Civic Education Show with Yusupha Bojang, Chief Civic Education Officer (NCCE) and Demba Jallow

Added: 2026-05-24

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[00:02:54]>> H welcome back. Uh welcome back to the showing offline registration numbers. I was just telling um both gentlemen where we are. we are around 170 and we have also said the different uh regions and it's important to say but this is not data data because obviously but they keep record of every registration. So based on that I think we around the 174,000 around that with different regions but I think BAC naturally is leading in in the registration numbers west coast west coast yeah west coast [laughter] you have to be specific right? Yes, these are but you are saying something regarding that database level.

[00:04:22]>> Yeah.

[00:04:23]>> New registration operator. Of course um there will be double registration from our last uh stakeholder engagement forum.

[00:04:30]>> Yes. Over 2,000 sorry 2,000 >> 700 plus. Yeah.

[00:04:36]>> Yeah. Did double registration.

[00:04:38]>> And obviously all doubles for delete from the system. Mhm.

[00:04:45]>> Yes. From the field number of people.

[00:04:53]Yeah.

[00:04:57]Okay. This number we have the record and all that. But remember this data also go through a process. Yeah.

[00:05:09]>> After that also we all know the revising courts. Mhm.

[00:05:19]Sorry.

[00:05:23]So when we come >> the importance of party agents having their records >> because Peace and peaceful discuss the independence of the um the referee is very important but also confidence in They were not taking records. They were not doing things.

[00:06:32]Blame on issues when it comes to confidence level of the are doing everything possible to keep records and make sure prepare but also just to also keep their records. Why is that important?

[00:06:50]>> Yeah.

[00:06:53]Of course, I want to appreciate the political parties that are doing this and this is something commendable because some of them are very much active on the ground. Yeah.

[00:07:11]almost up to the end >> and the fact that also they keeping real time data to make sure that every register I think that is encouraging because So this time around take things for granted from the go right now 162 >> 157,000 even going by the first week.

[00:08:12]So around 200,000 over 2,000.

[00:08:34]>> Yeah. Double registration.

[00:08:40]So eventually for me the fact that political parties are accompanying the process they are taking information for me that is the Revising and revising revising court you have opportunity to appeal even to the high court. So that idea of revising not necessary.

[00:09:33]So it is the best opportunity and revising court in terms of individuals.

[00:09:59]You also have opportunity to go to the revising court you both for complain. So complain.

[00:10:54]So coming.

[00:10:58]So I make clean all this double Maybe But even individuals we can also do that.

[00:12:10]But then also 14 days within days.

[00:12:58]satisfy the high courts are not finalized.

[00:13:17]stakeholder about 2,700 registrations who supervises those processes because for example one of the partners stakeholders now election column Registration A5ist in the system. How does that process go?

[00:14:06]Because everything for political parties in fact the primary function of a political party is to participate >> in elections and electoral activities.

[00:14:28]Of course there are other functions.

[00:14:30]>> Yeah.

[00:14:30]>> But these are the primary functions. So um with regards to double registration >> deleting k at the database level >> our central database because yeah database Mhm.

[00:15:18]100 times the moment they run it into jail. But um um just to take you a bit back >> political parties because they are key stakeholders in the electoral process.

[00:15:48]>> Okay. So even >> all parties were >> from this time to this time registration was clearly spelled out and they were informed >> and they were invited also to come and observe >> the process.

[00:16:11]>> Yeah.

[00:16:12]is their right and also their responsibility because as much as you share part of the responsibility even your staff >> so it become also part of your responsibility. Now to your question.

[00:16:38]>> Um um even at the regional offices some of the regional office not all. Yeah.

[00:16:43]>> But some of the regional offices you go there you have agents they are seated at the office there not even with the team agent only at the team teams registration team but go and find out you will realize that some of the regional offices not all agents are seated there. Mhm.

[00:17:02]>> Is the same at the IC level, headquarters level, all over the process. Mhm.

[00:17:08]>> The parties are free to to to observe and to verify and seek any information they feel.

[00:17:23]>> So because I see I mean we have nothing to hide >> nothing absolutely everything is clear and transparent.

[00:17:32]People can make up their own stories or form their own opinions which is definitely respected.

[00:17:40]>> But The job of the referee is to be transparent.

[00:18:03]So paste they have 10 days they will paste every name.

[00:18:31]centers center >> um you have 730 registration centers >> across the country >> and at each registration center >> in all the regions in all registration centers but after cleaning like at the database level you know definitely registration at that time a provisional list >> yes >> we've done some cleaning that is all they are not part of it legally they are qualified to do that.

