This video demonstrates how judges maintain courtroom authority while addressing defendant concerns, showing that effective judicial communication involves balancing firm enforcement of legal requirements with understanding of individual circumstances. The judge consistently emphasizes that defendants must follow court orders, such as completing substance abuse treatment programs, while also allowing space for defendants to explain their situations. The video illustrates that successful court proceedings require both clear communication of consequences and genuine engagement with the defendant's perspective.
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not playing this game with you again.
>> I'm not asking for any games. I'M NOT PLAYING ANY GAMES.
>> Your honor, >> good morning, Mr. Frasier.
>> Here we are back yet again.
>> Sir, >> your evaluation says that the proper place is SATF, which is a treatment facility. I think that that is the proper course.
>> Oh, okay. I know you say no, but that's what >> it's not about I'm not God, [clears throat] man. Sir, >> no outburst. Just >> Stephen, it's it's okay. You know, I mean, really, I get your frustration, but >> I understand, but the last time that we were here in court, the it's not that I didn't go to take the UA. I couldn't submit one. I went there. I came back to the court, the courts were closed. I came to talk to you. As soon as I as soon as we went out this door, Mr. Brooks and I, I spoke to him. I said I told him, I said, "I need to turn back around and talk to the judge. I said, I'm not going to be able to pass one right now." He said he'll talk to you and he was going to come and and I don't know what happened with that conversation. He never got back with me.
I still went down there to submit a UA.
I was not able to submit one. I came back to the courts. When I came back to the courts, the the courtroom was locked. I communicated that with Mr. Brooks. I'm not sure what what the issue is, what the problem is with him and his communication, but it it sucks.
>> That's that's baloney. And I'm going to call you on your baloney right now cuz I know him. He's always been a brother reproach. It's not him. It's you.
>> No, it I communicated that you >> under the bus.
>> I'm not throwing anybody under the bus.
I communicated.
>> It's disingenuous and it's just not true.
>> No, I did communicate with him. I promise. I Why would I lie about that? I have no reason to lie. The same way that I told you the truth about everything. I have not lied about >> I have been dancing since >> for two years. Exactly.
>> Since three years. Two >> This case has been going on for two years.
It's not a drug problem. It's not a drug issue. It's not at all whatsoever. And I swear to you on that, it is not. I can look you dead in the eye and tell you.
>> So, what is it, Mr. Frasier?
>> It's I'm There's nothing going on.
There's nothing wrong. I'm just trying to continue my life. I'm just trying to do what I That honestly, that's really it. I'm just trying to just get this done with and continue my life. There's not a drug issue. That is the honest truth. And I don't know what else to say or how to communicate that to make you believe me.
There is not a drug issue. Okay.
>> I just want my I just want this case to be over with so I can continue with my life. I feel like it's been holding me back. I just want my life back. Just want my life back. I want it the way it was. I want my life back. But this is holding me back so much.
>> There's only one way that's going to happen.
>> It's not a drug issue, man. Please listen to me. It's not drugs.
>> [snorts] >> Please just listen to me. It's not drugs.
>> Mr. Frasier, >> I don't have a drug issue. The last time we were here in court, they were the the the plea plea plea bargain that was on the table was to time serve. What is wrong with that? What is so wrong with that?
[clears throat] >> History is any indication?
>> I have never ever failed a drug test ever since I've been in your courtroom.
You just don't go.
>> No, I have never failed. Don't go. That was the one and only time. That is the one and only time. Look it up.
>> Lower your voice, [snorts] >> Stephen.
>> No, your honor, I understand, but it's okay. I get it. Emotions run high and but I'm going to tell you this that you're probably one of the best actors.
>> I'm not for this court ever. You put on such a show.
>> I'm going to take it to trial.
>> Okay. I'm not I I don't >> I'm for once we are in agreement because I know that you don't want to go to the impatient facility. So my recourse is to set you for trial.
>> What was wrong with the plea? What's the plea?
>> I'm not taking it. I'm not going to take your plea guilty for you to get out because I know you get out, you're going to pick up another case.
>> No, I'm not. Where are we going?
>> Really? I don't >> pick up another case now. Let's go through this now.
>> Okay. So, that was then. This is now >> when I did have an issue, but I don't have an issue now. And what I'm trying to do is just continue my life and you're holding me back.
>> Ready? Can I go through this?
>> Go ahead.
>> Okay. So, 6324 criminal mischief 122923 assault bodly injury. Right before that in November, assault evading arrest terasick threat assault bodily injury.
And on the terroristic threat, assault, bodily injury, and on the VPO that you pick up right before that, I had to set the bonds at 30,04 because of all the times you took off and that you refused to take drug test.
>> I What drug test?
>> Time out. Time out. What drug test?
There's never No, that that's a lie.
That's 100% lie. What drug test? Go ahead. Call those out because I don't I don't remember any of those.
>> Every case that you've had here, >> there was not Nope. Nope. That's a lie.
You let me finish or no?
>> Go ahead.
>> Every case since the first couple, you know what? You know what it was?
It was with your first DWI that you came in here. That's when I started drug testing you. And since that point, it's literally gone sideways.
>> Never failed one.
>> After that one, >> all you did was keep picking up cases.
Pick keep picking up cases and you would never appear in court.
So regardless, look, I'm not going to get into this pissing match with you.
What's going to happen now?
>> Cuz obviously you're not in agreement.
You just obviously want to have control.
That's all it is. You want your way?
>> I'm going to have you go to the SATF program.
>> Not going.
>> Okay. I'm going to set your case for trial. And if you're found guilty, then we do it as part of your probation because I will Is he looking at a year? Is he looking at Yeah, you're looking at a year. So what I'm going to do is I will sentence you to 365 days in jail. I will probate that for 2 years and then I'm going to as a condition of your probation >> put you into the SAT program.
>> Why? Why?
>> Cuz that's what I think you need.
>> What?
>> So then 3 years later you just take three years of my life.
>> The clinicians that assessed you just No, because the first time they did not it was not they went with you. know, they they went against what what was actually on there because they knew that that's what the judge wanted.
>> He's upset cuz you know, reality is a kick in the ding-ding. I get it.
>> I'm not upset. I'm just just I'm just I'm frustrated. I'm frustrated. This is going on way too long. I just want I just want my I just want to get back to my life. That's it. I just want to get back to my life. That's it. I just want to get back to my life. Like I don't know how how hard that is to understand.
What's ratio?
>> So, Mr. Brooker, I think that we just need to go ahead and probably set it and stop beating around the bush.
>> What is the offer that's on the table right now?
