Medical evidence, such as the severity of injuries and the mechanism of injury, can contradict a suspect's account and reveal the truth in child abuse cases. In this case, a father claimed his 1-year-old son fell during bath time, but medical evidence showed the child had two skull fractures and his brain shifted 11mm, indicating a high-energy mechanism inconsistent with a simple fall. This demonstrates how forensic medical analysis can expose deception and identify the true cause of injuries, even when the perpetrator attempts to shift blame or provide alternative explanations.
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I'm trying to tell you I would never hurt him. A terrified father claims he has no idea how his 1-year-old son ended up fighting for his life. But as detectives begin examining the evidence, they quickly realize the injuries inside that hospital room are far too severe to be explained away by accidents or excuses. His brain shifted 11 mm. That takes some force. Did he fall from a two-story building? Did he get hit in the head with a baseball bat from an adult? Late at night, emergency responders rush to a home in Michigan after reports of an unresponsive toddler. Inside the house, panic fills the air. A young child is barely breathing, his head badly swollen. While his father desperately tries to explain what happened before police arrived. How did this happen? I don't know why you keep asking me. I'm going to stop answering if you keep asking me how it happened when I'm trying to I told you the story like three different times.
The results of your investigation have shown that you're being deceptive on you not causing the injuries to that child.
My dad loved me when I was a child, and I never want to lose my kids or my kids lose me. Doctors immediately recognize the situation is critical. The toddler's skull fractures are so severe that he must be airlifted for emergency treatment. Medical staff suspect the injuries were caused by massive force, the kind rarely seen in ordinary household accidents.
Anything about the baby, if he's doing all right or anything?
Well, we'll I was going to ask that cuz I already asked him.
Yeah, we'll get get to all of that. I mean, obviously we've been doing other things, so we we have not been with the baby or anything like that, too.
So, now what I want to do is go over this form with you.
You're not under arrest or anything, but with you being brought by by police officers here and everything like that, I want to read this form for you.
Detectives rush through Miranda rights.
With a patient in critical care, every minute counts. Do you understand each of these rights I have explained to you?
Yes, sir.
Having these rights in mind, do you wish to talk to us now?
Yes.
I want to make sure that we're under a clear understanding of why we're here today. Mhm.
Do you know why you're here today?
Cuz I called you guys for the baby.
Okay. And what happened to the baby?
I explained it to you guys already.
Well, let me explain it again.
>> Well, I mean, the baby was injured and went to the hospital.
Yeah, cuz he was non-responsive. Okay.
And so >> a lot of medical things. I just know what my dad told me to do and stuff. I'm going to I'm going to ask you flat out, did you do something to cause those injuries to Um I No.
I did not hurt Okay.
Okay. So, >> [clears throat] >> I guess fill me in on the on the family dynamics. So, there's you. Yes. And just go through everybody. Like everyone in our household? Mhm. Uh there's me.
Do you want me to say who she is the like mother of all the children or anything?
>> Mhm. Yep. Explain explain the whole family dynamic. Okay. Well, start with me. It's me. I'm I'm the biological father.
Yeah. And biological mother of all the children.
Because of redactions, the family setup isn't fully clear.
But it appears there were four children at home with Brian. Now, how long has it been that all the kids have been in the the same house together?
Like we just Okay, so we had him removed last year, a little over a year ago, because of an incident where he has he has a fracture on the back of his skull because my mom opened the truck door. I think I explained I don't think I explained that to you or someone else.
But he had open My mom had opened the truck door, he had got hurt, and they took the kids away from us for a year, and then we just [clears throat] had got them back because there was no concerns and all that stuff.
And uh So that all got dropped. Randomly like out of the blue they just called us one morning asked us they reviewed the house. Um they've been home for They would probably I would have to say at least a month and a half a month cuz they were home it was after Christmas it was after Christmas.
I believe after May.
I'm not sure on dates or anything. It's a lot. What Brian just shared is highly concerning given his current situation.
A year previously all of his children were removed from their custody after his older son suffered a skull fracture.
It looks bad and he knows it. So tell me a little bit about you.
Do you work at all? Me? Uh I live stream on Tik Tok. That's about it. You live stream on Tik Tok?
>> Yeah, like gaming kind of stuff. That's really about it. It's not really work but it you can like earn money through gifts and stuff so it's kind of something. Other than that ever since me and her got together I've been the stay at home person. So you stay home, watch the kids >> Yes. and then also are on Tik Tok. Well, no I do that I do Tik Tok in the morning and then at night when they go to bed which since they've come home I've only done it once because I don't do it much because I don't have like We're still getting situated with sleeping arrangements and stuff like trying to go to sleep cuz he's used to sleeping by himself at my grandmother's who had him when we lost them.
>> [snorts] >> Mhm. So he slept by himself and then when he kind of I think he had slept around her sister's house. I'm not sure how her bed thing was.
So are you on any kind of medications at all or any No alcohol. I haven't drank since March 19th of last year. I quit because of my kids.
Okay. was that an issue in the past? Uh nothing like nothing abusive or nothing but I would get I would drink out of like uh like being kind of like upset or whatever but it was nothing to do with the kids. It was more so like my parents we were we were living with my parents me and my mom don't get along so I was drinking around them just to be like to beat off the get out like kind of like my mom's over here I'm over here kind of thing and that was just about it when we lost the kids me and sat down and we were like we had to figure out all these different things cuz like You said it was 2019?
When? That you quit drinking?
>> Oh no I quit drinking last year March 19th. March 19th? Yeah this March 19th on my birthday will be a will be a year. I quit on my birthday.
