What Happened to Hair Metal in the ‘90s?

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[00:00:00]1993 to 1998 were truly the dark years for hair metal bands and a confusing as [ __ ] time for hair metal fans. But music doesn't stop when times are tough. So tonight we're going to talk about it.

[00:00:14]What albums from that time period let us down and which ones didn't? And what were the bands we gravitated to that weren't hair metal during that time frame? We're going to answer those questions and so many more as we answer 15 questions about the dark years of hair metal right after this.

[00:00:34]>> The hair metal guru from war to crew.

[00:00:39]The hair metal guru forget.

[00:00:45]>> Welcome to the hair metal guru. My name is Anthony. They call me the guru. And before we get into the dark years of hair metal, hey, would love it if you would like, subscribe. What the hell?

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[00:00:57]And if you're on your phone, please hype the video. And with that, Patrick came up with 15 questions about the dark years of hair metal. Patrick, take it away. Here I am. Here we go. Stone, what was your first inkling that the musical climate was changing out of our favorite genre's favor?

[00:01:16]I I think when Nirvana got the lyric treatment on um Smells Like Teen [ __ ] that was kind of where I knew that, oh, okay, we're, you know, we're going to really play this video a trillion times.

[00:01:28]Um you got to know all the lyrics so you can sing along to it. Um and then I think there's actually a second indicator, too. When Headbangers Ball really started to change the music they were playing, I was like, "Oh, now there's not even a place for us." It was at least thought that, okay, if we're out of the mainstream, we have Headbangers Ball. Well, that wasn't the case. Uh, if you watch the last two and a half, three years of Headbangers Ball, very little and it was over. And we're not talking, >> we're not talking about Headbangers Paul. We're talking about Headbangers Paul. Headbangers Paul is our buddy.

[00:02:06]He's got a YouTube channel, too. That's cool. So, anyway, >> nice.

[00:02:09]>> He is. Check him out.

[00:02:11]>> Jeremy, where are you at?

[00:02:13]I'm kind of on the same basis. We watched a Canadian music station called Much Music and they had a power hour every day and we had our VCR set to record that son of a [ __ ] And wouldn't you know it, it went from power hour to power 30. And I literally remember looking at my brother Brandon and saying, "Oh shit." And we kind of knew the writing was on the proverbial wall.

[00:02:35]And then um anytime we talked about anything that was tongue and cheek, people at parties or wherever we were like, "Ah, that that stuff is freaking lame. That's so, you know, yesterday or whatever the hell the terms were back then." That's when we kind of knew, yeah, we were growing out of favor and it it sucked. They were dark times.

[00:02:51]>> I remember Jonesy.

[00:02:54]>> Uh yeah, same thing. I I know this is sort of 93, but you know when Warren come out with Dog Eat Dog and uh Machine Gun maybe was on MTV once, maybe twice, you know, Native Tongue, I know they kicked it off hard with Stan, but then until you suffer some, I don't think I ever seen it on MTV. So all of these poisons and things like that was starting to be gone and you know you was starting to see Stone Temple Pilots and Nirvana and Pearl Jam, you know, same video every hour on the hour and you knew it was pretty much over.

[00:03:30]>> Yeah.

[00:03:31]>> Parmetal Guru, tell us.

[00:03:33]>> I was a freshman in college in 1991 and and I remember my senior year in high school, there was these two brothers.

[00:03:41]They were twins from a school and and they were, you know, a lot of us dressed preppy at the end of the late 80s and and and in in ' 91. And then I'm a freshman in college. I go to a basketball game and here these two are and they got goatees and flannel and I was like, "What the [ __ ] You guys were like all these preppy little [ __ ] back in the day and now you're all grunge." That might be off topic, but being in the dorms when Nirvana started blowing up and then I remember like these there was a couple of guys on my floor that played guitar and they were just [ __ ] on poison. I'm like what?

[00:04:20]They're like, "Oh, here let me play the unskinny bop riff. That's a dumb as fuck." And I'm like, "Why are you guys [ __ ] on poison?" And it just was it struck me as like I never seen that before. I mean, you know, I mean, not that Poison never got made fun of, but it just seemed to be different. And then Nirvana was and Pearl Jam started making its way throughout the dorms. It just I I didn't really know it at the time, but those were the first signs that, you know, something's different here.

[00:04:50]>> Yeah.

[00:04:52]For me, it was the 1992 MTV Music Awards where the only rock acts that were around was like Black Crows, G&R, and uh De Leopard. And then the following year in 93, I'll always remember Christian Slater hosted it. And there was not even a single hint of hair metal, of hard rock, of anything. Um, it was just crickets. And I was like, well, this is over. There's not going to be anything. Hey, speaking of Christian Slater, do do you remember that first Pump Up the Volume? One of my favorite movies of all time.

[00:05:29]>> He was in a hilarious uh comedy called Cuffs.

[00:05:32]>> Yes.

[00:05:33]>> You've never seen it. It's so [ __ ] funny. Go check out Cuffs.

[00:05:38]>> Cuffs is fantastic.

[00:05:41]Well, this this question uh a lot of people will have uh thoughts in the comments, I think, but Stone CMC Records kept many bands afloat during the dark years. You had a personal relationship with them. What were your three favorite albums from that label?

[00:05:57]>> Uh yeah, I didn't have a lot of time to to do my research and and it's been 30 more than 30 years, so to be honest, I'm probably leaving some out. And uh yeah, I used to get a lot of uh music videos and then I got CDs and CD singles to give away on my TV show back in the 90s from CMC. So nothing but uh appreciation for their ability to work with us um kids back in the day. But my my top three, I'm going to go Kicks Show Business, uh Warren, Ultra Phobic, and then my favorite because it is my favorite Slaughter album, Fear No Evil.

[00:06:30]Love it.

[00:06:32]>> Jeremy, where you at? Damn, I got two of the three that he does. Uh, when we did that Fear No Evil review, I kind of fell refell in love with that album again.

[00:06:41]Fear No Evil is definitely up there. Um, Warren Ultra Phobic also, but my third one might be a bit of a surprise. I was into heavier stuff and Overkills the Killing Kind came out and that was an unbelievably great metal album and I loved it. That's in my top three.

[00:06:59]>> Fantastic.

[00:07:00]Freaking I'm not an overkill fan. I do love that album.

[00:07:05]>> Yeah, it's >> What was it called again? Overkill.

[00:07:07]What?

[00:07:07]>> The Killing Kind.

[00:07:09]>> The Killing Kind.

[00:07:09]>> Yeah, it's a great record.

[00:07:11]>> Jonesy, where you at?

[00:07:13]>> Well, I'm I'm going to follow, you know, follow suit here. Warren Ultra Phobic Kick Show Business and I did have Belly to Belly, but my probably uh my other favorite that is Saigon Kick, the devil's in the details.

[00:07:28]>> Such a great record. That was >> CMC. That would be my favorite.

