Episode 18. The Bullerby Socks Clue 2 Spoiler

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:11][music] Hello and welcome to episode 18 of the mystery knit along. I'm Neil >> and I'm Shauna. And this week we're what talking about clue two and a bit of clue three maybe of the Bullbee socks.

[00:00:37]>> So what can you what what what have you been your first thoughts of the Bulloughby sock so far?

[00:00:44]>> It's a lot of cables. I mean we knew going in that it was a cabled sock. Uh let's see. I'm trying to think. I'm sure that I have knit cables on socks before but it's been quite a while. And certainly knitting them on small needles, you know, that tight little cramped space. Uh, it's trying on the fingers.

[00:01:03]>> Yeah, my fingertips. These two fingertips on both hands. Both hands.

[00:01:07]Why these ones? I don't know. But especially these.

[00:01:09]>> Yeah, they're sore. Yeah, I've kind of like I enjoy I've enjoyed it and I've not enjoyed it. So, I kind of enjoyed clue um the first sock the first clue two I would say. Then I got overconfident, started doing Clue 2 and just completely messed it up. Had to rip back. Then I was um again I won't go to the digital but again I was at A&E the ER again and then I tried to do a bit more and then I messed it up again so I had to rip it back again. So I've not actually finished clue two of the second sock yet. Yeah. But I I think I'm on track now. And I've kind of at this point after nearly all of that work is done, I've figured out how to stop that edge stitch being >> baggy.

[00:01:57]>> Oh, which one are you talking about?

[00:01:58]>> A bit too late now. Uh well, your Okay.

[00:02:02]Your cables don't seem to have it. And I think it's because you knit a lot more cables than I do. Um because I' I've knitted cables over the years, but it's not been my first go. So, I've only done I don't know maybe four projects with a cable in it. Um, and I always the So, where you've got your cable, your your sort of plat design or your braid design, that very last knit stitch before you go back to a pearl on my knitting, it's always really loose. And that first pearl stitch is always really loose as well. So, I did a load of delving. I remember looking this up years ago as well. And the trick to fixing it for most people, it doesn't work for me, but for most people is when you knit that last knit stitch before you go onto the pearl is to pull out that excess bit of yarn because it's that excess bit of yarn from that transfer to knit to pearl that leaves it all baggy. But my style of knitting, it doesn't fix that problem because I'm quite tight knitting anyway. So, I've tried all sorts of things. So what I started doing was to pearl that first pearl after. It's really hard to explain it without seeing it quite big on the screen. So you do your last knit of the cable and then that first pearl I think I said last pearl that first pearl you do one of two things. Either knit it through the back loop or you knit it the you're not ordinary way but wrap the yarn the other way so it twists it. Now that really >> wrapping it wrapping it the opposite way. Does it twist it or does it just make the piece of yarn shorter?

[00:03:34]>> Uh, well, this might be the reason why it didn't work so well for me. So, that what happened was I I got rid of the um Are we still live? Something strange has happened to my screen.

[00:03:47]>> Mine says we are.

[00:03:49]>> Yeah. Oh, I got pop-up blocker thing come up. Oh, it's okay. [laughter] Yes.

[00:03:52]So, I panicked for a minute then. Yeah.

[00:03:54]So, what was happening? I I did that first stitch um wrapping it the other way. Uh sorry, no, I'm lying. I'm getting confused. Sorry, everyone. I will get to the point. [laughter] I did the first stitch knitting it through the back loop. So, it definitely twisted it.

[00:04:08]And then I knitted the rest of the pearls in the ordinary way, but then it it cured the knit problem that suddenly was much tighter, but then that first pearl was really baggy and horrible. So, it's taken me all this time to realize that what I've got to do is I have to knit all of the pearls. This will only I'll have to figure it out when I come to doing the heel flap again. But in the round, this definitely works for me is to knit all of the pearls wrapping the yarn the wrong way and continue doing that. And it really tightens everything up for the pearl bit and that knit stitch. Now, I can't say it'll work for everyone else because everybody else seems to have managed perfectly fine with the original sort of get around, but I don't. So, >> Lisa says she almost did a regular heel flap, and I'm not going to lie, I would not have blamed you. It's a very intense heel flap. Uh, I'm a little concerned it's not going to be the most comfortable, but, you know, we'll see.

[00:05:06]I've knit unusual heel flaps before and I've never had an issue. So, hopefully.

[00:05:11]Uh, do we want to see what that heel flop is that we're talking about?

[00:05:15]>> Well, I'm a bit ashamed to show mine because [laughter] mine's not great, but um Well, have you started clue three before we go on?

[00:05:23]>> I have one sock that's just through clue two and then I've got the one that I've started clue three on. So, >> so I'm ready when you are. Just take the ball of wool out the middle because it looks weird. I always put the ball of wool in the middle of the sock and it Are you um Yeah. So, >> so clue two was everything after that last horizontal braid. So, all >> proper cable, isn't it?

[00:05:48]>> Wasn't clue two. Yes. Right. Am I getting confused? [laughter] >> No, clue one was was the was the here >> and that bit. So, that was clue one.

[00:06:00]>> So, all of this was two start. Yeah. So, >> that's a big clue.

[00:06:03]>> It is.

[00:06:04]>> It is a big clue. And it was quite that sort of heart shape.

[00:06:10]>> Mhm.

[00:06:10]>> Well, look, it's more like a heart shape that way around, isn't it? That I found quite complicate. You really had to keep your eye on the pattern. You know, if you looked away for a second, you were like, "Oh, where am I now?" And the thing I found really hard was trying to figure out where, you know, because what I did when I was away from home, I've been doing it all on Nick Companion on my iPad, but it didn't synchronize with my phone.

[00:06:35]>> So when I came to be doing it on my phone, I had to work out where I was >> and trying to count the rows was so difficult. But I got there in the end.

[00:06:45]Um, >> yeah. So >> ripping back cables isn't easy either.

[00:06:50]Oh, well, I I'd tked it because I thought if I rip back, I will never find it. So, it took me probably >> about an hour a row, >> which is a long time, I think, just >> because what because I'm so tight as well. The moment you because when it comes to the cable, you have to untwist it. So, >> I was let unraveling those four stitches and then one of them was just disappearing because my knitting was so tight. So, I had to have a tiny needle, the tiniest needle I could find to kind of fix it. I did have to do a bit of lading up and down uh on one because on one of the one by one cables, I completely forgot to do one and it really stuck out, you know, you could really see. It wasn't like you could uh just pretend it wasn't there.

[00:07:36]>> I have a mistake on one of mine, too, and now I'm not finding it. So, that's probably a good [laughter] thing.

[00:07:42]>> Uh but you know where I screwed up? It might be the other sock that I can't show you yet, but I will show you. Um I it was on that pass the third stitch over one and then you do the knit yarn over knit. I forgot to do the yarn over and you know what? I was like, you know what? It's just staying that way. I [laughter] have a special little stitches and I just added in the yarn over and we're calling it good.

[00:08:06]>> Nobody will Yeah. I want to show you like how bad my >> Yeah, I found it.

[00:08:12]>> Oh. Oh, you found it. Yeah.

[00:08:13]>> Yeah. It's on the other sock, but I think I can show you without showing any spoilers. Can you see it's uh >> Let me find it again. Yes, right. It's right by my finger. Right.

[00:08:24]>> Welcome to Show us your mistakes.

[00:08:26]>> Right there.

[00:08:28]>> I can't see that.

[00:08:30]>> Hey, I'm honest.

[00:08:31]>> Well, that's where my Oh, I'm hiding it now. Where's it gone? Uh, so can you see where uh it's really horrible in the pearl stitch in the valley?

