Fruit trees, particularly peaches, exhibit a natural three-year production cycle where heavy fruiting years are followed by lighter or no-fruit years. This biological pattern means that trees that produce abundant fruit one year will typically produce significantly less the following year. Effective homestead management requires understanding these cycles to plan harvests, anticipate maintenance needs, and manage expectations for fruit production. The cycle is influenced by factors such as fruit load, tree health, and environmental conditions, making it essential for homesteaders to monitor their orchards and adjust care practices accordingly.
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First Tuesday Coffee With John Willi and Nicole SauceAdded:
Welcome folks to the first TR Tuesday coffee shop chat. Wow, mouth's not working. Welcome folks to the first Tuesday coffee chat with John Willis and Nicole. John, >> come on guys.
>> What are we gonna do with Jack because he's a [ __ ] >> Uh, where is Jack?
>> He's on vacation.
>> Does do we know where or we're not saying where or >> I know where, but we're probably not saying where.
>> Okay, got it. I'm not far from where he lives, I don't think.
>> That's cool. It is awesome that he is in a position where he can do that now.
>> Yeah, it is awesome. So, so we were just chatting before the show, guys, about John's food forest, his peaches. So, tell us about your peaches.
>> Um, >> that sounded, didn't it?
>> So, well, the peaches are coming on. The peaches were super heavy last year, and Angie was like, "This is I worked at a peach farm. You take a piece of PVC pipe, you knock off, you know, 50% of the peaches, which we did, and then it I think she even said more. And I'm like, I don't know, that seems like a lot. And then as they ripened up, they were touching the ground. Now, all of the peaches here have a little a borer worm in them. And once that's in there, it starts killing the tree, right? And Tim will cut the tree and he's like, "Look, you can see this tree is dying. It's it's just constricting." And I'm like, "Well, it's still making a ton of fruit, so let's let it go." But if you bite into the peach, there is a larvae in every one of them. So, we cut them, pull that out, and then just freeze them or do whatever. But, I mean, I'll bet we got 20, 30 gallons of peaches last year off of those. Like, they they were so heavy they were pulling the tree to the ground. And as soon as the trees to the ground and there's sugar there, the ants just start going nuts with that.
>> So, you've got you got a short window to pull all that off of there.
>> Yeah. I was really worried the peaches were going to get ripe in the last two weeks cuz they were ripening so fast and then the rain and then they stopped.
>> Is that it does seem like everything is earlier this year than last year for sure, but we have far less peaches because the trees did so well last year.
They're kind of running a normal course right now. Um, but we pulled out to put that 60oot building there. We pulled out like our four highest producing trees.
So, these little ones, they they kind of go uh in three-year cycles, right? If you get a really good cycle, the next year you're going to get nothing and then kind of something the second year.
That's at least that's how our seem to work here for the peaches. So, they're they're looking good, but our figs are are going to be out of control. They're going to be amazing this year. The pears, we've got pears everywhere. We put a lot more pears in last year and year before because the pears did so well once they started putting fruit on.
And uh those are just full. Our cherries came on a couple weeks ago out by the front gate and now we've got apples everywhere. Last year was the first year I think that I ever got to really eat any apples off of these trees here.
>> You don't have the cedar apple rust?
>> We do. Yeah, we do. And we have something that the there's the cedar apple rust because there's so many cedar trees, but then also they'll kind of ripen up and they'll look good and then they just like get black spots on them.
That might be I know there's a spray, but I've always tried to spray nothing on any of these trees.
>> Yeah. Well, I've been wanting to try Lactobacillus for that.
>> I've heard you guys talk about it.
>> Yeah. And I haven't like every year I say I'm going to get out there and spray. And this year's excuse was that my right arm wasn't working and I felt like I needed my right arm. It's starting to work again. Look at this.
Woo.
>> Is it shoulder?
>> It I tore the rotator cuff.
>> Yeah, I got that right right now. We got that going on. Yeah. What are you doing for it?
>> Well, I got a buddy that came here and actually did a cortisone shot. I had this one done a couple years ago.
>> Yeah.
>> And this this one was worse. Like this one was really bad. I couldn't I can only sleep certain ways. I'd wake up 10 times a night.
>> But when he put the cortisone in this one, >> when we walked out and got in the truck, Amanda's like, "How's your shoulder feel?" And I go, "You know what? I put my I couldn't even use it to put my seatelt on." But 10, 15 minutes after that shot, my arm was able to work. And we got home and I'm like, I think I can touch the roof, right? Which you're supposed to completely not do. And then he shot this one and they're like, "How's it feel?" I go, "Not as fast as this one was, but at this point, I still have very little use coming up." And I find myself actually putting my arm in place and I can do things once it's there. But I'm gonna put We're gonna do stem cells in the uh this one here.
Yeah. I wonder if stem cells would help me. I know I'm doing these. I have this pulley thing that pulls my arm up and I do that every day and then it makes it more mobile for the day, but by the end of the day it tells me that it's irritated with me.
>> Does it hurt?
>> Oh yeah.
>> The the Chuck People sent me a a list of because he had rotator cuff surgery, I believe. And uh he sent me a list of like uh PTO things to do. And one of them is just standing uh bend over, put your head on the table and let your arm hang down. Yeah.
>> And do little circles and then let them get larger and then do them the opposite way. And that immediately >> just it it doesn't hurt at all. No matter how bad it hurts, that takes all the pain away. And I find when I go counterclockwise, it sounds like there's gravel in my shoulder. Like you can phys you could be standing three feet from me and hear it. Yeah, >> but they also they also say like rotator cuff surgery is four months in a sling.
So that's not happening.
>> Yeah. No, I have so I have a friend who had rotator cuff who has the same injury I have basically because I got an MRI and his MRI and my MRI are almost identical and he got surgery within two weeks and we're at about the same level of mobility and I didn't get surgery.
I'm just doing like all the comfry sav, all the red light mats, like all of those things and some anti-inflammatory stuff.
>> Yeah, there seems to really be something to the the red light therapy stuff.
>> Yeah. Well, it's cool because you can put a sav on and then I have a I before I left town, I bought this little rechargeable red light mat that just straps on here and that thing was awesome to have because you could just do that anywhere. And so you put the sav on, you do red light and it helps with the circulation and then that means the sav is getting deeper in. So >> sure.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. We've got those meo uh red light panels and I I just have those because that's what Jerry uses at his clinics at Optimize You.
>> He has a whole room you walk in and it you just stand in this it gets everything. And uh I'll put it on when I have an anchor pain >> and it'll run a 15 minute cycle and it has different spectrums that it'll go through >> and I I always forget about it and Amanda's like, "How did how does how does it feel?" I go, "Well, it must work because it doesn't hurt." And it did hurt before I s and and I don't know if it's just me sitting immobile or just sitting still long enough or if it's actually the thing. But I'll take I'll take every, you know, little piece I can get.
>> Anything that works. I was lay I was from the moment I did the injury I was laying on a full body red light mat that we have here and that seemed there I'd be 20 minutes in and all of a sudden there'd be a bump down in pain and an increase in mobility and I was like is it because I'm laying in one place because you know what's happening is I'm hearing my phone in the other room just go bang bang you know I was like I wonder if I just never actually managed to sit still for 15 minutes next to each other >> part of it could just be a not being near this thing.
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's that was great. I was just gone for a week and a half and um I didn't have cell access the whole time and that was kind of nice not having the text messages coming in at all times.
>> That's cool.
>> Yeah.
So, yeah, the red light mats seem to I I know they at least increase circulation.
I think there's more going on there, though.
>> Yeah. Sauna probably helped, too.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Well, swimming. I went in a pool and um I hadn't really done the swim spa since this happened except for to hot like a hot tub and I got in the pool and your your arm weighs less in the pool.
>> That Yeah, I think that's the big part of it.
>> Yeah. And so then I thought, well, I guess I get to get in the swim spot every day and just do a different different than what I had been doing because this motion is not happening on the right side yet.
>> Yeah. Every time I have an injury, I'm like, man, I wish I had a hot tub. And then I start looking at him and then I then I just forget like the pain goes away and I'm like, man, I'm glad I don't have to mess with a hot tub.
>> If you get a hot tub, get ready to mess with your hot tub for you with the hot tub.
>> Yeah. I mean, we we'll be at Costco and I'm like, man, there's an inflatable hot tub right there. I can just put it in the truck right now.
>> Yeah. Well, they do. They have the ones and you can change the water on those fairly easily if you get the smaller ones.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Not a bad deal. They also have. So if you want a sauna, I see them all the time practically new on Facebook Marketplace for not I mean >> I I bet I we have a sauna. We've got a We got a big sauna.
>> Well, so you have it already.
>> Oh, we've had it. Yeah. For years.
>> Yeah.
>> Just not a hot tub.
>> Oh. Oh, Red Light Media's here. Yeah.
DMSO on the rotator cuff. Also really good because she sells that DMSO product. She gave me a roll on one.
Cool. That >> you can just It's really cool. Yeah. So, I don't know. Well, I'm feeling really great about my homestead right now because it looks wonderful and things are mostly under control except for the part where the lawn mower broke last week and it rained. But how do you think it'll be in a month? If you were going to guess, how do you think my my I feel really good about my homestead will be.
>> If you manage it, you'll be fine. But you have like a a window right now where it just rained and we have sun. So, you're gonna be to the point where if if you don't do whatever you're going to do, like here, we haven't mowed in four years, right? And I also don't have animals and we've we've disturbed the earth so much we've got all these taproot plants that are just straight up. If we don't handle that immediately, we're going to have to brush hog it to even get it down.
>> Yeah. Yeah. We're there right now. The blade won't engage on the mower. And I was talking to Tactical this morning and I said, "Do you want me just to get somebody in here to do it?" Because it's going to take another week to figure out what part gets changed on the mower and by that time the grass will be up to my waist.
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot more fight.
>> The sheep can only do so much.
>> It's just like pulling weeds out of this gravel. If you don't get them when they're down, man, it's like we just have we have people here right now pulling weeds and they just stripped out behind all these buildings here. You couldn't walk through there. And then there's always the concern of ticks now too, right? So, we want all of that down, stripped down and uh I'm gonna have to spray like the driveway. I've torched the driveway probably five times now and it it looks wonderful. And then five days later, I'm like, I know I torched right here and I'll even look back to see where I was on the phone and it is. But that heat releases other stuff. So, you get a whole different crop that comes up.
>> Well, you're making biochar.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Plus the those guineies run that pattern. It's like a racetrack. So anywhere they go, they are planting seeds. And now the emus's they must like whatever that is because they have planted that stuff everywhere.
>> Yeah.
>> They just eat what they like and then they walk around. And the emus have like cow poop. It's huge. So that's that's heavy seed load where wherever they poop.
>> Yeah. You have you have have the emus made more emus yet?
>> No. So, we we were told we have two boys, >> but one of them's head is turning really blue >> and it's making a drumming sound.
