This video presents a debate about institutional racism in British society, where one speaker argues that police forces and legal systems are designed to privilege ethnic minorities over native citizens, citing examples like police training to believe non-white individuals and exemptions for religious ceremonial knives, while the opposing speaker defends these policies as necessary for addressing historical injustices and promoting equality.
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One of my least favorite [ __ ] liibs is Jeremy Vine. He is insufferable. And Martin in Lincolnshire rang up his show and laid out the issues with the Henry Novak case. He explained very clearly that actually, yeah, this is racial.
It's coming from the top. And Jeremy Vine does not want to hear it. So, I thought we'd give it a watch.
>> Case.
>> Morning, Jeremy. Two quick things on the police and on the knife. Firstly, the police were doing what they were trained to do from the top down, probably from the home office down. They're told and trained to always believe the non-white guy and basically demiss dismiss the white guy. Oh, >> look at his face. Look at his face. Just Oh god, this sounds really bad from the [ __ ] perspective. Look.
Oh, he's wincing. It's wincing hearing how the demonstrable truth that the Hampshire and Isisle of white constabularary absolutely are told from the top down that they need to have racial awareness and positive discrimination in favor of non-white.
And he's literally their action plan is Hampshire and out of white constabularary is anti-racist in all it does and it's got all sorts of improving outcomes for ethnic minorities doing all of these things recruiting from them increasing our contact from them. This is intrinsic to this. And they tell us they have a race action plan for Christ's sake. But oh w Jeremy V. Well, that can't possibly be true, can it?
>> The white guy.
>> So that what I would call it, >> but they wouldn't be trained to do that, would they? But they trained.
>> No, no, no. Jeremy, they are literally trained. They are literally trained. is literally their action plan is to make their police officers aware and focused on race so they can discriminate on those grounds. That's exactly what they do. It comes from the top. Your coping and seething over Martin here is false.
It is not true at all. And Martin is correct categorically. Moving on to prioritize racist things that are a racially aggravated as they would call it. But yeah, but >> nope, that's not what they say. It's not about things being racially aggravated.
As they say here, understanding the impact, trauma, and police history of policing ethnic minority communities in Hampshire, understanding and reducing our disproportionality. This this isn't this is not what you're talking about, is it? Improving outcomes and support for ethnic minority victims of crime, increasing our contact, and involving ethnic minority communities. No, it's not about things being racialized as they're the victims of them. It is the nature of the difference that they have been trained to view.
>> In this case, it's backfired. So, this this what I would call reverse racism needs to be addressed.
>> I don't even need to call it reverse racism. It's just institutional racism against the white population of Britain.
That's all this is.
But on the knife, I was called to jury duty in Lincoln a few years ago, Crown Court, and I read the paperwork they sent me, and it said, "You must not carry a sharp object into court apart from a curan with a blade up to 8 in or 20 cm long." So, I rang the court and said, "How can we sit in judgment of somebody in the dock who may be carrying a knife, who may have been in the court of carrying a knife, when the jury themselves can carry an 8 in knife?" And they told me, "We don't want you. Don't come." Oh yeah. So you were deselected because you were slightly critical of the structure that gives a privilege to an ethnic minority in Britain.
It's the way the system works. This is what the system is. This is what it's designed to do. And so the Henry Novak outcome are the system the the outcomes the system selects for. It is trying to do this. Jeremy Vine is not gonna take this. Well, >> okay. So, that based on that qu that's funny.
>> Is that funny?
>> Is it funny that you're a secondass citizen, Jeremy? And weirdly, you support it like some sort of uh house nword because they pay you well to be a [ __ ] defender of this system on TV.
>> Okay. That's that's a case of two-tier law in the court itself.
>> Yeah, completely correct. I mean, you you literally wouldn't be able to describe it any other way. You aren't allowed to carry a knife, but there is a religious exemption for a minority community in this country. You you you can't describe it any other way. That's of course what it is.