[00:08:40]>> Oh, it's too blurry. It's too close. Oh, too close.

[00:08:43]>> There you go.

[00:08:44]>> You might Can you see it there now?

[00:08:46]>> Is it on Well, it's hard to tell. Is it on your right side or the left side?

[00:08:50]>> Just above this fingernail.

[00:08:54]>> Uh, yeah. But I think it'll be fine.

[00:08:57]>> Well, I kept thinking, is it going to, you know, not that I block socks, but is it going to be okay when I wash it and wear it because it's going to >> You think about you, you shove your foot in there, that's blocking it. So, I think it'll be fine. It'll tighten everything up.

[00:09:09]And as you once said to me, who's going to be that low down to see? [laughter] >> Nobody better be that close to my feet.

[00:09:17]>> Well, they don't want to be that close to my feet. I can tell [laughter] you.

[00:09:22]>> Yeah. So, I've got I've been a bit um not disillusioned, but I found it a bit frustrating. And sometimes the pattern um not necessarily the chart, but sometimes the pattern's been a little bit confusing and I've had to really keep reading over it to try and understand it.

[00:09:39]>> Well, I sent you a message this morning.

[00:09:41]I I completely forgot that Neil was still working on clue 2 and I said, "Have you started clue three yet?"

[00:09:46]Because I ran into the same kind of issue where just like, "Am I reading this right?" because the way it's written, I was going back to a chart to knit certain parts of the sock on a row, but the way it said it, it was like like knit in pattern for that. So, I'm like, wait a second, are we not following the chart and it's just like, you know, knits are knits and pearls are pearls because that would also make sense. Uh, but no, if you get to that point and you're confused, go to the chart. You're knitting the chart. And it that became more obvious as I kept reading down because it's like now you'll knit row whatever of the chart. And yeah, so I'm pretty sure I'm doing it correctly.

[00:10:27][laughter] Uh >> yeah, we can all blame Shauna when we all do this now. And then uh [laughter] well I I quickly read a bit of clue three and I thought, "Oh, I can't concentrate on this at the moment because I was doing something else at the same time. I thought I'll I need to actually be knitting this as I decipher it bit by bit because one bit says uh follow row 10 of the chart and then it's like oh you just do that one row >> and then >> that's what I'm talking about. That's where I got confused. So then after that it doesn't say like go back to the chart but you do want to go back to the chart.

[00:11:01]>> That's what I was getting confused about. So >> I have to admit I am sick of that chart.

[00:11:05][laughter] It's like, oh, do something different.

[00:11:10][laughter] >> I'm hoping, and I I had a direct message about this this morning. Uh, somebody else was lamenting that they are over the cables. And my hope is that now that we're getting to where the sole of the foot should hopefully be plain um stockinet, I hope, or something, uh, then that will give us a little bit of a break because I think >> doing it on both sides is a lot. uh you know certainly if you have not started this yet or I know some people have had to rip out and are restarting an option is to do the chart on the front and leave the back of the leg without the chart that is an option. Uh you could also do a plain heel flap if you wanted and then just leave that patterning on the front of the foot. That gives you a rest you know half of a row rest little bit less stressing on the fingers. Um do you use a cable needle for these cables?

[00:11:58]I've not Well, I've been using a um a US0ero DPN.

[00:12:04]>> Okay. But you're something else.

[00:12:07]>> Yeah. I just find that I've tried doing the letting go of the needle. I think I could do that on a sweater. Say if it was DK or worsted weight, I just find it all too fiddly. And I think until I've got that muscle memory of doing it, >> I don't think I can do it on a sock because there's too many times I just can't get that, you know, stick. I don't use another needle for four for four up to four stitches, maybe six, but definitely for four, I can do it without a cable needle. My tip to anyone who wants to try that, and this sock may not be the time to try that, but if you want to try it in the future, my tip to you is, and this is something that took me some learning, is to pinch further down on the stitches than you think. I would pinch right up at the top and then you can't really get your needle in there.

[00:12:52]But if you pinch a bit lower, it still locks everything in place where it's not going to, you know, come down and it gives you more room to get your needle in there. So are wanting to try that.

[00:13:03]>> Yeah.

[00:13:03]>> Yeah. Yeah. Because I think there was something about me pinching close to the top that was actually making one of the stitches >> slip out, you know? I think there was something about my pressure.

[00:13:14]>> Yeah.

[00:13:15]I mean, it's still right there, but it's, you know, just a little bit further down than you think you need to pinch and you're going to be just fine.

[00:13:21]>> I mean, the one by one are fine. I don't need a cable for that. You know, you just [clears throat] you don't there's a way of knitting it, isn't there? But that's what's making it sore on the fingers because you end up stabbing yourself. Not not in a bad way, but you know, you do poke your finger a lot. No, I definitely find myself too with those when I am not using the cable needle uh is that I'm kind of like pushing on the end of the needle to move the stitches off or on or you know all that. So, >> so do you think clue three is going to be as indepth as clue two has been >> or since I have gotten a little bit of a head start and I know a little bit about clue three. Um, I'm not going to go too much into it because we'll show the video first and then I can actually show what I've done on clue 3 and talk a little bit more about it. But, um, it's definitely a bit easier because you are doing less of the cables, but there are now new things to pay attention to. So, I'll I'll leave you with that uh stewing in your brain and maybe we want to watch [laughter] the video now.

[00:14:24]>> Sha, why are we doing this?

[00:14:27]>> Because we love it. [laughter] No, it's uh well just before you put the video on, we were talking Well, we've said it a few times now, but I always like it when you've learned something when you've done one of these mcals and there is is it two stitches or one one of the cable crossings is something I've never done before where you're doing a decrease on the cable itself.

[00:14:48]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:14:49]>> So, I'm quite pleased about that because it's like, you know, I've learned something with that. And overall, I mean, I have to say I've kind of dissed it a little bit today. I do think it looks amazing, you know.

[00:14:59]>> Well, and you just think about once it's a finished sock and it's on your foot and you have your fingers are healed and you no longer have those uh horrible child memories. [laughter] >> Yeah, exactly. It gets better. So, when your feet are all toasty and looking good in cables, you'll forget all about it and we'll sign up for the next one.

[00:15:16]>> Well, that's if we can get these on our feet because I do know um somebody said she couldn't get them on her feet, but I did try. Um, >> I'm pretty confident because this I've I've, you know, had other socks on this blocker and I know that the way it's fitting it should fit my foot and then I'd still have some stretch. So, I think it'll be okay.

[00:15:34]>> When I tried it on is that it's really tight to get over my heel, but once it's over the heel, it's fine. So, so >> an area to watch an area to watch out for now because if it's hard to get over your foot now, if your instep is not high enough, that's only going to make that more difficult.

[00:15:55]>> Yeah.

[00:15:56]>> So, >> yeah. So, I >> and I will I will talk more about my instep when we get to talking about clue three.

[00:16:05]Oh. Uh, Lisa, I do keep thinking about what you said, Shauna, about one stitch at a time. It's true, isn't it? It is true.

[00:16:13]>> Yeah. Because I think a lot of our confus Well, not yours. I don't know because you're pretty good at all this.

[00:16:18]Uh, but a lot of my confusion does come from reading ahead, >> reading too far because you don't have that last bit of instruction in context with what you've just knitted. Not always. That's why I generally I generally do not read ahead in patterns because when I have just like you did with that second sock when you're familiar or familiarish with the pattern it's very easy to skip a step to jump ahead because your brain thinks it knows okay this is the next thing and I do find that on a second sock or like a second sleeve something where you've already done a part that is the same or similar your brain will kind of skip a step or probably the most um difficult part of it, you know, you just remember the easy parts and it's so easy to screw up that second time through.

