Millennial Nostalgia

Added: 2026-05-22

[00:00:01]Who needs a vacation when you can have a vocation?

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[00:00:08]>> On record, by far the most uncomfortable stranger danger I think we've had.

[00:00:12]>> It's the craziest, weirdest Hey everybody, welcome to Don't Make Me Come Back There >> Your Adventure. Let's go.

[00:00:39]>> Uh my name Funny Podcast about FM. My name is Dustin Nickerson. I'm standing the host of the forementioned podcast and alongside me in our state of the art recording studio above in La Mesa, California, my lovely wife, my co-host. And uh God, it makes me so happy when you're wearing something I picked out.

[00:00:59]>> Yes.

[00:01:00]>> Melissa Nickerson. I also picked out Andy's outfit.

[00:01:04]>> Really?

[00:01:04]>> You guys uh >> here at the uh you know, I'm just I decided this is my this is my time to become a real demanding host. Is that you guys like um >> you are doing wardrobes?

[00:01:16]>> Well, Billy Corgan kind of infamously did this with the Smashing Pumpkins. Uh, I don't know that he chose wardrobe.

[00:01:24]>> I wouldn't be surprised if he did, >> but he gave them all looks.

[00:01:28]>> He wanted all look. He wanted And if you go back to, you know, peak era Smashing Pumpkins, uh, they had a look. Each each person had a look and they had a vibe.

[00:01:39]And they were a very aesthetically interesting band. And uh and also uh he was a egoomaniac and it fell apart. But I think there I don't even know who's in the band now. I think Jimmy's in it. I don't know who's in the band anymore.

[00:01:57]But >> yeah, everyone except um >> Marcy. Marcy.

[00:02:00]>> Marcy. There you go.

[00:02:01]>> But Marcy, >> you know, that's the nice thing.

[00:02:03]Sometimes you stick around long enough that your bands, they're great and then they fight and they break up and then they age and they're like, "Hey, you know, we got to we got to work, man." This is my favorite theory right now on the Oasis reunion is that the brother was going through a divorce. He's like, "Hey, we need to add some dates."

[00:02:23]>> Is that true that that he's going through a divorce?

[00:02:26]>> It's all specul Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:02:28]But >> him being like, "Yeah, you know what?

[00:02:30]Rock and Roll Hall of Fame does sound kind of great. It does sound pretty great now now at the uh at this stage.

[00:02:37]So, but anyways, thanks for tuning in.

[00:02:39]The point is I chose Melissa and Andy as an aesthetic choice.

[00:02:45]>> You did find this shirt, which is funny.

[00:02:47]I'm >> And you do match the wall today.

[00:02:49]>> Oh, I do. Yeah.

[00:02:50]>> Yeah.

[00:02:51]>> Well, this is uh Joel's excited about this. Uh this is some old like Keith Herring graphics, old skater die type stuff. This is just an exceedingly '9s shirt.

[00:03:00]>> Oh my gosh. Um, and uh, Joel's impressed by it. So, uh, I told him, you know, I'll do what I usually do, which is, uh, get a wear or two and and, uh, then just pass it around. Listen, the world is expensive right now.

[00:03:14]>> And if I could just get all of my family to fit into the same size shirt, >> then we could just rotate.

[00:03:21]>> Then we could, we're doing it. We're getting close.

[00:03:25]>> We're getting close. And, you know, they do get passed around. We've had a couple items that have hit all five of us.

[00:03:34]>> It's a weird phenomenon.

[00:03:35]>> Go to me, to you, to Joel, to Gloria, to Claire, >> and then and then to Andy. Andy gets them eventually. So, >> uh, thanks for tuning in everybody. We appreciate uh you being uh you being there in the back seat.

[00:03:50]>> Mhm.

[00:03:51]>> Um, quite a quite a weekend for Well, before I get into my weekend, we got some nice gifts here. Um, one when uh so I did that little uh off thereord thing for Subpop and they uh gave me a vinyl of it which is nice.

[00:04:08]>> So nice.

[00:04:09]>> Nice.

[00:04:09]>> That is very nice. I just >> I wish I could be >> a vinyl guy.

[00:04:14]>> Oh, no. I mean I wish I could uh I like vin what I think vinyls are cool to display. That's what I like about vinyls cuz it's like it's a good um memory of artwork being important. like >> what the rise of the >> music >> one thing that um you know Spotify is very interesting it's like an interesting social study >> and as artists I would love your thoughts on this and that what it has done is it's given more art to the consumer but it's taken more money away from the artist immediately but it could take them to a different level alto together >> because they can get streamed so much more now and your music so much more accessible. But it is in small ways it's taken away things like it's taken some of the artistic nature of an album.

[00:05:06]>> Albums aren't what they once were and that you would just sit down with an album and it told a story and it had an arch and it had Easter eggs and it had segways and it was like it had builds within it. It was about you. It wasn't about the chapter, it was about the book. And part of it was the cover of the book. Yeah.

[00:05:24]>> And it was so fun to go through, >> you know, and your favorite artist would come out with like a double and you're like, "Oh my gosh, this is what I'm doing for the next couple of weekends, you know." So, like, this is just good art and uh and when things were on records and CDs, they um >> trying a little bit more.

[00:05:42]>> Yeah. But I also like I, you know, as a kid who would have loved to listen to more music.

[00:05:48]>> Yeah. like when I was a kid, but we didn't have money. And that way I support Spotify cuz it's like, hey, this just gets more art into the people's hands because >> records were so expensive. It was expensive to buy a CD. I had like four CDs as a kid.

[00:06:05]>> Yeah. And records are expensive now. CDs are actually People forgot that CDs were expensive. It'd be like you get like a It'd be like $18 like a 12 song like >> CD, whatever.

[00:06:14]>> Yeah. And you're like, I don't like the chili peppers that much.

[00:06:18]But I actually took uh Sunny to like a little daddy daughter day and I took her to the record store in Carl'sbad. I was like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Let's go look at records." Like, "This is what I used to do." And it's great because it feels like this is what record stores feel like, what it's supposed to feel like, you know? Um and yeah, for that same thing, like I had to hold myself back from spending $100 on like a 25th anniversary album release that was like a book with a double record. And I'm like, I want this so bad. Like as an artist, I'm like, I just I can't >> I can't spend this right now.

[00:06:48]>> I did end up buying like a record of like, oh, this was one of my favorite albums. And I realized I never owned it on vinyl. So I realized like, oh, I want to start doing that. I actually want to go back and start rebying albums that I had like on CD during the CD era, but I never had the vinyl for those.

[00:07:03]>> So that's my new journey. But >> I bought her like the Michael Jackson soundtrack album, and she just loved having it in her hand. It's fun to have physical media.

[00:07:13]>> I think it's important.

[00:07:14]>> I think it's really important.

[00:07:15]>> There's there's a picture of of 5-year-old me holding up a VHS of the TMNT movie.

[00:07:22]>> 5-year-old me. I got it on my birthday.

[00:07:25]I've been chasing that high ever since.

[00:07:31]>> Yeah.

[00:07:31]>> And I'm wearing a Ninja Turtle sweatshirt in it. And I'm like, I'm holding it with two hand. I'm holding it.

[00:07:38]>> Yeah. Ah, >> is there some Okay, I'm curious.

