Will Duffy Debunks Flat Earth Dave's Arguments

Hinzugefügt: 2026-05-27

[00:00:00]We took four flatearthers. We took four Globers and myself. So, nine of us went to Antarctica. All four admitted we were wrong. There is a 24-hour sun in Antarctica.

[00:00:10]>> Okay. So, you offered Dave Weiss a trip to Antarctica. He declined.

[00:00:14]>> You can freely and independently explore Antarctica. I'm going to let you and your audience in on the biggest secret of flat Earth. You ready for this?

[00:00:22]>> Yes.

[00:00:22]>> They don't have any evidence for a flat Earth.

[00:00:25]>> We're making a big deal out of nothing right now.

[00:00:28]>> No. No. No.

[00:00:28]>> No. We definitely are.

[00:00:29]>> No, we're not.

[00:00:30]>> I'm going to make an offer right now to flat earth Dave and you.

[00:00:33]>> Do you know why you're here? Because I want to get to the truth.

[00:00:36]>> I'm not here to fight you.

[00:00:38]>> Yes.

[00:00:38]>> I'm not a flatearther and I'm not a glober. I just want to get the truth.

[00:00:41]>> That's completely different.

[00:00:42]>> No, that's his belief system.

[00:00:44]>> Flatearthers are going against that.

[00:00:47]>> They don't. Do you think we went to the moon?

[00:00:49]>> Definitely.

[00:00:55]Wolf Duffy, you got a problem with flat earth days, do you?

[00:01:00]>> Uh, yes, you could say that. I I came all the way out here and I'm so glad to be here with you.

[00:01:05]>> I'm glad you came here. Thank you.

[00:01:07]>> Uh, someone sent me your podcast with Flat Earth Dave and I watched it and there was so many there was so much false information in there. I felt like I owed it to you to come and kind of set the record straight.

[00:01:21]>> Okay, let's do it.

[00:01:22]>> Okay, awesome.

[00:01:22]>> Cool. So, let me start by introducing myself, >> please.

[00:01:26]>> Uh, my name is Will Duffy. Uh, what I'm most known for is something called the final experiment. So, I created the final experiment back in 2024, and it was an expedition to Antarctica where we took four flatearthers and four globearthers, people who disagree on the shape of the earth, to Antarctica. And the reason we did this was because the flat earth community had said that there was no 24-hour sun in Antarctica.

[00:01:55]>> The 24-hour sun is a sun that never sets for an entire day. Sometimes it's referred to as the midnight sun.

[00:02:01]>> One day only a year.

[00:02:03]>> No, based on the location uh within what's known as the Antarctic Circle, it can be months at a time. Uh it's fascinating, but at the South Pole uh there's actually one one sunset a year.

[00:02:16]So, they have a 24-hour sun for 6 months out of the year.

[00:02:19]>> Okay.

[00:02:20]>> So, we went there and showed the flat earth community that they were wrong, that there is a 24-hour sun, and that led to the largest exodus of people from flat earth in history.

[00:02:32]>> You're glad?

[00:02:33]>> Uh, definitely. Yeah. That that's what made it a success.

[00:02:35]>> Okay. So, if there is a 24-hour sun at least for one day at the South Pole, it means that their flat earth ma map is not correct.

[00:02:43]>> That's exactly right. Yes. But it does not mean that the earth is a globe. Then >> um >> one does not meet mean another. Right.

[00:02:50]>> Well, the globe model predicts the 24-hour sun >> and it also makes thousands of predictions. I challenge flatearthers and I would challenge any flat-earthers who are watching this. The globe makes thousands upon thousands of predictions, future predictions based on specific geographical locations and what will happen at certain dates and times.

[00:03:12]>> Like what? Give me an example or two. Uh sure. So uh sunrise times, sunset times, uh sun elevation angle, eclipses, etc. >> And it's impossible on a flat earth map.

[00:03:25]>> Well, what I'm saying is this.

[00:03:26]>> You can predict the sunrise and sunset too, right?

[00:03:29]>> They cannot.

[00:03:30]>> Why not?

[00:03:30]>> Uh because it doesn't make any sense on a flat earth.

[00:03:34]>> They're saying that the sun is moving in like in a spiral. So they can they can predict it. uh there's changes that uh they don't really have an explanation for. Right? So in the globe model, we have what's known as the axial tilt and then we have the orbit around the sun.

[00:03:52]So all of these predictions are based on that. What I challenge flat-earthers to do is to is to tell me one prediction that the globe makes in the future that you think will be wrong. So I'll give you an example. The globe model is already predicting a total solar eclipse. Ready for this? in August of 2045.

[00:04:10]>> Okay.

[00:04:11]>> And they're stating it's going to happen. The the path of totality will go over Disney World. Disney World.

[00:04:18]>> That is a prediction based on spherical geometry. And that prediction will come true. The flat earth community does not understand how the path of totality of a solar eclipse is predicted. They don't have an answer for that. And the only way it's predicted is using the globe.

[00:04:35]>> Okay. So none none of the flat earthers can argue with you and tell you I can do a prediction.

[00:04:40]>> Correct. So what they'll do >> they try doing that?

[00:04:43]>> Uh no what they'll do is they'll mention the seros cycles which only predict the date and time but I'm not talking about the date and time. So if anybody brings up the serosycles that's not what I'm talking about.

[00:04:54]>> What is that?

[00:04:54]>> Uh the serosycles uh it's essentially a calendar of eclipses. So there there is there is somewhat of a pattern to when an eclipse happens, but there's not a pattern as to where. And so that's what I'm focused on is what's known as the path of totality. Have you ever seen an eclipse it in person?

[00:05:15]>> Yes.

[00:05:15]>> Okay. So getting into the path of totality is super important. If you're right outside of it, it's as if you didn't even see the eclipse essentially.

[00:05:23]That path of totality is built off of this globe. And so the globe model's already forwardlooking using spherical modeling and saying that path of totality will actually go straight over Disney World in August of 2045 which is almost 20 years away. And so people are already planning on going there to see that.

[00:05:45]>> Okay. Before we continue, I would love to hear uh what's what's your stance.

[00:05:50]>> Let me get this straight. The whole purpose of my show is to get to the truth. Not to be biased, but to get to the truth. Now, I know that this video is going to cause a lot of meltdown from the flat earth community, but wait a minute, guys. When I had your guy on, David Weiss, you were cheering and applauding me. But now, I want to say you're going to crucify me just because I had a person from the other side, Will Duffy. But this is not the way it works, guys. I am not dependent on anyone or anything. I am an independent podcaster.

[00:06:28]So I am willing to help one side and another side. I'm willing to talk to anybody.

[00:06:36]So that is the reason why Will Duffy is on my show. Did I fact check him? Of course I did. Did I argue with him? Of course I did. I treated him the way I treated Flat Earth Dave. And if you're mad about it, the problem is not within me. It's in within you. Why? Because you just want a biased information and you do not want to get to the truth. Now, for anyone who wants to get true, I I applaud you. Thank you for coming to my show. Thank you for subscribing to my channel. Thank you for supporting me all the way. I really really thank you from the bottom of my heart. Especially I thank my sponsors and my supporters that helped me stay independent and have both sides on my podcast. The last 30 days were pretty difficult to me. Why?

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[00:08:56]So guys, if you enjoy my show, if you enjoy the information that I provide you with the help of my different guests, please scan this QR code or find the link in the description below and just buy me a coffee. And now without any further ado, let's get back to the podcast with the one and only Will Duffy. Do you think we went to the moon?

[00:09:19]>> Definitely.

[00:09:19]>> Okay. Interesting. Do you think we the Earth is the center or the sun is the center?

[00:09:25]>> I don't know. I haven't looked into it.

[00:09:27]To me, that doesn't seem like a big deal. In the big scheme of things, when we look at how big the universe is, the sun and the earth are so close to each other, it's so minute.

[00:09:36]>> Yeah. But we're moving uh or the sun is moving.

[00:09:40]>> Well, the sun technically rotates, but we're moving around the sun.

[00:09:44]>> We're moving around the sun. Okay. What about the Bible? You're a pastor.

[00:09:47]>> Yes.

[00:09:48]>> What about the verses in the Bible that say that we're stationary?

[00:09:51]>> So, there actually aren't any verses that say that we are stationary.

[00:09:54]>> There are. So, I did a little uh homework and um >> 1 Corinthians 16:30 >> uh 1 Cor Chronicles 16:30, the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved.

[00:10:09]Psalm 93:1, the world is established, firm, and secure.

[00:10:12]>> Psalm 1045 >> uh 96:10, the world is firmly established, it cannot be moved. Psalm 104-5, he said the earth is on its foundation. It cannot be moved.

[00:10:23]>> Yes. So if you look carefully at these verses, it's saying that the earth shall not be moved or can't be moved. It's not saying the earth doesn't move. There's a big difference, right?

[00:10:34]>> You mean not move from the its orbit.

[00:10:36]>> Correct. You and I cannot move the earth. What God has set into place, we can't change. We can't change that.

[00:10:43]That's what it's referring to.

[00:10:44]>> Okay. What about Genesis uh 16? God made the vault or the firminant separating waters from above from waters from the below.

[00:10:53]>> Yes. Um I had a an interview on the final experiments YouTube channel with someone who lives in Jerusalem who's a Hebrew expert. He's a Jew. And he explained to me that the Hebrew word there raia, which is translated as expanse or firmament, is referring to the expanse of the sky, not some sort of a dome, which is what flat-earthers try to tell us.

[00:11:15]>> What does it mean expanse? What does it mean? the expanse like when you look out like where the stars are, where the sun is, the moon, the planets, etc. >> Okay, let's let's stick to the Bible.

[00:11:25]What do you think is the age of the earth? How old is the earth?

[00:11:29]>> It's a really good question. My current position is that the earth is young. Uh so let's say 10,000 years or less. Uh a lot of people are really challenging me on that right now. And I admit to them that I'm not that uh educated on the topic. I'm not a geologist. I'm not a scientist. And so I'm open to being wrong about that. There are Christians who are what's known as old earth creationists. To me, it's not that big of a deal what the age of the earth is.

[00:11:57]I'm more important. I think it's more important to help people see that there is a God and that he did create this universe regardless of the age.

[00:12:03]>> Okay. So the Christian that say that the earth is old, they say that the first six days are not literally days, right?

[00:12:10]It's periods of time.

[00:12:12]>> Yes.

[00:12:12]>> Okay. So science says that the earth is I want to say 13.3 billion years old.

[00:12:18]>> That would be the universe. The universe.

[00:12:20]>> Yeah. The earth they would say is around probably 4.5 billion.

[00:12:23]>> I am not a scientist. Right. But how can they tell us it's 13.3 not 13.2 or 13.4 because.1 is.1 of a billion years. Yes.

[00:12:35]>> And we live for only a century let's say as a human. I I struggle to comprehend 10,000 years, let alone millions or billions of years. And so I do think that the stance that they take stating it's an exact number going that far back is very difficult to do. There's something inherent about the past, which is that it's it's impossible to know exactly what happened in the past. The thing I love about this debate over globe and flat earth is it's something that exists in the present. We can observe it and measure it today.

[00:13:05]>> Okay. How do what do you think is the size of the sun? Is it that big as scientists say or you think it's much smaller?

[00:13:12]>> I have no reason to doubt that that it's as big as the scientists say.

[00:13:16]>> You don't think it's local?

[00:13:17]>> No, it's definitely not local.

[00:13:19]>> It's 93.5 million miles away.

[00:13:22]>> Yeah, that sounds right.

[00:13:23]>> Not 93.6, not 93.4, right?

[00:13:26]>> Yeah. Yeah. Let's just say 93 and call it a day.

[00:13:30]>> How do they know what's the temperature of the sun? I don't know if they know what the temperature of the sun is.

[00:13:36]>> They do.

[00:13:37]>> Well, they could be wrong on that, right? If they're wrong on that, this is the important piece. That doesn't change the fact that I know and can demonstrate today for everybody that we live on a globe.

[00:13:48]>> Okay, let's stick then to the globe.

[00:13:50]Science knows what's inside what's in the center of the earth, right?

[00:13:55]>> They make claims. They They make claims.

[00:13:58]>> Yeah. But then, but they claim it like they know it.

[00:14:01]>> Sure. But how can they know what's inside and not only that but what's the temperature of the core of the earth?

[00:14:08]>> Yeah, people have a tendency to want to figure things out to be the ones that figure it out and to just be dogmatic and certain about everything. I'm not here to say that science has everything right. Clearly they don't. Science fortunately admits that they can't prove things. They put out hypotheses and they test them and they try to falsify them.

[00:14:29]And if they survive tests, it becomes stronger and stronger as a theory. But science isn't going to come out and say, "We know this for a fact." They speak like that at times. The men do, but science itself is not doing that. And I appreciate that about the scientific method. Where I push back is people think science is the only way or the best way to discover truth. And that's just not the case.

[00:14:52]>> Science is not the best way to find the truth.

[00:14:56]>> Yeah, definitely not. There there there are so many ways at discovering truth.

[00:15:01]We can't say science is the only way or science is the best way and eliminate everything else. And a lot of people in the scientific realm think that.

[00:15:10]>> Okay.

[00:15:12]Please continue.

[00:15:12]>> Okay. So I want to talk about flat earth day for a second. All right. So this is important.

[00:15:17]>> You never met the guy personally or did you?

[00:15:20]>> I have shake I I shook his hand.

[00:15:22]>> Okay.

[00:15:22]>> So I shook his hand. That that's an important thing.

[00:15:24]>> Did you wash your hand then?

[00:15:26]>> No.

[00:15:26]>> No. Not yet.

[00:15:27]>> No. No.

[00:15:27]>> Still, >> I've washed my hands since. Not because I shook his hand. So, >> no. I mean, that's a hero of yours. You shouldn't wash your hands.

[00:15:35]>> Oh, okay. Uh, so I went to Nashville, Tennessee for a debate, a flat earth debate between Dean Odel and Greg Lockach. And that's where I met Flat Earth Dave. Now, this is important. I'm going to let I'm going to let you and your audience in on the biggest secret of flat earth.

[00:15:54]>> Okay?

[00:15:54]>> You ready for this?

[00:15:55]>> Yes.

[00:15:56]They don't have any evidence for a flat earth. Okay, >> they say they say the same thing about globers.

[00:16:03]>> This is important because all you have to do is listen to them speak. They don't have any evidence for a flat earth. All they do is they try to put poke holes in the globe uh show you doubts about the globe and then they just assume and want you to assume that the earth is flat. If you ask them to make a case that the earth is flat based on evidence without mentioning the globe, they cannot do it. So I just want people to think about that going forward when you listen to them speak.

