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[00:00:00]All right, coming up next is Snow. Snow is calling from Florida and wants to talk about the Christian God being evil.

[00:00:15]Snow, if you can hear me, please provide me with your age and pronouns.

[00:00:19]>> Yo, I'm 38 and uh I'm a guy.

[00:00:24]>> Okay. What are your guy pronouns?

[00:00:27]>> Uh Mr. Mister is an honorific.

[00:00:32]>> Uh he >> There we go.

[00:00:36]All right. Snow calling in about the Christian God being evil. All right, Snow. Uh just to give you my opening, I do believe the Christian God is evil because he does things in the Bible that we'd call evil if any human did them. Do you disagree with this? And if so, why?

[00:00:56]Uh the Christian God is Christ, right?

[00:01:00]>> Uh it can be depending on which sect of Christianity you follow. Some Christians believe Christ is God. Some believe Christ is the son.

[00:01:09]>> Some believe in the Trinity. Some don't.

[00:01:12]>> Some people believe that Christ is the devil.

[00:01:16]>> I don't know of a Christian sect that believes that, but okay.

[00:01:20]>> I mean, it's it's it's u it's a valid.

[00:01:24]This is the thing. Religion is matrix.

[00:01:26]So if we're if we're talking about religion in the matrix, all bets are off, dude. Like it could be anything, you know? It could be whatever anybody says.

[00:01:35]>> I'm sorry. When you say religion is matrix. What do you mean by that?

[00:01:41]>> Religion is the matrix. Like religion is doctrine. Every religion has their doctrine and has and has fundamentally like um shown humanity how to behave.

[00:01:52]You know, the Muslims behave a certain way. The Christians behave a certain way. The Catholics behave a certain way.

[00:01:58]The Jehovah Witnesses, the the Buddhists, you know, everybody behave a certain way because of religion. Because of their religion. So that's the matrix.

[00:02:06]>> Sorry. What religion? What? I'm sorry.

[00:02:09]I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Maybe I'm just crazy. Maybe I'm just crazy. Did you hear the sentence I said at the start of the show? Should I repeat it?

[00:02:16]>> Sure.

[00:02:17]>> Is that the start of this call?

[00:02:19]>> Sure.

[00:02:19]>> Yeah. I believe the Christian God is evil because the stuff that he does in the Bible, if any other person did that, we would call them evil.

[00:02:33]Do you disagree with that statement?

[00:02:35]>> Give me one example of one of those things that supposedly he did.

[00:02:39]>> He flooded the entire earth, killing everybody.

[00:02:43]>> That's righteous.

[00:02:44]>> That's righteous.

[00:02:46]Yes.

[00:02:47]>> It's righteous to commit to commit a genocide.

[00:02:50]>> Yeah. You don't understand. And we might not understand.

[00:02:54]>> The people back then were sick for everything.

[00:02:57]>> They were sick.

[00:02:58]>> Okay.

[00:02:58]>> Yeah.

[00:02:59]>> So, it's okay to it's okay to slaughter a group of people if if you believe that they're sick.

[00:03:05]>> Um, it was sickness beyond sickness.

[00:03:09]>> Mhm. What did the babies do that was sick?

[00:03:14]The baby's w is there.

[00:03:17]>> So, it's okay to kill babies. It's okay to kill the babies even though the other people were sick. The babies still got to go, right?

[00:03:24]>> But this is the thing though, like Hold on. Please, please address that.

[00:03:30]Let's not move away from that, please.

[00:03:32]>> The baby soul is connected to God. So, when the baby goes away, he goes back to God. And that soul could come back again.

[00:03:39]>> Yes. So, it's okay to brutally murder a baby as long as the soul goes to God.

[00:03:44]>> That baby was going to grow up to be most likely a savage, rapist, um, sick mongrel, like mutated somehow. That's how they were back then.

[00:03:54]>> How do you know that?

[00:03:56]>> Cuz I I know I have the Holy Spirit in me. And not only that, the text reveals it.