[00:07:42]>> Little did I know a couple weeks later I was going to get bit in the face and then a few months later my parents were going to get divorced. But in that moment, >> the world was right.

[00:07:54]>> That movie was going to mean more to me than I could ever imagine.

[00:07:58]>> Is there something to the fact that like novelty toys and all of that has like risen over the past like 15 years?

[00:08:06]because it's like you can't just look at a novelty toy online and get the same excitement. Nothing you got to physically hold. But unfortunately like the music industry is like died.

[00:08:15]>> Well, this is a good that kind of thing.

[00:08:16]>> This is a good segue into something else that somebody just gave me. It wasn't just music. It was also video games.

[00:08:22]>> Yes. So, somebody this is >> so this to me this I mean I have the kindest most gracious good fans and supporters who bring me the coolest stuff. So this is the what 94 96 the Kanger which I think is the best sports video game of all time just cuz it was the thing that came out when I was a kid and in it you know you would get the game and uh and it also maybe this isn't it cartridge >> yeah you would get the physical cartridge and they would come like this one came with a baseball collector card inside and it would have a pamphlet and there was something and you I can just remember the physical feeling of going like and it's like putting it in the >> Yeah, cuz once I saw it, I remember and then you But you just go like um now it's like, "Oh, can I get this game?" Okay, I have it. It's downloading.

[00:09:22]>> Ask your parent. Yeah.

[00:09:23]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mom, Dad, can I get this game? You can. Okay. What's your credit card number?

[00:09:29]>> No, you you like request it, right? And they go approved or denied. Yeah. Look at you. Lipstick on the cup.

[00:09:36]>> Listen.

[00:09:36]>> Oh my gosh. You're like a different I've never known you as a lipstick on the cup girl.

[00:09:40]>> Well, I only wore it for the podcast.

[00:09:42]>> Are you trying to seduce me?

[00:09:48]>> I had to pound that cuz I didn't during BTS.

[00:09:51]>> Yeah, I understand.

[00:09:52]>> Mhm.

[00:09:53]>> I do think there is something to that. I think that um maybe it's, you know, our generation in theory coming into like we're it's it's an era of millennial nostalgia, you know, cuz it's kind of like we're the ones making the movies and stuff now. That's like, you know, so like records, >> you rule the world now.

[00:10:13]>> Yeah, we do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um record stores, like we did go to record stores.

[00:10:19]They were CD, I mean, but Tower Records had CDs, but it was still a store you would go to. But yeah, I mean, what have they been the movies this year? He-Man, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighters coming out, Devil Wears Prada, Freakier Friday.

[00:10:32]I mean, it's all >> millennial nostalgia, baby. Just let us >> There's another Freaky Friday, >> the last one that came out. Yeah.

[00:10:40]>> Freakier Friday. That's right. Yes. Yes.

[00:10:43]We're in the era of millennial nostalgia.

[00:10:45]>> I felt like He-Man was late. Personally, I feel like He-Man feels a little late.

[00:10:48]>> Well, they had the cartoon or they're working. Uh, no. I'm surprised it's it took this long to make it.

[00:10:54]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mario. Mario Brothers.

[00:10:56]>> Mario.

[00:10:58]>> Mhm.

[00:10:58]>> Right.

[00:10:59]>> Yeah.

[00:11:00]>> Toy Story 75.

[00:11:02]>> That's right.

[00:11:02]>> Yeah.

[00:11:03]>> Mhm.

[00:11:06]>> Which one are we up to?

[00:11:07]>> I think six or seven.

[00:11:09]>> Yeah. Six.

[00:11:10]>> Six or seven.

[00:11:11]>> Yeah.

[00:11:12]>> Um >> 41-year-old Millennial Andy in Toy Story 5. There was I just saw a whack like conspiracy theory around Toy Story and the Colorado Avalanche, the hockey team that like every time a new Toy Story was coming out and every time they're in the playoffs they won >> and the guy was like pinning it to all of the releases. Yeah.

[00:11:31]>> Now granted at the end of it you're like, "Wait, you totally skipped over three and four and like it didn't work out." So it's not true, but I just thought that was a >> Toy Story. Go ahead. Where you >> conspiracy?

[00:11:41]>> Didn't you look up that Toy Story came out in 98?

[00:11:46]I thought, yeah, we did look this up. I forgot one time or late 90s, so it's 20 years.

[00:11:51]>> Well, it was uh we were looking up Tom Hanks went on the most incredible run of acting in the '9s.

[00:11:57]>> It's insane. It's, you know, Philadelphia, Forest Gump, Apollo 13, Catch Me If You Can, Castway, like Toy Story, that thing you do. Like there's some underrated ones.

[00:12:10]>> Mail, Sleepless in Seattle, >> Saving Private Ryan.

[00:12:14]>> Yeah. They just one after another.

[00:12:16]>> It just went on an incredible run. So, >> well, I think that's because uh I was texting my friend this uh the millennial, it's a trend. Uh millennials, it's time to pick your midlife crisis.

[00:12:30]>> Oh, right.

[00:12:30]>> Uh so, bird watching, needle point, pickle ball, just one more baby, sourdough, wellness girly, >> you know, it's it's all the same.

[00:12:40]Gardening, cold plunging. Yeah.

[00:12:42]>> Yeah. Substack. What about standup comedy?

[00:12:46]>> Backyard chickens.

[00:12:48]>> Book club. Yeah, >> backyard chickens.

[00:12:52]>> Midlife crisis. Just my whole life crisis.

[00:12:54]>> Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say Andy.

[00:12:56]>> Oh, run a marathon. Good luck with your knees. Um.

[00:13:00]>> Yeah.

[00:13:00]>> But just because I mean we're we're geriatric or we're the older millennials.

[00:13:06]>> Yeah.

[00:13:07]>> And you know I'll be 42 next month. So yeah, >> we're we're inching. Oh my >> along Zenial Elder here.

[00:13:15]>> Yeah.

[00:13:15]>> I went into uh uh I went last yesterday I was up in LA and I did I'll talk about it, but I did Rob Wiggles podcast and I drove up into their parking lot and I was like looking in this tree and the producer came out. I like Dustin here's the place. What are you doing? I go you got this crazy falcon in there.

[00:13:34]>> He's like what's wrong with him? Yeah.

[00:13:36]And I go, "Yeah, I've been trying to ID it." And, you know, I'm like taking a picture and I think I know what it is based on the birds that I look I looked I'm able to look up, but I can't ID it unless it makes a noise and I don't think it's going to do but because you know they're so stealthy but it's you know birds of prey in this era area you know based on the beak it look I think it's a falcon and he's like okay so >> did you want to come in?

[00:13:58]>> That's what your midlife crisis is is uh and I'm like well yours is podcasting so don't judge me.

[00:14:03]>> Yeah. Well, when you talk about the crests.

[00:14:07]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:08]>> Yeah. And the >> the chests or whatever. Yeah.

[00:14:11]>> You know, I I told you my I I uh you know, I'm going to I it hit me this year. I'm like I'm spring training guy now.

[00:14:20]>> I I'm I'm going and they have m they have music festivals at them. They had what what was it? They had innings fest and you're like who's playing Switchfoot. Perfect.

[00:14:33]Fantastic news.