>> I'm not taking >> Well, I'm just asking what is it? What?
Okay. So, what is it that you want in all honesty? Like, what all do you want?
>> I want you to go to the SAT program.
>> And what is that?
>> The substance abuse treatment facility.
>> And I have to wait a month just to go there. The wait list right now is for weeks, but I can get them expedited.
>> We can expedite you in there as quick as possible.
>> What's expedited? Can I go tomorrow?
>> I don't know, Mr. Brook. I mean, if I can get you there tomorrow, I will. I don't want to hold you just to hold you.
>> Just want this over with. Just want done with. I'm tired of this. I'm tired of this.
>> I want you to work the program honestly though. I want you to do it well.
>> Just want this done with already. Like, I'm tired of [laughter] this [ __ ] You need to understand that if you do well, the program will only be six months. If you don't respond well, it's going to be longer.
>> Program. I don't need a program. I'm not on drugs.
[snorts] >> How soon can you expedite it?
>> Uh, I can give it a week.
>> You know what? and and to update everybody and in the entire world.
You've sold me this story before and now 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 >> I've never told this since the last >> sixes later.
>> I've never picked up a case after I've been after I told you this.
>> Not playing this game with you again.
>> I'm not asking for any games. I'M NOT PLAYING ANY GAMES.
>> THAT'S IT. I'M SORRY, HONOR.
>> SORRY. I'll stop. I'm stop.
>> Okay. I'm setting your case for trial today. I do. Stop. Stop. I'm sorry. Can we talk to Okay.
>> Discovery complet >> uh on the ABI. Yes. On the mischief. I miss also it >> but we can set it.
>> Please get on.
>> The offer was originally it was >> I'm not taking no >> 13month deferred with T-R and RUA and no drugs.
>> That was the offer before the 30 days.
>> That's still on the portal. you're asking >> and chief, what case what case would you go forward on? [clears throat] >> At um at this time it would be the ABI.
Um unless I get discovery uh the surveillance on the mischief at that point if it's made available in time.
>> Who's who's the mischief against though?
>> Walmart is Walmart.
>> Oh, that's right. He goes in there and breaks a computer. [clears throat] >> Yeah, cuz he was using it for his personal stuff and >> um >> that's allegations.
>> So I I don't know, Mr. Brooker, if you want to reach out to Mr. Frasier now and look, they've said they're offering you a 13-month. You say deferred?
>> Deferred? Yes, sir. Uh, TAZ, RUA, is no drugs or alcohol.
>> Well, the TRZ is already done.
>> Well, TZ and conditions. So, the conditions that what it what it suggested was status. So, that that would be >> so your composure.
>> This is the offer. The offer is a 13-month deferred, which is a chapter probation that if you complete successfully, you don't end up with a conviction. That is on the assault. They will dismiss the criminal mischief. As part of the probation though, you will be doing the substance abuse treatment facility. That's what we're asking you to do. And if you take that, you can.
You don't have to. But if you don't, I'm going to set your case for trial. We will go on one or both of the trials and on one of them which are whichever one you're found guilty if you're found guilty [snorts] you will go to the SATF program.
>> Isn't [clears throat] Is there any way that I can take substance abuse classes while on probation and do that like an outpatient while on probation instead of going to SAT and then do >> No. No.
>> I don't understand why not.
>> I know you want to get out, but if I let you out and try to do the substance abuse thing outside, you're not going to do it.
>> Okay. If I'm a court mandator, yes, I will.
>> No. How do you I I did everything else >> because you take off on me now when I let you out now.
>> I didn't take off. I did what I had to do. I went down there. I didn't take off.
>> Fisting match with you again.
>> I did not take off though.
>> You either take it.
>> I did not take off. I showed up to court exactly on on the 29th exactly like I did like like was requested. I showed up.
>> Serenity now.
>> What?
>> Mr. Frasier >> showed up.
>> You know what the deal is? They've offered you the deferred. If you want to take it, you can do it and we can try to expedite you into the SATA program. If you don't want to do it, we'll just set your case for trial and we'll do it the long way. So, when would trial do you?
>> I don't know. 30 days at least because he's got to subpoena witnesses.
I have to give him time to subpoena witnesses. So, at the fastest I could get you in for trial is 30 days.
[snorts] But I'm telling you this, I'm going to go to trial on the assault.
I don't know what's going to happen.
>> Oh, I know.
>> You're found guilty on the assault. If you're found not guilty on the assault, 100% go. We're going right then and there. Right after we're going to right trial on the criminal.
>> That's fine.
>> Warn right after.
>> I know I didn't assault anybody.
>> Okay. Well, then I can't take anything from you then if you're telling me you're not guilty.
[snorts] >> And how long will it be till I can go into the status program?
>> A week. It'll be a week if I can expedite it.
>> A week. Today's Friday. So, >> and I'll order them to expedite it so that we can get you in in a week. And then when you're in the program though, like I told you, if you're acting like this to me like you are to them, what do you think's going to happen?
>> So, what is it? What type of facility?
Is it like in jail or?
>> It's a treatment facility where you're going to meet with people on a regular basis, talk about issues.
>> Is it a program? Is it a facility or is it a jail?
>> It you're housed in a different facility. Okay.
>> It it it's Is it in a task casino? Where is it?
>> So, you're you're housed not in the jail here in downtown. They take you to a different facility, but you're not just free to leave. It's a different facility where you're it's it's rehab essentially, right? You're taken to a different facility. You meet with people on a regular basis to talk about substance abuse issues. They will routinely drug test you.
And depending on how well you respond, it could be six months, could be nine months. If you're butdding heads with me like you are now, it's going to be longer. It'll be a year and a half.
[snorts] >> Take your time. I know [clears throat] it's fine.
>> I want you to think about it though.
>> Fine. I'll take it because the longer I have to take, the longer I have to stay here. I don't want to be here.
Okay. [snorts] You ready to do it? Then I'm ready to do it with you.
>> That's fine. [clears throat] >> And I'm going to tell you now, I'm going to go visit you in Atasca.
I will personally go there to check on you to see how you're doing [snorts] because we can do that.
And if you're not doing well, they're going to end up filing a motion to revoke your probation and we're going to do it all over again. So, I want you to take and I want you to do it well.
>> Okay. If you want to write it up, we can do it.
>> Are you sure? Or do you want you want some time to think about it? I'm thinking let's uh get the word from defense before I Yeah. [clears throat] So he talk Mr. Ber can call and talk for sure any decisions on that.