[00:17:06]>> Yeah. Yeah. It's just not paying attention enough that you would the first time around. Again, like child birth, that second child gets left.

[00:17:13][laughter] How many times do you say you hear mothers saying, you know, they were they treated the first like with cotton wool and the second one, ah, they'll break a leg, they'll be fine.

[00:17:22]>> Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. Who knew knitting was like child birth? Okay. Well, Neil, since [laughter] neither of us have experienced it, I'm not sure that we're qualified to talk about that.

[00:17:33]>> Yeah, it's another great example, isn't it, of people who've never done [laughter] something telling people how to do it. Yeah. I think we'll be being slagged off about this somewhere somewhere now. People [laughter] shouting at the screen. Shall we, before we get ourselves into trouble, shall we show the video then of the >> Yes, let's do that. [laughter] >> Has it worked?

[00:17:54]>> Uh, there it is.

[00:19:01]>> [music] >> They're getting shorter and shorter these videos. I don't think many people have carried on with the sock, have they? Yeah.

[00:19:20]>> Lots of people who started clue one. I did not get a photo for clue two. So, I'm just going to remind you, don't feel bad if you're not up to date. If you have any progress at all from the last one, I'm happy to add that in. It's understandable that we're all not going to be at the same spot. We might not be done. Uh we all have life things getting in the way or frogging or who knows. So, yeah, please share your photos.

[00:19:43]>> Yeah. Yeah. And it doesn't matter if you drop out of anything, you know, we're not going to be upset about it. You know, it's like, you know, thank you for trying if you didn't carry on, you know.

[00:19:51]So, >> before I go any further, I should say we forgot to mention this is the QR code right up here to join our Telegram group. Uh I'm not going to say too much about it, but that might become very important soon. Hint hint hint. Uh maybe not this week, but very soon. Uh keep your eye on that. Join us there. Also, we have an Instagram. Uh, mostly I'm just posting uh reminders of our videos, links to our videos, stuff like that.

[00:20:19]But that way, you'll know every time that we're going to go live because it's possible that we might not always be strictly on Fridays. That's also another hint. [laughter] >> Are we keeping it a mystery, a complete mystery, or are we going to give them any clues this week or not?

[00:20:34]>> Um, maybe not this week, but maybe next week we'll give you a little bit more clues. For now, join all the places.

[00:20:41]You're not going to miss any announcements if you do that. And let's talk about clue three.

[00:20:48]>> I can't say much about this because I've literally just read a little bit, but so >> No, but you might have some thoughts cuz I also have some thoughts. Um, so if you don't want to see any part of clue three, uh, now is your time to look away. I'm not sure how long I'm going to be talking about it. Um, but here we go.

[00:21:05]>> So that's how far I've gotten. Oh, >> so we we do uh we do the heel turn, which is just a real standard heel turn.

[00:21:15]Maybe not the numbers I always use, but it was an easy heel turn. Uh so we do have stocking it on the bottom of the foot, which is nice on the side where I have changed. So I did the amount of rows for the large sock even though I'm only knitting the 64 68. I can't remember what number it was, but I'm knitting the size medium, but I did the heel flap rows for a size large, which meant when it came to pick up the gusset stitches, I was like, how many do I pick up? And then you you might notice there's a second marker here.

[00:21:51]>> Oh, yes.

[00:21:53]>> So, it was a little bit confusing. And again, this is a free pattern, so I can say a little bit more than I probably could if it wasn't free. Uh, but it has you uh pick up. So, this is so hard in this camera. as you pick up so many stitches uh and then place a marker and then yeah. Oh, anyway, I forgot to mention the beginning around moves to the bottom of the heel.

[00:22:17]>> Right.

[00:22:18]>> Am I showing that? There it is. Uh and then you knit so many stitches, you place the marker, then you pick up.

[00:22:25]And so I picked up for the size large, but then on the second portion of the gusset, and it's hard to see cuz I'm already doing decreases, but this section here is pearled. You can see in that gusset.

[00:22:38]>> Oh, just lift your hand up a little bit.

[00:22:39]You were just out of shot there. That's that's it. Yeah.

[00:22:42]>> Yeah. So that it's pearled.

[00:22:45]So every other round I'm decreasing uh right here at this marker. So it it turns from knit to pearl.

[00:22:53]And I think I'm going to run into the issue where I need to decrease out more stitches because I also picked up more than was called for. So, I'm going to have to decrease out more than it calls for. And I think that I'm not going to end up having it uh such a nice line eventually. Like I'll continue to decrease these out till they're gone.

[00:23:12]And then I'll have to fit in some extra decreases. I'm not too worried about that. Um >> no, it'll look like a design feature.

[00:23:19]And again, who's going to see it? you know, it'll just be an extra little line of u knit stitches that are raised a bit, won't it?

[00:23:26]>> And then I'm going to be careful not to lose stitches here, but uh the front of the sock is just continuing >> in that same pattern. You can see at the very very beginning I'm starting the heart chart again.

[00:23:38]>> So, have you finished clue three or are you just >> Oh gosh, no.

[00:23:42]>> No.

[00:23:42]>> Uh I don't know how much more, but actually it's not a whole lot more. I think we're pretty much just finishing out the gusset and then maybe like two rows after the gusset. So, I think I'm going to end up still having more stitches on the sole side than I'm supposed to, >> right?

[00:24:00]>> But I don't want to jump ahead and and guess what's coming next. You know, just keep following that chart because it could change. So, it's possible in clue four I'll have to decrease out a few stitches and that's fine.

[00:24:12]>> Shall I do one of my predictions that never comes true? Sure. [laughter] >> I suspect that [clears throat] the the last bit of the foot, the top of the foot, is going to be a repeat of this of clue one. And I think the reason for that might be to accommodate people's foot >> for size. That would make sense.

[00:24:35]>> Which is why I think it's the toe. It seems weird to have a clue just for a toe.

[00:24:41]>> Unless the toe is very com, you know, very complicated. Well, no, because this is only four clues and this time we're only finishing the gusset.

[00:24:49]>> Ah, okay.

[00:24:49]>> So, we have a lot more foot to go, >> right?

[00:24:52]>> Uh, but what if we could also do this on the top of the foot where it it's just >> Oh, like that pattern forever.

[00:25:02]>> Yeah. Where it's >> it's got the cables, but it's not the heart cable because this could just go on infinite.

[00:25:08]>> Yeah. And you'd be able to figure that out, wouldn't you, yourself length.

[00:25:12]Yeah. Well, it could be any or it could be something completely different. But I just wonder I often wonder when when a designer puts something like this at the top, >> I often think, well, why have they put that there? What, you know, what is it doing for the overall?

[00:25:27]>> Because it's like, why didn't she start this complex pattern right after the ribbon?

[00:25:33]>> Is there a reason for that other than, you know, the design? I don't know. Or maybe it was just [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe. Well, maybe it was a a gentle intro to what we were going to do because by the time you've knitted all of that, you know, maybe people were like, "I'm not giving up giving up now."

[00:25:49]And then we start doing the really complicated bit.

[00:25:52]>> Do you remember the good old days when our biggest complaint was this horizontal [laughter] braid?

[00:25:59]>> Yeah.

[00:26:00][laughter] Yeah.

[00:26:04]>> If I had knit >> Yeah. If I had to knit this sock over again, I would add more here just because I like a taller sock.

[00:26:12]>> Yeah. Yeah. Because at first we thought it was going to be very short, didn't we? The leg. We didn't think um >> Right. Yeah.

[00:26:20]>> Um I love that mosaic shaw. How do I get in? Ah, well, have have you joined um are you in our Telegram group? Because if you're in our Telegram group, we can share all of the details of that. Yeah, that is uh is it Brown Sheep Company or something like that? It's a pattern that they're doing. I believe it's a free pattern. Is that correct?

