Blake Lively Lost Big in Baldoni Legal War | 2 Angry Men

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[00:00:00]So bottom line is right now she got zero. So I'm not taking sides here. I I'm just as an observer I don't see how you can look at this as anything but a loss for Blake Live.

[00:00:14]>> Well, welcome. This is a special two Angry Men with an upgrade in the middle.

[00:00:19]Lauren LA magazine. Uh Harvey and I, by the way, we I want you to know that pre-production we just switched. So, since we're wearing the same shirt, we're on either side of Lauren.

[00:00:31]>> Yeah. Actually, >> and Harvey's in the dark, so you know, there's that. Um, but >> and there's two subjects today that I wanted to talk about. The first one is the lively Baldoni settlement this week where we have both sides taking kind of victory laps which I have a lot of opinions on this but Harvey you better than anybody have been around Hollywood longer than time itself. How what's your take on both of these sides declaring victory?

[00:01:04]>> Blake Lively lost period. Blake Lively lost this case. She wanted more than $und00 million, more than $150 million, and she ended up getting nothing. She settled for no money. There was no apology. It was I acknowledge that uh we will take your issue seriously. There's no but I'm sorry for what I did. There is no exchange of money. And that's what civil lawsuits are about. Civil lawsuits are about money and that's it. Now, you could say, well, they're also about abdication and or or rather just, you know, somebody kind of acknowledging that, you know, you did me dirty. He never said he did her dirty in the settlement. So, I don't know what she won. The only thing that is weird to me is that there is this outstanding issue where he that she's going after him for lawyers fees because of this uh peculiar California law that says that if somebody files a sexual harassment lawsuit uh and then the person sued turns around and files a defamation lawsuit and the defamation lawsuit is thrown out, um the person who filed a sexual harassment lawsuit gets attorney's fees. Well, it's true that Justin Baldon's uh defamation lawsuit got thrown out, but her sexual harassment lawsuit got thrown out, too.

[00:02:37]So, I'm not sure how this law even works where she would get attorney's fees for a lawsuit that was thrown out. So, bottom line is right now she got zero.

[00:02:49]So, I'm not taking sides here. I I'm just as an observer, I don't see how you can look at this as anything but a loss for Blake Lively.

[00:02:57]>> Mark, I texted you this. I I said, "How does this work?" And I was also curious about the laws because it's only California law. And I believe he filed this directly uh in the Southern District. So, I had a lot of questions about that.

[00:03:10]>> So, it's so funny that Harvey hit exactly what I wanted to talk about. And I Harvey, we did not discuss this beforehand. In fact, we had a lot of discussions today and it did not even remotely res uh traverse this area. And Lauren, you're right. It's a California law. It was enacted, I think, passed the legislature in 23. Enacted January 1st of 2024. No real um test of it so far in the little over two years since. Going to be up to the Southern District Judge um Judge Lyman. Ironically, the son of one of the kind of legendary First Amendment lawyers that ever lived, Arthur Lyman, who was kind of a I never really worked with him, but God, when I was a young lawyer, that was the go-to one of the go-to guys along with Edward Bennett Williams. He's supposed to now decide this peculiar code section, which by the way, ironically, they also said there's no appeal. part of the walk away, if you will, is >> they're going to accept what the judge says.

[00:04:17]>> Correct. They've got to take it no matter what.

[00:04:20]>> Was my analysis of this thing right?

[00:04:23]>> Yeah. Oh, yes. Exactly. Right. That it's basically a first cousin, if you will, it's in the same family as the anti-slap. So in an anti-slap generally if you get into the an area that is arguably a matter of public concern and then you can always slap somebody's lawsuit and that's exactly what they're trying to do here. But the problem the wrinkle is you nailed it exactly. The original harassment which triggers this law was dismissed. And if you're Blake Lively's team or lawyer, I'm I'm saying to myself, well, I guess I could go declare victory, but this has been pending since September 25. The reason I think it's been pending is because the judge was waiting to see what happened with these sexual harassment cases or causes of action. They've now been dismissed. So, how in the world, although there's no This is one of the greatest positions for a judge to be in.

[00:05:25]I've been given cart blanch to decide a case of first impression and there's no appeal. So, he it's going to be fascinating to wait for, but I'm with you. I don't know how you ever declare victory in a case like this um where they on the eve of trial, they basically waved the white flag and he he didn't apologize >> at all. He didn't apologize in the settlement that you know it's you know I I we take seriously what she says >> right >> is not an apology. No.