>> Okay. And you haven't you haven't had it all? No I haven't touched it. It's good it's that's good that's awesome. Uh what about marijuana? No. No marijuana?
I haven't done that since I tried it in high school. Okay. I never got into it.
And no no other illegal drugs? No. Okay.
Never tried anything.
About doing drugs? Yeah.
Uh I know she used to smoke weed but I don't believe she's done it recently.
Okay. Me and her had like relationship problems during this and she was seeing someone else but I don't know if she did it then or what but How long ago was that?
That was like uh November that was right around right after Halloween or before Halloween.
And how about any other illegal drugs with her?
Not that I know of. She hasn't drank or nothing or anything like that. No alcohol either? Not that not since we lost the kids I don't think she's done any of that stuff. I don't think she's done it in a while.
So at least a year but I trust her on that one.
So so I asked you before if you you caused the injuries and I was there and and you stated no.
Do you know who did then?
No, that's why I explained how the kids are with the baby. That's why we try to keep an eye on the baby, but baby's been fine lately.
>> [snorts] >> Like I said, like 3 or 4 days ago, maybe a week ago, there was that problem where the baby fell and didn't want to take him to the hospital cuz she said he was fine.
He had like a red mark or whatever and she said it was going fine. She kept checking on it every day and whatnot. I just tried carrying him around with me for a couple days and make sure she was okay. I trust like with that kind of As Brian speaks with detectives, something feels off.
Instead of focusing entirely on his son's condition, he spends much of the interview explaining himself, defending his parenting, and trying to control how investigators see him.
Well, with with the injuries that occurred, someone had to do something to it. And and so I understand. I I I know that you you said it wasn't you and and you you don't think anybody else, but if you have any suspicion The only one that the only one that goes after the kids, my my will do it once in a blue moon. He'll get mad and but he doesn't push or nothing. When pushes in like um he's when we first got him back, he had a lot of issues with him sharing because him and his my nephew always had stuff of their own. But at the house, he's been in the bedroom and he's choked out my I've had to run back there and grab him.
It's all my my problems are all with his therapist, too. They all know they know about everything.
But he's very I guess you [snorts] could call it abusive towards the other kids.
He's not because I think he's because she's older. He feels like that you know, she can get mad back at him, which she does cuz she when he tries to go after her, she'll she'll put her foot down and be like I'm older than you blah blah blah and then leave it at [snorts] that. But with the baby he's uh he's pushed the baby a few times. He hit the baby with um this Hot Wheels track thing that's underneath our kitchen our kitchen underneath our living room table.
He's choked out my multiple times.
Straight up just decked him in the face a couple times. The deeper detectives dig into the family's past, the more disturbing the situation becomes. This is not the first time one of the children has suffered a serious head injury. Suddenly, Brian's claims of innocence become much harder to believe.
How do you feel about being interviewed about anything like this? I just want whatever I have to do. I I I grew up with this stuff. Like I'm I don't mind answering any question you guys ask me. That's What do you What do you mean by you grew up with this kind of >> Oh like my my dad was a fireman, my dad was my uncle was a cop, so I grew up in seeing the cops.
>> I didn't know if you No, nothing rude towards you guys. I I didn't know if you meant as in in being interviewed in circumstances similar to this or anything like >> Oh no, like I'm just saying like I don't mind answering any questions that anyone asks. I don't ask I'm not a problem. I don't ask for a lawyer. There's no agony. I answer my own questions. I'm a big boy. So I just want the best that you guys want to We'll figure that out at the end, but I I just want to make sure everything's okay.
So I answer all all my questions the best I can. So if someone did actually hurt tonight what do you think should happen to them?
There was only a child child in the house. Child or children in the house.
Okay. And I'm just saying like the one that the one that we have problems with and he's a child. So I mean what do you What What What do you think should happen to him then?
To him? [clears throat] Yeah. I mean I understand I don't >> not disciplining, hitting her or nothing. Don't take that The The discipline with me is not hitting her, physical abusing nothing like that. I want to make sure that's clear. Um, >> [clears throat] >> but some type of he needs to have Brian begins pointing toward the other children inside the home. Especially one child he describes as aggressive. But detectives already know the medical evidence does not support that theory.
The injuries are simply too catastrophic to have been caused by another toddler.
Just hypothetically it was an adult that hurt There's no adult inside the house. I I'm I'm asking hypothetically. So Whatever Whatever happens, I guess. Whatever Well, I I guess that Well, I don't know what you mean. I've never I'm sorry. I'll I'll change the question. If an adult hurts the kid and puts them in the hospital, what should happen to that adult? Probably be arrested. I mean, I There are a lot more things that I would say about the adult, but Okay. Like are you talking about my kid? Like if it's my if someone else Are we talking about like my kids getting hurt? Or just a kid in general?
Let's say in particular. If an adult If an adult hurts You said lock him up?
Of what? I'd knock him up. Lock him up.
Is that what you said? I mean, I'll try to get my hands I'm not to be rude, but I'll try to get my hands on him first.
I'm going to be honest. Okay. I wouldn't hurt kill no one or nothing like that, but I would definitely set people straight. That's how I don't know. That's [clears throat] how kind of like my dad was. He never hurt none of us, but my dad was always like if someone hurts your kid, that's how it is. Cuz of like when high school I got my ass beat, my dad settled that one.
>> [snorts] >> Every answer Brian gives creates new problems. He over explains simple questions, changes details repeatedly, and constantly redirects blame toward other people. Detectives notice that the more pressure he feels, the less believable his story becomes. Do you think that that someone that that hurts a kid and puts them in the hospital, do you think that person deserves a second chance?
Uh kind of depends on the scenario.
