'YAKUBU GOWON IS A LIAR' - TONY NNADI, ESQ

Ajouté : 2026-06-03

[00:00:00][music] Nigeria finds itself staring once again into the mirror of its founding traumas.

[00:00:08]At 92, former head of state Yakub Goan has released his long awaited memoir, My Life of Duty and Allegence, a sweeping 881page defense of the decisions that kept Nigeria united through the horrors of the 1967 to 1970 civil war. But rather than closing the book on history, it has reopened deep unresolved grievances across the federation. More than 55 years after Bafra, many ethnic nationalities, Eboss in the southeast, groups in the Niger Delta, Euroba voices in the southwest, and communities in the middle belt continue to argue that the highly centralized Nigerian state forged and hardened under military rule has failed to deliver equity, justice or joining inclusion. Their calls for self-determination through federalism or even outright autonomy grow louder amid persistent feelings of marginalization, resource plunder, and cultural erasure.

[00:01:10]Goan insists Nigeria will not fall. But can a federation held together by force of arms and oil revenue truly endure without addressing these simmering demands for restructuring or secession?

[00:01:25]Tonight, we'll explore the aftermath of Goan's memoir and the mounting challenges facing a Nigerian federation that many of its own citizens increasingly question. This is the Eastern Eye. I am Alex Abudo.

[00:01:42][music] [music] [music] Welcome to the Eastern Eye, a program that X-rays the political, social, and economic developments around us. Joining me tonight is Tony Nadi. He's the secretary general of LNC and co-founder of Nenas. Thank you so much, sir, for joining me tonight on the Eastern Eye.

[00:02:15]>> Thank you.

[00:02:17]I I guess the first question would be whether you've had time to read some of the pages of uh Goan's memoir.

[00:02:27]Uh not not at all. There's nothing to there's nothing other than lies to expect from whatever Yakobong will write. And uh uh the only thing I've done is to watch his interview. I think he was on TV with Chasano and uh he he he did not he did not disappoint because you saw the kind of lies he you know he had to he was reeling out at 91. Goan says that the that that the bullets that they expended in eastern in in Bafra were hitting palm trees. So the 3.5 million drops that died uh were all the imagination uh the concoction of those who claim genocide is it's is is terrible that at this age the same lies that led to the killings in the first place. The lie that it was an ebo coup he emerged the beneficiary from the counter coup that was supposed to be a revenge of that coup. his co-traers, his uh his partners in the crime of genocide have have all confessed uh you know uh to the contrary. We saw when Ibraim Bangida you know launched his autobiography saying that it was not an ebook coup. We saw very recently whenas you know said they shouldn't have fired they shouldn't have opened any fight with the bafas.

[00:04:01]I've had the privilege of of of sitting eyeball to eyeball with the topmost actors in that entire episode on the two sides. There's nobody alive in Nigeria today that could claim to have spent more time in private with Chief Anthony Nooro discussing these matters. Anthony Nooro was the spokesman of the federal government of Gawan in that entire you know episode of war from when election of 64 to 65 commotion that became 66 January and all of how it proceeded to killings and pilgrims that went to Aburi before it became a you know a fracturing of the federation by goan in May of of 1967. then the the the declaration on the 30th of May and then the the firing of the first shot at Gak and you know at every point in time the situation I want I want us we're going to dedicate most of the time we have today to look around Nigeria and see the connection between those lies Gwan and people like him have brought us to where we have a country that is built on a foundation of lies and uh and and bloodshed because you you will require violence to maintain false suit. That's how we arrived at 1975 when they said Mella Muhammad his partner in that crime of 1966 July where where they began to kill the he killed his commander-in-chief and you know began to tell all kinds of tales about not being involved. What what which truth have we ever heard from Gwan? You heard in the past where he talked about, you know, having malaria. They came back from Aguri. They agreed on on everything, signed it, ready to over, sign, and then he comes back and then he begins to he began to tell us that malaria struck him down from making the announcement from from from telling the country that was waiting in in in in in anxiety what they agreed on in Aburi.