>> Judge um thank you. I um spoke with Mr. Frasier. He wants to accept the offer now. Um my concern was that I'm not physically there and he made some statements that I find a little concerning. So I would like to be there when we do this. So, my request was going to be to set set it for a plea on Monday and um take care of it on Monday if that's permissible from the court.
>> Are we statements of self harm?
>> No, no, no. I mean, he he mentioned that he and I had not communicated and all of that and >> okay, you know, some other things, >> you know, it's Mr. Brooker. He's upset at me. So, don't take it personally.
It's not you, it's me. and he wants to get his way and when he doesn't get his way he kicks and screams and cries and that's what we've been dealing with for 5 years, right? It's so that's why I I like I don't fall I fall I I fell for it for I mean maybe two maybe three years but now I just I'm not going to do it anymore. So it's I think he's venting frustration >> so don't take it personally but [snorts] I'm happy to do it if you want to do it Monday. Absolutely. Of course.
>> Yes, sir. and I'm gonna call him one more time just to let him know how it it was all resolved. But I appreciate that.
That'll give me time to speak with him in person and we can go from there.
>> Um he's probably gonna be upset that we're rolling it to Monday, but hopefully he'll, you know, be understanding and we'll let him know. Um can can we still expedite it even though we don't So let him know, Mr. Brooker, that we're still going to expedite his placement into SAT. So even though he's pleading on Monday, we're still going to try to get him in within a week. The process has already started. Yes, sir.
I'll let them know.
>> Okay.
>> All right. Y'all have a good weekend.
>> Sir, you're charged with driving while intoxicated. You're facing up to six months in jail and or a $2,000 fine.
We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can or will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you, sir.
>> Okay. On September 8th, 2024, the officer was contacted by a witness who advised he observed the male sleeping in his truck at North Wayside Drive in East Freeway in Harris County, Texas. The officer observed defendant's vehicle parked at the location with the engine running. The defendant was going in and out of consciousness in the driver's seat with the keys in the [snorts] ignition. The officer observed a 12 oz Modello beer in center console and the defendant admitted to drinking. The officer >> alcohol in the car while he's driving.
>> Yes, your honor. and the officer [clears throat] observed poor balance, slurred speech, glossy eyes. Standard pills soiety tests were administered, HGN, [clears throat] six out of six, walk and turn five out of eight and one leg stand three out of four. Defendant was read DIC and refused breath. Blood search warrant was obtained and executed. Defendant was identified with Texas. [clears throat] >> No, your honor, >> Mr. Figuroa, I want you to understand that I'm going to do everything in my power to protect this city. If you don't believe me, ask Yasha. I put one of his clients in jail yesterday. And as unhappy as they were about it, I don't give a rats behind. I don't care if I offend you. If I offend all of America because I don't coddle. You're so naughty. You're so I don't care.
You have alcohol in the car allegedly while driving. I am now taking away your privilege to drive. You are not allowed to drive at all. Do you understand? You will be signing an affidavit with me today promising me you're not going to drive. And if I find that you do, I will have a contempt hearing. You'll be facing 6 months in jail and a $500 fine every time your happy ass gets into a car and drives. Do you understand?
I hope that you would understand that it's elementary that you're not supposed to have alcohol in the car and now you're going to pay a very dear price because I'm going to tell you living in a city as big as Houston without the ability to drive really really blows.
And now until I know that you absolutely appreciate the awesome privilege it is because it's not a right, it's a privilege.
If you drive, you'll be facing 6 months every time you drive. I'm also ordering you not to consume alcohol or illegal drugs. I'm going to randomly test you.
If I find that you're using any kind of alcohol or dope, likewise, you will go to jail. I'm not going to give you any any more PR bonds. So if you go to jail, you'll be stuck like Chuck in there until this thing is over with. Unless you have someone to bond you out, you understand?
Okay, Yasha, until I know that he absolutely appreciates it and I want some kind of proactivity to know. So until that point, no driving. That's it.
Okay. So whatever I can do, >> you also need to understand that having alcohol in the car, it's a minimum of five days in jail to any sentence that you get. Five days flat. One, two, three, four, five. No two for one, no three for one, no credit. Do you understand?
>> All right. Sign this affidavit. After that, we'll get you to Victoria to sign a reset. After that, you'll get with Rachel for your bond conditions and we'll put you on your way.
>> Okay. Thank you, Judge.
>> All right, judge. Page 20, come on up.
>> Yes.
No, just motion to sub today, huh?
>> Not today.
>> Wonderful. Good morning.
>> Good morning. [snorts] >> And who do we have here?
>> Uh, Marissa Wilson.
>> Good morning, Miss Wilson.
All right, Miss Wilson, you're charged with driving while intoxicated. You're facing up to 6 months in jail and or a $2,000 fine. We're going to do probable cause you have direct remain silent.
Anything you say can or will be used against you, ma'am.
>> On September 7th, 2024, officers observe defendants vehicle traveling 35 miles hour in a 60 mph zone between 7,400 and 8,400 block of KD Freeway in Harris County, Texas. Officers observed defendant also almost hit an 18-wheeler traveling the defendant's right and the defendant almost swerve into another passing vehicle. Defendant observed officers observed the defendant's registration to be expired as of November 2020 and a traffic stop was initiated. Defendant came inches from hitting the freeway wall while exiting and the officers made contact with the defendant, the driver and sole occupant of the vehicle. Officers observed a strong odor of alcoholic beverage, glossy [clears throat] eyes and slurred speech. Defendant stated she was going home and had five and was 44. The defendant read and [clears throat] refused breast. Officers located a half empty 750ml Jäger Memeister in the defendant's vehicle. A blood search warrant was obtained and executed. The defendant was identified by her Texas driver's license.
>> Did you say initially? Did I hear you that you said she had a suspended license?
>> She had registration expiration.
>> That's what it was. Okay.
>> Yes.
>> Um, where was the Meister? Was it within reach that so she's drinking while she's driving?
>> Oh, let me read the O.
>> Yeah, take your time.
While he's doing that, Miss Wilson, I'm going to find that there's probable cause to go forward with the case. I'm ordering you as a condition of your bond not to consume alcohol, illegal drugs, or unprescribed controlled medication.
I'm going to randomly test you. If I find that you're using anything, I'm going to put you in jail. You will not get any more PR bonds, ma'am. [snorts] You have a valid Texas driver license.
You're not allowed to drive.
And I want you to understand that I don't think anything makes me more upset than we have people driving like boneheads out there without a driver's license. And I'm going to tell you now, if I find that you drive, I will bring the wrath so hard that I'm going to sprout horns in the tail. That's how upset I'm going to be.