Well, if it was my son, I don't know. It depends on who it is.
That's how That's how I think about it.
I mean, it's kind of weird. Well, like my mom Okay, my mom has mental problems and this and that. She's snapped before and I've gave her multiple chances like my She's called us in the middle of the night saying we she needs to drop him off and we feel like she's hurt he was a baby and we kind of kept giving her chances.
I mean, I don't know if she really hurt him or not, you know what I mean? But it I I don't know how to answer that question. It's kind of Like it doesn't I don't know about making I don't know what's like a chance. Well, say say they're they're sorry, they they apologized, they're trying to make things right.
Then, do you think or or not?
>> It depends on how they say sorry. Like if they're saying it to my face, it just depends. I'm a very like you and me talking right now, I'm very I'm more comfortable with someone instead of calling me, coming to my house and you know, confronting me about something. Like all the problems I've ever had in life, like even like money, hey, I can't pay you back, whatever. But if you come to my face and you talk to me about it, my kids, that that thing's a way different scenario. But if you come to my face and you tell me straight up that like, "Hey, this happened or that happened."
Then like I would like talk to you about it and try to fix things.
That's it's kind of a thing, I guess, because me and my brother, my younger brother got hurt by my older brother and me and him fixed it by sitting and talking.
>> [snorts] >> Investigators start paying close attention to Brian's emotions. While his child remains in critical condition, Brian appears far more terrified about losing his family and facing consequences than he does about the possibility of his son dying.
Have you ever been questioned about a child of yours or being hurt before?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I've kind of kind of fill me in on on that. Like the interview thing or just the whole process?
>> Yeah, the whole the whole process.
>> Um but so okay, so basically how we do it, me and how we load the kids in the car is all the car seats are in and uh or I'll make sure they're in.
She'll put them in and I go around and buckle them. We don't do that anymore because after my injury, but at my mom's house, we're staying with them.
We put Matt in the driver's backseat of my mom's four-door truck. Mhm. I'm on the opposite side putting in car seat and right about that back uh driver seat closes the door. He was just sitting there. You know, he just sits there and chills. My mom got in.
My mom like turned around. She was like, like talking to the baby kind of thing.
Got out, opened the door. He fell out.
It was all on camera and stuff. But he fell [snorts] out and he smacked his head and he got a fracture on his on his uh head.
So Was Was So He fell like >> Police interviewed you? Yeah, so the police So okay, so well after that we went to or local um and then stayed there. I had to work. I was at a kind of lumberyard at the time in Berkeley. Um but yeah, we ended up having interviews.
They set up these interviews and this and that um like lie detector test things and whatnot.
Um but basically it was like they just brought us in and asked us a couple questions and yeah, it was that. Yeah, honestly that was that was it with the We had only one interview one time.
And that was for that? Yeah, that was for Was anybody ever arrested?
No.
So, why don't you walk me through starting at when left the house to when police end up at your door. He's going to explain what happened that day, but because so much of it is redacted and his explanation Medical experts soon delivered devastating information to detectives. The toddler's brain has shifted from the impact, confirming the injuries involved tremendous force.
According to doctors, these wounds are consistent with extreme trauma, not a simple fall. She not want you to initially call 911 or wanted the cops called.
I don't think she wants Or did she want I didn't want 911 called at all. Like I know you guys take certain things Well, I say things you guys take them a certain way cuz like how you guys are No, I'm trying to I'm trying to figure what what you mean by Ever since we lost the kids Well, since we got them back, she just doesn't want anyone around them. Like she wants to like make sure her kids are home.
>> [clears throat] >> So, like anything like Um One day, like the third day they were home, it was like decking in the face and holding down and [ __ ] Like it didn't leave any bruises or nothing.
And like they stopped arguing for a few days after that.
Was he hitting them pretty hard, too, or Like really hard.
That's that's one issue that we're having is is that Yeah.
And he's hitting hard and he's not even leaving bruises. But here today Well, no, he's left He's left bruises on four, but my But but here today we have with two head fractures.
Really?
Two fractures to his skull.
A 3-year-old can't do that.
Okay.
So So that's that's an issue that we have. Um and we're trying trying to sort through that. I understand that. I'm just telling you I'm going to tell you guys I understand me 100 times. I know this goes.
I swear over as the what I say with what I'm about to say doesn't matter. It's just people I care about but everyone I care about and all my sons and we care about I just care about my life. I never hurt my but you know.
We're going to we're going to step out for a little bit. Do you need a water or anything like that?
>> I'll have water, please. A water? Yeah, you've been talking quite a bit so we'll see if we'll get you some water, all right? Thanks. Anything else? You good everything everything else? Okay. We'll be right back.
All right, man. [snorts] Here you go.
Appreciate it. Yep. Do you know is is he okay though?
Um the last I know he was flown down to Ann Arbor. Well, obviously because of the child. His his mom was in there and his aunt. Um we gave her the address um to go down there so I you know I don't Yeah, it's lame so I don't know. Yeah, I assume she's probably there by now. I don't I don't know but we gave her the address of where he was so that you know she's able to be down there.
So we'll be back in and talk to you in just a second, okay? Thanks. The moment detectives confront Brian with the hospital findings, the atmosphere inside the interrogation room completely changes. For the first time, his explanations begin collapsing faster than he can replace them.
So sorry about that that took a little time. We wanted to get a little more information on how he was doing. So So this is the information that we got.
Okay.
So like I said, he had two skull fractures.
And his brain shifted 11 mm.
That takes some force. Some major force we're talking. I don't I don't understand.
>> The doctors are Did he fall from a two-story building?