[00:19:23]It's a crime. So compromised.

[00:19:28]>> So once we will be able then provisional list print out >> is a provisional list because if you looked at section 27 of the election act.

[00:19:40]>> Yeah.

[00:19:42]Soon after the registration is concluded, >> the chief justice s on the advice of the commission that is the independent electoral commission >> appoint first class magistrates to preside over the revising courts in all the administrative regions of this country.

[00:20:00]>> Mhm.

[00:20:02]So >> okay >> then revising revising courting within a period of 10 days.

[00:20:22]>> Mh.

[00:20:23]>> But for you to go to the revising that is to go and uh lay your complaint.

[00:20:28]>> Yeah.

[00:20:29]>> Within a period of 14 days. 14 days.

[00:20:31]>> 14 days.

[00:20:32]>> Mhm.

[00:20:33]>> Okay.

[00:20:36]You go to the IC office, >> regional office.

[00:20:41]>> Yeah.

[00:20:41]>> The area where you are.

[00:20:43]>> Mhm.

[00:20:44]>> Then you go and do your complaint chief justice magistrate appoint. Yeah.

[00:20:51]>> These magistrates will work with the IEC offices.

[00:20:56]>> That is in every region we have an office there. So they will be working with those staff there. So once you go and fill that form whether you want correction you know revising is not only about going to say people only looked at that aspect.

[00:21:17]No correct revising court.

[00:21:29]>> You know there the revising court will now order for correction >> that is allowed correct.

[00:21:46]You intend to press A press. It's possible. It's a human being >> doing it.

[00:21:56]>> Okay.

[00:22:05]Yes.

[00:22:10]Prove to the court and the pro court rule in your favor. That is why this is a provisional list.

[00:22:20]>> Then IC will have to come back.

[00:22:25]>> But in that instance, IC will still register you because now you have challenged decision.

[00:22:33]>> Yeah.

[00:22:34]>> And you have proved beyond reasonable doubt and the court has ruled in your favor. So therefore I will have to register.

[00:22:41]>> Register. So it's not only going to object >> either he is not of age >> that is 18 years I do all in fact I have evidence that they are not authentic they areoever it's possible >> it's possible you You can also go to court document may use among authentic proof once you are able to do this again the court rules in your favor IC have to go back >> and expunge um that is to remove them uh name from the voter list. Wow.

[00:23:35]>> So this is why I'm saying the final the final release will come after the revising.

[00:23:42]>> This is why it can be more it can be less.

[00:23:45]>> It will depend on the revising code.

[00:23:50]Even at the revising courting has a right still now to go to the high court and challenge the decision of the revising >> revising court.

[00:24:12]>> So you see it's a process Even if you are able to prove it, >> that person will be corrected will be Gambian.

[00:24:47]For example, So that is very important in Yeah, let's say negative perception.

[00:25:57]process from the go. key stakeholders of the election.

[00:26:13]Then you have nobody to blame.

[00:26:26]you don't have anybody to blame. So we have to definitely appreciate them.

[00:26:32]>> So it's very important the election act section 25.

[00:27:15]So any irregularities, any So all options are available.

[00:27:54]So all those opportunities are there and revising for me >> because let's say Mhm.

[00:28:02]after the 14 days 14 days period last 2021 political party and even last 2021 election election degree so it's an old law but political party somehow they feel about the timeline >> when actually it is clearly stated in the law. Mhm.

[00:28:36]>> So again, right now we have a new law 2025 election act follow. Yeah. Mhm.

[00:29:28]The electoral officer.

[00:29:42]election all the various forms relevant forms for every stage that is what you're going to use now to initiate the process.

[00:29:56]So once at the end of the day all the details is objecting.

[00:30:36]Wow.

[00:30:55]notific.

[00:30:57]At least within 5 days within this period up to the end.

[00:31:31]process.

[00:31:36]Another window of opportunity offic.

[00:31:55]>> Yes. So from from there exactly it depends for reject >> even though we are part of the people processing it sometimes as defendants >> because any decision make >> it's your responsibility to make sure you defend that decision >> so um processing clear >> and what level of interesting I mean you cannot wait to be spoon understand because even this registration to that Mhm. And we will also announce you can go to places all at some point.

[00:33:46]I'm avoiding to meet in fact me I will I appreciate that >> because as I always say all these challenges whatsoever for me >> I see them as feedbacks >> because sometimes they help you to improve.