[00:07:35]Parental Guru, what you got for CMC?

[00:07:38]>> Okay, Ultra Phobic would be number one.

[00:07:41]Um, kicks show business and and then and then I'm Saigon Kick Devil in the details, but let me give me honorable mention to Taiketto, Strength and Numbers, and Slaughter, Fear No Evil. Those are my honorables.

[00:07:57]>> Wow. Shocked that the guru did not have Shadow Life. One of his favorites. Yeah, that's right.

[00:08:04]>> I went with uh Ultra Phobic number one, Belly Belly number two, and Tai Ketto's Strength and Numbers, which uh that was a an interesting record. It wasn't by any means their best, but it was a good record. Uh Stone, many of the bands we love tried new styles to blend in. Uh some worked and some didn't. Uh name an album where it worked and name an album where it didn't work.

[00:08:27]>> Oh, there's a lot on both sides. I'm gonna go with for the one that didn't work.

[00:08:34]I'm gonna go Dangerous Toys, the artist formerly known as Danger.

[00:08:40]>> One of the clever most clever album titles. And I love it might be top five alltime album covers. And I really tried to get and and there's some industrial like I love Shotgun Messiah Violent New Breed. It didn't work for me with Dangerous Toys. And I really did try.

[00:08:56]Um, but my favorite that that that tried something new that worked, um, these guys right here, M Lake Crew, 1994, best album ever. Let's go.

[00:09:07]>> Absolutely.

[00:09:07]>> Very cool.

[00:09:08]>> Absolutely.

[00:09:08]>> Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:09:10]>> Yeah. Um, what didn't work for me and um, yeah, I agree on that DT pick, by the way. But I'll tell you, Widowmaker, I put out Blood and Bullets and I loved it. I thought that was a killer record with great ballads, everything. But that Standby for Pain was a swing and a miss.

[00:09:27]That was a big time swing and a miss. In fact, the only song I could even think of liking was something about uh the police or something.

[00:09:36]Um it doesn't even matter. It's so not worth mentioning. But I'll tell you what album did work was Winger Pull. The direction they went with that grunge sound with that heavier riff with the drop D. That was a killer album with some heavy tunes. I thought it showed mature songwriting both lyrically um as as well as in uh instrumentally. It was just an unbelievable album top to bottom.

[00:09:59]>> Very cool. Josie, what do you got?

[00:10:00]>> That was a good pick. I really like that. Uh I'm going to say Ultra Phobic worked. I mean, you know, it was definitely not Dog Eat Dog or Cherry Pie or anything like that, but I think it's great record still to this day. And the one that didn't work, we've done a show on it already, but uh Generation Swine.

[00:10:22]>> Oh my gosh.

[00:10:25]>> Yeah.

[00:10:26]>> Take a minute to pause there.

[00:10:29]>> Everybody collect your thoughts.

[00:10:30]>> Yeah.

[00:10:33]>> Metal guru, I would love to know what worked and didn't work.

[00:10:36]>> Obviously, Warren Ultra Phobic worked.

[00:10:38]Um, obviously poll worked, but I need to give a special shout out and it's not necessarily grunge, but Lilian Axe Psychosophrenia from 1993 is so drastically underrated. It actually makes me sad. So, uh, that and then what didn't work, the ones you guys said, uh, Generation Swine, Shadow Life, but my answer is LA, the LA Guns, the LA Guns, American Hardcore, I think. And let me announce today, Patrick knows, but this Friday I will be interviewing Chris Van Dal, the singer from the American Hardcore album by the LA Guns.

[00:11:25]So, I'm excited for that.

[00:11:27]>> Yes, sir.

[00:11:28]>> That is going to be an epic interview.

[00:11:29]Also from Cherry Street.

[00:11:31]>> Uh my two uh what didn't work. Jones, I'm so sorry to say this to you, but John Bon Joy's Destination Anywhere did not work. That is just what the heck singer songwriter garbage is working on uh to uh do that one. But my one that worked is an album that I hope so many of the viewers of this show will go check out. Um, and that depending on where you were in the world, it was either at 94 or '95. Bang Tango's Love After Death. What an incredible record.

[00:12:03]They It's There's like no funk in that album at all. They went straight ahead rock. They got their good producer back.

[00:12:11]That album is phenomenal. There's not a single bad song on it.

[00:12:17]>> Oh my god, I love that album to death.

[00:12:18]>> What year is that from, Pat? 94 in Europe and 95 in Japan.

[00:12:23]>> Wow.

[00:12:24]>> Never came out in America. Never released in America, but you can hear it on YouTube. That is a phenomenal record.

[00:12:30]Love After Death by Bang Tango.

[00:12:32]>> Excellent.

[00:12:32]>> If you're ugly, I'm ugly, too.

[00:12:36]>> Oh god.

[00:12:36]>> Little John Bonjobi for you right there, man.

[00:12:40]>> Good lord.

[00:12:41]>> I remember buying that and going, "What the [ __ ] did he do?" Geez.

[00:12:46]>> Sorry. I love it.

[00:12:49]Stone. Three albums from between 93 and 98 that you would tell anybody to check out and they will love them.

[00:12:58]>> Patrick, you know that this is my this is my favorite era. I much prefer this era to the 80s.

[00:13:03]>> So, my list I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you just my top 50. Okay? So, give me about 30 minutes. Okay? Let's go. Um I'm gonna go with the ones I think most people actually really would like. So, I'm gonna go Danger Danger for the Hard Way from 1997 is absolutely brilliant.

[00:13:20]Paul Lane um in peak form. I don't know what he ever isn't in peak form. Um I'm going to go back to one you guys already mentioned. Saigon kick devil in the details. Very much a clone to Water, but then again, it's Saigon Kick. There's no such thing as a clone because everything is so totally different. I love that album. And actually, okay, let me stray just a little bit because I know this one is not liked by the fans, but I freaking love it. It's 1997's TNT Firefly. I was not a TNT fan until this album and I became a fan with this album and the next few. Um, very, very, very different. Much lighter, but a brilliantly written album that the band unfortunately has kind of rejected.

[00:14:02]>> Very cool picks. Very cool pick. Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:14:06]>> Boy, I kind of went a different direction. I went hair metal adjacent and I apologize. I guess that's kind of what I thought we were looking for, like new stuff. Um, so I did have Kiss the Psycho Circus on there cuz I like that album and I wish more of the Kiss Army would have showed up to support that thing, but it is what it is. But I also, um, like I said, I went Jason. I had Foo Fighters Color and Shape. I would have told people to check that out for a fun album. And the Allison Chain self-titled album I freaking love as well. So those would have been bands I would have encouraged people to check out.

[00:14:37]>> That self-titled Allison Chains incredible record. Yeah, >> Jonesy, where are you at?

[00:14:42]>> Well, I think most about everybody picked, you know, had listened to this anyways, but in 95, Van Halen's Balance was such a huge record for me. I love that record. Um, and one of the underrateds, and Patrick, I think you'll agree with me on this. Bon Joy's These Days was such a great record as well.

