This case demonstrates how individuals with legal knowledge and influence can manipulate criminal investigations by accessing crime scenes, tampering with evidence, and using their positions to delay justice, highlighting the importance of proper evidence preservation and judicial oversight in ensuring fair legal proceedings.
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India woke up Thursday morning to a news that everybody had not just been waiting. ing for but had been hoping for. Giribal Singh, former judge and mother-in-law of Thuisha Sharma is now set for custody. This after the Madhya Pradesh High Court cancelled the trial court's decision to grant her anticipatory bail. To remind you, Tuisha Sharma was found dead in the most suspicious of circumstances in the house of Giribbala Singh, a former district judge. Her son, Sam Singh, the husband of Twisha, was absconding. He fled from the scene of crime almost immediately after his wife was found dead. The biggest scandal in all of this has been the fact that Giribal Singh was given anticipatory bail even before Tisha's family was able to get the police in Bopal to file an FIR. The Madhya Pradesh police or rather the Bhopal police has come under strong criticism not just for the delay in filing the FIR but also grave procedural lapses like not providing the alleged belt used for what they claim is Tisha's suicide a theory that the family contests. The family says Tisha was murdered but that alleged belt was not even provided at the time of the first autopsy.
Now remember that Giribal Singh has only brought disrepute to herself in interviews including with me. She revealed her basic cruelty, her basic misogyny, resorting to slandering her dead daughter-in-law.
She even said bizarre things like calling abortion cruelty, like talking about how Trisha didn't water the plants. And above all today, as Girib Bala Singh's bail is cancelled, it is important to remember that of the 46 phone calls she made after her daughter-in-law died, not even one was to the police. Instead, as we have shown, Giribala Singh even called the beauty parlor with Wisha went on the day she was found dead to retrieve the CCTV footage there. She similarly called the CCTV technician to get hold of the footage in her own residence. Was she trying to either erase or manipulate or plant evidence? That's the big question before the CBI today. In a moment from now, we'll be talking to Tisha's brother Major Harshit Sharma and his wife Rashi for their first responses to this big big development. I'm Bark Kadat. You're with the Mojo story. The CBI has spent the day at Giri Bala Singh's residence in Bhopal. The game is over for Girib Bala Singh who has clearly tried her darnest knowing every trick in the book as a former district judge to manipulate the law to her advantage. She called press conferences where she lied. She indulged in character assassination of Thisha Sharma. But eventually the law caught up with her and as Swisha's father today said canon and the law is equal for all even for former judges and practicing lawyers.
There are a maze of questions around Giribala Singh's actions and the Madhya Pradesh High Court today while deciding to cancel the bail. Actually the judgment came in the middle of the night focused on seven unexplained injuries on Twisha's body. Four on the left arm, one on the ring finger and one on the head.
The nature of these injuries frankly point to an assault. Maybe Tisha trying to defend herself. There's also another important piece of news before I introduce major harsh and Rashi. The family has shared with us that the last call made by Thuisha or rather the last call between Thisha and her parents was at 5 minutes past 10 and not 41 minutes past 9 as earlier was indicated in the FIR fired by the CBI. This means that there were just 15 minutes between the time that Tisha spoke to her parents and the time Samar Singh, her husband, claims that she took her own life. Why in those 15 minutes would Thisha suddenly resort to taking her own life?
Doesn't the nature of injuries increasingly suggest an assault? And therefore, should this case still be treated like a suicide or this is increasingly wearing all the marks of a murder? Let me introduce two very special people on the program today. I want to welcome back Major Harshid Sharma, the brother of Twisha. He's been in in many ways at the forefront of valiantly fighting for justice for his sister. Even in the private recording made by Thuisha's family when Tuisha was still alive. He's the one you can hear confronting Girala Singh for her absolute misogyny and awful words that she used for Thisha. And I also want to welcome Rashi Abbrol to the program.
Rashi is Major Harshett's wife and you have seen her on our platform as well as other channels also speaking out for justice for her sister-in-law. Uh the other thing to note is that you know we have been so focused on on Twisha and a marriage that went terribly wrong. Major Harshit and Rashi are also only recently married just a few months ago and they're having to deal with all of this this grief this anguish this rage this loss so many emotions. uh Major Harshid and uh Rashi must be going through at this point. So I really thank you once again from the bottom of my heart uh for speaking to us at this time. More power to you and your family. Um I'll start with you Major Harshett. Um nothing can bring your sister back. I and I and you know that pain will live with you all your life. But your first thoughts at Giribala Singh finally the law catching up with her. How does it feel?
>> Ma'am, of course it feels good. But the fact that such an obvious decision took good 14 days is again a slap on the very system that we are trying to challenge.
A very obvious decision that could have been taken the first instance these things had come out. We were screaming our way through this.
We are being termed as setting narratives but those narratives are turning out to be facts and on the same facts she has been finally denied the very bail that was granted to her and you're absolutely right major harsh before I get Rashi in talking about the system uh there are so many things to call out in the system the trial court that gave her the bail even before the FIR was registered the fact that your family had to run from pillar to post to get that FIR booked. Uh I know what the women went through in your family when they went to the Mahila Tana to try and get that FIR book. Uh the fact that and I wonder how concerned you are about this. The fact that she had access to the scene of crime because the whole house is the scene of crime and she could erase evidence, she could plant evidence, you know, she can do she could have done anything in the time that has been lost. So I want your reactions to that. Major Hush. Um, this person has held a degree of forensics site management.
I would now call it forensic site crime site manipulation and she holds a degree in that. The fact that says this woman was allowed in her house for good 12 to 14 days moving freely up and down. The very fact that the uh terrace was never sealed and was given free access stating that it's an open area and it cannot be sealed. That was the first thing that I shared with them. How is it possible for you to not seal the uh scene of crime and those people are still staying there?
Of course, it is going to be a challenge. We are already taking it that most of the evidence that could have gone our way is already lost.
>> Now it is to actually cater for this for these things. The fact that this this woman was allowed free access and uh whatever that she wanted to do, she had already done it.
So the focus should be on this >> and I'll come to that. I just want first thoughts from Rashi as well. Rashi you have been in tears uh you know we've been speaking through the last few days.
Do you feel a little bit more prepared for what lies ahead now >> just just at least at least Girabala is going to go into custody.
Mom again um we I believe she has kind of prepared us herself. Uh considering the fact that there was not a single call made by her Namaste Shanji.
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Okay, I think we seem to have lost uh the connection to Major Harshit and Rashi there and I'm sure they'll reconnect uh in just a moment. Let's Oh, there they are. Yeah, sorry Rashi, we lost you briefly. Go ahead, >> ma'am. the fact that nobody was present at the merchy herself. The fact that she decided to come um um I mean she decided to come to a press conference after her son's bail got rejected and then just begin with slandering her deceased daughter-in-law. I mean she has prepared us herself and the fact that she's gotten arrested. I mean again as everyone's been mentioning as harsh said as my father-in-law said though it's a small victory but it's a quite a delayed one but again in that same line we do hope that this continues in the same path to justice and we have been prepared because you know the accusations coming from her the narrative said by her Mrs. Girbala and Mr. summer is absolutely baseless and full of lies. So to see that she is preparing us in a manner that yeah this is all going to come our way. She will leave no stone unturned to bring or point fingers at her deceased daughter-in-law to anyone to use her influence to control the situation to get out of it. So we're quite prepared and we are willing to go to the end uh for justice as long as as as long as it would take us and the entire family to.
So that is all mom but again it's quite a delayed one but we're hoping this continues in the right direction as it is uh given.
>> Yeah. Uh just before I come to major harsh on the timeline Rashi I have one other question for you. as a young as a young woman a new bride uh you know yourself uh the women in the family Tisha's family have really been along with Major Harshett and and and of course uh his his father at the forefront of so many of these fights and as women you've had to hear some really terrible things said about another woman in this case your sister-in-law uh you know whether whether whispers about her morality uh the the private audio tape that we've all heard Now that your family was able to record shows Giribala Singh saying absolutely god-awwful things you know uh she has come into public and lied and character assassinated Twisha as a woman I just wonder leaving everything else as a young woman Rashi it must have made your blood boil >> ma'am it sickens me it sickens me to see a woman uh with qualification like hers as Mrs. Gibbala's uh the sophistication that she carries and the way she goes about um it sickens me ma'am that women of her qualification are still around us still speaking and thinking like that. In fact I've also had I mean not everybody but I've had the chance uh unfortunate chance to also listen to her sister Mrs. Giribala Singh's sister speak and that was absolutely sickening. Ma'am, I I am very very fortunate just like others are and there are plenty others who are not fortunate as I am I would say ma'am openly that we have parents I have parents I have in-laws and I have a family where we do not have to be worried about things and about such things but the fact that there are women like Mrs. Gir Bala Singh and her sister.
It's horrific mom and it it just complet it's not even anything that I'm shocked about because there are plenty other women like her still living. But the fact that she's a judge, she still uh continues to be in that position. She still continues to go about her chores and her work and the fact that she carries such a mentality. I cannot speak much more but the fact that it's absolutely horrific and disgusting.
These people are progressive on paper but regressive in nature.
>> She's holding so many degrees. What is the point of it all when your thought process and uh your statements, your judgments are like this? It is sickening to see and to hear.
I think that's really well said that progressive on progressive on paper but regressive in in in reality. You know major harsh Rashi mentioned Giribbala Singh's sister. This sister actually has a key role in this case because uh in the court the AG argued while asking for Giribala's bail to be cancelled that the postmortem uh could have been the first one could have been influenced because Giribbala Singh's sister was present. So I just wonder if you want to say a little bit about that.
>> She has two sisters ma'am. The first one being the one that uh my wife was just talking about. Uh I do not know her profession exactly but she could be heard in the same clip. Uh you know supporting Gibbala in whatever wild statements that she's trying to justify.
