This video presents a strategic analysis of Iranian resistance movements, highlighting that while Iranian citizens risk their lives to request armed resistance from the outside world, the potential for post-regime regional instability must be carefully considered. The discussion reveals that separatist movements like Kurdish and Azeri groups have overlapping territorial ambitions that could ignite decades of conflict if the Islamic Republic falls, making it crucial for external supporters to understand that arming Iranian resistance could inadvertently create a 'forever war' scenario. The analysis emphasizes that Iranian national identity is deeply tied to territorial integrity, and any external intervention must account for the complex ethnic and political dynamics within the region to avoid triggering catastrophic regional conflicts.
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Mark Levin quote tweeted me again again. Second time Mark Levin which is crazy. This is the second video that I got from inside Iran saying that Iran is from Iranian people asking the outside world that they want to be armed. Um I'll put the link to the second this second one in the chat if you guys want to see it. I'll put the quote tweet of uh Mark Levin there. By the way, let me actually share my post on the YouTube chat as well for people to if they want to share their rank. So guys, this person took a huge risk to be able to do what he's doing. Maybe share the screen a little bit for the people who are watching on YouTube. Um, I'll So, if if you look at the video, it's in he's holding a sign saying, "Please arm us."
Um, it's right with the background of the Milot Tower. I specifically asked them to make it easy for people outside of Iran to be able to tell that this is in Iran. And Milot Tower is basically uh, you know, one of the most famous landmarks of inside Iran in Thran. So I'm uh so that's fantastic. So he's saying please arm us. We need to be armed. And then if I keep watching and then he goes to, you know, driving his car again. The mil tower is in the background again. And this time he's holding a a paper that says people of Iran need to be armed.
So >> yeah. So that's that's the second the first video I think I shared to you guys which is a woman who was basically holding a sign saying Armas. So I put a call out on the Persian channel asking people that if they want to send this message to the outside world hold signs that says Armos on it and I will try to amplify their voices. And this is I got these responses and now I'm posting it.
And this was the second one and both of them got reposted by Mark Levin. The first one is now being seen by millions.
It got trending and now the second one is actually on trending on X as well. So it got trending twice. So that's pretty crazy that's happening. The way that the reason why I thought about this is because I saw so many people outside of Iran were talking about that they need to be armed and then I also saw that many people inside of Iran saying that we need to get armed but there was no in between there was no Iranian people confirming to the outside world that they want to be armed. So I thought that we need to basically make this connection so that the world knows that it's not just our theory that they should be armed. they want this and now this is this campaign is getting out there is it's really interesting because the people who sent me these were people who don't have an audience and then by simply doing this and sending it to me and me posting it all of a sudden they have from not having any audience to having like millions of people all of a sudden hearing their voice which is good to see that we have the ability to amplify people Iranian people's voices to such a degree so just wanted to share that with you guys before we go to the topics.
>> All right, I'm not seeing any twos, but I would love to see some twos here. If anybody would like to respond, I'm going to give you a a second to put that two in there. Um, does anybody want to respond? I'll respond myself. This is what I'll say. I'll say that it is important for us to be steady on the trail. uh we may get disheartened because we're not getting the kind of support that we're g that we expect or we're not seeing the progress that we want when we post, when we do the things we do. Uh we may have setbacks in life that make us get out of the rhythm of posting and doing whatever it is we're doing. These things happen. Just come back to it. Just be as steady as you can be. And you never know when a post, an action, a gesture that you do can go viral and help the cause in a great way.
So all these gestures, all your ideas, all these things are very important and I would implore anyone who is at any as small as you think you are, as insignificant as you think you are, I I guarantee you, you are not. And you never know when your effort efforts are going to bear fruit. So I would implore and encourage all of you to share, to like, to express your feelings and your thoughts on this as best you can. And with that, I'm going to go to the twos.
The first two I have in reply is Yuvall.
>> Yuvall, >> sorry, I was muted. I apologize. Yes.
So, uh, good to be here. I mean h just uh regarding the person asking to be armed, would it be a fair assumption that certain elements in Iran are already being armed by friendly secret services? Do you have any information about that?
Yeah, we know that Iranian people have already been armed for a long time now, but mostly for special operations like so the level of arming that you kn need to do for special operations is at a much lower scale than what you need for having an army that could liberate parts of Iran. So we know for example Musad has a lot of agents, Iranian agents inside Iran. We saw we have seen years of activity by Iranians who are part of Musad who have been active inside of Iran and ever since the mass revolution the number of Iranians who want to join the Musad has be become so high. So even before the mass revolution, we have seen so many operations by Iranians who are part of Musad carrying out different operations. But the level of people in Iran who join Musad is so high that the Islamic Republic knows that there's a huge demand for this. So they try to trick the Iranian people by creating fake Mousad applications as a way to catch them, right?