[00:06:01]>> And and you know they they they went over this language for 20 hours and that's what they came up with. And she was look here's the reality.

[00:06:11]And you know I was saying this all along and and I'm not doing an I I don't like doing I told you so because I'm wrong a lot. But in this one I never saw this going to trial because it would have ruined both of them. They would have been grilled like cheeseburgers in cross-examination.

[00:06:30]>> Why did it take this long though? We like I feel like they just had this whole >> They were waiting for the other person to blink.

[00:06:38]>> Okay, then my other question is and and again forgive me if this sounds dumb, but how do you as Blake Lively as her attorneys and and Harvey you said this, you're first you're asking for hundreds of millions of dollars, then it's a hundred million dollars. Then you walk away with nothing and you say, "We won.

[00:06:56]We succeeded." I don't understand that.

[00:06:58]Like are do they think we're all done?

[00:07:00]>> I have a I have >> they won they won this like we're winning the Iran war.

[00:07:07]>> Yeah. Exactly. You say it doesn't make it so.

[00:07:10]>> Okay. Well, >> the cynic in me says they had Lively had I think upwards of five law firms that I was counting on the docking. I, you know, I've seen reporting of $60 million all in for both sides. It would shock me if based on the firms that were involved that Lively did not spend $30 million on >> which I think you're right and it's just crazy. It's you know it's one of those things where it just takes on a life of its own and you know for people who would step back and look at it you would say this is crazy but they didn't and here we are. So, I have no idea how the judge is going to rule on this. And the judge also has a lot of discretion about how much money, even if she's entitled to lawyers fees, if the judge feels that, how much is she entitled to? All of it, everything that she did.

[00:08:10]I don't think so. I think they're going to start separating it. And look, if she gets anything, if you get attorney's fees, but you get no compensatory damages, no punitive damages, you lost your case. I mean that's simple.

[00:08:25]>> And the other there's always and this is what's so kind of uh frustrating if you will. There are insurance companies undoubtedly that are involved. There are insurance companies who have probably paid money under a reservation of rights which means they say we're going to defend you because it's our duty to defend you especially if it's a California uh insured. And then there's going to be because of the reservation of rights and because this was settled if the reports are accurate at a private mediation right on the uh over the weekend so to speak that the insurance companies probably also part of the settlement agreement is going to be they have they've carved out who owes what and who has to pay what and who indemnifies who. Even if there was an attorney's fees award, I'm not so sure that's ever going to come out of Justin Baldon's pocket. I think that would be the insurance company's arm wrestling and fighting over all of those things.

[00:09:25]And then I'll give you one other thing, and I mentioned this to Lauren last week. If you read the order where 10 of the 13 counts uh causes of action got thrown out, this judge spared no words or criticism of the law firms for Blake Lively. If you read the order, it's almost as if he's saying, "You want to you want to go after somebody for damages? Go after your lawyers for screwing this up."

[00:09:51]>> Yeah. I mean, that that well could be what he was telegraphing. But I I gotta say, when you look at this from start to finish, I I just don't know what motivated all of it because if you kind of play it out and realize that there are going to be dep there there are going to be interrogatories and you're going to have to submit documents and Taylor Swift's gonna get involved and your husband's gonna get involved in this too and he's not gonna look good and your relationship with Taylor is not going to look good. And if your relationship with Taylor blows up, you become an enemy to a lot of people because of Taylor Swift's popularity and on and on and on and on. And it just this lawsuit never made sense to me from the beginning.

[00:10:45]What motivated it? I mean, look, she may have legitimate grievances, but a lawsuit's not always the way to heir those grievances. And I just think that from the beginning this thing was a disaster for her.

[00:11:01]>> Well, I I remember exactly how this this all played out. I mean, it was one thing after another where she didn't take the central theme of domestic violence seriously in certain interviews and then she was kind of, you know, she was harassed for that online and then a video circulated of of her being rude to that Swedish reporter saying, "Oh, I like your little bump." you know, it wasn't a good look. She felt the need to come out and explain this and and in my opinion, I've said this before, I would have forgotten all about that bad publicity. Honestly, I would have forgotten in two months when the cycle, the media cycle moved on, but no, someone in her camp was advising her to do this. And I want to know who that person was because I think this is career ruining, honestly.