[00:15:05]And I wanted to say 94 Montley, but I mean every everybody knows Montley 490.

[00:15:11]So for your Warrant fans, go check out Bellyto Belly because the first there out of 10 songs, I think, you know, five or six of them stands up with the greatest stuff they ever done. Four or five of them, maybe not so much, but there's four or five on there that's fantastic.

[00:15:29]>> 100% agree. Hair metal guru, hit us up.

[00:15:32]I I'll I'll try not to do all the ones I've done before, like Ultra Phobic, even though that would be in there. But, um, the arcade album with Stephen Piery on vocals and Fred Curry on drums.

[00:15:43]Frankie Wily from Sea Hags is [ __ ] amazing from 1993.

[00:15:49]Every Mother's Nightmare, Wake Up Screaming from 1993.

[00:15:56]So good. And [ __ ] And kicks show business.

[00:16:01]And Jeremy, I [ __ ] even though part of it was [ __ ] I I really liked Psycho Circus. So, [ __ ] everybody who hates that album because I know a lot of people >> raise your glasses.

[00:16:13]>> Your glasses. That's right.

[00:16:15]>> I pledge I pledge allegiance to the state of rock and roll, baby.

[00:16:19]>> That's right.

[00:16:21]>> Raise your glasses.

[00:16:22]>> Yeah. Raise your glasses. God damn. We We can blind barb wire. God damn. Uh I've got uh 1995 was a very very important year uh for me in there. Faith No More's King for a Day Fool for a Lifetime is a brilliant record for them.

[00:16:40]Uh Bain's third album, Fade, incredible record. Just very different, very psychedelic, but man, it's a great record. And uh one that was not available in America, but boy, I got it and I have never stopped listening to it. Kingdom Comes record from 1995.

[00:16:57]Twilight Cruiser is incredible. And the song Twilight Cruiser might be one of the best songs they ever did. It's insane.

[00:17:05]>> Never heard that record.

[00:17:06]>> Oh, beautiful song.

[00:17:08]>> I'll wrap that one down.

[00:17:10]>> This is a interesting one. I I'm very interested in hearing everybody's perspective on Stone. If Crack a Smile did come out in 1995 as originally intended, would it have had any success?

[00:17:24]>> No. Now, let let me just say a couple things. So, for us, and Patrick and I were two of the well, literally the only two people I know that got the album in 1996, uh, right towards the end of, um, high school for us. And we got through Buccaneer Records. It was the bootleg, but it was perfect perfect quality, literally the same quality as the one that would come out four years later in the in the year 2000. But even though we get it in I want to say May or June of 96, it was supposed to come out the year earlier. I think the problem is once you get past the end of 93, there is almost no space left whatsoever for Poison or bands like that. And so I think whether it's 94, 95, 96, I don't think it makes any difference. As much as I love Crack a Smile, um it was over.

[00:18:12]>> Jeremy, what do you think?

[00:18:14]>> I think they would have tried to make a video, maybe a sexual thing or lay your body down. I think that um it would have some stations would have tried to play it a little bit. However, I don't think it would have uh blown up by any stretch. Um and sadly, like you just said, Stone, I I think it would have fell off, so to speak, pretty quickly.

[00:18:35]Whatever hype that they tried to build, I think it would have fallen out of favor pretty pretty fast.

[00:18:41]>> Josie, what do you think?

[00:18:43]I I think yes. I think it would have had a little bit of success because I think you was done three or four years into the the grunge and I think that at around that time you started seeing more rock bands instead of grunge bands and and I think people was sort of wanting that and maybe I'm just a glass half full kind of guy but I with the record it was and the songs that it was and I loved that record uh I don't think it would have been in the X Flesh and Blood success, but I think they have had some success with it.

[00:19:19]>> Hair metal guru, where are you?

[00:19:22]>> I think it would have bombed. Um, and and and I feel I feel bad saying this now, but probably the best thing that happened to them was that album not coming out and them not going out on the road because you look at the bands like Warrant and Slaughter and who whoever that kept slugging it out in the clubs, which I loved seeing those bands back then, but maybe the smartest thing that Poison did was win away. So when they came back at 99 2000, they were massive.

[00:19:59]They were playing and maybe that would have been the case anyway, but a a lot of people think that bands like Warrant and stuff kind of hurt their brand by just never going away during the dark years and Poison did go away and they came back huge. So So that's I know that's the long answer, but uh yeah, I I don't think it would have done anything regardless. I completely agree.

[00:20:23]>> That's valid. Very valid.

[00:20:26]>> I think that if Capital Records put anything behind a single and the right single had been released with a very catchy looking video that would have been kind of funny. There were some funny elements to some of those songs. A song like Baby Gets Around a Bit maybe.

[00:20:42]>> Yeah. with a funny video that could have got if Bon Joy could make something for the pain, an MT a top 20 MTV hit, then Poison I think had a chance with Baby Gets Around a bit or something like that. That would have been a funny entertaining video. I don't think the record goes gold. They're not going out on tour and selling out arenas by any means, but they might have been able to play some theaters and things like that.

[00:21:08]Maybe some state fairs, things like that. Stone. Many of the bands we love toured consistently during the dark years. What was the best concert you ever attended during that time?

[00:21:20]>> You were with me for one and you were an ass for not coming to the other one. Um, my honorable mention is Scorpions and Alice Cooper because man, entertainment performance-wise, gosh, those it was so good. Um, that was 1996. And then the year earlier in 1995, I think it was June at the Rosland Theater in Portland, uh, Skid Row, Suban Race, people say, "Oh, the band was starting to break up." H, not quite yet.

[00:21:47]That was going to happen later in the tour in um, 95, just months after the album came out, they were on fire. What a performance.

[00:21:57]>> Jeremy, tell us about a concert.

[00:22:00]>> Right on. A close second is Warren's uh, Bellyto Belly 96. That's what made me fall in love with that album was getting to see that show live. But my favorite was Slaughter Off the Revolution album and they were playing a a club called Eddie's Club and Mandatan. And I wasn't 21 yet, but I snuck in with my brother and we were front row watching that and it was unbelievable watching those songs live. And then afterwards we hung out with Dana and he's just such a nice guy.

[00:22:27]He he comes off as kind of arrogant.

[00:22:28]He's anything but. He's such a sincere, sweet guy. And we had a blast. So, that was one of the best shows I've ever seen was The Revolution.

[00:22:35]>> He's just saying that cuz he wants to [ __ ] him. No, I'm just kidding.

[00:22:40]>> Had that nice hair, didn't he, Jeremy?

[00:22:42]>> He sure did. Yeah, it was nice to run my hands fingers through it.

[00:22:45]>> I'm more of a What you got?