[00:26:40]>> It is free. Yeah, definitely free.

[00:26:42]>> And you just had to sign up through their email. But because it is free, if you do join our Telegram group, we should have all the clues so far in the group that you could download there.

[00:26:52]Because I don't know, since it's coming by email, if you try to jump in now, I don't know if you'd be able to get clues one and two. And is three out now?

[00:27:00]Maybe. I think three is out on Tuesday or Wednesday, I think.

[00:27:04]>> Okay.

[00:27:04]>> Because it's kind of midweek. It's looking really good, but I have heard >> some rumblings about certain things in the pattern. I don't I don't know whether it's anything bad, but hopefully >> Well, it sounds like there's been some era that wasn't caught. So, some knitts are catching the era. Um, but again, if you join our group, they are talking about that there, too. So, you can read through and spot any mistakes before you get started. Yeah. Ah, so she's gone into Telegram. So, Spiral Tiger Art, if you go into Telegram, and then depending on how you've got it set up, the little groups that we have will either be down the side, along the top, or along the bottom, it will be one of those, excuse me, wherever it is. If you look through them, look for the mosaic shaw group.

[00:27:49]>> Mosaic Magic is what it's called.

[00:27:51]>> Yeah. And then you'll find the the clues in there. You might have to go back a little bit, but you But also, if you don't want to see Oh, no. You've seen them already, haven't I was going to say if you don't want to see the clues, don't go into the spoiler pictures, but I think you've already seen it. So, >> Yep.

[00:28:05]>> Yeah. So, I I didn't ask you how your week's been, so I'll ask you now. How's your week been?

[00:28:11]>> The week has been good. I got like work week was fine. Actually, I only worked three days this week and I managed to get quite a bit done, which is good. Uh, but then yesterday it was already scheduled and everything, but Fiona finally had her vet appointment. She when I first brought her in and the vet took a look at her, she was thinking probably 12 teeth were going to need to be pulled. And she even told me she's like, "That sounds like a lot, but dogs have six in the front here uh and on the top and six on the bottom as well." So, she kind of thought all those were going to have to go. But then, uh after she was done, she ended up only having six pulled. But that poor little girl, she was crying all night last night. Uh up until we put her in our bed to sleep last night and she finally quieted down.

[00:29:02]But you know, it didn't help that her pain meds were liquid, which is good thing because um before when she was on antibiotics, she kept biting the pill pocket in half and it was a capsule and then she'd spit it on the floor and the capsule was cracked open and the powder's going everywhere, so she wasn't getting it. But now that it's liquid, she's also spitting that out, too. So, I'm hoping she's getting most of it in there. Half of it's going on my hand, though.

[00:29:27]>> It's so traumatic, isn't it? Everything to do with vets and pets is traumatic.

[00:29:32]>> Well, you know, my other my other dog, Rudy, who I had to put down two years ago, almost exactly two years ago now, uh, he had some teeth pulled and I don't remember him crying like that, but you know, every dog's different. Every procedure is different. It was probably different teeth. And >> so was it the front? Was it from the front teeth she had to have removed?

[00:29:51]>> I think so. You know, I I opened her mouth just enough to give her the syringe of liquid, but I'm not, you know, really trying to look in there right now because I know it's sore. So, >> um, but she, you know, she ate some soft food this morning, actually quite a bit, and she hadn't eaten in 36 hours. So, I was very happy that she's eating and drinking and doing all the dog things.

[00:30:12]Uh, she's just, you know, really wanting to sleep, which I don't blame her.

[00:30:16]She'll she'll forget about it before you. So, I think that's something to remember, isn't it? Things like that. I had to have um >> well, I've had it with two cats. One of my cats had to have all his teeth out apart from the very very teeny tiny ones.

[00:30:28]>> And the problem with that is it never healed because he had the cat version of HIV. He was an FIV cat >> and I was fostering him for um the um I forgot what it's called now.

[00:30:40]>> Uh we call it the RSPCA. Yours is the NSPCA, is it? or the ASPCA, the animal I think it's ASPCA. Yeah. So I so they paid all the bills thankfully. Um but it because of his FIV the gums never healed so he had to repair. So I felt awful for so long because I thought I put him through that >> and it didn't work you know and it's like >> yeah but you couldn't know that. And that's the thing is I knew going in yesterday because the vet the first vet had refused to do the teeth extraction on Fiona and then this the second vet actually the owner of the the clinic she agreed to do it. And so in the back of my mind I was worried you know is Fiona going to survive and of course I would feel guilty. However I knew she was already in pain. uh the surgery, you know, the teeth extraction was the only chance that she has of having a normal life. And so if I didn't do it, I knew I wouldn't be doing enough to try and have her have a good life. And then if I did do it and she didn't make it, then you know, at least I gave it every attempt.

[00:31:43]>> Um in fact, she will be 16 years old in three days. Exactly. Because actually I know her exact birthday. So >> Fiona, here's your birthday present.

[00:31:53]Have your teeth out. [laughter] Oh, but didn't you have um didn't one of your other dogs have to be seen as well?

[00:32:01]>> Yeah, Olly, we weren't expecting to have to go in, but oh, probably about two weeks ago, he just wasn't acting himself. He clearly was in some kind of pain, but I couldn't tell where. And so brought him in yesterday just cuz I was already there and he had already been improving quite a bit, but just to be on the safe side, had him looked at and uh they said possibly he had or has a slipped disc. And so they gave him some medicine for pain and something just to help it heal faster. And they told me, "Yeah, don't let him jump on the furniture or anything." Like, yeah, good luck at that. He's a four-year-old dog and he's used to doing it and like he's rambunctious when he's feeling good. So there's no way.

[00:32:44]>> Yeah. I I missed because you were telling me about it yesterday and I because I was you were at the vets yesterday and I was at A&E yesterday [laughter] and um so I mean I don't think she'll mind me saying um she was there because she had a really bad back but she had an X-ray done by the GP and um it took them well over two weeks to come back with the X-ray results which if you think about it is awful. And it turned out >> horrible.

[00:33:08]>> I mean, I felt bad because I'd be saying, "Oh, you've just pulled a muscle. You know, it just you've just got to, you know, because that's what happened with me that time when I had a bad back." So, I completely had no sympathy whatsoever. So, I feel really [laughter] bad. Turns out she had a a spine fracture.

[00:33:23]>> Um, no idea how she did it. I think it's just an age thing. I think her bones must be getting more brittle and she probably sneezed or something and, you know, and that did it. So, the poor thing, she's been in agony. So, we we went to Amy. We were there. We were only there 5 hours this time, so it was a good one.

[00:33:40]>> And still long, [laughter] >> but but the sad thing about it all is that there's absolutely nothing they can do. So, all they did was give her a ton of um painkillers and just said, you know, take it easy, but don't stop moving. So, it's a bit like hard to judge what you can and can't do when they say that.

[00:33:57]>> Yeah.

[00:33:57]>> Um but it's only five hours just for nothing in the end.

[00:34:00]>> I can't imagine your mom at her age is doing anything too crazy anyway. Well, she's um she's pretty spritly, you know, apart from now this has happened. She's definitely, you know, >> getting old now, but um until recently she was kind of running about all over the place. So now it's definitely um had an effect. Well, the thing that worried me was that they kept asking her, different nurses kept coming to see her saying, "Do you live on your own? Who's with you? Do you have any help?" And I was thinking, >> "You must move in with your son."

[00:34:30]>> Yeah. [laughter] >> IT'S LIKE, "NO.