>> Yeah. Mousad had to actually come out and keep advertising that this is the only place that we accept applications like these are the only places where you could apply. But we saw at the beginning of the 12-day war for example there were Iranians inside Iran that were operating drones destroying the rocket launchers.
So, by the way guys, every time we say armed, a lot of people think of guns, but don't let you you have to think mostly drones and then guns. Like drones are I think that's what the main thing we need to focus on, right? You know, we saw Ukrainian soldiers who are very effective at training assess opposition in Syria with drone technology and they're actually a lot easier to learn than people assume. They're getting so user friendly and just with a few months of training with that with zero background military information a lot of people could get good at using them and being effective at them. So it's the barrier to entry is getting lower and lower and lower. So you could so we had MSAD agent Iranians inside Iran right before Israeli attacked on beginning of 12 day war. the drones that were basically already inside Iran got off operated by Iranians and took out the so many of the launchers saved many Israeli lives right but what we're talking about is creating an army that could liberate cities that level of arming that's that is not something that you could hide that would be something that would be obvious that is happening there is and that's what and you need to do it from the border like that's not something that you come in smuggle in from that's something that you need to do on such a mass scale that either has to be done at the borders or at the Persian Gulf. And I think like it would be actually better to be done at the Persian Gulf because the Americans are there and you don't have to deal with the cessations. But does that answer your question?
Yeah, pretty much. I was hoping there is some information about the kind of army that you were referring to, but apparently there is no solid information about that. So that's a bit disappointing, but let's hope. We can only hope.
So we have two information regarding some two other information is that we we have heard about this attempt to armed Kurdish Iraqi groups separatist groups to by United States and Israel and that plan was cancelled. There are two different reasons have been given to us.
One by President Trump and one by the former IDF head of IDAF head of IDF intelligence inside Israel. Uh, President Trump said that the Kurdish separatists, they kept the guns to themselves and they stole it. But the former uh, IDF intelligence has said that plan was cancelled because Erdoggon disagreed with it because he didn't want to arm the Kurdish groups. I'm glad that that plan was canceled because a lot of Iranian people would have turned against it because the Iranian people are justifiably very much against any separatist groups including Kurdish Iranians. Kurdish Iranians are very much against the separatist groups as well.
So that's one other information. Another information is Ted Cruz asked Marco Rubio in the I think it was a Senate hearing if I'm remembered correctly. Uh in a Senate hearing he asked Marco Rubio whether there's the United States is arming um Iranians and Marco Rubio said he's not a aware of any attempts to arm the Iranian people at least not by United States. he said. So basically he might he might have suggested that maybe Israel is doing this. But as bad as that attempt to get weapons inside Iran through SE Kurdish separatist group, as bad as that was, at least it shows a willingness by the Americans and Israelis to arm the Iranian people. So that's the silver lining. So it's not like this out.
>> I I would only logically guess because they don't tell us everything, do they?
I would only logically guess that if Israel is indeed bent on regime change, it's also taking some operations in arming in to arm on a large scale opposition to the regime. But that's just logic, but regrettably I don't have any evidence for this.
>> I hope so. I hope so.
>> Okay. Great to have you here by the way.
>> Hey, it's been a while. Yeah.
>> Yes. I would also add that we would not want everyone to know that we're getting guns in there because that would just send the IRGC to hunt them down. You can't just say, "Oh, yes, they these people specifically are arming these people over here." That would just send the RGC to go get them. So, we would want that to be secret because we don't have what is known well throughout history as a need to know. The people that need to know where these guns are, probably the people getting them. We do have signals Armen said, but I think that's important. And next to respond on this topic is Richard.
Richard.
Richard.
Sorry about that. Can you hear me?
>> Yes.
>> Yes.
>> Okay. Yeah. I just wanted to briefly mention um you know just in terms of the US history of arming opposition groups and and working um you know to overthrow regimes that uh admission of the fiasco with the Iraqi Kurdish separatists and and the stealing of the guns whatever that was uh is extremely unusual historically because when they do arm these groups they never really make it public. They never admit to it. There's a reason they wanted this to be public.
Now, it could just be for leverage possibly in the discussions, but there could be other reasons why they want it to be public. I think it's worth noting that that's just unusual historically.
>> Interesting. Interesting point.
Yeah. It might be just mind games. It might just like, oh yeah, yeah, you're right. It might just be it might be a distraction tactic. Look over here, not over there. Yeah.
Trump is very very good at that. He's probably the best.
>> Good point. Okay.
>> All right. Uh, next on this topic would be Raham. And Jeff would close us out. I I believe you've all wanted like another quick question at the end. We're going to make that one very quick, but Raham would be next. I believe he's new.