[00:22:50]>> I think uh I'll probably have to go with the uh the Van Halen Balance Tour. Uh I think Allison Chains opened that. I think I'm not going to swear to it, but I think they did. And then and then when Anthony just said just a few minutes ago when Warren started doing the clubs, you know, ultra phobic bellyto belly, it was the first time I got a chance to meet Janie. It was amazing. Every time I went to see him and anytime I got to see Warren, which in that three or four year period, like the rest of you guys, I've seen him probably 10 or 12 times. It was always amazing.

[00:23:30]>> Very cool. Parental Groom.

[00:23:32]>> There's so many like Kiss on the reunion tour. But honorable mention to Sebastian Bach when he first went out solo in 1998 in Fargo, North Dakota was [ __ ] amazing. But the answer is Warrant at the Iron Iron Horse Saloon in Crystal, Minnesota. 199596.

[00:23:53]I get pulled up on stage when Janie sees my Stronger Now tattoo. the videos on YouTube and then and then getting to like go on the tour bus and [ __ ] afterwards.

[00:24:04]Amazing. And Janie Lane was so awesome at at those club shows before the alcohol was really out of control. So they were amazing.

[00:24:15]>> I got two and and Stone was at both of them. First concert I ever went to was Brother Kane on the Seeds tour right after that album came out. That album hadn't been out very long and holy [ __ ] the energy in the room that night. They were incredible and and if you ever get the chance to see Brother Kane, >> you should.

[00:24:36]>> Um, second one, Tesla on the uh Times Making Changes Greatest Hits tour. Uh, one of the first gigs without Tommy in the band. Frank Hannon held it down.

[00:24:47]Probably the loudest concert I ever saw in my life. My ears were ringing for days. So, yeah. Was Frank by himself?

[00:24:54]>> Yeah.

[00:24:55]>> Was he? Oh, cool.

[00:24:56]>> Yeah, Frank was by himself and he you would never have known. It was fantast.

[00:25:02]>> Yeah. Great show.

[00:25:03]>> Uh, Stone, many artists we loved created side projects and new bands during this time. What was one of the side projects you think folks would really enjoy that came out during that time?

[00:25:14]>> Um, I don't know if this is cheating because I mean I these were bands, but they were all side projects. there. Ted Polley, and I I'm a Paul Lane guy first with Danger Danger, but I love Ted. And Ted had a bunch of projects um not only in the 90s, but well into the 2000s. Um Bone Machine was kind of it was so poorly produced. It kind of it didn't quite make it for me. But um the the the next band uh Melodica, which I it might be 98, it might be after. I don't quite remember when the two albums came out, but Melodica was really, really good.

[00:25:51]Um, the first album self-titled and the second album, um, Love Metal. Odd title.

[00:25:56]Um, but Summer Nights and YouTube, it's hard to find the full albums. And, um, with with Love Metal, there's an acoustic version, there's electric version. If you ever get to hear the electric version of Summer Nights by Melodica, Ted Pulley's um third band after uh Danger Danger and Bone Machine, one of my favorite favorite songs from that era. Um but yeah, Ted Ted always creative and always consistent.

[00:26:22]>> Excellent.

[00:26:23]>> Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:26:25]>> Um one that everybody knows obviously is Vince Neil, you know, the what he did after Mley, of course, Arcade, one of the best albums ever. Uh, Michael Sweet's solo projects were really good.

[00:26:35]And then the one I'm really going to focus here, the one that I would say more than anything shocked me and they made quite a buzz, um, Marvelous 3, >> South Gang, you know, you got, uh, Butch, Slug, and Jace, and they were out there doing their thing as Marvelous 3.

[00:26:51]They they changed their look, they changed their sound, but still kept that kind of that South Gang uh, guitar tone.

[00:26:57]It was great. And they made they made quite a name for themselves.

[00:27:01]>> They did. They got MTV play.

[00:27:03]>> Yeah.

[00:27:04]>> Jonesy, what do you got?

[00:27:06]>> Well, uh, Jeremy just stole my thunder.

[00:27:08]I was going to say the same thing. Uh, no, it's all good, brother.

[00:27:12]>> Marvelous 3, the Hey album in 98 was just to me was a a just so good. I I Marvelous 3 to me is so much better than South Gang. I I just those those two records, the Hay record and Ready Six Go was amazing. Um, and Stone mentioned one that sort of brought me back. Uh, what was Mike Tramp's? Um, >> Freaks of Nature.

[00:27:37]>> Freaks of Nature. Thank you. That just popped in my head and I didn't even think about that. That was a really good band.

[00:27:44]>> Really, really good band.

[00:27:45]>> They had some good stuff.

[00:27:47]>> No love for Butch Walker's other band, Floyd's Funk Revival. They sort of sucked.

[00:27:52]>> Or his gringo one or whatever it was called.

[00:27:55]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:27:58]Yeah.

[00:27:58]>> Um, well, I I also really do love Marvelous 3 and I love Arcade, but one that nobody has said yet is the Union album from 1998 with John Kurabi and Bruce Kulich from Kiss. They also put out a album called The Blue Room in 2001. That was great.

[00:28:19]So, Union 98 >> kick me off the channel um for not remembering that.

[00:28:26]>> Way to go, Jones. Damn it.

[00:28:28]>> Ruin your your John Karabi fandom.

[00:28:32]>> [ __ ] >> Stone will remember when I got this. I got this the day it came out and it was it took uh a lot of trips around to find it. Um I am a diehard fan of Tammy D's Newly's project.

[00:28:45]>> Yeah, >> I listened to that Newly's album.

[00:28:49]so much. I love that record. Check out the song Melting. They were amazing.

[00:28:54]They were so good. Uh that was him and Kyle. Kyle from Bangtank.

[00:28:57]>> Oh god.

[00:28:58]>> Yeah.

[00:28:58]>> Yeah.

[00:28:59]>> Uh Matt, when Herman was falling out, what were a few bands that you turned to from outside the genre?

[00:29:05]>> Um three in particular. Uh I I I love Dream Theater. I've mentioned them before. Um in the 90s they released some really really good stuff. Um, the band that would become my all-time favorite band is Halloween. And then, um, when Halloween changed lead singers in 1994, uh, and they got Andy Daryus, I discovered there's this band called Pink Cream 69, which I remembered had I always seen in the catalog. I was like, that's the worst name I've ever heard for a band. Who are they? And I was like, oh [ __ ] my favorite band is getting better singer. I guess I better listen to him. And I'll never forget when I called this guy at the import store and I said, "What do they sound like?" And he had the strangest comparison. He goes, "Yeah, kind of like Mly Crew." I go, "Mly crew." He goes, "I don't know how." He goes, "No, they don't sound like Molly Crew, but they're just straight ahead rock. They're not Halloween." I was like, "Okay." And he was kind of right. They're just straight ahead hard rock, but um love love them.

[00:30:04]Love those bands.