[00:14:36]Uh so that's mine. Uh you know, speaking of baseball, uh this is so we had I had a fan in Atlanta. Sometimes people will come and give you cards and which is nice. Like people have given me really nice cards like um like some really fun ones. This is like and these are um like this is pretty an insane run of cards this person gave me. So uh like there's just a lot of cool ones here. Like this is uh am I here? This like uh for those this is Kevin Mitchell, Griffy and Buuner. This is like a Randy card. Uh but then like he like uh he also gave me like a a Randy Johnson rookie card.

[00:15:15]>> Oh wow.

[00:15:17]>> Expose. Shout out Expos. Um just like a bunch of the cool like tops like you know kind of like you know flare ones which were fun and uh uh I'm sorry this is why No is funny.

[00:15:31]>> This is why you put these in these uh these cases. Um >> you know because of dunes like me. But there's this is all disorganized you guys. I had a long day yesterday. Uh >> uh but this is a um uh this is a Griffy rookie as well.

[00:15:49]which is insane. Yeah. Yeah. When you look on the back, there's no stats.

[00:15:53]>> Ken made his professional debut at Bellingham in 1987. He played in San Bino and Vermont in 1988, which is just so fun that it says when you look in the back. And then >> wow, there's >> And then there's also um uh I believe this is the rookie Marin Edgar uh rookie. I think he said it was at least. I'm not sure. which I mean it ends up my whole vibe is Edgar. Young Edgar go mustache Edgar.

[00:16:23]>> Yeah.

[00:16:27]>> Amazing.

[00:16:28]>> I didn't know this until right now that my whole uh you know I was just as I age I'm going to a young Edgar Martinez. So yeah, these are awesome. Big so cool.

[00:16:38]While you're there, I want to bring up um do you do you know like do you understand the the Montreal Expo's like logo? Because it's like it's you know >> I've never understood it. It's like a be >> show it. I was going to say show it to Mel real fast cuz it's like it is like retrospectively now when I look back at like '90s baseball like or '9s logos I'm like I'm always like oh my gosh some of these are really good but we don't like they don't get talked about enough. So like >> I did see one recently on the expose.

[00:17:07]>> Oh yeah. And I was like, >> a great logo.

[00:17:09]>> Yeah. And >> I'm wearing a lo I'm wearing an expo shirt in that Looney Tunes video. That's >> so it is basically >> that's why people are mad. Canadian.

[00:17:18]>> Oh, here we go. Hold on. Let me let me share this. I want to I want to I want to get through with Mel to explain this.

[00:17:23]The >> I'm going to have to retire that flannel. Got too many views.

[00:17:26]>> There we go. Okay.

[00:17:27]>> Mhm.

[00:17:27]>> So, basically, it's three letters, but they're not in order.

[00:17:32]>> Cuz when I used to look at it, I'm like, what is that? I don't even understand what this image is. Yeah, >> an M for Montreal and here when you when you >> I see it now.

[00:17:40]>> Yeah. When you extract them by color, they show up. So it's like it's an M right here. The two that look like two L's.

[00:17:46]>> I don't see the M.

[00:17:47]>> Little tail and then out.

[00:17:49]>> So it's like the E is for expose. So it's Montreal Expose Baseball.

[00:17:56]>> Oh wow.

[00:17:58]>> Isn't that something?

[00:17:58]>> That is something.

[00:17:59]>> That's a cool logo. That is so much better done than the Wazu Cougar. Do you know that logo? Pull out the WSU logo.

[00:18:08]Uh that is so >> that's just one that you stare at.

[00:18:11]>> That is one that uh >> so that Cougar, >> there's a WSU in there when you can see WS. But to use >> this to use uh to use uh the children's mantra, the Gen Z mantra, they thought they ate with that.

[00:18:32]Oh man.

[00:18:32]>> I mean the uh you know it was it was a nice thought.

[00:18:36]>> Yeah.

[00:18:36]>> It's an interesting it's an attempt. But the expose one is a work of art.

[00:18:41]>> That's what I mean. Like I didn't I didn't know that and I saw someone break it down. I'm like that's I always used to look at that like I don't understand this.

[00:18:46]>> I still don't think it it's still an awesome logo. I don't think the M is accentuated enough.

[00:18:52]>> Right.

[00:18:53]>> It starts at the beginning of the white.

[00:18:55]You said >> no. The whole thing is an M basically.

[00:18:58]>> Right. Yeah. It's part of like the E how they have like tails like how >> it looks like a D and a B next to each other is what it looks like you know >> now that you know just while we're on that have you have you been able to see like the Hartford Whalers logo. So this is known as one of like the best sports logos >> right >> cuz I see the H in the gray and then the whale and then the whale tail.

[00:19:22]>> So you got Yep. You have the W and the green H is negative and the whale tail like at the top >> like >> it is chef's kiss of a logo.

[00:19:31]>> Yeah, I I see all of it. I just still don't like the way it looks.

[00:19:36]>> Fair enough.

[00:19:37]>> But you know what, Mel? Art is subjective.

[00:19:39]>> That's right.

[00:19:40]>> Well, and logos are very very polarizing.

[00:19:44]>> Yeah, >> they are. Yeah.

[00:19:46]>> Yeah. Sorry, I don't want to expand on that.

[00:19:50]A >> uh someone got you coffee.

[00:19:57]>> Someone got me coffee as well.

[00:19:58]>> Great.

[00:19:59]>> Which also the this will tie in. I I'm excited to try it. Uh this is one of their favorite ones to Dustin and Mel.

[00:20:07]This is from our patrons. So the Walkers N and Jacob. Um Lost Kitchen Blend North Coffee >> roasted in Deer Island, Maine.

[00:20:17]>> Oh my. But where did they see you?

[00:20:21]>> Uh, Birmingham, I believe. Oh, >> okay.

[00:20:24]>> Or Atlanta. I'm not sure. I forget.

[00:20:26]Smells great.

[00:20:27]>> This though, and this is kind of turning into a Remember the '9s episode, and I'm into it. This feels like '9s coffee shop look to me.

[00:20:35]>> You know, >> the the paper bag.

[00:20:37]>> The paper bag, right?

[00:20:38]>> Yeah. Just a printed logo on the paper bag.

[00:20:41]>> Yes. That was a moment. I don't know.

[00:20:44]Now it's more plastic.

[00:20:46]>> I don't know. Well, now it's they make uh there's high science to the coffee bag now >> and that it it's it's all about the seal, you know, like like Starbucks, to their credit, will put a lot of effort to seal in that flavor of that terrible coffee.

[00:21:03]>> Yeah.

[00:21:04]>> You know, it's not going to taste good, but it will be properly sealed, >> but it will smell exactly how it smelled when they packed it.

[00:21:11]>> That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

[00:21:13]Yeah.

[00:21:13]>> No matter what, >> I can get away with the smell. So, but the the taste uh >> but I there's some good coffee shops. I I've had quite a we haven't talked a lot about my cities and tour dates. Um >> but um you know had quite a run uh the Portland shows. Vancouver was great. Um >> you went to Vegas Montana.

[00:21:34]>> I went to Montana. I went a little viral in Montana. That little thing that I did. Uh Spokane. Northwest. It's so hard. The funny thing is so that Looney Tunes bit which we'll talk a little bit like went insane over the weekend. I know here's what I know something has really gone to the next level when I'm getting texts about it >> when people go like my f my dad sent me this or I saw this or this I saw this write up or you know >> and it was from your Portland shows.

[00:22:01]>> It was from those Portland shows. Yeah.