[00:16:30]>> But it's actually not true because let's say even on our episode Dave showed me this experiment with the light with he did at home then with the sunlight with the drone with the perspective and how the sun is not uh it's not it's just going away from us. It's not going under the curve.

[00:16:47]>> Okay. So that doesn't tell us that the earth is flat, right? Hypothetically speaking, we could be on a cube and that would do what what he's what he's saying it it could do. Okay. All right.

[00:16:57]>> Now, this is important as well. He opened up his conversation with you by saying that people want to debate him, yet they don't know the radius of the Earth. They don't know the circumference of the Earth. They don't know how far the Earth is from the Sun, how big the Sun is. He doesn't know any of that either about the Earth that he thinks is flat. He doesn't know the size. He doesn't know the radius. He doesn't know how far the sun is. He doesn't know what the size of the sun is. So I thought that was a little disingenuous of him.

[00:17:22]>> But he doesn't claim that he does know.

[00:17:26]He just says just like I am saying I believe it's the sun is definitely not night not 93.5 million miles away from us.

[00:17:34]>> Yes.

[00:17:34]>> Because they can't measure it.

[00:17:36]>> Yes. What what's important is I think he should admit that he's coming down on people who believe in the globe for not knowing those things.

[00:17:42]>> Okay. I got >> it.

[00:17:43]>> And then he doesn't know those either.

[00:17:44]All right. Now, his first argument that he me that he used was that there's an old encyclopedia that says there's a domed ceiling 13,000 ft high at 80° south.

[00:17:56]>> Okay.

[00:17:57]>> Number one, the encyclopedia never says the word dome. Okay, that's no, sorry, never says the word ceiling. It calls it a dome. It doesn't say ceiling. Second, just process that for a second and it makes no sense whatsoever. 13,000 ft.

[00:18:12]What what do we know exists higher than 13,000 feet? Clouds, mountains, right? They're called 14ers.

[00:18:20]I live in Colorado. We have almost as many 14ers as every other state combined.

[00:18:25]>> Mountains are higher than than 13,000 ft. Airplanes fly higher than 13,000 ft.

[00:18:29]It doesn't make any sense. Fortunately, you used claude to ask what was going on and it it explained that that was talking about a mountain. So in glaciology they use the word dome to talk about an ice covered mountain. By the way, Mount Vincent, which is Antarctica's highest mountain, is 16,000 ft. So the first thing he said was just not true. Then >> but even if it if if that peak is uh on the outskirts of the flat earth, it means the dome or the wall the firminant is going and is significantly lower at the edge, right? Because the dome is not like a cube.

[00:19:09]>> Well, this is where this is where like >> this, right?

[00:19:12]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:19:14]>> This is where he talks uh kind of out of both sides of his mouth, right? Because he also showed on your program this map with all these extra lands.

[00:19:22]>> Yeah. And I called it >> Okay, good.

[00:19:24]>> Because they you if you don't know, how can you name a land that you don't even know that exists? That's that's >> And if there's a dome coming down in Antarctica, then how is there other land on the other side of it? the the encyclopedia. All you have to do is do a little research and figure out what they were talking about. And they were talking about a mountain. They weren't talking about a glass dome or something like that. Now, the next thing he said is that NASA doesn't use the word photo.

[00:19:52]It's completely false.

[00:19:55]>> Are there any photos of the Earth from NASA?

[00:20:00]>> Abs. Absolutely there are. Yeah. And they are photos taken like with a let's say with an excuse me with a uh >> camera >> with a camera or with an iPhone.

[00:20:10]>> Yeah, definitely. Well, not an iPhone. I mean, we're going back to the the 60s and 70s here. So, I'm going to send you an email right now.

[00:20:17]>> Please do.

[00:20:18]>> Uh so that you can put these pictures up.

[00:20:21]>> Okay, let's start with this one.

[00:20:22]>> Uh number one. So, this first picture here is NASA's website right now.

[00:20:29]There's an astronaut on the moon and it says, "Flicker Commons has more than 3,000 photos from NASA's history. All photographs on the NASA Commons Flickr account originate from the compilation of photos from NASA's image and video library and other archive sources." So, when he said NASA won't use the word photo, that's just not true. If you go to this, if you go to number two, this is uh where NASA keeps I think all of their photos. And it says right here, gateway to astronaut photography of Earth. And if you go to number three, I highlight there how many times they use the word photo or photography. And it's 15 times on this page. So he makes these statements that if you don't go check sound true and sound believable, but they're not.

[00:21:17]>> Okay. Let's take that famous picture called Blue Marble.

[00:21:21]>> Yes.

[00:21:21]>> It's a compilation of pictures, isn't it?

[00:21:23]>> No, it is not.

[00:21:24]>> It's a still picture. It's a single photo.

[00:21:28]>> Okay. What about the example that he showed uh different pictures of Earth with the same clouds?

[00:21:35]>> Okay, that that's an important one and and that comes from someone named Robert Simmon. So, this is now way later than the Blue Marble, which was I believe 1972, >> right?

[00:21:46]>> Um we have the ISS, okay, the International Space Station. It is not that high. It's in what's called low Earth orbit. Okay. the Earth is really big. Well, we have new pictures of the Earth, but it's from really close to the surface, so you can't see it all.

[00:22:04]>> So, a guy named Robert Simmon, who worked for NASA, had to take all of those pictures and put them together and make a composite image to give us a quote unquote new blue marble.

[00:22:14]>> Okay, >> they admitted that they did that. He admitted that he used Adobe Photoshop's cloning tool to duplicate the clouds because he had to.

[00:22:24]>> Yes.

[00:22:25]>> But the this is the important one. The blue marble photo is a single photo.

[00:22:29]>> Okay. What about the the examples that he showed Dave showed on the show multiple different pictures of the earth using the same clouds. Why there are the same clouds? Like copy and paste. So, I I've looked at those things that the those memes and things that the flatearthers have shared, and I can't find those pictures on NASA's website, for example.

[00:22:50]>> Okay.

[00:22:50]>> So, I think that th those aren't even real.

[00:22:53]>> Okay. I just Google Earth, and this is what it shows.

[00:22:58]>> So, it's this color or this color >> or this color?

[00:23:03]>> Uhhuh.

[00:23:04]>> So, what what are the colors of the Earth? They use different lenses. They use filters. Why would they? or this is the colors of the earth.

[00:23:10]>> So, it's a really good question. Color is an interesting one. I'm not a photographer, but any photographer can tell you and a and a someone who makes movies that color correcting is something that you do. The famous blue marble picture is has been color corrected if you >> Why would you >> make it look prettier?

[00:23:29]>> I think we're about to get the to the truth, not to to be pretty or not.

[00:23:34]>> No, hold on. Hold on. My daughter edits her pictures of herself. That's her pictures that were supposed to go to Instagram.

[00:23:41]>> Okay, hold on. Hold on. The original blue marble is available. No one's hiding it, but I'm just telling you that it's been color corrected.

[00:23:48]>> The one that's very famous, and that's not a big deal.

[00:23:51]>> Okay. But one is blue right here.

[00:23:54]>> Uhhuh.

[00:23:54]>> Bluey, more colorful.

[00:23:58]>> Uh-huh.

[00:24:01]>> We're We're making a big deal out of nothing right now.

[00:24:04]>> No, no, no.

[00:24:04]>> No, we definitely are. No, we're not because the colors differ. It It seems like they're just doing this, let's say, with quoteunquote quoteunquote AI and they get the each time they get different results and it's like that's why the earth looks way different to each other.

[00:24:18]>> The pictures the pictures in the 70s were taken on film. They had to be developed. The original film is still available. The original photos are still available. So all of that has never been refuted by the flat earth community. We can claim that these are fake or something, but there's no evidence of that. That's just a baseless claim. When you take different pictures at different times of the day. Are you familiar with magic hour? All photographers know what magic hour is. It changes the color of things. Exposure and how long exposure happens changes the color of things.

[00:24:50]>> Yeah, but there there can't be magic hour when you take a picture of the Earth.

[00:24:54]>> That's actually not true. So just recently with the Aremis 2 mission, there was a there was a picture taken and uh it was I believe on the dark side of the Earth. And so if you want to get something darker, you increase the exposure. You you take longer for the for the light and the photons to get into what you're taking a picture of.

[00:25:16]That changes things. So there's two pictures, one the Earth looks dark, one it looks light, that were taken 18 seconds apart. That's just because of exposure. They they they expose the second one longer to get more light coming from the dark side of the earth.

[00:25:29]>> Okay.

[00:25:30]>> Okay.

[00:25:30]>> Please continue.

[00:25:31]>> All right. Let's talk about flights and I'm going to send you another email right now. All right. I took a screenshot from your discussion with Flat Earth Dave. It includes the timestamp and it also includes the transcript. I don't want anybody telling me that I've taken him out of context.

[00:25:48]>> Okay, that's awesome.

[00:25:49]>> So, he showed a picture of this flight from New Zealand to Argentina. Mhm.

[00:25:53]>> And he says over on the right hand side from New Zealand to Argentina, that would be the shortest route, but it goes all the way up across the equator to San Francisco, then to Houston, Texas, and then all the way back down. Why would they do that? Well, look at the flat Earth map. It's a perfectly straight line.

[00:26:07]>> Mhm.

[00:26:08]>> This is not a real flight. What he said is 100% false. Go look. This flight doesn't exist.

[00:26:14]>> Okay. But the flight for Argentina's uh soccer team does exist. And I did a fact checked on the show and it existed. So they went from Qatar, they were going to Argentina, but they stopped in Rome.

[00:26:28]>> Mhm.

[00:26:28]>> Why?

[00:26:29]>> Okay. So let's talk about that separately if you don't mind.

[00:26:33]>> Please.

[00:26:33]>> Okay. So this is important. He's making a claim that because he believes the earth is flat and he's showing his map here. He's showing that this is why the flight does this. Okay. So this this flight doesn't even exist. There isn't a flight that goes from New Zealand to San Francisco to Houston back to Argentina.

[00:26:50]Okay? That's number one. Number two, uh, the flight from New Zealand to Argentina just goes straight across the ocean.

[00:26:57]It's a non-stop flight.

[00:27:00]>> Okay. Okay. So, on this one, he might be right. He might be wrong.

[00:27:04]>> Well, it's it's way more important than this. And here's why. Uh, the reason this is so important is because the flight is not possible on a flat Earth.

[00:27:14]It's not possible. You can't go, if you look at his map there in the picture, >> Mhm.

[00:27:20]You can't go that distance, right?

[00:27:22]>> You mean it's too far?

[00:27:23]>> Of course. No, no plane. No, there's no there's not a plane in existence that could do this. That could do this non-stop. So, do you see the United States there? It's green.

[00:27:32]>> Mhm.

[00:27:33]>> Going across the United States is what?

[00:27:35]5 and a half hours.

[00:27:36]>> Right.

[00:27:37]>> Okay.

[00:27:37]>> From Miami to, let's say, LA.

[00:27:39]>> Yeah. So, look at how long that is. This is This is like a 30-hour flight.

[00:27:45]>> One, two, three, four.

[00:27:48]Yeah. minimum.

[00:27:49]>> Yeah. And and no, no planes can do that.

[00:27:51]So, what he's claiming is is that you can't go from New Zealand to Argentina non-stop, which is why it goes through the United States. It's not true.

[00:28:00]>> So, I just sent you another email, which is uh China Eastern. You can buy the tickets right now for a non-stop flight between Auckland, New Zealand, and Buenosares, Argentina.

[00:28:13]And here's what I'm going to do.

[00:28:16]I'm gonna make an offer right now to Flat Earth Dave and you. I'm going to pay for the three of us to go take this flight. I don't know about you, New Zealand's on my bucket list. I've never been.

[00:28:27]>> Okay. The Hobbit, Lord of the Rings.

[00:28:30]>> Yeah. Beautiful, right? Beautiful country. Now, I don't think he's going to agree to it.

[00:28:36]>> By the way, let me ask you a question.

[00:28:37]Do you think I believe in flat earth or I believe in a globe?

[00:28:40]>> I don't know. I just heard your show with Dave with Dave. Okay.

[00:28:45]>> So, I don't know.

[00:28:46]>> But I I I'll pay for all three of us to go take this non-stop flight that he says doesn't exist.

[00:28:53]>> Dave, let's go to New Zealand. It's it's an amazing country.

[00:28:56]>> Okay.

[00:28:56]>> Kiwis.

[00:28:57]>> Yes. Absolutely. So, that's on the table. Let's see. Let's see what he Let's see what he says. Now, this is important is because the actual flight uh makes sense on a globe. It goes to the south and it's about a 14-hour flight, which is doable. Mhm.

[00:29:14]>> So, this is important because he shows these slides and they're just not true.

[00:29:18]All right. Now, let me send you one more email, >> okay? And then we're going to get back to that flight of Argentina's national team. Okay.

[00:29:25]>> Okay. Sounds good.

[00:29:28]Which I know nothing about, by the way, but that's okay. All right. I just sent you one more email. So, you you guys actually didn't have a chance to talk about this particular flight. uh your conversation got derailed, which is fine, but there was enough of for him to send you the the picture and you put it up for a few seconds.

[00:29:48]>> Okay.

[00:29:48]>> So, go ahead and open that up.

[00:29:50]>> So, he was about to say before the conversation got derailed that the flight from Sydney to Santiago stops in Texas.

[00:30:00]>> Now, again, do you see how far that flight would be? It's insane, right? You you could never do that non-stop. Now, >> it's almost the entire Earth. It's almost the entire Earth.

[00:30:08]>> Okay.

[00:30:09]>> Now, flat Earth Dave knows I I I know this. He knows that the flight between Sydney and Santiago is a non-stop flight. And here's how he knows. When we went to Antarctica for the final experiment, one of the people on the globe side was a YouTuber named Critical Think, who lives in Australia. He took the flight from Sydney to Santiago non-stop.

[00:30:30]And it doesn't go across the United States. It actually sometimes goes over a part a little part of Antarctica. It goes to the south. A flat-earther actually bet critical think that he couldn't live stream in Santiago and then 13 to 14 hours later live stream in Sydney and he did it and he lost the flat earther lost the bet and I believe he even paid up.

[00:30:52]>> He streamed for 13 hours non-stop.

[00:30:55]>> No stream live stream from the Santiago airport and then 13 to 14 hours later live stream from the Sydney airport.

[00:31:02]>> Okay. It's impossible because of the >> Yes.

[00:31:05]>> Okay. Okay.

[00:31:06]>> So, so Dave was going to argue here that there's no non-stop flight between Sydney and Santiago. That's also not true. And by the way, Critical Think also filmed the entire flight out the window. All all 13 to 14 hours of it.

[00:31:20]>> But so it's it's just important.

