LISTEN: Pentagon Releases Audio Of Apollo 12 Crew Recounting 'Streaks Of Light'

Added: 2026-05-23

[00:00:00]a little bit there.

[00:00:02]>> Uh listen, we read this paragraph in here about these quotes coronal discharges that you guys were seeing and and that that completely stops us. Tell tell us what how this came about and who who talked to you about and what it and what you saw.

[00:00:19]>> Reported it on somebody reported on one of the earlier flights that uh some guy up I got the letter paperwork somewhere.

[00:00:27]They shipped it down and made the cape about two things where the VH radio noises which could be discharged from some place in space and the other one were I thought it was flight but their eyes closed they noticed them when they were awake at night the spacecraft was dark and they thought they were in the spacecraft but whoever this guy was said no that's a perfectly known phenomenon you can get discharge across your eyes from gamma rays or something. So he had a bunch of things. Would we close our eyes and face the moon, you know, when we were orbiting it because it would be more we get less discharges facing the moon than away from us. But you don't have to be anywhere near the moon or anywhere the first night outing.

[00:01:19]And if you if you keep your eyes closed and you're awake down there and it's dark and you think about it, when it happens, you can cut your hat. You can you can pin down and it's one eye. It's not a discharge that you see in both eyes. You really see it with one eye or the other eye. And you can see what kind it is. We had two kind. I guess the part will either strike the eyeball perpendicular or or it discharges parallel. And we get either a a flash like that or we get a streak.

[00:01:48]And uh and I know I either got a flag or a for some reason got more with my left eye than my right eye, but I could tell which guy it was when I was concentrating on it. I'm trying to tell you the reason he did is because his where he slept was always on the left side of the spacecraft and I caught all the right.

[00:02:22]>> They should have protected you, Dick.

[00:02:24]They should have all They should have picked them all up.

[00:02:26]these type you didn't hear about this because we were asked to specifically experiment with this type of boen.

[00:02:48]>> I I remember their their conversation about it. charge. They thought it was something, you know, penetrating the spacecraft.

[00:02:57]>> What Pete described is the exact phenomena that all three of us see a light out there or sometimes it be a street and I saw them in both eyes, either eye and I can't remember if there was one more predominant than the other, but I agree with Pete. It's a phenomenon that you're not seeing with both eyes. It's not something external to you. It's something inside they know it's a completely known known phenomena.

[00:03:29]>> Well, we've been looking for uh cosmic rays, you know, cosmic ray strikes and uh heavy heavy particles, heavy nuclei that that go through. You know, we started at clear back of Mercury taking photographs of the retina to see if you could see streaks across the retina and stuff. We never could find any in there.

[00:03:46]And so we stopped that up early in the well by the end of the >> your eye is what a fancyer on your body and if it's doing anything you're never going to see it by the time you get a guy back going to see it is if you photograph it right after a particle by >> well probably what what it's doing anyway it's probably hitting just a single cell and uh yeah that's all it' have to do particularly make this flash you know you hit a single cell >> I saw one night looking at the MDP a handrail up above the one right right along I don't know where it went here you know right straight along I handrail for about that that's just I just had to be looking at that you could almost see him at will >> you close your eyes >> what I want to see you open one eye see it >> you didn't believe it at first you on the earth and I had seen them and plat they said remember the mission you wake up at night you say well see you close your eyes come about one minute >> uh let me ask you one more question about heart uh oh here >> were these random distribution of these or did they seem to be fairly horizontal >> okay Were these were these things random or did they all seem to be in one direction? Like were they always horizontal or were they at random? They could be at any kind of angle.

[00:05:26]>> But the streets I saw were one light horizontal.

[00:05:30]>> I was going to say that's interesting.

[00:05:31]Mine, it seemed to me I had the impression that they were always roughly in the same place and mine were horizontal. The horizontal streaks were always, if I knew where I was looking, it always seemed like the horizontal streak was a little bit above the center. And it always seemed to me it went from right to left. No matter which eye it was in, the uh the uh discharges were more towards the center and it would be just a it was just like a pinpoint of light would close again >> like somebody was flashing a light at you.

[00:06:06]>> That's right.

[00:06:19]Is that about the same for both of you?

[00:06:22]>> Is that the same uh reaction you had Dick and Al? The way Pete described it?

[00:06:29]>> Yeah, mine were about 30 degrees horizontal, but they were coming. I didn't notice them from the right or left.

[00:06:37]That's pretty >> but about the same. They seem to appear about the same place.

[00:06:44]>> No, >> the ones the horizontal ones that I saw were generally above eye level.

[00:06:55]>> Now I I don't know. I can't include any other I can't remember. I just don't remember any of them being down on the lower part of you. seen that dick telling you about that with his eyes open and and other things that he sent his eye on the lights on the instrument panel. But I used to notice them the most when I was down there in that sleeping bag. It was pitch black down there in the hole. It wouldn't make any difference whether my eyes were open or closed and I could lay there for I used to kill time that way for a half an hour and either open them or close them and wait and sure enough after a while you'd get one. And then I'd sit there for a while and say, "Okay, was it in the left eye or the right eye?" It took you a while to sort it out. And but you usually figure out which eye it was in. Now you know what to do when you're supposed to be sleeping on.

[00:07:44]>> Yeah.

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