[00:22:03]So that's when you know it's gone into like a different like uh >> level. Exactly. Um, >> I don't remember what made me think of that, but it's not what I wanted to talk about. Um, oh, and yeah, we were in Vegas and then this last weekend I was in Atlanta and I was in uh Birmingham, Alabama, and then yesterday I was in Los Angeles. Oh, I Oh, I have news.

[00:22:25]>> What?

[00:22:26]>> Um, there is good uh I have dairyfree updates.

[00:22:34]>> All right. Um, >> yeah.

[00:22:36]>> And the I understand this is going to sound pretentious and unrelatable the start of this sentence. Please know that the only reason that I have access to the Delta Lounge is because I travel so much. I'm the poorest person in the history of the Delta Lounge. I was the second I walked in there. I still am.

[00:22:54]But I just put up miles that these businessmen can't even imagine.

[00:22:58]>> Yeah.

[00:22:58]>> So, I'm It's not a wealth thing. It's a It's It is a status thing. a Delta status thing.

[00:23:05]>> Yeah.

[00:23:05]>> Uh but they had a dairyfree yogurt >> and I had not dairyfree yogurt hits.

[00:23:10]>> You haven't had yogurt in six years.

[00:23:12]>> Yeah.

[00:23:13]>> Yeah.

[00:23:13]>> No, I dairyfree yogurt whatever it hits and I I used to eat so much yogurt with granola and fruit and I was like, "Oh my god, I got yogurt back."

[00:23:26]>> Huge. Huge. I mean remember uh that was another thing like we were the gener yogurt was pushed pretty heavy on us.

[00:23:35]>> Oh yeah >> as like the health food right?

[00:23:39]>> Yes.

[00:23:39]>> I yo plate yo play was gigantic plate like Yeah. Yep. That was like a huge like commercial. Oo fatree and like you know Yeah. Like the whole >> it was a way for moms to lose weight >> and a thing for moms to put in their kids lunches in the '9s.

[00:23:55]>> It was like that tall skinny carton. Yo play. Yo play said to the mom in the '9s, "I'm the only thing you need.

[00:24:04]>> You're going to lose some weight with me and I'm going to put this in the That was It was that that's how I remember it was like you're playing Special K >> where like >> and Slim Fast >> and Slim Fast and Yeah. Uh >> the '9s.

[00:24:17]>> You you you you used to take a little peach play to school every day.

[00:24:22]>> What school?

[00:24:23]>> High school.

[00:24:25]>> You had a peach play.

[00:24:26]>> I did. I did eat yogurt. Yep. Yeah. Mhm.

[00:24:29]I didn't know how you would have known that. That's why >> I was dating you.

[00:24:33]>> I know, but we didn't go to the same school.

[00:24:34]>> I was dating you. I was in a relationship with you.

[00:24:37]>> You just remember that. Okay.

[00:24:38]>> Yeah.

[00:24:39]>> All right. Yeah, I believe you.

[00:24:40]>> And you had you had little you had a peach yogurt and they had the little toppings in it.

[00:24:45]>> I did like peach.

[00:24:48]>> Oh man.

[00:24:48]>> I just I just kept saying things. You just >> Sorry. I'm sorry.

[00:24:52]>> You didn't sleep well last night. The whole the whole lunch world of that era was that balance of like eat fat free all these things and at the same time we're going to make your food out of >> whatever.

[00:25:03]>> Whatever. Yeah.

[00:25:04]>> Whatever.

[00:25:05]>> Cuz is yogurt actually Go ahead.

[00:25:06]>> Well, because now in I don't know the last 10 years, everyone's like, "Hey, yogurt has a ton of sugar in it."

[00:25:13]>> I was going to say, "Is yogurt actually good for you?"

[00:25:16]>> Well, the Greek yogurt came in and yeah, Andy and his uh milk >> podcast. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, raw yogurt, right?

[00:25:25]>> Yogurt.

[00:25:25]>> Um, yogurt goes the whole gamut. But yeah, in the '9s, like there was nothing healthier than a bagel, a yo plate yogurt, and a bunch of granola.

[00:25:36]>> Yeah, we learned a lot about bagels over the years.

[00:25:39]>> Wash that down with a big glass of Minuteade juice.

[00:25:44]>> Have diabetes at 24.

[00:25:46]>> And then in the 2000s, it was like, you should have half and half, you know? Oh, right.

[00:25:52]>> Atkins.

[00:25:54]>> Oh, yeah. Atkins. Yikes.

[00:25:56]>> Uh, >> yeah.

[00:25:57]>> No carbs.

[00:25:58]>> No carbs, but like like um cream basically.

[00:26:04]>> Yeah.

[00:26:04]>> Um and so it was like non-fat, non-fat, non-fat, sugar, sugar, sugar, >> and then it was like full cream, >> right?

[00:26:12]>> Um and >> that's where we're at now.

[00:26:13]>> Meat.

[00:26:14]>> Yeah.

[00:26:14]>> We're on the full opposite side on that of all the big like >> health majors.

[00:26:21]like that.

[00:26:22]>> Yeah.

[00:26:23]>> Yeah. So, >> yeah, it's it's like definitely um the pendulum has swung.

[00:26:30]>> It's interesting, but yeah, Greek yogurt is huge now.

[00:26:33]>> Yeah, Greek yogurt.

[00:26:34]>> Greek yogurt is going in everything.

[00:26:36]>> Yeah.

[00:26:37]>> Mhm.

[00:26:37]>> I have a I have a moderate take. Ready?

[00:26:40]You ready for a health hot take?

[00:26:42]>> Yeah. If you uh eat a balanced diet with a, you know, a normal amount of calories and don't do anything too excessive, uh you'll probably be fine.

[00:26:57]>> Yeah. No, I remember how dare you.

[00:27:00]>> You don't need raw milk >> or raw meat.

[00:27:04]>> And this is all marketing.

[00:27:05]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I bet you could get most of what your body needs from fruit and vegetables and protein. I bet it's in there. I bet a handful of nuts goes a long way for some omegas.

[00:27:19]>> I remember our youth pastor in high school. He used to joke how eggs were, you know, bad.

[00:27:28]>> Yeah.

[00:27:28]>> And then they got really good.

[00:27:30]>> Yeah.

[00:27:31]>> You know, and it's just very interesting.

[00:27:33]>> Yeah. They were also using that a way to to disprove science. That's uh you know they're like well they used to say this was good and then it's like yeah we got new information man but >> it's like when we found out that there was salt and ketchup >> like what >> I saw someone say last week that you're only supposed to eat meats that eat vegetarian.

[00:27:52]>> I was like that's >> Wow.

[00:27:54]>> That's not true. I saw one uh >> I saw some people responding to because Billy Isish did a a thing about um like how you can't love animals and eat meat and someone had like a a very thoughtful response which is like hey man like uh eating vegetarian and vegan is a pretty enormous financial privilege.

[00:28:23]um like everything's really expensive and a lot of people are in a bad spot.

[00:28:27]So like let's not like let's not get into the moral the the ethics of eating and diet because there are just like larger issues at play before you can get to a lot of things have to happen in your life and your circumstances that determine what's on your plate and having like you getting the nutrients and stuff that you need like fresh vegetables are not cheap >> and they don't and it's not where you get Yeah.

[00:28:55]Exactly.

