She Says Women Shouldn’t Have Power… Then Can’t Defend It

[00:00:04]What do you support Trump?

[00:00:06]>> Um, I definitely think he's made a difference.

[00:00:10]>> Okay. How so?

[00:00:13]>> Um, the immigration act for sure.

[00:00:17]Um, I also feel strongly that women should not be in leadership roles.

[00:00:24]>> Okay. Why?

[00:00:26]Um, I think that women are obviously built differently, um, as we should be and we lead with our emotions. Um, so I don't think that someone should be running our nation if we're leading based off of emotions and not actual facts.

[00:00:45]>> Okay. So, you think that women are leading with emotions and not facts?

[00:00:49]What statistical evidence do you have to substantiate that women engage with emotion and not facts?

[00:00:56]>> I mean, we can go to like child birth and how women react to that.

[00:01:01]>> What about how they react to child birth?

[00:01:04]>> I mean, we're nurturing.

[00:01:05]>> You mean how they deal with more stress through child birth than men will typically?

[00:01:10]>> How were nurturers just in general?

[00:01:13]>> Yeah. Being a nurturer doesn't mean that you are more emotional and less factual.

[00:01:19]If anything, wouldn't that mean that you're more of you you're more in tune with your emotions, more likely to be able to deal with them in a more positive way? Because, you know, women on average, they have a higher emotional intelligence than men, right?

[00:01:32]>> Right.

[00:01:32]>> Women are less likely to resort to aggression and violence, right, in situations of high emotions comparative to men, which is indicative of not being able to control your emotions, right?

[00:01:43]I feel like that's not super accurate.

[00:01:46]>> Okay. So, what makes you think that men are better at controlling their emotions than women? Because everyone has emotions. Every every person, men, women, we all have emotions. So, what makes you think that women are worse at dealing with their emotions in a reasonable and factual way comparative to men?

[00:02:02]>> Based on the foundation which we were built, men were built to be leaders.

[00:02:07]>> I just I don't see any basis to say that. you're not providing. What basis do you have to say that men are quote unquote built to be leaders?

[00:02:14]>> Um, probably because I come from a biblical standpoint.

[00:02:18]>> Okay. So, the Bible says this, therefore it's true.

[00:02:22]>> That's never what I said.

[00:02:24]>> That's actually exactly what you just said. You come from a biblical standpoint. So, therefore, if the Bible says something, then it's true. Right.

[00:02:31]>> I said that is my standpoint. I never said this is what it says, so it's 100% true all the time.

[00:02:37]>> Okay. Where in the Bible does it say that uh women shouldn't be in leadership positions?

[00:02:43]>> I never said that. It stated that there.

[00:02:48]>> It does state that within the Bible. You just I think you're trolling cuz you don't know.

[00:02:53]>> No, I guess I've just never really gone over that aspect of it. I do know where it says husband leads your wives.

[00:03:01]>> Okay. But do do you not think that women are all supposed also supposed to lead their husbands?

[00:03:08]No, we're supposed to submit to our husbands.

[00:03:10]>> Okay. And uh when you say submit to your husband, what do you mean?

[00:03:16]>> We're supposed to honor them, love them, respect them, >> listen to.

[00:03:21]>> They're supposed to do the same thing to you, right?

[00:03:24]>> Um >> they're not supposed to honor honor you, love you, respect you, and listen to you.

[00:03:29]>> Yes. Obviously.

[00:03:30]>> So husbands submit to wives as well.

[00:03:33]>> Lead the house. So, so, so your husband would submit to you as well.

[00:03:38]>> How so?

[00:03:39]>> Because you just based upon the way that you defined submit, >> honor, respect, and love.

[00:03:46]That's that's submitting to you, right?

[00:03:48]Listening, that's submitting that both men and women will do that in relationship. So, you think that we're submitting to each other then, right?