[00:34:35]>> [laughter] >> IT'S LIKE, >> WELL, WAY BACK WHEN I had my mom move in with me. Uh, she had fallen and broken her wrist and needed extra help. And so, yeah, I know that it's it's a struggle.

[00:34:47]>> Yeah. As much as you love your family, you don't want them to live with you anymore.

[00:34:50]>> Living with them is a different story.

[00:34:52]And my mom's easy to get along with, but still.

[00:34:55]>> Yeah. So, so I'm trying to think what else has happened. So, my week has been It feels like my week has been really busy, but it hasn't been really um Oh, no. It has been busy because of the mystery. I can't say what that is. I've been doing a lot with that, haven't I?

[00:35:07]Um, so >> have I? [laughter] >> Yeah. Sorry, I'm just completely discounting you there. I Yeah, when you do find out about the mystery, be aware that it was a completely joint effort.

[00:35:18][laughter] Yeah, I think Shauna actually did more work on it than I did in the end.

[00:35:24][laughter] Definitely.

[00:35:24]>> Quite possibly.

[00:35:26]>> Yeah. And >> um Oh, go ahead.

[00:35:28]>> I forgot what I was going to say then.

[00:35:29]Uh oh. I did um my swatch for the >> forgot what it's called.

[00:35:36]>> Olga.

[00:35:37]>> Olga. For the Olga.

[00:35:38]>> Yes. Let's talk about what we've been working on this week.

[00:35:41]>> Yeah. Well, shall we go shall we talk about the Olga because we still have a lot to moan about, don't we, with the >> We do. I mean, yes. Uh if you missed last week's, I will just encourage you and you really want to hear about Olga and me go on a rant. Go back to last week's and watch that because I do rant.

[00:35:56]But a continuation of that rant. Uh so I think I mentioned uh on the live if not I know I told other people but I had written the designer asking for clarification about this gauge which is 16 stitches and 32 rows in 4 in on a 3.5 millimeter needle. I think I said 3.75.

[00:36:16]It's even worse. It's a 3.5. Um she came out. She did not respond to my email.

[00:36:22]She hasn't responded to any comments on Rivalry, but she did put out an email statement and also kind of reposted that email on Instagram and essentially she says, "Yep, this is the gauge. I don't care that anyone else can't get this gauge.

[00:36:37]It's my gauge and y'all can, you know, f off pretty much." Um, that is essentially and a lot of people have said, "Man, that is really condescending." And so it's not just my interpretation of what she said. like other people are saying that too and it's just really unfortunate because I feel like she had such an opportunity with this pattern it's obviously caught a lot of people's interest and you have uh if you go to ravel and you go to the comment section of the pattern I don't know there's 20ome comments and a lot of them are just oh I love this it looks great but when you look at the ones are actually talking about questions in the pattern uh one person asks uh I don't understand what W and T means and it's true in stitch dictionary, stitch guide thing, it doesn't ever tell you. I mean, we know that means wrap and turn, but even me, because I don't use that technique often, I had to go watch a video, how do you do a wrap and turn just to make sure I was doing it correctly. And so, just imagine if you're a newer knitter, you've never done short rows at all. Like, you don't know what that means. There's no, it doesn't say like wrap and turn even. You have to figure that out. And so there's just some things that are not clear enough.

[00:37:51]>> Yeah. Just going back to that gauge thing, we did we both did a bit of independent research using AI. I Well, I did. I used AI and um AI basically said that it was, you know, pretty dubious to be able to get that gauge. But then when we went levels further in um it said that but with that particular yarn it is possible. But then you noticed but AI thought it was a yak yarn and then you clarified well no it's not a yak yarn it's actually made by a yak uh yak is in the name of the company isn't it something like that >> because they have other other yarns that have yak in them but this particular one is just highland wool I believe that is correct >> I think you're right yeah I think so came back and said even still it's still a bit dodgy but it might be possible so I think my issue with the designer is it's Not that she got that gauge cuz I think it is very unlikely anybody else in the world will get that gauge, but I do think she probably did get that gauge with those needles. But I think that she should have said that that particular yarn was special. You know, there was something about >> the interesting the interesting thing about that is that if you look at the pictures of her finished garment, it does not look overly large and airy. You know, it looks like a normal garter stitch fabric. Um, this yarn isn't, you know, super plumping like something else might be. Uh, it is a wool and spun. The yarn that I'm using is Cascade 220 sport nons superw wash. It the only difference between those two yarns is that mine is Peru 100% Peruvian wool. Hers is 100% Highland wool. Uh neither of those is a Downey breed from my understanding. So a Downey I'm not sure. I might have this wrong. I am a spinner also. But like your Tari or your Pworth, those are both yarns that plump like crazy when you wash them. So, it's possible something like that could really transform once it's, you know, washed.

[00:40:01]I don't know. It just it doesn't make any sense.

[00:40:03]>> It's just really frustrating that the because it's about the money at the end of the day for me, you know, because it it ended up costing twice what I thought it would. So, we talked about that last week, didn't we? Um, because what we could have done if we'd have known, we could have ordered just drops air, for example. I think that would have worked great >> and I would have loved that. the same as the original sport weight cost because it was the same price I think at the time. Not now. It's not. Well, it might be on offer now. Um, yeah. So, it's like this has cost me the price of two sweaters to have this cardigan that I'm not even sure I'm going to like. I still don't know whether it's going to look like a house coat, you know? I don't think any designer, I know that they have collaborations where they're working with a specific company and that's the yarn that they're going to recommend, but no designer out there should ever be so narrowminded to think that every single person that ever makes that garment or whatever it is is going to use the suggested yarn.

[00:41:01]>> Yeah. People will say, "I never do." And you have to be able to have it accessible to all financial situations, all accessibility situations. Like this is a um US yarn company, so anyone overseas would have a much difficult more difficult time getting it. There's a good chance this company might quit producing this yarn or go out of business, you know, and so a few years down the road, if it's not available, then what?

[00:41:30]>> Yeah. Yeah. And if that wasn't say on rivalry where people have made comments if that was a printed design or in a book >> Mhm.

[00:41:37]>> that would be like that forever then.

[00:41:38]And you know in 40 years time people would be making the same mistake. I was thinking about um there's a yarn store here technically my local yarn store although it's a you know it's not that local. Um and they do uh knit alongs each year between Christmas and New Year. And the thing they do that I think is quite good, but they're a shop to be fair, is they have the high-end yarn and they have the affordable yarn. And then they have them both knitted up and you can see which is which. And the the affordable one always looks as good, sometimes even better than the expensive one. And I like that they do that because it's kind of not everyone can afford $24 a ske of >> or wants to afford it. That's my thing.

[00:42:21]I probably could. I do not want to like I don't want a $400 sweater, a $600 jacket. [clears throat] >> I'm scared to wear it. Can you imagine?

[00:42:30]>> Exactly.

[00:42:31]>> My life is is not clean enough to be, [laughter] you know, >> no cats and dogs, no food, no moving, no >> no coffee. [laughter] >> Well, I almost ordered Oh god. Every time I see you with coffee, I I get a little like um I almost ordered one p of that yarn and then I thought, you know, just to test and I thought, >> why am I going to spend another 20 odd pound on this this garment? You know, I've already >> I'm just going to go out on a limb and say there is nothing magical about that yarn. Nothing. It's a wool and spun yarn, which tends to be loftier and airier. It's going to take up more space than a wool and spun. I'm Yes, we're sorry. It's a wool and spun if I said that wrong. It's a wool and spun more air. Worsted is your smoother yarns.

[00:43:22]That is the difference.

[00:43:24]>> Well, this is >> I did do some swatching. Yeah, there you go.

[00:43:27]>> And I'm really pleased with it.