Welcome here. Like I haven't seen him before, but uh welcome.
>> Yeah.
>> Hey Arman, it's my page of s coaching.
I've been hounding you on for a while.
>> Oh, hey. Hello. Nice to see you here.
>> Hey, man. Thank you. Yeah, it's my it's my pleasure to be here. Thank you so much for everything you've been doing.
And uh yeah, I think this room is going to be huge. And the one thing that I wanted to just say is I kept looking on Instagram to see if this has got much traction and it hasn't had much traction. I think it might be a good idea to just connect this to people that have bigger pages. Like my I only have like 7,000 people on my page. It's not that many. I've been I'm trying to get it out there as much as possible. But yeah, that was kind of just my my two cents because I know it's blowing up on Twitter, but uh Instagram's a different world and there are a lot of different people on there.
>> Yeah, it's is I'm I'm worried that Instagram would just ban my my account if I talk about arming people.
>> Yeah, I have I I kind of have that feeling on the back of my head, too.
>> Yeah, welcome. Okay. Yeah, >> that's cool. Well, thank you for everything you're doing, man. Appreciate it.
>> Thank you. Thank you. By the way, Raham, great to have you here. Just your audio is a bit bad. If you could like fix the sketchy, >> yeah, it's kind of like weird.
>> No, it's not. But yeah, just >> Okay. Thank you. Thank you so much. Glad to have you here.
>> Thank you, sir.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Thanks. Happy to be here.
>> All right. With that, uh, we gonna go on to Jeff. We have a last minute edition, but I want to go to Jeff uh very quickly because he will be I think we had Rebecca as well if I I saw it too. Maybe I Yeah, >> I'm very sorry if I missed you, Rebecca.
I will add you also. So, Rebecca, soap box and I believe you've all had a quick question.
>> Oh my god. Let me let me fix let me fix this. Okay. All right. Go on. I fixed the audio.
Okay. Jeffrey wants Rebecca to go first.
Rebecca.
Rebecca.
Rebecca.
>> Okay, Jeffrey, you go first then.
>> All right. I try.
Yeah. So, I mean, >> no, Jeff, you go first then.
>> You want to go? Let Let Reer go.
>> No, I want to hear you. I'm kind of I'm kind of curious because I feel like you want to check what my version is and now I'm going to check your version first.
>> Okay. Just Jeffrey just go ahead.
>> It's no worries. There's no there's no uh conflict there. So when you think about as someone who kind of developed one of the main approaches towards tracking material support in direct that's designed to support Iranian resistance.
You can I'll give you kind of a frame or present a framework that might help in how you might think about it. One is so the the toe the table of organization equipment of stuff you'd want to give to some you know units at a particular level. The other one is how you would actually disperse it and the other one is training and how you would where that training would occur and what defines that training. So like as far as like toe you're talking about the amount of the cost, weight and size of providing enough track two material support to field a company of lawful unconventional fighters is roughly 48,000 lbs 37 pallets which fits on either two C130Js or one C17 and it cost a little bit over a million dollars. That's enough to support a company of lawful unconventional fighters in the field for a month. That's like small arms and ammunition and body armor and communications and drones and all this other stuff. I don't want to go through the whole list, take forever. The other place, so the next one is how do you get it in there? So there's a couple of and that kind of is tied to how you might approach training. Armen has one approach which is carve out a safe spot say in southern Iran near Bonder Abas if I remember correctly or take a city and train people there. There are positives and negatives to that. The positives are you have people right on the ground that are ready to go and it gives a place potentially for people to run to as like a green zone or safety zone from say traditional security concerns or threats to some degree. The negatives are you're going to be inside moola occupied Iran and the very same threats that would have met our tier one operators if they were sent in to go get the you know the highly terranium is also going to be facing those people. In other words, the RGC remnants are going to rain down everything on that city. So the uh the second approach would be to train people outside of Iran. That's the one me and others push for, which is to find roughly about 20,000 males that are not married without a family between the ages of 18 and 35 in the United States and Canada amongst the United States and Canadian diaspora.