[00:30:06]>> Very cool choices. Jeremy, what do you got? I swear to God, Stone, I I wouldn't say this if it weren't true. Thunderdome is in my CD player right now in my bathroom. I just listened to it this morning when I showered.

[00:30:18]>> Oh, nice. Okay.

[00:30:19]>> I love Pink Cream. I never even thought of them on this list. I have most of theirs. Uh but anyway, Goooo Dolls, the Nixon's XC's these. Now, the next ones are a little bit different. I actually gravitated a little bit to a lamis moriceet matchbox 20 and then of course I got into the heavier stuff disturbed and saliva.

[00:30:40]>> Wow. Interesting. Jonesy >> uh you know I I I stayed with Allison Chains. Uh you know Allison Chains I thought was a legit band. Um I put up a video shameless plug but I I really got into Panta. Uh but but you know also I I had a chance to go back and relive things that I missed the first go around in the 70s and the late60s. Your your Beatles and your Stones and your Led Zeppelin and things like that that I didn't get a chance to really concentrate on because I so much into hair metal in the 80s. So I went back to a lot of that stuff too.

[00:31:23]>> It's cool.

[00:31:24]>> All right, guru. What do you got? I got into a lot of pop rock. Eve six, Soul Asylum. I don't know if they're necessarily pop rock. I loved the goooo dolls before they went to pop. Like they were kind of really punk punk rock hard rock in the mid '9s. The Offspring Smash album I still think is phenomenal.

[00:31:46]Social Distortion, I started getting into punk rock. And then pop like semi semiic if you remember closing time.

[00:31:54]That was their big hit. But they added a lot of great songs besides that. So there's a few.

[00:32:00]>> Yeah.

[00:32:00]>> Very good.

[00:32:00]>> Very cool. Very cool. I've got uh I really got into Stabbing Westward. That was a band that I absolutely loved. Uh Brother Kane. I mean, my god, they were just nothing more than a hard rock band.

[00:32:13]Um they weren't really hair metal, but they they were really great. Uh a band that Jonesy and I did a video about, the band Therapy with a question mark at the end.

[00:32:22]>> Therapy was insanely good. Troublegum.

[00:32:25]>> No, Trouble Gum was great and Infernal Love was just as good. Uh, and then on the other side of the spectrum, I was really into The Pet Shop Boys, Depes Mode, and my one of my all-time favorites, I had a different t-shirt for every day of the week, the band Typo Negative. I love Typo.

[00:32:41]>> Hey, Patrick, when you were listening to Stabbing Westward with a girl, did you invite her to the Stabbing Cabin to listen to it?

[00:32:50]>> To the Stabbing Cabin? I was Captain Stabin.

[00:32:58]That's a good name.

[00:32:59]>> Yeah.

[00:33:00]>> Matt, which album shocked you by having some success during the dark years?

[00:33:05]>> I've got a really good answer for this one. Um, I'm going to go with Firehouse three because it actually had a legitimate hit in I Live My Life for You, which reached number 26 on the Billboard 100. That is insane for mid95.

[00:33:24]Um and then uh here here for you did okay. I think it charted like 75 or whatever. Um I don't even think that's one of their better albums, but um the ballads did well. They were still playing festivals. I saw them in Beaverton, Oregon at some outdoor festival where Bobby Kimble was the headliner. Um yeah, so that that's a real surprise to me and I'm happy for him.

[00:33:46]>> Very cool. Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:33:48]Yeah. Well, first of all, Typo Negative is my guitar player's favorite band of all time, Patrick. Yeah. So, I know them very well. And they opened promot. But I kind of cheated here, guys. I had a tough time with this one. Um, I'm going to go with Marvelous 3, but I wanted to do De Leopard's Euphoria, but that was 99 and missed that 98 cutoff. But, uh, Marvelous 3 was in that pocket, too. So, I'll go with Marvelous 3, but Euphoria was just after that, and they had some success off that, so I cheated a little bit.

[00:34:19]>> Jones, what do you got, >> man? I'm I'm going with Mad. I I I had wrote down Firehouse 3. That ballad, you would turn on FM radio and and like you said, that ballad was everywhere.

[00:34:32]>> Yeah, it was.

[00:34:32]>> And I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is a hair band." you know, and so but yeah, that's that's exactly where I was going too.

[00:34:41]>> Paramount Guru, >> we discovered it. Docan Dysfunctional sold 400,000 copies. Don said it was on its way to to gold and it had a I don't know, it was it was kind of a hit in Fargo, North Dakota with Too High to Fly. I remember hearing it quite a bit.

[00:35:00]So, I was shocked that Dawan was on the radio and selling records in 95.

[00:35:06]I've got an interesting one. I wouldn't necessarily say it was a hit, but it was everywhere and everywhere in weird ways.

[00:35:13]And that was Tim Skold's first solo album, The Scold Record, where uh you could get cassette singles of it were shoved into bags at Hot Topic for free when you bought something.

[00:35:27]>> They had uh 15 soundtrack appearances for the song Chaos off of that. It was in video games. It was in movies. It was in soundtracks. Um very and it led for Tim Skold to wind up eventually getting into KMFDM and Marilyn Manson and some other major things. And he's still a pretty prominent industrial artist now.

[00:35:49]But I I've always felt that it was very shocking to me that a guy like Tim Scold of Shotgun Messiah uh would be a relevant music artist making major label songs in 1996.

[00:36:04]>> Remember when uh the record label sent me those oval uh blue and white stickers?

[00:36:09]>> Yes.

[00:36:10]>> Which are actually really cool looking.

[00:36:11]And then a bunch of uh singles. Um Yeah.

[00:36:14]Because it is weird because it's not like Violent New Breed did anything. No.

[00:36:19]So >> where how Tim made that leap is is and it's a good solo album, by the way.

[00:36:24]>> And he got it's on a major label. He got on RCA. I mean, yeah, it was a major label release. He was on he was like in the Twisted Metal soundtrack. He was in video games and tons of movies. It was it was very strange uh >> to to find that for Tim. Um, Matt, what were some musical projects, songs or bands that folks would be really surprised to know you liked from that period?

[00:36:49]>> Yeah, you know, this is when I started to get into heavier stuff. So, probably my three favorite heavy heavy bands from that era were Meade Death, which was um really my first true metal concert uh on the Euthan Asia Euthan Asia tour, which that's still my favorite album by them.

[00:37:04]Uh Panta, which uh we saw twice, which were, you know, one of the greatest live bands ever. And then the band that I I've always said is the most consistent band from the 90s to the early 2000s uh is Anthrax. From Sound of White Noise to um to to the fourth and last album with John Bush. Uh I freaking love the Bush years. I Beldon years are okay.

[00:37:27]Especially um the comeback years, but I love the Bush anthrax years um as much as any I like from that era. There's There's Stone always talking about how much he loves the bush.

[00:37:40]>> Leave the bush. Absolutely.

[00:37:43]>> Down. We want Bush. Remember that from Revenge of the Nerd.