[00:28:56]to make plant-based food >> and and fresh fruit and vegetable is also not what you're getting uh from the state and it's not what you're getting from uh you know like food kitchens and it's not what you're getting if you're going to the pantry the food pantry in your neighborhood. Like there's a lot at play here before we uh you know before you get to that. So um >> but it it makes sense. It's like a huge industry and >> yeah, >> it makes sense.

[00:29:24]>> I do think and again this is you and I have talked about this and but it does kind of hit this theme that we're on here looking back on what we were told for '90s health food is so funny.

[00:29:38]>> Yeah.

[00:29:38]>> Oh yeah.

[00:29:39]>> I mean >> well Kool-Aid was supposed to be like you're like this has less sugar than than Coke. Well, and then if you had >> and you're like, "Okay."

[00:29:48]>> Well, and that was just the that was just the sugar in the Kool-Aid.

[00:29:53]>> You would add sugar to the Kool-Aid as well, >> right? Exactly. I mean, you choose how much sugar. That's That's what >> No, but that the whole point was like it's better than for you than Coke.

[00:30:04]>> If you have Coca-Cola control, this could be helping you.

[00:30:07]>> Yeah. Yeah.

[00:30:08]>> You're like, okay. And a lot of red dye.

[00:30:11]All red.

[00:30:12]>> Oh my gosh.

[00:30:13]>> Yeah.

[00:30:15]Now, that that that takes us to a conversation around like there's a lot of I saw something that was like it was the pictures of like what happened to our world of color and it was images of like the '9s and the 2000s and everything is colorful like houses, toys, stores, >> X Games logo, >> everything X Xbox logo >> and then on the right was all the new like design and all gray and I was like legit. I was like, "This actually makes me sad."

[00:30:46]>> They they actually call it millennial gray, >> right?

[00:30:49]>> Like the the interior design.

[00:30:51]>> Gray is my favorite color. I feel so symbolic. Yesterday, if I knew a Picasso, I would buy myself a gray guitar and play. Remember the '9s?

[00:31:00]Counting crows.

[00:31:05]>> Oh man.

[00:31:06]>> I By the way, I don't uh >> the color and I missed the D.

[00:31:09]>> Yeah. Take this as somebody who had a >> midlife crisis is is me at the in a corner eating a lot of snack from the '9s >> and a and a kitchen in a chicken themed kitchen.

[00:31:22]>> Oh, I mean my my treat to myself is uh uh Honey Bush's Oats >> cuz that was like the good good cereal when we got Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:35]>> Yeah.

[00:31:36]>> When we would get that and there grains in there. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:40]My dad would get like uh the off-brand one, you know, >> bit bit of oats.

[00:31:45]>> Yeah. Yeah. No, there wasn't even No, it was always some rough name. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:31:49]Yeah. Yeah. It was uh some oats.

[00:31:52]>> Oats and >> Yeah.

[00:31:55]>> Yeah.

[00:31:56]>> All right. Uh but yeah, like that's what we called HBO in our house was the Honey Bunches of Oats. But >> um >> yeah, I don't remember where I was going with that, but it's just a different time. You were talking about you you had talked about uh finding dairy, not dairy for yogurt, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just uh again just of uh the food period, the food pyramid dare. I mean, it's just take it as somebody who went viral this weekend talking about something from the past.

[00:32:28]Like sometimes you look back on your past and you go, gosh, everything was so much better then. And the there is there is some selective memory there. But also what you're doing is you're remembering a time where you didn't know all the world's problems like you do now. The >> it's childhood.

[00:32:47]>> Well, limited scope >> and pre- internet.

[00:32:51]>> Yeah.

[00:32:51]>> You would watch the news.

[00:32:54]>> Yeah.

[00:32:54]>> You know, you would just see what happened or you would read back in the day, you would just read the newspaper and you're like, well, that's what happened today. Now, let's go back to my life, you know, my work. And now it's just like an inundate, you know, like what's the word? Inundated with just like, oh, this terrible thing happened here and this terrible thing. You're just you're just a little more aware of the problems. That's all. And also, you're not a kid, >> which you're uh, you know, >> in 1996 was a good year because it was summer and I had a girlfriend and that's all I needed and I had a bike.

[00:33:33]simpler times. Uh also, um >> was better. I'm kidding.

[00:33:37]>> It was better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um another dairyfree update, and this is uh this is coming from someone who just dairy hurts me. Um there is a dairyfree cheese that exists that tastes good.

[00:33:53]>> Um this is not going to surprise you at all. It's in Silver Lake, >> which is a >> which is >> which is the hipster >> the pretentious neighborhood in Los Angeles, California land.

[00:34:08]>> If you haven't been, now you know >> because I So I had quite a day yesterday. So um I woke up >> tried to do the impossible >> on th and I accomplished it on Thursday.

[00:34:23]Uh, on Thursday last week, I woke up in San Diego. I flew to Atlanta. Nathan Owens picked me up, uh, who opened for me this weekend. Very funny. We drove to Birmingham. Uh, did a show in Birmingham. Went to Seeds Coffee, Seeds Coffee in Birmingham. Very good.

[00:34:41]>> Good.

[00:34:41]>> Yeah. They had the Single Origin Ethiopian uh, on brew, which I was excited about. Yeah, it was their batch brew that day.

[00:34:49]>> Gas station.

[00:34:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Love it.

[00:34:51]>> Yeah. There's one just like that in Indiana. Uh uh this the the real qu it's easy to spot real quick if you just go up to the the whoever's at the counter and you go, "What's your batch brew today?" and they know the answer.

[00:35:04]>> If they know what that means, you're like, I'm in the right spot. And if there's a little menu there, it's great.

[00:35:09]So, um >> do the movie ruiners podcast, which is a fun podcast. We did an episode on Iron Man. So then we drive to Atlanta, which is not do two shows in Atlanta. Wake up, do two shows on Saturday in Atlanta.

[00:35:26]Sunday, wake up, do a pod. Uh I did uh yeah, the hot breath pod. It's like a comedy podcast that this guy Joel Buyers does in and that'll be coming all this will be coming out soon. And then uh do a show Monday morning. So now we're now it's yesterday back in our timeline. Uh, I wake up in Atlanta. Nathan very generously gives me a ride to the airport because as numerous comedians have made this joke when you when you're you're in Alpharetta, it's it's it's a ways outside, you know, for here it would be Escanido you where you're just like I mean that's that's a 45minute hall for me. Yeah. Um, oh, Saturday I went to uh I saw Erin Chuning, former backseater.

[00:36:11]>> Uh, and Beth Pilgrim was there, the Kirkwood, which is like the cool, it's the silver lake of Atlanta. So, I could uh and that was fun. And but anyway, so I wake up, fly to San Diego, get in my car that my van, Aunt Sandy, our 2012 Honda Odyssey, drive it to LA. I do Rob Wles podcast, which is super fun. nice guy. They we connected online and stuff.

[00:36:36]Did the pod and then I drove to Silver like Eliza Slesinger has a um a workout show which is just like you have to do new material. And she starts it off great. She's like you know it's it's it can be she's like it's a Friday night at the comedy store with 300 people. You don't want to be like here are my new ideas you know or you know on her touring and stuff. So I did the workout show there. I got there and I was hungry and they didn't have a ton of options, but they had like some flatbreads and they had like a veggie one and I looked and there was like a vegan mozzarella and I'm like, well, if there's anywhere that's gonna have it, it's going to be Silver Lake.