>> The or just says inside the defendant vehicles, I have empty all the meister.
Doesn't say where. Okay, Miss Wilson, you will be signing an affidavit with me today. I [snorts] don't care what's going on in your life. I don't care if there's an emergency. There's nothing you can tell me that you can justify getting into a car and driving whatsoever.
If you want a license or if you want to drive, go get a license, get liability insurance, and then we can talk. But until that point, don't do it. I don't care how tempted you are.
>> [clears throat] >> Let me ask you this. I I asked you if you have a Texas driver license. Do you have a driver's license from anywhere else? Okay, then that's what I'm All right. I'm going to have you come up here, swear to us that you're not going to drive. After that, I'll get you to Victoria. We'll have you sign a reset.
You'll get with Rachel for your bond conditions, and then after that, you're free to go. No drinking. Don't drive.
Okay. Thank you.
>> Page one.
>> We're going backwards.
[snorts] >> Abbas, come up.
I'm sorry.
>> Good morning, church.
>> No, it's not.
It's not. It most certainly is not.
>> It's a morning. Good. I guess that's a matter of perspective. You tell me here in about 5 minutes if it's good. Mr. Abbas, you've picked up a new case while you're on bond. You're now charged with interference to the duties of a public servant. You're facing up to six months in jail and or a $2,000 fine. We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you, sir. Mr. J, on September 9th, 2024, officers were dispatched to 3506 Burn River Drive on a call for stating that the defendant was banging on the door and refusing to leave. Defendant was sitting on the porch when the officers arrived and the defendant stated he was arrested the other day for criminal trespass at this location and he wanted his phone and keys back. The officer knocked on the door of the residence and did not get a reply. The officer told the defendant that he should not be at the residence and the defendant began to walk away.
Officers reached out to the complainant via cell phone and the complainant and a witness came to the door. The complainant, the homeowner and mother-in-law of the defendant stated she did not want the defendant on the property due to him being a drug addict.
Officers returned to his shop and discovered that the defendant had returned to the scene. Officers detained the defendant and was given a trespass war.
So, let's go through the timeline.
He picks up.
>> Okay. So, he picks up an interference and then a a felony possession case, right?
>> Yes, >> gets out of jail. It goes right back.
>> Yes. To the residence. Yes.
>> Had we ordered him not to go back?
>> I mean, regardless, he picked up a new case.
>> He did pick up a new case.
>> So, >> [clears throat] >> Guess what happens now that you picked up a new case? Want to take a guess?
>> Take a guess. You should be able to hear it behind you.
I am now revoking your bond and I'm taking you into custody.
Judge, I would like to say is that um >> there's nothing you can say right now.
You picked up a new case and I told you not to pick up a new case. So, he goes with you. I'll appoint your lawyer now.
You can tell the lawyer.
>> It's not a good day, though. Okay.
>> All right. page five.
>> Um, so 50,0001 on the interference and then on the PR bond a on the criminal trespass a a [snorts] g.
>> Yeah. Yeah. They give him a pure vox. No guys.
[snorts] [clears throat] [clears throat] Shtori, can you give me a solid? Set them up there. T-Rex, please.
>> On um a bus, >> please.
>> Uh, what page?
>> This one is on page five. Top of page five.
>> Thanks. [clears throat] Coa. Mr. Coa, you're charged with reckless driving. You're facing up to 30 days in jail and or a $500 fine. We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can or will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you, sir.
>> Yes, On September 5th, 2024, the officer observed the defendant's vehicle traveling at a high rate of speed, 89 miles per hour in a 65 mile per hour zone at 3900 block of East San Houston Tollway in Harris County, Texas. The [snorts] officer observed the defendant's vehicle swerve through traffic to maintain high speed and move from lane two to lane three to lane one in a reckless manner without signal, causing other vehicles to break. The defendant's vehicle came close to colliding with other vehicles while changing lanes when unsafe to do so. A traffic stop was initiated. Officers made contact with the defendant, the driver, and still occup. The defendant was IDed with his Texas driver's license.
Go ahead. I'm going to find that there's probable cause to go forward with your case. Do you have a valid Texas driver license? Do you have liability insurance in your name? I want proof before you leave here for today. Otherwise, I'm not going to let you drive. I'm making it a condition of your bond that you not participate in any more reckless driving, street takeovers, racing, boneheaded [clears throat] moves of this nature. Otherwise, the first thing I'm going to do is I will take away your privilege to drive. The second thing I'm going to do is I will put you in jail just like I did this past person. Do you understand?
Would you mind filing those conditions, please? Coa.
Coa. C.
No reckless driving and all that jazz.
reckless driving, racing, street takeovers, etc. [snorts] For now, I'm going to have you go to Victoria. I'm going to have you sign a reset. After that, I'm going to have you take a seat in the jury box while we wait for your lawyer to get here.
>> All right, judge. Next is page five formier.
>> So on this gentleman, it's Jason Johnson his lawyer. So when Mr. Johnson gets here, I'd like to see if he has insurance. Otherwise, no driving affidavit. Yeah, hold on it.
Mr. Cormier. Mr. Cormier, you're charged of driving while intoxicated. You're facing up to six months in jail and or a $2,000 fine.
Oh my goodness.
He's charged with two FSRAs.
>> You're facing up to six months in jail and or a $2,000 fine. We are going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can or will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present. If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you.
[clears throat] >> On September 7th, 2024, officers were dispatched to an FSR call at 1220 Britmore Road in Harris County, Texas.
Officers flagged down by a witness who pointed the officers in the direction of the defendant. The officers made contact with the defendant who was trying to take items out of the trunk of his vehicle. The defendant stated that two cars hit him, that he turned off into a private drive due to a busy street, that he lost control and went into a ditch, and that the vehicle belonged to his mother. Defendant stated he was not drinking. The defendant later stated he had one 16 ounce Bud Light, but that he was not drunk and he was good. Standard filing tests were administered. HGN four out of six, walk and turn two out of eight and one leg stand three out of four. Defendant was read DIC and consented to breath. Results were point48 and.131. Defendant was identified as Texas driver's license and officers made contact with the third complainant. The complainant stated defendant's vehicle came from a side street and the defendant struck his vehicle and the complainant complained of wrist pain. The damage to the third complainant's vehicle was approximately $20,000. Officers made contact with another complainant. The second complainant stated the defendant's vehicle took a U-turn, struck his vehicle, and the complainant complained of pelvic pain and head pain. The motor vehicle damage this complainant's vehicle was approximately $30,000.
The third complainant, the first complainant, a passenger complained of brick pain.