[00:04:00]>> Oh, you know, because of vibes.

[00:04:02]>> Back then, >> just because of you, you vibed it.

[00:04:06]>> Not only that, back then there was giants. So their DNA was like morphed.

[00:04:10]Everything was [ __ ] up.

[00:04:11]>> Why was their DNA morphed?

[00:04:14]>> Because we're not supposed to be gigantic.

[00:04:16]>> Why? Where did the giants come from?

[00:04:20]>> The giants came from heaven.

[00:04:23]>> The giants. So God made the giants.

[00:04:26]>> Yes, sir.

[00:04:27]>> And then punished us for sleeping with the giants that he made >> pretty much. Why did Why didn't God just >> Why didn't God just not just make it so that humans and giants couldn't [ __ ] Wouldn't that have been easier >> than killing all the humans?

[00:04:48]>> This is the thing. I'm one of those persons that you're not going to fully ever understand. That being said, >> can you just answer the question he asked? I don't know why we're I don't need to like >> preempt.

[00:04:59]>> Maybe he didn't feel like it. He didn't feel like it back then. Back then he said at that moment a good God. A good God could have avoided this mess, but he didn't. And then because of a mess he made, he killed all people, including babies.

[00:05:15]>> But this is the thing. He didn't make any mess. God doesn't make messes.

[00:05:20]>> So, okay. So, when God regretted creating humans because they slept with the angels, that wasn't a that wasn't a mistake. That wasn't a mess.

[00:05:27]>> Cuz he expresses explicit regret. He explicitly respected.

[00:05:31]>> He regretted it. Of course he regretted it. He regret >> is regret is regret not admission of a mistake.

[00:05:39]>> It's admission of pain. He doesn't want to go through that pain again. That's what he came back.

[00:05:44]>> But if he regrets doing something, >> if he regrets doing it, >> right, then that would be a mistake because he did something that he wished he hadn't done because he regrets it.

[00:06:01]Because Noah walks out, Noah and his family, they walk out of of of the ark of the um yeah of of the ark when it's finally dry and it's all good and mission accomplished.

[00:06:13]>> And >> okay, so it's actually cool that he killed it's cool that he killed all those babies cuz like six people lived.

[00:06:20]>> This is the thing. He thought that by saving Noah, he was salvaging something that was not good. We we've been good.

[00:06:28]His creation has been good. We're good.

[00:06:30]>> Saving Noah.

[00:06:31]>> We're good.

[00:06:32]>> Wait. So, we are good.

[00:06:34]>> So, we were good until we [ __ ] the giants >> until the giants [ __ ] us.

[00:06:40]>> So, the giants were raping us >> pretty much.

[00:06:44]>> So, let me get this straight. He punished us for being raped. So, the giants came to Earth, raped a bunch of humans, and God got mad about it and didn't punish the giants. Instead, he killed every human for it. Is that what is that? Is that what I'm hearing?

[00:07:03]>> You thinking that he didn't punish the giants? The giants can no longer anything.

[00:07:07]>> Answer me this. Let's say I go Let's say I I'm walking by a dark alley and in this dark alley a woman is being assaulted and I have a gun and I shoot both the rapist and then I shoot her.

[00:07:21]Did I do good?

[00:07:25]No, because you looked at her and you shot her.

[00:07:28]>> But God did that.

[00:07:30]>> You're telling me You're telling me that the giants raped the humans and to punish humans for being raped, God killed all of them?

[00:07:42]>> Are are you underestimating the value of the giant's life and and angels and all that?

[00:07:49]Are you saying that it's okay to kill people that have been raped as punishment for the rape?

[00:07:57]>> I see it more as in he shot the guy, but she was still on the way and he got her too by mistake.

[00:08:06]>> So God made does make mistakes is what you're telling me.

[00:08:09]>> He accidentally did the flood. The flood was an accident.

[00:08:13]>> That's what you're talking.