[00:06:11]He he lies that it was malaria and then he goes from that to lie again about you know being the one who changed the goal post the genocide that the whole world recorded and in fact I'm glad to have here this is an 800page volume for the gan that is writing 801 this is an 800page volume that documents the entire last six years from late 64 throughout 65 throughout 66 67 68 69 all the way to November of 1970 every day of what transpired across that entire period in all the locations in all the locations whether it was the Nigerian side or the Bafan side. This is from the from the I foreign eyewitnesses who recorded unedited unedited every single thing that transpired on the two sides and then at the international circuit whether it was at the UN or in OUaba wherever inside Bafra inside Nigeria on the warfront in the in the in the back room uh you know discussions in Vatican and everywhere. So the the reason the reason the teaching of history was uh banished in Nigeria, so we now have people in their 50s and 60s who do not even know the truth. But I can I can I can I can tell them that part of our project was to dig out this truth. And uh this is from this is from the official historian of the United States on Bafra. that is the the the the US appointed an agency to monitor everything and and and and record what was going on in the place. And so we have that now. We also have the testimony of the actual you know uh uh uh not just participants the actual principal actors in the entire event.

[00:08:18]Ojuko for instance who was the one on whose shoulders he fell to manage the eastern region side of matters until he became Bafra uh to the to to to 1970.

[00:08:30]And so if we if we have the testimony of the actual executives, the actual participants on the two sides, if if Enoro uh h shared his experiences and the facts of what transpired with us, if Ojuko shared with us, if CO shared with us, if who was locked down throughout that war shared with us, if Ibrahim Bangada confessed, If Ambassador confess is still alive, he was the one who everything we we we say about H what's his name? The one they call Scorpion Adra was in that war. I remember by the time we were heading up to what became Nina's eventual we had finished. He was in Nadeo. He was almost killed. He he now came into we we we finished and we now challenge the constitution that came out from Gwan's life because that's how we came about this this this chart of death that is bringing Nigeria now to to to to to his terminus that Nigeria that is defined by this conitution is is a product of the lies that became genocide and then the the the chief executioner the one who organized the killings from July of 1967 Y what's his name Muhammad then commissioned in 1975 as victory charter from that war a constitution the the unitary conitution that took us away from everything we agreed to be in a union and so I'm just saying that uh there have been there have been several instances of where goan would tell this kind of lie that became the basis of union now the lie and the bloodshed that follow that's how we got to where we are and if We want to know the the gravity of what Gwan has done. We we we only need to look around Nigeria now and see where the blood is flowing and try to find ask ourselves how did we come about this bloodshed.

[00:10:37]Make a map of Nigeria. Look at where where where where the killings are taking place. Look back 58 years and see who from where did things that resemble what WE SEE NOW. LET THOSE BEING SLAUGHTERED IN PLATEAU. LET THOSE be sed across the entire middle belt.

[00:10:58]LOOK BACK AND SEE WHAT Gwan and Jani and Danuma did in eastern Nigeria.

[00:11:07]It is the blood of the innocent that Nigeria have killed and have been have been have been denying to death. Nigeria cannot even cannot even accept the truth of SHEDDING INNOCENT BLOOD. EVEN WHEN THOSE WHO did it have come public to say it was a lie that I organized a coup. Ibrian Bang is still alive.

[00:11:32]Abas is still alive. And they said IF HE KNEW WHAT he knew now he would not have partaken in fighting the east.

[00:11:42]So who else do we need to go TO ASK? THE FOREIGNERS WHO WITNESSED IT. I had the privilege of going to the UN at the time we were looking for for how to get about this instrument on self determination. I had the privilege of h of and and and and the and the the good luck of h finding a relation that was willing to go to Kofan. At the time we needed to get ready for enforcing the consensus we had built against the unitary constitution of Nigeria and the and the and the alliance of 197 led by the fan enforcing it against all of us that rendered us in our homeland.