They're making that that drumming sound.
And it's only supposed the females are supposed to do that. So, we might have a female.
>> Yeah. Well, here's some advice for me.
Sometimes the blades won't engage if your batter is weak or check your PTO fuse. Excellent. I have said that out loud so Tactical can do that. He hadn't even started troubleshooting it yet.
>> Yeah, Jose ms a lot. He's got a lot of mowers. Yeah. Well, it's always helpful to have those tips because, you know, it seems >> I like battery things because they don't break on me as much.
>> Well, they wear they they fail, though.
>> They do. They do.
But I don't know. I have one of those those vacuums, you know, that just does it.
>> The room. I'm on my second battery. Just got ordered for that thing. It's it's lasted almost a decade now.
>> Yeah. Ours lasted a long time, too.
We've got those Roombas upstairs.
>> Yeah. Makes it a lot easier. But >> yeah, they get caught all the time, though. It's like, "Help me."
>> Yeah. You're like, "Where'd it go? I decided to climb the stairs and then I got stuck." What?
>> Yeah.
I don't know. Um, okay. So, here's a question. So you we were talking a little bit before um about the So I just got back from Europe guys and uh I was telling John I was struck like I always have been struck by the cultural difference but the cultural difference I witnessed this time was that I observe more in the US people making things into a drama or victim mentality than I did when I was in Greece and Germany. Um, and I'm not sure if it's about where I was specifically seeing more people who were affluent enough to travel or what the deal is, but the only person I saw making uh a drama out of something where it was like, "Look at me, look at me, I'm having a problem." Was actually American while I was there. It was very disappointing.
>> So, when you when you're home and you see that happening, is it is it in person or is it on social media where we see those things happen more? a little bit of both. I see more more Karenike behavior about which is making something into a drama that shouldn't be a big deal, you know, like I don't know, you didn't give me the right price on my hamburger or whatever at a restaurant.
>> Um I' I've seen more of that happen here or there when somebody would have a problem, they just say, "Hey, I noticed this problem. Can you fix it?" And then the person would fix it.
>> Yeah.
I mean, maybe it it's because it's kind of a hospitality role. You know, they're used to when when that's happening while you were traveling.
>> Those are people who are spending money, right? So, they want to fix that problem and make that problem go away as quickly as possible. When I see that behavior, it's typically on Facebook and it's typically local Facebook groups, right?
We've given everybody the ability to have an opinion and most of the people with the loudest opinion are using fake names and you know now you can post anonymously and all that nonsense. They don't have such a belief in it that they'll sign their name to it, right?
They won't co-sign the [ __ ] but they'll definitely start the [ __ ] >> The Facebook group I manage, if you post anonymously, I I delete your post without reading it.
>> I think that's I think that's how it should be. I mean, if you're gonna if you're going to put that out there >> Yeah. Well, and they won't let you just turn off the capacity to. You used to be able to, but now Facebook says in order to preserve people's safety, they have to be able to post anonymously.
>> Yeah. I mean, we have three questions to get in our group. You have to answer.
And if you you could you could be my my mom and you're not getting in that group if you don't answer the questions. So, we weed them out a little bit. But, they did turn on that AI. We had all of a sudden AI asking its own questions in the >> And I'm like, turn how? And it took a minute to figure out how to turn that off.
>> Yeah, >> it wasn't.
>> Yeah, that was annoying when they did that.
>> Yeah, it wasn't very forth. It wasn't out front how to disable that.
>> Yeah. Well, it would ask stupid. It would identify that you're a prepper group. It would ask the stupidest prepper question, >> right? Yeah. The basic Yeah. The doomsday prepper questions and [ __ ] It was trying.
>> What you stock up on first?
>> Yep.
>> I guess seeds is what I'd stock up on first.
>> Yeah.
I don't know. Knowledge is more important than anything in that sense.
>> Yeah. The more you know, the less you have to have.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. The more you know, the less you have to carry.
>> Yeah. So, you guys getting all the um data center AI data center drama out your way?
>> We are. Yeah. It's it it's there's actually talk of it. We're having meetings at town council and stuff over it.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. They've they've got some area that they wanted to put in that they were trying to lure Blue Oval in for battery production, right? Well, that's all >> that's all tanked, right?
>> Ford has shut down all of that. So, there's a massive Blue Oval battery facility in Clarksville, I guess.
>> Um I seem to recall seeing it as we were driving into Kentucky and that being all shut down. Now it's all I think it's a a Korean outfit that runs all of that. But the question is what are they producing? Where's it going?
And there's talk of trying to put something here in as well. I think I think that the local politicians, you know, they they they stand to gain a lot of money from that when that happens and they can take part of that money for their pet projects, whether it be their personal stuff or whatever. Um I don't see that it benefits anybody I know here. And I definitely don't want it here. I don't I don't want it near me, anywhere near me. But then again, either do all the people in Franklin, right?
So, they've got all the money and all the voice and uh you know, Big and Rich, they got that whole project shut down.
Tim actually went there um to one of those meetings and they had private security like SWAT guys there at those meetings in Franklin.
>> People are really upset about it and it's hard to find good factual information. It's either it uses all the water and is so loud that you'll never be able to hear yourself talk again or it's no problem at all. Those are the two explanations.
I I suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle. But um we've got one here where they want they're going to be power independent so it won't make your rates go up. You know how they're going to do that?
>> H >> nuclear, >> right? Yeah. So they're they actually are stamp remember Three-Mile Island, right? the meltdown of three mile island almost melted down and it's so dangerous that plant can never be on. They've actually they're standing that back up.
They gave that to Microsoft I believe.
Uh Saninopay is being given to one of those because those transmission lines are there. That's the big thing. But you uh you've got municipalities where they're putting data centers and they're like, "Hey, we're using these transmission lines. You guys are going to have to find other power." What? Like what? Like it'd be like having SDG& and SDG& going, "Hey, we don't provide power." Well, where's the power come from then? Like, so I I don't know, man.
It's it's it's a lot of mess. I don't I don't know much about it. Um I know Jack's been going on and on about it and I was, you know, we'll get a chance to sit down and he usually has a perspective where I'm like, "Oh, I didn't look at it that way." I have not spent any time um researching any of I've really spent no time researching anything. I just kind of listen to some stuff during the day and I'm just dealing with stuff that I can immediately affect on my own. If they're going to put a data center here, I mean, I I'll watch what Ken Barry does. Like, if Ken's like, "Hey, we're not doing this," it's probably worthy to show up and, you know, stand beside Ken with that. Man, if I could have gotten Ken on the show today with us real quick, I would have totally because he wrote a really good, >> wellth thoughtout, wellressearched opinion on AI data centers in rural Tennessee specifically. Did you see that last week?
>> I I have not read it.
>> No. Okay. So, everybody who most of the people who were commenting hadn't read what he wrote and so they jumped to the conclusion that he wanted them or didn't want them. and his take was more along the lines of, "Hey, technology is happening. Data centers have to go somewhere." I also agree that I would hate to see Tennessee's prime farmland be all commercialized because it's cheaper. And so, we have to find a balanced way to talk about this and maybe push them towards industrial abandoned industrial centers for example. Um, but then he he was going through the power and the water and all of it. And you know, the solution is either you need to put zoning in so we can stop it or it's going to come in and they can do whatever they want. And he's he's like, we I don't like zoning either and I don't I'm not pushing for zoning.
There's a there's another way you can do it. You can require them to pay for their own infrastructure, including put the power, right? you can't no rate increase for anybody. They have to put in the infrastructure to run their power. And he was talking about alternative ways to make it more balanced, which would then naturally drive them away from some of these cheaper farmland areas because the infrastructure is not there for it yet, >> right?
>> And when you have to pay for all that with your building, it starts you need to have a different way to do it. But my experience with data centers is I have a friend who's been making them for decades now. So I I also know from his perspective they look for place they tend to look for places where they can generate their own power on site and not have to pull it.
>> Well well we have across the river in New Johnsonville you have a power plant that um Biden they blew it up under the Biden administration right they they it was a a coal fired power plant. They blew it up. You've got a couple hundred acres sitting there. You have water. You have power generation from the power plant when they put in the gas turbines right there. I mean, you have the infrastructure and the transmission lines are there. So, why are they trying to put these all these other places? Why don't they put them on their facilities where they blew up those coal fire power plants because there's several of those.
Why aren't they putting those there where they already have that where they had that, right? You already had coal fire power plants there. And you know, the whole blowing the power plant thing up was about legacy. They knew if Trump came back in that he was going to turn coal back on, which he has. And if they are blowing up, it's going to take through all the EPA [ __ ] and bringing everything up to current code.
It's going to take forever to rebuild those facilities. So, I think they had three towers. I don't know how many turbines were there, but I think they're down to two. I I'm I'm not sure. I think it's two turbines that are over there.
But there's there's land massive concrete sitting there where they dropped those things where they could put that thing in.
>> Yeah. And there's things there are abandoned places all over that could use something where things like that are happening, right? And it's but we don't want to do that.
>> Yeah. It's just like it's just like >> something new.
>> It's like the gas bleedoffs on the landfills, right? They're now setting shipping containers there, harvesting the gas, and that's what's running those u those miners in those shipping containers at the dumps. I mean, there's all kinds of [ __ ] they could do that's not in somebody's backyard. But they definitely seem to they they seem to put it right on people's backyards.
>> Yeah, they're doing that with our jail, too. It's really pissing people off here.
>> I bet they are.
>> Yeah, >> I bet it's pissing them off.
>> Yeah. Well, and then they're calling it all of this for me, you know, my conspiracy hat, which is not around here right now, but if I put it on, >> all of these dramas are push the the only answer to solve the problem is zoning.
>> Well, I don't want any damn zoning. I mean, we live right now with no codes and no zoning, >> and they're they're already showing up.
Like the the dude's already showing up.
Hey, I need to measure your building.
Hey, we haven't checked this. It seems like every time they raise property taxes, the property taxes go up considerably. Um, he the dude was out here and I'm like, man, I'm really surprised somebody hasn't physically hurt you. I'm not threatening you, but I'm surprised that you haven't been put in the hospital. Like, you show up people's places and walk around their properties while they're not there. I've heard you open doors and go inside. And he didn't say, "No, I didn't do that." I know for a fact that he did. I go, "Dude, I'd be really I'd be really careful. Like, you should really consider the way you're handling these things." And I was I was I was hot. And he goes, "Well, I mean, we could just fly the drone." I go, "You already flew the damn drone. I know for a fact you've flown the drone. I really don't know what you're here doing."
>> Yeah.
>> And uh he diffused it. And at the end of the conversation, I go, "Hey, you you handled that pretty well because I I am really angry about this." And it's not all at you, but it's everything in general. and you happen to be the bureaucrat that showed up. I go, you know, nobody likes you. Like, there is nothing you do that helps any of these people here whose properties you're taxing. As a matter of fact, the talk of the town is they very much do not like you. Like, you should probably be a little careful, more careful how you do these things.