So I feel the mentality that they hold is not just one person holding it. It is the possibly the nature that they always had. The other sister who is a doctor, she was very well there and the first call that was made though I'm not supposed to actually discuss many of the things so I would just avoid it but she was very well present at a site that she can handle things and use her position and use her uh you know the fact that she's a doctor to their advantage. um the fact that uh one of the doctors again as we could cannot speak much but ma'am it's uh I'm a doctor myself and uh when I spoke to Mrs. Gibbala that I need to speak to the doctor at the hospitals that you've taken Trisha to I was handed over and I mean the phone was given to a doctor and when I tried to you know explain the doctor that please continue with your procedure as it's supposed to be considering there are problems in the family the first thing I was told that I am a family member myself and I forced the family member who's a doctor who happens to be a doctor I asked I need to speak to the doctor who's treating the patient who's had the casualty >> and yet there There was no response at the end but I was handed I was given the phone. The phone was given to one of the sisters who happens to be a doctor of Mrs. Giribbala and she tried to mislead me and my entire family regarding the situation pertaining to Mrs. Pisha Sharma. So the fact that they all have been together trying to mislead us, trying to uh you know I mean I believe it is there it comes to their nature to you that they can defend their sons and their actions which are again absolutely horrific again I would say but it doesn't take them less than a second to come point fingers at somebody else and they will not leave any chance to you know defame to accuse you and slander you right, left, and center. So, this is I this is what I've learned lately that this is how they are and this is how they present themselves.
>> I I know that maybe you don't want to discuss too many details, but I think it's a really critical piece of information that one of the sisters is a doctor because I think a lot of people have been wondering how the sister could have been present at the time of the postmortem and she clearly used the fact that she was a doctor to be present at that hospital. So, thank God a second autopsy has been done. Major Harashit I want to come to timelines. You have said from the first day and as is every other family member as is every friend of Twish I've interviewed to that this could not be a suicide. Now the timelines become really two three things become really important facts wise. One is that the last call between Thisha and I think your mother is at 5 minutes past 10 and we actually have the call logs that that we have shown on our channel that show this. Samart Singh her husband who ran away uh claimed that Twisha took her own life at 10:20. So one how will somebody who's planning to take their own life do this in some 15 minutes. I mean the timelines become very important. Secondly, we interviewed the owner of the beauty parlor where Twisha went on the day that she was found dead and the parlor woman not just told her told us that she seemed very like she always does no visible signs of any extra distress. Uh Gir she confirmed that Girib Bala Singh called her and asked about the CCP footage in the parlor and then a group of lawyers were sent to get the CCTV. To me, this is the clearest signal that Giribbala Singh had something to hide and maybe the parlor footage contradicted her claims of suicide. So, I want you to talk about these two things. The timeline 10:05 is the is the time that I think your mother speaks to her. You can hear or she could hear Sam yelling in the background. By 10:20, Sam claims that Twisha has taken her life. But there are seven unexplained injuries on Twisha's body and I'm sorry this must be so painful to talk about but in the interest of justice for Thisha we have to talk about it so I apologize in in advance. So Major Hashid let's talk about this suicide theory. So ma'am the first thing uh the timeline 10:05 was the last call wherein my sister was already you know crying that she's uh you know not in a good mood according to my mother because I was not on the call the call was hung up when had entered the room I would call it a room because she must have entered some space whatever space that is because we have not seen the CCTV Now when she when this guy had entered the phone was cut off. That is the only piece of information that we have.
>> Abruptly abruptly. Abruptly cut.
>> Abruptly cut off.
>> Was it like somebody was snatching the phone or was it like she just hung up because she didn't want to talk in front?
>> I am not sure ma'am. It was just like somebody enters and the call got cut. That is the piece of information we have. Her actions past that were just calling them up wildly trying to connect to Geralbala, trying to connect to Sam, trying to connect to anybody.
I think these two people only call after three four calls the first call is picked up by and said and she had gone up down whatever >> no one minute at 10:05 no one minute who said anyone at what time >> at around 10:15 10:15 10:17 because I think and that is when she has actually exclaimed >> she has said this to who? She has said this to her >> to my mother I think.
>> Yes.
>> So if at 10:15 or so Girib Bala Singh is claiming to your mother at 10:20 Sam Singh is claiming that Kusha took her own life then there's already a problem in this sequencing one but so many contradictions. Again I really want to discuss these things but I cannot. The fact that she said keyh she has gone up first. It is I do not understand it at all. It is something they are trying to they have made varied comments varied statements which are contradictory to themselves.
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Uh uh nevertheless moving on the timeline clearly indicates that there were there must have been some scuffle between them and whatever that has happened has happened after that. The fact that they have not released a CCTV of anybody going up only Disha going up and nobody else going up and suddenly three people are getting her down. This in itself is testimony enough by they're definitely trying to hide something. the fact that she had to go out of her way to send I will not call them lawyers but goons to send uh their goons to that place and just demand something which is not rightfully theirs and they have no authority to do to do it in whatsoever condition. Let's just call it a suicide for once. Why would you go out of your way to cover something up which is supposed to be an accident or maybe which is supposed to be an incident. You are trying to cover up so many things and make and then asking us to believe that it's a suicide.
How can how will we ever come to this conclusion? You have gone out of your way to destroy evidence. You have gone out of your way to control things. You have gone out of your way to threaten people.
Is this are these actions done by somebody who has just you know who is griefstricken or possibly just um you know going through a situation when somebody has done something.
>> I'm also no they have not >> Mrs. Geralbala had mentioned in case it would have h had happened in the daylight she would have called the police or ambulance but since it happened at at night she decided to take I mean that was something I could not simply grasp >> phone call that this person has made to my mother from her end is at 11:00 around >> and between these uh between 10 5 and 11 we have made I think 20 30 calls to this woman my wife my mother both of them no Not a single call was being picked up.
Hardly two calls were picked up all throughout this time.
>> The only thing is the station is about 50 mters from her. The police talk is about 50 m, not even 50 m walking distance that anybody who is like slouching also will reach in uh within a minute. Did not happen to call them. And the fact in between all those calls the the answer that came to us was we were trying to help her and in between that time she had called about 15 to 20 odd people during this time is calling people helping her.
I have a lot of questions. You said first you said that you believe a scuffle and by scuffle I think what you mean is you believe that Sam Singh may have hit her and Tisha may have tried to defend herself that could explain the injuries because when you look at the fact that she was she was hit on the head that could only be somebody hitting her.
Uh let me sorry to cut you off. The contusion on the left side of her head, left or right side of her head is again uh left side is again anti-motm.
>> She had gone for a head massage before this. Any person who has must have had an injury before will not go for a head massage. She has gone for that means the injury was never there at that point.
after that she has gotten that injury because of whatever that has happened and just to cover it up they have just making whatever stories that they can come up with and I think the head injury the injury on the ring finger four injuries on the left arm these seven injuries do not speak to suicide that's my very uh considered assessment but I want to come back to the fact that as You said that between 10:05 and 11 you all keep calling and in the in between you say that at one point Giribala does manage to speak I think to to your mother and Rashi did you also speak to her in that one hour?
>> Yes ma'am I did.
>> Do you do you remember what time that was? Uh mom again in between this time we were constantly calling and I my mother-in-law she was absolutely uh devastated and she could not hold herself just to hear what has happened.
So I I was the one then who just picked up the call and I was speaking to Mrs. Giral. was trying to call her again possibly for every three calls made she would just pick up the call and very casually answer and the first call it you know she answered mine was uh she doesn't have a call she's not breathing and I'm like what are you really saying amama because you know as pushadi used to call her we said amma what are you really saying and that is something I can never forget then she would just abruptly cut the call without having me said something or having answered my questions or query she would just cut the call abruptly Then we would again keep calling again no answer again call her and then possibly you know she would just uh she just told the last call that she said it that she's no more and that too very casually and that is the last call which was I made was to Mrs. Girala Singh at the end when they had reached the hospital so in between they possibly took her to the hospital then they just reached there suddenly say this has happened that is the last time and that time also I'm like I do not want to speak to you I need to speak to the treating doctor so very casually the way she had portrayed and addressed to our queries I mean I I just could not understand how would she be so so casual about the entire situation honestly I just >> I I just want to show the if we can just for one minute show the CCTV footage of that of the residence. Uh today Nana who's a cousin of your cousin Nenna told us that she believes uh can we show the CCTV if the if the network isn't fine we can take it off but could we please show the the CCTV I'm saying this to my producers who are hopefully going to respond. Uh I I just want to ask you Nana said to us Nana said to us that there are other CCTV sources also that haven't yet come into the public domain right but when we look at this CCTV footage Major Harshett what strikes you as very odd when you look at this because on one hand she's saying to your mother so on the other hand she's casually saying at some point to Rashi that she is no more there's no pulse not once Does she call the police? I mean, it is extraordinary. Not once, she's been a judge. Her son is a lawyer. Not once does she call the police. Right. What is most suspicious to you when you look at this footage? And do you believe there is other footage that hasn't yet come out into the public domain?
>> Definitely, ma'am. There are so many cameras in that house. I'm sure they have not released it on purpose. The first thing which which is very odd to me is the level of calm this person has.
It is not something panicky. There is no sense of panic in her. She's moving very calm, composed, calculatively as to she knows what is she doing. Even this time this woman is not picking up uh you know any of my any of my mother's call and has managed to call so many people. It is not panic which I see in her. It is calculative steps that I see in her. The fact I've already said this on your show, the only person who looks a little in panic is the one person who has called probably the third person.
>> The first person that this uh these people have called for help is the cousin who lives about two houses apart.
You have people living in your home who can very well help you in a state of emergency.
>> Your house health. H well I think we just uh lost that's okay we just we just lost Major Harshit and um and Rashi somebody took me off also there I'm back uh we just lost briefly Major Harashit and Rashi but they'll reconnect in the meantime in the meantime just to uh could you please turn your could you could the producers turn their mics off to me that I'd be really appreciative of it thank you um I want to as As Major Harshit and and Rashi reconnect, remind everybody of this bizarre lady who is set for jail. I hope for a long time. Uh the things she said, she and I got into many arguments and one was when I asked her, "What do you mean by saying Twisha was liberal?"