>> Yeah. I mean, I can see they thought you Listen, Martin, they thought you were just causing trouble, didn't they? So, >> did you want to be treated the same as everyone else? Well, you're just causing trouble then, aren't you? Why? Because Martin, you're a white Englishman.
That's why, Martin, he's not. He's a seek. He has different rules to you. And if you question that in the British cast system, you forgetting you're an untouchable on the bottom are just causing trouble. And so, no, we don't want you on the court. We don't want you in the jury.
>> I mean, you you know, come on. There's never been a case of a guy on the jury suddenly pulling out a ceremonial knife and killing another juror. That's >> so what?
>> It's not a reasonable objection.
>> But how can you how can you sit in judgment when you're not allowed to carry a knife? when you carry knife yourself.
>> I hear you, but I also understand why there shouldn't >> be any exception. There should be no exception to this knife.
>> Well, I I I think >> that's a perfectly reasonable position to have. Either we can all carry knives or none of us can carry knives, but some carrying knives because they're a special minority group with a set of beliefs that I don't hold and therefore don't think are true or valid is not a good enough reason.
>> In case >> I think that ship has sailed. I think they're going to they're obviously going to ban it, aren't they?
>> Yeah. No, Karma has come out and said, "No, we're not going to ban the Kurpan."
They've finally found one kind of knife they're not prepared to ban. They banned everything else. Like literally everything else. You need you need a bloody ID to order a steak knife now off Amazon, but they're not going to bury this uh barry ban this because this would affect a minority group and the system is here to privilege minority groups over the native population.
That's why they're not going to ban it, Jeremy. And they didn't.
>> I think they're definitely going to >> Well, that's it. Game over.
>> No, didn't happen.
>> If you're a law-abiding seek, you now won't be able to carry a knife because >> Nope. You're making this up. Total fiction. Just like you made up. Well, they're not training them to do it.
They're also not banning the curan.
You're making this up. You're you're a liar. That's just what you are. You are a professional liar. And your job is apparently to make up fictions that defend the [ __ ] li world order. That's what you do, Jeremy, >> of this murderer.
>> There is a huge issue with knife crime.
And we've got to be honest that too many young people carry knives. I had a 16-year-old constituent of mine called Charlie KSA who was brutally stabbed to death at a party. And his father goes around schools telling people that if you carry knives, it is putting your own life at risk.
>> But there's nothing to do with ceremonial knives.
I mean, I hate Jeremy Hunt more than almost anyone who's ever lived throughout all of human history and possibly who ever will live. But Jeremy Vine is so insufferable. He's going to make Jeremy Hunt right on something which I I genuinely I resent frankly.
The people people carrying knives has nothing to do with these knives. Even though this knife has just been used to murder someone, actually it is the same.
Actually, it has got something to do with it, Jeremy. We're literally talking about a murder victim of a guy murdered by the ceremonial knife.
>> No, it's to do with the prevalence of people carrying.
>> But why should somebody who's got a true and reasonable religion not be allowed to carry a ceremonial knife as a >> because one, we don't believe that it's a true religion, whether it's reasonable or not, and two, the rest of us aren't allowed to [ __ ] carry knives. It's straightforward. We should not be making exemptions for minorities on anything.
And if they don't like it, they have entire countries that they can move to.
They don't have to be here. They can make a choice and selfdeport if they don't like the fact that we don't want them having knives. I mean, like, why why should any foreigner be allowed to be armed in Britain? Like, explain it.
Why should anyone who's not a native Britain have any right to carry a weapon? That's kind of mad, right?
That's the sort of thing that would happen if you were under occupation.
Like historically, the English have been an armed people and we didn't arm foreigners in our midst. And now that's completely inverted. We are a disarmed people and there are armed foreigners everywhere. This is not on at all.
>> The result is a criminal who killed your constituent. This was like an 8in knife.