>> Yeah.
Sam Cook says the data center going on Lawrenceburg, Tennessee will [ __ ] local infrastructure. Same same with McMminville. Yeah, I saw that McMinnville is fighting it and that goes back to if a data center comes in, why are they using the power infrastructure that exists, >> right, Sam?
>> Why aren't they using hydro to generate their own or like the one that wants to come here is going to wants to do its own nuclear which has people upset about nuclear waste here. There's no way that's passing at this point. But, you know, why aren't they figuring out a way to do it or requiring them to pay for that rather than we own these lines, you can't use them anymore?
>> Sam, expand a little bit more on those two. I I'd be curious to hear a little bit more if you know anything more on them. Isn't Lawrenceburg, isn't that where Angie is?
>> Angie and Brett. Yep.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. So, >> so General Electric has a a nuclear power plant that they can move, I think, in a 40 foot shipping container. like it exists. Like they've got those things.
>> Um, and I don't know that we're going to have any say whether they decide to put them in or not, but >> and why aren't they?
>> And the water usage, you can do a closed system. And I know it needs to be cleaned every so often, but again, it doesn't have to use all the water and pollute the world necessarily. In fact, they're motivated not to. Why aren't they putting these in cave systems or mines or you know I've heard all kinds of I don't I don't I'm sure there's some reason when they tell you well we don't put them in mines because of this. You'd be like oh yeah. Um solar is another big one. We've got hundreds of acres of property that was just sold here and there's a couple hundred more coming up and they're putting solar out in farmland all these farmers are selling because they're getting more money um they can make a way more money selling these things this property than farming it right especially now. And the question is, well, why aren't we putting the solar over parking lots, right? Why aren't they covering parking lots with that and using that for generation and battery? Why is it going out into fields? And I would suspect that the answer is that because the farmland is the cheapest land, they can get out rural and they can really throw a little money around and bend local politicians to do whatever they want to do.
>> Yeah. Whereas you try to do that in in in Franklin, you know, you've got you got a lot of money to fight back.
>> Yeah. But solar panels over parking places are a great way to create shade, which keeps the cars from getting as hot and generates power. That's actually something I saw a lot in Greece. So, I was just in Greece and the two things I saw were solar water heaters on people's roofs >> and solar panel parking spots. And in that area, they have an electrical crisis basically. Like if you go there, there's an extra fee every night to pay for the power in your hotel room.
>> In the 80s, we had solar water heaters on the roofs of every house in Tiana.
Well, not every house, but most houses there were big huge like what you have on the back of your deal, but you know, a commercial built uh unit and they would cycle the hot water and they'd heat their pools with it and they would, you know, heat up their water for the water heater. It would run through these things. They were everywhere.
>> I love my my solar water heater. We had to take it off to redo that roof, but it needs to go back on. Like I'm I'm burning summer right now with that thing.
>> Biggest hold up contractors use abandoned commercial areas, contamination, old lead, and I I hear you, man. We do a lot of uh abandoned buildings.
>> Yeah.
>> And luckily for people doing abandoned stuff, the the general consensus of the population that doesn't know is, oh, we could put homeless people there. Well, homeless people just tear [ __ ] up.
Beyond that, it's it's lead paint asbestos. He's absolutely right.
Asbestos in the floor tiles, asbestos in the pipe wrap. So, it costs so much to abate that that these massive buildings sit vacant forever until somebody comes in with real money to do that stuff.
>> Yeah. Submarines have a pretty good design and track record for nuclear.
Exactly. It can be done. I mean, the technology has changed since the 1960s.
>> Yeah. Jack had that dude on of talking about micro plants and stuff.
>> Yeah.
>> Years ago.
>> I mean, they're they're using them all over the place. I think Europe has some nuclear Well, they until Germany was doing pretty well till they turned all that stuff off.
>> Yeah. Solar water heaters are all over Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria, too.
Yeah. A friend of mine was in um like Tasmania or somewhere like that.
Not quite the right country right now.
It doesn't matter. He said it was only solar water heaters. Like no, mine kicks it. It goes into a like a on demand water heater. So it kicks it up all the way if it's not as hot as I want it to be. And Oh, Tanzania. Yeah. So it was he was he was like, "Yeah, first thing in the morning, your shower's not hot.
Later in the day, your shower's hot."
>> So you just move around.
>> You just decide what time of day you want to take that shower or >> Yeah. It's like camping. It's like a like a solar shower.
>> Yeah, they're great. So, looks like Lawrenceburg County Commission low-key reszoned without notifying the public.
Need to vote them out.
>> You seem to be seeing a lot of that happening.
>> Yeah, there's a big there's like a spirit of conflict statewide among county level government and the people.
Like, you hear about in Lawrenburg, I hear it about it in your county, John.
It's going on in my county. It's going on in Humphre County, everywhere.
And part part of what it is is that the local commissioners >> have been used to doing business a certain way without anybody looking at what they're doing. And so they were moving forward as usual and all of the sudden they they hit on some issues that pissed people off >> that they didn't like. A B when you look at how much we've been growing in the rural counties in Tennessee, this conflict is unavoidable.
We've just I mean, how many bodies have you guys added? A ton or not a ton, would you say?
>> Oh, no. We find Yeah, we [ __ ] We've doubled.
>> Yeah, same.
>> Yeah. And where do they come from?
Right. And then they come here because they love the rural area, but then they want to bring all the nonsense, right?
And those they're it's constant. But the the commissioners and such, they've just been able to hide, right? Social media really brought the eyeballs to them. Um, we have a local Facebook group and they started banning people who were really questioning what was going on. So, those guys all started another Facebook group.
It's it's called Hip Camden. If anybody you anybody and the the other problem is anybody can join it, right? When when I do a job posting ad, the people talking the most trash on my post is a chick that runs a dog rescue in the UK. Like, she's not even here. Doesn't live here at all. So, that's that's another issue.
If you know, why do you have a say if you don't live in the area or have somebody that lives here, right? So, there's no control as to who can go in there. But, they started blocking people who were saying things they didn't like.
So they have started their own group which is almost as big as the first group and that's that's like just crazy no man's land they can you can say anything you want there and uh I don't know I don't know there's not one solution but I go back to as much as I don't like to exist the world of politics or policy anymore the one place to exist in the world of politics and policy if you're going to actually put effort in is your local >> Yeah, >> that's your your vote actually can be the difference between something happening at note not we've had five vote spreads here on things.
>> They're uh they're super big on these flock cameras here and we have city and we have county and I'm I'm friendly with our law enforcement. I I like our cops.
Um I I know the sheriff, but the sheriff is very much for the flock cameras and he is very much for no uniform cameras.
They don't have any body cameras on our sheriffs here. And that's that's the question, right? How how in the world can you guys do these flock cameras, but you have no cameras that can be foyed voyed or, you know, have any oversight at all?
>> Does he have an answer for you?
No, I've not asked him personally. I just I I watched this all go down. I watched this happen. And then the cops come in and they're like, "Well, what if your child was kid It's like they're reading the same script." Every one of them says the same [ __ ] >> What if your child was kidnapped?
>> Yeah. What if your child I don't know.
Why don't you guys do some police work?
Let's Let's try that. How did you used to do it, you know?
>> Yeah. Do you guys have the ones that take pictures of you for speeding and whatnot?
>> So, they all do. All of them do. They have plate readers and then you have pole cameras.
>> Yeah. and whether they use the capability or not, right? You have a lot of municipalities where they're, well, we're just using this to fight crime, right? We're just using this if a crime happens, we can track that down. Well, a lot of them all of a sudden out of nowhere, residents have started getting speeding tickets. They're using them now. They just turned that on, right?
They say that uh they they only they don't take video. Well, they did take video. They took come to find out they took video all along. They just never showed it or used the video. Um they don't hold for more than 30 days.
[ __ ] because guys hacked those camera systems and found uh test photos from in the factory of the workers when they built the cameras, right? There is tons of uh groups that have gone out and hacked these cameras. People aren't passwording them, right? Uh law enforcement officers have access to the system and they simply use password 1 2 3 4. So, guys have just logged into all kinds of this [ __ ] and then they come to find out that a bunch of these cameras when they hacked into them, these cameras have been watching uh children's gymnastics and little kids soccer and all kinds of weird [ __ ] And they're like, "These are all dudes that are logged in here. These are all Flock camera system employees. What are these accounts?" Right? And then all of a sudden, overnight all those accounts ghosted and got there. There's there are people more and more and and I don't know if it's because I'm hyper sensitive to it because I'm watching first amendment videos and you know uh first amendment lawyer videos and stuff >> but there are more and more of them where they've arrested this lady had her in jail for you know 60 90 days extradited her to another state that she's never even been to and then when you look at the two pictures because AI right AI said this is the person so they issue arrest warrant well why didn't you guys use your two super tools together being AI and flock and come to the conclusion that she's never been in your state, right? Her vehicle didn't travel.
She had pattern of life for the entire time when this was supposed to have happened while she was supposed to be in I don't remember where it was, what state it was, but she was shopping and doing normal everyday things. And there's there's dozens of these that have popped up over the last couple months that have now gone to trial. They uh the dude a detective shows up, knocks on this lady's door. Uh, do you know why I'm here? No, I have no idea why you're here. Well, did you travel through this area? She's like, yeah, I go through there every day on the way to work.
Well, what about that package you stole off of the porch? It was a $25 Amazon box. And she's like, I didn't steal any package off a porch. Come to find out, she's got a $70,000 SUV. It's a Rivian.
It has onboard camera system that tracks everything like Tesla. And she's like, I can show you where I was. and he's like, "Well, if you're not gonna admit that this is you, we're just going to take this to I mean, there's there's plenty of videos. If you're interested in it, you can easily find these.
>> But there's more and more of these happening, right? So, does the bad outweigh the good? I don't I don't know that it does, but I'm not concerned with any of the good that comes from it benefiting me. I could see the bad I could put myself in that position much easier than I could put myself in the position I don't call cops. I don't call law enforcement. I don't call like it it just doesn't happen.
>> Mhm.
>> I I've never I've never used cops to threaten a neighbor at the end of a gun.
>> It It doesn't happen.
>> Well, it's the same as pulling your gun on your neighbor.
>> That That's never happened either.
>> Yeah.
>> That's never happened either.
>> Well, I mean, you don't have a gun, right?
>> I don't have I mean, I've It's never happened, >> right?
>> I'm around people with gun. Everybody here has guns. Nobody pulls guns. Well, that and people don't equate calling the cops on somebody to pulling a gun on them.
>> No, they don't.
>> So, when you think about what they call the cops for, they're being too loud.
Would you pull a gun on a person for being too loud? No.
>> Right.
>> That's the other way to think about it.
So, I don't know. It's a It's like a once removed gun basically.