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You told ANI that your daughter-in-law had had liberal views. What did you mean by that? As if that's as if that's a bad thing. LET ME LET ME READ OUT LET ME READ OUT YOUR your statement to you.
Within 5 months, I realized that she held quite liberal views. On the 17th, the moment she received the confirmation of her pregnancy, her entire demeanor changed and so on. Why is having liberal views a bad thing? And was she taunted for carrying somebody else's baby? See, you have asked three questions and you want me want a single answer. Okay, the first let me answer the last question first. You said that I stated that she had liberal views. True, she had liberal views and everybody has a right to a liberal view. We are all liberal women of a liberal age. That's not a fault.
But a WhatsApp conversation, a one-sided WhatsApp conversation and WhatsApp messages and conversations of a person who is under treatment. What weightage would you give to that? She has in the space of 5 months she has visited her home. Each time she had come back stating that she fought with her brother. Her mother said that you are jealous of Harshit. She her she had some allegations against her father. Why was she each time going and then coming back? She had all the >> Because women because women are conditioned to stay in marriages that don't make them happy.
That is the cultural conditioning.
All right. uh you know there's so many things Rashi was just saying uh that her blood her that she's sickened by Kir Bala and I want to say to you Rashi that I was so so uh sickened in that interview that I did with her that I really if I could have leapt into the TV screen and personally just just I just wanted to do this to her at all points sorry we got we got briefly cut off when Major Harshett you were telling me about how calm she she looked and she didn't call for help um so just Let's go back to that.
>> The very odd thing that I find in that video is the fact the level of calmness and composure that this person is showing. And on an interview, she goes on to say that she was in a state of panic. It is not a state of panic that she was in. Those calls were not uh those calls that she was trying to make was trying to just cover things up possibly.
>> The fact that she uh while you know they're towing in front of the CCTV, they're trying to resuscitate her and you have no value addition to it. You're just walking about calmly and composedly as if you have you are directing the entire thing. If you wanted to, you could have very well be involved in the whatever process that I'm trying to help, but you chose to go inside your room, pick something up, and just move out.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um Rashi, you spoke to her a couple of times or at least once that night and then later, as you said, u to her sister who is a doctor. Um, how did she sound when you spoke to her? You said she was very casual. How did she sound when you spoke to her?
>> Mom, very calm. I mean, I didn't hear any panic of franticness which one usually would have especially if you are in such a situation. Uh, irrespective whether that's your daughter-in-law, your daughter or even unrelated. I mean that is not the calmness one would expect. Um I wouldn't expect even if it would be somebody a lay man or somebody a stranger on the road and I come across it I still wouldn't be as calm as she had been that night on the call's mom >> those panic that panic that she must have had would have been uh you know just while she was calling those influential people don't worry we'll handle it all and that is possibly the reason she got that assurance and that is when uh you know that panic was only there to just cover things up, not to actually, you know, help in any manner possible.
>> I I you know, and she also went on record and said horrible things about Twisha's decision to terminate her pregnancy. I got into a big fight with her about that. I bring this up because this was specifically mentioned in court that she was Trisha was driven to do this. She was taunted. I asked Giribal a direct question. Did you taunt your daughter-in-law? she flat out lied. But later the audio tape that you all recorded showed that she was lying. Uh when you think about, you know, that that decision to terminate the the pregnancy, her friends have been telling me she wanted kids. She wanted to be a mom. It's just that the environment was just so horrible that she didn't feel she could go through it through through with it.
>> Of course, ma'am, how can you procreate in an hostile environment? We are not actually uh you know genetically also we are not supposed to do that. When we find the environmental uh safe environment that is when you try and procreate the she always wanted kids.
Ma'am it was never the case that she uh you know as they claim that she does not want a household normal household is a very absurd thing to even hear the fact that she chose to let go of everything that was there. Her account Instagram account is private ma'am. Any person who wants a glamorous life will never have an in private account on Instagram.
>> Her her friend told me that she was made to close down that account by Giribala and the family. I also heard horrible things like how she was asked to lose weight by these people. How she was sometimes told denied food. I mean the details coming out are just blood curdling.
>> Ma'am, uh this conversation actually happened with I'll continue with that conversation and then I'll move on to this.
uh the fact that you know even if she wanted that kid she wanted that kid and considering all those fights that were going on she never wanted the kid to be the reason to save the marriage. She wanted the marriage to be saved and then procreate so that you know the kid can be raised in a nice environment. But these people never provided her with that. The allegations that were put on on a pregnant woman if you tell her that this kid is not mine. You have slept with 60 70 odd people. It's such a I I'm saying this right now and it is burning my I cannot just say it. when things >> that is what was said to her.
>> That is what she said with the the things that they have been telling her.
The this husband, how can somebody stoop down to that level to tell a person who is actually carrying your baby and say things like this to her? the fact that she chose to share it share it with us only on 17 when things got out of her hand and that is when she told her >> how can I how can I go pay to Bank statement.
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>> I think Rashi is willing to come in.
Yeah.
>> M as Mrs. Gerbala tried to you know she tried to put out a story oh that oh probably my daughter-in-law she was on such medicine she had such illnesses I really want to say I think she possibly I do not want to talk about her but I think Twishadi did what any sane human would do in such an environment to put out a story or a narrative oh you know probably she wanted kids and then suddenly she didn't wanted kids please Mrs. Geralbala do put out the real story why she didn't want it to continue. That is the reason. The reason is that you never gave her the right environment.
You never made her feel safe in your home.
>> You literally denied her of basics such as food. And I think Mrs. Tisha was absolutely sane enough to do what was right and wrong. She knew what was >> in a way you forcibly you forcibly you know forced her into making this decision.
the fact that you could not get any prerequisites for it >> and then >> uh harass her by making statements like these. They have forced her into it.
>> Yeah, absolutely. I I Rashia, I'll direct this to you because you're a doctor. One of the big ar fights I had with Giribala is because she was making all these sweeping statements about, oh, she has Tisha has schizophrenic, right? And then she claimed that she's a drug user. Now the audio tape clearly shows that she admits that her son is the one who used drugs. He lost two years in college because of that and she even says that she conceds that Tisha one of the reasons Thisha didn't want to go through with the pregnancy is because of the husband was a drug user. But I said to her I said whether or not somebody is seeing a doctor whether or not they are being treated for it that is information confidential between the doctor and the patient.
that doctor should lose his license. So I just put your thoughts as a doctor Rashi.
>> Absolutely ma'am. I'm glad actually I just want to point out the fact that you did raise that question. You raised a couple of questions to her. First regarding that to have the baby or not that is in our country as well in in a country like India. The second thing the fact that these details are pretty much privy or confidential between a patient and a doctor. So ma'am it's pretty easy for anybody and possibly a woman like Mrs. Gibbala to use or to you know defame a disease just because there's nothing when you have nothing you start this is actually pretty much common in our country. If you have nothing you start you know slandering your wife daughter-in-laws or you start slandering people you've gotten into your home. So ma'am coming as a doctor ma'am these details I'm sure even I believe there were certain medical prescriptions that were circulated I think she commented that these were the medical treatment papers provided to the couple so they had also been circulated uh I believe in the media ma'am there has been nothing mentioned as schizophrenia or even there's written query adjustment disorder which is something even I possibly could have if I'm posted if I'm at a location which is pretty I'm pretty much aloof or pretty much far away from my family and I'm in a cold deserted region. I possibly can also have that.
So to possibly stay that that that adjustment disorder could be schizophrenia because you have nothing to say. So you start speaking such ill things about someone who's already you know passed away that just shows mom that she had nothing. Also possibly if the doctor has there could be another possibility that the doctor could she must possibly might have an accessibility to the doctor that she was Mrs. Gibbala herself was taking Twisha too that that could be one reason that she's so openly but I do not think that the accusation she's made that she could be a schizophrenic is absolutely not true ma'am I do not believe that >> no I was I just to say before you come in I wasn't saying it to say it's true I preface it by saying I think she lies >> that is what I wanted to add on we in it the first thing we want to question is the authenticity of this document the doctor who has said it uh is again one of the relative who works at the same clinic.
So the authenticity the first thing that to to question is the authenticity of that document first. Secondly ma'am if you just if you'll just go through the entire narrative that was being set by her in all her interviews realize that they are very clever people who know the law. The fact that they are choosing their words and putting it out they are trying to frame a narrative already in people's head and trying to justify the allegations that they have made. the allegation of suicide. Okay, how will you justify it? Okay, she's a six of friend. She used to do drugs. She was pushed into it. So all of those statements are very calculative statements. They are not >> I I can I can I just say I agree with you because if I'm looking at this here's what I see. I see that she's creating a story. The story is that Twisha was mentally disturbed. Oh, she had quote unquote schizophrenia. She was on drugs. And you know why she was trying to get the CCTV footage of the beauty parlor? Because the beauty parlor owner is on record saying and you can see with a street love getting ahead massage, right? So there is a narrative here of covering up the truth. The narrative is being created to manipulate the truth. That is very obvious. I don't believe a word that comes out of Girin Bala's mouth. I only asked that question because I felt that as a judge he had no business >> making a comment like that Rashid that's that's why I repeat please please don't misunderstand me I only repeated it for that >> for that purpose but major hashid I want to talk about this narrative because she's going to raise it in court her lawyers are now going to bring it in court right uh are you concerned like for example a lawyer I was interviewing he said I'm concerned that because she had access to the crime scene because she had anticipatory bail and the whole house is the crime scene. She can plant evidence tomorrow. She can go and plant I don't know marijuana that she was making claims about in Tisha's you know cupboard or room or whatever.