Train them roughly between 8 months and 87 weeks depending on how much time you want. So they would be very highly trained unconventional fighters and then break them down into eight manhunter killer teams organized uh amongst 156 companies dispersed on specific cities that they are that their training would specifically focus on. So they would actively hunt down and slaughter IRGC and besieg executioner elements and or leadership. So, as far as like how do you get the stuff in, right? So, you can take ground routes, there's issues with that, you know, like Iran's topography is very rugged. The IRGC and besiege monitor things, so might have some issues getting in there that said they also have Boris Porters or Pors Borders and you know, we tried that with some other groups. There's that issue. You might airdrop it. That said, if you're airdropping enough to anus to field a company of lawful conventional fighters, you know, you're that landing zone even at just like optimal parachute or disperse height is going to be at least 2 kilometers wide and that's going to be an issue to make sure good guys get it.
as far as like arming the Iranian people, that is something now being more seriously looked at because even though that's not the best option, it's because the besiege and IRGC remnants are brutalizing Iranian citizens. And our goal is not only to eliminate the threat posed by the Müller regime remnants now andor IRGC and also liberate Iran. It's to do so in a manner that cost the Iranian people the least amount of blood because they've already sacrificed so much. I will say this to any Iranians that are listening. I regardless I know that the IRGC remnants has opened up their the internet on the filteret as a means to try and dis dishearten you. I promise you no matter what happens at the national level. The result of the bravery and galliantry of Iranian resistance and citizens in January is illustrated in no uncertain detail that there is no connection between the Müller regime that illegally occupies Iran and the Iranian people and the free people of the worlds absolutely love you and are with you no matter what happens at the national level. You will never be alone again.
All right. I wanted to say a quick word for anyone that came in later. Uh we try to remember that because of echoes, we would like everyone to have their microphones muted while any of the speakers are speaking. It's very important that you come in with your mic muted and keep it muted. Remember, one's for topics in the chat with the topic, twos for a response on this. I know Joseph was having a little trouble, so I'm trying to be cognizance of his adjustments. and anyone else that has come to the open open discussion new and with that we go to Rebecca.
>> All right. So I'm just going to touch again the curts. It's come it comes like being brought up but I do want to touch on it first. I don't know why but like just an question like why insist on Iraqi Kurds when it's like why not have them have Kurdistan? You know what I'm saying in Iraq? It's not Iran, it's in Iraq. It's like who cares about Iraq?
Why fight for it? And the second thing is like I understand like the separatist thing but think even in Syria when it comes to the Rojava region they are part of Syria because like they had the agreements and they signed the agreements and now they're part of the of the Syrian government and it it just doesn't work like in that way in I just feel like it's wrong to close up doors or ways to get weaponry to get fighters to get um and it's not just the Kurds like with the Kurds You have also like the lurs if I'm not how it's called.
It's some you know the Iranian Kurds mix the ones and that's what I have to say like the Kurds are not a monolith and I wouldn't be so worried about the separatists as well especially after talking to the Kurds and stuff like that. And the other thing is that I find interesting is that there are also the Azeris which I know the Azeris had been leaving at least on the border. The Azeris had been leaving SIM cards so that the Azeris could get go to the border and get the SIM card so that they would have internet during that time.
And I don't know why like this is not mentioned like the Azeri side. And the other thing to take into account is is there a chance that if you have a a time where the either the Pakis or the Turks could take over some areas of Iran, is that a possibility? Because if you take there are some Do you think it's possible? Because I've been thinking of it like there are some cities inside of Iran that are critical for Turkey.
for example. So they might want to try to have influence there. Is that something that is taken into account? Is it realistic at all? And I wouldn't worry about the Kurds that much. I don't think they can. And there I don't think there is a reason that they would separate from Iran without significant support from the United States.
>> So >> may I add to this?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. I think go sk and then I'll respond then after that. Okay, go ahead sketch and then I'll respond.
>> Uh there was some news report of factions within Iraq. It might have been the Kurds or like turn giving back their weapons back to Iran Iraq and getting away from Iran and the IRGC. I would just also like to Armen to answer on this. I think he has more insight on this and I didn't want to go to any I know there's a lot of responses but I think it's very important to hear Armen on this because he's going to have a lot of insight. Wait, what's the question again? Let me write it down.
>> Go ahead, Rebecca. No, wait. Sketch.
>> Well, there are several.
>> Okay, sketch first.
>> I didn't.
>> Yeah, >> my question was about recent reports that factions that were in support of the IRGC had turned back to Iraq and turned themselves in. It was pretty significant news report about like militias turning their back on the IRGC.
Perhaps >> that's a separate talk topic. That's the That's Iraqi that has separate.
>> Yeah. No, no, not sep Iraqi Shia militias turning claiming that they're going to hand over they're going to merge with the Iraq army, right?
>> That's that was my question. So, they're not Kurds. Thank you.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> They're not Kurdish separatist. Okay.
Thank you.
>> Yeah. So, let me now respond to the points that Rebecca brought up. So, first of all, like let me start with the last one first. Like, yeah. If Turkey or any Azar if anybody wants to if any outside force that is not Iranian wants to come in and have influence or take over any cities within the borders of Iran it's the best way to unify the entire Iranian nation against them right so I mean what is first of all they would that what would that achieve that would cause a lot more hostility and war for decades and decades after this, right?