[00:37:48]>> We've got Bush. Anyway, >> Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:37:52]>> Well, [ __ ] I'm about to hand in my man Carter right now. I I think anyone who's ever watched this channel knows that I'm a hardcore mega death and heavy guy. The overkill, the pant. I love all that. I'm huge into that. But my ex-wife got me into some some different [ __ ] And it was uh Atlantis Moriceette. I said that earlier. Um we're also talking Savage Garden. Um Matchbox 20. And I'll even go so far as to say I freaking loved listening to Juwel. I had the CD.

[00:38:25]I loved it. Sorry, guys. Yeah. There you go, Stone. That's the right reaction.

[00:38:31]So, >> he's going off camera.

[00:38:34]>> Jeremy, what happened to your penis?

[00:38:36]>> Yeah.

[00:38:37]>> Yeah, it's inverted.

[00:38:40]>> We were inverted. Anyway, >> we were inverted.

[00:38:44]>> Hey, you asked what what they'd be surprised about. I just said, >> "Wow, Jonesy, how about you?

[00:38:52]>> I've got >> Well, I'm gonna get close. Uh, I'm like Jeremy and so I'm gonna lose my I have a pinette. A pinette is what I have. And not a penis, a pinette.

[00:39:05]>> I I I loved that first Atlantis Morset record. I thought it was [ __ ] amazing.

[00:39:12]>> Me, too. That's >> I loved the first Hoodie and the Blowfish record.

[00:39:17]>> Oh, yeah.

[00:39:18]>> So good.

[00:39:19]>> Yep.

[00:39:19]>> So good. And I also loved Matchbox 20.

[00:39:23]those three bands right there at during that time >> just sort of I guess I got my pop feel out of that. So that that'll be my three bands.

[00:39:32]>> Thank you Jones. I appreciate you brother.

[00:39:34]>> No worries.

[00:39:35]>> Guru, please clean up the mess on Isisle Jones in your >> Well, I I'll be honest and this is not in my answer, but the first time I heard the song Hold My Hand from Hoodie and the Blowfish, I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is awesome." So my in 1995, I was at a party. I think I've told this before and we're all drinking and and they had a record player and they were playing John Denver's Greatest Hits and I was like, "Holy [ __ ] I completely, you know, I remembered hearing that [ __ ] Rocky Mountain High, Sunshine on my shoulders when I was a little kid, but I fell in love with John Denver." And then I got into a big alt country phase.

[00:40:14]Sunvault, Uncle Tupelo. Where the [ __ ] are my notes so I don't get lost? Um, I fell in love and it's been said before.

[00:40:25]Matchbox 20, yourself or someone like you. There was so mellow and and oftentimes heartbreaking. I loved that album. Um, so Alt Country, uh, some some very light pop rock and and John Denver kind of defines my mid 90s. You know what I heard about John Denver?

[00:40:46]>> Be careful.

[00:40:47]>> I heard he's full of [ __ ] man. That's what Carrie told.

[00:40:50]>> That's right.

[00:40:51]>> Yeah.

[00:40:53]>> The Rocky Mountain to be a little rockier than that.

[00:40:56]>> That's right.

[00:40:57]>> I remember. Yeah.

[00:40:59]>> I got into I I got real heavy. I would I got That's when I got into Panta real big, but I also got even more death metally than that. That's when my love for the band Cradle of Filth started and their album Cruelty of the Beast. I just really got into that. Uh I my love for the Misfits. I was hawking Misfits tapes to anybody and everybody who would listen, especially the second era with this guy right here, Michael Graves, uh who is one of my favorite vocalists. Uh Fear Factory was a big one for me. The second album OBS or the third album, Obsolete, was was a big one for me. Um really into that. And then some pop stuff that I really got into. I really like the group Republica that sang the song Ready to Go. That album was really [ __ ] great. So, >> hey Patrick, >> I'm like Jeremy. I won't say Jewel though.

[00:41:45]>> Patrick, what about Paradise Lost? One second.

[00:41:48]>> Oh god. One Second by Paradise Lost. A great freaking record. Very, very dark.

[00:41:52]Great record. Uh Matt, what band do you think released the most true to form album during the dark years?

[00:41:59]>> So proud of this band and this album. It is my favorite album by this band. Uh 1994 Cinderella Still Climbing. There there was zero compromise. what they said, I'm we're making a Cinderella album. Uh we're not going to do the whole blues thing like we did on the Heartbreak. We're going back to Long Cold Winter. How would you know that that album was 1994? It could have been 1988, could have been 1986. Uh it is a glorious return to um to their to their roots and I freaking love that album so much. And we need in 1994. Had to have that album when it came out.

[00:42:35]>> Very cool. Even had a TV commercial. It was cool.

[00:42:37]>> Yes, it did. Yeah. A really funny one, too. Yeah, Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:42:42]>> Stone, that is the best pick anybody could ever have. Nothing beats that. I never thought of it. Um, on my list, I had a Return to Form. Like I said, I refell in love with this album. I I found it again. Uh, Slaughter's Fear No Wevil. I thought stayed pretty true to form with what they were doing. Had some great rocking tunes on it. So, I went with Fear No Evil, but I'm going to change it to Still Climbing because that was the album for me.

[00:43:05]>> Very cool. Jonesy, what do you got? I went with Saigon Kick Devils in the details. Um, you know, it was such a I think is, you know, the water part two and actually I think I like it better than water. But, uh, yeah, that was my pick.

[00:43:20]>> That's a great record. Hair metal guru.

[00:43:23]>> Cinderella is a good answer. And I I kind of forgot them earlier, but how could I still climbing? But my answer is Kicks show business made no attempt to try to grow lyrically or soundwise and got awesome for doing it. Like they stayed [ __ ] true to form.

[00:43:42]>> I psy schizophrenia psycho schizophrenia. I mean that was the next progression in my opinion for where they were going. with an honorable mention.

[00:43:51]This will get me slaughtered in here by everybody but stone, but I'd say Subhuman Race because it was the continuation of where they were going with uh Slave to the Grind. It's a great record. Unfortunately, uh I just blew up Hair Metal Guru's brain, but >> that was the next continuation. Holy [ __ ] >> Less of a leap from Slave than Slave was from the first album.

[00:44:16]>> True story. True story, guys.

[00:44:18]>> Very true. Beat that statement. Boy, that's a good statement.

[00:44:22]>> Yeah, but at least at least from the first album to the second one, they went somewhere good.

[00:44:29]>> All right, one of the more controversial uh questions uh of the last few here.

[00:44:36]Stone, what were your initial thoughts when David Lee Roth was announced to not be coming back to Van Halen after the MTV Awards uh reunion and uh Sammy Hagar was out and Gary Chiron was announced.

[00:44:50]What were your initial thoughts of Chiron announced as the Van Halen singer?

[00:44:55]>> I was pretty mad that Haggar was gone.