>> Are you concerned about that? How concerned are you about planting evidence by Girala? Ma'am, that could definitely be the case because considering if you are a forensic uh site uh expert and how to actually manipulate it and you have a degree in that, of course, you're going to put it to use. But I am hoping the investigating agencies also see to it that this woman had access to the same uh floor, same house, nobody questioning her about what is she doing inside that house. nothing uh being uh you know out of our reach. It is very much a possibility and I am sure we would uh you know uh be there would so many evidences be thrown at us that are not true at all. I just hope the investigating agencies also look into it. The very fact of the free access was given, uh, evidences were destroyed and possibly new evidences were.
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Major Harshid I have this concern so I can imagine how concerned you may uh be.
Uh can I ask you towards the end I just want to ask you uh police officers senior IPS officers that we've been talking to they believe heads must role in the Bhopal police they believe that the uh police the SHO the investigating officer should be suspended they believe the commissioner of police should be sent on leave uh they think the entire ecosystem somehow was bent before Giribal Singh till you know the whole country some of us in the media made such a is that the narrative shifted. Uh are you concerned that there was an ecosystem that was being play that would be played either with influence or some are suggesting with bribes?
>> No doubts about it ma'am. In your interview only I've said it she has an arsenal of people helping her out. There are so many people involved right from a uh constable to you know people at the higherups who are making all those decision and telling people to move like clockwork. The fact that we have been raising this voice from day one because we were facing it. The fact that you were told not just by one person but so many people up the chain. I have not just it not just verbal statements that I'm making. Ma'am, I have risen complaints in the human rights forum the very day that I heard these words where my family was fighting and I was given an assurance by somebody to fast and then when I was calling the person who was supposed to he the very person said that is when I've raised complaints no this is not happening I am not taking this I am going to comprise a complaint we have written complaints So many of them not just one we have about 60 70 odd letters that we have written ma'am >> who all >> through this time >> who all did you write these 60 70 letters to >> ma'am all every person concerned each and every single authority I have written complaints even to the human rights because it's a human right violation for us to be not heard and not taken an FIR >> the replies Yeah. The reply >> the reply that I had gotten had no inputs whatsoever. I had taken half an hour of my time even while my family was fighting to write an official complaint because I was very hopeful. The reply that I've gotten was just a cut copy paste of my same message and just one single line of above it action being taken.
Awful. Just awful. How did you how did you handle your emotions in this time?
Your sister is dead. She's your elder sister. She used to call you beta. You don't have a moment to mourn her passing because you are immediately thrown into this fight for justice and nobody is listening to you. The FIR isn't being registered. 60 70 letters you're having to write. You have no space to process your emotion. I don't know h how did you keep going and what was the toughest thing in these last 14 days? Major >> ma'am the time of grief has not yet come.
I am not griefstricken as of now. I just want you know sometimes to actually process this completely. I am not yet even at uh there have been times when I wake up in the morning and just feel it's a nightmare that I was going through and then I happen to just open YouTube and just see everything and it just strikes me okay no it is not I'm still living this nightmare and I have to go through this again so it has happened not once quite a lot of times whenever I wake up and feel like it's just a bad dream possibly it is not happening >> the only thing that has went with me the biggest challenge firstly was for for us to be heard, ma'am, from the very beginning. And you and so many other people have just come up to help us out with this, for us to at least be heard.
That was the biggest challenge because we were trying to speak. We knew what was happening. We knew what was going wrong, but nobody was listening. I think that was the biggest challenge there.
And that is where you guys actually came in and helped us out a lot.
>> It is our duty.
>> Yeah. Go ahead. The biggest support that I've had is again I would say my my brothers, my family and all the people who are still working taking the time out of their own busy schedule to just help with the case, giving their inputs, watching interviews, giving us inputs.
Okay, she has said this, she has said that for us to note it is not a single uh-handed effort. It is the effort of all those who are connected to Trisha.
And yeah, that is my support system.
Rashi it must have been tough for you to see you know Harsh go through this for you to go through it yourself for a family to be faced with this you know what would you want people to understand it must have felt quite lonely at times >> um I mean again there's nothing to be understood but I mean I do not have words about it the only fact is again as harsh has mentioned we're very thankful to everyone has supported the family supported Tisha in the cause. I mean we just need again we need everyone to keep keep continuing with their support till the end because as Hashid said the basic thing that is to be heard for the procedure to be started that was the biggest challenge uh to be heard that was one biggest problem that we were facing until up until yesterday when we've heard that okay the bail uh has been rejected but up until the end it's going to be a huge battle mom it's it's still far we've realized that there's a huge influence of Mrs. Gibbala and everybody in the system you know trying to hamper the process to be done in a justful manner. So we just want everyone that it's not easy to I mean it's not easy though it's you know everybody seems to be quite tough on the exterior I've seen my entire family >> I do not believe anybody's had the chance to grieve or mourn the loss of their their daughter you know nobody's had the chance it's in between when people realize you know where the family realizes oh wait she's no more >> but nobody is able to accept it because somebody like Twisha who's always been so loving, so bold and you know, always encouraging us to do the best for ourselves and it it's pretty tough. The only thing that I can feel and I believe everybody is just anger. We're just infuriated at what has happened and why >> that question is yet to be answered and possibly >> I mean we we do not even like there's no answer can compensate for what has happened the loss that we have. So possibly we can only thank everyone.
Thank you and thank everyone for being with us and supporting us and we just request everyone to do so till the end.
>> No thanks are needed. It is really u my duty and my duty of my fraternity. Major Hasha last question for you. If this case gets tried as a suicide, you will I think not feel like justice has been done. I think you are convinced more and more and I think so so are many of us where we just lost them there. Maybe they'll reconnect. Oh, there they are. I was just saying if this case continues to be somebody was explaining to me that though it's been registered in the >> uh I'm not getting this is really sorry.
Yeah.
>> Can you hear me? Can you hear me?
>> Can you hear me? Just reconnect if you can hear me. Uh I just wanted to um ask Major Harshett that if this case is eventually continues to be tried as a suicide, I don't think that the family uh will uh will be at peace. I don't think that the family uh will feel that justice has been served. Uh let's take you through some of the things that I believe are extremely suspicious. the nature of the injuries, uh the fact that she was calling for CCTV footage from the technicians and the beauty parlor, the timelines, all of it points uh to to not suicide. Frankly, I was trying to say, I hope you can hear me now, that in the end, what will justice look like? I know it's currently registered as a dowy death, but I think you're convinced that this was murder, that there was an assault, that she was hit on the head.
This much is now established by the nature of injuries. What would justice be look like? And I know that if it continues to be treated as a suicide case, I know that you will continue to feel very angry because all of you are convinced that Tisha did not take her own life.
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Of course ma'am everything everything that we have encountered is pointing towards one direction ma'am.
>> Yeah.
>> The fact from the very beginning they have done so many things which are you know uh cannot be justified by a simple term called suicide.
>> Yeah. It is the mental harassment. The fact that uh you know you've gone to so such levels to harass somebody who is supposed to be your ardhangini and who supposed to be your babu. The fact that you know you were not uh very much satisfied with the level the shadi had gone through. The fact >> yeah your father told me and that's an important point. You see dowi demands are made in many different ways. And your father told me that at the time of the shadi she was complaining non-stop about the as they're called arrangements.
>> No doubts about it ma'am. I have actually said this in an interview. I I personally got this call.
Where is your mother? Send her right now while my mother.
>> Can you can you can you repeat the exact words please? Could you tell us?
>> Send your mother. Where is your mother?
Send just send her right away.
I will not get into the details of it.
I've been told not to. So these are the statements. I've already put it in my statement ma'am.
>> So from the very beginning you have been like this from the very beginning you were not at ease. The from the very beginning you had a lot of problems with my sister. From the very beginning you have thrashed her. You have humiliated her. You have gone to levels uh just to uh you know make her life very miserable. And on the 12th, on the night of 12th, you did something so horrific that everybody in your in your uh arsenal had to come up to save you. You had to call so many people. You had to call uh you have to do so much so much uh so many things just to cover some things. Definitely it is not suicide, ma'am. It is a murder.
Do you believe Giribbala Singh is the main is is a key accused and not just this mother covering up for her son? I mean not that that makes it any better.
I'm just wondering how you see her role.
>> No doubts about it ma'am. He's a lawyer.
She's a judge.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> You can see that in you can see that in whatever interviews also. She's a very controlling woman and she would want things to be her way. And I'm very much sure that most of the things are orchestrated at her end.
>> Yeah. I I just want to say in the end, you know, both of you have thanked us. I actually want to thank thank you, thank Rashi, thank all the wonderful women and you know, friends and cousins who have come out in the last few days. They have shown courage. They have shown emotion.
They have shown that courage is not the absence of vulnerability. Um, but courage is to be able to be strong despite vulnerability. Um, soldiers know that better than anybody else, Major. So, you don't need me to tell you that courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is not the absence of pain. Courage is going through that pain, traveling through that pain. And I think you and your family have done that so bravely. I salute you. I have already asked you, so I'm not going to ask you again. I know you must live with that feeling that I wish I brought my sister home. I just want to give you the last word. If you wanted people to remember Twisha, people now feel everybody feels they know Twisha even people who've never met her. What is that one line that you would you say that how you know one thing that everybody should remember her as?
>> Ma'am, I think it's in her name itself.
Uh Tisha uh the name it means uh I'll say it in Hindi.
She's the break of dawn.
She's that light. She's that light who just overcomes the darkness. She's that first ray of light. And the way I would want people to remember her by is by making such a you know a statement because it's a it's not just every day that whatever things are happening are happen.
So it is going to be a statement judgment and we are hoping for that and we are hoping that everybody remembers Tusha by the fact that you know she brought out this change.
I think that's beautiful that the name itself captures how you'd like us to remember her. The first ray of light, the first break of dawn. May May her memory may her memory be honored by those who did this to her getting exemplary punishment. I personally would like to see Giribala Singh in prison along with her son for a long long time.