Did he Did he get hit in the head with a baseball bat from an adult?
I know I know I know how that works cuz same thing happened the same way. Everyone said a 3-year-old can do it and someone can't do that. We went to another doctor. Well, my real low they were proven wrong. That's how we got his kids back. I'm just saying.
>> he's he's in the Ann Arbor.
>> I understand that. I know. I'm not sure from specialist.
>> that. We had Ann Arbor in in our case.
They had everyone have stay in our case.
So, I'm just sorry. I'm not allowed So, I'm sorry. we're trying to figure out I'm just trying to I'm just trying to say certain people say certain ages and yeah, can't do it.
>> there's some voids in there and and everything like that and and we're trying to to to think This happened not long before or after This happened just before he threw up.
This happened I just called his friend. This didn't This did not happen 3 days >> Okay, I understand. There's there's there's no way he he would have been deceased 3 days ago. Do you mean deceased? Dead. If If this would have happened 3 days ago, he would have died back then because he wouldn't have received treatment. Yeah, I understand.
I'm sorry. So, so no. So, so I really I was I was trying to make sure I gave you all the information from what happened.
So, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to give you Cornered by evidence, Brian starts desperately searching for another explanation. He blames old injuries, previous accidents, and even other family members. But, detectives can see he is running out of places to hide.
Another investigation.
Yes.
Now, you were interviewed. Were you Were you ever requested to take a polygraph?
Yeah, we never did it. My mom and my dad told me not to do it. They always tell me not to.
>> Why Why is that? Cuz my my uncle is a sheriff and or I think he was a sheriff.
He was in the police department. My uncle always told us never do those things when we growing up.
That's what I said something my my uncle told me and my >> Was he Was he afraid of you lying? Who?
My uncle? Yeah. We never got in the scenario back then, but he always just told We lived in the middle of the woods. Like we were kind of like It's weird.
>> I've been I've been a police officer for 22 years.
I've never sat down with my kids and said, "If you ever get offered a polygraph test, both have to do one. I'm not going to I'm not going to watch you take one. Did Did they find this out that this happened and they offered it to you and then they told you to say no or Your uncle Oh, no, no, no, no. That was when I was a kid. My uncle told us never do it. Do you feel Well, how do you feel about that?
Do you feel that you made the right decision? What about doing lie detector test? About not doing one. Do you Do you feel like you did the I just made the right decision? I I was raised a certain way, so I just say I don't do them.
That's how my mom My mom growing up But But you're you're not answering the question.
>> Me? No. I asked you Did I regret?
>> Well, let me ask you again.
How do you feel about that? Do you think that you made the right decision about not taking a polygraph back then? Back then, yes. Because my mom came forward and was saying a bunch of stuff about my son and we had we put that back to court and that's then all these things happened and the workers looked into a lot of stuff.
Cut my mom out of the scenario and stuff to look into that and Yeah, yes, I I don't regret.
How about if a polygraph would help clear your name and and clear this up.
>> Clear my name for what? Before I didn't do one and I wouldn't do that whole problem. I mean, I don't want to lose my kids again, but it's a process that I went through that process.
And So you're you're happy with that decision back then and No, yeah, I still won't do it to this day.
So so if I if I asked you tonight if you'd take a polygraph >> No, I would not. That's because I trust my parents that I I don't trust my parents in life, but I trust them with with that.
It [snorts] it doesn't make sense, but I trust my parents when they told me not to do certain things in life. That's Brian's finally right about something. His reasoning for refusing a polygraph test doesn't make sense.
But it sure is convenient.
>> Like I like I showed or or said before the the injuries are not match matching up to anything that's that's been said so far, but also the time frame.
Why why did it take so long when you were noticing the signs and symptoms?
I've noticed it days. I understand that yeah, the fracture happened and then they said the fracture happened when he when this happened and then he had a leg fracture that they found out like 2 days later. I'm just saying like I'm not trying to be rude. I'm just trying to say how you guys are saying it and how they said it down there and how the workers have explained how everyone does like interrogations.
>> So so you don't don't believe that polygraphs are telling the truth.
>> I'm not I don't I don't That's not that. It's just what I've went through this already with my Mhm. And I can So I understand how it certain things work.
Not the best, but I understand cuz I just went through a year changing my whole life to make sure I try to get my kids back or whatever and make sure everything's happy so I can get my kids back.
Mhm. And it's like there's certain fractures, this and that, hairline fractures, all this stuff. I But these aren't hairline >> I understand that. I understand that.
I'm just saying in general like all these different fractures we ended up learning about them.
And like yes, I like I I believe you that they said like yeah, they could they could happen, you know, whenever, you know what I mean? When you just say they happen whenever then that is possible. I'm not saying you're a liar. I'm not saying nothing like that.
I believe you.
It's just >> Well, let me let me fill you in on this is that he is right now fighting for his life.
>> that. You think I don't I've sat for a year without my kids and learned how to throw my emotion away. You can't She >> [snorts] >> I had no emotion towards him.
>> And and I've lost my >> I understand like See, there's there's Okay, so he is severely injured tonight.
And it's like you didn't didn't notice anything happen until his head is swollen.
>> when I was I'm sorry. So, Yes, in the bathtub, yes.
Like Accidents happen. I understand And and here he is fighting for his life and we are trying to figure out what happened to also help him. Yeah, I understand that, too.
>> so again I I I I don't know what happened. I wasn't there, but something happened. And just let me So, was he sitting up on a counter and he fell from the counter and he struck his head?
No, but he's never been anywhere that I know high and fell. Not today.