[00:08:13]>> It's a mistake. It's a mistake for us because he's merciful. We can't handle that. We obviously we can't handle getting destroyed, can we? So, we need to be saved, right?

[00:08:23]>> But he didn't save us. He killed all of us.

[00:08:29]>> Uh, but then how are we here again?

[00:08:32]>> Because six people did incest to make the rest of us.

[00:08:36]>> So, it was better for God to do an incest than it was for him to forgive people for being raped by giants.

[00:08:45]>> But this is the thing. It's It was an incest back then, but it's not an incest now.

[00:08:50]>> Well, no. Technically, it is still incest now. We're all We like If If we're all born of the same two people >> Mhm.

[00:08:58]>> still incest. It's just incest way down the line.

[00:09:02]>> Yeah. Way down the line makes it not incest anymore. Our DNA is so far apart and >> incest just means you're sleeping with someone related to you.

[00:09:12]>> If you're saying we're all related, >> then we're all related. than incest.

[00:09:16]>> We're all related. We're related to each other from from the beginning.

[00:09:20]>> So incest, >> you can't focus on the incest part because it's it's pretty nasty.

[00:09:27]>> I can't. But God wanted but God wanted incest to happen.

[00:09:32]>> It's not incest anymore. We shouldn't even use that because >> But he wanted incest. But he wanted incest to happen before.

[00:09:40]>> At some point he changed his mind on incest.

[00:09:42]>> Hold on. But hold on. Hold on a second.

[00:09:44]Did you not know that besides Adam and Eve, there was other humans, too? There was apes and there was other types of humans, too.

[00:09:51]>> I'm not talking about Adam and Eve.

[00:09:53]>> I'm talking about Noah and Noah's family. There were no other There were no other humans that got spared from the flood. Correct. It was just Noah and his and his kids, his three sons and their wives.

[00:10:06]>> Um, it was two it was two matrimonies. Three matrimonies. Two matrimonies. So offsprings of two different families because really the dads are different.

[00:10:18]Two different dads break down to two >> different granddads.

[00:10:25]>> So it's okay it's okay for it's okay for cousins to [ __ ] >> I'm just glad I don't have to listen to that. I'm in snow. Snow >> is it a good thing for cousins to [ __ ] Okay, one more time. There was other beings. There was There's always been other beings, other humans.

[00:10:48]>> Who else survived the flood? Except for Noah, Noah's wife, and his three sons and their wives. Who else survived the flood?

[00:11:02]>> The animals.

[00:11:05]>> So, humans [ __ ] animals to repopulate.

[00:11:08]It wasn't incest. We was just [ __ ] like >> orangutans.

[00:11:12]>> No, no, because there were no So again, there were no other people who survived the flood except Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their three wives. So where did the rest of us come from?

[00:11:35]You was given the task to repopulate the earth. just you and your family and you had to find a way to do it. Would you do it? Would you find a way to No, I would tell my I would tell my family I would let the species die. I would tell my kids don't [ __ ] your cousins and don't [ __ ] your siblings, >> right? Um, >> you wouldn't though. You would [ __ ] your If it was just you and your cousin left, you two would [ __ ] each other.

[00:12:02]>> Me and my cousin, of course.

[00:12:04]>> Uhhuh. If it was just you and your sister, would you [ __ ] her?

[00:12:07]No.

[00:12:08]>> Why not?

[00:12:10]>> Because sister is is sister, dude.

[00:12:13]Sister is is not supposed to be a sexual.

[00:12:16]>> But cousin is but cousin is okay.

[00:12:18]>> Yeah, cousin is okay.

[00:12:19]>> Can I ask you a really important question?

[00:12:22]>> Yeah.

[00:12:22]>> Are you married?

[00:12:25]>> I'm divorced.

[00:12:26]>> You're divorced?

[00:12:28]Where did you meet your ex-wife?

[00:12:31]>> Twice. Divorced.

[00:12:32]>> Uh I met my ex-wife in high school.

[00:12:35]officially high school.