I hope this doesn't become a tarik tarik case that stretches on for years. I don't think that's fair to the family. I think we must see exemplary punishment in a fasttracked case. And I thank you and salute you once again for your courage. Thank you, Major Hasha. Thank you, Rashi. Take care. God bless. Thank you. Thank you. Byebye.
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India woke up Thursday morning to a news that everybody had not just been waiting for but had been hoping for. Giribal Singh, former judge and mother-in-law of Thisha Sharma is now set for custody.
This after the Madhya Pradesh High Court cancelled the trial court's decision to grant her anticipatory bail. To remind you, Tisha Sharma was found dead in the most suspicious of circumstances in the house of Giribala Singh, a former district judge. Her son Samart Singh, the husband of Twisha, was absconding.
He fled from the scene of crime almost immediately after his wife was found dead. The biggest scandal in all of this has been the fact that Giribala Singh was given anticipatory bail even before Tisha's family was able to get the police in Bhopal to file an FIR. The Madhya Pradesh police or rather the Bhopal police has come under strong criticism not just for the delay in filing the FIR but also grave procedural lapses like not providing the alleged belt used for what they claim is Tisha's suicide a theory that the family contests. The family says Thisha was murdered but that alleged belt was not even provided at the time of the first autopsy.
Now remember that Giribbala Singh has only brought disrepute to herself in interviews including with me. She revealed her basic cruelty, her basic misogyny, resorting to slandering her dead daughter-in-law.
She even said bizarre things like calling abortion cruelty, like talking about how Pisha didn't water the plants.
And above all today, as Girib Bala Singh's bail is cancelled, it is important to remember that of the 46 phone calls she made after her daughter-in-law died, not even one was to the police. Instead, as we have shown, Giribala Singh even called the beauty parlor with Wisha went on the day she was found dead to retrieve the CCTV footage there. She similarly called the CCTV technician to get hold of the footage in her own residence. Was she trying to either erase or manipulate or plant evidence? That's the big question before the CBI today. In a moment from now, we'll be talking to Thrisha's brother, Major Hashid Sharma, and his wife Rashi for their first responses to this big big development. I'm Bar Kad.
You're with the Mojo story. The CBI has spent the day at Girib Bala Singh's residence in Bopal. The game is over for Girib Bala Singh who has clearly tried her darnest knowing every trick in the book as a former district judge to manipulate the law to her advantage. She called press conferences where she lied.
She indulged in character assassination of Twisha Sharma. But eventually the law caught up with her and as Swisha's father today said and the law is equal for all even for former judges and practicing lawyers.
There are a maze of questions around Giribala Singh's actions and the Madhya Pradesh High Court today while deciding to cancel the bail. Actually the judgment came in the middle of the night focused on seven unexplained injuries on Twisha's body, four on the left arm, one on the ring finger and one on the head.
The nature of these injuries frankly point to an assault. Maybe Tisha trying to defend herself. There's also another important piece of news before I introduce major harsh and Rashi. The family has shared with us that the last call made by Thuisha or rather the last call between Thisha and her parents was at 5 minutes past 10 and not 41 minutes past 9 as earlier was indicated in the FIR fired by the CBI. This means that there were just 15 minutes between the time that Tisha spoke to her parents and the time Samar Singh, her husband claims that she took her own life. Why in those 15 minutes would Tisha sadly resort to taking her own life? Doesn't the nature of injuries increasingly suggest an assault? And therefore, should this case still be treated like a suicide or this is increasingly wearing all the marks of a murder? Let me introduce two very special people on the program today. I want to welcome back Major Harshid Sharma, the brother of Twisha. He's been in in many ways at the forefront of valiantly fighting for justice for his sister. Even in the private recording made by Thisha's family when Tisha was still alive. He's the one you can hear confronting Giriala Singh for her absolute misogyny and awful words that she used for Thisha. And I also want to welcome Rashi Abro to the program. Rashi is Major Harshett's wife and you have seen her on our platform as well as other channels also speaking out for justice for her sister-in-law. Uh the other thing to note is that you know we have been so focused on on Twisha and a marriage that went terribly wrong. Major Harshett and Rashi are also only recently married just a few months ago and they're having to deal with all of this this grief this anguish this rage this loss so many emotions. uh Major Harshid and uh Rashi must be going through at this point. So I really thank you once again from the bottom of my heart uh for speaking to us at this time. More power to you and your family.
Um I'll start with you Major Harshett.
Um nothing can bring your sister back. I and I and you know that pain will live with you all your life. But your first thoughts at Giribala Singh finally the law catching up with her. How does it feel? Ma'am, of course it feels good.
But the fact that such an obvious decision took good 14 days is again a slap on the very system that we are trying to challenge.
A very obvious decision that could have been taken the first instance these things had come out. We were screaming our way through this.
We are being termed as setting narratives. But those narratives are turning out to be facts. And on the same facts she has been finally denied the very bail that was granted to her.
>> And you're absolutely right major harsh before I get Rashi in in talking about the system. Uh there are so many things to call out in the system. The trial court that gave her the bail even before the FIR was registered. The fact that your family had to run from pillar to post to get that FIR booked. Uh I know what the women went through in your family when they went to the Mahilat Khana to try and get that FIR book. Uh the fact that and I wonder how concerned you are about this. The fact that she had access to the scene of crime because the whole house is the scene of crime and she could erase evidence, she could plant evidence, you know, she can do she could have done anything in the time that has been lost. So I want your reactions to that. Major Hush. Ma'am, this person has held a degree of forensic site management.
I would now call it forensic site crime site manipulation and she holds a degree in that. The fact that this woman was allowed in her house for good 12 to 14 days moving freely up and down. The very fact that the uh terrace was never sealed and was given free access stating that it's an open area and it cannot be sealed. That was the first thing that I shared with them. How is it possible for you to not seal the uh scene of crime and those people are still staying there?
Of course, it is going to be a challenge. We are already taking it that most of the evidence that could have gone our way is already lost.
>> Now it is to actually cater for this for these things. The fact that this this woman was allowed free access and uh whatever that she wanted to do, she had already done it.
So the focus should be on this >> and I'll come to that. I just want first thoughts from Rashi as well. Rashi, you have been in tears. Uh you know we've been speaking through the last few days.
Do you feel a little bit more prepared for what lies ahead now?
>> Just just at least at least Giribala is going to go into custody.
Mom again um we I believe she has kind of prepared us herself uh considering the fact that there was not a single call made by her.
Okay, I think we seem to have lost uh the connection to Major Harshit and Rashi there and I'm sure they'll reconnect uh in just a moment. Let's Oh, there they are. Yeah, sorry Rashi, we lost you briefly. Go ahead, >> ma'am. The fact that nobody was present at the merchy herself. The fact that she decided to come um um I mean she decided to come to a press conference after her son's bail got rejected and then just begin with slandering her deceased daughter-in-law. I mean she has prepared us herself and the fact that she's gotten arrested. I mean again as everyone's been mentioning as harsh said as my father-in-law said though it's a small victory but it's a quite a delayed one but again in that same line we do hope that this continues in the same path to justice and we have been prepared because you know the accusations coming from her the narrative said by her Mrs. Girbala and Mr. Sam is absolutely baseless and full of lies. So to see that she is preparing us in a manner that yeah this is all going to come our way. She will leave no stone unturned to bring or point fingers at her deceased daughter-in-law to anyone to use her influence to control the situation to get out of it. So we're quite prepared and we are willing to go to the end for justice as as long as it would take us and the entire family to.
So that is all ma'am but again it's quite a delayed one but we're hoping now this continues in the right direction as it is being uh given >> yeah uh just before I come to major harsh on the timeline Rashi I have one other question for you as a young as a young woman a new bride uh you know yourself uh the women in the family Tisha's family have really been along with Major Harshett and and and of course uh his his father at the forefront of so many of these fights And as women, you've had to hear some really terrible things said about another woman, in this case, your sister-in-law.
Uh you know, whether whether whispers about her morality, uh the the private audio tape that we've all heard now that your family was able to record shows Giribal Singh saying absolutely god-awwful things. You know, u she has come into public and lied and character assassinated Twisha as a woman. I just wonder leaving everything else as a young woman Rashi, it must have made your blood boil.
>> Ma'am, it sickens me. It sickens me to see a woman uh with qualification like hers as Mrs. Gibbala's. Uh the sophistication that she carries and the way she goes about um it sickens me ma'am that women of her qualification are still around us still speaking and thinking like that. In fact, I've also had I mean not everybody but I've had the chance uh unfortunate chance to also listen to her sister, Mrs. Giribala Singh's sister speak and that was absolutely sickening. Ma'am, I I am very very fortunate just like others are and there are plenty others who are not fortunate as I am. I would say ma'am openly that we have parents I have parents I have in-laws and I have a family where we do not have to be worried about things and about such things but the fact that there are women like Mrs. Girib Bala Singh and her sister. It's horrific, ma'am. And it it just complet it's not even anything that I'm shocked about because there are plenty other women like her still living. But the fact that she's a judge, she still uh continues to be in that position. She still continues to go about her chores and her work and the fact that she carries such a mentality.
I cannot speak much more for the fact that it's absolutely horrific and disgusting. These people are progressive on paper but regressive in nature.
>> Well said.
>> She's holding so many degrees. What is the point of it all when your thought process and uh your statements, your judgments are like this? It is sickening to see and to hear.
I think that's really well said that progressive on uh progressive on paper but regressive in in in reality. You know major harsh Rashi mentioned Giribala Singh's sister. This sister actually has a key role in this case because uh in the court the AG argued while asking for Giribala's bail to be cancelled that the postmortem uh could have been the first one could have been influenced because Giribbala Singh's sister was present. So I just wonder if you want to say a little bit about that.
>> She has two sisters ma'am. The first one being the one that uh my wife was just talking about. Uh I do not know her profession exactly but she could be heard in the same clip uh you know supporting Gibbala in whatever wild statements that she's trying to justify.