[00:37:10]>> And sure enough, it was delicious. It was unbelievable. It was very, very good. I wouldn't have known.

[00:37:16]>> Yeah.

[00:37:16]>> So, it exists. I don't it it will you know um spread I'm sure like to San Diego eventually but I don't know that I would find >> it here yet. I don't know.

[00:37:29]>> You just got to get up to Incinus.

[00:37:30]>> Is that where it is?

[00:37:31]>> Yeah. You just got to you just got to get >> into I mean it might be in North Yeah, it might be in North Park as well but >> uh I can't imagine telling you know back to 90s Dustin >> that you're gonna be you're gonna be looking for a dairyfree cheese. Not even a thing that you could >> want to exist. Nobody would uh >> cheese is healthy.

[00:37:50]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Would you like a would you like a air without oxygen?

[00:37:57]>> When I had to go dairyfree, um the one thing I found was a tofoodi. It's like a tofu based cheese.

[00:38:05]>> Okay.

[00:38:05]>> But their cream cheese for is excellent.

[00:38:09]It's the one only thing I'd recommend that I've tried that's like non-dairy >> cheese. Tofoody cream cheese. Yeah.

[00:38:18]>> Yeah.

[00:38:19]>> Good to know.

[00:38:20]>> Do you want to talk about You don't have to give a take on this. Do you want to talk about our our kids high school and phones and the survey and stuff that went out?

[00:38:32]>> Um I don't know that much about it. I haven't read the book.

[00:38:34]>> Well, I can just uh we don't have to even talk just as a general concept.

[00:38:38]>> Yeah. Uh, so when we were kids, the biggest distraction would be in school would be notes, a tomagotchi.

[00:38:47]Um, >> yeah. Your classmates.

[00:38:49]>> Yeah. Your classmates. Yeah. A hat.

[00:38:52]>> Yeah.

[00:38:55]>> A hat was a big >> on your lunch bag.

[00:38:56]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A hat was a big distraction in the night. A kid falling asleep was a classic.

[00:39:02]>> Yeah.

[00:39:03]>> The bell. Yeah.

[00:39:05]>> The intercom. Uh, so toilet paper on the teacher's shoe that would get you through.

[00:39:12]>> Yeah. Yeah. You would be doodling.

[00:39:14]>> Yeah. Any object that you could throw in the ceiling that would stick.

[00:39:18]>> Yeah. A number of gum was a big one.

[00:39:21]>> I think we we used to take the little Did you ever do this? Take a those big uh mechanical pencils and you you take a staple. You take off the tip and you take a staple and bend half the staple and put it in like the little tip that squeezes. You can pull it and like shoot staples.

[00:39:34]>> Oh wow. Oh, no. We never did that one.

[00:39:36]>> Drop something.

[00:39:37]>> Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[00:39:38]>> Always be like little staples in the ceiling.

[00:39:41]>> Yeah. Kids back in the day. My dad's era, they were the the paper airplanes and then the throw the pencil into the ceiling thing.

[00:39:49]>> That was their, you know, we it was different times. Laser pointer.

[00:39:55]>> Um I you could pick off your nail polish.

[00:39:58]>> Wow. Oh. Oh my god. Thank god that you said that. So, um, I have a new stranger danger.

[00:40:05]>> You could push back your cuticles.

[00:40:06]>> Yeah.

[00:40:09]>> Oh, you could do your split ends.

[00:40:11]>> Oh, there you go.

[00:40:12]>> Gosh.

[00:40:12]>> Hair twirling.

[00:40:14]>> This is the beginning of some 80s movie where they're looking around the room and someone is doing some one of these as like the start. Is it Breakfast Club or something like that that has that >> exact definitely has some classroom scenes that are pretty hilarious.

[00:40:29]>> Yeah.

[00:40:30]>> Yeah. But it was it was a mostly you I would just doodle or you know right or >> shake. Okay.

[00:40:37]>> I mean yeah 100%. Yeah.

[00:40:40]>> Zone out.

[00:40:40]>> Get me out of here.

[00:40:41]>> Zone out.

[00:40:45]>> No, I'm just joking.

[00:40:46]>> We all coped in our own way. Uh >> what? Um, yeah. I I I don't even remember how I got through it, but anytime my kids complain about school, I'm like, "Listen, I get it." And it's going to when you're when you like sit here and fantasize about being done, it's going to feel better than you could ever imagine. I still I'm still glad that I don't have to do it. But stranger danger. Okay. So, um, I've seen I've seen people like bite their nails on planes before.

[00:41:18]>> Sure. And that is kind of gross, but also I get it. It can be a tick. It can be a habit.

[00:41:24]>> Yeah.

[00:41:25]>> Um, new worst one that I've seen uh biting somebody else's nails.

[00:41:36]>> What?

[00:41:36]>> Melissa, I was on a flight from >> a flight from Atlanta to San Diego yesterday. Um, there were two people next to me. The wife was in the uh window and then the husband was in the middle and he was mostly just watching Tik Toks and scrolling the whole time.

[00:41:58]And I was like, I wonder if I'm going to show up cuz I got a thing going pretty big right now.

[00:42:02]I'm like watching and I was like, he probably already saw it. I mean, you know, it's it's like 12 million on Facebook or whatever. Um, >> he just feels awkward about that.

[00:42:10]>> Yeah. Yeah. Received enormously well, by the way. Uh um but yeah, the he was scrolling, the wife was sleeping, everything seemed he was like kind of being weird at one point like his like he kind of put his leg like in mine and hit mine. He's like, "I'm so sorry." And I was like he was kind of uh quirky. His wife was like sleeping like the whole flight.

[00:42:33]Everything seemed fine. And then at one point I realized she was like biting his nails and I was like whatever, I don't care. And then I looked over and I realized that was not his hand. His wife was asleep.

[00:42:48]>> Why?

[00:42:49]>> And he grabbed her hand.

[00:42:51]>> I hate this.

[00:42:53]>> And she was wearing her I'm like I was like, am I a sleep mask?

[00:42:57]>> She was wearing a sleep mask. And I'm like, am I witnessing a crime and he was just like nibbling >> what >> her nails? All >> All of them.

[00:43:08]>> All five of them went down. Melissa, this story gets weirder. I know that you think that this is the weirdest that this story and I was like, I can't believe that she doesn't notice this, that this is happening. This is so strange. Everything about this is like just giving me the hibby jibies. I hate this so much. He finishes all five. All five. He like nibbles down and then he he puts her arm back. She reaches up her other hand and gives it to him and he nibbles down the other five.

[00:43:47]>> And now is he doing in the front teeth or the side teeth?

[00:43:50]>> Front teeth.

[00:43:51]>> Oh, >> on record. By far the most uncomfortable stranger danger I think we've had.

[00:43:57]>> It's the craziest weirdest.

[00:43:59]>> She wants him. Like listen.

[00:44:02]>> Oh, good grief. Whatever you got in your relationship is none of my business and I'm not here to judge it. If your partner wants you to nibble down their nails, that's the grossest thing in the world to me. But if whatever you got a thing, who am I to judge?

[00:44:19]>> But like, >> but that's the point. It's none of my business. And you have made this my business. I am in an aisle.

[00:44:27]And I'm like, unfortunately, I want to jump out of this plane, but you're blocking the exit.