[00:33:58]>> Yeah, you have a better way of doing it.

[00:34:10]>> But sometimes also very interesting.

[00:34:15]Yeah.

[00:34:16]Yes.

[00:34:17]>> Yes. Yes. Yes. From experience.

[00:34:20]>> That's true.

[00:34:20]>> I've been with IC for for for 20 years and I've been a regional office officer for almost 18 to 19 years.

[00:34:31]>> So I've done pasting myself.

[00:34:36]I can remember 2011 I was in NBR not bank.

[00:34:41]>> Yeah.

[00:34:55]Wow.

[00:34:56]>> Sometime is frustrating. Sometime we understand and for us we are ready for it and we will continue doing it. But sometimes some of the blames Because I cannot understand why should anybody >> why would anybody do that because >> last election last registration 2021 no single appeals was done at the in all the seven regions but after the elections no complaint >> and we cannot always continue to blame the IEC when we are not challenging them.

[00:35:51]at this point and all that stuff and a lot of them will regret.

[00:36:26]Somehow they are pointing fingers at IC may notify may inform. So it Don't expect me to come and tell you come and sue me. I will not ask you to come and sue me because if you sleep over your right you don't have anybody to blame tomorrow because the judiciary We are all prepared because we are part of the election project because >> so it was even surprising at the end of the day.

[00:37:29]It was surprising because nobody saw that coming. So at the endbody then you are not ready to join that competition.

[00:38:12]House put in order.

[00:38:24]Yeah.

[00:38:36]But anything that has to deal with the next He feels that his name should not be done. Exactly.

[00:39:18]So exactly an official document for painful.

[00:39:44]So that is a lot very painful.

[00:40:00]So that's the thing.

[00:40:13]I think it's important.

[00:40:38]For example, first how should anybody approach stuff like this?

[00:41:05]>> Yeah. So have some relations put into consideration. But the truth is evidence.

[00:41:31]So but again for evidence obviously It's a very important thing.

[00:42:37]Because the thing registry.

[00:43:09]And sometimes, how do you know?

[00:43:38]Yeah.

[00:43:51]number one.

[00:44:09]And secondly, register.

[00:44:39]Number two, It's a very delicate situation.

[00:44:48]>> Yeah. So again, so Mhm.

[00:45:20]encounter Please not back lawcess.

[00:46:13]A lot of black screens. Can you check what is going on?

[00:46:30]But still we seek for amendment.

[00:46:37]still but for now definitely exactly interesting. It's very interesting and >> I know you have other questions but just to add to that you know >> it's just a suspect.

[00:47:01]>> Yes. At that point, [snorts] [laughter] presumption of innocence proven guilty.

[00:47:24]So this in this scenario is the information that you will at that point because it's a suspect.

[00:47:49]>> You are not the joy there prison. defense.

[00:47:57]>> Somebody is seated there to precide over that.

[00:48:02]>> Yeah.

[00:48:03]>> At that point it amounts to interference in the system >> system >> in the process rather >> and in that instead of at that moment Yes.

[00:48:25]>> For your action. Yeah.

[00:48:26]>> For your actions. Their has the authorcess.

[00:48:54]So at any given time right now is the right moment >> but once is passed through the revising courts without challenge or even with challenge but is overturn whatsoever I certify that >> come election >> a man because it's like you don't have that authority and power because once my name is in that voter list >> I have a right to vote.

[00:49:44]>> Wow.

[00:49:44]>> So you don't have that power or that authority under any law of this land.

[00:49:56]No, no, no. That is the wrong time >> to do that through the revising course. If you are successful now I've completed the process.

[00:50:22]How about that?

[00:50:34]The Gambians and approve based on XYZ because they underage then you have done the right thing because that Yes. Because you are taking the law into your own hands. Yeah.

[00:51:06]which nobody has that right to do that in this country.

[00:51:11]>> Yes.

[00:51:22]>> Close certified 2021 still now is in our our stores.

[00:51:31]>> Yeah.

[00:51:33]magistrate clean all the stuff he can sign and once he sign the period elaps >> that is the 60 days period elaps then that become now this is why I always repeat >> okay Importance of the next stage >> very important >> near grief if you are grieved by any issues >> any person's registration you know right because once um certify for registration sign Even >> even with that Supreme Court because already they in the system.

[00:52:40]Exactly.

[00:53:00]uh the data uh it has um register registration sign off consider now this is the register because you've repeated that severally >> and it's definitely a challenge you know, friends and all that stuff.