[00:03:56]>> I guess in that aspect, but that's >> okay. So then what's unique to say that women would be submitting to men if you also think men are submitting to women >> in the way that it's supposed to be that men are supposed to lead the house, the home, the family.

[00:04:14]>> Okay. Why?

[00:04:17]>> Because they don't lead with their emotions.

[00:04:20]>> They do.

[00:04:21]>> But can you have no statistical basis to say that? You're just saying this based upon a trust me bro with no evidence. I guess so.

[00:04:30]>> Okay. Do you think that's sufficient basis to say that's true?

[00:04:37]>> Not always.

[00:04:39]>> Okay. So, would I be justified in in saying that um women deal with their emotions better and men are more emotional, therefore women should be leaders and men shouldn't be because men are more likely to unreasonably resort to emotions in negative ways?

[00:04:58]I don't see how men are the ones that normally resort to negative emotions, >> commit over 90% of violent crime. Most wars throughout history have been started by men. They're more likely to result to self alive uh unalive, right? When it comes to following through with it, finding more lethal ways to do so.

[00:05:21]>> Okay.

[00:05:22]>> They have lower emotional intelligence on average than women. They're like not socialized to even deal with their emotions outside of expressing it through anger.

[00:05:34]>> I don't know if that's necessarily true, but >> it is true.

[00:05:40]What makes you think that men are less or I mean are more reasonably emotional than women are?

[00:05:45]>> I guess just from the experience that I've had in life and >> yeah, my experience would be otherwise.

[00:05:52]The experience in my life is that women are less emotional than men.

[00:05:57]Especially like in gaming in the gaming community. Men slamming their desks, punching holes in walls, screaming at the top of their lungs, ragees.

[00:06:07]>> Okay. I've never seen anything that extreme, but that's >> Yeah, you could just watch a bunch of ragees from people who play Call of Duty and and whatnot.

[00:06:16]That's like a huge thing.

[00:06:20]>> Okay. I I don't watch any of that, so I wouldn't know.

[00:06:24]>> Okay. So So anecdotal experience isn't the best at being able to determine what's true.

[00:06:32]>> Sure. Okay.

[00:06:35]>> So then, so then why would you use that as a basis to say that women are more emotional than men?

[00:06:41]>> Just because like I said, off of experience that I've had.

[00:06:45]>> Okay. If Donald Trump and Kla Harris swapped bodies, Donald Trump and Kla Harris's body and Kla Harris and Donald Trump's body, who would you rather vote for?

[00:06:56]>> Their bodies are like their personalities as well.

[00:07:00]>> The only thing that changes is their consciousness, right? Which means personality, ideological beliefs, everything is put into the other person's body.

[00:07:09]So, Kla Harris and Donald Trump's body.

[00:07:11]Donald Trump in Kla Harris's body.

[00:07:17]>> I guess I just don't see it.

[00:07:20]>> Have you ever watched Freaky Friday?

[00:07:22]>> He has.

[00:07:23]>> Okay. Imagine that Freaky Friday moment happened for Trump and Harris. Who would you rather vote for? Trump and Harris's body or Harris and Trump's body?

[00:07:37]>> Yeah. I don't know.

[00:07:39]You don't know. Nothing about them as a person changed. Just what body they're in. And now you don't know who you'd vote for.

[00:07:49]So it's not based upon the qualities they have as a person. It's simply based upon their biology.

[00:07:55]>> No. No. No.

[00:07:56]>> Okay. So then if they swap bodies, why wouldn't you vote for Trump and Harris's body?

[00:08:03]Well, because I also don't agree with like abortion or letting illegals into our country. And >> so then you should vote for Trump and Harris's body, right?

[00:08:16]>> I suppose.

[00:08:17]>> So you would vote for a woman and you'd think the woman is a preferable leader.

[00:08:20]>> That's all hypothetical. It's not.

[00:08:22]>> Of course it's hypothetical.