The Islamic Republic would love that. If I don't know if we're talking about before the Islamic Republic falls or after the Islamic Republic falls. If we're talking about before the Islamic Republic falls, this is the best gift to the Islamic Republic that you could give because it would distract from liberating Iran and it will make the Iranian people focus on protecting their border integrity. It will be the best thing for the Islamic Republic to distract for from their liberation process. The Iranian people care about their border integrity with Iran more than anything else. And I think uh Jewish people should understand this more than anyone else. Right? Because for the Iranian people, their national identity is tied to the land. It's not like Iran is not just a concept. It's Iran is the land and your personal identity is tied to the soil itself. And I think Jewish people for after the last 2,000 years know exactly how that feels that like and what that means because I think most of the world doesn't understand that. I think Jewish people understand that. So the Iranian soil is cons is seen as the your as your body you know like it's part of your body.
It's part of your identity. Anybody who wants to come and violate the border integrity of Iran will be considered enemy a bigger enemy more than the Islamic Republic.
And people there will be even people who might put that put aside the fight against the Islamic Republic to focus on this just like they did just like they did in the Iran Iraq war. Many Iranian people who were against the Islamic Republic joined the war with the Islamic Republic against Saddam because Saddam wanted to take parts of Iran. And at that point it didn't matter who's in charge. Not only that, Prince Raza Pathi offered to come serve even when the Islamic Republic was in power as a fighter jet pilot against Saddam to defend the borders of Iran because that's how Iranian people express their patriotism to defend the borders if anybody wants to challenge the border integrity. Right? And I don't think that by the way that also is really bad for Israel because if we >> I'm not talking about Israel. I'm talking about Turkey because Turkey has this dream of an Ottoman Empire now.
>> Like I'm against Turkey.
>> Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I understand. I understand this. But when I when I say it's bad for Turkey, it's not necessarily a response to everything you're saying. I never suggested that you're saying Israel, right? So I wasn't like I'm not responding against your points. I'm just adding the points that comes to my mind while I'm saying this, right? I'm just adding my points. So, don't like but if I bring a point, don't think like this is like an attack on you, Rebecca. Like, we're I consider me and you to be on the same side of of this fight, right? Like when I discuss this topic, I try to >> I just try to make it a complete list of points that I want to bring up. So I just want to remind people like Israelis or who are watching this that if we support SEP the se separatist groups before the Islamic Republic falls that's in the benefit of the Islamic Republic and obviously be against the Israel in that and if we do it after it's in the best interest of Israel to have stability like we know Israel doesn't start wars Israel ends wars Israel is an wants peace it doesn't want war and causing internal war between I don't know 90 million Iranians and the Turks and the Kurds in the region after the fall of the Islamic Republic will cause decades of chaos and the best breeding ground for terrorist groups in the region. So obviously that's not good for for Israel.
>> Here's the like I mean I'm just saying that because it's happening in Syria and it's not something we have any control over.
>> I'm getting to that. I'm getting to that like in the list of things that I'm going to get to. Right. So when it comes to Syria and Iraq, I actually completely understand separatism of Kurdish movements in Syria and Iraq. Okay. But there's there's an understanding there, but there's also a challenge. Okay? So see like the Kurdish identity is part of the Iranian identity. Like all the Kurdish areas on the map used to be part of the Iranian Empire, right? So that's why the Kurdish Iranians feel at home.
They they see Iran as their home. But the Kurdish people in Iraq, the Kurdish people of in Syria, their identity doesn't match the nation state of Iraq.
It doesn't match the nation state of Syria. It's artificial. It it doesn't feel natural. They don't feel like they belong there. Their Kurdish identity is separate from that national identity.
The Kurdish identity in Iran is not separate from Iran because their history has been is tied to Iran for many many many thousands of years. Right? So, this is why I completely understand a separatist Kurdish movement in Iraq and in Syria. And I'm technically not against it if it's I mean, I'm not I'm not for it either because I don't want to basically be challenging other count's nation state. But at least I understand where it's coming from. But here's the problem. the free Kurdistan movement in Iraq, the free Kurdistan movement in Syria, and the free Kurdistan movement in Turkey. They all believe in a free Kurdistan map that includes territory of my country. Like, if you look at all of them, look at the pins that they put on their clothes.