And I think that if we want, you know, it's it's like guns. if we we need to create a society where people don't go around carrying knives. And so I'm afraid I >> I don't really think that's the answer.
I mean, when I was a kid, I had knives.
I was in cubs and then scouts and, you know, we had access to knives. I didn't go around killing anyone. No one. No one I knew ever stabbed anyone else, but we all had knives. We go out and like, you know, whittle sticks and stuff to turn into spears or whatever. We didn't kill each other because we didn't have that kind of culture. I don't really think it's whether you have knives or not.
See, I told you [ __ ] Jeremy Hunt. I hate Jeremy Hunt as well. But my god, like it is just so straightforward that we do not need to be protecting the the sanctity of Sikism or Islam or Hinduism or anything else, Judaism. If any of these religions are not happy with the laws that we have in this country and we should just lay down these laws and say it is going to be like this, it is going to be like that, it is going to be like the other. And if you're not happy with it, the door is there. You can leave. We should be banning halal and kosher slaughter. We should be banning these knives. We should be banning like, I don't know, whatever weird practices the Hindus do that offend our particular sensibilities. I actually don't can't think of what I've had. But any of these foreign requirements that are something that we personally find unacceptable, just ban it. And if they're like, well, I can't live here then. Then you can't live here then, can you? That's your choice. We don't need to change our country in order to suit these people.
I'm absolutely sick of it. And this and the thing is right, and I said I I said this in a a political chat they did with Dan. I actually do feel a bit bad for the seat community on this because of all of the immigrant communities in this country, the seat community are by far from being the worst. Right. I actually don't think um Digua is actually representative of the SEK community.
Right. Most seikhs do not go around killing people, stabbing them with their knives, right? Most of the time it's not a problem. But the problem that they have fallen into here is that they are the recipients of a system of privilege.
And this is explicit. And this system of privilege literally makes us the native Britain's secondass citizens in our own country protected by a state that seems designed only to reinforce their privilege. So, while the Sikhs themselves are clearly not overall bad people, I mean, it's not like they're doing the grooming gangs or anything like that, right? They're clearly not like a massive problem population. And I mean, and literally until right now, no one thought they were. And it's only because of this exemption that this is becoming salient actually, right? It's not like they've, you know, the community is filled with grooming gang members or the people who were customers of the grooming gang members to the the girl they traffic, right? And they in the SEK community, there have been like seek community leaders who have come out and gone, look, look, we're really sorry about this. This is not what we think.
And as far as I'm aware, seek religion is basically like Christianity in its morality. Um, you know, it's quite universalist in that way. as far I'm not an expert on seekism but the point is there doesn't seem to be anything in seekism from what I've seen from the seeks that suggests they should be cruel to outsiders right unlike in other Middle Eastern religions that we could name so I I actually do feel a bit bad for the Sikhs that this is them that has been like okay now we're the guys in the spotlight is it because I don't think they go around being very bad and there's only half a million of them in the country as well like that sounds like a lot but compared to the I mean literally we've probably got about 12 million foreigners in this country being like, "Ah, that half million seeks are the problem." They're not really actually the problem. I mean, I don't want the country swamped by seikhs, but there's only like 20 million of them anyway in the world. They're not that big a religion. Um, but yeah, I I don't want to, you know, be like, "Yeah, we need all the seikhs on earth to come here." But I also don't hate the Seikhs.
And I do feel a bit bad that they're becoming the ones who are problematized here. cuz I mean like seriously we have got way bigger problems with other minority groups are way bigger than the Sikhs. Uh so I'm I'm sorry that they're the ones who had to make this come to light but at the end of the day it is the case that this is how it is and it is also the case that we should not tolerate two-tier society two tier laws and religious religious or minority exemptions. No, we shouldn't tolerate them. No cousin marriage, no bloody halal or kosher. I mean, personally, I'm against circumcision, but I don't want any of it. Absolutely any of it. So, anyway, point being, Jeremy Vine can go.
Okay.
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