[00:08:29]You can't just say because you right are emotional and you are less rational that means all women are that way. That's called projection.

[00:08:39]>> I'm not saying that I'm irrational.

[00:08:43]>> Well, that's true.

[00:08:46]>> That's fine.

[00:08:48]But I'm saying a lot of the women that I know and men that I know from what I've experienced, the men are usually the ones that are more mellow and reasonable.

[00:09:00]>> Well, that's just like a you thing because I've experienced the opposite.

[00:09:02]I've seen in in my life, the women have been more reasonable, mellow, and and less unreasonably emotional than men.

[00:09:12]>> Okay.

[00:09:12]>> So, again, we don't base our positions on anecdotes, right? Sure.

[00:09:18]>> Because based upon your argument then based upon this anecdote, I could say liberals are always smarter than conservatives because I've never met a conservative that was smarter than a liberal.

[00:09:29]>> Okay.

[00:09:30]>> Would that be a reasonable thing to say >> for you? Sure.

[00:09:34]>> Okay. Maybe.

[00:09:38]>> Okay.

[00:09:40]>> All right.

[00:09:41]>> So, is there anything Trump could do that would get you to stop supporting him?

[00:09:51]He could turn into Hitler >> if he was a violent sex offender. Would you still vote for him?

[00:09:58]>> Where is the proof though? Other than >> No, I'm just saying if it were true, if if he was a if he was legally defined by a court to be a violent sex offender, would you still vote for him?

[00:10:08]>> But where's the actual proof?

[00:10:10]>> Yeah, we'll talk about that in a second.

[00:10:11]If he was legally defined, right, as Right. A violent sex offender by a court. Would you then not support him?

[00:10:23]>> Um I don't support sex offenders, but I don't know what the evidence is.

[00:10:28]>> Well, he is a sex offender. He was held civily liable unanimously amongst a jury of nine people. Did you know that?

[00:10:39]>> That's civily liable.

[00:10:40]>> Yeah. So, he's legally defined as a sex offender, a violent sex offender based on civil law.

[00:10:51]>> Yeah, but that's not like >> Okay. So, you would vote for a violent sex offender if defined by civil law, >> but civil law is different. Oh, so like you don't accept the all the all the legal determinations that undocumented immigrants are undocumented or illegally in the country when they overstay their visa because it's a civil violation, not a criminal one, right? So the 40% of undocumented immigrants in the country who have overstayed their visa, you don't think that they should be deported from the country because the only way that you could do so is by utilizing a civil court determination.

[00:11:27]>> Okay.

[00:11:33]I don't get the point in that, I guess.

[00:11:36]>> Do you think women should have the right to vote?

[00:11:43]>> I mean, yeah.

[00:11:44]>> Yeah.

[00:11:46]So, why shouldn't they be allowed to be a politician?

[00:11:52]>> I guess there's no specific statistical reason.

[00:11:58]Just because you feel like it.

[00:12:00]>> Not just I feel like it. I guess it's just a personal belief.

[00:12:03]>> Yeah. Isn't it weird like that you're a woman arguing for women to not be able to be in leadership positions?

[00:12:10]Aren't you trying to like lead an argument right now? Aren't you taking a leadership role and trying to argue a a point of view?

[00:12:19]>> I guess I don't feel like it's an argument as much as a conversation.

[00:12:22]>> Yeah, but you're you're arguing a position, right? Is that not a leadership role? Yeah.

[00:12:28]>> To take a leadership position and argue on behalf of your ideological framework that someone should agree with your position.

[00:12:38]>> I mean, >> like, how are you going to let a man argue for more rights and freedoms for women than you?

[00:12:47]>> Isn't that kind of embarrassing?

[00:12:51]that on the stream the man is the one defending women to have the right to be leaders, whereas the woman on the stream is saying women shouldn't have the right to be leaders because you think that they're too emotional.