>> Yeah. Sam Cook, it does seem that there is an attack on the Amish. Maybe. And again, is it because of social media?
because we can make a big deal about it and then it gets, you know, it gets a lot of publicity. Has it always happened or is it a relatively new thing? Same with the uh all the um auto parts yards burning down, right? The pick a parts and all these places. There seems to be an elevation like a couple years ago with all the chicken houses burning down and the slaughter houses burning down.
Is it that we are burning more of them are burning down or is it that we are hyper sensitive to it because they've raised the ethanol to 15% instead of 10.
It clearly says on the sticker, don't use this in any vehicle older than 2001.
And we know that parts availability are getting rarer and rarer. I see people constantly, hey, I went to pick a part and they didn't have this thing. I went to AutoZone and they didn't have this thing any longer. And then you're right to repair, right, with the newer vehicles. So, is it a real attack that they're trying to make it more difficult for you to use an older vehicle and not be involved in their system or is it that we are just seeing the reporting?
Like yesterday on my live last night, I said, "I would never want a Honda side by side." I've never thought I want a Honda side by side. And when I was listening to videos this morning while I'm pulling orders, every commercial targeting me was Honda side by side from their Pioneer. Yeah.
>> Well, did you buy one?
>> No, I absolutely won't. Yeah. No, it's that's a whole another thing. What about the oil shortage?
>> Um I have been on like people tell me on the lives, you know, what the price of gas is. And I'm like, look, man, if you're listening to me and you're a client of mine, I would hope that gas doesn't affect you. Like I have never rerouted what I'm doing or said, "Oh, I'm going to go and do all my things, all my running around on Friday because I'm going to have to go this place anyways." But I did ask Amanda yesterday when we came back from dinner. She she said what the gas prices were and I said, "Is that higher or lower?" And she's like, "It's lower." We're at like 250 at one place and 26065 at the other places right across the street.
>> So, but diesel, I think diesel's still through the roof. I can't believe Angie's running around in a a big old diesel still.
>> Hello, Angie.
>> Hi, Angie.
>> We were talking about Your ears burning.
We were talking about you earlier.
>> Have you tried her keto kisses?
>> I um I don't know. Angie brings me all kinds of goodies and I just eat them. So I don't I don't know what some of them are.
>> Yeah, they are freeze-dried heavy cream basically that she's put things in and those things are those things are the bomb. Like I've seen a lot of people try them and really like them. Or you can just drop one in your coffee and it's it makes the perfect coffee.
>> That'd be cool. That'd be cool.
>> Yeah. Angie, now you need to bring some to John.
>> She probably has. She's she brings me all kinds of stuff. Yeah.
>> The only I just wish we could have Angie every day.
>> Everybody wishes they could have Angie every day.
>> Yeah.
>> Angie, you heard that here.
>> Yep.
>> Then she'd need to move closer to you, though.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I I That sounds completely reasonable.
>> Yeah.
John will get the next batch this week.
Oh, so you're on her list this week.
>> Right on.
>> For those. Yeah, they're really good.
So, she started shipping them to people all over >> as as she should. She should quietly ship them all over.
>> Exactly. So, Amanda says 389 and 415.
Yeah, I was I was thinking before I haven't looked at gas prices since I got back, but before I left it was it was about 450 near me for gas.
>> Yeah, Jose says he uses 3 to 500 gallons of diesel every weekend.
>> You're not You guys haven't gone electric. How are those electric trucks running? For guys that don't know, tra uh Jose is the American infrastructure that moves things around the world, right? Everything that you have touched, everything within arms reach of you right now moved on a semitr somewhere.
>> Yep. And Jose drives one.
>> And we've been we've been bringing in much more stuff. We've had a lot of trucks here over the last few weeks. A lot of some materials and stuff. and our shipping price and maybe I'm just not cognizant of it because I haven't cared I haven't paid attention but shipping is tripled from what we were paying 2019 2020 time and we were talking about COVID tax and all that nonsense and fuel tax and stuff but shipping is through the roof right now.
>> Oh, it's up.
>> Oh, hell yes it is.
>> Yeah, I know. Because I have pallets of coffee that get to come here.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's it's it's you know 12-500 pounds of coffee on a pallet. And >> is that a semi-truck or is that in a van at that point?
>> Semi-truck.
>> Yeah. So we use we use uh Old Dominion.
>> Our our drivers are awesome. And then >> Esties and then every now and then we'll see a truck that says I think it's Alcoa or something on it. But uh our our drivers are always awesome on point. Our goal when they pull up and be like this is the easiest stop you're going to make. We're going to pull it out with the with the forks and you're going to drive completely around the building.
And yeah, it our drivers are >> Yeah, our drivers are good.
>> Yeah, we meet them. Not at my house.
>> That's the goal.
>> Yeah, I know. Yeah, you I can barely get to your house.
>> Yeah. Well, but you can >> How come there's always two streams from the same page? Uh Jason Nicole is using Streamyard which is a multi-platform and then at because I'm a guest on her show right now I stream it to my YouTube and my Facebook as a guest I can only stream to two platforms whereas when I do it myself I stream to four platforms. So you're probably seeing hers on her channel and you're probably seeing mine on my channel perhaps.
>> Well I'm streaming to your channel as well.
>> Got it. Got it. So, you're streaming to your YouTube and I'm streaming to your YouTube. So, >> does that does that answer the question?
I think I think it does.
>> That's why because there are you can delete one later if you want to.
Red Flyer says a semi-rolling down the cold road is scary to think about. We had one uh roll into the creek once and it took a crane to get it out.
>> Um, so I just always meet them somewhere and then they go straight onto the back of the truck and then we're we're done.
And then we get to do what I call coffee fit because we don't have a forklift yet. That is actually on my short list is something with fork attachments because herking those bags of coffee isn't is not easy.
>> You need a skid steer. Even if it's a a mini skid steer or a stand on or something, you need you need something with tracks out there. You're you're too uneven all over the place. It get so much more done.
>> We're actually actively working on that, John. Yeah, that's a force multiplier.
We use that skid steer >> if not every day, at least five days a week, we use that thing somewhere here.
>> Yeah. Well, and I can see it. We would have used it so much in the last five years.
>> I just did not prioritize it. And now it's it's a much bigger priority.
>> Yeah. We use it to put gym equipment upstairs, couches up, anything we got to move, anything heavy, unloading trucks.
We use it all the time.
>> Yeah, those things are great.
I was never not convinced. That's just I just had some other priorities that are as done as they're going to be for now.
So, yeah. Got the annex built on the roasting shack, so now it's even bigger.
>> Nice.
>> Yeah.
>> What are you going to do with that?
What's What's the purpose of that?
>> Right now, it's coffee bean storage, but I believe that production facilities will plop over there or we will add just a little store area that you can when people tour the homestead, they can come get coffee. Um, and having a place where they could go get the coffee would be great. So, it's not just ask me to bring it to you sort of thing. Yeah. So, >> cool.
>> But things are changing around here. I told you I I got very focused when I was out of town for the last week and a half on where we need to focus our energy.
So, we're going to let some stuff some big stuff go. It's hard. I hate letting stuff go, John.
So, what what are you letting go?
>> Um, well, SRF is going to have a major transition.
>> Okay.
>> Where we're doing SRF in partnership with another event as a takeover day and then it will either fold to a new manager or go away.
>> All right. What's that event you're partnering with?
>> Midwest Preparedness.
>> Nice.
>> Yeah. Awesome. So, it'll be there and we're refunding everybody's tickets who pre pre-bought and just doing a free day um there. So, that's a that's a big change for me because that was taken about 30% of my year.
>> Right on. So, what's the where's that energy going to go?
>> Hol Roast Coffee.
>> Nice. Holos coffee and then more of the events here like the we're starting to do homestead tours to show people who are interested and classes here. So we we should get you out to one of our farm-to-table dinners when we do them.
>> I think you and Amanda would like those.
>> That sounds cool. What um is is holler roast at capacity? Do you is it required? Do you need more equipment? Do you need just freeing up the manh hours?
What what do you need for that?
>> It's both. So, we are not at capacity.
Um, but manh hours, my manh hours has been part of the bottleneck and I've been training additional roers at this point >> all year. Um, >> but then also the roster is going to have to be replaced again, which is just a normal part of doing business. Roers, it's it's it's hard on a device to be heated up to 500 whatever degrees all the time. Um, and so that's about, you know, every time I get a roster, John, it's more money. So it's probably 15,000 to $18,000 will go into that.
>> But then that >> what >> can you sell the other two off?
>> Yes, >> I can sell them off. Um, I need I I actually would sell one because having another roster that I can still, you know, like an old sewing machine, right?
You're like, well, it works. It's not as fast, but that next upgrade isn't a change in how much get roast gets roasted at a time, but I can um dial in the consistency of the roast better, even if I'm not roasting. Because where where we've run into a bottleneck is there are certain coffees that only I can roast ever. And that will always be the case for some of them to get a specific flavor. But with better better measurement tools on the roster, I can, you know, I can get the roasting assistance to really adhere to the roast chart that we have for for some of our blends. So, >> but that that stuff that you roast, that should probably be the case anyways.
Like that should be >> the the black label or the, you know, the gold label or whatever you do, right? That should be that small batch, >> smaller batch.
Yep. And that's that's really I mean like you've known I need to go that direction for five years at least.
>> Well, I told I I thought it was taking your advice.
>> Get get you need to triple this building before they even deliver this thing.
>> Yeah. Well, I believe we may have a location change, too.
>> Got it. So the next bigger building is a location change so that it is inspected as a uh as a manufacturing facility at that point which opens up new markets for us.
>> Nice.
>> And that's that's that cannot be on my homestead because then they can come onto my homestead and I don't want them here.
>> Got it. Got it.
>> So it has to be close to my homestead.
>> So you have to do FDA stuff.
>> I will. Is it FDA or is it Yeah, >> it's it's USDA and FDA.
>> Got it. Yeah, the department of making you sad.
>> Yeah, Hardway Alaska says, "Does coffee expire?" I mean, technically you have to put an expiration date on it, I guess.
Um, what happens with coffee? If it gets exposed to humidity, it will mold and then that would make it go bad. Um, and then the other thing is that the flavor after it's roasted gets weaker over time. So, >> can it So, if you had it in a building with, you know, commercial dehumidifiers, is that also bad for it at a certain point in time? Does it remove anything?
>> So, keeping it at the right level of humidity and temperature that's stable makes it last longer.
>> Got it. Um, keeping it in a package where oxygen can't get to it after it's roasted makes it last longer. The unroasted beans last for like years.
>> Got it.
>> Unless you're doing something like if I had them in just an un uncclimate controlled shed here, they would last less long because in the winter they get really cold, you know, that sort of thing.
>> Got it. But that's part of why we put the annex on was to to have a better environment for how we store the beans so I can store more beans so I can source them in bulk so that they cost less.
>> Nice.
>> And then the coffee markets are like very volatile the last two years.
>> I have to step out for just a minute.