So I feel the mentality that they hold is not just one person holding it. It is the possibly the nature that they always had. The other sister who is a doctor, she was very well there and the first call that was made though I'm not supposed to actually discuss many of the things so I would just avoid it but she was very well present at a site that she can handle things and use her position and use her uh you know the fact that she's a doctor to their advantage. um the fact that uh one of the doctors again as we could cannot speak much but ma'am it's uh I'm a doctor myself and u when I spoke to Mrs. Girbala that I need to speak to the doctor at the hospital that you've taken Trisha to. I was handed over and I mean the phone was given to a doctor and when I tried to you know explain the doctor that please continue with your procedure as it's supposed to be considering the problems in the family. The first thing I was told that I am a family member myself and I forced the family member who's a doctor who happens to be a doctor. I asked I need to speak to the doctor who's treating the patient >> and yet there was no response at the end but I was handed I was given the phone the phone was given to one of the sisters who happens to be a doctor of Mrs. Giribbala and she tried to mislead me and my entire family regarding the situation pertaining to Mrs. Pisha Sharma. So the fact that they all have been together trying to mislead us, trying to uh you know I mean I believe it is that it comes to their nature to you that they can defend their sons and their actions which are again absolutely horrific again I would say but it doesn't take them less than a second to come point fingers at somebody else and they will not leave any chance to you know defame to accuse you and slander you right, left, and center. So, this is I this is what I've learned lately that this is how they are and this is how they present themselves.
>> I I know that maybe you don't want to discuss too many details, but I think it's a really critical piece of information that one of the sisters is a doctor because I think a lot of people have been wondering how the sister could have been present at the time of the postmortem and she clearly used the fact that she was a doctor to be present at that hospital. So, thank God a second autopsy has been done. Major Harash I want to come to timelines. You have said from the first day and as is every other family member as is every friend of Twish I've interviewed to that this could not be a suicide. Now the timelines become really two three things become really important facts wise. One is that the last call between Thrisha and I think your mother is at 5 minutes past 10 and we actually have the call logs that that we have shown on our channel that show this. Sam Singh her husband who ran away uh claimed that Twisha took her own life at 10:20. So one how will somebody who's planning to take their own life do this in some 15 minutes. I mean the timelines become very important. Secondly, we interviewed the owner of the beauty parlor where Twisha went on the day that she was found dead and the parlor woman not just told her told us that she seemed very like she always does no visible signs of any extra distress. Uh Gir she confirmed that Giribala Singh called her and asked about the CCP footage in the parlor and then a group of lawyers were sent to get the CCTV. To me, this is the clearest signal that Giribala Singh had something to hide and maybe the parlor footage contradicted her claims of suicide. So, I want you to talk about these two things. The timeline 10:05 is the is the time that I think your mother speaks to her. You can hear or she could hear Sam yelling in the background. By 10:20, Sam claims that Twisha has taken her life.
But there are seven unexplained injuries on Twisha's body and I'm sorry this must be so painful to talk about but in the interest of justice for Thisha we have to talk about it so I apologize in in advance. So major hashid let's talk about this suicide theory. So ma'am the first thing uh the timeline 10:05 was the last call wherein my sister was already you know crying that she's uh you know not in a good mood according to my mother because I was not on the call the call was hung up when had entered the room I would call it a room because she must have entered some space whatever space that is because we have not seen the CCTV Now when she when this guy had entered the phone was cut off. That is the only piece of information that we have.
>> Abruptly abruptly. Abruptly cut.
>> Abruptly cut off.
>> Was it like somebody was snatching the phone or was it like she just hung up because she didn't want to talk in front?
>> I am not sure ma'am. It was just like somebody enters and the call got cut. That is the piece of information we have. Her actions past that were just calling them up wildly trying to connect to Geralbala, trying to connect to Sam, trying to connect to anybody.
I think these two people only call after three four calls the first call is picked up by Gbala and said and she had gone up down whatever >> no one minute at 10:05 no one minute who said anyone at what time >> at around 10:15 10:15 10:17 because I think and that is when she has actually exclaimed >> she has said this to who? She has said this to her >> to my mother I think.
>> Yes.
>> So if at 10:15 or so Giri Bala Singh is claiming to your mother at 10:20 Sam Singh is claiming that Kusha took her own life then there's already a problem in this sequencing one but so many contradictions. Again I really want to discuss these things but I cannot. The fact that she said keyh she has gone up first. It is I do not understand it at all. It is something they're trying to they have made varied comments, varied statements which are contradictory to themselves. Uh uh nevertheless moving on the timeline clearly indicates that there were must have been some scuffle between them and whatever that has happened has happened after that. The fact that they have not released the CCTV of anybody going up only going up and nobody else going up and suddenly three people are getting her down. This in itself is testimony enough. They're definitely trying to hide something. The fact that she had to go out of her way to send I will not call them lawyers but goons to send uh their goons to that place and just demand something which is not rightfully theirs and they have no authority to do to do it in whatsoever condition. Let's just call it a suicide for once. Why would you go out of your way to cover something up which is supposed to be an accident or maybe which is supposed to be an incident? You are trying to cover up so many things and make and then asking us to believe that it's a suicide.
How can how will we ever come to this conclusion? You have gone out of your way to destroy evidence. You have gone out of your way to control things. You have gone out of your way to threaten people.
Is this are these actions done by somebody who has just you know who is griefstricken or possibly just um you know going through a situation when somebody has done something?
>> I'm also no they're not >> Mrs. Gerbala had mentioned in case it would have h had happened in the daylight she would have called the police or ambulance but since it happened at at night she decided to take I mean that was something I could not simply grasp >> phone call that this person has made to my mother from her end is at 11:00 around >> and between these uh between 10 5 and 11 we have made I think 20 30 calls to this woman my wife my mother both of them >> no Not a single call was being picked up. Hardly two calls were picked up all throughout this time.
>> The only thing is the station is about 50 m from her. The police talk is about 50 m not even 50 m walking distance that anybody who is like slouching also will reach in uh within a minute. Did not happen to call them. And the fact in between all those calls the the answer that came to us was we were trying to help her and in between that time she had called about 15 to 20 odd people during this time is calling people helping her.
I have a lot of questions. You said first you said that you believe a scuffle and by scuffle I think what you mean is you believe that Sam Singh may have hit her and Tisha may have tried to defend herself that could explain the injuries because when you look at the fact that she was she was hit on the head that could only be somebody hitting her right. Uh let me sorry to cut you off.
The contusion on the left side of her head, left or right side of her head >> is again uh left side is again anti-motm.
>> She had gone for a head massage before this. Any person who has must have had an injury before will not go for a head massage. She has gone that means the injury was never there at that point.
after that she has gotten that injury because of whatever that has happened and just to cover it up they have just making whatever stories that they can come up with and I think the head injury the injury on the ring finger four injuries on the left arm these seven injuries do not speak to suicide that's my very uh considered assessment but I want to come back to the fact that as You said that between 10:05 and 11 you all keep calling and in the in between you say that at one point Giribala does manage to speak uh I think to to your mother and Rashi did you also speak to her in that one hour?
>> Yes ma'am I did.
>> Do you do you remember what time that was? Uh ma'am again in between this time we were constantly calling and I my mother-in-law she was absolutely uh devastated and she could not hold herself just to hear what had happened.
So I I was the one then who just picked up the call and I was speaking to Mrs. Giral. was trying to call her again possibly for every three calls made she would just pick up the call and very casually answer and the first call that you know she answered mine was uh she doesn't have a call she's not breathing and I'm like what are you really saying amama because you know as pishadi used to call her we said amma what are you really saying and that is something I can never forget then she would just abruptly cut the call without having me said something or having answered my questions or query she would just cut the call abruptly Then we would again keep calling again no answer again call her and then possibly you know she would just uh she just told the last call that she said it that she's no more and that too very casually and that is the last call which was I made was to Mrs. Girabala Singh at the end when they had reached the hospital so in between they possibly took her to the hospital then they just reached there suddenly say this has happened that is the last time and that time also I'm like I do not want to speak to you I need to speak to the treating doctor so very casually the way she had portrayed and addressed to our queries I mean I I just could not understand how would she be so so casual about the entire situation honestly I just >> I I just want to show the if we can just for one minute show the CCTV footage of that of the residence. Uh today NA who's a cousin of your cousin Na told us that she believes uh can we show the CCTV if the if the network isn't fine we can take it off but could we please show the the the CCTV I'm saying this to my producers who are hopefully going to respond. Uh I I just want to ask you Nana said to us Nana said to us that there are other CCTV sources also that haven't yet come into the public domain right but when we look at this CCTV footage Major Harshett what strikes you as very odd when you look at this because on one hand she's saying to your mother so on the other hand she's casually saying at some point to Rashi that she is no more there's no pulse not once Does she call the police? I mean, it is extraordinary. Not once, she's been a judge. Her son is a lawyer. Not once does she call the police. Right. What is most suspicious to you when you look at this footage? And do you believe there is other footage that hasn't yet come out into the public domain?
>> Definitely, ma'am. There are so many cameras in that house. I'm sure they have not released it on purpose. The first thing which which is very odd to me is the level of calm this person has.
It is not something panicky. There is no sense of panic in her. She's moving very calm, composed, calculatively as to she knows what is she doing. Even this time this woman is not picking up uh you know any of my any of my mother's call and has managed to call so many people. It is not panic which I see in her. It is calculative steps that I see in her. The fact I've already said this on your show, the only person who looks a little in panic is the one person who has called probably the third person.
>> The first person that this uh these people have called for help is the cousin who lives about two houses apart.
You have people living in your home who can very well help you in a state of emergency.
>> Your house help.
Well, I think we just uh lost. That's okay. We just we just lost Major Harshit and um and Rashi.
Somebody took me off also. There I'm back. Uh we just lost briefly Major Hashid and Rashi, but they'll reconnect.