>> While while you're working on the bed, were you were you lifting it up and he was underneath? Well, how do you know he was underneath when he was in the high chair the whole time? I'm just saying the whole time I built that bed he was in the high chair eating Cheerios things.
>> I didn't know that he was in there the whole time.
>> on a I'm just saying. Okay. So, he wasn't up there on the counter and >> No, he No, he does not sit on the counter.
>> Okay.
Okay, so I'm trying trying to throw out possibilities of of what happened and and you're saying that it's none of those could be an an absolute possibility.
>> on the counter. So, so The only place >> How how did this happen?
I don't know why you keep asking me. I'm going to stop answering if you keep asking me how it happened when I'm trying to I told you the story like three different times. Detectives reconstruct the timeline from that night piece by piece. According to Brian, the child became sick, started vomiting, and eventually stopped responding. Yet, despite these terrifying symptoms, there was a long delay before emergency services were finally called. Dealing with an injury that a doctor says I know you're saying that the doctors are wrong.
Um but they're saying that the injuries were something significant like a fall from a two-story building. Yeah, that's what they said.
Like like being struck by a head in the head with a baseball bat by an adult. Um >> That's the same thing they said.
I'm trying to tell you that's the same stuff.
>> Well, and and so So, not even 2 ft out of a pickup truck.
>> Do you have any thoughts in your head of what could have happened at your house that that caused that similar type of of injury?
>> No, the only thing he's ever He's hit multiple things in the living room. The only thing he's ever hit that's hard enough or whatever the floor is not hard enough, I don't think, but the table the wooden table is the thing that he's hit multiple times since he's been home. He ran through the house and slipped or whatever, and that's one thing that we want to get rid of, but that's the only thing he was near.
So, I don't know whether they're arguing about a stuffed animal like they do or a tablet that they do and took tablet and pushes them like he does or when he smacks them with hit him, pushed him, all these things that has been said to his counselor.
That he is >> So you So you believe that a three caused that? I'm not saying that he did it, but that's the That's the only person that's aggressive in our house.
The other The other two kids might I don't think they might I pushed them over like once since he'd been home. Other than that like people he'll sit there and scream at you. I think [snorts] the nicest person in the world. I think her I don't think the thing hit no one.
She said once because we like The more Brian talks, the more suspicious detectives become. His emotions seem rehearsed, his reactions inconsistent, and his priorities deeply troubling.
Even when discussing his son's condition, he repeatedly shifts the focus back onto himself. What What exactly happened three, four days to a week ago? I don't know cuz they're in the back bedroom and when We When they first came home, we would let them all go cuz all their toys are in back bedroom.
Um we were still situating the living room and stuff, but uh like cuz we were we wanted to move the living around room around again, but uh the kids would always just play in the back bedroom and they were fine for the most part, but every once in a while they would go after each other or they run out of the bedroom crying. Like not run, but you know, like baby walk out of the thing crying. So we would grab them, ask them what happened, and when it's time to listen to what's going on. Did Did you ask them what happened? When I went out [snorts] there, I asked what I asked them When I grabbed them, I was on the phone right I was doing that. I I didn't even ask what they doing her tablet. One of the tablets she's on her tablet. She lives on that thing all day long.
Like this is Okay, so you didn't ask it.
And And you didn't ask the >> cuz if something happened I would The thing is that when a thing sees something happen, she goes to someone.
Okay.
>> She always goes to me or her mom.
So And you didn't ask the other two what happened?
>> I asked when But that was after the fact of when I got on the phone I'm going out the door and I I'm just freaking out asking what's going on. I didn't ask him what happened to you guys. I just asked what's going on and he just sat there because they're freaking out because now he's in my arms and I'm walking out the front door while I'm on the phone with on Facebook.
And they're asking what's wrong. So they didn't get No one's going to answer a question when I'm when when they know something's wrong.
>> From From that point until when you called 911, how long of a time are we talking?
I don't know. He got all the times off my phone and all the messages.
If I If I remember right, it it was a quite a lengthy time.
>> like 15 minutes I think or something. So you're In between trying to get a hold of China and get her back.
It seemed like you were urgent at that point.
When I called >> it it took 15 minutes. Because I calling If you seen that you went through my phone and stuff. I'm just saying there was >> Yeah, but I I'm not Do you do >> remembering every single time that was on there. But I remember it was a lengthy time where I'm thinking This This is going on.
Why Why are we not >> of the whole time.
Once he got hurt, I called her and told her she needs to come home. And she was talking to her worker. Like her person that she works with.
But half time she was on the phone and she keeps keeps telling me call my sister, call my sister.
>> And did you think at that point that you needed to call 911?
>> I did. I hung up on her. She told me call my sister, call my sister. She told me told me call 911 once.
I said, "You want me to call 911?" And I I'm going out right now bye and then we talked on the phone and she said when I went out and [snorts] I'm like I'm calling calling someone and I'm going to go out whatever and she's like well call my sister. What is your sister going to do?
I started getting mad right away. I'm like what is your sister going to do?
She works at lighthouse whatever but I don't think she What is she going to do?
So I hung up on Rachel I called you I called well not you guys I called I called 911. I'm texting her this when you They all showed up she got mad because I called 911. Why?
I I know why because she just doesn't want she doesn't want to have all the kids getting taken away from me. I went through that whole year. But but what about her kids getting treatment? What do you mean? Is she not concerned about her kid getting hurt she didn't want hospital my mom's truck. Like I love I love her I really do.
Got hurt and he fell on my mom's truck my mom grabbed and me and my mom were like let's go to we're going to the hospital we're not going to the hospital he's Investigators discovered that Brian's partner allegedly did not want police involved. Instead of immediately seeking medical help the adults inside the home focused on avoiding outside attention.