>> Yeah. So anyway, so this is the time guys when you get to ask me questions and I get to answer them. And I'm going to start with uh thanking Jason for the looks like a $5 super chat. I assume that went to John. And then Carrie, I don't Carrie, I saw your question and um I also saw that you texted me while I was out of the country. So, I will totally respond to your text later today. Um how are the plants and trees doing down there? We're about to finally put in our peppers and tomatoes this week.
Damn zone 3B. Well, I mean, a Carrie, you know, you're welcome to move to a different zone if you want to. All of us would love to have you. We'd all fight over you. Um, but the the plants and trees this year are doing really well for me. My garden is a little slower.
John said stuff has been ripening faster, but we both are loaded with peaches on the peach trees and they up until I left, which was around May 19th, 18th around there, I thought my peaches were going to ripen within a week or two. And so I hired somebody to help take care of the homestead while I was gone. And I was like, "Look at the peaches every day and pick them when they get ripe." And then it rained every single day I was out of town. And the peaches stopped getting any riper.
They're like literally where they were when I left. So that's that's how my plants and trees. So Kiri asked a question here, John, and she said, "How are the plants and trees doing down there? We're about finally getting our peppers in right now."
>> Our trees are awesome. I mean, they're amazing. They're huge. Uh there's tons and tons of fruit on them. Tim has been out here, I don't know, every few weeks and puts a few hours in there. Some days he's here the whole I'm lucky that he will come here and shoot his content, which means he's working on my trees. So everything is just huge. And then running so much equipment through the upper area with the tracks and then it raining and so much mud, so much uh we've disturbed the ground so much.
There's just tons of plants growing that we don't want there. And then I have had the sheep all out back so nothing's eating up front. So I think we're going to run through and mow it so that it's like you can't even walk through part of it right now and kind of get it under control and then figure out what we're going to do with it from there.
>> Cool. Did I tell you I learned how to like process sheep by slitting their throats?
>> You did not.
>> Yeah, I took this really great class about that. Speaking of processing your sheep, um, and it's it's it's cutting their throats instead of shooting them, which allows them to bleed out completely. Totally different processing experience.
>> It was amazing.
>> So So where did you learn that?
>> At Carries. He did a class.
Yeah. And we're about to have to process at least five and maybe 10 of ours due to a a disease they got. Um, and that's that's how we're going to do it. So, is that like the halal method or is that that's how like the Muslims do it that way, right? They slice the throat and drain the blood out.
>> Yeah, similar similar. We the way we were taught was to cut ear to ear and the esophagus and hold the the head back so they can still breathe.
>> Um, so that you don't have any risk of not having gotten the cor gotten the corateed artery.
>> Got it.
>> And we were taught by a veterinarian.
She's like, "These are the only nerves.
The only thing they feel is the initial cut and then they feel nothing else." It was really an interesting class because she knew so much about the um the anatomy of the animal.
>> Cool.
>> Yeah, I'm kind of excited about that.
Okay. As someone who just bought a house and land, where can I start looking for different grants and does the government have the ability to come on the property? There are so many grants and usually you're going to have if you're getting them from the government, they do. That's part of what you're signing up for if you do the the was NRCA or whatever grants.
>> Yeah. You'll hear people talk about the NR NRCS grants for high tunnels, right?
>> Yeah.
>> But but what they don't tell you, well, a lot of people making shorts especially don't tell you is you still have to buy the high tunnel. They just reimburse you for it, but under their rules, it can't be heated. Um it can't you have to grow in the ground, you can't grow in beds.
There's a lot of things to it, right? So like the way we do it here would never work. Um, I know a dude that was in Lebanon, uh, prior service Marine, and NRCS paid for most of the fencing for, he's the guy that came and got all the goats from us when he came on here, and they were lassoing the goats. But NRCS paid for most of his fencing for his property. So, there's there's a lot of stuff available. I mean, if it's you, Skylow, I would just, you know, take a boot and stand at a four-way intersection and just uh ask for money.
I didn't see that with Skylow asking the question.
>> That That's Jen's account. I banned him on my account so many times that he posts from her account.
>> Oh, I gotcha. We got our coffee from Yankee Prepper for about 15 years. He's got a YouTube channel, but he went dark a few months ago. We used to buy a Guatemalan city roast from him and we can't find anything comparable.
>> Well, this is a great opportunity to try Hollow Roast. She's got all kinds of different things. She has a reoccurring monthly thing where she'll send it to you. We had her come out and uh she brought 13 or so different coffees and didn't tell us any. And there was about six of us at the table and we just tasted blind and then kind of wrote down our notes and most of we all agreed on the exact same thing when you ended up roasting our first roast and every one of us picked the same thing out of there. But the thing with Nicole's, I don't know about Yankee Prepper, um, but Nicole, when you order that, it gets roasted. It's not sitting in bags on the shelf where she pulls it off. Like that stuff is roasted the like a day before it goes in the mail to you.
>> Yeah. And I roast right now two to three times a week. So it doesn't ship the same day if you don't happen to order it in time for that day. because I used to do it every single day and I realized if I if I concentrate my time I do a better job on it and it's also better for my personal schedule. But I probably have if it's Nicaragua I might have some or Guatemala. You want Guatemala? There's probably Guatemala on my site right now.
So you could try it. A city roast would be a darker roast. I would try the dark first and if that wasn't dark enough do the seagler.
Many of dealers will take the NR NRCS reimbursement letter as credit and won't make you pay until they pay. That's that's cool.
>> That's awesome. And you've got there's there's a lot of companies here in Tennessee, Skylow. Um, >> who makes my high tunnel? I just had it on the tip of my tongue. Why can't I >> Friends?
>> Farmer Farmers Friends. Uh, awesome company. Local. They're actually in Angie's Town, I believe. Uh where Brle lives in Crossville, you have Grower Solution, which is a huge um high tunnel uh netting, anything you're going to do for smallcale farming like that. They have all that stuff and they got a great catalog and website and stuff. There's a lot of people really close here. So even even if you didn't have all the grants, you could go pick that locally and save on a lot of shipping on that stuff. But like when we ordered our growers, our farmer's friend uh rowhouse, like they just brought it in on a shipping and they a semi-truck backed up and we broke it down and then Matt and Tim put that thing together and I think 10 hours we had that thing up.
>> Yeah, I've talked to people directly who have gotten the grants which does allow they've gotten that and they've gotten a pollinator grant. It's somebody who listens to my podcast and she said, "Yeah, I just decided that the money was and letting them look at my land was fine, whatever." And she said they've literally only ever like come out one time, but they can they reserve the right. And the other thing you can do if you own different plots of land that adjoin is I had another friend, they have a oneacre plot of land and then they have everywhere else where they live. And when the guy came out to inspect what they'd gotten the grant for, he tried to come on their property and my friend's like, "No, you can't come over here," he said, "Yeah, but we have access to everything as a result of this grant." And he's like, "No, you have access to this address. These are the property lines for that address.
These are the property lines for another address. You're coming on to property that's not part of that grant." So you literally can just break off a piece of your land where you're doing that kind of stuff if you want to tap into those grants and you're worried about them coming onto your property.
>> Yeah, that's a good idea. And a lot of it's just bureaucrats when you tell them no, their hackles go up and now it's something personal, right? You've you've hurt their feelings and uh it goes if you're a conspiracy dude, which I am. I believe every one of them. And everybody's out to get me in some capacity.
>> 100% out to get you, John. and and come to find out when we used to joke about it, they actually were right. So, I mean, yeah, I understand opening you up and I would assume that if you had a grant of some type, other people could show up and use that as to gain access, right? There you don't know that those three dudes in that car aren't all from that agency, right? What other agencies are there? So, >> it's it's a good question, but the way you get those grants is you go to your extension office in your county and the best place to start is there because they'll tell you what's available in the area. And then they will come out and look at your property and say, "This is what we think we can get you grants for." So, part of their success is the grants getting used in their local area.
So, it's >> So, they've got a pool of money to disperse.
Yeah. And you know, just because they work with you on a grant doesn't mean you'll necessarily get it. But a lot like a lot of people I know who've gotten it, it wasn't very hard for them to qualify.
>> And I don't I don't know if it's all of Tennessee, but we are not registered as a farm. Um because I was told we don't have 13 acres, right? We're at 10. Um now, I've recently had people tell me that it's actually 15 acres. So 135 doesn't matter. I don't meet either one of those, but we do not have farm exemption because we don't have enough property to have farm exemption.
>> Yeah, that's the green belt probably.
Um, they are giving grants to smaller pieces of land here.
>> Nice.
>> There is an active outreach to small homestead scale at this point, I would say, which is an interesting conflict of interest because a lot of homesteaders are doing it because they don't want the government on their face.
>> Yep. So >> it's the same thing like uh 2019 you had all these uh people selling their properties east coast, west coast and a lot of them moved to our areas and what they found they they came with big money because they sold their houses at very peak of market and they were able to come in and buy you know 100 100 acre tracks of land or so and then they're going to build the McMansion and they found that the contractors were all busy so they started setting tiny homes and building out tiny homes and the the it it messed up so much of the mobile home sales that the mobile home industry went to the governor and then the governor said went to the local electric places and said you cannot energize these tiny houses if they're not on a slab made on site um they have to have a VIN number on them which means they're on wheels all kinds of stuff so you couldn't energize them so the workaround was you had to carry your own electricity right so you had to have solar panels or some sort of generation and batteries. So, that was the workound where they couldn't reach into your property. But if they have a cable, if they have power coming onto your property, they won't they won't sign those things anymore. You can you can put a power um pole in and run a RV. If it's on wheels, they can't say anything about it. I set a shipping container here, they tax me on it. If I put a a semi-truck trailer on wheels, they can't say anything about it.
If you put your shipping container on wheels, can they tax you for it?
>> I don't know the answer to that. I don't I don't know. There there might that might be a possibility.
>> Yeah. I wonder what qualifies as a wheel. Can we go medieval and just round pieces of >> Right. We settle them on round logs.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'm always looking for the loophole, John. That's that's my one of my passions is where's the loophole in that law? But >> yeah, and then a lot of that's interpretation, right? How how much money do you want to spend in court?
>> Is it is it cheaper to pay the extra $100 a year in property tax or the 510,000 $20,000 to go to court? Right?
Because they when you win in court, they never pay your fees.
>> Yeah. You don't get paid for the lawyer.
That's true.
>> When when they steal all your money, uh, you know, going down the interstate and you have cash, like I was always worried about sending the boys out with cash to go buy trailers or trucks or something and have state troopers or task force.
They never even if you win that case after all those years and they have to give your 30 grand or whatever back that 100,000 you spent in legal fees they don't cover it they don't pay it there's there's nothing you don't get compensated for it.
>> Yeah.
>> The process is the punishment.
>> The process is the punishment. That's true. I'm actually fighting one of those camera tickets right now because I wasn't driving my car and I don't know who was.