[00:31:24]>> Okay. But yeah, but there's no other way he he can get from uh Sydney to Santiago in 13 hours.

[00:31:30]>> That's exactly right. Yes.

[00:31:32]>> He owns a teleporter. What?

[00:31:33]>> Yeah. So, here's what I want people to understand, and this is the most important piece. Flights are something that we all experience. Almost all of us take flights, right? You you've had to fly to the United States. Um, there's a 100,000 commercial flights every single day, and they're they're all available to all of us. We can just go pay the money and and it's relatively inexpensive, especially if you're trying to prove a vast conspiracy. Flatearthers cannot explain how flight paths are created. They cannot. I've asked them.

[00:32:05]I've asked dozens of them. They have no idea how flight paths are created. When someone, whether it's a commercial airline or even just a private pilot, wants to get from one location to the other. They have to have a way of knowing which way to go, how much fuel they're going to need, and how much time it's going to take. It is all created on a globe. It's known as a great circle route. And the easiest way to teach this, so I teach this to my children. I think you should teach it to your kids, too. Here's how here's how you do it.

[00:32:33]You put you just take a piece of string like this. Okay? You put it on the globe. You put one side on the city that you're leaving, departing from, one side on the city that you're going to, and you pull it taut. That is the flight path. That is the great circle route right there. And every single flight that happens takes that great circle route.

[00:32:53]>> Okay? So, please do right now. Sure.

[00:32:55]Qatar to Argentina. Let's say Buenosiris.

[00:32:58]>> Okay.

[00:33:00]Okay. So, Qatar right here. Saudi Arabia.

[00:33:06]>> National soccer.

[00:33:07]>> I'm glad you picked one. That's really good.

[00:33:10]>> From Qatar to Argentina and stopped in.

[00:33:16]>> There is the flight path right there.

[00:33:18]>> Okay. I'm just going to double check with Claude whether it's true or not.

[00:33:21]>> Okay, great. So I asked whether Argentina's national soccer team went from Qatar to Argentina and stopped in Rome. Yes.

[00:33:28]>> Yes. Confirmed. Argentina landed at Rome's airport for less than 1 hour after leaving Qatar, then resumed their trip to Buenosirus.

[00:33:36]>> Great.

[00:33:36]>> Why?

[00:33:37]>> I have no idea. So, let me tell you this. This is important. There are flights that are not non-stop that go to other cities. And that's economics. I >> agree. Yes.

[00:33:49]>> That that even happens in the United States. Sometimes I can't get directly to a city. They're trying to fill planes.

[00:33:54]>> Brother will Argentina's national soccer team that just won FIFA World Cup. Messi on board. That's worth a gazillion of dollars.

[00:34:03]>> Yes, >> they do fly fly private.

[00:34:06]>> Okay, great. So, I have no idea why they went to Rome. Has anybody ask them? See, that's the thing. Flat-earthers don't like to ask people questions. They like to make assumptions. So, let's ask the team why they did it. And I bet they have a good answer. We can even ask Claude.

[00:34:22]>> It doesn't have an answer.

[00:34:23]>> Okay.

[00:34:23]>> They landed for less than less than one hour after leaving Qatar then resumed their trip to Buenosirus 14.

[00:34:30]>> Let me just throw out some hypothetical reasons.

[00:34:32]>> Yeah. But Qatar, Argentina, Rome, they had to go from Qatar to Argentina over Africa.

[00:34:40]>> They could have stopped in any country in Africa. And not all Africa is bad.

[00:34:45]>> We're making assumptions, right? What if they they have they have money, right?

[00:34:49]What if what if they need to pick somebody up in Rome?

[00:34:52]>> We're just making assumptions. We can't base our view on the shape of the earth based on things that wealthy people do.

[00:34:59]>> I'm not. It's just very, very odd that they would go right here.

[00:35:04]>> It might be odd, but it might not. We just simply need to ask why did you guys do this? What I'm trying to say is that flights, >> shall we call messy?

[00:35:13]>> Yes. You never I wish we could. What I'm trying to say is that flights only work on a globe and they don't work on a flat earth. And I can teach people in five minutes how to create flight paths on a globe. And I again, I don't think a single flat earther can explain to you how flight paths are created.

[00:35:30]>> Okay?

[00:35:31]>> They can't do it.

[00:35:32]>> Globe, let's say we're flying from Paris to LA.

[00:35:37]>> Mhm.

[00:35:38]>> Direct flight. Mhm.

[00:35:39]>> If the earth is round, it means the the the plane has to eventually if if if that's not flat, >> yes, >> it's it's going to go straight from Paris to LA. But if it's curved, it means the plane the pilot has to adjust the plane. Is that correct?

[00:35:56]>> That is not correct.

[00:35:57]>> Why not?

[00:35:57]>> That's a flat earth myth.

[00:35:59]>> Yes. So, >> when you take a flight next time, I want you to notice something, which is that this is known as the attitude of a plane. It's gonna be nose up a little bit even while you're flying. So as it as it ascends you feel a ve a very extreme nose up but the entire flight it's nose up. Even on the descent it's nose up.

[00:36:19]>> Right. Correct.

[00:36:20]>> So there is no correcting needed for to for for a flight. That's just a myth.

[00:36:26]>> You would just you would have just left the earth the orbit.

[00:36:29]>> You would not leave the earth.

[00:36:30]>> Why not?

[00:36:31]>> Why not? Okay. So let me try to explain it to you this way. Do you have a drone by chance >> right now? I don't know. But I did own >> Okay. So, I I've got a DJI drone, right?

[00:36:41]If you want to go higher, what do you have to do? You have to you have to increase the speed of the propellers, right? Because you're because you're going against gravity. So, if you keep the propellers at the same speed and go and just start flying, it's not going to increase in elevation. Now, obviously there's battery limits and things like that, but theoretically it would go all the way around the Earth and back to you at the exact same elevation because of the speed of the propellers.

[00:37:13]>> Okay, let's say we get on a helicopter, right? We go, let's say we go 1,000 ft.

[00:37:21]>> Mhm.

[00:37:22]>> And we stay there for 12 hours.

[00:37:24]>> Sure.

[00:37:25]>> Would we land at the same spot?

[00:37:27]>> Absolutely you would.

[00:37:28]>> Why? Because the gravity will get us in a helicopter that high.

[00:37:34]>> No.

[00:37:34]>> With the earth.

[00:37:35]>> No. Spin it.

[00:37:36]>> So kind of the earth is spinning which means we are spinning as well. That's the that's the piece that flat earthers miss. So whatever rate the earth is spinning at, we are spinning at that rate as well. So here's the best way I can explain this to you. Have you ever been in the back of a pickup truck on the highway?

[00:37:54]>> Mhm.

[00:37:54]>> Okay. It's fun, right?

[00:37:55]>> No. You're moving at the same speed as the truck.

[00:37:59]>> Correct?

[00:37:59]>> So if you jump up, you don't fly out the back because you're still moving at the speed of the truck when you jump up. So you land in the exact same spot. Now with the truck analogy, there's wind resistance. So if you were able to jump high enough, which would be crazy high, the wind resistance would start to slow you down. But you can jump up and down in the back of a moving truck, no problem. You're not going to go anywhere. It's just conservation of momentum. There's a video online. It depends how high how high I will jump in being in that trampoline.

[00:38:27]>> Yes. But there but there's a video online. I believe it's a Red Bull ad where a guy is on a train and he's jumping on a trampoline super high and he lands on the trampoline and it's a moving train.

[00:38:38]>> The same spot.

[00:38:40]>> Yes. Same spot. So you're moving at the same speed as whatever you're in. So we're moving at the same speed of the earth. So when the helicopter goes up it >> and it stays. The train moves forward, but the helicopter it just stays.

[00:38:54]>> Yes. But the helicopter is is already moving. It's moving while it's on the ground. Does that make sense?

[00:39:00]>> Because we're moving with the Earth.

[00:39:02]>> Yes.

[00:39:02]>> Because of the gravity.

[00:39:04]>> Yes. It's because of the rotation of the Earth. Now, when the helicopter goes up, there is nothing to slow it down. It's still moving with the rotation of the Earth at the same exact speed as the Earth. So you would never expect the earth to rotate underneath it. That's false.

[00:39:22]>> Okay. At what at what uh height do planes uh fly? 10,000 ft.

[00:39:29]>> Much higher.

[00:39:30]>> 13 30,000 ft.

[00:39:32]>> 40,000 even.

[00:39:33]>> Okay. So for at 40,000 ft, the distance from LA to New York is going to be one.

[00:39:40]>> At 80,000 ft, if it's a globe, it's going to be way bigger distance to fly.

[00:39:45]Right.

[00:39:46]>> Yeah. They they don't fly that high.

[00:39:47]>> But is that true? If we double the >> it's it's it's microscopic difference what you're talking about. 40,000 ft versus 30,000 ft on a globe that's this size is almost nothing.

[00:40:00]>> 30 to 300.

[00:40:02]>> Sure.

[00:40:03]>> That would be a huge difference.

[00:40:04]>> Yes. But there would also be less wind resistance.

[00:40:07]>> Yeah. Yeah. But the distance would be bigger.

[00:40:09]>> Yes, it would. Because if we were on a truck, if we're on a uh track, we're moving towards the center. It's much shorter distance than we're going to the outside, right?

[00:40:19]>> Yes. All of this is accounted for, by the way, in flight dynamics. So, there there's a there's a there's a an elevation for the plane that's going to make the most sense for fuel efficiency.

[00:40:31]And that is because again, as you're saying, the higher you go, you do increase the distance, but the wind resistance gets less.

[00:40:39]>> Yeah. Yeah. But I only care about the distance. If the distance gets >> sure >> bigger, it means okay, we're on the globe.

[00:40:45]>> Yep.

[00:40:45]>> Quote unquote. Okay.

[00:40:46]>> Now, flights from east to west take longer than they do from west to east >> because of the spin.

[00:40:55]>> Be yes. The spin creates jet streams.

[00:40:58]The jet streams only go in one direction, which is west to east.

[00:41:01]Flat-earthers have no answer for that.

[00:41:03]That that doesn't make sense on their model. Why would you only have jet streams going in one one direction? It's because of the spin of the earth.

[00:41:11]>> Okay. Please continue.

[00:41:12]>> Okay. All right. Um I have a list here that I that I made for people which is important and it's a list of 10 things that you can experience that we all experience in our own lives. So we're not taking anybody's word for it. Uh that prove to us that we live on a globe and that the earth cannot be flat. And these are things that we should all be teaching our kids. So, the first one we already talked about, which is flight paths. And again, I want you to read the comments on this video. No flat-earther is going to offer an explanation as to how flight paths are created. They just don't have one.

[00:41:49]>> By the way, I would say there is the flat earth is a cult just like the globe is a cult as well.

[00:41:57]>> Okay? because the amount of negative comments that I have have experienced under the Dave's episode, I was astonished and I believe the same is going to happen but from the elder camp under this video.

[00:42:08]>> You're probably right and I am with you.

[00:42:10]I don't like it.

[00:42:11]>> It's a cult.

[00:42:12]>> Yeah, I don't like it.

[00:42:13]>> Okay.

[00:42:14]>> All right. Number two. This is called global symmetry. This one I love. A globe is symmetrical in the northern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere.

[00:42:24]That is not true of a flat earth. So I carry this around with me. It's easy to to take with me. And this is the flat earth map, right? There is not symmetry between the north, which is this inner circle here, and the south, which is this outer circle here. There isn't symmetry. There shouldn't be. Everything gets bigger the further you go away from the center. And everything gets smaller the closer you get to the center.

[00:42:49]>> You mean stretched?

[00:42:51]>> Well, no, just bigger. like the the the space is massive on a flat Earth because everything is getting further and further away. On a globe, everything is getting closer and closer together south of the equator.

[00:43:06]>> This little red line, which you probably can't see, is the is the equator on on a flat Earth map. Everything south of the equator is getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

[00:43:15]>> Okay. But you do realize and it it was admitted that uh the uh the earth the globe that we use we portrayed Africa much smaller than it is in the in real life >> that I'm not aware of.

[00:43:28]>> I know how is it called Africa is much bigger than we think think right it was made on purpose. Yeah that's that's not even a conspiracy theory. Well, >> there's one of the most compelling map deception arguments.

[00:43:47]>> Okay. So, maps are projections based on the globe. You cannot flatten a sphere.

[00:43:53]It's impossible.

[00:43:54]>> Yeah. But what I'm saying is that this thing is not true too because it says yes. And the numbers are staggering.

[00:44:00]Africa covers up over three 30 million square kilometers enough to fit the United States, China, India, Japan, and all Europe is one continent. This is talking about the Mercer projection.

[00:44:12]>> Yes.

[00:44:12]>> So that's a that's a projection. That's not the globe.

[00:44:16]>> So projections are maps, flat maps that are trying to make sense of something that's round. And so things get blown out of proportion. I think this globe here is very accurate.

[00:44:27]>> So it says that in Africa you should place US, China, India, Japan and all Europe. Do you think you can place on that Africa all the continents and countries uh of course I've just mentioned? No way. Look at just at the US >> uh >> US plus China plus India plus >> look how big Africa is.

[00:44:48]>> It's not it's way I would say it's much big way bigger in real life.

[00:44:52]>> I think if you ask Claude if a globe fixes this problem it will say yes. Does the globe model fi fix fixes this problem in Africa?

[00:45:09]Because I used to think that a quer is something at the north of Africa which is not true. Say a physical globe.

[00:45:17]>> What about phys physical globe?

[00:45:29]The physical world does represent Africa accurately in 3D. No distortion.

[00:45:33]>> Yes, this is a 3D globe. So, it's correct.

[00:45:39]>> Can I?

[00:45:39]>> Yeah.

[00:45:44]So the United States plus India let's say this part plus China plus whole Europe guys you do you do your side if you have a globe try putting Africa the US India China and the whole Europe please continue >> let's talk about global symmetry if we live on a globe there would be north and south symmetry and there is so for example We have uh a north pole and a south pole. Dave Weiss says there is no south pole. He's wrong. Okay, there is a south pole. I'll prove that in a second.

[00:46:23]We have a 24-hour sun in the Arctic. We have a 24-hour sun in the Antarctic. We have a north celestial pole. We have a south celestial pole. We have an Arctic circle and an Antarctic circle. And flight times are symmetrical in the north and the south.

[00:46:39]Okay. If we live on the globe, it means we're spinning at the at what speed at the equator?

[00:46:45]>> Around 1,000 miles an hour.

[00:46:46]>> It means if we go north or south, we're going to spin way faster. Is that correct?

[00:46:52]>> No.

[00:46:53]>> Why not?

[00:46:54]>> Um why would it?