A decision detectives find incredibly disturbing. Does that kind of concern you if you're not there and with the kids and something severely happens to them that she won't call for help?
Are are you concerned at all about that?
Like if Rachel hurts the kids? No if the kids get hurt in care. I know she won't call. She She would never call 911. Does it bother me? Yes it bothers me a lot but I trust her what I'm saying. Do I really think I should?
I don't know but I I love her. You know what I mean? It's weird.
I lost my whole family my mom who like lied to me half my life and then said it was my [ __ ] and to the girl that wants to be with me and get our kids back, I'm going to have to believe that I can trust her for anything.
And the other day when she was like, "Don't call." He wasn't acting weird, but he acted like he got hurt. You know what I mean?
Like he was just quiet, and then he was fine. Like wanting to play a little bit, but he was still quiet. Like he could sense that he was hurt.
But like tonight I had I had to call you guys. Like there was no her saying, "Don't." Like why or Well, if you if you didn't I I know that I I I was holding him not be alive anymore. Like [snorts] I'm trying to tell you I wouldn't have hurt him.
But I was holding him in my hands and like literally feeling his chest. I told you I was feeling his stomach and everything and at points he felt like he wasn't breathing. I got the dispatcher. I'm not trying to like I thank all of you guys again, but the dispatcher lady is like, "I can't hear you cuz I have some bad service by my shit." And I'm over here trying to make sure my was breathing.
And then you got who's like, "Why are you calling the police? Why are they there already?" Like "I'm on my way home." Like "What do you mean?"
I'm not going to carry And then what if he what if that stops? What if his breathing stops? I'm not holding in my hands.
>> [snorts] >> And now you think I think that you care the world for him.
That's what I think. And I think tonight was some sort of accident.
>> There was There was nothing that I I didn't even You're trying to say I did something? There's nothing happened. He took his bath. He was fine. We were playing with the toys. I was talking to her.
Noticed his head.
>> [snorts] >> It was getting worse. I told you that. I sent her a picture. I showed you the picture. If I didn't If If I didn't want help, I wouldn't have showed you the picture. I wouldn't have trusted you guys.
>> And this And And that's the thing is this >> she touches his head, but she doesn't say nothing about it. I don't really pay much attention because if she doesn't tell me like hey, this is getting She used to Whenever the kids get hurt or something, "Hey, it's getting worse.
Will you look at it? Like, I'm not a medically trained, but uh like I'll give you a reasoning." But then even if I say, "Oh, we should just take him and get Well, I don't have time for that.
I'm going to work." or "He's fine. We'll see how he does." As pressure intensifies, Brian suddenly becomes defensive and frustrated. He insists detectives stop asking how the injuries happened, even though he still cannot provide a believable explanation for the devastating condition of his son. Hold for for a second here. Uh Are you doing all right? Yeah.
Need anything? I see you got still half a water there. You good?
>> good. Okay.
Okay, Brian. Mhm.
So, I want to let you know the results of our investigation have shown that you're being deceptive on you not causing the injuries to that child. I don't know. I didn't You caused the injuries to Hayden. I didn't hurt You You're You say that I didn't say I I I They said this is why I lost our son.
>> I just said we lost our kids. What?
You said whatever I said. So, what happened? I didn't hurt him. I've never I've never hurt him.
Today, nothing has And and you cannot give any explanation to what happened to him today. I did not hurt my I did not I didn't do nothing to harm him.
>> [snorts] >> Was Was there an accident as well? No, there was no accident. The last The last time we ever had an accident with him which I don't even know when would be.
The only accidents that we ever have is we're in the kitchen cleaning and he's in the stove and like by the stove and we accidentally turn around and bump him, falls on his butt. There's I've There's So, is there is there any additional information that you can tell us about what happened tonight?
>> No, there is not.
Okay. Well, right now we are going to be placing you under arrest for assaulting Okay?
Can you stand up for us? Put your hands behind your back.
You can't put cuffs on me. Why you don't? No, cuz I didn't do that stuff.
Just stay tight. That's fine.
Don't get mashed by somebody.
We're we're we're still here to listen.
I understand that. So So, if you if you want to fill us in on what happened, you uh let the the officers know upstairs and you can come back down and talk to me, okay? Yes, sir.
It might seem like the detective backed down quickly, but he is far from finished with Brian.
Officers just need some extra time to get the extra information that they need.
Brian is brought back the next day. He's got one last chance to explain what happened to his son, but will he take it? So, first of all, one one thing I want want to inform you.
I've been working tirelessly on this.
Mhm.
Half the half the department has, and we've we've compiled lots of information, lots of uh uh interviews, everything like that. And uh one thing I want you to be aware of is that obviously we're completing a criminal investigation. I know. And one thing that I want you to know is it is also a crime if you lie to a police officer while being interviewed. Okay?
>> Okay. So, you understand that? Yes, sir.
Okay.
So, all that investigation that myself and all these other officers are doing, Mhm.
we have developed a lot of information uh through the interviews, through everything else, that you were the ones that caused these injuries to So, so with with that, I I know who did it, but I want to know why. I didn't >> What? Just Just let me Let me Hear me out, okay?
So, uh I'm thinking in my head I'm I'm going over this over and over and over and over and over again. So, what would cause this? What And talking with you I talked quite a bit of with you what What? Yeah. Last last night well, two nights ago, I guess. Early morning hours of yesterday. And I got to know you pretty well. I mean, I don't know you perfectly, but I can tell that you are a good person. You're not some monster out on the street. You're not You're not somebody that you're You woke up that morning and you said, "I'm going to hurt That's That's definitely not you.