CB any prior?
He is the priority of your job.
>> Mr. Cormier, I'm going to find that there's probable cause to go forward with your case. Do you have a Texas driver license? Oh my god. Do you have Tell me you have liability insurance.
>> My insurance is policy just went up in August last month.
>> Do you have >> [snorts] >> If I send you now for a drug test, what's going to show up?
>> I'm sending you now for a drug test. You must come right back. If you do not come back, your bonds now are I I'm a shock that your bonds are only $3,000 on your second These are seconddegree felonies, right?
>> These are years.
>> Say it again.
>> Yeah, it's one of those hyper felonies.
>> I'm sending you now for a drug test. You must come right back, Mr. Cormier. If you do not come back, I'm going to secure bond at around 10 times what your felony bonds are at. Do you understand?
At that point, we're going to go forward, but I'm ordering you now as a condition of your bond not to drive. If I find that you drive and I'm going give a rats behind what you're doing, I will have a contempt hearing. You'll be facing up to six months in jail and or a $500 fine. Every time you drive, do you understand? I don't care what your excuses. I don't care where you're going. I don't care if Jesus needs a ride to church. you drive. Holy moly.
I'm going to light you up like you've never seen before.
I want him to go take a drug test right now and then we'll have him come right back. I'm going to have you sign a reset. Hold on. Before he leaves, I'm going to have him sign this affidavit so I can hold his ass in contempt if he tries to draw him.
[clears throat] All right. I'm going to have you come up here, swore test drive. I'm going to have you sign a reset and go take a drug test.
>> So, are you This is Mr. Cormier.
This is the one where that we have at least is it three people that were pretty badly injured, right? At least two. two injuries.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Okay, Mr. Cormier, I don't want you out in the middle of the night. I'm now going to put an ankle monitor on you so that I know that you're not out in the middle of the night. On one ankle, you're going to get a monitor so I know you're not so I know that you're not consuming alcohol. On the other one, you're get a GPS monitor and I'm giving you a curfew of 9:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m.
If I find you out, I'm going to lock you up and I'm going to make your bond so very high, it's ridiculous. Do you understand? I will do everything in my power to protect every person of Harris County. And if that means locking you up at 100,000, I'll do it in a heartbeat.
Do you understand? Yes, sir.
>> Um, do you work?
When is the last time you've had a job?
>> What were you doing?
>> Company.
>> Why did you lose your job?
>> HR problems.
I was with HR about my performance and crime.
>> Okay. It's time for you to get another job. Yes, sir. [snorts] >> And now also making that a condition of your bond. I want to know that you're working, not out doing nothing. Too much time on your hands, you become self-destructive, and I'm not going to have it. So, I'll appoint your lawyer today, Mr. Permier, but I'm bringing you back in two weeks, and I want to know what you've done to get a job. If you've done nothing, it's just not going to go well between you and I. So, take a hint.
I'll have you sign or you he's already signed a reset with you. So, for now, I'm going to have you sign your conditions with Rachel. After that, I'm going to have you take a seat in the jury box while your lawyer. All right.
All right, page [snorts] 10. Kelly, come on up.
[snorts] >> Good morning, Mr. Kelly.
Sir, you're charged with driving while intoxicated. You're facing up to six months in jail and or a $2,000 fine.
We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can or will be used against you.
>> You have the right to have an attorney present if you cannot afford one. One will be appointed to you, sir.
>> On September 6, 2024, officers observed the defendant's vehicle run a red light near 25200 Interstate Highway 10 in Harris County, Texas. Traffic stop was initiated. Defendant's vehicle drove approximately a/4 mile before stopping.
The defendant exited the driver's side of the vehicle and the vehicle appeared to be in reverse as it moved backwards almost striking the police vehicle.
Defendant walked around to the front of his vehicle and began >> [clears throat] >> urinating. Defendant stated he was driving home from hanging out with friends and the officer observed strong odor of alcoholic beverage and slurred speech. The defendant stated he had taken oxycodone and Valium which were prescribed to him for back surgery and injury. Standard pill soiety tests were administered. HGN 6 out of six walk and turn two out of eight. The one leg stand was not completed due to D not understanding the instructions.
Defendant was read DIC and consented to blood. Defendant stated he doesn't usually take pills because he passes out. Defendant was identified with his Texas driver's license.
>> So you said that the pills were because of back surgery.
>> Yes. I have a >> told the officer they were prescribed for a back.
>> When was the back surgery? What year?
>> Uh last year, but I just recently um had to go into Methodist Hospital in Baytown where I live at and they prescribed me some um because I have a my spinal cord is st in the back.
I have prescriptions through Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or Walgreens or that can be pulled.
>> I get it. But those prescript those prescriptions can still be abused. And if you get in a car, fall asleep, and get in a car, you on 59 610, you kill someone. This is the um first time that I've been prescribed this.
[snorts] [clears throat] I can't believe that they still prescribe that garbage, man. It's just so so [clears throat] it's so addicting. It's so so addicting. I cannot believe with what all the pharmaceutes that they have today that they're still prescribing that stuff.
>> No, my only thing, Mr. Kelly, is that I don't know if I want you taking it just because how how easy it is to get addicted is oxy. It's so I mean, one to two times you take the pill, that's it.
I mean, you'll never stop.
prescribe it to me.
>> I don't care what they prescribe. They shouldn't be doing it. They stopped it.
They've taken it completely off the market. They stopped making oxycodone I don't know how to do this, Pavl. I I don't know how to go forward on this.
No, >> I'm not sure uh judge because we can't really test like therapeutic doses.
They'll just say something's in their system, right? So even if we want to just take therapeutic doses, >> it wouldn't be >> I want you to explore alternate methods other than oxycottton.
>> Okay. Well, that's what I was trying to explain. They put me on it. I was um originally doing pain management and they had me on Norcco hydrocodone and they switched me from that when I went into Methodist hospital recently with the back pain. They put me on that because he said the doctor said it was getting worse. But I only take a half a pill. I don't take a whole pill because as you can see I'm a small guy. So any dose of medication >> doesn't matter. I mean, of course, it matters the quantity of the pill, but the problem is not it's the pill in and of itself because it's so terribly addicting that once you start taking it, it's it's so very difficult to get off.
And the problem is is that when the doctors stop prescribing it for you, you're going to do damn near anything to get your hands on it. And if that means I mean, I've seen robbing drugstores.
I've seen people do anything to get their hand. That's how addicting it is.