[00:11:46]>> Yeah. I mean, look, I I I've covered celebrities long enough to know that you can't look at something and kind of take a snapshot of the moment in time and define them for the rest of their lives.

[00:11:58]I mean, Michael Vic would never play football again, you would think, but he did. And you know, Mel Gibson would never do another movie, but he did. You think I'm gonna hire her Harvey after she accused like you think >> give it give it like three or four people have a very very short attention span this is not murder it's a lawsuit that got messed up and you know people are going to forget this in three years I really I I I' I've seen it so >> before we move on to one other subject I want to discuss I want you to rank three lawsuits or and they actually were lawsuits. Barbara Streryand, Amber Heard, Rake Lively. Now with the Barbara Stryand had to do with her house um and I believe on the coast and that became kind of in the nomenclature the Stryand effect, right? And Amber Heard where I kind of very similar this whole thing echoes and now Blake Lively. Where do you rank them in terms of missteps? One, two, or three?

[00:13:05]you know, they're different. I mean, Amber Herd was a fiasco for her. So, in many ways, um, she's number one. And the Barbara Strerysan case was a privacy case. Um, and became a really important ruling. Um, but I don't think that impacted her career at all. Um, and also she hadn't really done much around the time that that lawsuit was filed. This one kind of falls in the middle, but again, you know, if you ask somebody in a year, what was the lively case about?

[00:13:43]They're not going to remember. So, I mean, we are like an etch a sketch in our society and you have something front and center and it's huge and then all of a sudden it goes away and something else comes on and it just becomes a memory.

[00:13:58]Nobody got killed. um you know there there's no video that's a smoking gun that you can't get over. So you know I think look if she kind of goes away for an a year two years you know to the extent she wants to work that night Harvey the Met Gala that night I don't think she's going away and and also Amber Heard moved out of the country and hasn't worked since. Just just saying I mean >> I could get a job today.

[00:14:29]>> Amber Herd could get a job today. I'm telling you.

[00:14:32]>> Yeah. And Barbara has been returned to iconic um her I not that she necessarily ever left. However, the Stryand effect is she will forever be remembered for that. I will tell you >> be remembered for funny girl Mark. She's not going to be remembered for a lawsuit.

[00:14:53]Nobody Nobody thinks of that when they think of >> Only I do. I do. Nobody else does.

[00:15:01]You're the only one.

[00:15:02]>> I'm gonna say Blake Lively is closer to Michael Richards, who I think >> Oh my god, no. Oh my god, no.

[00:15:10]>> I think she's closer to Michael Richards than she is to >> Michael Richards was screaming racial epithets over and over at the comedy.

[00:15:22]you will admit that he never came back from that >> and he's one of the few people that we've covered in 20 years who really hadn't. But I can give you a list of people that you would have written off, you know, especially during cancel culture era and they're all back.

[00:15:39]>> Well, I give you this. I do in my day job always advise clients just duck down, hunker down for, you know, 78, 90, whatever. A hundred hours is probably the rule. Somebody else is going to do something crazier or stupider than you and it'll all pass if you don't lean into it. So, >> I liked her movies. I I literally I really enjoyed her movies. Call, you know, call me simple, whatever. Um, but I you know it it is kind of a bummer the way this whole thing went down because you know she I can't imagine it was is easy for anyone involved and that's just my empathy for everybody. But anyway, >> see I you what what I think is and and I think this happens a lot. She was really angry and she sat down with a lawyer and the lawyer oversold her on what could happen. And I think that's what happened. You know Blake Lively is not a lawyer. She doesn't know the process of how all of this stuff works. And somebody painted a picture that looked like this was going to be a smooth landing and it wasn't. And I think that's where this whole thing started.

[00:16:46]Now, I don't disagree with that. In fact, I'm embroiled in a matter right now and it's settled or at least tenatively settled. And I in real time told opposing council, big firm opposing council, you know, one of the top five uh that this was a suicide mission for their client. They didn't need to do this and it was kind of mutually assured destruction. They did it anyway because they deferred to the client. I mean, that's a lot of times when you find these things and sometimes the lawyers get blamed. It's really the client for just insisting on this kind of scorched earth. And that could be the case here.

[00:17:25]So, you might be right.

[00:17:27]>> Okay, segue. Because one of the things that I know Harvey is interested in, because I certainly am, is the LA mayoral election. Um, Harvey, you want to do a little spiel on that because you've been all over this election?