Oh, we we had lived here three years, four years. We had a white Ford Explorer sitting in the driveway. The day we pulled it in, that truck hadn't left the driveway. And Amanda got a a a traffic camera of her of well, somebody in that car with that it had that plate number on it. And they sent her a ticket here in Tennessee 3 years after. And that truck had sat in that driveway so long it had like Tennessee moss growing on it, right? at that green stuff you see.
>> Yeah, >> it's it's And I mean, how many people just pay that? It's wild. I had lived here. I had been here 12 to 18 months probably. When I left California, registration on my truck was $630.
And I had like three days left on it.
Moved here, registered the truck. It's $24 here. And Tennessee, uh, California sent me signed receipt. I believe they even had a dude, I think a a deputy walked in and handed me the paperwork that I had to go to court. And uh California said I was behind on my um registration for two years and I owed like $1,300 so dollars to impound the truck or something. The truck was the truck was registered here.
That's how they knew to come serve me.
So how many people just pay that out of fear? That's a good question. And had you been registered here the whole time or was there a two-year gap because you weren't driving it anyway?
>> No, I it was registered here. No, this is a different truck. This is this is that big F250.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. California is really good at going after people as is Oregon.
>> Yes. I just wish Tennessee would tell them, "We're not playing your reindeer games. We're not doing that."
>> Yeah. They tried to go after me for business tax for doing business in Oregon because I did when I was in Oregon. I reincorporated when I moved here.
>> Yeah.
>> And I was not I didn't have any Oregon customers, so it didn't matter. And they were trying to say, "No, you have to pay us taxes." And I was like, I I haven't lived there for a while. So, >> we have a kid we just hired that moved here about a year ago from Oregon.
>> Yeah.
>> I said, "Why'd you leave?" He said, "Oregon's crazy." I said, "I bet it is.
>> You're hired."
>> I kind of walked in and I'm like, "I don't think you're going to fit here.
You look like you're in enemy territory." And uh I I put him to work and uh he saw the Kildozer shirt and he's like, "Oh, that's an awesome shirt.
Where can I get one of those?" And I thought, "Okay, he might fit in. He might be okay here."
>> Yeah.
Well, your your shirts are really good at screening people, although they don't get this one. So >> Oh, some of them get it.
>> Yes. Most of them don't get >> Some of them get it. Yeah. Yeah. They love it and some of them hate it.
>> That's also true.
>> And it and it's more uh I had people when we did that shirt, I had people said, "Man, I wouldn't expect this from you." And I'm like, "Well, I don't know what you do expect." Like, he's like, "I just don't like any of the Abraham religions." I'm like, "So, is that a maybe box? Should I check the maybe box or is that a solid no that you're not buying that shirt?"
>> Did they?
>> No. Like, I'm unfollowing you. Well, that's that's sorry to see you go. I didn't know you were here.
>> Yeah, that's the I'm unfollowing you thing.
>> Yeah, there were two or three.
>> I mean, I unfollowed you somehow, but I didn't really unfollow you. But I was a little I was trying to tag you in the post for today's show. I'm like, why is this page not coming up?
>> And I go and I had to manually look up your page and it said, "Click here to follow." Okay, now I can tag you.
>> Yeah. When I went to tag you on the Instagram post, it took some digging to find you.
>> Yeah. So, I don't know. They don't want us talking. We must be sharing too many interesting tidbits for people about peach trees.
>> I guess and data centers. People get so offended until they realize Islam actually teaches. Yeah. I don't know who John is.
>> I believe John Baitman is in Washington DC.
>> Oh, okay.
Have not met him. I would not move back to Washington DC having >> No, no, absolutely not.
>> Okay, let's talk about Thomas Massie.
>> Okay.
>> Did you watch that go down?
>> I watched bits and pieces of it. We actually talked about it on the podcast and Jeff had a pretty good point. He said, you know, he didn't campaign towards the people that could elect him, right? when when he was up for reelection, he said a lot of things, but he wasn't speaking to Kentucky specifically for the people that could elect him. Now, the the theory and and probably truth is that they put so much money behind this other guy. I have no idea who this other guy is, >> but but it seems like, you know, he's he's the guy. Now, what is Thomas Massie going to do? What does this free Thomas Massie up to do? Um, I keep seeing people saying he's dropping names and like you keep hearing all these people dropping names, but if they're not going to arrest him, it doesn't matter what the names are. They're like, who are they arresting?
>> Nobody. They're not arresting anybody.
>> No. No. It seems like they're all [ __ ] complacent in it. Not I don't think Massie is, but I mean, >> no, he is not.
>> I've I've enjoyed talking to Thomas Massie. Every time I've I've met him, I've enjoyed his content. Um, you know him better than I do. What What do you What's your take on it? Oh, >> my take is that he got primar because he pissed off Donald Trump.
>> Well, we knew that. We knew that when we were at Rogue Food and he was up there talking. He's the biggest grandstander.
You're just a grand like he was mad at Thomas Massie six years ago.
>> Yeah. Well, and so Thomas Massie, I don't admire very many politicians.
I admire Thomas Massie for doing what he says he's going to do.
I I actually haven't dug that deeply into everything he says he's going to do. I do agree with him on a lot of things. I'm sure I don't agree with him on everything, but I would much rather have somebody in office who does what they say they're going to do than the the ones who do what most politicians do, which is say in generic terms what they're going to do. We all understand what that means. And then they go do something else and then they try to fall back on some trick of language. Oh, but I didn't really say that because blah blah blah. Um, he was predictable. Trump's pretty predictable, too, though, if you think about it. Like a lot of people don't That was one of the biggest topics of conversation in Europe was >> how could you guys elect Trump? And I'm like, well, I mean, look at >> what? Yeah.
Well, I mean, if you're in Europe and you live in Europe, Trump being elected is not good for you. Biden was probably way better for them, right? because that money was flowing.
>> Yeah. Who's this trollbot?
>> I have no idea who this is, but let's go ahead and get that guy right out of here. Ban and deleted.
>> Yes. Done. Oh, you did it before I did.
>> He He thinks so much of what he's saying that he uses a fake name to say it.
>> Yeah. Only you can ban him right now.
Oh.
>> Uh he has two accounts that are the same. He'll pop back up here with a few more of them.
>> We'll just keep banning him when he comes up.
>> Yep.
>> Well, good. We're striking a chord today, John. We got a we got our first troll for the show. It only took us an hour and 12 minutes to get that done, but we've achieved it. So, yeah. People think he's going to run for president. I don't know if he will.
>> Oh, I would love to see Bill Dan Bilzerian. Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah, but that is what it is. Um, okay.
I've asked you this question before, but it's been a number of years. What key skills do you think people should be building right now besides making money?
That one's off the table. Um, to be more resilient in the next few years based on what you're seeing these days.
>> Well, I mean, I think everybody's money is tighter, right? So, whatever that skill is you choose, it's definitely easier to learn a skill you want to learn. So if it it's even more beneficial if the skill you learn is something you want to learn that you can profit from. So it always goes back to making money. I mean you can be the best painter in the world but if nobody wants to buy your paintings and people are not probably buying paintings right now I would say that painting is probably not the skill that you should take on something that you know people need. And there's there's YouTube videos all day long about little things you could set.
I just watched a video yesterday, the 10 things to make $10,000 in one day, $10,000 in a week, and $10,000 in a month. And I watched them all and they were all automated online stuff, right?
And I'm like, I don't want to do none of that. That's not I'm I'm looking for something that I can have something tangible and use that to make money or sell something, you know? I'm looking for something like that. But I always think if if I had to go to work right now, it would be equipment. I would be using a skid steer and an excavator. And then how do we move that skid steering activator? Everybody can't do that, but I watched a dude uh during this last ice storm snow we had in Jackson, Tennessee, and I was talking to I don't remember who it was. They literally went to this grocery store and said, "Hey, I'll plow your I'll I'll remove all the ice for you. What's this pain?" Right? And they they got some number. And the dude walked across the street to a rental center and rented two Bobcats and drove them across the street and plowed this out. and they were making fat money at that time. And I know some guys that do that stuff and if you show up with a skid steer, they will pay you whatever that day rate is to work that also.
There's always money to be made with equipment, whether it's pushing snow, pushing ice, digging holes, unloading materials, whatever it is. But I mean, find something you like to do. I've been doing these SO videos for I don't know, I've got over a hundred of them out there. And every night, dudes show up and they're like, "Hey, somebody bought my thing." And I'm like, "Yeah, no [ __ ] Somebody bought your thing. I told you six months ago to sell the They're like, "As soon as it's a little better." I'm like, "Sell that one. See if it sells."
The I spent I spent from year 1 to 10, we made a bunch of gear. And from year 10 to 20, I spent a lot of time trying to buy back that very first gear, right?
Nobody would sell it. It was It was raggedy looking. It It didn't look clean. There was It's been used for a decade, but they wouldn't sell that stuff. It still holds up to this day.
We've got gear 35 years. So, I mean, anybody can do anything. And they they always say, well, you know, I don't have time. Or, you know, I think a lot of people say, I want to do this thing.
You're like, why don't you do it? I don't have time. Well, if you don't have time, it's because you don't really want to do it. What are you willing to sacrifice to do that thing? I know that doesn't really answer your question.
What do you What do you think it would be?
>> I I think we need to pay attention to our premium customers.
more because like the small premium things. So, not necessarily create a $10,000 airplane experience, but more that like my Black Label coffee that'll be coming out this year because what's happening is in in sort of a younger demographic right now, they can't buy their first house, but they have disposable income and are starting to put that money towards smaller luxuries as they build their affluence.
rather than scrimping and saving to get that first house. That's that's they just released a report. And I've I've come to that because of airlines. So about six months ago, the airlines started really investing in a better experience for their business and first class tickets.
And I thought, okay, well, the airlines usually know what's up. It's where some some did, but I mean, you watched a lot that did the other thing completely go out of business, right?
>> Right. The ones who went cattle car.
Yeah.
>> Yeah. And and with that, I already thought it and then my confirmation bias when that report came out about where, you know, zenials and millennials are spending money who can't get a house because they feel priced out of the market is those like your stuff, your gear is the best nylon tactical gear you can get, period.
>> And the price tag reflects that. You were just telling me those sexy leather bags you're making with the leather sides. H50 bucks. Yep.
>> $850 for a bag when you can go down to Walmart and get a bag for $20 that will last you six months.
>> Sure you can. But there's there's plenty of bags that cost way more than mine cost that are built in a similar manner.
There's a there's a young guy. He's a firefighter. He lives in Nashville.
Builds some beautiful bags. And I was very curious. And I I found him right after I sold that last large tool bag I did in leather. Yeah. And uh I'm like I wonder what his market rate is because I I just wanted to know and all of his bags are 2500 and up and you prepay that he'll build it on video for you and it you know you just and that's what I tell guys all the time you know and I got that from Spearco. If you're comfortable with the price you're not charging enough and you should probably double it. And I I that that holds true when I tell these guys starting these businesses these hobby businesses out of their kitchen or you know living room.