Look at the signs that they put. The Kurdish separatist movements in Iraq, in Syria, and Turkey, they offer you a map of what a free Kurdistan looks like. and parts of Iran is included in that. And that's why they say like, "Oh, okay. In Iraq, fine. You keep it in Iraq. I'm Iranian. None of my business. Keep it in." But they don't want to keep it in Iraq. They don't want to keep it in Syria. They don't want to keep it in Turkey because their maps suggest that they also want think parts of Iran is the this Kurdistan country. By the way, I I also think the Curistan as a nation state is as delusional as Palestine as a nation state. people a lot of some some people see free quarteran as the same movement like similar to Israel I think it's not at all uh the same Israel first of all has thousands of years of identity as a separate entity in this region Kurdistan was part of the Iranian empire forever and it wasn't like a it wasn't like a colony it was and it was like a fundamental part of the Iranian empire >> okay Okay. Okay. Armen mean Armen. I'm gonna say something right now real quick. It's super important.
>> She would not in >> Armen. No, no, no. Really, I need to say it because you if you're speaking to a Middle Eastern crowd, right, in general right now, it sounds like you're going to invade when you get in Iran, you're going to invade Turkey. So, I'm just saying that because it possible just Rebecca, Rebecca, I love you, but is it possible for you to put a two in the chat like everyone else and then bring this up like everyone else does? Like, is it possible that we could do that? Because I like >> Okay.
>> Is that okay? Like, I'm I don't want to be mean or anything. I love you and I love everything you do, but it's just really hard that to get interrupted. I hope I don't make you upset by saying that, but let me >> No, I'm not upset. I'm just I'm just It just like >> just wait for just wait for me. Okay.
Just wait for me and then you could say that and I will respond to that. Okay.
>> I will respond to that. Okay.
>> Okay.
>> So, but let me actually now that you said it, let me just say invade.
>> Okay. Invade the other parts. Okay.
>> Okay. Yeah. All right. What I was saying? Okay. So, see this is the how I lose the my chain of thought. I keep saying that we need to respect the border integrity of Iran. This means that we want the borders as they are. We don't want to expand the borders. We want to keep the borders as they are. We don't want them to anything to be taken away from Iran. We don't want anything to be added to Iran.
>> When we say border integrity, it means the current borders. Okay? So expanding those borders also violates the border integrities of other countries. We are very focused on asking other countries not to violate our border integrity.
That requires us not to violate their border integrity because we will be it would be the Iranian people who want to fight for the border integrity of their country. They know that if they violate if they suggest that they want to violate other count's border integrity, it would harm them because then they would want to do the same thing to you.
So the best way to defend other Iran's border integrity is to respect other countries border integrity. So that's why I don't think anybody should worry about us going in. And also obviously the Iranian people follow Princes of Pali. Princes of Pal's entire one of his fundamental points that he constantly advocates is that we are going to be friendly with other countries in their neighborhood. We're going to have a good relationship with everybody especially people who are our neighbors. So obviously given that we support princes of Palvi, we are not interested at all in making enemies of like we want we we're tired of chaos and war. Like I don't think we get peace by starting a war with your neighbors. We want stability. We want Iran to stop fighting with the world. Like the Iranian people, here's here's how you know the Iranian people don't want to fight with Iraq, with Pakistan, with Turkey because we're so fucking tired at being at war with the fuck like the Islamic Republic has made it seem like the Iran is at war with every country on earth. We our message is that we want to have bring have peace with every country on earth unless they have fight they want to fight against us. So we're doing the opposite. So no, we're not gonna we're not gonna fight anybody, right? One, let me just make this last point and then we'll move on because Yeah. So like with regards to Azeri, actually the Azeri separatist groups is something that we talk about a lot at least on my Persian channel and it actually shows how chaotic all of this is, right? So the separatist Azeri groups that want to take parts of Iran and make it their own Azar Bayan, either the new Azarbaijan country or merge it with Azar Bayan country. If you look at the areas that they want, there's a lot of overlap with the parts that Cordistan sees as a free Cordan, which is actually another indication of how bloody and chaotic this is going to be because first of all, the Kurdish separatist group have killed more Kurdish separatist groups than any other per people, right? They kill each other more than they kill other people and they also at war with the Azeri people. So if Iran ever gets we have secenationist movements, you know, the separatist movements having any success, you're going to see not just Iran versus these Kurdish separatist groups. You're going to see Azeris killing Ks killing Azeris Ks killing Ks Aaris killing Azeris. It's going to be a nightmare. It's going to be a forever war in the region. Anyways, Rebecca, you wanted to respond to what I'm just saying quickly because I see there's so many other twos in it.
>> I'm just Okay. So Okay. So there is the what you're saying is true, but it's not always how the Middle East works. So what I'm saying is like, you know, like we Israelis, we want peace. We want like uh leave us alone, we're going to leave you alone kind of world, but it just doesn't work this way. In reality, Turkey had entered Syria. In reality, Turkey has delusions about bringing back the Ottoman Empire. It's reality. And it comes like they you can see their involvement and they're trying to get involved more and more in Iraq as well.