[00:12:22]SHOWING HER WHO WAS LOCKED DOWN THROUGHOUT THAT WAR FOR TRYING TO get in the middle because there was no basis of going to kill people. He tried to go to settle between and go of the time and then Goan grabbed him and locked him down throughout that war did not see the war because he tried to stand in the middle and Goan you know they they they put a lie on his head that he was spying against them on the side of Ojuku. These are the kind of lies that we have BUILT OUR LIVES ON. THAT IS WHY NIGERIA IS BLEEDING NOW. THOSE WHO HAVE WHO ARE BEING KILLED IN OO TO LOOK AROUND SEE WHETHER there's a there's there's some ROLE THAT THAT PEOPLE FROM THEIR PART OF THE COUNTRY PLAYED IN KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE. IT IS THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT that Gwan AND HIS PARTNERS IN THE CRIME OF GENOCIDE. IT IS THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT EVIL THEY KILLED TO TAKE THE OIL THAT HAS NOW DROWNED NIGERIA. Govern said in in recent time that it was because of the oil that Nigeria, you know, must take from eastern Nigeria that they had to go to KILL THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THEY KILLED. AND said so too, not only on on video, in his memor to say that the claim that the fight was about unity was a lie. That it was a fight that his his mandate as a commander in the war front his mandate was the oil of the east and Goan has confessed it recently that the that it was because the east will go away with the oil and what is that east other than the ebo.

[00:13:59]So it is it is it is it IS THE HATRED OF OF OF those who executed that genocide that they that they are still denying to this day. They can't even THEY CAN'T EVEN OWN UP and they expecting peace. SO THEY BUILT THEIR Nigeria on the basis on the foundation of falsehood and bloodshed and that is why Nigeria is the way it is now because it was in that setting that they now fractured the part of their allies whether it was decree number 34 that that took Nigeria away from being a federation. Look at it. The the the the the revolution of January 15th happened from middle rank office. The government at the center had collapsed. The government of two regions had collapsed. The the the top leaders, you know, the political leaders, you know, most of them dead. There was no no kind of thing, nothing that would become governors if the head of the army of the time doesn't step forward to pull things together. But they're turning it all around. And again, just before I forget, just yesterday, the cost British Broadcasting Corporation, this BBC that is cost from from from generation from CENTURIES BACK CAME OUT WITH A DOCUMENTARY TO BACK UP THE FALSEHOOD OF Ban in his autobiography ABOUT BAFRA. WHY WILL IT BE THE BRITISH THAT TURNED a a a little political quarrel into a war? because they wanted TO SEIZE OIL. WHY WILL IT BE British and a a a Yoruba h you know collaborator that will tell the STORY OF BAFRA? LET THE BBC BE TOLD VERY CLEARLY THAT THE BLOOD THEY SHED IN EASTERN Nigeria will avenge itself on the United Kingdom. The the the Muslim extremists that are now turning the UK into a Sharia territory.

[00:16:06]it is happening to them and worse things will happen because they orchestrated genocide in order to take oil. THEY LIED ABOUT IT, COVERED IT up to date.

[00:16:19]Unfortunately for them, that Nigeria that has emerged from from from that brigand date.

[00:16:28]I owe it a duty to myself and the generation after me and there are quite a number of us. All right.

[00:16:37]>> Who have committed OURSELVES TO PUTTING THAT UNITARY NIGERIA TO death >> Mr. Nigeria defined by this conitution will have to BE PUT TO DEATH.

[00:16:47]>> MR. Nadi >> in order to restore life in order to restore life. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE federation of Nigeria.

[00:16:53]>> Yes, Mr. Nadi. Federation of Nigeria. I tell you I'll be the first on the construction side.