[00:46:56]>> Because they say that the the way we spin on Earth on the equator is this number.

[00:47:04]>> Mhm. It says specifically on the equator because this is the widest part part of the earth. So if you're going to spin this, let's >> can I >> So if we place a person right here and we spin, it's going to take him all this way to get to this the same point, right?

[00:47:24]>> Yes.

[00:47:25]>> But if we put someone over here, let's say in north Russia, it's going to take him way shorter distance to travel.

[00:47:33]>> Mhm. Because spin the way a person spins here and here >> differs.

[00:47:40]>> It really doesn't. So let me explain. Do do you remember merrygorounds?

[00:47:45]>> Uh you mean u traveling around the world? Well, >> no.

[00:47:49]>> No. What?

[00:47:50]>> Can you Google it?

[00:47:51]>> Merry round?

[00:47:52]>> Yeah.

[00:47:52]>> Yes, I can.

[00:47:54]>> Or uh yeah, just a merrygoround.

[00:47:56]>> Mary goround. Okay. Oh, okay. Okay.

[00:47:58]>> Remember those toys in the in the old uh thing?

[00:48:01]>> That's a great example. Yes.

[00:48:02]>> Yes. So the people on the outside are not really moving faster than the people on the inside.

[00:48:08]>> But on the center, I'm just going like a ballerina.

[00:48:10]>> Yes, that's correct.

[00:48:12]>> So that's what I was saying.

[00:48:13]>> Okay.

[00:48:13]>> So is that true?

[00:48:15]>> Sure.

[00:48:15]>> Okay.

[00:48:16]>> Yeah. But that it's not something that we can feel, right? We feel we feel acceleration.

[00:48:22]You don't feel speed. That's something a lot of people don't understand.

[00:48:25]>> Yes. You feel yourself going into the seat on a plane as it's taking off. But as cruising at the fastest speed, you know, 5 600 mph or whatever, you don't feel that.

[00:48:35]>> Correct.

[00:48:36]>> Okay. Now, this is important. We have actual symmetry on the Earth. North south symmetry. Now, Dave Weiss just denies that there's a South Pole. You can't do that. Of course, there's a South Pole. And here's something else that's interesting.

[00:48:52]>> How can you prove that that there is a South Pole? Well, uh, a lot of ways. Um, I'm going to send you some pictures right now. Uh, number one, everyone can point to the South Pole on a globe, right? Everybody knows where they are.

[00:49:08]Give me one second. I got to pull these up and send them to you.

[00:49:12]>> Okay, >> one second.

[00:49:13]>> No one's going to prove me whether the Earth is a globe or it's flat until I see it with my own eyes because it's a belief. Just like you can tell me Jesus Christ was real, but you can't prove it.

[00:49:27]You just can't. There is this historian, this histori, but it's a belief. You believe that this person, Jesus Christ, existed, right?

[00:49:37]And I believe I choose to believe that Jesus is the Lord and Savior. The same stuff goes with everything. Let's say they they say on the news there was a stabbing, let's say, in London. I choose to believe whether it's true or not, but they haven't been there.

[00:49:50]>> Mhm.

[00:49:50]>> Right.

[00:49:51]>> Mhm. So you're not going to convince me whether it's a globe or Dave is not going to convince me is it that it's flat until I see it with my own eyes.

[00:49:58]>> Okay, that's that's >> and make assume more it's it I'm I can be more leaning more towards a globe or a flat earth.

[00:50:07]>> So that's your own personal burden of proof. You have a very high burden of proof. Okay. Now, I don't have that and I'm not saying that what you're doing is wrong, but I you probably believe New Zealand is real, but you have not seen it with your own eyes.

[00:50:22]>> Correct.

[00:50:22]>> Okay.

[00:50:23]>> So, we can do that with the Earth as well. Like, for example, I haven't been to space.

[00:50:29]>> I'm not interested in going to space. I have fears. I I won't go deep into the ocean and I won't go up into space. But I can trust other people that have been there. I can trust their pictures, their testimony, their videos, etc. >> Okay. Did you trust Did you trust scientists in 2020 during the co?

[00:50:47]>> Well, trust them about what?

[00:50:49]>> That you have to do the safe and effective jabs. One, two, three, four, five of them.

[00:50:53]>> So, no.

[00:50:55]>> Okay.

[00:50:55]>> And I'll tell you why. I I have a logical reason for that, which is I'm a health freak. Okay.

[00:51:01]>> Okay.

[00:51:02]>> I I look at whatever I put into my body.

[00:51:05]I kid you not, every single ingredient.

[00:51:06]I I don't assume that just because you can get it at a restaurant or a grocery store that you should consume it or that it's safe for you to consume.

[00:51:13]>> Agreed.

[00:51:14]>> There was no ingredients given for that vaccination. Number one, so if I don't know what's in it, I'm not going to take it. Number two, I had CO. And so from my little scientific understanding, isn't getting COVID and building the antibodies better than getting a vaccine?

[00:51:31]>> Yeah. But what I'm saying is you're choosing to believe one science scientist and not believe others.

[00:51:37]>> Well, sure. Well, I I wouldn't say I'm choosing to believe one or not the other. I'm just saying I they they maybe they were right about what they were saying, but I'm not going to put >> really in 2026 you're saying this.

[00:51:49]>> No, I'm saying I'm not going to put something in my body that I don't know what it is that I also haven't seen long-term testing done on it. But but again, everybody's free to do whatever they want with their with their own decisions.

[00:52:00]>> Okay. You do you know why you're here?

[00:52:02]Because I want to get to the truth.

[00:52:04]Okay. I'm not here to fight you.

[00:52:06]>> Yes.

[00:52:06]>> I'm not a flatearther and I'm not a glober. I just want to get the truth.

[00:52:09]>> That's why I I was having Josh Monday for four times. I was having all those pastors and uh other Christians because I want to hear the truth. I want to get to the truth.

[00:52:19]>> Absolutely. I appreciate that about you.

[00:52:21]>> Please the picture.

[00:52:22]>> All right. So Dave Weiss denies the South Pole exists, which is interesting because it does exist. He told profess professor Dave told Dave Weiss flat earth Dave that there are people who work at the South Pole and and Flat Earth Dave said prove it. It's like well no my friend works at the South Pole.

[00:52:42]This is my friend right here.

[00:52:44]>> It doesn't prove that it's a pole. It proves that this is a land >> snowy icy land.

[00:52:50]>> We we'll get there >> please.

[00:52:51]>> This is my friend. He works at the South Pole. Okay. When I told him about all this crazy people denying the South Pole, he took this picture for me. He held my name up and took it at the geographic South Pole. Now, here's what's important. Can you go to the next picture?

[00:53:06]>> Yes. I believe you're send No, two.

[00:53:09]Okay.

[00:53:11]>> Okay. Great. That's that's that's the ceremonial South Pole. There's a difference between the geographic South Pole and the ceremonial South Pole, which we don't need to talk about. It's not a big deal. I I believe I sent you one more.

[00:53:22]>> Yes.

[00:53:24]>> Okay. So that picture there is the Amenson Scott South Pole research station. That is a massive building where people are throughout the year at the South Pole. Now you you bring up an interesting point. It's just a building.

[00:53:39]Well, guess what? Ask a flatearther to show you where that building is on their map. They can't. They can't.

[00:53:46]>> Anywhere in that Arctic Circle. It can be anywhere.

[00:53:50]>> Guess what? Wherever they point, they're they're they're done. because I can prove them wrong.

[00:53:55]>> How?

[00:53:56]>> How? There are three places geographically to get to that building, to get to the South Pole. One goes through South Africa, one goes through New Zealand, and one goes through South America.

[00:54:07]>> South America. Okay.

[00:54:08]>> And they all take approximately the same amount of time, which is 6 to 8 hours >> to that place.

[00:54:12]>> Yes.

[00:54:13]>> Okay.

[00:54:13]>> So, are you seeing the problem?

[00:54:16]>> A pro problem for flat earth.

[00:54:18]>> Yes. Problem for flat earth. Now, let me also explain this which is super important. There are very famous explorers uh Robert Scott and Rowald Almanson. They both were trying to become the first men in history to reach the South Pole. They went from different places. They never crossed paths. They both made it to the South Pole. How the sun, this is very important, the sun's elevation angle, which means how high it is in the sky, does not change at the South Pole. That's what the geographic south pole is. The 24-hour sun that we talked about stays at the exact same elevation as it goes circles the horizon only at the south pole. When you go away from the south pole, you start to see the sun make a wave pattern as it goes through the sky. For example, in our video of the 24-hour sun, that's because it's not at the south pole. Now, >> how far was it from the south pole?

[00:55:14]>> We were right next to 80° south. So, not that far. miles.

[00:55:19]>> I don't know. I should know, but I don't.

[00:55:22]>> 50 100.

[00:55:23]>> No, more than that.

[00:55:24]>> More than that.

[00:55:24]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, >> but this is the center of the of the South Pole. This place.

[00:55:30]>> Yes.

[00:55:30]>> The center of the center.

[00:55:32]>> The the the gold pole that he stood at that had the sign that said geographic south pole is the geographic south pole.

[00:55:38]The center.

[00:55:39]>> Can I go there?

[00:55:40]>> Absolutely you can.

[00:55:41]>> So there it's a myth that I can't go there.

[00:55:43]>> It's a myth that you can >> because they say it's a harsh weather.

[00:55:46]>> Of course it's harsh weather. So, you got to go at the right time. So, when we were at Union Glacier Camp for the final experiment at 80° South, we met someone.

[00:55:54]Her name is Lizzy. Lizzy, if you're watching, hi. She >> if you're watching.

[00:55:59]>> Yes. She went with a friend from Union Glacier to the South Pole for lunch.

[00:56:05]They got in a plane, a little Basler, and they flew to the South Pole for lunch and spent half the day there.

[00:56:11]>> It's called Union Glacier.

[00:56:12]>> Union Glacier Camp.

[00:56:14]>> Glacier Camp.

[00:56:15]>> Union Glacier Camp. It's run by Antarctic Logistics and Expeditions.

[00:56:19]That's where we were. That's Mount Rossman. Those are the tents we stayed in.

[00:56:25]>> Okay. So th this way is what?

[00:56:28]North of this place is what? South America.

[00:56:30]>> South America.

[00:56:31]>> South America. Okay.

[00:56:33]>> So this whole idea of the South Pole not being real is false. Um and by the way, I don't have time to go into the history of this. Can you fly over, let's say, from Sydney to South America?

[00:56:46]>> You can. There's not a lot of flights that go over the South Pole, but there are flights that have gone over the South Pole, and I'll show you that in a second. Okay.

[00:56:54]>> The reason why they don't is obvious.

[00:56:57]There's not a single runway in Antarctica. There's not a single hospital. There is nowhere to make an emergency landing in Antarctica. No. the they they used to make doctors that would go to Antarctica remove their appendix because if their appendix burst they would die but then the doctor who doesn't have an appendix if someone else's appendix bursts they can operate on theirs there's nothing in Antarctica >> okay what about the treaty that almost all the countries in the world signed >> yeah it's great >> why why did they do it why not a single country claimed as it's theirs land >> they have uh they have so if you look it up there's a handful of countries that have claimed land in Antarctica but the countries that came together for the Antarctic Treaty say that those are null and void. I can tell you as someone who has been to the seventh continent who's been to Antarctica I'm glad that they have this treaty because it's the last place on earth that is essentially untouched and unrined by humans.

[00:58:02]>> Okay, >> we ruin everything. So Antarctica is a continent. It's not a country. So me going to Antarctica, I don't have to have any visa. I can go where there if I'm a citizen of Kenya or Lithuania or the US.

[00:58:15]>> Well, you could if you want. Uh >> let's say I do want >> the there are people who have done that and they quote unquote got caught and nothing happened to them.

[00:58:25]>> No. No. But when you went there, did you have to get any documents, permissions to go to Antarctica?

[00:58:31]>> We had to. Yeah. Yes, we did.

[00:58:33]>> What kind of a permission did you have to get?

[00:58:35]>> Nothing more than traveling to another country. Same same permission.

[00:58:40]>> Is there a permission as as a US citizen? You have to get to to travel, let's say, to Mexico.

[00:58:45]>> Sure. To Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

[00:58:47]>> What kind of permission?

[00:58:48]>> Well, you can't just go to Mexico without crossing either the physical border or going through customs when you land in your airplane.

[00:58:56]>> Okay. So, are there customs in Antarctica? Uh we did them in South America prior to going there uh because they wanted to make sure we had all the proper gear and that we weren't bringing, you know, bugs and and food and things like that to Antarctica. But yeah, we did. We had we went through that process.

[00:59:14]>> So a regular Joe from LA or New York can buy a ticket to the safest place in South America, get checked, and get to Antarctica.

[00:59:24]>> Of course.

[00:59:24]>> No problem.

[00:59:25]>> No problem.

[00:59:26]>> A myth, a conspiracy theory, but they can't. That's right.

[00:59:29]>> Okay.

[00:59:30]>> Yeah. Yeah. This whole idea, flatearthers started by saying you can't go to Antarctica, but then people started going. So then they said, well, you can't go, you know, past a certain latitude, but then people started going there, including us. So now they say you can't freely and independently explore Antarctica, which is not true. Can you?

[00:59:50]>> Yes, you can. Now, number one, you if by that they mean without permission, then that's silly, right? I can't go freely and privately explore your studio here without your permission, right?

[01:00:04]>> It's no man's land, Antarica.

[01:00:06]>> Yes. So, I I if if if you want if you want to ask for permission, which if they don't, they're not really searching for truth. If you just ask for permission, you can freely and independently explore Antarctica. While we were there, we spoke to AL. They had a group that wanted AL to >> it's a logistics company for people that want to go to Antarctica.

[01:00:29]They wanted trucks that can go on the ice in Antarctica and they wanted and they wanted to be able to just go freely drive around freely.

[01:00:40]>> Okay.

[01:00:41]>> And so that was allowed but AL made sure that they had the right vehicles, they had the right equipment, they had the right food, etc. So this idea that you can't independently freely and independently explore Antarctica is false.

[01:00:53]>> Okay. So you offered Dave Weiss a trip to Antarctica.

[01:00:57]>> He declined.

[01:00:58]>> He said on my show he declined because he thought that this was a setup.

[01:01:02]>> Yeah.

[01:01:03]Yeah. He was wrong. So as we've now proven, it was not a setup. So we took four flatearthers. We took four Globers and myself. So nine of us went to Antarctica.

[01:01:15]We live streamed on our journeys down there. We all came from different parts of the world. Some of us came from England. Some of us came from Australia.

[01:01:23]Some of us came from America.

[01:01:24]>> We all live streamed as we were headed to South America. We all met in South America and had dinners together and gear checks together and live streamed South America.