It's absolutely nuts. And the amount of people since its inception that have died from Oxy, it's that's why the family that used to be worth billions of dollars, billions of dollars has now declared bankruptcy because they've gotten sued so many times. Oxy has now been discontinued as a production. They don't make it. So that's why I'm I'm telling them prescribed that they're still I'm I'm I'm just surprised that they're still, you know, prescribing it because they shouldn't. There are other methods to deal with the pain other than that super addicting drug. And what do you do for a living, Mr. Kelly?
>> I'm disabled.
>> Do you have an income?
>> Yes, I do. What is your income,000 a month?
>> I'm going to appoint your lawyer today.
>> I'm going to My family's going to hire one.
My mother's here in court. She um already agreed to >> What do you mean your mother's still in court?
>> She's here in court. She's agreed to help me um by her.
>> Come on, ma'am. Your That's mom.
>> Yes. To pay for an attorney.
Thank you so very much for coming. This is [clears throat] great.
Thank you so much for coming, man. It scares me what he's taking. It really really scares me because the the chance for abuse, it's about it's 100%. It they're so strong. They're so potent, the pills that once you start taking it, it's like Pringles. you you just can't stop, you know? I mean, that's how incredibly addicting it is.
And they they stopped making it because of all the people that were dying because of the abuse that it used to the people used to abuse it so bad that I mean, they were dropping left and right.
The problem is is that you start taking it and you build up a crazy tolerance to it, right? So, what you do, you keep taking it, you keep taking it, keep you keep taking it and at some point you will put your lungs to sleep, right? Not knowing it. You didn't intend it, but you put your body to sleep and you just never wake up because it's so powerful and you you develop such a craving, such a such a madness to have it. You're just going to keep taking keep taking it and you put yourself to sleep. I've seen it time and again over and over and over.
So they this family that was worth billions is now bankrupt because that's how bad it is.
I [clears throat] and I don't know how to go forward because I want him to stop and I don't want him to take it, but at some point I also want him to be able to deal with the pain and the management of that pain, but there's got to be another way.
>> He just recently went to uh Methodist Hospital cuz he his blood pressure was high. When the blood pressure go high, they know that he's in pain. So he has chronic pain and when his blood pressure goes high they know that he's in pain.
He just recently [clears throat] went to Memphis. We live in Baytown and he just recently went there.
Actually the night after he got out of jail.
>> We have to explore another way.
>> No, I have to.
>> There's there's I'm going to I'm going to test you like crazy. I'm telling you now. I'm going to test you like crazy.
And I see that you continue to take opiates. It's >> Well, I haven't taken it since that night that I was arrested. I haven't taken it anymore.
>> So, I can appoint you a lawyer today if you'd like me to do that. Ma'am, >> we going to get one.
>> Okay.
>> Uh Bassie. Uh that's his first name.
Bassie. What's his last name?
>> No, that's fine. You know, um if you want, like I said, I'm willing to give you a free lawyer today or you can go hire one. It's up to you guys. But >> um >> Mr. Kelly, do you have a do you have a Texas driver license?
>> Do you have a liability insurance in your name?
>> Yes, I do.
>> Earn his license, please, for me.
>> Okay.
>> And I have >> I'm going to tell you I I I don't know if I want you driving if you're taking oxy. I'm going to tell you now because it just it scares me too much that you're going to abuse it and the same thing's going to happen that happened now.
So, I'm if you're going to take it, I'm not going to let you drive.
>> We have to help one another because I'm actually moving to him because I have [clears throat] sometime I I'm going to a doctor myself because I've been kind of forgetting and feel like I'm I need help. So, we we helping one another. He helped me a lot. I don't cook anymore. So he helps me cook and we just kind of help each other out.
>> So Mr. Kelly, I'm warning you not to consume alcohol, illegal drugs, unprescribed controlled medication. I want to know at the very I'm going to put an ankle monitor on him so I know that he's not consuming alcohol because if he's taking Oxy or taking any kind of painkillers like that, alcohol just makes it so crazy worse. I want to know at the minimum that you're not consuming alcohol. I'm going to put a monitor on your ankle so I know that you're not coming. I'm going to pay for it for you.
So, it's nothing out of your pocket. But it scares me what you're doing. I'm telling you now, it scares me. And it scares me even more that you have access to a 4,000 lb projectile that if you fall asleep, you're going to kill someone. And that's what we don't want to happen. I don't want that blood on my hands. And it's just, you know, Oxy so powerful that even an eighth of a pill will intoxicate you.
Um, [snorts] get on finding a lawyer quick because there's a lot of timing requirements with your license. Don't wait. If you are really going to hire a lawyer, you need to get on it quick. Don't wait because you're only hurting yourself.
Okay? Be careful. Like I said, there's got to be an alternate way. And I want to explore that.
You have any questions, guys?
Okay, Mr. Kelly, be careful. I'm not going to put up with it. I'm telling you now. If I test you and you're testing positive, it's only one thing's going to happen.
Just be careful. Okay, guys. I'm going to have you sign a reset with Victoria, and then I'm going to have you meet with Rachel, our um pre-trial services office, and then you guys are free to go. Thanks.
from >> Are you Deshawn Lewis?
>> Yes, sir.
>> Mr. Lewis, you're charged with criminal mischief. You're facing up to a year in jail and or a $4,000 fine. We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can or will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present.
If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you.
On September 5th, 2024, officers were dispatched in reference to a disturbance of weapons at 9006 North Victory Drive in Harris County, Texas. [clears throat] Officers made contact with the complaining witness and the officer observed the complaining witness. The vehicle had front windshield, rear window, front right window, front left window, two rear left windows, and two rear right windows broken. The complaint stated being accused of stealing something from the residence and that the defendant broke windows using a shovel. The damages to the vehicle were approximately $1,500. Officer made contact with the defendant. The defendant stated he got a phone call from his brother uh arguing and heard in the background with the complaining witness. Defendant said he arrived at the residence and the complaining witness ran up to his truck with an iron pipe and busted two back windows. The defendant stated complaining witness had broken windows on brother's vehicle as well. Defendant stated he [clears throat] was angry, grabbed a shovel and smashed the windows on complaining vehicle. Defendant was detained and ID with his text Texas ID.
>> Louis, are you on probation of parole at this time?
[snorts] Sir, I'm going to find that there's probable cause to go forward on your criminal mischief. I'm ordering you as a condition of your bond not to consume alcohol, illegal drugs, or unprescribed controlled medication. I'm going to randomly test you. If I find that you're consuming anything, I'm going to put you in jail. Do you understand? Yes, sir.
>> I'm also ordering you not to have any contact with the complaining witnesses in this case and not to possess any weapons as well.