[00:16:58]>> Great. Mr. We are not talking about the federation of Nigeria. We're talking about the Nigeria of master and servant.

[00:17:04]>> Yes. defined by this terrible this this >> Mr. We will take a quick break at this point. We will take a quick break so we can continue the conversation. Thank you so much.

[00:17:18][music] We welcome back to the Eastern Here on Afia TV a program that X-rays the political social and economic developments around us. I still have joining me virtually uh Tony Nadi who is the secretary general of LNC that's the lower NA congress and the co-founder of NAS that's Nigerian indigenous nationalities alliance for self-determination thank you for joining us on the eastern eye so um just one thing because a lot of times when these conversations about what happened especially during the buildup to the civil war around that time it's always about how the eastern Nigeria just wanted to secede and go their own way.

[00:18:06]Something happened at Aburi and uh you've also referenced the fact that now Goan is coming out to say that he had fever at the time. That's the reason why he did not process what was discussed.

[00:18:19]But he agreed because uh their host at the time asked them whether you want anything changed and they all agreed it was fine. the the shukans drank tea even had a ride with their host at the time to the airport. So what went wrong with the Aburi accord and whatever it is that was discussed and finally they decided to commence the police action as it were because the civil war started as a police action. The Abururi accord they had a number of things on the table.

[00:18:51]Nigeria will remain a loose federation.

[00:18:53]Each region will control its own military forces locally. The central government would not make major decisions without approval of all regional governors and regions would have greater autonomy over resources and administration. And then this was on the 4th and 5th of January 1967. Uh but then oil was discovered in the south south.

[00:19:18]So was this about oil really? All this agreement were thrown into the dust bin because of oil.

[00:19:28]>> Uh oil oil is central to it but it wasn't discovered in that period.

[00:19:32]>> What happened was that the lying British uh had concealed the oil the quantum of oil they were taking away. Nigeria was their possession up till independence.

[00:19:45]The British sold Nigeria's oil for over 50 years before owning up to Oloy because independence was coming. If you doubt me, find out from people who live in Norway or who are familiar with whether there's a place called Shell Camp in Nor Shell was headquartered this same Shell that is still here. Shell was headquartered in that Shell camp that place called Shell Camp now for 42 years before going to court in 1960. MI operator then bought the property of of that shell head facility that property to tell you how live it is. Uh if you know where Motor is in uh Oeri, from that Motor turns right into Alvado, the university, then the federal medical center next to it, and then all of the police facility, the government house of Aeri sits in the middle of this vast expanse. If you if you can imagine the size of the compound that was shell compound that was now split by the government of when when it was a provincial at the time Emma bought that property from as shell was relocating to so uh it wasn't in 1966 that they discovered oil they have been selling the oil and we the approach of independence compelled them to say oh we have found some small quantity but it was not until that July of 1966 when Gowan and his partners in crime declared ara that the British high commissioner now had to you know was presently the one that stopped them from seceding because he whispered to them that the east has so much oil that was the point at which the British opened the books to show them the quantum of oil they didn't have any they they the the the the eastern region of the town was richer than the federal government was the the officers from that other side. I mean the the those who were running the illicit federal government and declared because the federation had collapsed and they they continue to operate as a federal government from the time they split the fed the the you know the collap federation into 12 states h then handing over taking over the assets the economic assets of the ferating region that's what we are still trying to solve to this date and so it was oil essentially but it was the British and their fan friends joined by the relegate elements from the southwest.

[00:22:32]I'm choosing my words because we are still in the midst of that quagmire. We are still in the midst of bleeding from every side. We are still in the midst of something that will get far worse than what we saw before if we do not find the common sense to uh begin to look for answers while we can still find the answers for those who are who are preparing to go to election. We are talking about the federation that collapsed and people imposed by brigandage and force a constitution that now locus into a unitary union in which fan we saw when the US hearing on Nigeria was taking place in February this year that he talked about what kind of constitution is it that allow the full to roam freely with AK-47. Seven for those who where the people who the people who they are killing do not have access to any weapons.