[00:44:57]Okay, so let me start with that. Um, I would I would come to to appreciate Roth a lot more after the 90s, going back to those um Roth and Halen albums, which I really do love now. I was not in love with in the 90s other than a couple of the hits. Um, so not getting Roth back.

[00:45:16]I had Your Filthy Little Mouth from 1994. I think I bought the same day.

[00:45:21]Either bought Boston or Mly Crew. I actually can't remember. It was one of the two. Um, and I realized I was like, I don't want lounge singer Dave with Van Halen because that's basically what he was. Yeah.

[00:45:31]>> And so Chiron, I wasn't a huge Extreme fan. I thought Waiting for the Pon was a horrendous album. Okay. The worst Extreme album by far, >> but I did appreciate Chiron and I knew both performance-wise and vocal wise he could do it. And most importantly, I like that they picked somebody from our genre. It was not the hip thing or the safe thing to do in that time. And so I was actually really excited about Chiron.

[00:46:02]>> Okay, >> there you go. Jeremy >> Jones, don't hate me for this. I I like Van Halen, but I don't love him. So, I wasn't a huge enough fan to really care.

[00:46:12]I mean, I I cared enough, but I would I really wanted them to go with Mitch Malloy. He's a North Dakota native. He He was signed on to do that album. He uh has a phenomenal voice. such a talented singer. I was really pumped. And then they went with Gary and whatever. I I liked Extreme. Not like most of us, but I liked Extreme, so I was excited about that, too. But I heard a couple songs from Van Halen 3. Never bought the album. Just wasn't that big. When Mitch Malloy was kind of thrown to the wayside, I was like, "Yeah, I don't need to have that one, I guess."

[00:46:43]>> Josie.

[00:46:44]>> Yeah. I you know going back I was super pissed when they got rid of Sammy and Dave come out and done that stupid [ __ ] on the MTV awards and his whatever he was doing. But with that being said, the two songs he had on the greatest hits, I thought this pretty good songs. Yeah. What was it me? Um >> Wise Magic.

[00:47:05]>> Yeah. I thought good songs no more.

[00:47:07]>> Can't get this stuff no more. Yep. I thought both of them was really good songs. Um, but when I first heard Without You with Chiron, I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is going to be fantastic." I loved that song. I thought that song was fantastic. And I wouldn't I'm not a big Extreme guy either, but I thought it was great. And boy, did I was that I proven wrong so quickly. That record is horrible. And uh, >> but I did love Without You live. I did get to I did go see him on that tour and he done the old David Le Roth stuff so good and he done and he done the Hagar stuff so good. So lively that is fantastic. But >> yeah, >> Metal Guru, how do you feel?

[00:47:55]>> Well, when when I saw uh David Lee Roth and get up on stage with them and how he looked and how idiotic he was acting at that awards show when they announced he was out. I'm like, you Van Halen guys just [ __ ] got away with one because that was bound to be a disaster is what I thought. But I wasn't the biggest Van Halen fan. So I was kind of like whatever. And I don't remember when I heard that Mitch Malloy was up for it.

[00:48:24]North Dakota boy, thanks for stealing my thunder there, Jeremy. But I'm like well that would have been interesting. Um, I Matt brought up a great point that it was really cool that they didn't go, "Okay, we got to get some new edgy guy.

[00:48:37]They got somebody from [ __ ] extreme who was really talented." So, >> in the mid '9s, we just all kind of thought Van Halen was [ __ ] indestructible. It doesn't, you know, they were like, you know, whatever.

[00:48:52]Like, they were one of the bands who were never going to be impacted by the times. But we found out we were wrong with the three album. But I I I I thought, "Hey, that'll be interesting with Chiron." So that's all I thought.

[00:49:05]>> Yeah. I was sitting outside my job selling baby clothes in a baby store at 7:15 in the morning with my friend Kent sitting in his car while Bill Prescott on his morning show on KU KUFO read the announcement the press release from David Lee Roth saying they [ __ ] me over I'm not going to be in the band and Gary Chiron is the singer of Van Halen and looked at my friend Kent and went the [ __ ] from Extreme.

[00:49:41]Never believed it was going to be anything big. Was never a fan of Extreme. I know people on this channel love them and God bless you because you know what? They've got something to them that people love. Right.

[00:49:51]>> Well, >> I guess >> I like about four songs on that record, but I want to say this before we go to the next tra next question. The biggest tragedy of the Van Halen three-piece is that after that tour, they went back in the studio and were writing one of the what was being called by a lot of people some of the best material rockwise that Van Halen had done in years and it all has sat shelved >> and there were song titles and everything they talked about. I hope someday we get to hear those uh songs because they could have been very very cool. the way talks about him. It just of all the unreleased albums that that we never heard, that's my number one.

[00:50:34]>> Let let me add this. Uh to piggyback on Jones, when I heard Without You, I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is really [ __ ] good."

[00:50:42]>> Yeah.

[00:50:43]>> So, yeah. Too bad without >> Someday we will have to cover the Van Halen 3 on our controversial record.

[00:50:49]>> Yep.

[00:50:50]>> Final three questions. And these are some doozies here. Matt Kiss had arguably the biggest comeback of the late 90s of any band.

[00:51:00]What did you think of their comeback?

[00:51:02]And did you think it was going to be as successful as it was?

[00:51:05]>> I have to say two things. One, I didn't give a [ __ ] because I wasn't a Kiss fan.

[00:51:08]But but here's part two. I did care actually because I really wanted to see if a band of their stature could do what the other bands couldn't. And so for that reason alone, I actually, and you know this, I bought the damn thing. I bought the album.

[00:51:25]>> You raised your glass.

[00:51:26]>> That's right.

[00:51:27]>> Kind of liked it. Like I'm not a Kiss fan at all. I like Raise Your Glasses.

[00:51:32]And you know what song I actually really love? Um, what was the last song that Jean sang? It's kind of a slower song.

[00:51:38]It's not a ballad, but um >> Dreaming. Dreaming or something?

[00:51:42]Dreaming.

[00:51:43]>> No.

[00:51:44]>> We are one.

[00:51:45]>> No.

[00:51:46]>> Journey of a thousand years.

[00:51:48]>> Yes.

[00:51:49]Oh yeah, >> I thought that was a really really cool song and I liked the title track. I thought the 3D view was really cool. But anyways, I was just I wanted to see if of of one of the biggest bands of all time if they could kind of break through. But 1998,9798 was a little bit different from the mid9s. Bands were just starting to not be made fun of and and be allowed to have a little space. So, I think it would have been different if Kiss tries to release that in the middle of 1995.

[00:52:20]>> Jeremy, where were you with this whole Kiss reunion?

[00:52:23]>> I loved it. I loved it. I I I wanted it nostalgically. I loved that they were doing it um with the original four. I loved that the makeup was back on. I got to see the show. It was phenomenal. I wish The Kiss Army would have showed up a little bit more to support Psycho Circus. I already mentioned that in this video. Um I love that album, but it was great. I loved seeing rock and roll succeed. Plain and simple. Holy >> Jonesy Kiss Reunion.