[00:43:29]Actually, I did the Steven West turn uh short.

[00:43:33]>> I have never done so many swatches in my whole life.

[00:43:35]>> Yeah, you really went to town, didn't you? You were you were determined to prove that designer wrong. [laughter] >> Yes, that probably is part of it.

[00:43:44]Uh, uh, I don't know which one this is now. This is I think this is probably the one on four and a half millimeter needles because you can see how much you can see behind it. It's very open. So, I blocked this out. I pinned it exactly to 6 in, which is what mine should be. So, I do not like that. I would not wear that for a jacket. Uh, that would not keep me warm.

[00:44:04]Uh, this one here is the same exact stitch number, everything, but it's knit on six millimeter needles. So, you can see the difference. you're not seeing behind it. It's a much more >> I'm I hesitate to say sturdy cuz it's really not. It's very stretchy. Like if I stretch it, it looks the same.

[00:44:21]>> Uh but it's it's a little more dense, I guess.

[00:44:24]>> And then my third swatch >> is with mohare.

[00:44:29]>> So the half with the >> That's >> Oh, isn't it so much better? And it doesn't have like if I stretch it out, it doesn't have that same, >> you know, you're not really seeing behind it. Uh it just opens up a little bit. But yeah, the half here on the blue stitch marker that is on the 6 millimeter needle with the same uh Cascade 220 sport and just a mohare that I had at home. And then the other half I ran out of that mohare and so I used some black, but this half is on a 5mimeter. So ultimately I ended up getting gauge with the mohair on six millimeter needles. That is seven needle sizes larger >> than recommended, which is absurd.

[00:45:13]>> Absurd. That's crazy, isn't it? I mean, I can't remember. Do you remember what needle size I used? I can't remember now. How silly is that not to make a note of the needle size because now I don't.

[00:45:22]>> Six or six and a half.

[00:45:24]>> It was six or six and a half.

[00:45:26]>> I think it might have been six.

[00:45:27]>> I think it was six. It was six. You copied me.

[00:45:30]>> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] Always. Yeah. Cuz I measured it and I was I got all confused, didn't I?

[00:45:35]Because what I think I was getting 17 stitches to the 4 inches, wasn't I? It needs to be 16. And I just couldn't get my head around which needle to use next, whether I should go up or >> was like, I'm going to go down a needle size. I'm like, no. [laughter] >> Yeah, I would have been very sorry, wouldn't I? But I've blocked it now. But I don't know whether this would be classed as an aggressive block or not.

[00:45:58]Um, so I pinned it out.

[00:46:00]>> I pinned it out. Yeah. So I think it is >> Did you stretch it a lot to pin it?

[00:46:06]>> Um I want to say I didn't but I had to put loads of pins in so there was no sort of back.

[00:46:14]>> Yeah, that's probably aggressive, >> right? So I do need to go up a size then I think needle size because the problem is if I if they were all individual squares that'd be fine to block each one and sew them together. But because it's join as you go. I'm not sure how >> before you think about that. Your finished square. Let's see. What size are you doing?

[00:46:34]>> Um I don't think it's the biggest this time. I think it's the second to biggest. So I think my square has to be 9 in by 9 in. I think. I know. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Oh, hang on. Wait.

[00:46:46]>> Yes, it is 9 in by 9 in. Or is it eight?

[00:46:49]might count or you might figure out how big your square is and then kind of do some math to figure out what your finish size would be because I'm guessing you don't want yours to be 24 in of positive ease.

[00:47:00]>> No, no. I I think at my size it looks better when it I don't want it fitted, but I don't want it baggy because it looks like a bag of potatoes. You know what I mean? [laughter] I say it me I look like a bag of potatoes. So, yeah, you you there's a fine line, isn't there? there's a a nice middle ground. There's a Goldilocks area with it. Um, so yeah, that's why I'm definitely not doing the biggest size.

[00:47:25]But I do like this this material. And I'll tell you what, I love I have to say, don't bother doing the wrap and turn people. Learn how to do the Steven West one because it is so much easier.

[00:47:36]All you do, you knit to that point where it says wrap and turn. Turn. Don't wrap and turn. Just turn. Don't slip a stitch because with most short rows, you slip that.

[00:47:46]>> Well, no, that's not true. Oh, you want to knit one more stitch.

[00:47:49]>> Oh, do you? Oh, before you turn.

[00:47:52]>> Right. Oh, I think I just did it. I think I just turned.

[00:47:55]>> It seems It came out all right. Uh, but the trick is not to slip that stitch once you've turned. Just knit it. And then when you resolve them, you find that stitch and you can see where there's an extra pearl bump below. And you just pick that pearl bump up with the stitch and knit it together. And it >> I mean it might be because the the navy is very dark so you can't see.

[00:48:18]>> Oops, too close. But it seems >> No, that looks way better.

[00:48:22]>> The cleanest ones I've ever done >> because this is now I don't know which is the front or the back. And it might not really matter. But that's what I got doing the wrapping turns. And I also resolved the wrapping turns which is what it says to do in the pattern. And I don't like that big. I mean, I don't mind there being a noticeable, I guess, difference in the middle, but I don't like it being so holy.

[00:48:45]>> Yeah, I prefer the Steven West, definitely. Um, >> colors >> I did, but you know, I only did it on the second half of the Mohare one. So, it did not affect that seam cuz the seam I'd already done that part. So, um, this portion is the Steven West one. And that all I did. I just knit one extra stitch because if you think about it, it'd be the stitch that you're going to slip, wrap, slip back. So technically that stitch is involved when you do the wrap and turn, which means you need to knit that one. That's the way I did it. So I'm wondering, does that mean that yours is technically like one row or really two two rows too short? Because if that's the case, you might have gauge.

[00:49:32]Well, what I think I don't know, you might not see now I' blocked it, but what the ends were what I what we call here dogeared.

[00:49:40]>> So before do you know what I mean? When like say when something's been like you stuck out a bit too much like that now.

[00:49:45]>> Well, I think they will because the next triangle's the one that's going to resolve that.

[00:49:52]>> You know what I mean? I think that that's fine, isn't it? Yeah.

[00:49:55]>> Yeah.

[00:49:56]>> So, are we showing our yarn then? So, I've mixed all of mine in a bag. So, this is my mohare and my sport weight.

[00:50:03]They're all not in any particular order.

[00:50:05]I'll just >> My mohare is in San Francisco.

[00:50:09]>> Oh, our pallets are very similar, aren't they?

[00:50:12]>> Yeah.

[00:50:13]>> You got >> That was not on purpose either, but we're both winters, right? Maybe. No one really knows what I am, but I'm pretending to be a soft winter.

[00:50:22]>> Well, I think you might actually be a soft summer. I think you might, which is re where it gets really confusing.

[00:50:29]That's the thing though. I'm like I'm everything. I'm just a chameleon. I'm not anything. You cannot pigeon hole me like that, [laughter] Neil.

[00:50:37]>> I'm gonna try though.

[00:50:39]>> Um yeah, so I'm hoping that I will have something left over from all of this when I've knitted it because I I do have some ideas for other patterns to make with this.

[00:50:50]>> Um >> just in the sport weight yarn, I think I have a thousand grams or close to it. I have way too much yarn for this. I'm mad about it already. [laughter] >> Yeah. And especially when I bet there's, you know, where I had to buy I think I had to buy five navy and I think I had to buy four teal and then everything else was three of each. 50 grams each.

[00:51:11]Um, but I've got a feeling that I'm only going to need two 50 grams and a bit, >> you know. So, I think I'm going to end up with nearly full balls of of SK.