[00:23:34]It is it is it is this inverted federation that gan and co imposed on all of us that has brought us to where the fani coming from 16 different countries according to the account of who went to give them money while he was governor in Karuna. And so these people are an organized army from the days of manio to the amadello that said that the that the Nigeria should be an estate of their great-grandfather. I'm trying to tell us the backdrop to what became war and what we are still trying to solve to this day. It is the full conquest agenda supported by the British that brought us into this unitary arrangement because they had to now enforce it. I remember how Amado had crafted his uh battle script, his his mission statement in which he was telling them that the new nation called Nigeria must be an estate of their great-grandfather Utman Fodio and that on no account should there be a change of power that they have to ruthlessly prevent it and that they will have to use you know that that the the the minorities of the north as willing to that is the characters like Yakuban characters like the Danjuma. The danga that gave 3 billion naira to Gwan the other day. That is Gwan's share of the blood money they uh they made from shedding innocent blood. That is Gwan's share of of of because he was dislodged in 1975 by Mut Muhammad. So he wasn't here when they began to alloc you know share Nigeria's commonwealth among themselves. So the the the portion that Daniela got that's from where he could find 3 billion to give to the the head of the G who continue to pretend he's any he he wasn't involved in anything and so that question of what went wrong in Aburi it was a clear you know orchestration of genocide in order to take over the oil and the British sat at the top of it.

[00:25:56]Their their local h enforcers the fi and the alliance of 1967. I'm sure you remember the the map of the dot in circle. The map I'm sure you can find it if you look around for it. the map that at least I want it on display so that those listening can see why Nigeria is is dying right now. If you show that map and the dot in circle it shows, you will see the alliance of the rest of Nigeria that decided to commit genocide against which they've not e owned up to to this date and imposing as a charter of victory from that war of genocide a constitution that permanently excludes the ebo from the management of Nigeria that permanently subjugates the ebo in all things that permanently lock the uh you know landlock not because they change anything in geography but because they cut eastern region into three the entire you know h part aborting the Atlantic Ocean became river state the entire part aborting the Cameroonian h you know border became southeastern state that southeastern state is today's cross river and aqua that river state of 1967 is today's rivers and besa then the the hinderland they call east central state is what they've now carved into five sou east the so-al southeast I don't want to hear about southeast because it is their own creation to to to fracture the ebo and and and lock them into a station where they cannot there's any issue in the decision making process anything in Nigeria.

[00:27:55]>> All right.

[00:27:56]>> But look around Nigeria and tell me who else is building that Nigeria. Tell me how many Euroba people are building in Enobu and can tell me how many how many eani people are developing other parts.

[00:28:12]All the ebo believed in Nigeria so much that they settle wherever they go, begin to develop wherever they are. They look at the treatment Nigeria is given to them. But unfortunately for that Nigeria, very very unfortunately for that Nigeria, the title did by which the union is held together. Is this a forgery? They call the 1999 conitution which claimed falsely that we submitted our sovereignty into the union to be managed the way uh the they scripted in their in their conquest document. And so since it is my signature that you have to sustain that we have we have organized the victims of unitary Nigeria. We are now a majority.

[00:29:00]It doesn't matter the quantum of noise that anybody may want to bring to it to take down that constitution and end the union that is anchored on it. Those who place premium on the value of life, those who hold life circumstant that is those who agree on certainty of life, those who agree on equality of men will go to another meeting to discuss what kind of union they may want to have and that is if they want otherwise by virtue of this instrument from the UN which I was privileged to be part of how it came in 2007.

[00:29:40]I can assure you that the Union of Nigeria is as we speak at an end.

[00:29:44]>> All right?

[00:29:45]>> Because by the time they were heading to election in 2023, remember >> Mr. Nadi, >> there's really no Nigeria to govern now.

