address those. We told her to go to those things, and then she did go with Dom's family. So, look at that. Don't look at it with the Look at that Look on that with different eyes, if you can, please. This is That Those things are not relevant. Not at all.
>> By the way, the girl was 17 years old, still in high school, and her parents allowed her to move in with Dom. Like, what kind of parents do that? Like, they like, "Oh, she was responsible, and they're probably going to get married."
But she's 17.
They let my 17-year-old daughter move in with a guy. Are you out of your mind?
I wouldn't want my 22-year-old daughter to move in with a guy.
Like, you're too young.
You should be like, what are you doing?
17?
You're a minor.
Not at all. Not at all. But she's a good If you would If you would have a moment, all you would need is 5 minutes of a conversation to have with her to learn who she is.
>> Oh, yes. You're goddamn right >> Just that You would just need 5 minutes to learn who she is and what she's capable of not doing and what she's doing. You'll see for yourself.
>> I 100% agree with that.
>> That's all. I'm so sorry, guys. Thank you. I'm sorry. I love you.
They didn't move in I don't believe that. I think Dom's thing Dom had an apartment, I thought.
I'm pretty sure.
Unless I'm screwing that up, but I don't know.
Uh okay.
All right, let me just uh refresh the turtle chats here if we have any. Got to get to get started here. But we need to do a McKenzie I can't go live tonight.
Um but I definitely need to do more stream Maybe we can have like McKenzie Mondays or something. We need to do a deep dive into this cuz this is good content. This is wild. Um Michael sent 10 bucks. Go support you always.
Get that grunge out of pool. I'll try my best. Thank you so much.
Um Alexis update on track.
Okay.
Uh all right.
Got a text about it.
Cash apps. Let's see if we have any.
No, we're good. All right, cool. All right, guys. I'm going to go get started with my day.
But I love all you fine people and uh you guys keep on keeping on and we will talk to you guys tomorrow night for sex cult or tomorrow morning for bus stop live, all right?
Don't forget to brush your teeth. Peace to you. Bump crease. Audi.
Top down, [music] riding down lanes.
It's a clear night. Screens glowing blue. Got the facts in my head. Lights coming well tripping, [music] but the truth stay calm. Morse and Lally I'mma read them like Psalms. Can't be throwing [music] shade from a broke down porch but the files in my lap like a flame to a torch. I don't raise my voice I just let the game [music] speak. Steady with the ground while the crooked run weak.
>> We just riding slow blind paper stacking [music] in the breeze. Turn the system up let the whole town see no mask on my face no fear in my lane. I'mma shine that light on the ones bringing shame.
[music] From the court rooms down to the city blocks. They can't hide from the truth cuz the truth don't stop. We just riding slow blind.
>> [music] >> Midnight oil burning. Pen hit the pad slow [music] every word cut clean like the rams on the sixth floor. From Boston to Brighton the whispers all heard.
Turtle boys riding in the wrecking and gone come. Lally in the back [music] room Morse on the phone trying to twist the narrative but they can't postpone.
I'm just [music] sipping on the facts while the city play pretend. Truth got no curfew I'mma run it to the end. See this ain't about fame.
This is about the long game.
>> [music and singing] >> You can duck you can weave but the truth still call your name.
>> riding slow blind [music] paper stacking in the breeze. Turn the system up let the whole town see no [music] mask on my face no fear in my lane. I'mma shine that light on the ones bringing shame.
From the court rooms down to the city blocks. They can't hide from the [music] truth cuz the truth don't stop. We just riding slow blind.
>> [music] >> From the court rooms down to the city blocks.
We just riding slow blind.
>> [music] [music]
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