[00:51:19]>> I wouldn't be surprised if we could almost knit a second one. I because again I not only do I not trust her gauge, I do not trust her yarn requirements. Like all of this is just making me doubt everything >> and I was actually thinking >> where will we be if we can get another sweater out of it. [laughter] >> Yeah. Well, we'll just find something else. But um Oh, what was I going to say? Oh, yeah. So, I contemplated knitting on a smaller needle size to kind of densen up that garter, but then I wor and just knit a bigger size, but you know, have the squares.

[00:51:54]Anyway, you see, you you get what I'm saying, right? Smaller gauge, bigger size, >> I think. So, >> it would be like >> it would take more yarn to do that. And so, I was worried like I didn't want to really go outside of the recommended yardage because I don't want to run out of colors. I certainly don't want to buy more yarn for this, but it's just really difficult. Matching socks. My socks.

[00:52:17]This will not make socks. Uh, this is 100%, like I said, 100% Peruvian wool.

[00:52:25]>> Yes.

[00:52:25]>> Yeah. No nylon% marino as well. Mind you, knitting it with mohare might make it okay.

[00:52:32]>> Yeah, this is only a tly. I I wouldn't trust this for socks. If I was going to use this in a last stitch effort, I would definitely make sure that the toe and the heel had a yarn with nylon, but the mohare would help.

[00:52:49]>> Have you got your sunglasses on?

[00:52:51]>> No.

[00:52:52]>> Are you ready to see the next thing I've been working on?

[00:52:54]>> Oh, yeah. Let's see.

[00:52:55]>> I've got no business knitting on this because I've got too many things in progress that I need to finish. But I had Well, I'll tell you the story. I'm not going to show you the shirt this time. I'll show it to you when I've got more of the knitting done. But somebody bought me a shirt recently. They've been they've been to Florida and they got me one of those kind of Hawaiian style shirts and I knew that it wasn't going to fit, but they insisted on getting it anyway, so I knew beforehand. So, I was like dreading it. Anyway, I love the shirt. It's very bright and it's very summery, but it's just a little bit too Well, it's not even that it's too tight.

[00:53:28]The material is very clingy and silky.

[00:53:33]So, it's a bit like, you know, you can see nipples, you can see every lump and bump, [laughter] you know, it's like I just wouldn't feel comfortable going outside with it, you know, cuz I prefer something a bit looser, you know.

[00:53:45]>> Yeah.

[00:53:46]>> So, I thought, right, well, I don't want to say I don't want it because, you know, I do actually like it and I could wear it as long as I had something else.

[00:53:53]So, like a a tank top as we or a vest as you would call it. So, I I looked at the colors because there's this color in it that I thought it's got to be that color. It has to match. So I ordered drops air in that color and are you ready? Right, everybody rate for I don't know people are going to be like he's never going to wear that.

[00:54:11]>> Killed your eyes.

[00:54:12]>> Yeah, get ready. So this is the color. I don't know whether you can see it through the bag. I'll show you um what I've started working on.

[00:54:20]>> That's my color, Neil.

[00:54:22]>> Well, I'm copying Shauna again.

[00:54:24][laughter] >> And I have to say drops air.

[00:54:29]I love this yarn. If I happen to love this stupid jacket, I say stupid. I still really like it. If I love it, I might try one in that drop sair.

[00:54:39]>> So, it's >> I rarely ever renit anything though. So, >> it what it feels like when you knit, it feels like you've knitted with a really nice fingering weight marino and mohare together. That's how it feels. And it's so light.

[00:54:53]>> And um yeah, I absolutely love it. And the color, I mean, people are going to be like, "What the see me?" for I I will knit it. I I will knit it. I will wear it. I know I'll wear it.

[00:55:03]>> That's a [laughter] good color on you. I can tell.

[00:55:05]>> Yeah, it's my It's one of my best colors apparently. Um according to my color analyst, unless she's wanted me to be beaten up in, you know, when I go into Manchester or something. [laughter] But um but I'm not, you know, I'm not afraid of color. You know what I mean?

[00:55:19]I'm quite I don't know. I'm a little >> wearing an all black shirt.

[00:55:24]>> I almost always wear black and navy, honestly. But I do love color and I there the only thing about it is I just think it's gonna be a lot of it, you know, I'm gonna look like this huge big pink thing walking down the street.

[00:55:36][laughter] >> But then I'm going to embrace it. I'm going to just be like, "Yeah, I'm a pink thing walking down the street."

[00:55:42][laughter] >> I got some work done on my pingo now.

[00:55:46]>> Oh, let's see.

[00:55:48]>> So, I cannot remember. I think I had the welts done the last time I showed you on the second half.

[00:55:53]>> You did? Yeah.

[00:55:54]>> So, I finished this and the little side bit there. Oops.

[00:56:00]That that dark piece. And then I just started the next section. And I have to say I went wild and crazy because this side is uh dark and then or it's the medium and then light, medium [laughter] and light. And this one I I went light, medium, light, medium. Oh, >> everybody's gonna know. Everyone's gonna point and laugh.

[00:56:21]>> I did add this one in.

[00:56:23]>> Oh, nice. That's a nice one. It's just a It's a leftover. That's a color called uh I think it's by Knitted Wit and it's called Creepy Crawlers. I think it's supposed to be a Minecraft Minecraft reference, but I knit my father-in-law a pair of socks out of this and I do love this color.

[00:56:38]>> Yeah, that's cool. What I like about the Penguino the way and the way you've done it is for someone who's big, if you're bigger, that those side panels, if you do it black or very very dark, is definitely going to be the illusion of being a bit slimmer. Not I'm not gonna say you won't be sl >> in a big oversized kimono [laughter] type thing.

[00:56:56]>> Well, true, but the one I started knitting was going to be more, you know, fitted me, you know, fitted, that's the right word, but is the right word. Um, but I've not done anything on me Penguino. Um, and what's really weird is I've not heard anything from um my friend whose daughter's having the baby.

[00:57:12]So, I don't, which is unusual, the baby is due in May, so it may already be here and they're just too busy to mention it.

[00:57:20]maybe >> or you know I don't want to start migring just in case it's not good news.

[00:57:25]You know what I mean?

[00:57:27]>> So, [clears throat] but I I will finish it anyway because something like that somebody's always going to be having a baby at some point and I think it's >> probably you know unisex the color well lilac. Yeah. Think >> worst case you throw it on a cat Neil.

[00:57:43][laughter] >> Oh, >> this is my last This is my last whip.

[00:57:48]Aha. Let's >> just for Veronica. And it is Veronica.

[00:57:53]>> Oh, yes. Sorry. Oh, I think we did call her Veronica last week as well, you know.

[00:57:57]>> I don't know. There's a Vanessa in our group, too. So, >> I think we started calling her Veronica and then we started calling her Vanessa because we were doubting that her name was Veronica, but is so sorry, Veronica.

[00:58:08]So, sorry. [laughter] Oh, the only other thing I've got to show, but the I I feel weird showing this because it's never going to look much different at this stage, but is my jaunt tip. Um I have slowed down a bit.

[00:58:24]So, it's uh I don't know where I was at last time, but I've got is that about an inch and a half at the top of the new color?

[00:58:30]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:58:31]>> See, I think that's all I've done since last time. And that was all done in the waiting room of the hospital. Um, >> but it's a this I tell actually that's a really good this is a great uh waiting room project.

[00:58:44]>> Yeah, >> because you don't have to >> once you get going it's mindless.

[00:58:48]>> Yeah. So I'm almost thinking because I think my life now is going to be a lot of waiting rooms. I do. So I think you know I might have when I've done this one I might just always have one in the car just you know a neverending one you know so I've just got something to knit.

[00:59:03]>> Yeah. No, that's how I felt >> even after finishing that one. I was like, I just want to cast on another one. I always want one on the needles and like I'm not normally a renitter. So to me, >> there's something about it.