[00:52:46]>> Yeah, I I liked it, too. As much as I love the '8s Kiss, and I prefer the '8s Kiss over the original. Sorry, but uh but I was, you know, I I was excited for it. I remember rush rushing home on Halloween night to watch that unplugged to see them all together and then all of that started and then Yeah, I got to see the tour. It was amazing because I'd never seen the original band. Yeah, it was great. It just it ran what 28 years too long. But >> air metal guru, we all know where you're going to come in on this.

[00:53:22]>> I I I was I was so [ __ ] ecstatic.

[00:53:28]They came out at that awards show and got introduced by like Tupac or some [ __ ] >> Yeah, that's right.

[00:53:34]>> And you were like, "Holy [ __ ] there they are." And then the tour gets announced and I don't I don't think anybody I mean I think people thought oh it'll do pretty well. Remember on Revenge they had been playing some shows to like 1,500 people. Not all. Some shows did really well but some shows did really poorly. They sold out Tiger Stadium in 43 minutes.

[00:54:04]>> They played like three nights at Madison. It was just like the 70s. So, uh, I was and and and what what that gave us or me hope was maybe this is where rock comes back. You know, Aerosmith had come back in in in 87 with Permanent Vacation. And now Kiss is back and now maybe it'll be like, oh, this next band, maybe Poison or whoever is going to come back and it'll be massive just like Kiss. Um, it didn't end up being that way and then and then Psycho Circus came out in '98 and the response was tepid to say the least. But it was so [ __ ] exciting when that when that reunion happened.

[00:54:49]>> I could have cared less as well about Kiss, but what was fascinating to me about it was how Metal Edge completely transformed from being Metal Edge and it became Kiss Edge, >> right? every app or every edition of it had some multicolor fold out KISS thing and a KISS article and Kiss this and Kiss that magazines.

[00:55:11]>> Here's the report of KISS playing under the bridge in New York. Uh here's Kiss, you know, at the Super Bowl, you know, all of these things. Um Kiss Mania was alive and well. It was everywhere and it ruined my magazine.

[00:55:29]And then Paula Gargano ruined it even further when he came out.

[00:55:32]>> Oh god. When Manson was on every cover.

[00:55:34]Yeah, exactly. So good for the Kiss nerds though. They loved it. So >> [ __ ] you, Patrick.

[00:55:42]>> Uh Stone, what album was the best album released by any band of the genre during the dark years?

[00:55:50]>> God, I again I I need to give you my top 100 now, so it's going to be a long video. Um, no. I My runner up, so many.

[00:55:58]My runner up is Violent New Breed by Shotgun Messiah. My number one right here >> for the quintessential mid9s dark period.

[00:56:11]>> Excellent.

[00:56:11]>> Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:56:13]>> Well, I had winger pull, but thanks to you, Stone, and I I sincerely thank you, buddy. I'm going Cinderella Steel Climbing. That blew my mind on every single level.

[00:56:25]Jonesy, what do you got?

[00:56:26]>> Yep. Grew 94 easily.

[00:56:30]>> Hair metal guru.

[00:56:31]>> Uh, honorable mention to Arcade, Every Mother's Nightmare, Lilian Axe, and and and and many more. But the one album that I still continuously listen to these days is Warrants Ultra Phobic.

[00:56:47]>> We should have Bonjovi these days.

[00:56:50]That's >> what I thought. I was like, Bonjovi. I'm not Bon Joy these days at all.

[00:56:55]>> The only one I listen to these days.

[00:56:59]Uh for me, it's e it's a it's a three-way tie. Uh Subhuman Race, Bell or four-way tie, Subhuman Race, Bellyto Belly, Violent New Breed, or Ultra Phobic. All of those are incredible records. I'd probably say either Subhuman Race because it's my favorite album ever or Belly to Belly. They're just two incredible records. So, uh, last question of the night of the video, Stone, the best album cover to come out of the dark years belongs to runner up.

[00:57:32]And there's two versions and they're both phenomenal. Slaughter, Fear No Evil. If you haven't seen the Japanese version, very cool as well. Love both versions. But I'm going to go way out there. Favorite album cover, Nelson.

[00:57:45]Silence is Broken. It's a woman's finger with red umh fingernail paint and she's whispering and a glass is breaking and I just think it's beautiful. What What else?

[00:57:58]>> God, I thought you were going to say imaginator.

[00:58:03]>> Jeremy, what do you got?

[00:58:05]>> I'm stepping out of line a little bit, too. Um runner up for me is Bruce Dickinson's Accident of Births with the clown on it and he's doing his thing. I love the Bruce Dickensson soul albums from the from those years, but my winner is uh Ripper Owens, baby. Judas Priest Jugulator is bad ass to the bone. So is the album. So Jugul is mine.

[00:58:27]>> Gotcha. Jonesy, what do you got?

[00:58:29]>> I'm going with Van Halen Balance and the two Siamese twins on the uh teeter totter. I just I loved that. I just just so good. So that I went with balance.

[00:58:42]>> Very cool. Guru.

[00:58:44]>> Um I always liked Taiketto's strength and numbers with those wolves on the cover for some reason. Um Matt spot on with Slaughter's Fear No Evil. Even even though in general CMC had the worst [ __ ] album covers of all time.

[00:59:00]>> Yeah.

[00:59:01]>> And I'll just add that the worst one during that period was well there's a lot but LA Guns. The LA Guns, American Hardcore with a [ __ ] with a gangster rapper and all that. Oh, that was so stupid.

[00:59:19]>> All right, >> I just want to point out that I recorded this video before I interviewed Chris Van Dal from LA Guns, who was the singer on the American Hardcore album. And I feel bad that I've kind of [ __ ] on that album in this video, but I I think Chris was open about wishing they had gone a different direction. So, none of my comments on the on the American Hardcore album by LA Guns should reflect anything about Chris Vanal because Chris Vanal is amazing. And go check out his his album with his band Angels in Vain. It's awesome. I got two. Uh, one of the best that I I didn't like the album and we almost got a chance to meet that band.

[01:00:07]Iron Maiden's X Factor had a very cool album cover.

[01:00:11]>> Yeah, it did.

[01:00:12]>> And uh, Danger Dangerous for the Hardway, the Japanese version, I thought had a killer looking album cover with that woman with the weird glasses. I thought that was super cool. So, with that, we have now completed talking about what Eric Turner of Warrant called The Dark Years.

[01:00:30]>> Yeah, >> The Dark Years was a uh there's some real gold in there, so make sure and check it. And you can always hear about all the cool [ __ ] that came out during the Dark Years on the best channel on YouTube, which belongs to one of my best friends in the world. His name's Anthony Bryant. He's right here. Take it away, Anthony Bryant.

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