[00:53:40]Fine. That is beautiful and it's okay.

[00:53:42]Yeah. But then you understand we want to correct everything that we think that is wrong.

[00:54:00]>> Yes.

[00:54:00]>> And we want to do it through the legal means.

[00:54:05]>> It's okay. It's fine. That's why for me it should not be a problem.

[00:54:09]>> Yeah.

[00:54:11]revising court all that I will do is to go there and defend myself >> because you have a right >> or is wrongly done >> responsibility in fact it become a responsibility as a citizen of this country to make sure that in accordance with the law Everybody is convinced and okay then we will not have problem or we will have less problems. So in the villages that will mean that Okay.

[00:55:29]>> Yeah.

[00:55:29]>> Yeah. Because already it's clear to you that you have other hidden agendas there just to create problem.

[00:55:50]So I don't think this would be a problem.

[00:56:00]That's why.

[00:56:11]Yeah. Yeah. So just to add on to that again because registration IC.

[00:56:52]So it's not about and you able to prove that.

[00:57:11]So with a clean heart, with a clean mindus to change anything. So the opportunity process.

[00:58:21]So, because of A very important stage for the longest history.

[00:59:05]It will be a very interesting one to watch and learn and understand the city process. It is going to help even Improve maybeology.

[00:59:42]So at the endallenge I lifetime.

[01:00:14]I have never seen advising God sitting >> even um 2021 registration 2026 2021 because it was after the change looks like something new to a lot of us because Revising sitting over sometimes just try the system. Yeah. And secondly, rulings of those revising court.

[01:01:32]So rulings rulings are important.

[01:01:38]voters certific.

[01:01:42]For example, understand they don't have all they don't have a perfect system I think it's important Yeah.

[01:02:45]>> I'm not advocating for revising.

[01:02:56]Okay. Because you will learn. Yeah.

[01:03:02]Yeah.

[01:03:13]Yeah.

[01:03:24]Stop from that moment.

[01:03:26]>> Yeah.

[01:03:34]So you stop because it's going to be public hearing.

[01:03:42]>> Yeah. So meaning >> and the other thing whether we closing I don't know and I will still say >> I see maybe we the custodians of the process >> but Gambiancessh But then how to call it?

[01:04:26]Yeah. That's why we have to respect >> because in the end >> that's why so if we enable to do opinion.

[01:05:11]So I don't think so.

[01:05:21]So even at workplace >> we become now related. So I don't see any reason why they all have a constitutional right >> to contest.

[01:05:42]>> So you as a Gambian you have a con constitutional right >> to associate or affiliate with anybody in convince and also the moment.

[01:06:19]So on that note, responsibility.

[01:06:28]Yeah.

[01:06:42]The will >> this coming election when it comes to the IEC the will of the people will be reflected and they going to be independent and impartial so far it looks very convincing. So I think >> I I will add before he comes.

[01:07:08]>> Yes.

[01:07:09]>> Even the previous ones always 2016 is a clear indicator.

[01:07:18]>> And I said that here 2016 is the same.

[01:07:28]I said that is the same also declare >> but 2021 same >> it's the same [laughter] but and I kept saying I think the Supreme Court it was a missed opportunity the Supreme Court should have allowed us to hear that way and I think but it's the same that sat on the 2016 impartiality will of the people will be reflected and for this one but we will be here again and again because we can look at something and do something for Understand?

[01:08:45]Yeah.

[01:08:51]Because So the fact of the Mhm.

[01:09:09]Because Yes.

[01:09:45]Because responsibility.

[01:10:11]2016 organiz Yeah. 2022 parliamentary election election.

[01:10:35]Yes, of course.

[01:10:39]Fore we can polition. Mhm.

[01:11:35]Thank you very much.

[01:11:47]But anytime we have the platform, but you guys are the experts, but you are always available.

[01:12:01]Honestly, you know, I have seen a whole different they always come to this platform and you guys have been doing that especially for us. We can say that start to the end.

[01:12:42]own free will.

[01:12:45]So it's very important. And I think on theution when we came out and told people we did a good campaign telling people and you saw what people >> [laughter] >> WhatsApp enlightened population is always an informed one Because [laughter] thank you so much. I want to thank you for facilitating the vice chair. He was so accessible and I love that conversation.

[01:14:18]Next is him. Thank you so much and thank you so much.

[01:14:29]We'll be back on our normal show. Good night to you all. See you again Thursday. Bye-bye.

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