I'm like, number one, sell that thing.
You need money coming in or it's not a business. And number two, you didn't charge enough. If they bought it quickly, you need to charge more for it.
>> Yeah. So, then I look at Carrie here and I think, what's her premium product?
Well, she did a custom sauce for me.
>> Mhm.
>> How much is that worth? Like, there's a there's a sauce now and and there's a sauce spice rub that that has hollow roast in it. And you can only buy that from her or you can buy it here in person right now. And >> her drink garnishes are the the big thing I think right now. And the beauty of those is they don't weigh anything.
So they can move very easily in a in a large amount, right? She can put a lot of them in a box. They can go to a restaurant or whatever.
>> And >> once you load that machine up, it it runs it. And then the next thing is how does she package it, right? But we can automate packaging. Well, I'm sure she has. I mean, even just off of Beaver, there's all kinds of machines. I mean, I watched AJ run label all his boxes and stuff while he was standing at SRF uh before, you know, when he got there early. I didn't even know those machines existed. But, I mean, all you have to do is want to do it. There's a way to do it. And what are you willing to not do in order to do that?
>> Yeah. And that's the that's the point.
One of the skills I think you like the key underlying all of it, which is why I told John he couldn't just say make money because that's the the bottom line is making your own way is a skill that is regulatory discouraged.
But the most important thing you can do because it teaches you in a situation where everything looks like it's gone to crap, but you've already built something. So you know that things crap sometimes and you can just build through it. We have a lot of >> You have a lot of people that don't have any money and they don't want to do anything to get any money. So, when you try to do something different, they're going to talk to you as though you're the bad guy, right? Because you're trying to break that mold. Those aren't your friends. Like, you need to have new friends. And really, you don't need to have any friends when you're starting to build your business. And I know you're going to have somebody's like, "That's lonely, and I don't know if I could do that." You know what's really fun?
Making a lot of money. Like as soon as you have a lot of money, you can do anything you want. You can hire people to do things. You can have other services do things, but it's the money.
You ain't never seen a dude that runs up and rans his jet ski up on the beach and jumps off of there without a big ass smile on his face. I don't want a jet ski. I've never had a jet ski, but I've never seen a dude on a jet ski that doesn't have a big old, you know, smile on his face. And that that comes from money. Like, you know, you're going to have some money is the root of all evil and money doesn't buy happiness. I hear that [ __ ] all the time. You know who says that?
People that don't have any money.
>> Yep. Yeah. Somebody says making money is the bees knees. It is. But making in the way you like making it really awesome, too.
>> Definitely helps.
>> Definitely helps. And then, you know, somebody else was saying the young kids these days want to see the thing they ordered being made by the person who they ordered it from.
>> They I do premium service. I watch those guys. And I'll bet if you went through your analytics, >> I know Shopify has AI integrated into it. Now, I'll bet if you go through your analytics, um, you're going to find that 20% of your customers are 80% of your revenue. I say 10% is 80% of your revenue, but you're going to find that you're going to have those customers that order all the time. When we had when Pierre was doing shipping here, he cared enough to actually look. And then Paula later on also, but Pierre's like, "Who is this person? I keep seeing his name." We look his account up and he has over a thousand orders. And we had no idea who this dude was because the system didn't tell us and I didn't know to look. But that that's always the case when we were handwriting notes to all of those customers. We saw those names come up over and over and over. And if you give those guys and they're quiet, they're not complaining. They don't say anything. You don't even know they're there. But when you quietly add something more, it it pays leaps and bounds as it does as it does with a a lower dollar spin customer also.
>> But it's if you service those bigger dudes, they they'll buy everything you make all the time, >> especially if it's something unique or you do something special for them, >> like custom signs, for example.
>> Yeah, custo custom signs. I mean, anything. I have I have customers that ask for things. We have kind of a a secret menu way of ordering things and some guys do that and I'm like, "No, we're we're just not going to do that."
And then other dudes do it and I'm like, "Let it go. It's it's that guy."
>> Yeah. It's the guy that we always do the things for.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Benchmark makes some nice signs, guys. I'm just saying. Benchmark says, "Money doesn't make you happy. Imagine what being poor is." Yep.
>> Yeah. Bench made all of these signs you see sitting here, >> too.
>> Yep.
>> They do a great job.
>> Yes, he does.
So, I love mine.
>> Time is money. So, I went and bought a Rolex. What kind of Rolex What kind of Rolex did you get? And congratulations.
>> Benchmark says those signs are on point, baby.
>> Yes, they are. I need one that says benchmark. Oh, look. I have one.
>> Oh, if only you had one that said benchmark right above your head. I like your background because you can hang stuff on it easier than my wall here.
>> So, you actually can't. This it it's fake. It's uh it's actually just shiplap that I we stapled up there.
>> Ah, >> but yeah, if you had grid wall, you could you could also do, you know, grid, actual grid wall, and hang things on it.
For sure.
>> Yeah, it'd be nice for me to be able to switch things out based on what I'm doing sometimes.
>> Yeah, our our set over here has Omniwall, which is they call it gold gold uh plated pegboard. It's metal pegboard. It's costly. It's beautiful.
You can get it in any color you want.
And they have all the stuff that attaches and then anything that'll plug to pegboard also fits on it.
>> Yeah. I've been looking at putting that in my kitchen to hang.
>> It's great.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's great.
>> Yep.
>> And on Father's Day, they always do a like a 20% discount. So now's the time to get some if you want it.
>> Oh, and Father's Day is very close to now, isn't it?
>> I think it's three weeks. I only know that because I watched a video talking about what sales somebody was running for Father's Day.
>> Oh, you know who else has a sale?
Redmond. Redmond salt.
>> Nice.
>> 20% off through the 5th.
>> We called to set up with them and they were they would not set us up. I don't know if there's a disconnect there or what the deal was. We never got anywhere with Redmond's >> just to do an affiliate thing or >> we affiliate or buy wholesale and re anything.
>> Yeah.
>> Buy in volume like there was some cut off there.
>> I wonder what it was.
>> I I don't know. I don't know. Don't like guns. I don't know. It could be. So, I was at the airport in Germany going through security with a broken wing. So, I they had to like do all the wands on me. And the lady gets to my belt and asks me in German, "Why is your belt so hard?" "It's one of your belts, Sean."
>> And I was like, "I don't know. It's just my belt." Because the other answer to that was like so it could hold my gun up. And I figured that was the wrong answer for an airport security line, >> right?
>> And she made me take it off and put it through the X-ray. Everybody made me take that belt off and put it through the X-ray even though there's no metal in it except for the >> Yeah, I could see I could see hiding or sewing something inside them.
>> Yeah, it was it was just funny because she was really irritated with that belt.
shoes. But and I thought, okay, this this is going to be a great S so SOE story when when Nicole Sos gets stuck in Germany because she's wearing an S so SOE belt to hold her pants up. Yeah, it didn't happen. They they ultimately let me through because you can X-ray your belt and it's fine.
>> Cool.
>> But now you know you're triggering security lines in other countries.
>> Yeah, that particular lady.
>> Yeah. Oh, no. It happened to me twice. I had to go through security twice in Germany. Yeah, it was great. The Greeks didn't care.
They were they were like, "Whatever, you're fine." Um, but I don't know. I just knew what the wrong answer. I knew the truthful answer was the wrong answer at that time, >> right? Yeah, less words is probably better.
>> Yeah, usually less words is better in that situation. So, I should have gotten a picture of her with the belt, but that probably wouldn't have gone. She was already grumpy. here. Can I take a picture and put it on his product website?
>> Yeah.
>> So, okay. So, you're not pro being next door to a data center, but do you use AI much?
>> Um, not much. I've I've used it a couple times. I mean, I I think it's getting to the point where you don't have a choice.
Like, Google search engine is now AI, right? Is it real AI? I mean, ChatGpt just had a huge class action lawsuit where you're asking ChatGpt and it's dudes in India answering, right? So, I don't I don't know. I say I say use what benefits you if it helps you out and people are like, "Well, it's it's you know, it's it's seeing everything you do." Well, it sees everything you do anyways. Do you think that it's not on your Do you really believe it's not there? You don't think when you when they did the update, you don't think it's here? There's there is a record of everything you've said or keystroke or text or anything. If they're telling you they're going to do it, they're already doing it. You You can just not participate or, you know, take advantage of it.
>> How many people on this live stream watching us right now do you suppose have a Gmail account?
>> I would guess. Well, every one of them does. If they're watching you from YouTube, you have no choice. If you're using YouTube, you have a Gmail account.
>> Yeah. Amanda says, "Your router sees everything you do." It's true.
>> It's true. So does your Roomba vac cleaner.
>> Yeah.
Yeah, if they're hooked up to Wi-Fi, >> they they've done plenty of raids where they have mapped a house and said, "We mapped the house off the Roomba data."
>> Yeah.
Well, how many Gmail accounts do you suppose are being analyzed by Google's AI?
>> Every single one of them.
>> How do you think that email pops back up and says, "You haven't answered me yet."
>> Yeah, every one of them.
>> Yeah. And then if you're on Proton Mail through Chrome, how secure do you think that is, right?
So yeah, they're totally watching you. I had my not participating in your new normal normal S so SOE shirt on when I went through TSA and it was awkward trying to come up with an answer to not raise the hackles of the They asked you about your t-shirt at >> at the TSA. Angie, >> we just reran the United States Post Apocalypse shirt that looks like the post office. I love that shirt.
>> This week we did this >> this black logo. I don't I I don't think we've ever done this one on a shirt. We just put this on a hoodie uh this winter.
>> Yeah, I do. I will admit that I sometimes choose my S so SOE shirt for how long of a conversation do I want to have at security if I'm flying?
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. No doubt.
>> Nano drone small enough to fly into your nostril. Um, I moved to Tennessee 18 years ago in my mom's garage in San Diego three years before that. We had a bunch of guys from Seal Team 3 in the garage we were building some gear for.
And we had a drone that they brought in.
It was in a little Pelican case that looked like a dragonfly. It was about this big. I can only imagine what they have now because I held this thing in my hand and they were they had them. So, we've seen them on TV shows and all kinds of stuff since then. The payloads are through the roof now. They can put a little, you know, package in there that will explode or or whatever. I mean, I'm of the belief that if you have seen it in sci-fi, we already have it.
>> Well, that's how we get our ideas.
>> I I think so. I mean, a lot of people working on the same ideas at once. But I I think when you really start looking and pulling patents and stuff, that stuff has existed for decades before, you know, anybody even thought, "Oh, we should build that." If you're thinking that we should build it, they've probably built it. It's just which agency and which pool of money.
>> Look who's >> Yeah. Birds aren't real.
>> Birds aren't real.
>> Burning.