[00:17:42]Well, I mean, my upset about this has to do with my life that I have not I'm not only a uh born and raised Los Angelino, but I'm second generation. My dad was born and raised in LA. And so, this is my life. And I have seen this city just fall apart, you know, over the last, I don't know, eight, nine years, but especially the last four years that, you know, the homeless problem is out of control in this city. I've been chased by people. A guy with a hammer uh walking out of my gym, he chased me with a hammer. Um, I had a mentally ill woman, a homeless woman take a a um a boulder and trash my car and I caught her doing it and I realized there is nothing I can do. What am I going to do?

[00:18:40]Get her arrested? I mean, what is that going to do? Am I going to sue her? So, I literally looked at my car, watched her walk away, and said, "I live in Los Angeles." And, you know, the fires have been an absolute outrage in this city.

[00:18:56]This didn't have to happen. Um, we had a hundred fire trucks that were out of service. The water pressure was messed up and people lost their homes as a result of bad leadership. And then all of a sudden people are throwing other people under the bus for no reason. I I this city operated in an appalling way during the fires. And by the way, it's not over. The insurance companies are screwing people over left and right.

[00:19:28]I've got a friend, his name is Dan Brun.

[00:19:30]He's an amazing architect. He put together a plan with a hundred architects to offer their services free of charge to rebuild Aladena and Pacific Palisades. And they had a whole plan. I actually contacted Gavin Newsome and Newsome.

[00:19:48]>> I remember when you did that. I remember put his people in touch with Dan and they were all in and they brought it down to the city which they had to do and it died a slow death in the city of Los Angeles. So, this city is not working. And now the question is, what do you do? And you know, I I'm out. I'm so angry.

[00:20:13]I am so angry at Rick Caruso for not running for mayor.

[00:20:19]>> Mayor and he's he knows administratively how to run a huge organization. Karen Bass never did. this city council woman who's running has never run a big organization and neither is Spencer Pratt. And so then what are you choosing here? And that's the question because honestly what are you choosing? Are you going to are you going to reelect a mayor who on her watch this has all happened to Los Angeles? So what are you going to do?

[00:20:56]Um, this is not an ideal situation.

[00:20:59]>> And you as somebody, you know, you said you were born and raised here and Lauren, you'll excuse the two angry old men because we're both uh have connect.

[00:21:07]I was born in downtown LA. I went to law school in downtown LA. I've spent my entire legal career in downtown LA. I'm I'm centered right at the engine company fire station, which is I've been there for 20 years. And Harvey couldn't be more right. is something happened started to happen 8 years ago 9 years ago the co came along and exacerbated it and we're living in an outdoor insane asylum in Los Angeles Hollywood has been decimated to Harvey's point the the idea of all of this home the homeless encampment situation I' I've got in I've got a client Rebecca Corey who's been fighting with the dogs down in Skid Row They're using the dogs to test fentanyl or drugs for fentanyl on Skid Road.

[00:22:01]Rebecca's been screaming from the light.

[00:22:04]>> Yeah, it's in she and she goes to She's got film of her at the city council meetings and they're just kind of they they don't care. They don't care about any of it. the homeless kind of industrial complex and the corruption surrounding that has frustrated no less than a a jud a federal judge down in Santa Ana where he's hauling the city down there because none of the officials will do what he's saying to do. So it's an incredibly frustrating situation. But to Spencer Pratt's credit, he has done something with the political ads. I don't know if you've got them, Lauren, but there are there are two in particular, and he's coming off of the um the debate where he really I thought kind of shown and he's >> Spencer won the debate.

[00:22:55]>> Yeah. Oh, he won it clearly. Here's >> find this one.

[00:22:59]>> Let's see.

[00:23:00]>> This is where Mayor Vass lives. You notice something? Or here where Nikkia Ramen's $3 million mansion sits. They don't have to live in the mess they've created where you live.

[00:23:12]This is where I live. They let my home burn down. I know what the consequences of failed leadership are. That's why I'm running for mayor for my sons and the rest of us Angelinos that want to stop these corrupt politicians from destroying our city. We are going to get the golden age of Los Angeles back.

[00:23:30]>> Wow.