You're incapable of staying out of trouble. Just incapable of staying out of trouble.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 and now case number 34. Four.
What do we need to do to get you to exercise self-control?
[snorts] [clears throat and cough] You have a job.
Okay. That's why you don't have shy going on in your life and as a result you have way too much time on your hands and so you become self-destructive and what do you do? Just smoke weed all day?
Is that all you do?
>> Really? I'm sending you for a drug test now. You want to you want to bet money on it?
You ready to put some money on it? I'm sorry. You want to put some jail on it?
Really?
You have way too much time on your hands, Mr. Lewis, and it's time for you to become a productive member of society. I am now making it a condition of your bond that you get a job. And I'm bringing you back here in two weeks to see what you have done to get a job. And if you've done nothing, life between you and me are not going to go well. And I'm just going to keep revoking your bond.
And at some point, someone's going to stop poning the money to get you out.
But if it takes me to make your bond 50 to 100 to 150,000, I'll do it in a heartbeat because I don't care who I offend.
And I don't care if I make you mad. Do you understand? But it stops now.
You had a prior BMV with me two years ago, about a year ago, and I guess I didn't really get into the nitty-gritty with you. I am now, and it stops now.
And I'm going to tell you now, so two weeks to be back. If you have nothing and you've done nothing, get ready to say with me, Mr. Lewis. I'm going to for now, I'm going to have you meet with Rachel. You're ordered not to consume alcohol.
And I'm going to tell you now, I don't care if you test positive for weed, but 35 to 40 days from today, I will test you again. And if you test positive for marijuana, that's it.
>> No, I'm not going to drug test him now because I don't care. I'm just But I'll test him about 35 to 40 days and if he tests positive at [snorts] that point >> in the clink. All right, Mr. Lewis, see you in two weeks.
>> Page 12. Ra >> no contact and no contact with complaining witness and no weapons as well [laughter] [snorts] >> Jared page 18.
[snorts] [clears throat] How you doing, your honor?
>> Morning, >> sir. Give me one second. I'm almost done. Um, so this is for Mr. Dean. Once he signs this, at that point, they can go.
>> Thank you.
>> Okay. And what was your last name, sir?
>> We w >> page 18.
>> Got it. All right. Good morning, Mr. Webb. Sir, you're charged with criminal mischief. You're facing up to a year in jail and or a $4,000 fine. We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can or will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present.
If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you, sir.
[snorts] >> Watch surveillance, install the defendant, approximately 238, open his gas tank, and pour an unknown substance into the tank. The defendant crouched down next to the rear driver's side tire, and struck the undercarriage with an unknown object. The defendant [clears throat] then leaves the complainant's driveway. The mechanics found a white crystal-like substance inside the gas tank of the complainant's vehicle. Furthermore, the mechanics found out that the complainant's brake line clips had been opened. In total, the complainant sustained approximately $1,53 in damages.
>> There's surveillance. Can we see that video?
>> You will.
>> Oh, now's not the time.
>> That just never happened. So, >> regardless, >> that's cool. They got surveillance.
>> Mr. Web, can you imagine because this accusation still stands against you and I want you to consider one thing. I don't know if you did or not. I wasn't there. But the allegations are pretty bad, especially considering a brake line cut. Can you imagine this dude gets on a freeway, he's driving at 75 miles an hour, gets an accident.
>> Yeah, that never happened, though.
>> That's all a lie.
>> Accusation that >> the manslaughter still goes against you.
>> I mean, not for a madeup story, but I understand.
The DAs, there's a there's an adage, an old adage goes that the DA's, the district attorney's office can indict a ham sandwich. Have you ever heard of that?
>> Yeah. They can do whatever they want.
>> And then guess who's out a whole crapload of money, hiring lawyers, going through bond conditions, just giving you a little >> Mr. Webb, you're Well, like I said, I'm going to find that there's probable cause to go forward with the case. I'm ordering you now as a condition of your bond not to have any contact with this person. This is just a mere probable cause hearing.
>> Okay. That's what I was wondering. I thought y'all were sentencing to me today. I'm like, >> "No, no, >> Mr. Web. Probable cause is a very, very low standard."
>> Okay.
>> There's a difference between probable cause and beyond a reasonable doubt.
Right. A huge difference. So, this is just a probable cause hearing to see if it goes forward. At that point going forward, they're going to have to produce documentation to prove that it was you in the county. It was done and in the manner that they say it was done.
>> Okay?
>> So, but you got to be patient because this stuff doesn't happen overnight. It takes time for the get it takes time for them to get evidence. So, just be patient. At that point, at some point, you'll get everything and you'll be able to see all the evidence that's being held against you.
>> Oh, awesome.
>> Regardless, you need a lawyer to represent you. So, we're going to reset your case to give you time to hire a lawyer. In the interim, do not have any contact with this person. Don't go anywhere near where they live, where they work, and don't be in possession any weapons. That's all I'm asking you to do. And don't pick up any new cases.
>> As long as you can abide by these conditions, you will be fine.
>> All right.
>> Okay. So, I'm going to have you sign a reset with Victoria. After that, I'm going to have you take a seat in the jury box. We get your bond conditions, we'll have you signed, and after that, you'll be free to go.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> Okay, Mr. W. Come on.
>> This way.
So, no contact, no weapons, no going within 200 feet of where he lives, works on the chest, please.
>> That was our last ar.
>> All right. Can I have a seat in the jury box?
>> What happened to you?
>> Um, I got run over and shot.
>> Got run over.
>> Yeah. Yes, sir.
How'd that happen?
>> I was at a party and everybody started shooting at themselves and I got caught at the wrong place, wrong time.
>> Everybody's shooting and so everybody like takes off like rats. Boom.
>> Yeah, >> that's the wrong part of shooting at each other.
>> I was just at the wrong place, wrong time. I had nothing to do with me. I just ended up getting shot and ran over.
>> Wait, you got shot, too?
>> Yeah. Yes, sir.
>> Where'd you get shot?
>> In the leg.
>> You're lucky to be alive, man. Yeah, I know.
>> I wouldn't go back to these parties.
That's what's going to happen, you know.
>> Yes, sir.
>> Mr. Jimenez, you're charged with criminal trespass. You're facing up to 6 months in jail and or a $2,000 fine.
>> You guys have worked out an agreement.
They're offering you three days in jail, credit for the 11 days that you've done.