[00:29:52]>> Mr. Nad, >> Mr. Nad, we need to take a quick break.

[00:29:56]When we come back, we can get that map you are referring to, the dots in a circle and then we'll expand on the points you are raising. Easter I takes a break when we return shortly. Stay with us.

[00:30:09]>> [music] [music] [music] >> Augu East Senatorial Zone proudly host the BEGA rally in solidarity with President [music] Bola. Ahmed ECFR and his excellency Dr. Peter Nubis governor of Enugo state all roads lead to operas square as gather to reaffirm their support for the administration delivering results across bordu east and cano west. This is more than a rally. It is the mother of all rallies a movement of unity and renewed hope. Date Saturday or 6th June 2026 venue opera square Eno time 10:00 a.m. and to come out and mass and support the visionary leaders that have given us bragging right in one tenure of governance. Lord Peter and Simba on your mandate we stand. [groaning] signed honorable Dickin Ouo chairman steering committee right honorable prince USA MNIPR chairman media and publicity [music] tomorrow is here [music] [music] >> [music] [music] >> You're welcome back. This is the Eastern Eye here on AIA TV. My name is Alex Auroro. In continuing the conversation, let's take a look at what the indigenous nationalities will need to do. Uh because we've had this conversation for quite some time. What needs to be done at this point? And I ask again, are the people in power aware that the indigenous nationalities are actually the real owners of the country and not those at the helm as it were? Help us put that in perspective. And also going back to the talk about dot in a circle, I think we have that map now.

[00:32:43]>> Yes.

[00:32:45]The people in Abuja now pretending to be government.

[00:32:52]There was an election in 2023.

[00:32:59]We saw how that election went.

[00:33:02]If anybody is still in doubt whether PB uh whether or not PB won the election, they can continue.

[00:33:10]But we saw that the Supreme Court abandoned the constitution that required two to majority to third you know uh 25% in two thirds of the states which is 24 states and the federal capital territory the provision was so clear I remember on behalf of NAS we made a broadcast before the matter went to the supreme court when the court of appeal h was now dancing to the beat of I remember going out there as a lawyer who knows exactly what is written who is in a position to address the justices of the Supreme Court to be careful so that they don't create a bigger problem than the one they were trying to solve. We told them that there were three grounds upon which what INC did in that election could not uh should not be allowed to stand. The first is the constitutional ground in which uh the requirement for 25% in at least two thirds which is 24 states and the federal capital territory that's a separate requirement from the 24 states.

[00:34:26]We told the Supreme Court that if they will abandon that provision at a time we were targeting the demise of that constitution, the crashing of that constitution that we will join them to make sure that the constitution is h killed on the streets.

[00:34:48]There's also the ground of law in which the INC that set the regulations about how they will conduct the election abandon those regulations on the day of election. Whereas at law if an agency is empowered by law to do some business on behalf of government any regulations made conuant to that law becomes a part of that law. But I All right. I I think we've uh lost connection with uh uh Mr. Tony Nadi there. We'll take a quick break to make that reconnection. When we'll return, we'll continue the conversation. Stay with us.

[00:35:36][music] [music] You're welcome back to the Eastern Eye. And uh Mr. Nadi was actually trying to uh make a point before we lost that connection. Uh please do kindly continue with that point you were making. Uh Mr. Nadi, my apologies for the third break.

[00:35:58]>> Yeah. So very quickly uh I'm saying that uh where we are now because there's still this noise of 2027 election uh mandated by this same constitution of death and people actually preparing to go to renew the life of that constitution at a time everybody who cares about the peoples of Nigeria because there's Nigeria the entity there are there are also the peoples of Nigeria trapped in that entity and so Nina's concern now is about the 250 million people trapped in the sinking ship of the Nigerian state.