In the meantime, in the meantime, just to uh could you please turn your could you could the producers turn their mics off to me? That I'd be really appreciative of it. Thank you. Um I want to as as Major Harshit and and Rashi reconnect remind everybody of this bizarre lady who is set for jail I hope for a long time. uh the things she said she and I got into many arguments and one was when I asked her what do you mean by saying tuisha was liberal le take a look you told a that your daughter-in-law had had liberal views what did you mean by that as if that's as if that's a bad thing let me LET ME READ OUT LET ME READ OUT YOUR your statement to you within 5 months I realized that she held quite liberal liberal views. On the 17th, the moment she received the confirmation of her pregnancy, her entire demeanor changed and so on. Why is having liberal views a bad thing? And was she taunted for carrying somebody else's baby? See, you have asked three questions and you want me you want a single answer. Okay, the first let me answer the last question first. You said that I stated that she had liberal views. True, she had liberal views and everybody has a right to a liberal view. We are all liberal women of a liberal age. That's not a fault. But a WhatsApp conversation, a one-sided WhatsApp conversation and WhatsApp messages and conversations of a person who is under treatment. What weightage would you give to that? She has in the space of 5 months she has visited her home. Each time she had come back stating that she fought with her brother. Her mother said that you are jealous of her shit. She her she had some allegations against her father. Why was she each time going and then coming back? She had all the >> Because women because women are conditioned to stay in marriages that don't make them happy.
That is the cultural conditioning.
>> All right. uh you know there's so many things Rashi was just saying uh that her bl her her that she's sickened by Kir Bala and I want to say to you Rashi that I was so so uh sickened in that interview that I did with her that I really if I could have leapt into the TV screen and personally just just I just wanted to do this to her at all points.
Sorry we got we got briefly cut off when Major Harshett you were telling me about how calm she she looked and she didn't call for help. Um so just let's go back to that.
>> The very odd thing that I find in that video is the fact the level of calmness and composure that this person is showing. And on an interview she goes on to say that she was in a state of panic.
It is not a state of panic that she was in. Those calls were not uh those calls that she was trying to make was trying to just cover things up possibly. the fact that she uh while you know they're towing in front of the CCTV they're trying to resuscitate her and you have no value addition to it. You're just walking about calmly and composedly as if you have you are directing the entire thing. If you wanted to you could have very well be involved in the whatever process that I'm trying to help but you chose to go inside your room pick something up and just move out.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Um Rashi, you spoke to her a couple of times or at least once that night and then later as you said uh to her sister who is a doctor. Um how did she sound when you spoke to her? You said she was very casual. How did she sound when you spoke to her?
>> Mom, very calm. I mean I didn't hear any panic of franticness which one usually would have especially if you are in such a situation. uh irrespective whether that's your daughter-in-law, your daughter or even unrelated. I mean that is not the calmness one would expect. Um I wouldn't expect even if it would be somebody a lay man or somebody a stranger on the road and I come across it. I still wouldn't be as calm as she had been that night on the call.
>> Those panic that panic that she must have had would have been uh you know just while she was calling those influential people.
don't worry, we'll handle it all. And that is possibly the reason she got that assurance. And that is when uh you know that panic was only there to just cover things up, not to actually, you know, help in any manner possible.
I I you know, and she also went on record and said horrible things about Trisha's decision to terminate her pregnancy. I got into a big fight with her about that. I bring this up because this was specifically mentioned in court that she was Visha was driven to do this. She was taunted. I asked Giribala a direct question. Did you taunt your daughter-in-law and she flat out lied?
But later the audio tape that you all recorded showed that she was lying. Uh when you think about, you know, that that decision to terminate the the pregnancy, her friends have been telling me she wanted kids. She wanted to be a mom. It's just that the environment was just so horrible that she didn't feel she could go through it through through with it.
>> Of course, ma'am, how can you procreate in an hostile environment? We are not actually uh you know genetically also we are not supposed to do that. When we find the environmental uh safe environment that is when you try and procreate the she always wanted kids ma'am. It was never the case that she uh you know as they claim that she does not want a household normal household is a very absurd thing to even hear the fact that she chose to let go of everything that was there. Her account Instagram account is private ma'am. Any person who wants a glamorous life will never have an private account on Instagram.
>> Her her friend told me that she was made to close down that account by Giribala and the family. I also heard horrible things like how she was asked to lose weight by these people, how she was sometimes told denied food. I mean the details coming out are just blood curdling.
>> Ma'am, uh this conversation actually happened with I'll continue with that conversation and then I'll move on to this.
>> Uh the fact that you know even if she wanted that kid, she wanted that kid and considering all those fights that were going on, she never wanted the kid to be the reason to save the marriage. She wanted the marriage to be saved and then procreate so that you know the kid can be raised in a nice environment but these people never provided her with that. the allegations that were put on on a pregnant woman. If you tell her that this kid is not mine, you have slept with 60 70 odd people is such a I I'm saying this right now and it is burning my I cannot just say it when this >> that is what was said to her.
>> That is what she said with the the things that they have been telling her the this husband. How can somebody stoop down to that level to tell a person who is actually carrying your baby and say things like this to her?
>> The fact that she chose to share it share it with us only on 17 when things got out of her hand and that is when she told her and ma'am >> how can I how can I go through with it?
>> I think Rashi is coming. Yeah ma'am as Mrs. Gerbala tried to you know she tried to put out a story oh that oh probably my daughter-in-law she was on such medicine she had such illnesses I really want to say I think she possibly I do not want to talk about her but I think Twishadi did what any sane human would do in such an environment to put out a story or a narrative oh you know probably she wanted kids and then suddenly she didn't wanted kids please Mrs. Gerbala do put out the real story why she didn't want it to continue. That is the reason. The reason is that you never gave her the right environment.
You never made her feel safe in your home.
>> You literally denied her of basics such as food. And I think Mrs. Tisha was absolutely sane enough to do what was right and wrong. She knew what was >> in a way you forcibly you forcibly you know forced her into making this decision.
the fact that you could not get any prerequisites for it >> and then >> uh harass her by making statements like these they have forced her into it.
>> Yeah, absolutely. I I Rashia I'll direct this to you because you're a doctor. One of the big ar fights I had with Giribala is because she was making all these sweeping statements about oh she has Twisha has schizophrenic right and then she claimed that she's a drug user. Now the audio tape clearly shows that she admits that her son is the one who used drugs. He lost two years in college because of that and she even says that she conceds that visha one of the reasons didn't want to go through with the pregnancy is because of the husband was a drug user.
But I said to her I said whether or not somebody is seeing a doctor whether or not they are being treated for it that is information confidential between the doctor and the patient.
that doctor should lose his license. So I just put in your thoughts as a doctor Rashi.
>> Absolutely ma'am. I'm glad actually I just want to point out the fact that you did raise that question. You raised a couple of questions to her. First regarding that to have the baby or not that is in our country as well in in a country like India. The second thing the fact that these details are pretty much privy or confidential between a patient and a doctor. So ma'am it's pretty easy for anybody and possibly a woman like Mrs. Gibbala to use or to you know defame a disease just because there's nothing when you have nothing you start this is actually pretty much common in our country if you have nothing you start you know slandering your daughter-in-laws or you start slandering people you've gotten into your home. So ma'am coming as a doctor ma'am these details I'm sure even I believe there were certain medical prescriptions that were circulated I think she commented that these were the medical treatment papers provided to the couple so they had also been circulated uh I believe in the media ma'am there has been nothing mentioned as schizophrenia or even there's written query adjustment disorder which is something even I possibly could have if I'm posted if I'm at a location which is pretty I'm pretty much aloof or pretty much far away from my family and I'm in a cold deserted region. I possibly can also have that.
So to possibly stay that that that adjustment disorder could be schizophrenia because you have nothing to say. So you start speaking such ill things about someone who's already you know passed away that just shows mom that she had nothing. Also possibly if the doctor has there could be another possibility that the doctor could she must possibly might have an accessibility to the doctor that she was Mrs. Giribala herself was taking Twisha too that that could be one reason that she's so openly but I do not think that the accusation she's made that she could be a schizophrenic is absolutely not true ma'am I do not believe that >> no I was I just to say before you come in I wasn't saying it to say it's true I preface it by saying I think she lies >> that is what I wanted to add on we in it the first thing we want to question is the authenticity of this document the doctor who has said it uh is again one of the relative who works at the same clinic.
So the authenticity the first thing that to to question is the authenticity of that document first. Secondly ma'am if you just if you'll just go through the entire narrative that was being set by her in all her interviews realize that they're very clever people who know the law. The fact that they are choosing their words and putting it out they're trying to frame a narrative already in people's head and trying to justify the allegations that they have made. the allegation of suicide. Okay, how will you justify it? Okay, she's a six years six friend. She used to do drugs. She was pushed into it. So all of those statements are very calculative statements. They are not >> I I can I can I just say I agree with you because if I'm looking at this here's what I see. I see that she's creating a story. The story is that Twisha was mentally disturbed. Oh, she had quote unquote schizophrenia. She was on drugs. And you know why she was trying to get the CCTV footage of the beauty parlor? Because the beauty parlor owner is on record saying and you can see with a street getting a head massage, right? So there is a narrative here of covering up the truth.
The narrative is being created to manipulate the truth. That is very obvious. I don't believe a word that comes out of Girin Bala's mouth. I only asked that question because I felt that as a judge he had no business >> making a comment like that Rashid that's that's why I repeat please please don't misunderstand me I only repeated it for that for that purpose but major hashid I want to talk about this narrative because she's going to raise it in court her lawyers are now going to bring it in court right uh are you concerned like for example a lawyer I was interviewing he said I'm concerned that because she had access to the crime scene because she had anticipatory bail and the whole house is the crime scene. She can plant evidence tomorrow. She can go and plant I don't know marijuana that she was making claims about in Tisha's you know cupboard or room or whatever.