[01:01:34]>> Very little fighting, some arguments, but we got we got we worked through them, which was good. It's healthy for humans to do this.

[01:01:41]>> Then then we flew to Antarctica. But we recorded the flight. We live streamed from Antarctica.

[01:01:48]It was all great. It was all exactly what we were supposed to do. It wasn't a setup at all. And so, >> okay, so me being a skeptic, I can go to my home country, Lithuania, can go to, let's say, to in wintertime to a lake, abandoned lake, and I can say I'm in Antarctica, right?

[01:02:04]>> Mhm.

[01:02:04]>> Can I?

[01:02:05]>> I don't know.

[01:02:06]>> Yes, I can. Okay.

[01:02:07]>> Can I go to Minnesota winter time and say I'm in Antarctica? You can make a false claim. Yes, you can. But if you have a video of a 24-hour sun.

[01:02:15]>> Yes, >> that's it.

[01:02:16]>> Yes, that's right.

[01:02:17]>> Okay.

[01:02:18]>> And our flight. This is important. So, grabbing the globe here, the southern tip of South America, which is where we were, Punta Arenuses, Chile. You can't really go further south on land anywhere in the world. It's further south than Cape Town, South Africa. It's uh as far south. It's further south than New Zealand and Australia. You really can't go further south. We flew south from here. Confirmed. 4 and a half hours to get to Antarctica to get to Union Glacier. We filmed it all out the window. So, we we we we checked all the boxes to show that's where we were.

[01:02:58]Plus, we were at this camp where there was a ton of other people.

[01:03:01]>> Okay. So, out of those four flat earthers that came with you, all of them said, "We live on the globe."

[01:03:06]>> No. And that's okay because a change of mind takes time, right? So, one of them changed his mind while we were there. He did. He It clicked for him very quickly.

[01:03:19]We live on a globe.

[01:03:20]>> Okay.

[01:03:21]>> Another one has said, "I'm I'm no longer a flatearther." It these things take time. The important piece was all four admitted we were wrong. There is a 24-hour sun in Antarctica.

[01:03:32]>> Okay. But what happened with Dave Weiss?

[01:03:34]Why didn't he go? What do you think? Why do I think? So, I'm speculating. I don't know his heart and and I and I would hate to spread something about somebody that's not true. I personally think he didn't see a win coming out of it.

[01:03:48]Meaning, he probably knew if someone like me was willing to pay for him, there's a really good chance there is going to be a 24-hour sun and he's not going to be able to spin that. So, it's better to just not go. That's my guess.

[01:03:58]>> Okay. So, I I asked him, I said, "If you think that this was a setup, why don't you go on your own?" He said it's it takes a lot of money and he said like 10 grand.

[01:04:07]>> Mhm.

[01:04:07]>> But he earns a lot more than 10 grand.

[01:04:10]>> Yes.

[01:04:10]>> Why do you think he doesn't go on his own?

[01:04:13]>> Maybe he did. Right.

[01:04:14]>> Well, here it's interesting. The the flat earth community turned on the flatearthers that went with us. They >> That's insane. I heard that from Josh Monday because he did a podcast with someone and they turned on him too.

[01:04:27]>> Mhm.

[01:04:27]>> They said some some even said that they're going to beat him up.

[01:04:30]>> Yeah. They they >> That's insane.

[01:04:32]>> It is. It is. They turned on Austin Witet. They turned on Jiren Campanella.

[01:04:36]They turned on Lee Beth, Jonathan Morandi, all of them.

[01:04:39]>> So, it's not even Christians, Muslims, and Jews. It's like flat-earthers and blobers. This, this is the fight. This is the war.

[01:04:46]>> It's really disheartening.

[01:04:47]>> It's insane, guys.

[01:04:48]>> It is. Yeah. So, anyway, so so he should go, right?

[01:04:52]>> Right.

[01:04:53]>> There is a a Glober named Mc Tune, and he went with us on the trip. He has a standing $100,000 offer to any flatearther to go to Antarctica and show that there's not a 24-hour sun. So if they go to where we did at Union Glacier >> at the specific time.

[01:05:12]>> Yes. And and the sun sets, he'll give them $100,000. None. No one will take him up on that.

[01:05:18]>> Everyone's rich in America. Nobody wants the money.

[01:05:20]>> I guess so.

[01:05:21]>> Guys, you want $100,000? Please do.

[01:05:23]>> But again, let's not forget, I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is. So, I'll take you and Dave Weiss to New Zealand on this non-stop flight between Buenosis and Auckland, New Zealand to prove that he's wrong, that that flight is real, and and I don't think he's going to do it, but it's a standing offer.

[01:05:42]>> Do you think he's a nice guy? Because when I met him, he was a super nice.

[01:05:45]He's a fun He's smart. He's fun to be around with.

[01:05:48]>> Yes, >> he's a very nice guy.

[01:05:50]>> I think he's a very nice guy. Um, I I think a lot, again, I despise a lot of the hatred that that this that happens here.

[01:05:58]>> The only thing is is people are convinced. I'm not saying this is my position. People are convinced he's lying and grifting. You'll never hear me say that about him because I can't know that. I don't know. For all I know, he genuinely believes this. Where I want to step in is for people who are actually seeking truth and come alongside.

[01:06:18]Absolutely. to come alongside and say, "Hey, let's test my theories. Let's test your theories. I'll pay for it." And at that point, if they're not willing to, something's something's up.

[01:06:28]>> Okay.

[01:06:30]>> All right.

[01:06:30]>> Just for his own sake, he he should have traveled on his own secretly.

[01:06:35]>> Sure.

[01:06:36]>> If he sees 24-hour son, it's like maybe maybe he's already done that. Maybe he's thinking of a new model on his app.

[01:06:43]Maybe the the problem is his app, if you look at his app, which he showed on his podcast with you, the way the sun moves, you can't have a 24-hour sun in Antarctica.

[01:06:55]>> You can. It's impossible. A >> and this is something I should mention, the 24-hour sun in the north, in the Arctic Circle. So, you can see from up here in, you know, Finland and Norway and some parts of Alaska and Sweden, >> it moves in the opposite direction than the one in Antarctica through the sky.

[01:07:13]the opposite direction. Let that sink in.

[01:07:16]>> Okay. So, he said that 24-hour sun is possible maybe because of with the help of the dome, the reflection, etc. That's the same thing that he said. How come we see other stars on the south pole pole >> in comparison to the north pole? And he said, "Yeah, maybe that's some kind of a reflection from the dome."

[01:07:34]>> Yeah, we Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.

[01:07:35]>> But I have a question then. If the universe is 13.3 billion years old, if the earth is four something million or billion years old, we're constantly flying with alongside the sun and other eight other planets or seven, it depend on how you count it. We're flying with this incredible speed towards somewhere and we still see the same stars.

[01:07:58]>> The north the northern star is always at the same spot.

[01:08:02]>> Mhm.

[01:08:02]>> How come? Okay. So, I I'm not saying I buy into the the speed of the galaxy, >> okay?

[01:08:10]>> I don't even know how they're coming up with that number, >> okay?

[01:08:13]>> But I can tell you that in our short life, >> with how vast and big the universe is, we would never be able to see a change in the stars >> in our lifetimes. Correct. I agree with you. Yeah. We just believe that the north northern star was right here. The polar star was right here, let's say 2,000 years ago. We just believe that.

[01:08:33]Yeah. Now, you're bringing up an important point and so I want to send you a couple videos right now. Uh because this is super important, okay?

[01:08:41]>> Which is which are what's known as star trails. This is another screen grab I I I took and you the time stamp is in the transcript.

[01:08:51]>> So Dave Weiss said, "You see stars rotating from east to west. They go in the same direction. People say they rotate in opposite directions in the north and the south. It's not true. It's not true at all. That's false.

[01:09:06]I'm gonna prove it to you.

[01:09:07]>> Please.

[01:09:07]>> I can look at any video of star trails and tell you which hemisphere it was filmed in based on the direction that they're that they're going because they go in opposite directions based on what hemisphere you're in.

[01:09:19]>> Do they?

[01:09:20]>> Yes.

[01:09:21]>> Okay.

[01:09:21]>> And by the way, I want to explain to your audience what star trails are. It's a It's essentially a time lapse of the stars moving through the night sky so you can see their movement. Go ahead and pull up the first one. Okay. So, notice these are going counterclockwise, right? That means this is taken in the northern hemisphere.

[01:09:43]I know that it has to be. Now, go to the other video. Now, notice these are going clockwise.

[01:09:50]>> That means this was taken in the southern hemisphere.

[01:09:54]So his his thing his claim that they they only rotate one direction east to west is false >> and everyone can do that. Everyone can >> Yes.

[01:10:03]>> do this experiment.

[01:10:05]>> I did it >> with a camera. Yeah.

[01:10:07]>> Five minutes tutorial on YouTube and you can do that.

[01:10:09]>> Yes. I'll tell you how I did it.

[01:10:11]>> Okay. So this is northern hemisphere.

[01:10:14]>> This is southern hemisphere. Clockwise is southern hemisphere.

[01:10:18]>> Okay. Where is that edge between southern and northern? That's the equator.

[01:10:24]>> So, if I film on the equator, what I'm going to see clockwise or counterlockwise?

[01:10:29]>> Well, you're actually going to see stars go straight across the the middle of the screen and you're going to start to see curves on each side. You're not going to see the celestial pole.

[01:10:42]>> Does that make sense? Okay. The celestial pole is a it's a spot in the sky. If you were to take a a line through the poles of the Earth and extend them up into the sky, that's what the celestial pole is. Now, this is important. Here's how I did it. I took an Insta 360 camera, which I actually >> not sponsored by, >> which I've actually now donated to Josh Monday, who's a friend of mine, who you've had on a few a few times, >> and I stuck it out the window of my hotel in Chile when we were there on our trip. And then I just recorded at night. The important thing for the for the star trails is you need to make sure your camera is not moving. So, you don't want to do it on a boat. You don't want to have heavy winds. So, I just put like a book or something on it and I stuck it out the window and I just let it record. I did this myself. Anybody can do this.

[01:11:32]>> And this is the global symmetry that we should have if we live on a globe.

[01:11:36]>> Okay. But Dave said it's not possible.

[01:11:38]It's not they're not moving the way they're moving. This is what he said, right?

[01:11:42]>> Mhm.

[01:11:43]>> We don't see anything underneath the flat earth. You see stars rotating from east to west. They go in the same direction. People say that that rotate in opposite direction to the north and the south. It's not true.

[01:11:54]>> I just showed you videos.

[01:11:56]>> Okay. Let me be a skeptic. Right.

[01:11:58]>> Okay. Okay.

[01:11:59]>> I have watched Avengers Endgame.

[01:12:02]>> Yeah. Great movie.

[01:12:04]>> Okay.

[01:12:04]>> Great movie.

[01:12:05]>> So, if they can do that CGI, >> they can do this CGI, too.

[01:12:09]>> Sure. So, this is where if if you want to be skeptical, which is fine. There's nothing wrong with there's nothing wrong with being skeptical. you have to go do it yourself >> and you can do it.

[01:12:17]>> So, speaking of Josh Monday and Jiren Campanella, who we've both mentioned, they are going to 53° North, which is in Canada this year, and they're going to 53 degrees south, which is where we were in PAS, Chile, >> and Josh Monday is going to go look at exactly what we're talking about, the stars and the sun.

[01:12:36]>> Yeah, but he's already called a Freemason.

[01:12:38]>> Well, >> Josh, after he did this video, they said he's a Freemason. He's one of us, one of them, excuse me.

[01:12:43]>> Well, here's the part of the club. He's proving that he's a truth seeker.

[01:12:47]>> Correct. I agree with you.

[01:12:48]>> And so if by the way, I already know that he's going to see what I saw and recorded because I was there. And so he's going to confirm that for himself.

[01:12:56]He's going to change his mind and I'm going to be happy for him. That's all that's all you can do. You can't change someone's mind. The will is the most powerful thing in the universe other than God. Someone has to change their own will.

[01:13:07]>> Okay?

[01:13:07]>> So all we can do is give them give them evidence.

[01:13:11]>> All right. Um, >> you got those 10 points right? We got only to the second.

[01:13:16]>> Okay. Yeah. Le let's move on. Let's go to number three. Sunrises and sunsets.

[01:13:21]It's something that we all experience, right? If you if you you probably have seen this, but you've never thought about it. Uh, when the sun is setting or when it's rising, it lights up the bottom of the clouds.

[01:13:35]That's not possible on a flat earth.

[01:13:39]the bottom of the clouds.

[01:13:42]>> Yeah. It only lights up the bottom of the clouds. So if you go out right before sunrise or right as it's rising and you look at the clouds, it's only lighting up the bottom of >> And it's impossible in Fedor because of what? Because if that's a a cloud is over here, the sun is over here, it's not going to light up from the bottom.

[01:13:58]It's going to on the back.

[01:14:00]>> Yeah. Their their sun is is above the clouds. The only way to light up the bottom of the clouds and not light up the top of the clouds is if the sun is lower than the clouds.

[01:14:12]>> Okay, >> so let's do an experiment.

[01:14:14]>> Yes, that one anyone can do. Now, this is a big one and I'm going to send you two videos. I can watch a sunset and I can tell you what hemisphere the sunset is from based on the direction of the sunset. This is a big one and this was a huge eye openener for Jiren. The sun sets left to right in the northern hemisphere which is what we're all used to because we're all northern hemisphere. It sets right to left in the southern hemisphere.

[01:14:49]Let me attach these real fast.

[01:14:52]>> Okay. What about equator then?

[01:14:56]>> Probably straight up and down. That's a good question. I don't know.

[01:15:01]When you're trying to prove something >> sunsets like this, >> I'm guessing yes. If you're right on the equator, that's my guess. I haven't thought about it. When you're trying to settle a debate, going to extremes is very helpful. And that's what we're doing. We're trying to go as far north and as far south as we can.

[01:15:16]>> Let's say the equator is this long, like a table long. On that side, it's going from left to right.

[01:15:25]on that side. Right to left.

[01:15:29]>> I don't understand what you're asking.

[01:15:32]>> South pole.

[01:15:33]>> Mhm.

[01:15:34]>> Right to left.

[01:15:35]>> Southern hemisphere. Right to left.

[01:15:37]>> Let's say this is southern hemisphere.

[01:15:39]We're on the equator. This is equator.

[01:15:41]The table is on equator.

[01:15:42]>> Okay.

[01:15:43]>> Right to left. Correct.

[01:15:44]>> Uhhuh.

[01:15:46]>> This is northern.

[01:15:47]>> Yes.

[01:15:48]>> Left to right.

[01:15:48]>> Yes.

[01:15:50]if you're asking.