[00:59:15]>> It's a muscle burrow hat. It's a vanilla pair of socks. It's just so easy, but it looks really >> not.

[00:59:22]>> Yeah. And there's just enough to keep you interested, you know, just that >> every other row doing that different technique. Um yeah, I'm really enjoying it. Um, I if I wasn't doing the socks, I would have just knitted on that and just knitted on it and knitted it and knitted on it. Um, so what I'm at that dangerous point now where I've left it a bit too long happened yesterday when I was at the waiting room. But I've got to keep my hand in it. So I've got to do the lakes. I'm going to have to knit some of the lakes tonight because that is in danger of being left forever. Although I did say at the beginning, didn't I, that I felt that I might lose interest in that because I've done all the interest.

[01:00:00]>> You got to keep going. I finished mine.

[01:00:02]I love it.

[01:00:03]>> Yeah. And it looks >> That being said, if you set set it aside just for a short time and then you get it ready to be done, you know, finish up around the end of summer and then you'll have it for fall, that would be perfect.

[01:00:13]>> Yeah. Well, I picked up my rou yesterday because I I completely forgot about it because I had to block it at my mom's house. So, no cats, you know. Um so, she's had it there and all the neighbors have been coming in and I think I told you we're looking at it, oh, how's it done? You know, like magic. And um yeah, so I got that back and um I really I I wanted to put it on yesterday, but it's too warm at the moment here. So I put it in a plastic bag like like these like these ones cuz that's how I have to store everything. Not for insects and moths. It's more for the cats. And they do try and get in these. I don't know why.

[01:00:49]>> They're still pets, Neil. [laughter] >> Yeah, just bigger, furier, and cuter.

[01:00:55]Yeah, but they are pets. Absolutely.

[01:00:57]You're right.

[01:00:58]>> [laughter] >> I forgot to tell you all. I'm wearing my Mabel sweater by >> Oh, let me make you full size.

[01:01:04]>> Hoili.

[01:01:06]>> Is that just a a knit? What is that? Is that a knit?

[01:01:10]>> Is it a broken rib?

[01:01:11]>> It's been so long since I knit it. It is a I believe it's a half >> fisherman's rib ribbing. So, it's similar to >> similar to >> it's a lot of like it it the motion of it is as all ribbing. So, >> and was it as enjoyable to knit?

[01:01:26]>> No. as the jo [laughter] it was very fast for me because that's all I was working on at the time. Um I think I alternated ske so that might have made it a little more difficult because it's a handdyed yarn. This is not a color you can currently get but it was dyed by Nitty McPley. It's her either called light rose gold I think is the color and I don't know I love it.

[01:01:49]So, >> speaking of Burley, uh if you haven't watched >> not reading beige, >> yeah, if you haven't watched her last episode from Saturday, just gone, go and watch it because she talks about the interview that we did and it was really good what she said. So, just mention that.

[01:02:06]>> Um, well, we've been talking for an hour again. How do we do it >> every time?

[01:02:12][laughter] >> Yeah, I've definitely thought, oh, this week that the amount I've done of the sock, no way we're going to get an hour.

[01:02:18]But [laughter] is there anything we managed to fill it not mentioned?

[01:02:22]>> Uh I don't think so. You know >> what we have not mentioned is that we really don't have anything coming up for a next MCAL. So if anybody has any suggestions, thoughts, let us know. Uh like I hinted to earlier, we do have some plans coming up, but I can't say what or when that's going to start. But uh that will be something in the future.

[01:02:44]>> I'm really excited about it. I [laughter] I don't know why I was like yesterday I was like, "Oh, this is gonna be so good.

[01:02:53]>> Can't say anymore."

[01:02:54]>> Yeah, >> Sean's giving me the daggers. Shut up, Neil. [laughter] >> Don't forget to join our group. You will not miss any uh Yes. reminders. Uh anything going on there. Post your pictures. Also, join us on Instagram.

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[01:03:20]>> We still have to get a few more uh hours in. What do they call it? Viewer hours.

[01:03:24]I can't remember how many that is. So, it still will be a few weeks before we achieve that. We'll definitely get those, but we we're just so close to the numbers and it's like it'd be nice to just get safe over that first hurdle.

[01:03:36]Um, and then we'll be rich on how much do we get when we when we monetize about 4p. [laughter] >> Oh, yeah. It's almost >> It's not much, is it?

[01:03:46]>> It's always funny when people think that, you know, when you do these things and you make money in certain way Patreon or YouTube, they think that you're making loads of money and you're not at all.

[01:03:55]>> No, [clears throat] if you worked it out to hourly, it would be uh, you know.

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[01:04:18]>> Yeah. Uh, we're still Oh, when are we [clears throat] when are you Yeah, we've pretty much done it, but when are you going to actually cast on the Olga or have you already cast it on?

[01:04:28]>> No, because my my mohare isn't here.

[01:04:31]>> Oh, he's still not arrived. If I was in San Francisco with my mohare, I'd be cast on. But that being said, so I'm holding out hope, like very very minor hope that it could possibly arrive tomorrow. Uh but of course we don't get mail on Sunday. So I'm guessing probably more like Monday, Tuesday. Um I should have clue three of the socks done by then. So I'll probably cast on when my yarn gets here. I mean, I could cast on now because I've got the yarn, but is this is, you know, this is something I need to learn better about myself really is that now this amount of time has gone by, that excitement about knitting it is kind of waning. I'm a bit like, >> well, I don't know that it's just time that has gone by. There's been a lot of other things to ruin excitement, but uh we're still going to do it. I'm going to hold you to it. You may be bad [laughter] with yarn. You twisted my arm.

[01:05:25]>> Yeah, it was all my fault this one, wasn't it? It [laughter] was.

[01:05:28]>> Well, actually, the lakes was my fault as well, I think.

[01:05:31]>> Wasn't it?

[01:05:32]>> You're behind. [laughter] >> Well, I'm always, let's face it, I'm always going to be behind. Always. Um, I was thinking the other day, I watched um, uh, Truly Myrtle. Um, and Libby from Truly Myrtle, and she was wearing that Rita vest.

[01:05:49]>> And I'm not kidding. I have knitted that, and I must be that far away from doing the bottom ribbon. And it's done.

[01:05:57]I think I've even weaved in all the ends of the collar and the and I but I don't know why I've just got a block. There's nothing wrong with the pattern. I've just got a block with it and I I'm not sure why. So maybe that is what I should do. I should do that.

[01:06:10]>> You need to pick it up and just actually work on it. Uh I will remind you to use your spin the wheel.

[01:06:16]>> Oh yeah, I've not done that. Oh, and another thing I've not done any spinning. So I did that initial >> Yeah, I haven't either.

[01:06:22]>> Two bobbing things, whatever you call it. not bobbins, but two spindles full of spun yarn. Not very good bit. And I need to ply them together. When I'll do that, I'm not sure, but I will. Probably when it gets really hot, actually, because I bet that's a better project, isn't it? When it's hot spinning.

[01:06:39]>> As long as your hands aren't sweaty.

[01:06:41]>> Oh, right. Does it really affect the >> Yeah, the fiber. It can >> uh >> make it a little more difficult to draft, >> right?

[01:06:51]>> I think we're getting off topic.

[01:06:52][laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah, we've done an hour and six minutes. So, u I think shall we call it a day for today?

[01:06:58]>> Yes. Thank you for joining us everyone.

[01:07:00]We really appreciate you. If you're watching on the replay, we appreciate you. Also, uh leave us a comment down below. Let us know how you're doing on your MCAL and if there's one coming up that you would like to participate in.

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