[00:12:36]>> We we went to high school together.

[00:12:38]Yeah.

[00:12:38]>> You sure it wasn't at a family reunion?

[00:12:44]>> Not really because she my first wife is black and I'm like >> Spaniard. Yeah, but we're all related.

[00:12:51]>> Not a possibility.

[00:12:52]>> Do you think Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Do you think there's not black Spanish people?

[00:12:59]>> Yeah, of course there is. Okay. So, what is her being black and you being Hispanic?

[00:13:05]>> That means she's not my sister.

[00:13:09]>> It means she's not your sister. You sure?

[00:13:11]>> My baby mama? Of course not, dude. Like, that's like a whole different [ __ ] genetics and [ __ ] >> Okay. I'm just making sure. You're really You're You really seem okay with Noah and his kids [ __ ] each other. I just want to make sure.

[00:13:22]>> Okay. But we need to understand certain things, dude, before we we even be able to pick up the Bible and read it. We need to accept it. We need to love it.

[00:13:32]And all these things will be revealed.

[00:13:35]>> What What would be revealed from Noah's kids [ __ ] what gets revealed?

[00:13:39]>> It was other people. It wasn't just It wasn't just all the people survived. Of course, other families, all the people that survived were survivors.

[00:13:48]>> Who?

[00:13:49]>> Families all over the earth. Dude, the earth is a big planet.

[00:13:53]>> So God was God wasn't actually able to kill everybody.

[00:13:57]>> He he he actually just he wasn't able to do that.

[00:14:01]Um, it's not that he wasn't able to. I share that.

[00:14:06]>> It's that he just focused it. We're just focused on that one section of the world right there where Noah lived.

[00:14:12]>> So, did God >> that happened with Noah?

[00:14:15]>> Huh?

[00:14:16]>> So, you're Did God fail? Because Genesis very clearly states >> with us. Yes.

[00:14:22]>> Genesis very clearly states that every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. Only Noah was left and those with him in the ark.

[00:14:33]So did you just not read the Bible? Snow >> says the work. Says the book. Yes. Says the book. Yes.

[00:14:39]>> So then what humans were left?

[00:14:40]>> I believe I believe in anything else too. I believe that maybe some other people survive too. Who who knows?

[00:14:46]>> So God's word is fallible.

[00:14:51]>> God's word is beautiful. God's word is the truth.

[00:14:56]God's word tells us that no other person survived. But you're disagreeing with God's word.

[00:15:04]>> Also, my first language is Spanish.

[00:15:06]Okay. So, my brain is like divided.

[00:15:08]Remember that?

[00:15:08]>> Oh, okay. Let me translate.

[00:15:10]>> Do you know what the word every means?

[00:15:13]>> No, no. I'm just saying that so you understand that I understand it. Of course, I understand it.

[00:15:19]>> So, is the Bible God is the Bible >> divinely inspired by God? Is the Bible God's word?

[00:15:31]>> 100%.

[00:15:33]>> So when the Bible states, and I quote, "Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. Only Noah was left and those with him in the ark," is that a lie?

[00:15:47]>> How is that a lie?

[00:15:49]>> So it's not a lie.

[00:15:50]>> It's not a lie.

[00:15:52]>> You told me there were other people left, so you lied.

[00:15:55]Hey, no, I'm just saying there might have been other people, dude. Who knows?

[00:15:59]>> So then when God says every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out, only know was left, you think God might have missed some people?

[00:16:08]>> Yes.

[00:16:09]>> So the all powerful, all knowing, allseeing God was unable to kill every human. There were some that escaped his all knowingness and allseeingness.

[00:16:21]>> Oh, he let it happen. He let him escape because he had mercy. So then he lied in the Bible. So God is a liar. So when it says every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out, was that a lie or a mistake?

[00:16:35]>> You know, in that video game Uncharted, when you like find a chart or a map and you have to like reveal the the map and [ __ ] that is like that gets revealed later on, I believe.

[00:16:46]>> So is this a lie or a mistake?