[01:15:51]>> So, if I'm running from one side to another side, I'm going to see like that.

[01:15:56]>> The the angle, as you're about to see in these videos I just sent you, is is very minimal.

[01:16:02]>> So, for you stepping on one side of the equator versus the other, it's not going to change the angle enough for it to be visible with the naked eye. Is that >> because the equator is much long, let's say.

[01:16:12]>> No, because the Earth is so big and to you'll see play play one of the videos.

[01:16:18]Okay. So you can tell me what hemisphere this is. I never told you. Yes.

[01:16:22]>> See how it's going from left to right at an angle there?

[01:16:24]>> Yes.

[01:16:25]>> Okay. Now play the other video.

[01:16:30]This is what I love to do. I love to teach.

[01:16:35]Ah, left. Now it's going right to left.

[01:16:38]So that this is >> Is that true?

[01:16:40]>> Yes. This is the southern hemisphere.

[01:16:41]>> Let me ask my Frenchie.

[01:16:43]>> Okay.

[01:16:43]>> I got a French friend.

[01:16:45]>> His name is Claude.

[01:16:46]>> Yes. Is that true that in southern hemisphere the sun sets right to left? Short answer. And what do flat earthers say?

[01:17:00]>> That I I haven't heard them answer this >> guys. If you believe in flat earth, please comment below. But no name callings.

[01:17:09]>> Yes, we we need to be nice. Please.

[01:17:11]>> Yes, it's true. In northern hemisphere, the sun moves left to right across the sky. in the southern moves right to left because you're facing north toward the sun instead of south.

[01:17:21]>> Now, this this one I really want to stick. Okay, >> so the sun rises on the right and goes >> the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. That doesn't change with the hemisphere.

[01:17:37]>> That does not change.

[01:17:38]>> But the direction changes because we live on a globe.

[01:17:44]Okay.

[01:17:44]>> So, so this is important. Two two people watching the same sunset, same sun. It goes in opposite directions. The only way that's possible is if you're essentially antipodal to each other on the globe.

[01:17:57]>> Now, I want this to sink in for for the for the flat earthers out there. It's so so so important. The flat earth model says here's the flat earth that the sun is moving like this clockwise above the flat earth.

[01:18:11]>> Yes. Now this is important. Everyone has to get this please.

[01:18:16]Because they say it's moving clockwise.

[01:18:18]It always must set left to right no matter where you are in the earth.

[01:18:26]>> Okay.

[01:18:26]>> See because it's in their model a sunset is the sun is getting further away from you.

[01:18:32]>> Further away.

[01:18:33]>> So if it's going clockwise further away from you is going left to right. No matter where you are >> in the world. You could be on the outside of the Tropic of Capricorn. You could be on the inside of the Tropic of Capricorn. It doesn't matter. You could be you. The sun has to go from left to right as it's setting >> going away from us on a flat Earth.

[01:18:54]>> Yes. Cuz because it's clockwise.

[01:18:56]>> Clockwise.

[01:18:57]>> Yes.

[01:18:59]>> Please. Great.

[01:19:00]>> I generally want to hear your opinion on that.

[01:19:03]>> And this is what's this is what really clicked for Jiren when we were on our trip.

[01:19:07]>> It's a big one.

[01:19:08]>> It's a big one. He was putting pieces together. Again, nobody changes their mind on the spot. It's not like, "Oh, great. 24-hour son, I'm wrong." No, that's not how a mind change works. It's a cumulative thought and and and taking in all these different things and processing and trying to figure out what beliefs you held that are false. Takes time. All right, one more with the sun, >> please.

[01:19:28]>> Sunrises and sunsets.

[01:19:31]If flat Earth was true, this is super important. the sun would change in size visually.

[01:19:39]They say a sunrise is the sun is so far away you can just now barely see it.

[01:19:46]Then it gets closer to you throughout the day. Then it's straight above your head at solar noon. Then it gets further and further and further and further away until you can't see it anymore.

[01:19:57]>> So >> little big >> big little Yes. Okay.

[01:20:01]>> Yes. that doesn't happen. Now, the the the the important piece here is that you can test this and we've done it. You have to use a solar filter, though. Have you ever taken a picture of the sun with your cell phone?

[01:20:15]>> Yeah. You can't see that.

[01:20:16]>> Yeah. It's so bright, right? You got to use a solar filter. So, if you're using a solar filter, you can see sunspots and you can take a picture of the sunrise when it's still cut off by the horizon. You can take a picture of the sun when it's above you at high noon and you can take a picture when it's setting cut off by the horizon. The angular width of the sun never changes throughout the day.

[01:20:38]>> It means same size.

[01:20:40]>> Same size the whole day.

[01:20:42]>> Okay. Once again flat earth if you live you believe that you live on a flat earth that means it goes away from us and get when it's sunset when it's sunrise it's getting closer to us. Yes.

[01:20:54]So, it has to be small and it has to get bigger, bigger, and bigger.

[01:20:58]>> Yeah. And I've seen them and I and I've seen them show these very grainy videos and try to claim, look, it's getting smaller. And it's like, wait a minute.

[01:21:06]We're It's 2026. I've got a 4K camera on my cell phone. Use a solar filter. Let's do this, right? We we need we need good, clear videos. All right. This next one is the horizon dips with elevation. What that means is is on a globe, the higher you get, the horizon gets lower and lower away from you.

[01:21:28]So that's important. Flatearthers say that the horizon always rises to eye level, which is false.

[01:21:36]The reason this is important is because it's what the globe predicts. So if you think about it, when you go up on a plane, the horizon actually goes down and you can see further. If we extrapolate this out, if you get far enough away from the surface of the Earth, you can eventually see 50% of the entire Earth. You can't see 50% of the Earth if you're on a plane at 40,000 ft. Now, here's how we can prove that. The best way is what's known as a theatolyte. You can even get a theottoolyte app on your phone.

[01:22:08]>> What is that?

[01:22:09]>> Um, you level your phone and you look at where the horizon is in terms with level. So, if you're on the ground, the horizon's going to be right at the midway point. When you get on a plane at 40,000 ft and you open up that app, the horizon is now dropped below the midline.

[01:22:28]Now, a conspiracy theorist is going to say, "Well, the app is programmed to do that." So, here's something fun you can do, which I've shown my kids. You can do a you can use a water bottle on a plane.

[01:22:40]So, when you're on the ground before you take off, you get a water bottle and you drink a little bit of it so that you can see the the top of the of the water. You line up the top of the water so that you're looking straight across the top.

[01:22:53]You can't see the top like this and you're not underneath it. And you look at where the horizon is, and it's going to be right near where that water line is. When you get up on the plane, you do it again, and the horizon is now lower.

[01:23:04]So, the horizon drops with elevation.

[01:23:07]>> Okay, makes sense. Okay.

[01:23:09]>> All right. The next one, this is a big one. The Arctic Circle and the Antarctic Circle. Flatearthers stole those from the globe, not realizing they only exist because of the globe. They put them on their maps. They put an Arctic Circle and an Antarctic Circle.

[01:23:23]>> Yeah, but the Antarctic Circle is huge up to them.

[01:23:26]>> Yeah, but they >> But it's still a circle.

[01:23:27]>> Yeah, but here exactly. Here's the problem. What is it on their map? They don't have an answer for that. What is the Antarctic Circle? The Antarctic Circle is created by the axial tilt of the Earth. This gets a little heady, but I think you'll understand it.

[01:23:44]Imagine I'm putting this tilt perpendicular to you right now. Okay.

[01:23:49]Imagine I shined a very bright light in a dark room to one side.

[01:23:54]>> It's going to light up half the globe, right?

[01:23:56]>> Yes. We did this with the slider, Dave.

[01:23:59]>> Yes.

[01:23:59]>> 50%.

[01:24:00]>> And Yes. Yes. Exactly. 50%. Now, where's the line going to be? It's going to be here.

[01:24:05]>> Correct?

[01:24:05]>> It's not going to be here.

[01:24:07]>> Correct.

[01:24:08]>> That's the Arctic Circle.

[01:24:11]So, the light will go to here. And as you spin, if I'm drawing on this globe with a marker, there's my Arctic Circle.

[01:24:19]>> Correct?

[01:24:19]>> Now, in the southern summer, now the south is pointed toward toward the sun.

[01:24:26]>> Now, when I light up half, it's going to be about here. That's the Antarctic circle. Okay.

[01:24:34]>> Inside of the Arctic Circle and inside of the Antarctic Circle is where you get the 24-hour sun.

[01:24:40]>> Correct?

[01:24:41]>> They put those on their map. They're meaningless on a flat Earth. There is no Arctic Circle on a flat Earth. There's no reason to have one. There is no Antarctic circle. There's no reason to have one. They just took it from the globe and didn't think we'd figure it out.

[01:24:53]>> I would say there are two types of flat earthers. First type is they say extra territories u the circle and lots of extra territories they even name them in the s which is BS if you don't even know they really exist how can you name how can you uh draw the >> draw yeah the way they look >> what is that guys come on this is stupid and there are other flat earther that say we do not know everything we think there is an antarctic circle there we think there is kind of a wall this is what holds the whole waters uh like in a cup.

[01:25:28]>> Yes.

[01:25:28]>> So I believe the the second part the second type of flat earth say we're not sure.

[01:25:35]>> Mhm.

[01:25:35]>> But we believe that there is a circle.

[01:25:37]>> Yes. But this is important. The their Antarctica this ice wall is different from the Antarctic circle.

[01:25:44]>> It is of course.

[01:25:45]>> Yeah. So so they shouldn't have an Antarctic circle on their map. There's there doesn't make sense. A flat earth wouldn't have that.

[01:25:53]That's all I'm trying to say. They they take where it is on the globe here and put it at that latitude. Why? That that's created by the globe. They haven't really thought that through and so maybe they'll remove it from their maps. Okay. Uh let's see here. We talked about flight uh flight times already with the jetreams, but I want to add one more. This is number six on my list.

[01:26:16]Flight times. If we live on a globe, which we do, the further you go north of the equator, flight time should get shorter, right?

[01:26:29]Think about it. From the same latitude, right? If you want to travel from this latitude to this latitude, that's far.

[01:26:35]>> Oh, okay. Of course. Of course.

[01:26:36]>> But if I come up now, look how close that flight would be. Right? Make sense?

[01:26:39]>> Yes.

[01:26:40]>> And on a globe, the further you go south from the equator, flight time should get shorter.

[01:26:45]>> Correct. They do.

[01:26:47]>> Yeah. But we don't fly from uh from numbers to numbers. We fly from city to city.

[01:26:52]>> Correct. But I'm saying >> Paris to London. I don't care what latitude is that. I just care in how much time I will get there.

[01:26:58]>> Correct. What I'm saying is that flight times get shorter the further south you go. They get shorter.

[01:27:08]>> Agreed. Not even going to >> Okay.

[01:27:10]>> debate on that.

[01:27:10]>> Oops. I just sent you something on accident. Ignore that >> home video.

[01:27:14]>> No.

[01:27:15]All right. So, that's flight times. Now, this next one is big. Everyone on the Earth, everyone, no exceptions, sees the same side of the sun and the same side of the moon.

[01:27:28]We all see the same sunspots. We all see the same craters.

[01:27:32]>> Okay?

[01:27:32]>> If we lived on a flat Earth, at any given time, here's the sun. There would be people on each side of the sun seeing different sides.

[01:27:43]>> Correct?

[01:27:44]and the moon, the dark >> and the moon, >> the dark side of the moon, >> right? We never see that. So if you if you envision, and again, this is their model. Their model says the sun when it rises is getting closer to you. After noon, when it sets, it's getting further away. That's two different sides of the sun.

[01:28:03]>> But But >> yeah, but I wouldn't say they say that the sun rotates too, don't they?

[01:28:08]>> Well, that wouldn't matter. Uh because if you >> But you would see the whole sun.

[01:28:13]Yes. So, here we go. We have this guy here and we have this guy here. And they're both in South America. They're on opposite sides. If the sun is right here, they both can see the sun. They would be on opposite sides. Yet, whenever you look at the sun with a solar filter, everyone sees the exact same sunspots.

[01:28:35]>> Okay.

[01:28:35]>> Okay. All right. Number eight. We talked about already, but I'm going to say it again. The eclipse paths. The paths of totality predicted are done on a globe model. That's how they're created. And once again, August 12th, 2045, we're already stating that there's going to be a path of totality on a total solar eclipse over Disney World.

[01:28:57]>> Guys, if you're watching in 2045 right now, leave a comment below.

[01:29:01]>> Yes.

[01:29:02]>> Was he right? Was William >> and NASA right?

[01:29:05]>> You'll have 100 million subscribers at that point.

[01:29:08]>> I'm going to be rich.

[01:29:09]>> All right. Number nine, we covered which is the star rotation. And again, you can look up videos. The videos I just gave you were not even mine. They just came from YouTube. I took this. MC Tune took this. Dave McKean took this. Like we it's anybody can do it.

[01:29:26]>> But you do realize that especially right now in 2026, we live in an era when you can't trust anything with with the AI.

[01:29:33]>> Sure.

[01:29:34]>> That's it. We're done.

[01:29:35]>> When you can tell me here's a video, here's the proof. Right. Yeah, the good the good news is is those videos on YouTube are pretty old and they don't have very many views there. It's not someone trying to Again, I've seen it with my own eyes. Okay, so you guys can do it, too.

[01:29:51]>> All right, the the last one here, number 10, >> flat-earthers are going to laugh at, but it's serious. Okay, >> there are pictures of Earth from space taken every 10 minutes right now.

[01:30:04]>> How can I see them?

[01:30:06]>> Every 10 minutes.

[01:30:07]>> Where should they go? What should I type in?

[01:30:09]>> Give me one second.

[01:30:10]>> Okay.

[01:30:10]>> And I'll show you. Now that that is almost a live feed of the Earth. I'm going to send you a website right now that you can go to.

[01:30:19]This is my favorite. So there's there's two there's two satellites and one of them is called the Heawari which is Japanese. The other one is called the GO which is American. I'm sending you the Japanese one because it's the one >> I'll go with American, bro. Come on.

[01:30:35]>> Hey, I'm sorry. The Japanese one is the one I'm most familiar with and it's the it's the OG.

[01:30:40]>> They they did this before the United States did.

[01:30:44]>> That's a website.

[01:30:46]>> Correct.

[01:30:48]>> Every >> Should I trust it? Let's go.

[01:30:50]>> Yeah, definitely.

[01:30:51]>> Boom.

[01:30:52]>> Every 10 minutes they take a picture of Earth from space.

[01:30:57]Every 10 minutes.

[01:30:58]>> What are we seeing right now? What is that?

[01:31:00]>> You're seeing the Earth from space.