So I'm just saying like you know it's something that just because you don't like just because you are saying that it doesn't mean that it's both goes both ways. Second in the Middle East and this is something I can tell you like from experience from the Israeli side we say we want peace. We will say we want regional economic cooperation. When the Arabs translate it in their minds they think that okay economic cooperation means that Israel wants to take over.
Like this is literally how they think.
So a lot of Middle Easterns when they hear Iranians talking about like the borders and yet a lot of times like there is no a clear explanation of what exactly it means. A lot of times they do hear okay they want to okay they're going to want to have the Afghani areas back. They're going to want to have Azarban back. They're going to want to have Kurdistan which I'm talking about here is northern Iraq. The other thing is that I also want to say I talked about the Azeris not as like the Azer separatist groups. I'm talking about the as in smuggling route as in more people that could fight they have a border and I know that if there were seams that were g like you know that were passed through the border other things probably go as well that's the only thing I meant.
>> Let me just respond to this because we need to get to the other people as well.
Okay. So, first of all, regarding this is how the Middle East works and how what they think when they hear something. Trust me, I know how the Middle East works. I've been I lived um most of my life in the Middle East and I spent most of my life debating people in the Middle East. All of these people from all of these groups, I have been debating them for many, many years. I talked to them directly and I listen to them directly and I have years of basically arguing against them, arguing for them, them changing their minds. the some of the very people that you're talking about I managed to successfully change their mind and bring them to our side. I have been threatened by people like this. I have been so I know exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to the Middle East. Okay. And also some of the the stuff that you're saying are true and it doesn't negate anything I said like it actually confirms what I'm saying as well regarding the Turkey's Ottoman Empire ambitions. That's exactly confirms everything I'm saying. Like when you say like this, I don't know if that was I mean I think we're in agreement. I know Turkey has that ambition and this is what the Iranian people know to be very have their guards up when it comes to any Turkish influence around the the Turkish speaking areas of Iran. This is why the Iranian people are very aware of the Ottoman Empire, Ottoman ambitions, expansionist ideas of the Turkish government and that's exactly what they have their guards up. So this is actually confirms a lot of what I'm saying. So there's no ne there's no contradiction there. And also when it comes to when you say this, they hear that. When you say this, they hear that they want to come and take over. Yeah, I know that as well. And to be fair, actually, Rebecca, to your point, there are some Iranians who do want to expand Iran's borders, right? Uh who think that their goal is to go back to the Sassanade map of Iran and you know, they're called panranians and stuff like that. And they do exist and they are a concern and they actually make us look bad. But to be fair, Princess of Palvi is against all of that and the vast majority of the Iranian people support Princess of Palie. It's true that some of the language that we use might concern some people, but the best way we could the only way that we could address it is to tell them, well, no, like we could explain why it's wrong and they might not listen to that because they have their mind set up in the way that you say that they have mind have their mind set up, but all we could do is explain and all we could do is try to advertise against those views. There's nothing else we could do other than that. And you might say it would not work, but I've seen it work on other people. I've seen it. I've seen I've talked to I actually convinced some separatist Kurdish people to stop being separatist Kurdish. So I've also experienced with that. Anyways, let's move on to other people.
>> Thank you Rebecca. That was really interesting. But yeah, sorry sketch.
Sorry. Go ahead Sketch.
>> I think this is an important deep topic.
I agree. This is very interesting. Next up we have Soapbox because I'm going to I'm going to make a little caveat. We're talking about arming civilians and soak has an update about YGC talking about arming civilians on TV. Is this is can I put this together so we don't have a separate topic or would this be better separate?
>> You're the boss sketch.
>> All right, soap box. I'm going to throw you in here so we can move on to other topics and just throw this in here. So go ahead. Talk to us about the arming of civilians from the IRGC side.
He's saying in the chat mic won't open.
Try it again. Have you g it permission?
>> All right.
I I'm not I'm only a mod as far as >> No, no, no. I'm I'm talking to soap.
Give permission to your browser to have access to your microphone at the next to the URL. There should be if you click on it. Let me see if Soap works.
Soap has try it. Okay, let's go to someone else and you could keep trying.
Give your browser permission to use the microphone and then it should work. But yeah.
>> All right, I'm going to move on to Yuval who had a quick reply on this subject.
Yes, regarding uh regarding arming arming civilians, there are some some rumors there or there was some news about the Artesh clashing with IRGC and I was wondering whether you can see a scenario in which the Artesh gains a little bit of ground that can serve as a kind of a bridge head through which arms can then be supplied or is that too much of a fantasy and those rumors are not that correct?
So I've heard those rumors. It has never been confirmed that has happened. The Artesh is defunded by the Islamic Republic every sing more every single year in favor of IRGC.