[00:23:31]>> Yeah. He's tapped into something. I also will give a shout out to um Adam Corolla because Adam said and Adam was evacu I was evacuated in the fire. Adam uh in Malibu was surrounded by that that mess and he said at the time he made the prediction at the time he said wait until to me wait until you and all your your friends have to deal with the city and getting the permits and trying to navigate this. And then I said, "Trust me, I know what's going to happen with the insurance companies. I can see this coming." And sure enough, it's been worse than I ever expected. And there is a vein of people who never in a million years would have tilted towards Spencer Pratt or anybody who was kind of proudly embracing uh what his message, but they're open to it now. It's it's coming attraction.

[00:24:28]I'm sorry. Go ahead.

[00:24:30]>> He's behind in the polls, right? From from what I've seen, he's raised more money, but he's not he's not ahead.

[00:24:38]>> That's right. He's he's behind.

[00:24:40]>> So, what I want to ask you guys though, you Harvey, you're shaking your head. I I kind of see where where you are right now. Sort of. But I mean, there's something to be said about a a kid that's really hungry that really wants to get it done and really wants change.

[00:24:57]I'll tell you one one thing about Spencer Pratt that I I am so alarmed because look we have had are filled with reality stars going into politics and the reality is that they have name recognition and people it's good enough for them and they vote for him and that is alarming to me.

[00:25:19]Spencer Pratt has had no administrative experience. You have to run the Department of Transportation. You have to run the Department of Building and Safety, which should be issuing more permits than they are. You have to run uh departments that employ thousands and thousands and thousands of city workers.

[00:25:37]And it is a, you know, I I was a a local reporter in LA, TV reporter for 15 years. I know the way the city works and doesn't work because I've seen everything. And it is a complicated job, you know, even for somebody really skilled. Spencer Brat does not have that experience. Nor does Karen Bass or really anybody else running. The one thing about Spencer that I will say is that I was texting him the other day and I was expressing this to him that I'm really alarmed that you don't have this kind of experience. And he said, "I know." And he said, "I'm going to have smart people surround me." And I thought, "Well, I've heard that a million times before." But then he gave me two names.

[00:26:24]If these two people are legit that they really have signed on if he wins. Um I know these two people. Um and um you guys know them too. uh they're both very accomplished people in the city of Los Angeles who have had a lot to do with city government and you know they stand out as really competent and capable. So if those two people are on board and that's the level at which he's playing um there's some hope there.

[00:26:59]>> Well yeah I mean that's and you're not I'm not gonna hammer you to tell me who the two are. No, I promised I wouldn't.

[00:27:07]But um but again, you know, where are we? You know, oh, I'm so I'm so pissed off at Rick Caruso because he would have been so good. Um he would have been remember what happened.

[00:27:21]Remember for those in the weeds, remember what happened with Rick Caruso.

[00:27:24]Rick Caruso was either leading or neck andneck with Karen Bass last time. And then what happened? There was that recording that came out at the Fed that had supposedly was completely um mis or dropped if you will right on the eve uh as an October surprise before the election and that propelled um Karen Bass into office. And you know there are those who say it was a conspiracy at the time. There are those who say yeah they knew exactly what they were doing. They were going to they were going to put Karen Bass into office and take out Rick Caruso and he was the ultimate uh one victim of that. Lauren, I wanted to end with the Batman commercial. Do you talk about before?

[00:28:11]>> No, I I'll find it. I wanted to talk about aliens. Mark's not as into aliens as I am. So, >> well, I'm totally uh Lauren, I am so into it.

[00:28:19]>> Can we Can we talk about that next time because >> Yeah, I I am so into it. and Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp who have really kind of engineered this um this movement. Um there is something we're going to find out that's going to really shock humanity, I think. But can I just say one other thing about this election?

[00:28:39]>> Yes, >> please. you know, when I I was um a senior in high school when Robert Kennedy ran for president and I got a phone in my bedroom and I became the um the head of students for Kennedy and I was at the ambassador on June 4th, 1968 uh when he was assassinated and you know I was inspired by this guy and like really inspired to work for him, you know, to to actually go out and work for him. And I felt something about our country, about politics, about democracy, and it it there was a feeling I had that was intense, and I've never had that feeling since.

[00:29:33]And it's really sad. And not only have I not had this feeling since, but now look at what politics has become.

[00:29:43]>> And I it it it is so sad to see that trajectory in my lifetime because I know what inspiration is. And you know, I remember Martin Luther King and how he inspired people. What happened?

[00:29:59]>> What happened?

[00:30:00]>> That gave me chills. That made me sad.