[00:44:34]Well, those >> he nibbled down 10 fingers. It took this take this whole situation took 20 minutes. I'm sitting here like trying to get some work done and he's like like it's corn on the cob like nibbling his his fingers.

[00:44:52]>> Oh my gosh. Plus, it's like you're traveling. Those hands are not clean.

[00:44:57]>> NO.

[00:45:00]OH, cannot do this.

[00:45:04]>> Corn on the cob. Like the little mini ones.

[00:45:07]That is the grossest thing in the world.

[00:45:10]I can't believe I had to see it. I was like, I'm not supposed to see this.

[00:45:14]>> Exactly.

[00:45:14]>> I'm not Again, I don't I'm not here.

[00:45:18]People's personal lives is their personal lives. It's none of my business.

[00:45:21]>> It's not a not on a plane.

[00:45:23]>> This is public transportation, man.

[00:45:26]>> Do this in your living room. Yeah, it's my new It's It's my worst stranger danger I've had.

[00:45:32]>> And I've had some weird I think it is.

[00:45:33]>> Okay. What What was he doing with the nails?

[00:45:36]>> Like, is he spinning them out?

[00:45:38]>> I I don't know. I didn't I was trying not to look too close. I had the same thought. I was like, are you Yeah.

[00:45:44]>> He's flicking them on you.

[00:45:46]>> Yeah, he's got a little little spit cup to all the nails he's collected at home.

[00:45:51]He's carving statues out of them being compressed.

[00:45:53]>> Yeah.

[00:45:56]I just it don't know I don't know if this makes any sense but there was an amount I was when she handed him her other hand I had like two equally strong emotions one oh my god this is awful I can't believe that was the first episode of a two-part series here but also I was relieved that She knew it was happening.

[00:46:26]>> Yes.

[00:46:27]>> That this was not against her will, you know, that he was just like, "Yay." And then she wakes >> because Yeah. For urgently I'm like, "You're going to wake her up. Why are you doing that?"

[00:46:37]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:38]>> And she's in on it.

[00:46:39]>> Yeah. Thank God. So she doesn't wake up her sleep mask and she's like again >> again. I TOLD YOU STOP BITING MY NAILS.

[00:46:51]>> She's like, "Can you >> We just went over this.

[00:46:54]You did it again.

[00:47:00]>> Listen, times are tight. Pedicures are expensive.

[00:47:04]>> Manicures.

[00:47:07]>> Oh, anyways, you know, sunflower seed.

[00:47:12]>> Yeah.

[00:47:12]>> Piece of gum. Let's >> We just got to >> be reasonable.

[00:47:16]>> How do you feel about sunflower seeds on a plane?

[00:47:19]>> If you're spitting a cup, I'll be okay with it.

[00:47:21]I I don't love it, but it better >> I Yeah, it's better than nails. Yeah.

[00:47:25]Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:27]>> I would not if somebody was as long as uh It's so funny. I took that as a avid flyer and a lover of sunflower seeds.

[00:47:34]I'd like this is a serious question.

[00:47:36]Let's discuss that.

[00:47:37]>> Yes.

[00:47:38]>> I knew you were like, "No, if you were doing two to three seeds at a time, that's fine." Cuz you can do that quietly and respectfully.

[00:47:46]>> You're like, "Yeah."

[00:47:49]>> Yeah. Yeah. crunch.

[00:47:51]>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As long you >> I'm not going to be happy, but >> it's an ASMR part of it.

[00:47:54]>> I You wouldn't even notice. I would It's sunflower seed. If As long as you don't have a mouthful, it's quieter than a pretzel and that's what they're handing out.

[00:48:03]>> The turn of events would be a non- spitter. It would be someone who's actually just chewing, >> swallowing the seeds. Yeah. Yeah. But if you were like going like, "Uh, >> they give you crunchy snacks."

[00:48:12]>> Yeah. If you had a cheek full, I'd be like, "What are we doing here, guys?

[00:48:17]Get some peach yogurt."

[00:48:19]Yeah.

[00:48:22]>> Believe you forgot.

[00:48:23]>> I forgot.

[00:48:24]>> I remember. Part of the reason I remembered is because we were we were just fresh out of high school when we got married. So, we just continued what you were eating in your high school lunches and you were shut.

[00:48:36]>> Well, I was buying the groceries.

[00:48:38]>> Well, that was before your anxiety disorder got diagnosed. Uh, and uh, you would still go to Costco back in the day and you would get the big thing of yogurts and uh, you know, Fred Meyer before that and such. But >> anyways, our daughter texted and that reminded me of where I was at. So, we were talking about 90 school distractions.

[00:49:00]>> Oh, yeah. Um, so our kids high school is considering going phone free during the day. They already have like the phone pockets uh, at high school. Sorry.

[00:49:11]>> What? Everything okay?

[00:49:13]>> It is okay.

[00:49:14]>> Uh, Gloria text said, "OMG, Dad, you hit 400K on IG. Good job. I'm so proud of you." And then with a crying smile face, when people ask me, "What do your kids think of your career?" That's it. You know what? Keep the phones in school.

[00:49:35]>> Let her let her watch a couple of, you know, videos.

[00:49:38]>> Yeah.

[00:49:40]Um, so they're considering going phone free. They had like a, you know, I don't know, a meeting on Thursday night and then they emailed the parents >> on Friday. So it's a charter school. So they do make a lot of, you know, they don't have to fall under a school district for these kind of things. They can >> implement changes yearbyear. Jonathan Height.

[00:50:02]>> Yeah.

[00:50:02]>> Uh has an has a book out called The Anxious Generation and he has all these studies about phone free schools. Um like our middle school is phone free.

[00:50:12]You just keep it turned off in your backpack.

[00:50:14]>> Right. Right.

[00:50:14]>> Um but he's talking about like passing periods and lunch.

[00:50:19]>> Um and how kids are missing a lot of like interactions with peers and for focus in school. Um, so it's kind of I don't know like the there's still the benefits and the science like with the phone free schools in high school is still all out there and you got to think like college and career, you know, you're going to have to self monitor.

[00:50:44]>> Yeah. Anyways, but we were I remember so distinctly in O2 um or 03 when everyone had iPods >> and we would get out of class in college and everyone would put their headphones in.

[00:51:00]>> Oh yeah.

[00:51:01]>> And start walking.

[00:51:02]>> Oh my god.

[00:51:03]>> Um like a soundtrack, you know, a personal soundtrack.

[00:51:07]>> I couldn't believe it.

[00:51:08]I couldn't believe I would walk around Red Square listening to Mute Math >> at the University of Washington.

[00:51:18]>> University of which that one Mu album goes with typical and all the oh my god >> but it was a very weird it was eerie.

[00:51:30]>> You were >> it was silent. There is a strong argument that >> I I've I've held this theory before and I don't know it's an interesting one to like explore like the rise of selfism and individualism and main character syndrome did come from the fact that in the early 2000s suddenly our little movie had a soundtrack in our ears everywhere I went and riding the us felt like an indie movie cuz you could turn on the soundtrack >> like an MP3 player.

[00:52:07]>> You're like, "No, I'm listening to the Garden State soundtrack." Also a banger.

[00:52:12]>> Yes.

[00:52:12]>> By the way, >> and so I'm in Garden State. Yeah. We suddenly were we had a soundtrack to our lives, you know, and it it made it >> very individualized.