The Islamic Republic has always been suspicious of the Artesh for doing a coup. That's why their access to weapons is always like limited and at a need to know basis. And it's the so I don't know how much the artes would be able to so here's another thing the artes leaders are basically IRGC leaders so if there's anything to so most of the artish leaders have been removed the ones that were actually there based on merit the Islamic Republic removed them because they're they were afraid of them being responsible for the coup and they replaced them with loyal IRGC people. So there's not there's very little hope from their leader. Someone's mic is open. There's very little hope from their leaders actually doing anything meaningful in support of the people. But within the body there's hope that there within the body of the artish there are a lot of people that might be on the side of the people. But the Iranian people were hoping there's a lot of disappointment that the artish hasn't done anything meaningful or anything at all anything that we have seen in support of the Iranian people. That might be because they're not as interested in joining the people or might be because they want to but the regime has to de took away their arms and they don't just have access to them to be able to do anything. Some people might s suggest maybe the will join the Iranian people only at the very last minute when the Islamic Republic is collapsing. Princess of Palvi at some point put out a post there to show his disappointment with the people of Aresh for not coming in to the aid of the Iranian people. At least that's my interpretation of that post.
Other people might have interpreted differently, but these are all the points you've already did. I answer your question.
>> Yes, you did. Thanks.
>> Thank you. Okay. All right.
All right. Next to reply we have Jeff.
>> Jeff.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Turn off the screen.
I don't know what that does. So there's a lot of good points and soap brought up a good point with regards to arming people. A lot of good points are made.
So first it's understandable that Iranian people don't want to be at at war because they've had to suffer it.
Again, there's a reason I'm ref I'm I'm re-referencing this in regards to Turkey and and the idea of arming and all that.
The results of January's protest shows there's no connection between the regime remnants and the Iranian people. And that disconnect shows between say a regime that claims to be operating at the national level and the people of an area.
Right? So when you think about now keeping that in mind that framework in mind when you think about neo ottomanism try saying that three times fast with regards to Turkey that's very much tied to the AK and Erdogan and it very much centers around things like a mix of Turkish nationalism and political Islam Sunni solidarity protector of the alma and all this other stuff right and it very much is a direct break from the chemist ke I always mispronounced that secularism and western democracy that was established after the first world war with Prince Turk out of Turk you've seen operationalized elements of that with support of the Muslim Brotherhood linked groups during the Arab nightmare it was in the spring military interventions in Syria which was brought up with regards to operations against ISIS and the YPG Libya all these other things domestically you see things like turning the Haga Sophia back into a mosque.
Erdogan has been criticized by critics like acting like a modern sultan, right?
So where is the Kurds? The Kurds fit awkwardly in this because in Ottoman times Kurd had autonomy under the empire. Today's version prioritizes Turkish security and Sunni Turkish influence. All those other geopolitical things like Turkey wants oil revenue and northern Iraq where Iraqi Kurds are at, which is why they were doing stupid shit a couple years ago.
So what's how's this play out geopolitically particularly when it comes to Syria? It's amazing you guys brought all this up.
Turkey placed itself under Erd well as a gate as the controller of the Syrian refugee crisis and they used that Turkey used that as a bargaining chip to the EU by saying well they're going to control the flow of illegal immigration from Syria right and so Erdogan has repeatedly threatened to open the gates if he wanted to pressure on funds Syrian policy eastern Mediterranean stuff all this other stuff it what's the overall what's the how do I sum this up so Turkeykey's policies towards Kurds and its regional ambitions are very much rooted in part in secure there are some security affairs there PKK YPG historic nation building and it's also very much underwritten by a desire for a greater greater influence under the opaces of being the protector of the omen a mix of Sunni Islam and nationalism. Much of that indeed supported by illegal immigration into Turkey from north, help me out, Armen, northwest, right, where you had a lot of insecurity inflows into Turkey over the past decadeish that's changing some of the domestic politics in Turkey. So, I mean, it's amazing how that question covers so many topics that organizationally, operationally apply to say things like how to best assist the Iranian people.
I'll close with this. Iranian because of what happened in January. I can say with the highest degree of human certainty I possess. While I very much observe, appreciate and respect from an external perspective the weary the war weariness Iranians suffer.
You are not you will no longer be at war with the world because the world knows you are not the Müller regime.
>> My name is Armen Navi. I'm an Iranian political analyst with decades of experience fighting the Islamic regime inside and outside of Iran. Make sure you follow me for more and also make sure you join our discussion group. I'm there almost every single day. Come talk to me there and the rest of the people there in our group calls. It's a great place to meet and talk to people who like talking about politics. The link is in the description and or in the bio.
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