[00:16:49]>> Nothing is a lie. The only mistake that was made is the mistake we made. We made the mistake, not God. God gave us free will.

[00:16:58]>> When the book says every living, let me just start from the beginning again.

[00:17:04]Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out.

[00:17:14]Do you believe some people survived?

[00:17:18]>> Yes.

[00:17:20]The Bible disagrees with you. Is the Bible lying or is the Bible mistaken?

[00:17:28]>> The Bible. How is the Bible disagreeing with me? The Bible is >> Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out. People and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left and those with him in the ark. My question again, considering there were only eight people on the ark, Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives, >> where would the other people come from?

[00:18:00]>> And why are you telling me something the Bible disagrees with you on? Or is there a simpler answer you haven't read the Bible?

[00:18:09]>> The Bible is telling you the story of Noah and and his and his past.

[00:18:13]>> It's just a it's just a story. It's not a story based on a historical event.

[00:18:19]>> Of course it is. That's the beautiful part that it did happen but so long ago, dude, that it might have just >> been another [ __ ] life altogether, you know?

[00:18:29]>> So the Bible has mistakes in it.

[00:18:34]>> Um the only thing I see with us cuz we're the ones that make mistakes. God doesn't make mistakes. His design doesn't make mistake. But >> so the Bible has signed the contract.

[00:18:50]>> No, it doesn't. We signed the contract.

[00:18:52]>> So this when I I'm going to read you this quote again and you're going to tell me whether this is a mistake or not. Every living thing, that means anything that was alive on the face of the earth was wiped out. This is a statement in the Bible from Genesis 7:23.

[00:19:14]>> Does is this sentence true?

[00:19:19]>> That sentence is true.

[00:19:22]>> You told me that people survived the ark. You either lied or you were mistaken.

[00:19:34]>> People did survive the ark.

[00:19:36]>> Other than Noah.

[00:19:39]That's the part that, you know, I'm putting my my seasoning on it.

[00:19:45]>> Other than Noah.

[00:19:48]>> Noah definitely survived. Um, >> did anyone You told me that.

[00:19:53]>> You told me. You told me that people other than Noah bastard out there survived.

[00:19:58]>> You told So, so you're sure >> someone else might have survived. So, you disagree with the Bible. So, if everything was taken out of the earth, um, how come the devil is still roaming around?

[00:20:14]>> Because the devil is not a people or an animal.

[00:20:17]>> Oh, no. Oh, he isn't.

[00:20:19]>> Is the devil people now?

[00:20:22]>> He could be.

[00:20:24]>> Snow, can I ask you a serious question before I I move on? Can I ask you a serious question before I move on?

[00:20:31]>> The thing is is that >> Snow, I want to ask you a serious Snow, I want to ask you a serious question before add on. Dude, >> I want to ask you a Snow. I want Snow. I want to ask you a serious question.

[00:20:40]Snow, I have a serious question for you.

[00:20:42]>> Do you smell pennies?

[00:20:43]>> Yeah.

[00:20:44]>> Do you smell pennies >> like at all times?

[00:20:48]>> Are you sure?

[00:20:49]>> I smell I smell >> Because it seems like your brain it as somebody who's also autistic, I can follow a train of thought. It seems like you're now using the autism to like >> wave away that you were caught in either a lie or you being mistaken about a book you've not read, which is the Bible.

[00:21:07]>> So like I don't know why not just admit I was wrong.

[00:21:10]>> The the the Bible has been read so many times already. I've read >> but not by you. But not by you.

[00:21:18]>> No, by me. The Bible is like imprinted to my DNA. What are you talking >> answer right now without without I don't want to hear any no space. No space.

[00:21:25]Nothing like that. Answer right now.

[00:21:27]Right this second. What's your favorite Bible verse?

[00:21:30]>> Because you My favorite Bible verse. Um, >> see, you had to think about it. No. No, you didn't read the Bible. Sorry.

[00:21:38]>> You didn't read that [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here.

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