Yeah. I I'm just That's That's definitely not you.
>> Like I'm not going to like I I Some of these things you might say to me just to say it to me to try to get in my head. I understand it, but I I'm trusting you guys fully. I tell all officers when they give me my food, "Thank you."
>> And that's that's the thing is is But there's I'm not I'm not going and saying that that you're a bad person, you planned this out. I think that this happened because it was a spur of the moment reaction. Something that I I don't know. I'm I'm thinking about all the stress that you're under. I'm thinking about >> [snorts] >> about what what could be building all this stress. And And from my thought is is here you are, you're at home, you're taking care of all these kids while at work.
I I talked to your mom and and she said that that >> [snorts] >> was not being being true to you. That she had admitted me. So, only reason we're together is because of the kids.
Right. And so, A few months ago Then that right there I told you how a few months ago she It was November she just said she wanted to like not see each other again because we would argue back and forth kind of thing, but our relationship so she started seeing stuff and then that stopped when we got the kids back.
>> Well, and and here's I understand what you're doing. You're doing with the stress thing. That's what >> Well, there was an there was a reaction that caused this. And and like I said, I don't think you you sat there and said, "Okay, I am going to do this to her."
No, it was it was all the stress that built up inside of you and you just reacted and you made a split-second mistake.
That's what happened. And and then from there on it put all this in motion. But, [snorts] I want to know what caused that. What what caused that mistake, that reaction?
At this stage of the interrogation, detectives believe Brian's behavior reveals far more than his words ever could. His nervous rambling, shifting stories, and emotional reactions suggest someone struggling to maintain control as the truth closes in around him.
His head was already What what caused that reaction?
>> was already was already hurt from the prior injury. It wasn't I don't know.
No, no, no. I understand I understand that's the fractures. That's what Can I explain myself? Here here here's the thing is is I I spoke with She she is the senior doctor, the specialist that is taking care of you.
And she she informed me specifically over the phone, this is a high energy mechanism. A high energy mechanism that causes That was her exact words. This was not I didn't Okay, can I explain myself cuz And and she also I want you to know this did not happen three to four days ago. I didn't say that. Okay, I want to know He fell out of my hands on the floor because of take a bath.
Detectives no longer believe this was simply a misunderstanding. They begin viewing Brian as a father desperately trying to survive the interrogation rather than a parent desperately trying to save his child. Fill me in on what happened with that.
>> I was giving him a bath. I took the pictures. Everything I said before about everything. I just I'm scared cuz I don't want to lose my kids. I understand that. I understand that. Tyler stuff my mom told me on the phone. It's recorded.
She told me to tell you guys everything. That's why last night So here we are. I know that last night I got a phone and asked the guard if I could talk to you. Okay. And then he said I don't know if you got a hold of your We're we're here today. I put him in the picture of his head because it was already didn't hurt. I didn't I had nothing happened before that other than them messing around and grabbed him one time and was trying to say like he's fine whatever and he has had like little marks on him.
Um but when I got him out of the bath out of the bath and when I went around he fell out of the towel and he hit his head on like the tub on the floor.
And I was in here at that point he was like kind of responsive but you could tell his eyes were closing. I was just scared and I didn't want to talk I should have told you guys I would have said that.
I don't want the mother of my kids hating me because I because I turned around and like when can you wait because I was working and trying to give him a bath.
And the baby [snorts] just falls out of his hands and now everything's all horrible. Said you're horrible.
>> I know that but I don't My dad left me when I was a child and I never wanted to to lose my kids or my kids lose me.
That's right.
It was an accident and I'm sorry I didn't tell you. I'm just so I'm so scared.
I didn't have to do it on purpose.
That's for her.
Everyone.
>> [snorts] >> I want to take a bath. He asked to take a bath and then I told him I turned around and you have to wait and I was holding the towel.
Like I actually hold So so let's let's slow down. So So [snorts] here you have in your arms. Yeah, can I stand up and uh Yes, go ahead and >> [snorts] >> But no, I I grabbed him out and I just had him like this. He wanted to take a bath.
>> No, slow down. The sink is here.
>> You said in a towel?
Yes, I had his towel. Okay. The one that was on the toilet or the counter when you guys came. I think it was on the toilet.
>> [snorts] >> But I had that when I went like this, he came out of the towel and I took towel this way towards the counter, which might have been why whatever candle warmer stuff towel went that way.
Went that way, I'm like stop. He fell.
>> [snorts] >> I went down. I didn't pick him up at first because I I wanted to see what was going on. I'm [snorts] calling I'm grabbing the towel back off the top of the sink and then [snorts] I wanted to wrap him in but he wasn't moving so I just dried him off. I'm telling This is going on this and this. I grabbed him and I put him out in the living room, grabbed my his clothes and I grabbed them again and I'm throwing them together and we went outside.
And that in between is when me and her talked on the phone. Did she undress him back down there? Mhm. I'm trying to be very informative about what I do. I don't want anything. But I that's in between me talking she's like call my sister.
Don't call the cops do that. Like I wish that Facebook reported phone calls because I I know she's not telling the truth because my mom has already told me on the phone. My mom was informed on this before you guys were before the cops Like when the cops showed up at my house because her ba her her son's dad lives a couple houses down. Okay. He called her and she's like I was just waiting for that phone call cuz I haven't talked to my mom in a year. That's the only person I know I can go to cuz if I didn't obviously you guys from what I know you guys have all of our phones everyone's. Mhm. I got to still try to call her and I said I don't know.
This is cuz my mother the mother of my kid I mean like So So you This is This is before the bath?