Understand this charge will go on your record. It's going to be there for the rest of your life. You can never take it off. You also need to understand from now on, you're facing up to 30 days in jail. I'm sorry. You're facing a minimum of 30 days in jail for any new cases that you pick up. Do you understand? So, you want to do this still? You're giving up the right to a trial, right to compel witnesses, judgement of behalf, confront and cross-examine your accusers. If you're not a citizen, there are possible immigration consequence. You can be deported, excluded from the country, deny naturalization. You give up the right to appeal. Once you plead guilty, you can never change this or undo this.
You understand?
>> All right. How do you plead, sir?
>> I'll find you guilty. I'll send it you to it. Good luck. Thank you, Alan.
Take care.
>> All right, judge. Page nine.
>> Jordan Green, come up.
[clears throat] You tell me in about five minutes if it's good. It's a morning, but I don't know if it's good. You tell me in five minutes if it's good. Mr. agreeing. You now stand charged with a new case. You were on bond for driving while intoxicated. You now have picked up interference with emergency request for assistance and that is a class A misdemeanor. You're facing now a year in jail and/or a $4,000 fine. We're going to do probable cause. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can or will be used against you. You have the right to have an attorney present.
If you cannot afford one, one will be appointed to you, sir.
September [snorts] 6th, 2024 in Harris County, Texas at 8506 West Highlands Crossing. Officer was dispatched to a residence where he spoke to the complaining witness, the father of the defendant. Complaining witness stated the defendant had a personal argument with him about not being able to speak a different language. Complaining witness stated the argument began to escalate and he wanted to call the police.
Complaining witness stated the defendant grabbed his cell phone, stopping him from calling the police. Complaining witness had to drive his vehicle to the fire station approximately half a mile to call for law enforcement.
All this because who wanted to speak a different lang?
>> Said the complainant the defendant wanted to speak a different language I believe with the complaining witness.
>> I don't think I've heard something as silly as this in a long time. Mr. green.
I'm going to find that there's probable cause to go forward in with your case.
Guess what happens now?
Guess.
Let me ask you this, Mr. Green. Is it a good morning?
Nope. All I ask you to do is stay out of trouble. You've now picked up a new case. So, I'm revoking your bond on the DWI and I'm keeping you with me. It goes with you.
I'm approaching Jordan.
So, um, Pavl just did the RIP because dad is here. Um, my client was recently diagnosed with bipolar earlier this week and the state said they're going to um, >> come up, dad. Your dad.
Your dad. Come on up.
>> Are you step? Are you the real father?
>> Step. What's the relation?
>> I'm dad.
>> You real biological father?
>> Okay, great.
>> Um, and uh he recently got out of the National Guard.
>> Oh, wow. So, it's just going downhill.
And so they they've talked to dad everything out. My client and his father have talked everything out and they're in a good place.
In light of >> um don't I remember something in you saying something that he has drug issues?
Don't believe I don't see anything in the summary.
>> Here's So what we do is it Mr. Green, >> Mr. Green, what we do is we admonish everyone here. When you pick up a case, be good. Don't do anything. Don't do anything to violate conditions whatsoever because if you do, we put you in jail.
>> Right. And he not, you know, one month has passed less than he picked up a new case. So we have now I put him in jail.
>> I understand. But he's a good kid and never had no problem until when he got out just >> something is going on with Mr. Green though.
>> We just came from the doctor uh when it think that the 10 or something like that. They diagnosed him with bipolar.
>> So >> is he self-medicating with other issues with other things?
>> I think he smoked weed.
The TWWI is charged as a DWI with weed or TAC.
>> Okay. No, but in the inter in the interference case, didn't you say something that there was or am I thinking of someone else?
>> Maybe this piece didn't language, >> right? Oh, okay. All right. Um, >> a second >> I want him to understand that we mean business and that he cannot just continue to run him up without there being any kind of consequence. He picked up a really serious charge. This is a class A. He's facing a year in jail. Um, what I can do is I can make you a plan that I want him to understand that we mean business. And what I can do is I can keep him over the weekend early next week. We can release him to your custody if you want.
>> Yeah.
>> How would he get his medicine medication?
>> They have doctors in the jail and we can have him either sent to medical so that they can have him evaluated there as well. But if I let just let him out now, then [clears throat] it's basically enabling him and telling him it's okay to do continue to do. And it's not. You just can't continue to pick up cases.
>> You know, >> there's no bond.
>> No, there bonds are set. There are bonds that are set. And if you want to, you can bond them out. But I'm telling you now, if you come to me on Monday, you know, one of the worst parts about being in jail, there's no clocks, there's no windows, everybody smells like holy hell. It's it's a miserable experience. And when you don't have an expected release state, that really has something to do with your psyche. It really does something to you. If you know that you're going to get out at a certain point, all you're doing is you're wishing, you're hoping, but if you don't have that expected release date, it really plays a number on you.
>> Last time was a day you don't want to go back. So, >> right, but he didn't get it. So, hopefully now if he doesn't know that he's going to get out, he will truly understand that we mean business. And that's what I'm what I'm trying to impart to you is that if you go back there and tell him I'm going to let him out Monday or Tuesday, then it's not going to be the same thing as he as is is if he knows that there's no expected release date.
But if you come to me on Monday, I'll release him to you.
>> Just come back in Monday.
>> Yeah.
>> Tell me about where he's living though now. Is he living with you? What is he doing?
>> Yeah, he's living with us.
>> Okay. us from from birth.
>> Is he is he working? What's going on with his life?
>> He had a job at the hospital and I guess because of whatever like he >> [snorts] >> uh his temp or whatever.
>> Um did he graduate from high school? He did graduate from high school, right?
And I guess is the National Guard still open and he's still in it as it >> as far as I know. Yeah.
>> Okay. Um we'll roll this case over to Monday. Okay. You know what I want him to see is, you know, when we bring people out in orange and dad is standing next to them, >> it really plays a big part in it as well. you know, and what I'm going to do is is I will let him know at that point that I'm going to release him to you and that you're basically staying on top of him and one false move again, it's going to happen right back where he's going to go back and this time I'm not going to let him out >> and hopefully he'll get the message.
>> But there has to be some consequence. It just can't.
>> Stephen um on Mr. green. He's taking >> the his dad had informed me I was going to put it in the the notes in the booking notes if that's the way we're going.
>> Great. So that way you know that we're going to get into medical so he's not going to just be thrown into general population and just be forgotten about.
We'll take care of him but he still has you know I want him to understand that we mean business that we're not here to play around.
>> Okay.
>> So great. We'll see you Monday.
>> Same place. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we start here early, so I'll be here 8:45 Monday and go from there.
>> Monday. Okay. Thank you.
>> Thank you so much for coming, Mr. Green.
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