[00:36:37]We had the opportunity to save both the Nigerian state and the people of Nigeria at the time we went to Aburi. Since after a 59 years, we have every day of this 59 years to save the two by going to rework our union to a union of life instead of a union of death. that has been for a majority. Initially people thought it was going to be only the EO that will be killed. If you were to show us that man so that those who are listening can see the kind of calamity and atrocity we're talking about.

[00:37:13]Yes, that e we can use this the portion in color uh is the five uh south soal southeast. You will see that uh the reason Bhari called it dodging circle was that uh they the they they shut out the borders the international borders the entire cross river you could see above Cameroon the entire rivers h and besa above the Atlantic Ocean. It was to it was to reduce the land sides and landlock that portion into not having access so that they could encircle the place 360° and kill off those who were there or those the ebo of the hinder. Meanwhile, IF ANYBODY IS STUPID enough to h join AI in court to say he's no longer able, if anybody stupid enough to join Oka in to say he's no longer able, then that is their that's their headed. the day if anybody was stupid enough to join a me and Kipu ebe that was in NNPC or whatever the oil ministry of the time of Bhari if anybody was stupid enough to to agree with them that they were no longer able will only say good luck to all of you but the day of the day the Ebo will be killed they will be killed. Look back at what happened in Asaba massacre.

[00:39:02]They came to welcome the Nigerian troops singing one Nigerian but Nigeria Mut Muhammad and co were not seeing anything other than the ebo they came to kill.

[00:39:18]A me is where he is today on account of being evil.

[00:39:25]He did all the atrocities with Bhari.

[00:39:30]But why was Bhari left and the me being treated the way he's been treated? That is the way it will be for wicked. The day they will the day they will turn against W that is the day he will realize his evil I'm the one that wants to go to contact and whether he's lost out now in in the stupidity of going to election that shouldn't be what I was saying before the uh the connection was lost is that we can we can dress back and tell ourel the truth that the constitution imposed as victory charter from the genocidal war between Bafra and Nigeria or east eastern region can no longer be tolerated as basis of union.

[00:40:27]Those who have been swearing to defend and uphold that constitution since 1999 have been committing treason against all of the rest of us. It is on account of that conitution that we are living in the corruption that is widening. Is on account of that conitution that we don't have electricity. Is on account of that con that the killings that are happening now and that is an emergency part of the entire large problem.

[00:40:56]The reason people are being slaughtered all over the Nigeria of today is that arms and ammunitions are on the exclusive list of that conitution and there are 68 such items.

[00:41:07]The reason elections have been going the way they've been going including the one of 2023 is because elections are on that exclusive list so that there's an index in Abuja to decide what happens in Yagua and what happens in Karan in a federation. It should not be. So it's on account of that concision that h we have this misery that young people are running away from Nigeria because the what is it that will keep them here? They can't find employment. How will you get employment if there's no electricity to generate that employment? And you are asking me whether the people in government are aware of what we are saying. Tilobu became governor of Lagos from the midst of Nadeo. There's nothing I will say now. There's nothing I've said concerning this matter that Tino is not aware of. There's nothing to explain to him anymore concerning the matter. Abola laid down his life because he said he will not govern for one day. That was what became Nadeo.

[00:42:19]Abola said he will not govern for one day with the constitution that mutah Muhammad and his confederates imposed on us in 1975. That was what consumed ABOLA'S LAND ON JUNE 12TH. Now they will all jump out and begin to wave a nade flag all over the place as people who are pursuing democracy on behalf of everybody. Golatinobu knows that the Nigeria of unitary because what was the problem with Ambassador Jo when Abas had to seize THE COUNCIL FUND BECAUSE TINO was standing with Ponaco for what we were doing in Oro and the rest of us who decided to call a meeting of the owners of Nigeria when Ambassador Jo refused you know we we approached Ambassador Joe I spent I spent FOUR YEARS TRYING TO GUIDE AMBASSADOR TO SOLVE this problem.