[01:31:03]Uh, we need to get Okay, we need to get rid of the yellow lines. So, do me a favor on the right. Do you see that yellow?

[01:31:12]No. Up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up that one. Click it again and again and again. Okay, cool. We just got rid of the the country borders.

[01:31:22]>> This is a still picture. Yes. Taken like 10 minutes ago.

[01:31:25]>> Yes.

[01:31:26]>> From space.

[01:31:27]>> Yes.

[01:31:27]>> How come I don't see any satellites?

[01:31:30]Well, >> and any trash.

[01:31:32]>> More than a million pieces of trash roam the earth and 15,000 satellites.

[01:31:37]>> Yes. I want you to look at how big the earth is here. You wouldn't see it. It'd be m a trash or a satellite would be microscopic.

[01:31:45]>> How come? So this Japanese satellite >> is taking pictures, but nothing nearby him taking pictures too.

[01:31:52]>> Yeah. His face is huge.

[01:31:55]So this is important. And now now I'm going to tell you something fascinating.

[01:31:59]In 2022, just four years ago, there was an underwater volcano that exploded called the Hunga Tonga. Hu N- A T O N G- A. It was in the middle of the ocean. No one was No one saw it. It was in the middle of the ocean. No one was there.

[01:32:16]It took over It took 20 minutes for the sound to travel from the explosion to New Zealand.

[01:32:24]This satellite, the Heimari, took a picture of the explosion before anybody even heard it.

[01:32:31]>> Do you have a picture?

[01:32:32]>> Yes, >> please.

[01:32:33]>> Okay, give me one second. This one I wasn't prepared for, so it's going to take me a second.

[01:32:37]>> Okay, no worries. I'm going to edit this out.

[01:32:39]>> Okay, thank you.

[01:32:40]>> Would you love to have a sit down uh with Dave Weiss?

[01:32:43]>> Absolutely. He would never do it in my opinion. I would do it in a heartbeat on my own dime. I'll be back here. If he's like, "No, I need to do it." I'll fly to him. Whatever you want. Absolutely.

[01:32:53]Okay, >> Dave, I know you're watching. Let's do it. Let's have some fun. It's just fun.

[01:32:58]>> Absolutely.

[01:32:58]>> Let's get to the truth.

[01:32:59]>> Let's Let's get to the truth.

[01:33:01]>> All right. I am hitting.

[01:33:02]>> Let's do it in New Zealand.

[01:33:03]>> Yes.

[01:33:04]>> In that location.

[01:33:05]>> We're going to sit on those huge chairs.

[01:33:07]We're going to look like hobbits.

[01:33:09]>> My wife would be so excited to go to New Zealand. So excited.

[01:33:13]>> New Zealand is amazing.

[01:33:14]>> Oh, >> so green.

[01:33:16]>> So green. So beautiful.

[01:33:20]But do you know how to walk upside down?

[01:33:23]>> Okay. So this >> Okay.

[01:33:26]>> All right. This this beautiful beautiful picture here was taken by the Heawari.

[01:33:31]Do you see the Hungotanga volcano on the far right in the lower right corner?

[01:33:37]>> Look at that. In the middle of the ocean. It was a volcano that exploded in the middle of the ocean.

[01:33:42]>> Why is it red? That's Australia.

[01:33:44]>> That's Australia.

[01:33:45]>> Why is it red? That's just the color.

[01:33:47]Again, colors are complicated.

[01:33:51]>> No, they're not. If I'm not green, you're not purple.

[01:33:54]>> Well, >> why is it red?

[01:33:55]>> Yeah.

[01:33:56]>> Do you know the answer?

[01:33:57]>> I do not know the answer. I don't.

[01:33:59]>> No worries. If you don't know, just Okay.

[01:34:00]>> Okay.

[01:34:01]>> So, this is the picture of that volcano eruption.

[01:34:04]>> Look at the quality of that. Incredible.

[01:34:07]Absolutely incredible.

[01:34:10]So, these the Now, by the way, these are actually weather satellites. They launched these to save lives. They wanted to see weather forming like hurricanes and massive storms before it's too late and they can warn people for tsunamis and things. That's what these were created. These weren't created to prove the globe. They couldn't care less. But they're amazing tools. Now, by the way, there was some fires in Australia recently. Massive fires in the last year or two. I went to this website that you just went to because I wanted to see what it looks like from space and there it is. You can see the smoke. If there's a big enough natural disaster happening, a hurricane, a fire, a volcano, you can see it from this website.

[01:34:53]>> Okay, let me challenge you. Can I?

[01:34:55]>> Yes.

[01:34:56]>> Can you can you pass me the globe?

[01:34:58]>> Yes.

[01:34:58]>> So, let's say we have a space shuttle.

[01:35:02]We can travel far away from Earth. Okay.

[01:35:04]>> So, let's say the Earth stands like this. We travel, let's say, from California. We travel right here.

[01:35:14]>> If I look at the Earth and I have this huge camera and I zoom in and if I zoom in from this angle right here to Australia, >> what would I see?

[01:35:26]>> Well, it's a really good question. I don't know if that level of zoom exists.

[01:35:31]>> Let's if we can see those stars million miles away and they're dead for centuries. Yeah, >> we can.

[01:35:40]>> Okay. Well, that's actually not true because those are exposures that take hours to just get that light and it's just getting light.

[01:35:49]>> Yeah, but the stars are billions and millions, gazillions miles away. I want to travel.

[01:35:54]>> I'm trying to explain that they're not zooming for the stars. It's exposure length.

[01:35:58]>> Okay. So, you're saying we don't have the technology to have >> I doubt we do. But I'll tell you what you'd see. You'd see people.

[01:36:04]>> Okay.

[01:36:04]>> Okay.

[01:36:06]>> Walking.

[01:36:07]>> Okay. Okay. So, I think you want me to say we'd see people walking upside down.

[01:36:11]>> Let's Let's say Australia.

[01:36:13]>> If it's Australia, you wouldn't. The the only the only >> Let's say this angle. And we have Bourj Khalifa in Australia. The new Bourj Khalifa 2.0.

[01:36:21]>> Yes.

[01:36:21]>> It's huge. It sticks like this.

[01:36:23]>> Yes.

[01:36:24]>> From this angle.

[01:36:25]>> Would they say it's sticking like this?

[01:36:27]>> Yeah, I think so.

[01:36:28]>> That's insane. Take a picture. This is the easiest way to prove that space and globe.

[01:36:34]>> Well, I don't think I know, but I don't think the technology exists. Come on.

[01:36:38]1969. You traveled to the moon. Then you lost the technology.

[01:36:43]>> He had a phone call with astronauts in 1969 and now you can't have you can fly over here. Let's say I was the distance and have a zoom just to show us how Australian the Aussies walking upside down or just the building sticking down.

[01:36:59]>> Yeah. Here's the problem.

[01:37:00]>> And how's the water holding?

[01:37:02]>> Here's the problem.

[01:37:03]>> Please explain it to me. No one cares about flat Earth.

[01:37:07]>> A lot of people care.

[01:37:09]>> No, no, no. I do. Right. I'm trying to show people the truth.

[01:37:12]>> Do you care? Do you >> No one else does. So, they're they're going to spend the billions of dollars to put up these weather satellites to save lives and to predict weather.

[01:37:22]They're not going to do it to refute some flat Earth is online. They're just not. They don't care enough.

[01:37:28]>> Okay, let's let's go Google Maps.

[01:37:32]>> Mhm.

[01:37:34]If I go to Google Maps, I zoom out as as much as Okay, >> it's a projection. You'd have to go to Google Earth if you want to see the global >> Google Earth. Okay, so let's see. This is how I would love I would love to just zoom in right here. Why don't they let us me? Because if I zoom in, >> it's not that they don't let you. So, >> okay. If I zoom in, they turn. Do not turn. Show me. So, this somewhere over here is Bj Khalifa. the tallest building on Earth, right?

[01:38:05]>> Yes.

[01:38:05]>> I put it the planet right here. Just we're in space shuttle.

[01:38:09]>> I try to zoom in. I want to see this Bourj Khalifa >> sticking out.

[01:38:16]>> Why don't they?

[01:38:17]>> Okay. So, I don't know why they don't do that. Again, it's probably because they don't care. I don't know what it would take to get a zoom that big with a satellite that high. I don't know. But I'll tell you something. I'm going to tell you what the flat-earthers would say. They're going to say that it was that it was taken right side up and flipped. They're not going to believe anything. That's the problem.

[01:38:38]>> Okay. So, you you're thinking they think that they don't care about flat earthers and they're not they don't care about covering the entire earth. But here in California, I want to say three to four years ago, they spent a lot of money to find a slug and name it a banana slug and turn it into an official slug of California.

[01:38:56]>> Well, >> official thing. Please do facteing.

[01:39:00]>> Okay. I'm not sure who did that or why, but >> Okay. The other thing then?

[01:39:06]>> Yeah. What's the other thing?

[01:39:08]>> This thing.

[01:39:10]So, you want to tell me that this is how it rains on the globe?

[01:39:14]>> Yes, that's how it rains on the globe.

[01:39:16]Although, >> how can you visualize it?

[01:39:19]>> Uh, I don't.

[01:39:20]>> If we watch again, we're right here in space. So, a rain in Mexico is going sideways. A rain in America going from up down. And here it goes, let's say, in Argentina from above.

[01:39:37]>> Mhm.

[01:39:38]>> Rain comes from above water.

[01:39:40]>> Here's the problem. We I'm not saying it's not hard to comprehend things in this world. It is. It is. It is. I can't I can't comprehend the cell >> and atoms and DNA and all of that.

[01:39:55]>> Um >> even how the TV >> the the reality is there is no up or down in space that's going to help you solve this in your mind.

[01:40:05]>> So I I have I've been having this thought months and months and months.

[01:40:10]But then I took let's say I took flat earth. If this is a plane, this is a flat earth, but we're on a space shuttle. We travel let's say far above the flat earth. It means we can travel from that part too.

[01:40:26]So what we're going to see?

[01:40:27]>> Mhm. We're going to see in different part of the earth.

[01:40:30]>> Then what is there?

[01:40:31]>> Yeah.

[01:40:32]>> Or we travel from this perspective watching upside down. So it means the rain goes from above too.

[01:40:40]>> So here's the important thing. There's no up or down in space. So down, >> it's hard to comprehend this >> is down for us is toward the center.

[01:40:48]That's what down is.

[01:40:51]>> Is it a closed system in your mind?

[01:40:53]>> Did God create a closed system for us?

[01:40:56]>> I think the universe is a closed system, but that's all I'm willing to state.

[01:41:00]>> It's so big then.

[01:41:01]>> Yes, it is. Which is beautiful. I mean, can you imagine how boring it would be if we just figured everything out? He made something that we're still learning about and and discovering today. I love it.

[01:41:12]No, we're discovering how many genders can children choose. 96 now.

[01:41:17]>> Yes, that's she eat them. Z, zoo, tree, and 90 plus others.

[01:41:22]>> Yeah, that's an issue. And I and I want you to focus more on that. I love that.

[01:41:28]>> On what? Genders >> on um you know indoctrination in schools, grooming, all that kind of thing. Yeah. Because because it it's they we they we are harming our children for sure, which is one of the reasons that my wife and I homeschool our kids.

[01:41:45]>> Me too.

[01:41:46]>> Is this is going to end up being a big really bad experiment going on with how we're treating genders and sex and >> we're going to feel it in 20 years.

[01:41:57]>> Yeah. Or >> they're going to be in power >> or sooner.

[01:42:00]>> Or sooner. Okay. Are we going to the moon or not? You want to go to the moon?

[01:42:07]I don't want to go to the moon physically now.

[01:42:08]>> No. No. But do you want to touch that topic because I have major issues with the moon?

[01:42:12]>> I I really don't. Um I haven't looked into it. I could theoretically if the moon landings were faked that doesn't change the shape of the earth.

[01:42:22]>> Okay. Is shape of the earth.

[01:42:25]>> Yeah. I like to stick to what what I'm doing here.

[01:42:27]>> Okay. Then please continue.

[01:42:27]>> Now I just sent you an email.

[01:42:29]>> Okay.

[01:42:29]>> And this one's going to be an important one.

[01:42:31]>> Okay.

[01:42:33]>> Back to flat earth Dave.

[01:42:34]>> Please. He likes to go on shows like yours and state that if you can provide just one globe proof, he'll give you three bitcoins.

[01:42:45]>> This is fake. It's fake. So, here's him saying it right here.

[01:42:49]>> Yes, he did say that.

[01:42:50]>> He says right here, "Prove the Earth is a globe. Just one proof, not 10. One, and you win three bitcoins. That's a pretty fair deal."

[01:42:59]>> Now, this is a fake >> Bitcoin offer. It's not real.

[01:43:03]>> Why?

[01:43:04]>> Here's why.

[01:43:05]Um, imagine I told you now I need to state this for everybody. This is not real what I'm saying. This is completely hypothetical.

[01:43:13]>> Okay?

[01:43:13]>> If I came to you, which I never would do, and I said, "Apollo, I will offer you three bitcoins, which is a lot of money. If you can offer one proof of New Zealand, you're going to be excited, right?

[01:43:27]>> You've never been there, but you don't care. You're like, I can prove to this will guy that New Zealand exists for three bitcoins." What are you going to do?

[01:43:34]What are you going to do to prove it to me to get your three bitcoins?

[01:43:37]>> I'm going to get you to a New Zealand.

[01:43:38]>> Well, you're not going to start there, right? That's too much work. You're going to say, "Hey, I have a friend who lives there." And you're going to present that as evidence to me and I'm going to say, >> "That's not evidence.

[01:43:50]>> He's lying."

[01:43:51]>> Right?

[01:43:51]>> He's lying. Right? I, by the way, I have a friend, Drew, who lived in New Zealand for years. He just moved to Spain. But I I have this.

[01:43:58]>> Okay.

[01:43:58]>> The next thing you're going to do is you're going to be like, "No, no, no.

[01:44:00]He's not lying. Here are pictures that my friend gave me. No one's ever seen these before of New Zealand. And I'm going to say, "Those are fake."

[01:44:08]>> Fake.

[01:44:09]>> Those are fake. Then you're going to say, "Well, no, I've got a video of of these mountains."

[01:44:13]>> Fake.

[01:44:13]>> Fake. And you're going to be like, "Okay, I really want these bitcoins. I am going to just bite the bullet and I'm going to pay to take Will to New Zealand to prove to him that it's real. It's worth it, >> right?"

[01:44:26]>> And I'm going to say, "That's a setup. I I don't trust you. It's a It's a shot with me and I'm not going to go with you.

[01:44:34]>> That's what Dave does.