[00:52:24]>> Yeah. Yeah, >> because I I just it's it's just so weird to remember high school where we didn't have that >> and then college where we did.

[00:52:33]>> Yeah.

[00:52:34]>> You know, >> it's wild cuz for me I didn't have an iPod. iPods didn't come out when I was in college.

[00:52:39]>> So it's like I didn't have like I got an iPod when I finally like mid being in the band era and it wasn't >> How old are you, Andy?

[00:52:48]>> 44.

[00:52:48]>> Oh, that's right. You just Yeah. Yeah, you were talking about the turning point because it's like I remember being excited about getting in my car so I could finally listen to music cuz I wasn't going to carry around your CDs.

[00:52:59]>> So it was like >> So your soundtrack was in your car.

[00:53:02]>> Yeah. So it my life was going to and from to college, but then also living like early band life and like just being around and being a young adult and just like all of that. So it's like my memories of of any kind of music >> it's always in transportation, man. So it's like it's you're talking about it.

[00:53:19]I'm like I didn't I'm like wait I didn't have that experience like I remember when I finally got to an iPod. I got it from a friend but it was really just so the car was easier to listen to songs.

[00:53:28]>> Mhm.

[00:53:29]>> And I just remembered out of nowhere I just remembered that like >> I got like almost got like chills thinking about it that like >> three seconds of like you put the CD in and you were waiting for it to start.

[00:53:43]>> Oh yeah.

[00:53:44]>> And then the first note would hit. Like I know a lot of first notes to a lot of albums just because you were like here it comes and then you would start driving because there was something to and I don't want to romanticize it and that like things are better or worse now. But it's part of the reason that I listen to the radio is I like spontaneity. Yeah. I like show me something I haven't heard before. It's part of why it's part of the reason that you should see openers at B. you just go like, "Show me something I don't know."

[00:54:14]Because because Spotify will give you like new releases, but if you put on the DJ, it's still kind of putting stuff that it knows you like. And and like even like the radio feature is not it it it's still giving you things it knows you like, >> whereas radio will just give you an old thing you forgot you loved, >> right?

[00:54:35]>> You know, like you're like, "Oh, man."

[00:54:37]>> You mentioned this earlier. We didn't get too far down the road on it, but like just that Yeah. like the the modern Spotify experiences homogenized the musical experience just suggesting what you like based on bands that sound like it. Yeah.

[00:54:56]>> Oh, I just bought the first Mars Volulta, >> you know, like what am I listening to?

[00:55:01]And suddenly you're like, I do kind of like it cuz you're getting curated by the record store owner.

[00:55:06]>> And it wasn't all for better for the for the record because even the bands that we know and love, a lot of them were pushed as pay for play. Like there's this uh theory that's coming out right now about like um um of like a lot of the things that go viral didn't go viral. They were paid to go viral. Not paid sponsors that they paid influencers to go to those things, post about those things, >> you know, like Bieber's Coachella set or whatever. Like they're they're using those. is like that's how you like Lizo's been going on this rant about right now about she's like I can't get my stuff seen on this algorithm and there it's not as soon as agents and record labels and studios can get involved and they will as soon as they can manipulate the new thing like and and radio DJs were the old version of this >> where they would have like hey >> gatekeepers >> there was the gatekeeper. So, >> it wasn't always as pure as you'd like to think that it was, you know.

[00:56:10]>> I mean, clear I mean, that's Pearl Jam's whole thing, you know, like Clear Channel's involvement in the entire radio programming is why we I mean, it was the same then. That's why radio and Spotify is so similar. People forgot that.

[00:56:20]>> It's like, no, like so much of radio was paid for by large sponsorship and only got played for a lot of bands even though it wasn't direct pola like the DJ, but the station was involved in all kinds of partnerships. I would like to take this moment to give a shout out to Brian Rean who is made him is one of the biggest comedians of all time and did it in one of the most pure ways that like almost never happens. He had a CD we all loved and we would burn it and we would pass it around but it was the true version of organic organic because there was no radio pay for comedians at the time. It was so rare that an artist and that's how you do build this like >> sustain also attached Dane Cook to that too. I think like I feel like we're on the same >> but well Dne got a Comedy Central special >> and and that was and now Dane this is all due respect to Dane don't get me wrong but Dne had a mainstream push Regan did not.

[00:57:14]>> Really? I didn't know that.

[00:57:16]>> Oh yeah.

[00:57:16]>> I mean I know about Cook's comedy special.

[00:57:19]>> Dne was in movies. Dne was on SNL. Dne had a Pixar movie. Dane was in the Plains movie, I think. Like, uh, >> but this was after that's all after >> that's what I'm saying. But yeah, after, don't get me wrong, he blew up on social. Dane was an early adapter to social media, too. I think it was face uh MySpace.

[00:57:38]>> Okay.

[00:57:38]>> He was a very early adapter and he picked he did well on and and and you're the age where the college was like pushing it as well. So, it was it was a mix of him.

[00:57:48]>> Uh, Rean didn't have that and Rean just had Brian Rean live. He just had a CD we all loved and it just you know and he got Comedy Central as well. He was out there but they are different in that regard. But it just all of this like >> uh um they're both Dne is a good opportunity that was growing like that and then people are like how can I make some money off this you know and then he and Dane reached levels that like >> some comics reach now but at the time was like unheard of you know. Yeah. But yeah, it is uh I don't know that's Yeah, go ahead.

[00:58:24]>> I was thinking about how important radio DJs were for a lot of comics.

[00:58:30]>> They were curators. Yeah.

[00:58:31]>> Um in the maybe the 2000s or maybe a little before after that like um you were talking about like the mountain.

[00:58:40]Yeah. Oh foria college radio station.

[00:58:44]>> I mean those were like >> Yeah.

[00:58:46]>> And then the mountain in Seattle or Washington State. the five funny uh >> Gaffigan Gaffan >> and just growing a comic in a market. I mean Gaffigan's a New Yorker.

[00:58:57]>> Yeah.

[00:58:57]>> But he got like all this radio play.

[00:59:00]>> You would turn to 1037 Mountain at 520 for the 520 Funnies and they would just play a comedy album, you know, that was uh but now it's again it's all I mean all these radio stations are owned by like three companies. Oh >> yeah, >> you know, and and then you get online and you'll be like, "Oh, cool. So, the promoter has an in with the theater. Who has an in with the ticket sales? Who has an in with the agency?"

[00:59:26]>> Great. I mean, you and I will see it.

[00:59:28]We'll go, "Oh, why are they playing this theater? Do you really want to know? Do you really want to know why they're playing that theater?" Because their agency has a deal with Live Nation, and that is a Live Nation venue, not a Outback venue or whatever it may be. It is truly as simple.

[00:59:44]>> They got a tour contract.

[00:59:45]>> And they got a tour contract. So >> anyways, take me back to a pre- era where then I hold this up and you're like baseball and Nintendo.

[00:59:55]>> Yeah, I do think this is kind of like a millennial nostalgia.

[00:59:58]>> This is 100% millennial nostalgia. So I'm going to go get some yogurt.

[01:00:05]>> Sorry, not to kill. Were we going somewhere with the phones in school that was different than this result?

[01:00:09]>> It doesn't matter. The episode's over.

[01:00:11]Bye. Right, Todd. Bye.

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