>> Are you concerned about that? How concerned are you about planting evidence by Giribala? Ma'am, that could definitely be the case because considering if you are a forensic uh site uh expert and how to actually manipulate it and you have a degree in that, of course, you're going to put it to use. But I am hoping the investigating agencies also see to it that this woman had access to the same uh floor, same house, nobody questioning her about what is she doing inside that house. uh nothing uh being uh you know out of our reach. It is very much a possibility and I am sure we would uh you know uh be there would so many evidences be thrown at us that are not true at all. I just hope the investigating agencies also look into it. the very fact of the free access was given evidences were destroyed and possibly new evidences were planted. Hm that is a real real concern right now.
Major Harshid I have this concern so I can imagine how concerned you may uh be.
Uh can I ask you towards the end I just want to ask you uh police officers senior IPS officers that we've been talking to they believe heads must role in the Bopal police they believe that the uh police the SHO the investigating officer should be suspended. They believe the commissioner of police should be sent on leave. uh they think the entire ecosystem somehow was bent before Giribbala Singh till you know the whole country some of us in the media made such a noise that the narrative shifted. Uh are you concerned that there was an ecosystem that was being play that would be played either with influence or some are suggesting with bribes?
>> No doubts about it ma'am. In your interview only I've said it she has an arsenal of people helping her out. There are so many people involved right from a uh constable to you know people at the higherups who are making all those decision and telling people to move like clockwork. The fact that we have been raising this voice from day one because we were facing it. The fact that we were told not just by one person but so many people up the chain. I have not just it are not just verbal statements that I'm making ma'am. I have risen complaints in the human rights forum the very day that I heard these words where my family was fighting and I was given an assurance by somebody to fast and then when I was calling the person who was supposed to he the very person said that is when I've raised complaints no this is not happening I am not taking this I am going to comprise a complaint we have written complaints So many of them not just one we have about 60 70 odd letters that we have written ma'am >> who all >> through this time >> who all did you write these 60 70 letters to >> ma'am all every person concerned each and every single authority I have written complaints even to the human rights because it's a human right violation for us to be not heard and not taken an FIR >> yeah the reply goten >> yeah the reply The reply that I had gotten had no inputs whatsoever. I had taken half an hour of my time even while my family was fighting to write an official complaint because I was very hopeful. The reply that I've gotten was just a cut cut, copy paste of my same message and just one single line above it action being taken.
Awful. Just awful. How did you how did you handle your emotions in this time?
Your sister is dead. She's your elder sister. She used to call you beta. You don't have a moment to mourn her passing because you are immediately thrown into this fight for justice and nobody is listening to you. The FIR isn't being registered. 60 70 letters you're having to write. You have no space to process your emotion. I don't know h how did you keep going and what was the toughest thing in these last 14 days? Major >> ma'am the time of grief has not yet come.
I am not griefstricken as of now. I just want you know sometimes to actually process this completely. I have not yet even at there have been times when I've wake up in the morning and just feel it's a nightmare that I was going through and then I happen to just open YouTube and just see everything and it just strikes me okay no it is not I'm still living this nightmare and I have to go through this again so it has happened not once quite a lot of times whenever I wake up I feel again it's just a bad dream possibly it is not happening the only thing that has went with me the biggest challenge firstly was for us to be heard, ma'am, from the very beginning. And you and so many other people have just come up to help us out with this, for us to at least be heard.
That was the biggest challenge because we were trying to speak. We knew what was happening. We knew what was going wrong, but nobody was listening. I think that was the biggest challenge then and that is where you guys actually came in and helped us out a lot.
>> It is our duty. We not >> Yeah. Go ahead. The biggest support that I've had is again I would say m my brothers my family and all the people who are still working taking the time out of their own busy schedule to just help with the case giving their inputs watching interviews giving us inputs okay she has said this she has said that for us to note it is not a single uhhanded effort it is the effort of all those who are connected to Tisha and yeah that is my support system ma'am >> Rashi it must have been tough for you to see you know hers go through this for you to go through it yourself for a family to be faced with this you know what would you want people to understand it must have felt quite lonely at times um I mean again there's nothing to be understood but I mean I do not have words about it the only fact is again as hash has mentioned we're very thankful to everyone who's supported the family supported twisha in the cause. I mean we just need again we need everyone to keep keep continuing with their support till the end because as Hashid said the basic thing that is to be heard for the procedure to be started that was the biggest challenge uh to be heard that was one biggest problem that we were facing until up until yesterday when we've heard that okay the bail uh has been rejected but up until the end it's going to be a huge battle mom it's it's still far we've realized that there's a huge influence of Mrs. Gibbala and everybody in the system you know trying to hamper the process to be done in a justful manner.
So we just want everyone that it's not easy to I mean it's not easy though it's you know everybody seems to be quite tough on the exterior. I've seen my entire family.
>> I do not believe anybody's had the chance to grieve or mourn the loss of their their daughter. You know nobody's had the chance. It's in between when people realize, you know, the family realizes, oh wait, she's no more. But nobody is able to accept it because somebody like Twisha who's always been so loving, so bold and, you know, always encouraging us to do the best for ourselves and it it's pretty tough. The only thing that I can feel and I believe everybody is just anger. We're just infuriated at what has happened and why >> that question is yet to be answered and possibly >> I mean we we do not even like there's no answer can compensate for what has happened the loss that we have so possibly we can only thank everyone thank you and thank everyone for being with us and supporting us and we just request everyone to do so till the end >> no thanks are needed it is really u my duty and my duty of my fraternity. Major Harsh, I have a last question for you.
If this case gets tried as a suicide, you will, I think, not feel like justice has been done. I think you are convinced more and more and I think so so are many of us.
>> Well, we just lost them there. Maybe they'll reconnect. Oh, there they are. I was just saying if this case continues to be somebody was explaining to me that though it's been registered to the >> uh I'm not getting this is really sorry.
Yeah.
>> Can you can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Just reconnect if you can hear me. Uh I just wanted to um ask major harsh that if this case is eventually continues to be tried as a suicide, I don't think that the family uh will uh will be at peace. I don't think that the family uh will feel that justice has been served. Uh let's take you through some of the things that I believe are extremely suspicious. the nature of the injuries, uh the fact that she was calling for CCTV footage from the technicians and the beauty parlor, the timelines, all of it points uh to to not suicide. Frankly, I was trying to say, I hope you can hear me now, that in the end, what will justice look like? I know it's currently registered as a dowy death, but I think you're convinced that this was murder, that there was an assault, that she was hit on the head.
This much is now established by the nature of injuries. What would justice be look like? And I know that if it continues to be treated as a suicide case, I know that you will continue to feel very angry because all of you are convinced that Tisha did not take her own life.
>> Of course, ma'am, everything that we have encountered is pointing towards one direction. Ma'am, >> yeah, >> the fact from the very beginning they have done so many things which are you know uh cannot be justified by a simple term called suicide.
Yeah, >> it is the mental harassment. The fact that uh you know you've gone to so such levels to harass somebody who is supposed to be your ardhangini and who supposed to be your babu. The fact that you know you were not uh very much satisfied with the level the shadi had gone through. The fact >> yeah your your father told me and that's an important point. You see dowi demands are made in many different ways and your father told me that at the time of the shadi she was complaining non-stop about the as they're called arrangements.
No doubts about it ma'am. I've actually said this in an interview. I I personally got this call.
Where is your mother? Send her right now. While my mother can can you repeat the exact words, please? Could you tell us?
>> Send your mother. Where is your mother?
Send your just send her right away.
I will not get into the detail details of it. I've been told not to. So these are the statements. I've already put it in my statement ma'am. So from the very beginning you have been like this. From the very beginning you were not at ease.
The from the very beginning you had a lot of problems with my sister. From the very beginning you have thrashed her.
You have humiliated her. You have gone to levels uh just to uh you know make her life very miserable. And on the 12th on the night of 12th you did something so horrific that everybody in your in your uh arsenal had to come up to save you. You had to call so many people. You had to call uh you have to do so much so much uh so many things just to cover some things. Definitely it is not suicide ma'am. It is a murder.
>> Do you believe Giribal Singh is the main is is a key accused and not just this mother covering up for her son. I mean not that that makes it any better. I'm just wondering how you see her role.
>> No doubts about it ma'am. He's a lawyer.
She's a judge.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> You can see that in you can see that in whatever interviews also. She's a very controlling woman and she would want things to be her way and I'm very much sure that most of the things are orchestrated at her end.
>> Yeah. I I just want to say in the end you know both of you have thanked us. I actually want to thank thank you thank Rashi thank all the wonderful women and you know friends and cousins who have come out in the last few days. They have shown courage. They have shown emotion.
They have shown that courage is not the absence of vulnerability. Um but courage is to be able to be strong despite vulnerability. Um soldiers know that better than anybody else, major. So you don't need me to tell you that courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is not the absence of pain. Courage is going through that pain, traveling through that pain. And I think you and your family have done that so bravely. I salute you. Um, I have already asked you so I'm not going to ask you again. I know you must live with that feeling that I wish I brought my sister home. I just want to give you the last word. If you wanted people to remember Twisha, people now feel everybody feels they know Twisha even people who've never met her. What is that one line that you would you say that how you know one thing that everybody should remember her as?
>> Ma'am, I think it's in her name itself.
uh the name it means uh I'll say it in Hindi.
She's the break of dawn.
So she's that light. She's that light who just overcomes the darkness. She's that first ray of light. And the way I would want people to remember her by is by making such a you know a statement because it's a it's not just every day that whatever things are happening are happen.
So it is going to be a statement judgment and we are hoping for that and we are hoping that everybody remembers Tusha by the fact that you know she brought out this change.
I think that's beautiful that the name itself captures how you'd like us to remember her. The first ray of light, the first break of dawn. May May her memory may her memory be honored by those who did this to her getting exemplary punishment. I personally would like to see Giribala Singh in prison along with her son for a long long time.
I hope this doesn't become a tarik tarik case that stretches on for years. I don't think that's fair to the family. I think we must see exemplary punishment in a fasttracked case. And I thank you and salute you once again for your courage. Thank you, Major Hasha. Thank you, Rashi. Take care. God bless. Thank you. Thank you. Byebye.
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