[01:44:35]>> Then I would say, "Here are the tickets.

[01:44:37]You go on your own. I'm not even going with you."

[01:44:40]>> Yeah. So, let's let's try that with Dave Weiss. He's not going to do it. Right.

[01:44:44]>> Okay. So, he has an offer. He gives you three bitcoins which are worth more than $200,000 at this moment.

[01:44:49]>> That's right.

[01:44:50]>> What would be your number one proof of the globe >> uh >> to get the bitcoins?

[01:44:56]>> That's a really good question. So I would probably use pictures from space >> fig.

[01:45:03]>> Probably the 1972 blue marble is what I would use.

[01:45:07]>> I can generate it in seconds with claude or chipt.

[01:45:11]>> Let's play let's play this.

[01:45:13]>> Sure. So you're seeing the problem, right? It's it's I don't it's not it's not real. Now we have Dave Weiss on record saying that if you want to prove the globe, >> show a 24-hour sun in Antarctica. M.

[01:45:27]>> Yes.

[01:45:29]>> Did he really say that?

[01:45:30]>> Yes, he did.

[01:45:32]>> And did you provide him the >> Of course. Everybody's provided him evidence. N he'll never accept any of it. It's a fake offer.

[01:45:39]>> So that's the money that you're going to use to fly us to New Zealand because you got those three bitcoins.

[01:45:45]>> Bro, you're lying. I know.

[01:45:46]>> No.

[01:45:47]>> Okay. So, give me an example. What kind of proof would you I would I would I'll play Dave. You say blue marble. I would say, "Let let me let me give you another proof with Claude. Here's a new blue marble. I don't believe you. Give me something else as a proof."

[01:46:02]>> I I've done my part at that point. So that that's when we go to court.

[01:46:06]>> No, that's not the proof. That's not a proof. A picture is not a proof of anything. I can get Okay, I'm going to tell you of this. I claim that Will was when he was in LA, he was spotted with a prostitute. You're going to tell me, "Please show me the evidence and I'm going to fake the picture with you with the in the and the prostitute."

[01:46:25]>> Well, okay.

[01:46:26]>> There's an evidence, right?

[01:46:27]>> Yeah. So, you can fake pictures.

[01:46:29]>> Yes.

[01:46:29]>> That's why I would use something that has been around since 1972 before the internet, before CGI. I think he would lose in court 100%. If you're going to go make this public proclamation and an offer, you have to accept something. You can't just call it fake and say, "I don't have to pay you." Okay, that means you're you trust the system of a court.

[01:46:49]Let's say in 2021 here in California, you weren't allowed to go outside. It's anticonstitutional.

[01:46:56]>> Mhm.

[01:46:57]>> But they still did it.

[01:46:59]>> They said your body, your choice, >> but if you want to go back to work or if you want to go outside or to the restaurant or to the grocery store, you should take the shot. It's unconstitutional.

[01:47:10]But what did the courts say? Nothing.

[01:47:12]Crickets.

[01:47:13]>> Yeah.

[01:47:13]>> Okay. So the court system is not >> it's it's corrupt. It's not biased.

[01:47:17]>> It's corrupt.

[01:47:18]>> Okay.

[01:47:19]>> So anyway, I'm just explaining to people, don't be fooled by that. It's a it's it's a fake offer. There's nothing he will accept. And when you go as far as offering to pay for him to go to Antarctica, he won't. And he already proved that. So let's see.

[01:47:34]>> Okay. So if if he really said that if you show me a proof of 24 hours, I'm going to say that it's a globe or I'm going to hand you the three bitcoins.

[01:47:42]>> Yeah. then it's a bad rep for him.

[01:47:44]>> That's exactly >> Dave, I know you're watching. Did you say that or not?

[01:47:47]>> So, let's see if he'll go with us to New Zealand. I bet he won't.

[01:47:51]>> Please, Dave, I'm paying.

[01:47:52]>> Let's go. He's paying.

[01:47:53]>> It has It has to be all three of us.

[01:47:55]>> Cool. Okay.

[01:47:56]>> And we're doing a show there. A debate friendly debate. I'm going to be a moderator.

[01:47:59]>> We'll live stream the whole nine yards.

[01:48:02]>> Let's do it. Dave Weiss, sir. Please, let's go.

[01:48:06]>> All right. So, here's how I want to end is I want to give some advice to change people's lives. Now, I'm not some special guy that can change people's lives. I can tell you that this will change your life based on other people who have told me, "Will, thank you. You changed my life."

[01:48:24]>> Okay.

[01:48:24]>> All right.

[01:48:26]People, this is for the flatearthers watching. Okay. This is for flat-earthers. This is for you from the bottom of my heart. People in the world today do not respect or take serious flat-earthers. They just don't. And so flat-earthers who have good hearts, they do. Many of them are trying to spread the gospel. Many of them are trying to defend God. They're not being taken seriously because of flat earth. And so I want flat-earthers to know based on the information I gave you today, there's plenty more of it. you can walk away from this and then people will actually start to take you seriously on these other important issues that matter that matter like you've been talking about government overreach these COVID restrictions we went through if we're going to go through that again there is something called birds aren't real have you heard of it >> yes >> okay birds aren't real is a fake conspiracy >> pigeons when you say they're saying pigeons >> meant to prove a point it's all birds It's all birds.

[01:49:31]>> It's okay.

[01:49:32]>> It's It is ridiculous. They They even have a website. Go to birds aren'treal.com.

[01:49:36]>> Now, this is going to prove a point, though.

[01:49:39]>> They, by the way, their website talks all about it. And they say that the government killed off all natural birds and replaced them with drones to spy on us. The reason you see them on the telephone wires is so they can get recharged. The reason they >> The reason they poop on your car is to track you. So >> no way they're saying this.

[01:50:01]>> Yes. All right. Now, >> they on my car just to track me.

[01:50:04]>> Yes.

[01:50:04]>> Are there >> That is what >> excrements.

[01:50:07]>> That is what the birds aren't real conspiracy theory is. So here's what I'm going to tell you right now. If you were going to hire somebody, an assistant, you want a really good assistant, someone that's sharp, competent, go-getter, and during the interview they say, "Hey, Apollo, I believe in something crazy. It's that birds aren't real. They're fake." All of them. Are you going to hire that person?

[01:50:30]>> Yes.

[01:50:30]>> Why?

[01:50:31]>> Because their area of expertise. If they do, let's say if they if she edits or he edits my podcast the way I like.

[01:50:37]>> Yeah. Well, if you have two people that both ha have similar qualifications, but one of them in the interview tells you that they actually believe birds aren't real. You're not going to hire that person. I'm not going to hire that person, unfortunately.

[01:50:50]>> No, I can't say it because then you can say, okay, do you believe Jesus Christ is the prophet only or the God himself?

[01:50:55]He's only the prophet. I'm not going to hire you.

[01:50:57]>> That's completely different.

[01:50:58]>> No, that's his belief system. He believes that Jesus was real, but he was only a prophet.

[01:51:03]>> Yes, that that's different, right? We're talking about the past. We're trying to rely on historical books and archaeology. That's difficult. Birds are real. You can go capture one. You can cut them open. That's my point, right?

[01:51:15]And so I want flat-earthers to know number one, the people who have escaped the flat earth cult come to me and are so glad. They're like, "My life is completely changed. It's a brand new life. I'm so happy." And you now actually can influence people. You can absolutely influence people on the issues that matter. So that's why I'm doing this is to actually help this world become a better place so that people can focus on other things and be taken more seriously. The flatearthers that I've talked to have said that they don't they they struggle to to be successful. They struggle in relationships. They struggle with their own family. They >> because of this.

[01:51:55]>> Yes. They've been disowned by their family. It's a really sad story.

[01:51:58]>> Yeah. But at the same time they say I was disowned by my own family because I v voted to let's say for Trump or for Biden.

[01:52:06]>> Yes. Yes. Now that's >> so it's not only flat earth.

[01:52:08]>> It's not only flat earth but that that is the common theme with flat earth and it's because it's in my opinion so obviously not true. There are issues to divide over. That's not I'm not saying there aren't. There are. This isn't one of them. And I can tell you there's freedom on the other side.

[01:52:25]>> Okay. Let's say we're in 2021.

[01:52:28]Conspiracy theories back back from even 2020, they say, "Do not take this thing.

[01:52:33]It's not going to be good for your health."

[01:52:36]>> Five, four, five years later, we we see all the turbo cancers. We see people dying suddenly, soccer players, athletes, etc., 30 year olds, 25 year olds. It seems like conspiracy theories were right.

[01:52:50]>> It does.

[01:52:51]>> But we didn't believe them in 2020. H lunatics, right? Not necessarily.

[01:52:56]>> A lot of people were turning on the Yeah, I think that they're crazy.

[01:53:00]>> Oh, yeah. I agree with you. Um people were acting out of fear, right? We're not rational when we're acting out of fear and and when you're in a situation where you're like watching the news and the news is telling you you could die.

[01:53:13]All these people are dying. It's scary, right? My my my wife was was someone that would have got the vaccine. I think she ended up getting COVID. And so, again, from our limited medical knowledge, what's the point in getting the vaccine if we if we actually got COVID? But there's differences of of opinion even within close families. And I think that's okay. But people were acting out of fear. Now, sometimes acting out of fear can be a good thing, but sometimes it can harm you. I do agree. It seems that the science is coming out showing that those people were right. I especially am seeing science coming out that the children should not have been vaccinated and that they are developing heart issues. And again, if somebody, this is my position, if somebody wants to take a position of like, hey, I'm going to take the risk into my own hands, >> right? You do you, >> and I'm going to wait until there's been years of of studies and data on this before I make that decision. I think that's great.

[01:54:11]>> Or I want to do this thing. I want to give the shot. It's up to me.

[01:54:14]>> Yes, definitely. Definitely.

[01:54:18]Let if I told you two hours ago prior to us starting the podcast that I'm a flatearther, would you change your mind towards me?

[01:54:26]>> No, >> I wouldn't. I wouldn't too.

[01:54:29]>> So whether the earth is flat or it's a globe, my life does not change. I'm still here on this, let's say, planet.

[01:54:36]>> Yes.

[01:54:37]>> And I'm still here to do something, something maybe special to raise a family, to believe in Jesus Christ. And my goal is to get to the truth first and to get people to know Christ second.

[01:54:49]>> Absolutely. Now, let me tell you something which is so so important which is why I actually did all of this. I did all of this because my passion is showing people that God is real. That's my personal passion. It is so obvious to me that God is real, that he created the universe, and that all of this would not be here without him. flatearthers are going against that.

[01:55:17]>> No, they don't.

[01:55:18]>> Here they they are without knowing it.

[01:55:21]When because we live on a globe and they're going out saying, "No, God created a flat earth with a dome." And and then they're saying that's what the Bible says.

[01:55:32]>> They're telling the world, "Well, if God created a flat earth, then there is no God because we live on a globe." They're telling the world, "Well, if the Bible says we live on a flat earth, then I know that Bible was not written by God because we live on a globe." So, in reality, it's flat-earthers that are hiding God, not the other way around.

[01:55:52]And so, I'm trying to help them with our shared passion of revealing this creator to the world.

[01:55:59]>> Okay. Do you think there are aliens?

[01:56:01]>> I do not.

[01:56:02]>> You do not.

[01:56:03]>> I believe there are UAP, but not aliens. UAP is unidentified anomalous phenomena.

[01:56:10]>> Yes. And what are those in your opinion?

[01:56:13]>> I don't know, but I'm really into something right now which is uh what are known as NDEEs? I prefer that stands for near-death experience. I prefer to call them out-of- body experiences, which I think is more accurate. I think it could easily have something to do with the spiritual realm, which we can pretty much prove at this point. And by the way, there's peer-reviewed science on this, so I'm not going crazy. Uh, people have out-of- body experiences. That's confirmed. Which means there's something about us that's not physical.

[01:56:42]>> And I think it could have something to do with that. I just haven't looked into it a lot.

[01:56:46]>> Do you think the world is run by Satan right now?

[01:56:50]>> That's such a hard question to answer. I I don't know. I mean, obviously Satan has an influence. Yes. Is he running everything? I I I don't think I can say that.

[01:57:00]>> Okay. You're hopeful or hopeless for the future?

[01:57:03]>> Very hopeful. especially on the question of God's existence. Materialism is pretty much an endangered species at this point. Materialism, this idea that all there is is physical things is completely being shown to be absolutely false in so many areas. I am so hopeful right now, more hopeful than I've ever been.

[01:57:25]>> Jesus Christ is Lord.

[01:57:26]>> Absolutely.

[01:57:27]>> Will, thank you for coming. You did this a long trip from right from Colorado.

[01:57:32]Yes.

[01:57:33]>> Thank you for doing this. I had an incredible conversation. You got me with a couple of uh things, especially with the sun going from left to right and right to left. That's a that's a topic that I have to stomach and realize why.

[01:57:46]Right. So, just as I told you, I'm not a flat-earther and I'm not a glober. I'm just seeking for the truth. When I did a podcast with David Weiss, he presented me lots of interesting things and facts.

[01:57:59]Yes, you dismissed those trips from uh Sydney to >> Santiago.

[01:58:05]>> Yeah, but the trip with Argentina soccer team is real, etc. So, I had a blast with him and I had a blast with you and I'm hoping Mr. David Weiss is going to accept the offer if we're going to do debate in New Zealand or in any, let's say, any other city in the US. I'm willing to travel. He lives in uh Connecticut, Connecticut. You live in Colorado. We can meet up. Let's say Texas, Vegas, you name it. David, let's do it.

[01:58:31]>> If he wants to do it in Connecticut, I'll be there on my own dime.

[01:58:37]>> Okay, I'll be there, too. So, David, if you want to get to the truth, which I think you you should, let's do it. Let's do it. Would you be willing to have a a debate with any other flatearther?

[01:58:49]>> Any flat-earther?

[01:58:50]>> Not any, but the way the the one that presents Yeah.

[01:58:54]>> facts in it.

[01:58:55]>> Any flat-earther at any time.

[01:58:58]Yeah, >> it's an open invitation, guys.

[01:58:59]>> Open invitation.

[01:59:00]>> DM me on Instagram if you would love to debate. Will I'm going to arrange that.

[01:59:04]I'm going to be a moderator. And as you can see, I'm trying to be not biased at all because I know I want to get to the truth. Amen. Thank you. God bless you, brother.

[01:59:12]>> Thank you so much. That's all we should all be looking for is truth. I think if we truly seek truth, we will find it. I enjoyed every minute of this. Thanks so much.

[01:59:19]>> From the bottom of my heart, I would love to say thank you for watching this entire episode till the very end. Be sure to subscribe to this channel, like this video, and click here or here and watch another great episode.