>> I have Yeah. Hopefully. Well, we were talking about how awesome he is. Um, you need to come out to my place again and see my orchard actually looking good. He came out here and it was like the year of the fire blight recovery, which was super fun. And um I was like, "Yeah, that's my food forest looking like crap right now." We've turned it around a lot since you were here last. I'm just saying. I think you were here last summer in like August or something. I don't know. Whenever we did that rabbit kill workshop, you came. And I still have your rabbit cage, by the way. Um, but yeah, it's uh definitely definitely fun to think about birds. We have a chicken that is I think 10 or 12 years old now that disappeared once and she was gone for almost a month and then came back looking all ratty and since then and that was like I don't know three four years ago. We call her Robo Chicken. We are we are convinced she's an NSA drone and she's spying on us here in the hauler because there's no reason this chicken should even still be alive.
But she still keeps trucking. So then while I was out of town, I got a picture of duck eggs and one green egg because she's an Americana style chicken and um Tactical said the NSA sent sent you a present, Nicole. You got an egg from them today. So yeah, fire blight. Oh, did you get fire blight this year in your orchards? I had it the year that we had cicas very badly. We got fire blight all over our orchard. And I it was two two summers or three summers ago when my stepdad was sick. So I was flying to California to help take care of him every week or two for a few days. And I came back from one of those flights and I looked at my orchard and every tree had fire blight. And I thought they were all going to die. And it was the year that cicas came out too. So, I think they help spread the fire blight. Uh, so I ended up calling Nick Ferguson and saying, "Do I just need to cut all my trees down?" He's like, "No, that's fire blight. This is how you deal with it."
And what I ended up doing was sort of a a take on what he did. I I sprayed Lactobacillus on the whole orchard and then cut individually each branch that had any fire blight and treated treated it like it was toxic waste and cleaned my cutting tool between each slice. And then now I mean we're this is the second summer since the fire blight incident. I lost one pear tree. It was an Asian pear tree. Everything else looks good. And the only thing that looks kind of half good still are the plum trees. But yeah, fire blight is not cool. If birds aren't real, what keeps [ __ ] on my windshield, John?
>> Yeah.
>> I don't know.
>> Yep.
>> Ticks are bad every three years. This was one of those years. Yeah, it's been a tick year for sure.
>> Is Is that the case? I've I've never heard so much commotion over ticks and I I see people saying that this helicopter is dropping ticks or I don't know. I mean, I know that they did go around with helicopters and boats and they launched a bunch of meat with a rabies vaccine. Uh TVA wildlife authority did a lot of that. Um, and I see veterinarians saying that there is a massive uptick in rabies. Um, and they're saying that a lot of these new rabies vaccines are actually giving dogs rabies. See, but I mean I I also haven't flushed that out, right? As I'm watching this chick say, "I'm a veterinarian." And like I don't know if she really is or not, but there I'm of the belief that after after COVID, especially after 2019, I'm of the belief that >> I don't know. It's probably true.
There's probably something to a lot of it.
>> I think to those things, you have to ask yourself, could it be true? Is it possible? And then what questions can I ask to verify that? cuz a lot of things I'm Gen X like every time you tell me something I think it's [ __ ] first but then I think what if and then I think maybe I should look into it and sometimes I find out it's [ __ ] and other times I find out okay there is something I can see why it was interpreted that way or actually that thing is happening.
>> I've had I've I've had ticks on me. I've never had a tick that I've had to pull off my skin. Right. I've never had one bitten in that I know of. Um, but I've never had ticks up on the upper area either. Now, I've also said that the the, you know, brush and stuff was way grown up, but I had a tick on I've had something crawling on me and I pulled it off and it was a tick and that was under the rabbit area, right? So, I don't know. I don't I don't know. I mean, I see enough people and people I know too talking about it. So, I think there's probably something to it.
>> Yeah. Who knows?
But but even if that brings up the the awareness of it, right? Like I think that everybody should be very careful with ticks and be, you know, spray yourself if you're going to be where ticks are and be very cautious when you come in to check and make sure they're not on you. I mean, we all know or have heard people saying that, you know, they can't eat meat or alpha gal or and and it's tick spread. And then, you know, with the congressional hearings and everything coming out saying that we invented, you know, that the government or some entity uh created Lyme disease and then they all of a sudden come up with a Lyme disease um vaccination in 2018 was patented and then another one was patented in 24 and they're about to roll that out and then uptick in, you know, uptick in ticks. So I don't I don't know like the the whole 2018 the um event 2011 and then you know a year later almost to the date COVID comes out and then they war game all these things and then they you know release them.
They really tried to do this hunter virus thing and six months prior to that they had a whole war game thing on on huntto virus. That was their whole their whole thing. So I think that one's kind of died out. They realized that people weren't going to do the lockdowns any further. I mean, it's not very contagious.
>> Apparently not. Only only Only if you're on the ship.
>> Yeah. Well, also not very contagious on the ship when the statistics came out about how many people got it on the ship. There's one variety in the whole world that can even pass any other way than rodent fecal and urinary matter. Right.
So, that was a whole I saw that I thought I I've never been afraid of that virus unless I saw mouse [ __ ] somewhere.
And then I was like, "Oo, what's in that?" So, >> right.
>> Yeah, we saw it. We It'd pop up every couple years in California and usually around like mines, you know, gold mines and stuff like that. Mouse [ __ ] is where it comes from. Deer deer mice. Um, it and it's I always understood it was in the dried urine. And then if you're I always pictured it as you found this old trappers cabin and you're sweeping it out and then inhale the dust. That's how you get that.
>> Yeah. you need to wear. We had a a clean out here that it turned out there was a lot of rat in it. We we were pulling everything out of a storage building that came on a property I bought and throwing it away. And we ended up wearing, you know, respirator.
>> Yeah. Face mask.
>> It was just like, well, I don't know what we're stirring up. We're trying not to create a lot of dust, but we're going to pull the whole building down anyway.
But it was you had to get the stuff out of it to do that. So, >> yeah, maybe just burn it.
>> Yeah. Jason apparently likes mouse poop so he can get immunity to it.
>> Yeah, Jason's an odd fella.
He was here yesterday.
>> Yeah, >> somebody had a tick pulled off their back while they were here. Yeah, we have all sorts of ticks, including the Lone Star and you can get Alpha Gal from that. Um, but I think because people get bit by that all the time and don't get it, I think there's an immune system issue in there, too.
>> Could be. Ian says he got three years ago no bites. Last year one bite, this year two bites.
>> Yeah, we had more ticks and then this year for sure. And it's interesting because this the winter was so cold. I always figure after a cold winter you won't get it.
>> But >> yeah. Anyway, well, you about ready to wrap up, John?
>> Sure.
>> All right. tell us about your awesome leather bags that they can't buy or anything else you want to share.
>> Uh, we make we make nylon tactical gear.
Occasionally I do some stuff with leather. Um, I usually I used to put those up on auction. They go about two grand, $2,500 when I do them. Um, same product we make. We make a product called a tool bag. Everybody should have them. We also make a large tool bag. All of our products are Velcro lined, so we have attachments and organization that go inside those. Um, it's a whole ecosystem and everything we build all interlocks and uh works with most of the product line in that manner. Um, I also do a series of videos showing you how to build my product, right? For guys that are like, I would never pay that. I'm like, cool, you should go buy a sewing machine and all this stuff. And I'll even show you how to make it. So, um, we do a lot of videos every week and then, uh, we got Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, uh, Tik Tok, and then I do a live video every night at around 9:00. So, if you jump on there, we can talk about whatever you want to talk about. I show you the product that the shop made each day, what's available. I walk around briefly, show you what's on the sewing machines that's coming up over the next day or two. Um, if you hear anything about SOE, it's that, you know, we never have anything. Well, we have it. You just have to want it enough to have it kind of, right? You can't always just go and buy it. Um, and that's how guys get that. They're people that spend a little bit of time to be there at nine o'clock.
And half the people on the video, they're only there the first three, four minutes to see the product and then the rest of it's a real conversation. And a lot of the people that are here today are on those videos. And uh, that's it.
So tactical gear.com.
>> Yeah. Uh, and you know, to follow up on that, having just traveled with a broken wing, I used the SOE daypack.
>> And this is a really, it's really welldesigned. I mean, obviously, but the way he has the straps and there is a sternum strap and a waist strap.
>> Well, I couldn't have strap over one arm, so I would put it here and put the waist strap on and I had plenty of stability to carry the the backpack. It was totally comfortable the whole time.
And then of course because you made it, it's not falling apart on me. I bought it I think a year ago or so, a year and a half ago.
When I compare that to other backpacks, it's very clear what the difference in quality is. And that's I think people who are new to SOE don't get it until they see it. But that gear, it makes you never want anything that's not SOE is what happens. So it's actually a problem when when they see your stuff. John, >> we have a history. And that's not to say that other companies don't do the same thing, but we have a 35 year history. We have equipment that's been out there for 35 years, and we have equipment that I sold to young Marines in Oceanside out of my shop. And fast forward, their children are using that equipment on deployments. Like dad gave it to them.
And now we've got third generation people using those things. We've we build it the same way we used to build it. We use the same products that we used to make. And it's made by human beings in middle of nowhere, small town USA, between Memphis and Nashville. And there's real human beings. Everything that we sell you that is nylon made or any of Amanda's products, they are all made here on site. They come they come from Americans here in America.
>> Yeah. So if AI is making you uncomfortable, start supporting local companies, right?
>> Yeah.
>> And whether it's my local company or somebody else's. Yeah. Go go go see who's making what. Go hire a designer who's in, you know, here and not Fiverr.
>> Yeah. The logo The logo says made in the [ __ ] USA. We sell tons of people like that. Every now and then somebody doesn't like it. And I get it.
It gets the hackles up, but we sell a ton of product that does nothing other than state that. And people like that.
We ship it all over the world. as a matter of fact.
>> And if you order it, he's not Amazon.
>> No, but I mean, we're we're getting there. 80% of 85% of what we ship out every day, uh, you're we ship most orders next day. 85% of them probably.
And we're locking the site down. We've been doing that for the last 6 months.
As we run a batch of something, we're like, we have this, we built 25, there's 18 available inventories locked and corrected. So, as we build the product, we are removing that as we find that on the site.
>> Yeah. And the way you end up having to wait is order something weird, right?
>> Yeah. Or request something. I mean, we're I'm I I should just The answer should be no. But I always want to go, "Yeah, we'll do that." And that's that's always what happens.
>> Yeah. That gets a lot of us in trouble.
I need to get better at no.
>> Yep.
>> Anyway, guys, if you want to follow me, my podcast is Living Free in Tennessee.
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My advice to you if you're looking to get coffee in a different amount than a small amount is go to hollow roast.com, sign up for my email list, and pay attention over the next two weeks is what's about to launch because that will give some people finally a way to get Holler Roast delivered freshly to their door in a quantity and maybe save a little along the way.
Anyway, we'll see you guys next month.
>> See you guys.
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