No, this was there in the bath. I picked him up out of the bath >> [snorts] >> and then he fell [clears throat] out of towel when I took Did you put him back in the tub? No, he never went back in the tub. He went Well, why did you take a picture and send it to No, no, that head injury was like that has been like that. I had that his head on on that side, I think it was this side, has been like that. So, he doesn't want to take him in.
Okay. [snorts] That's what I'm trying to tell you like if make I don't know I mean, I can't tell if he had like I know okay, you guys said if he has a skull fracture happened and then and then and then like when that happened like if he fell and it got worse and it gave him a skull fracture like that that's my fault that I dropped him. But, before that I've never touched my kids and I Finally, after hours of pressure, Brian introduces an entirely new explanation.
He claims the toddler slipped from his hands during bath time and struck his head. But, instead of sounding like a grieving father overwhelmed by guilt, the story sounds calculated and carefully prepared. Well, talking again with with the specialist, that swelling was caused during directly with his injury that date.
And and it and it continued to progress and the swelling on his brain and everything like that was caused from that fracture.
Uh the doctor was specific and adamant that that there was the the swelling that was was that much was because it instantly happened. It it happened that date prior to calling 911.
And so So, it's the day the only other person who had him was before she went to work. And and again, yeah, that >> I'm just saying that as until she goes to work cuz he wants he wants to be >> Well, no, I get that, but but but I'm what I'm trying to explain to you Unless when he went in the boy's room, but no one ever heard I'm trying to explain to you that this this happened before [snorts] bathtub, when he was put in the bathtub.
So so Nothing happened until I picked him up, and that's that's all.
Now they again the doctor said this wasn't from a fall.
So I never forcefully did anything to my Even during his confession, Brian's emotions appear centered around his own fear.
Fear of losing his children, fear of going to prison, and fear of being hated by his family. Detectives notice he speaks far more about himself than the child lying in critical condition.
I'm going to I'm going to tell you [snorts] the direct uh verbage.
A high energy mechanism not related to a normal fall. That is So So here's Right, and so here's here's the thing is you're stating he fell out of your hands.
Hit the tub, hit the floor, right?
That's what you stated.
>> I don't know if he hit his head, but when I turned he was laying the way that he laying But like you said, he he you said to me that he hit the tub It sounded It sounded When I When I When I dropped him I was looking at It sounded like he hit something, then he hit the floor.
Okay. I He I never forcefully did nothing to my But the fall the fall again is is a fall.
No, but a fall My son Did you whip around?
No no no, I had When I went to whip I went like this, and he I had him on the tub. I got to the sink >> How how high do you think? I I had him right here. Okay.
And I went to the tub >> show your movement exactly. From the tub to here, and I went like that to tell what out in the towel he just came out of the towel the towel and everything fell. The only thing I was able to grab like down here was the towel before it fell because he was his down force is stronger than a towel.
Okay. [snorts] And I was So you grabbed the towel.
Then what happened? What What did What hap- What was he doing at that point? He was laying there. I I threw the towel on the counter and then [clears throat] I [snorts] got down.
I'm looking at him but he was like jittery like his eyes jittery he's like responsive not not responsive. Like his eyes were When you say jittery were they like blinking?
>> like that they're like I don't know if I'm doing it correctly man it's Well just kind of explain what they what you saw.
>> This is the his eye his the way his eyes were and like his eyeball you could tell it was like moving or whatever like kind of he was I don't know what words like medical word words or anything but his eye was moving and his eye I always say Like twitching?
Yeah. Is that Is that his eye twitching?
>> twitching his eye itself was just moving. And his His eyelids were twitching?
>> Twitching and then they stopped and I was on the phone with and that's when I told her I'm like what do I do?
How was his breathing at that point? Um it didn't look like he was breathing but he was he was you could tell he was breathing in the bathroom when I went to go get him clothes and went back to the living room he he looked like he wasn't breathing at all.
Was he crying at all? No. He wasn't crying at all.
At that point he cried He cried he went unconscious?
>> He he cried for like a second and a half he cried for like maybe like one two kind of thing so like two seconds if that's like one two if that's how the seconds go. Just maybe two seconds when he hit the floor he cried and that was it he he had like a whine out and that was it.
>> [snorts] >> Okay. And then I after that I was just like I want to know what I need to do cuz right I was like do you even know she tells me not to call 911 at times but this is more serious than him just falling in the bedroom.
And acting a little weird, like he was when he was eating. Like, that's not normal either, but she said that he's fine.
He's back to pointing fingers at his partner. But that's not going to work either. Well, my my whole thing is is that nothing forcefully happened when he I I I respect and I I believe >> [snorts] >> an expert's advice. And she's stating this was not a normal fall. So, if if you're saying that you turned and he slipped out of the towel and hit and and fell and hit his head that way, it doesn't coin it doesn't correlate to the the injuries he received. I understand that. Yeah.
So, >> I mean, So, that's this last rule Did you fell less than that onto the ground and got a small fracture on the back of his head. Did Did you forcefully whip >> was no force Well, Well, then just hear me out and then then you can respond, okay? Did you forcefully rip around and that's when his head struck? I didn't I didn't forcefully do nothing. I turned around from literally went said something and I quickly just moved and I was trying to you know, when he went and he went down.
Did see this?
He was standing like at the bathroom corner, like in the by the closet. Yeah, that's what That's what I'm asking.
Yeah.
By the end of the investigation, detectives believe the horrifying truth is finally clear. A defenseless 1-year-old suffered catastrophic injuries inside his own home. And the person responsible spent hours trying to avoid accountability. What began as a desperate emergency call ultimately turned into a murder investigation that would destroy an entire family forever.
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