[00:13:03]Like, doesn't it just sound like you're perpetuating misogynistic standards that disenfranchise women from being able to be in leadership positions to then promote the idea that women are subjugated by men.

[00:13:14]So all you're doing is just promoting the very systems that have subjugated women historically.

[00:13:19]>> Promoting every anything by having a conversation about it though.

[00:13:22]>> Well, if you're saying that women shouldn't be in leadership positions, you're absolutely re you're absolutely reimposing the idea that women should be subjugated by the system because they shouldn't have power over the system to control it or operate it in the manner in which represents them their own views.

[00:13:38]>> Yeah. But it's not like I'm going around actually petitioning an or petitioning.

[00:13:42]You're on a live stream in front of like 7,000 8,000 people arguing to do that right now.

[00:13:50]>> Yeah. Over 8,000 people are in the stream.

[00:13:52]>> 8,500 people. And you're and you're in front of 8,500 people saying that women shouldn't be in leadership positions.

[00:14:02]>> Okay.

[00:14:03]That's just my view on it.

[00:14:05]>> Yeah. But don't you realize how absurd that is? agree to disagree that like how I feel is my own personal belief.

[00:14:13]>> Yeah, I understand that's your personal belief, but what I'm telling you is your personal belief makes no goddamn sense and puts women back. It does objectively.

[00:14:23]>> It's not taking any rights away just because I personally >> to say that women shouldn't be allowed in leadership positions. Yes, it is.

[00:14:32]>> I said we shouldn't be. Never said that we shouldn't be allowed to.

[00:14:36]Oh, okay. So, so we so women should be allowed to be in leadership positions.

[00:14:41]You just think that they shouldn't be.

[00:14:43]>> Correct.

[00:14:44]>> Okay. So, I have a question. Who would you rather vote for? Nikki Haley or Joe Biden?

[00:14:50]>> I have no idea who Nikki Haley is.

[00:14:52]>> A conservative Christian.

[00:15:02]Still don't know that one. Would you rather vote for yourself or Joe Biden for president?

[00:15:10]>> Um, certainly not myself.

[00:15:12]>> So, Joe Biden, you'd rather Joe Biden be the president of the United States than yourself?

[00:15:19]>> No, at that point.

[00:15:22]>> Okay. So, would you rather vote for Kla Harris or not Kla Harris, Joe Biden or woman Trump?

[00:15:29]like Trump. Just if Trump was a woman, >> I don't know.

[00:15:42]>> You don't know if you'd rather vote for Joe Biden or Trump as a woman?

[00:15:48]>> Okay. But it also comes down to like if you're since we're doing like this hypotheticals and all this stuff, >> your health is getting broken into. Do you want to stand in front of a person that's breaking into your house or do you want your wife to >> What? I'm I'm confused how this is anything to do with leadership.

[00:16:08]>> Well, since we're doing hypotheticals that literally don't make any sense that aren't going to happen, putting people in other people's bodies and freaky Friday bull crap.

[00:16:19]Um, >> yeah. I'm saying I'd feel safer putting my husband first because he knows how to defend rather than putting a woman first that like myself probably cannot.

[00:16:32]>> It depends on the man, depends on the woman, right? I would do that specifically for my girlfriend because I genuinely want to keep my girlfriend safe. But there could be a circumstance that's that's prevalent where the woman is a significantly better more equipped person for dealing with people, right, who are intruders in the house comparative to a husband. Let's for let's for let's for example say if uh there was someone that had my stature that was in a relationship with Ronda Rousey, who would be more qualified to deal with an intruder? Someone with my stature or Ronda Rousey?

[00:17:12]your stature.

[00:17:15]>> She's a professional fighter. You know that, right?

[00:17:18]>> Yep.

[00:17:19]>> She would beat the out of me.

[00:17:22]No contest.

[00:17:25]I would get my ass beat by Ronda Rousey.

[00:17:27]Okay. What type of comparison? Are you serious?