[00:30:02]It really did make me sad because you you are talking about the era of politics when the Kennedys were were royalty, you know, and we're we're not we're not there anymore. Even the you know, I don't want to go too deep in the Kennedy family, but you know, we we're dealing with a lot. But Mark, I do have good news for you. I do have the Batman uh the Batman that I can I know I can pull up as >> this is this is not, by the way, this is not a Spencer ad. This was a film a film director. Yes. Sorry. So, this is not Spencer. Uh, yeah. Whatever.

[00:30:35]>> Right. Thank you.

[00:30:44]>> Please. I'm begging you. There's homeless drug addicts in front of the schools. My children aren't safe.

[00:30:51]>> Look, if you were a transgender migrant, I could get you a free [ __ ] >> Let's move the drug addicts closer.

[00:30:58]>> Bass already solved crime. my endorser.

[00:31:01]Next, >> please. I just want to rebuild my home.

[00:31:19]It's been over a year.

[00:31:26]>> Mom, look.

[00:31:38]This is a machine. If we want to burn this town to the ground, THROW THAT.

[00:31:45]>> I JUST WATCHED THAT IN real time. That is crazy. He has so much support that people are making these type of videos on his behalf. That's nuts. And if we had the clips of the debate, Harvey's right. He won the debate going away.

[00:31:58]>> He won the debate. Um, we will see. Um, LA is in for uh more of a rough ride. I mean, it just is. And um, God, it's sad because this when this city was great, this I mean, Lauren, I think you're too young. I know you're too young, but Mark, the 84 Olympics in this town, >> unbelievable. I believe I can I have I have such me I telling you as recently as 2015 was I thought specifically downtown LA I can tell the story after story was just you could see it on a trajectory I mean we were we were Disney center and just >> yeah this all people are moving there >> I had I had at least eight single women who had moved downtown over Hollywood, over the west side because they were so excited about the the vibe and the culture that was downtown LA. And now they they wouldn't be caught dead after six o'clock downtown. In fact, they probably would be caught dead. So, >> you want one debate clip that I just pulled? Yeah. One. Okay. Let's let's >> We'll end on that. How's that?

[00:33:15]>> Yeah. Hold on. Let me just grab the All right. I guess this is when he was called a MAGAR Republican, >> correct?

[00:33:24]>> Okay. Yes.

[00:33:25]>> I'm not sure how to respond to that vision of Los Angeles. This is a MAGA Republicans's idea of what Los Angeles looks like. This is this is really not this.

[00:33:37]>> I'm not sure how to respond to that vision.

[00:33:40]>> Sorry that he No, no, that was a moment.

[00:33:44]>> That was a moment.

[00:33:46]>> No, that was that was the moment. He didn't respond any other way to that.

[00:33:49]Oh, >> just the mo the the mockery.

[00:33:52]>> Just the well.

[00:33:54]>> And it it was so genuine. It was not It was You couldn't rehearse that. That was just I've been there in court and I've had to restrain myself. So >> there was one the other day where it was like Spencer on the hills and it was like look Spencer's always been into geopolitics. He was like comparing like you know they're never going to get along. They're going to be like Israel and Iran and they're like man he always knew. And I was like, "What is going on?" But it was, yeah, entertaining. And I I wish him well. I I'm I'm happy for him and Heidi and their family. I mean, you know, >> you know, Heidi won't come back to LA.

[00:34:27]She's so traumatized. They're live.

[00:34:29]She's in Carperia until uh they get their house rebuilt, >> you know. And and I just one other thing like, you know, we were talking about you can't get permits to rebuild your house. I mean, it's so difficult for some of these people. And what I'm being told is there are insurance companies that are saying, "We're not going to pay you any money until you get architectural plans, >> right?

[00:34:54]>> And architectural plans can easily cost $10,000."

[00:34:58]And a lot of these people don't have $10,000. They don't they're they're living hand-tomouth. They they have they still may have a mortgage and they have to find a place to live. So they're going under. And here my friend Dan Brun and a hundred other architects were willing to donate their services and the damn thing died in the city. It's outrageous what's going on here. I'm sorry for being upset, but I'm just upset.

[00:35:26]>> I I'd be the same way. Next time though, aliens. Okay.

[00:35:30]>> Okay. I'm in I'm down with that.

[00:35:31]>> Okay.

[00:35:32]>> Thanks you too. I appreciate >> you guys. Hey guys.