[00:43:11]He refused.

[00:43:14]Then we went to the owners of the sovereignty and we were lucky to have them turn up in what we then called 2005 2006. By the time we announced in 2004 after waiting for Ambassador for into the fifth year from 1999 by the time we announced that we are going to call a meeting of the owners of the sovereign to decide what they want to do with their their union that will die. Obas went on national TV to say it will amount to treason. Of course we have TO DEFY HIM. HE'S ALIVE. Let those who can find him ask him what transpired BETWEEN US. SO AMBASSADOR JOHN knew the TOOK OVER FROM AMBASSADOR SENT Bolatinu after he WAS SWORN IN AFTER YAD WAS SWORN IN. We had gone to court the week before 23rd of May in 2007 to say that the constitution of Nigeria was a fraud that could no longer be basis of union.

[00:44:14]Binta Yako took the file after the swearing because the husband had to be sworn sheled. Binta took that file to the chief do ofation WIFE WHO THEN TOOK HER TO YADA YADUA SENT Batinu to come to plead with us with FIVE MINISTERIAL SLOTS IS STILL ALIVE. LET anybody who can find him. I'M SURE HE'S WATCHING THIS PROGRAM. LET EVERYBODY ASK HIM WHETHER DID NOT SEND him to Enoro and to invite us TO COME TO JOIN THE GOVERNMENT. HE OFFERED SOME MINISTERIAL SLOTS, ambassador positions.

[00:44:55]We began to learn about all of that later so that we could solve this problem. OF COURSE, WE TOLD THEM THAT it's not something of coming to join the government. Let us agree. Let the announcement be made so that we leave the matter of four years mandate and go and solve this problem. They wanted to be in power. Of course, the other was ill. The matter didn't go anywhere because he was ill. So at no point was Tino a stranger to what? Because when ambassador then h before he finished his tenure in 2007 when ambassador seized the council fund it was because Tobu was insisting on Nigeria going back to what the federation should be that Lagos state should be able to do XYZ and Ambassador say it could not be.

[00:45:43]We stood with Tino.

[00:45:46]Some of the enemies being incurred in that period are still subsisting BECAUSE HE STOOD WITH him and then he he maneuvers and lands us into this mess of bringing Bhari to come and be president.

[00:46:00]Let those who KNOW WHERE TO FIND OUT FROM him whether he was not part of THE TEAM THAT CAME with with Bhari talking about people in government. So h this hbas knows the came after him knows the Jonathan that came after the yada of course took his time to listen and put his life on the line to stop this problem when he called the conference of 2014.

[00:46:29]I'm not telling you what somebody told me. I'm telling you what transpired eyeball to eyeball with all these h persons I've named.

[00:46:38]And so we have carried on as if we no longer understand what is being said. BUT THE OWNERS OF THE sovereignty are not going to wait and die. Wait until the fan had killed every one of them.

[00:46:54]Are we still there?

[00:46:55]>> Yeah. I mean we are we are actually we're actually out of time and uh uh it's been a very illuminating conversation with you uh Tinadi and uh lots of uh things are now brought into the four of course it's an ongoing conversation as always we'll bring you once in a while here to throw light on the importance of negotiating the federation with the real owners of Nigeria as you put it. Thank you so much. Uh >> yeah just before I go what we recommend is that we suspend this journey to this election and go and solve this problem.

[00:47:29]If we don't and we may have only the third quarter of 2026 to do so before it becomes something we can no longer do fully will come to everybody where they are as long as this conitution is standing. But if we want to save the people let us suspend this election and go and solve this problem that will be well stop. All right then, Tony Nadi, Secretary General, LNC, that's the Lower Niger Congress and co-founder of Nenas.

[00:47:52]Uh, thank you so much for your uh, insights on the program tonight. And that's the Eastern Eye for tonight. Do join us tomorrow for another episode of the program. My name is Alex Abodo. Good night.

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