[00:17:32]You You think you think you would you would rather me than Ronda Rousey a professional fighter?

[00:17:42]No, I was kind of being an ass about it because I'm kind of over the comparisons.

[00:17:47]>> Okay.

[00:17:48]>> Is there anything else that we can talk about that's like actually legit >> Tell me what you want to talk about other than your misogynistic views.

[00:17:59]>> Yeah, let's talk about illegal im immigrants then since that was a big topic from earlier. Yeah.

[00:18:05]>> Why do you feel like we should let them in?

[00:18:09]I believe that we should provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who haven't committed a violent or serious offense.

[00:18:14]>> And we don't have that.

[00:18:16]>> Nope.

[00:18:18]>> How do we not?

[00:18:19]>> Uh because they're deported.

[00:18:23]>> So there's no steps that they can take to >> No, not while they stay in the country.

[00:18:27]No.

[00:18:29]>> Why can't they do it from their home?

[00:18:31]What is wrong with that?

[00:18:33]>> Because it takes years to go through the legal process. So why would the hell would they do that? But if there's a legal process, then we have a process.

[00:18:40]So it's not that they don't have anything.

[00:18:44]It's they just want it now rather than actually going through the steps that they should.

[00:18:50]Yes. Is that what I'm understanding?

[00:18:54]>> No, I'm not understanding what you're saying at this point. You could try that one more time if you'd like.

[00:18:59]You're saying that we don't have any sort of space for illegal immigrants to come?

[00:19:06]Yes.

[00:19:07]>> Like that there's no current legal process for them takes so long, which is what incentivizes them to go through said legal process.

[00:19:16]>> Okay. So, why can't they go through the legal process?

[00:19:20]>> I just told you because the current process takes several years on average and cost thousands of dollars. So, it's not that they can't go through it, it's that they're not incentivized to do so.

[00:19:30]So, what I'm saying is that we provide better incentives for them to go through said legal process if we provide a quicker legal process.

[00:19:39]>> Why do they need to be incentivized?

[00:19:41]Like, I don't get that part though.

[00:19:43]>> Because that's how human behavior operates is that we engage in behaviors based upon systems of incentives.

[00:19:51]That's how we control human behavior within a society. whether it be through a legal system, through economics, through social governance. Um there's there's countless things like this is just literally how we run a society is through a system of incentives.

[00:20:08]>> I'm not disagreeing with the point that we need a better process, but if there is one, then I don't understand why people can't just take those steps.

[00:20:16]>> Well, there isn't one. That's why >> you literally just said there was and it just takes years.

[00:20:24]>> Yeah, that's not a better process.

[00:20:26]>> I didn't say a better process.

[00:20:28]>> That's exactly what you said.

[00:20:30]>> I said I don't disagree that we need a better process.

[00:20:33]>> You just said better process again.

[00:20:36]>> Right. However, there is still a process.

[00:20:40]>> Okay. That >> they can go through.

[00:20:41]>> Yeah. But I don't think it's a good enough process.

[00:20:48]Okay.

[00:20:49]>> Again, if you care about people committing crimes, you wouldn't support a convicted felon over a former prosecutor, former district attorney, and former attorney general.

[00:21:00]>> Okay.

[00:21:08]>> Are you done talking to me?

[00:21:10]>> I think I'm kind of over it. Yeah, because it's just not I don't know.

[00:21:15]I I think you have the most ridiculous views ever.

[00:21:20]Like I just I I like genuinely I can't fathom why you want to hold the views that you have.

[00:21:27]>> That I want a man to protect and to lead.

[00:21:32]>> No, that you think that only men can do that.

[00:21:35]>> I never said only men can.

[00:21:38]>> Oh, you said men are better at that, right?

[00:21:41]>> Correct. But you have no basis for saying that.

[00:21:47]Like if a woman is a better leader and a better protector than a man, should she do it then?

[00:21:52]She left.